I fired someone yesterday for cause. Don't ever wait, feel bad or think about it. Just do what's in the best interest of your employer and your team, period.
As long as it's done with respect for the individual I see no issue. Some managers feel they have the right to disrespect you and talk down on you like you're a child then wonder why the employee is disgruntled.
As a business owner I can tell you if you've done your job they should know its coming ie you made it clear what the expectations are and they aren't meeting them. I have no problem letting bad employees go, I don't tolerate broad siding someone though. Taking the time to fire someone the right way will save you a lot of money in litigation costs. That being said the firing should be short and to the point.
As someone who just recently moved up to a managerial role in my workplace, I think this video will really help me out going forward. I had to fire someone for the first time today and I wasn't really sure how to approach it. It went smoothly enough this time, but it made me realize how unprepared I was for that responsibility. I will absolutely be using the "Not a discussion" advice in the future. Thank you for making this video.
My boss was very happy with me at first. Slowly I started to recognise problems. 3 long term employees left. They openly talked to me the reason was bad management. Finally the boss started to treat me also very badly. Everyday I was scared what mood she was on that day. It was psychologically consuming. Finally she fired me. Lesson: sometimes people get fired so a bad manager can blame them.
As an employee I look at ALL time I spend with an employer as just a one-time short-term contract. Like a plumber coming to fix my toilet. Or an electrician coming to install an overheard light in my house. Practically, I am the "boss": the one giving the plumber the electrician money, and they give me useful labor. When they finish the toilet or light, I have now "fired" them. That is the way I would do it so that I don't take being fired personally. I am NOT defending employers, by the way, who fire for all sorts of unjust reasons. No.
Actually in my case I would have preferred to be terminated via e-mail or whatever. When I was fired one horrible morning I had dragged out of bed at %:00 A.M. hit the road at 6:00 A.M. and drove the 32 miles in heavy traffic to work only to be fired when I got there. Traffic was still heavy when I went back home.
Thanks so much for this! I will have to fire someone for the first time ever. I am confident that it´s the right decision, but I am a bit nervous about it. This helped a lot!
Right on point. The hire slow, fire fast mentality is powerful in business. I think #3 is the most powerful valuable piece of advice, especially for newer managers. If it turns into a discussion, there is a risk of keeping an underperformer employed longer.
Make it clear with the first sentences, that there is no way back, even if you wanted. Don't give them false hope. Then grab your notebook. That whole, "But it is not my fault" can reveal some things you might not have been aware of and that you might have get at no time else.
@@deadcell1 if they are doing what's required, then no... that's what is required/expected. If people do the bare minimum and have a crap attitude while doing the bare minimum, those employees often remain average, base level employees. An under performer, in general, would be someone that is not meeting their job expectations and/or results requirements. Attitude and effort are required to move from an average level forward in business.
I’m in a family company and I was just given the task of letting a guy go by the end of the week, and I actually like him, I’m very nervous about it, but this video helped get me a game plan, and a good idea of how I will handle this. My dads advice was to watch money ball.. SMH this was much better
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@@Deathtickle81 it was actually much easier to do than I thought it would be. Just reminding yourself of why the decision was made and maintaining cool professional and respectful demeanor is key. Best of luck 👍
@@mom2dotnjr very nice to hear that you made it through alright. Must not have been easy but I am glad to hear the steps helped! Hopefully I won't have to use these tricks any time soon!
As a small business, our biggest problem in firing an employee is that there just isn't the workforce out there. We can't even find people who WANT TO WORK !!!!!!!!!!!!
@@sbnsbaker1The problem is the business owner expects the employee to work as hard as themselves without providing any incentive. Also, a toxic work culture will demoralize any employee from going up and beyond.
How not to fire someone, roll up with 5 members of security and a Manager surrounding you "We need to see you outside" My position was just downsized. I did nothing wrong it was the way they rolled up on me. It was like "lets take this outside, you and me bro." Fear was my first reaction.
I got fired for using dirty words. A lady overheard me and went to HR. I was fired and I deserved it. I should have made sure no ladies were present or better still not said it in the first place. I'm posting this to perhaps keep another person from making the same mistake I did. No dirty language at work.
Mr. McConklin, it is a pleasure having you on our team, you are a great part of what this company is all about, but I regret to inform you that your position here has been terminated as of the end of the day, you may stay till then, or you may pack your things and leave now, while everyone's having lunch ! Here are your papers and full recommendations ! Good bye !
In my last business, I had to fire several times. Each time, I made sure to get whatever info I needed (such as accounts) at least a week or so before I let them go. Without fail, each of them would ask me if something was up and if they should be worried. How would you respond to an employee who's asking if you're planning to let them go but you're not yet ready to do it?
Brandon Griffin I just tell them it’s important we document our processes. I don’t tell them until I have to legally. My first priority is to the shareholders and other employees/ customers.
At one job I was terminated over the phone. No legal reason. HR yelled at me and tried to curse me out. She was a vile human being! Best thing to ever happen to me. I found a much better job and make more money!
This is a very glossy view. The people that I know that have been fired have been fired for political reasons. The manager can't find mistakes or missed deadlines, but they come up with stupid abstract reasons like "not up to par," "asks too many questions," or "lacks critical thinking." Offer a recommendation? Come on!!! are you kidding me?
As an employee I look at ALL time I spend with an employer as just a one-time short-term contract. Like a plumber coming to fix my toilet. Or an electrician coming to install an overheard light in my house. Practically, I am the "boss": the one giving the plumber the electrician money, and they give me useful labor. When they finish the toilet or light, I have now "fired" them. That is the way I would do it so that I don't take being fired personally. I am NOT defending employers, by the way, who fire for all sorts of unjust reasons. No.
I’d be upset if you told me to work that day and you fire me that’s a big ass no no for me that will set me on fire so another step is do it as soon as the next work day starts timing is everything
In my job my managers dont have the guts to fire me. Then again urs retial management. At my job the managers get fired or quit so I get away from getting fired all these years. I been sat down but they just gave alternatives 200 times. Then they quit
@@marshmallow1488 😂 ha well I am not much of a trouble maker my a few co workers like me. I'm cool boy Cliff but you know in retail if any thing you do bad even if it's not as bad each manager may get in his or her own feelings or something do you might tun into one over strict manager 😬.
Fuck that, I don't mess around with letting people go. I simply state " I'm letting you go, it's not working out, good luck in your job search. " and then silence until they leave. I don't fuck around or waste time or worry about hurting feelings. If they can't do the job or won't do the job, they are gone.
I agree when a employee start costing you thousands of dollars its time to let them go just because they can't there job or don't care I have one guy I'm firing next week that costed me 3500.00 on one job
@@razerburn4216As long as you do it with respect. I had a manager a while back got very disrespectful and he cross the line by bringing my mother into it and we end up fighting in the office.
This guy is like the one who says eat meat but kill humanely. Simon Sinek is the Vegan guy who says why fire in the first place (Different view on Leadership)!
There is no graceful way communicate to an Employee, that you are removing their financial ability to pay their Mortgage, their Rent, their Power Bill their Water Bill, their Auto Insurance. Their Medical Insurance, or their Medical Insurance "for their CHILDREN'' or a SICK CHILD.. OR a "SICK SPOUSE"".... I could never date or marry someone that could do this.
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Take the dan pena approach
I fired someone yesterday for cause. Don't ever wait, feel bad or think about it. Just do what's in the best interest of your employer and your team, period.
@Antidot......I guess you fired a Jamoke !
As long as it's done with respect for the individual I see no issue. Some managers feel they have the right to disrespect you and talk down on you like you're a child then wonder why the employee is disgruntled.
As a business owner I can tell you if you've done your job they should know its coming ie you made it clear what the expectations are and they aren't meeting them. I have no problem letting bad employees go, I don't tolerate broad siding someone though. Taking the time to fire someone the right way will save you a lot of money in litigation costs. That being said the firing should be short and to the point.
As someone who just recently moved up to a managerial role in my workplace, I think this video will really help me out going forward. I had to fire someone for the first time today and I wasn't really sure how to approach it. It went smoothly enough this time, but it made me realize how unprepared I was for that responsibility. I will absolutely be using the "Not a discussion" advice in the future. Thank you for making this video.
Thank you for the tip “it is not a discussion” I struggle with it. I try to explain, to make them feel better, I suck at firing.
My boss was very happy with me at first. Slowly I started to recognise problems. 3 long term employees left. They openly talked to me the reason was bad management. Finally the boss started to treat me also very badly. Everyday I was scared what mood she was on that day. It was psychologically consuming. Finally she fired me. Lesson: sometimes people get fired so a bad manager can blame them.
As an employee I look at ALL time I spend with an employer as just a one-time short-term contract.
Like a plumber coming to fix my toilet. Or an electrician coming to install an overheard light in my house.
Practically, I am the "boss": the one giving the plumber the electrician money, and they give me useful labor.
When they finish the toilet or light, I have now "fired" them.
That is the way I would do it so that I don't take being fired personally.
I am NOT defending employers, by the way, who fire for all sorts of unjust reasons. No.
Actually in my case I would have preferred to be terminated via e-mail or whatever. When I was fired one horrible morning I had dragged out of bed at %:00 A.M. hit the road at 6:00 A.M. and drove the 32 miles in heavy traffic to work only to be fired when I got there. Traffic was still heavy when I went back home.
Thanks so much for this! I will have to fire someone for the first time ever. I am confident that it´s the right decision, but I am a bit nervous about it. This helped a lot!
Right on point. The hire slow, fire fast mentality is powerful in business.
I think #3 is the most powerful valuable piece of advice, especially for newer managers. If it turns into a discussion, there is a risk of keeping an underperformer employed longer.
100%!
Make it clear with the first sentences, that there is no way back, even if you wanted. Don't give them false hope. Then grab your notebook. That whole, "But it is not my fault" can reveal some things you might not have been aware of and that you might have get at no time else.
When you say "Under Performer" are you referring to an employee who does only the bare minimum that's required to keep their job?
@@deadcell1 if they are doing what's required, then no... that's what is required/expected. If people do the bare minimum and have a crap attitude while doing the bare minimum, those employees often remain average, base level employees. An under performer, in general, would be someone that is not meeting their job expectations and/or results requirements. Attitude and effort are required to move from an average level forward in business.
@@MikePhillips Another question, what are ways to motivate employees to become over performers?
Thank you I needed the extra guidance... first time having to fire someone in a managerial position.
Glad I could provide some insights in the process.
Appreciate the comment.
DM
I’m in a family company and I was just given the task of letting a guy go by the end of the week, and I actually like him, I’m very nervous about it, but this video helped get me a game plan, and a good idea of how I will handle this. My dads advice was to watch money ball.. SMH this was much better
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Thanks, watching this as a pep talk preparing to fire an employee tomorrow for the very first time on my 3rd week on the new position as a manager 😐
Same, how did it go?
@@Deathtickle81 it was actually much easier to do than I thought it would be. Just reminding yourself of why the decision was made and maintaining cool professional and respectful demeanor is key. Best of luck 👍
@@mom2dotnjr very nice to hear that you made it through alright. Must not have been easy but I am glad to hear the steps helped! Hopefully I won't have to use these tricks any time soon!
Your video helped me so much while I was crying in my car. Fired my first employee tonight. Thank you for giving me the courage.
Thank you for the video! Needed this very very much👍
DAN DAN DAN ... Thank youuuuuu a ZILLION for your elegant and oh soooo efficient advice!
no problem 💯
Thank you. This is my first time firing someone as a manager. Appreciate the advice.
How did it go?!
As a small business, our biggest problem in firing an employee is that there just isn't the workforce out there. We can't even find people who WANT TO WORK !!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe pay more.
@@McFraneth Sounds good in theory, but NO ONE has even answered the ads leaving hourly wage open. NOTHING!!!
'That is my biggest frustration. If you can find someone, where is the work ethic. I refuse to settle for a mediocre employee.
@@sbnsbaker1The problem is the business owner expects the employee to work as hard as themselves without providing any incentive. Also, a toxic work culture will demoralize any employee from going up and beyond.
"Congratulations Nick on your new apartment. Listen, we're gonna let you go. " :(
How not to fire someone, roll up with 5 members of security and a Manager surrounding you
"We need to see you outside"
My position was just downsized. I did nothing wrong it was the way they rolled up on me. It was like "lets take this outside, you and me bro." Fear was my first reaction.
Beast mode - great video!
I got fired for using dirty words. A lady overheard me and went to HR. I was fired and I deserved it. I should have made sure no ladies were present or better still not said it in the first place. I'm posting this to perhaps keep another person from making the same mistake I did. No dirty language at work.
Mr. McConklin, it is a pleasure having you on our team, you are a great
part of what this company is all about, but I regret to inform you that your position here has been terminated as of the end of the day, you may stay till then, or you may pack your things and leave now, while everyone's having lunch !
Here are your papers and full recommendations ! Good bye !
In my last business, I had to fire several times. Each time, I made sure to get whatever info I needed (such as accounts) at least a week or so before I let them go. Without fail, each of them would ask me if something was up and if they should be worried. How would you respond to an employee who's asking if you're planning to let them go but you're not yet ready to do it?
Brandon Griffin I just tell them it’s important we document our processes. I don’t tell them until I have to legally. My first priority is to the shareholders and other employees/ customers.
@@danmartell Ok. This was my approach as well but they would always call me on it on their way out the door. I guess it's unavoidable.
That should be a lesson to be more organized and aware of your people's projects in general. That way its not a noticeable change of behavior.
I have to fire 🔥 some one who wants to be my boss
At one job I was terminated over the phone. No legal reason. HR yelled at me and tried to curse me out. She was a vile human being! Best thing to ever happen to me. I found a much better job and make more money!
great video
This is a very glossy view. The people that I know that have been fired have been fired for political reasons. The manager can't find mistakes or missed deadlines, but they come up with stupid abstract reasons like "not up to par," "asks too many questions," or "lacks critical thinking." Offer a recommendation? Come on!!! are you kidding me?
I have to question saying "I appreciate the time you've given" to someone you're firing. You obviously don't appreciate it.
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Dan great video but i wished you used termination of work relation instead of Fire.
Appreciate the comment
These steps can also be used if you need to ask someone on a sports team to step down from their position (captain, coach) or leave the team
yup
bro why did my boss comment on this video?
😂😂
Great video Dan !
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Karen’s watching this 👁👄👁📝
ugh ... that's all
As an employee I look at ALL time I spend with an employer as just a one-time short-term contract.
Like a plumber coming to fix my toilet. Or an electrician coming to install an overheard light in my house.
Practically, I am the "boss": the one giving the plumber the electrician money, and they give me useful labor.
When they finish the toilet or light, I have now "fired" them.
That is the way I would do it so that I don't take being fired personally.
I am NOT defending employers, by the way, who fire for all sorts of unjust reasons. No.
Not sure how you can disclose “reasons for termination” to the team?
Yeh, I think we need to start slowing the hiring process. Then we shouldn't get these issues.
Yeh? It’s spelled yeah, Ms. Professional.
I’d be upset if you told me to work that day and you fire me that’s a big ass no no for me that will set me on fire so another step is do it as soon as the next work day starts timing is everything
In my job my managers dont have the guts to fire me. Then again urs retial management. At my job the managers get fired or quit so I get away from getting fired all these years. I been sat down but they just gave alternatives 200 times. Then they quit
Wow, you seem like a dream employee. 😂
@@marshmallow1488 😂 ha well I am not much of a trouble maker my a few co workers like me. I'm cool boy Cliff but you know in retail if any thing you do bad even if it's not as bad each manager may get in his or her own feelings or something do you might tun into one over strict manager 😬.
Fuck that, I don't mess around with letting people go. I simply state " I'm letting you go, it's not working out, good luck in your job search. " and then silence until they leave. I don't fuck around or waste time or worry about hurting feelings. If they can't do the job or won't do the job, they are gone.
I agree when a employee start costing you thousands of dollars its time to let them go just because they can't there job or don't care I have one guy I'm firing next week that costed me 3500.00 on one job
@@razerburn4216As long as you do it with respect. I had a manager a while back got very disrespectful and he cross the line by bringing my mother into it and we end up fighting in the office.
Very informative
Glad you liked it
Wait Noooooo
How about, before you fire them: "Hey. You seem to be a bit out of sync. Are you ok?"
This should have happened long before you considered termination. A performance improvement plan needs to happen, tracked and documented.
This guy is like the one who says eat meat but kill humanely. Simon Sinek is the Vegan guy who says why fire in the first place (Different view on Leadership)!
Truth is the 80 /20 rule works for this also.Only 2 out of 10 candidates will fit the role.
No way
Good video
8:20
“Your fired “ ! In Donald trump voice
why not just do it the Trump way? "you're fired"
Afte i sent a firing email; i watched the vid 😬💔
There is no graceful way communicate to an Employee, that you are removing their financial ability to pay their Mortgage, their Rent, their Power Bill their Water Bill, their Auto Insurance. Their Medical Insurance, or their Medical Insurance "for their CHILDREN'' or a SICK CHILD.. OR a "SICK SPOUSE"".... I could never date or marry someone that could do this.