What Happens When A 16-Year-Old Is Charged With Murder in Singapore?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- On Jul. 20, a 16-year-old River Valley High School student was charged with the murder of a fellow 13-year-old student.
An adult charged with murder in Singapore can face the death penalty. But what happens when the person in question is only 16-years-old? Criminal defence lawyer Josephus Tan breaks it down for us.
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imagine sending ur child to sch and never seeing him/her again. my heart breaks for the victim's parents.
The victim's parents forgave the 16 year old boy
The victim parent's heart is very big. I can't. If the boy and his family used mental problem as an excuse, I will go mental and kill them all too. Then I will accept that whatever the judge given for the boy's charge as fair enough for mine. I can accept death too as I can't imagine life without my son.
@@juwanwan1 apologies won’t bring back their 13 years old child. Imagine making breakfast for them only to know your child got killed by a crazy boy. You think it’s fair? The family should sue the school and the crazy boy family millions of dollars
@@DeeDixon24 Testimony shared by a staff over River Valley High tragedy:
I just want to share what my principal shared with us during the staff meeting earlier. It was a particularly tough day for her because she was about to make her way to the wake of the 13-year-old boy who died under her charge. She expected that his parents would be particularly hostile. After all, their son died in the care of the school that she is leading. When she reached the wake, the mother was unusually calm and the father, after crying for a while, ministered to her. The family that she came to comfort was the very one that was comforting her. She testified of how the family lived out the Christian values that they believed in. How the parents said that they were not angry at the 16-year-old boy who took their son’s life. And they asked my principal to convey to the 16-year-old boy’s parents that they should take care of themselves. My principal is not a believer, but she also recounted publicly (this is out of her character to do this because she always maintained secular space in official communication) how the parents of the 13-year-old boy asked the Lord about where their son is right now. From what I understand, two of their friends independent of each other received prophetic dreams that God was indeed the one who had taken their son home and that he did not suffer. The parents testified that he is now at a better place.
May this account comfort us as we begin to recognise the Lord’s hand even in the midst of these recent events. Thank you all for praying! Blessings.
The school counsellor, who also attended the wake, also testified that the boy’s parents are very comforted and hope that the boy’s legacy (e.g. church becomes united in prayer) will live on.
@@mabeldin7891 Mental Health is the issue here. And yet you say that its an excuse? Helping the 16 year old kid as well as providing help to students all over Singapore is the most important thing that is needed to do to prevent these things from happening.
Very clear and concise, I learned a lot. Didn’t know caning cannot be done in installments but now I do. The presenter should start his own RUclips channel to educate us about laws of Singapore.
we need our own legal eagle.
maybe a LegalMerlion?
@Pansy Creep I think you are over engineering my point.
@Pansy Creep In which parallel universe does advice and awareness ≠ education?
@Pansy Creep bruh.
Of course understandable canning is done at 1 go of course.....u think go Courts go HarvyNorman stores buy Sofa Buy TV meh?
This video is timely and answered many questions that we didn't take note of as such crimes are rare in Singapore. I saw some folks talking about doxxing so I did a quick search and CNA published on 1st April 2019 : Perpetrators of “doxxing” could face a fine of up to S$5,000 or a jail term of up to 6 months if the intention was to cause harassment, or 12 months if they intended to cause fear or provoke violence.
That’s too little
Jesus Christ... I could not imagine that the 13 year old was just having a normal day and then all of a sudden gets horribly out of nowhere killed by a 16 year old......
Exactly 😭 I have very vivid imaginations...So I can't stop picturing myself in that scenario and that kind of trauma
It is very sad.
@@SSBMA1994
There is no guarantee the unnamed murderer might be let into our society some 17 years later as a man of 33 with a very dark dark past and not fully recovered from his mental illness.
Btw, the 15 y-o murderer hired by Anthony Ler to slay his wife is now in our midst after 17 years in jail.
Happens in u.s all the time. Pay attention to your youth's violent nature.. If gone unchecked it can breed a generation of pain to your country.
I believe in Singapore to keep the peace.
U don’t know the whole story behind it, so don’t assume
his explanation is clear, words are concise too. a good lawyer!
Very professionally explained 👍 Been very inspired by Josephus ever since he gave a talk in my Primary School about 7+ years back! 💯
July hasn't been a good month for Singapore
The murder case, spike in Covid cases, Joseph Schooling getting last in olympics.
Good that it's coming to an end eh?
@@desaturated6049 wait what
@@desaturated6049 kid trampled to death by a basketball hoop structure
Not true.. maybe coz yall more on to the bad news.
A tragedy that breaks the heart of Singaporeans. RIP for the victim and may help rendered to the accused. Going to be a very long and difficult time for both families. My heartfelt prayers to U all. God bless.
Both family? Who is the real victim here?
The accused does not deserve sympathy, he needs a F .I r. I N. G Squad.
God clearly didn’t bless anyone in this situation
@@TofuTeo there is no god.
@@achillesrodriguezxx3958 u need
T. O. R. T. U. R. E and yeah both are victims, that boy that died was tragic but he is now in heaven, as for that accused, he is now under torture, having to live with punishment and in this world with a shameful reputation, not just physical prison but his own mental prison, its hard for both but i feel the boy that became insane is the real depiction on how neglectful this society is nowadays, its not just singapore, its almost everywhere.
*Its reported the 16 year old killer's an IMH patient so am curious to find out how is this case is going to be concluded?*
Oh are u sure?
How does an IMH patient get the privilege to enter into a school of that prestige that’s what I wanna know.
Fehk noos
@@annaeembinannahari2516 he was getting treatment already, he was deemed stable and released 2 years ago
@@annaeembinannahari2516 it the exam system. You can sleep whole day in class and score top in exam as well. Maybe it is gifted. 😁😁😁😁😁
Rest in peace to the boy and my condolences to his family. Hope they get through this hard time. 😔
Thanks for the information. I really feel for both families of the victim and the offender. I can't imagine what they are going through right now.
I cannot remember much when i was in sec sch. Only some memories and when thinking back, i find myself immature and wish can do more. That's really something i want to find out about our brain.
The lawyer needs to hv his own YT Channel!
Yes. I agree 👍🏽
He alr has his own Ch8 Drama and book what?
No… not true. He don’t know how to produce content, he needs those pro to produce for him.
If lawyer can do content on reviewing court cases and explaining the charged to layman term.
Ill watch and collect his videos.
He and his partner dog.
Your right
Never heard of 16 murder of 13 with weapon. This is rare murder case.
In singapore maybe, but not in other parts of the world.
In the US, there is the slenderman stabbing, where 2 12-year old girls tricked their 12 year old friend into the woods, and stabbed her 19 times. There are a number of videos on this on youtube. These girls have mental health issues as well. Mental health is really important, even among kids.
@@LittlePanda888 I remember this case. It was truly disturbing and I’m so glad the victim was discovered in time and alive today.
Surprised no siblings kill each other before in a fight. Probably didn't get picked up as news.
@@LittlePanda888 What's her name? I want to see the beautiful face of the poor victim
@@kennethmajorSG 2 girls 1 cup
So if a 9 year old has outstanding emotional maturity (equivalent to that of an adult) and decides to kill his/her parents he/she wont get trialed?
Problem is unless there is clear paperwork stating the 9 year old has the maturity of an adult which doesn't exist you can't ever trial them
A right person in mind with enough maturity will not kill his or her parent for no reason
@@everardgt1463 Sadism isn't considered diminished responsibility
No since there’s no proof.
Many research and tests were conducted to determine that those below 18 years old do not have a brain (physically speaking) that is matured, as those above would have.
Thanks for your video. It was very informative.
The killer was previously hospitalised for trying to kill himself, I'm not surprised he's doing something this extreme in the hopes the courts would consider charging him as an adult and give him the death penalty.
Death penalty is a relief of his physical pain but his consciousness and soul can never be redeemed. We solved the problem of eliminating the demon from the possibility to kill again but no1 is helping the boy to rid the demon of his consciousness. What is he thinking and what drive that to happen in our society.? Thinking of his source of anger and motivation scare me.
@@jeanng3372 He just wanted to die. Let him. His consciousness ends as soon as he dies.
@@qwmx Well then you will be charged for abetment of suicide.
It doesnt matter how old he or she is. An eye for an eye. He or she have to pay for the crime they commited.
Ya they will pay in the underworld
YASS Daniel. Like you said, an eye for an eye. Doesn’t matter if the whole world goes blind. 😂 People should pay for their wrongdoings. Like how the whole world is paying now for climate change. I think you’ll be super happy to receive your share of the deal when fire and water say hello to you like in other countries. So unfair right? How can things not be fair?
It’s just very upsetting . Can’t imagine the parents situation now.
It's a very very terribly sad and deeply hurts, too painful
@@adamharrold407 no no worries, you are too kind 😊
@@adamharrold407 dude their child is dead and I really think they don't want to see these kind of comments to be constantly reminded of this incident
I cant imagine how the victims parents felt, saying bye to their son thinking they’ll come home and talk about their day and spend time together but instead they get a call from the police, a parents worst nightmare
He is below 18. We will never know who is he. So nothing can be done. Let it be.
People talk ... is there a law against gossiping?
If he's between 7-12, he'd spend a maximum of 20 years for murder in Juvenile Confinement. But since he's passed that, I'd say 30-50 years in prison and 24 strokes of a cane.
All thanks to the unnecessary Children and Young Persons Act
@@Felix_SG there is a law against doxxing
@@theinquisitor7191 errrr....did you watch the video explained by a Criminal Lawyer ?
thanks for explaining purely basing on legal perspective...
What is worst, I live in Punggol and this happened at Singapore, my friend, has a cousin who studies at River Valley. I feel so sad for the poor guy, he died so early. I hope this does not happen to anyone else..
this lawyer speaks and articulate very well....at a very relaxed pace.....without any put on accent.....TERBAIK TUAN....frm a malaysian....
Me too! Previously I saw him and his partner on TV, a talkshow program.
This excellent lawyer is called Josephus Tan, as it wasn't mentioned in the credits.
0:42 right up front bruh
Thank you for the detailed explanation on the laws in Singapore. Appreciate it!
I now get a clearer picture, thanks for this video. More such videos please.
MOE, please do consider putting in more resources in having full-time / professional counselors in the school.
Agreed, for the short-term need to assign toilet ambassadors also.
They really should allow actually qualified counsellors to work in schools, my sec sch counsellors were full of shit (excluding the career guidance counsellor) and when my friend made a difficult choice of seeking for help with the counsellers, neither did they help to better her situation or at least provide useful advice they actually made her situation worst. Adults who are not 'qualified' for psychological jobs can impact vulnerable youths heavily even if it was unintentional.
@@yourmamandi Truely True and i agree wif u as i hv one spcial child +anxiety..as a mothr i am the most worried n sad whn get ti know my dghtr got problms in herself at schl..i gv my best work wif the schl and the doctor just bcoz dont want my child go to the worst and do not want anythngs can b get effected in more DANGEROUS..as i also hv a frnd she hv a son is just hv to go IMH since he just join an (NS)and his anxiety started again when his in nervous and so on..but right now he still under medication and still under monitors by the Dctor,Psychlogy and his Sir Sargent for him for now and then,still not sure is either he is alligible/fit(good enough)to serve in the camp(of army)?as some times...pples not know what is going on?what we here gone through?even it is HARDEST for the childs and the families which if don't have enough resourcs/helps/(even supports/understands)from others, but instead..?Just the WRONGS JUDGEMENT AND LOOK DOWNs from Others..So Unfair..So Cruel..So Sad..So Helpless..So Mean..When This All Have To Face/Feel.. The Feelings That No One Know../Want To Know And Care Abt..Humananity is Only by (NAME)..Not by Nature Anymore..Think..Think.. And Think..🤔🤔🙏🙏🙏😥😥😥😥
@@hauyaohuiify Hopefully toilet ambassador just help check if toilet got weapon or unsound people and not stare at ppl the entire time while they peeing because I unable to pee if ppl keep staring at me lol..
Working previously in forensics, we come across no lack of serious cases all the time. This is not the first such case in SG anyways, there are number of cases not made public. Usual procedure is: He'll probably be remanded in psychiatric institution, CPC or otherwise, indefinitely. In that period he might head over to CWC or RTC until 21 years old, then transfer to penal unit. Whether crazy or not, he may face life imprisonment in CPC. Sometimes this can be minimum 20 years, or indefinitely in the psych unit.
There are also cases where crazy murderers are released from prison after 30 years and into mental institution, the release from CPC depends on juridical decision. So it'll be psych ward from 16-18, then CPC RTC till 21, then either CPC psych or penal indefinitely.
In other words, it is literally imprisonment for life until old age then release?
@@cloudyday1617 Depends; on the severity of the psychiatric condition and court decision.
I am truely saddened. I hope he gets a fair trial and proper care. My heart goes out for him and all the families affected.
Very educational and informative. Thank you.
He should go to every secondary school to share and teach all levels of students what's Law in Singapore
Highlights :
Murder -
Most important in a case involving murder :
> Age of the offender
The minimum age of criminal responsibility in Singapore ( MACR )
> 10 yrs old
If offender is between age 10-12 yrs old :
> Lacks the maturity to understand the nature and consequences of your offending behavior
> Will not be put through the justice system
( Won't be charged or trialled )
If the offender is between age 12-15 yrs old
> Charged under the Youth Court
If the offender is above 16 yrs old
> Charged under the State Court
Serious and grave offences not amounting o
1.) Kidnapping
2.) Rape
3.) Murder
4.) Drug Trafficking
> Can be charged under the High Court
4 types of murders in Singapore:
1.) Section 300(a)
2.) Section 300(b)
3.) Section 300(c)
4.) Section 300(d)
Section 300(a)
> Mandatory death penalty
Section 300(b),(c)&(d)
> Life imprisonment of min 20 yrs OR
> Maybe liable for caning OR
> Death penalty
If offender is age 18 and above
> Section 300(a)
> Section 300(b),(c) or (d)
If offender is below age 18 and below
> Section 314
( No death penalty but life imprisonment or maybe caning )
Caning
> Max 10 strokes with light-duty rattan ( Below age 16 yrs old )
> Max 24 strokes with a rattan diameter of 1.27 cm ( Above 16 yrs old )
Caning in Singapore cannot be done in installments and have to be done in one sitting
Life Imprisonment
> Min 20 yrs of natural life before parole
Types of murder defences:
1.) Grave & sudden provocation
2.) Self-defence
3.) Sudden fight
4.) Diminished responsibility
> Sudden impairment of the mind
Thank you for addressing this
Thanks Josephus for sharing 👍🏼
I remember going home from the third language center and being completely horrified at the news. My classmates sent me a link to CNA’s evaluation or something and I remember just sitting in the car being completely speechless on the way home. Then, a week later, I hear news about a student falling from height in another school, and then a basketball structure killing another boy. What’s even worse was that the boy who was killed by the basketball structure was a friend of my sister’s classmate, who is devastated. Alongside the sudden spike in Covid cases, this month has been terrible.
Also random funny fact: my sister is now a conspiracist. Don’t ask
Now I have learnt a law. Thank u.
I've met the accomplice of a murder case when i was in prison,his partner was already send to the gallow as he was eligible due to his age,the accomplice since he was still at the age of 16 was sentenced to TPP ( till president pleasure )their case was a terrible one,victim was beaten while still alive unconsious they burned him to death,the case of Rathakrishnan Ramasamy & Ramu Annadavascan in 1981,Ramu met the hangman he was only 22 yrs old,Ramasamy was only 16 when both did that crime in 1981,Ramasamy was a TPP & i met him in prison in 1999,all inmates are not allowed to communicate with Ramasamy & he was always escorted by wardens to be honest he did have that heartless face he would sometime stares at you for a long time,a bit scarry i can say when he gave u that kind of sharp look,someone told me Ramasamy was released in Sept 2001,hope he can change upon released
what were u in prison for if u dun mind me asking?
@@kuatiogui drug possession
Interesting story
@@Deviliciouslittledevil u got balls for admitting man ill give u that
@@sriraam4331 thanks,bro
Yes, a very tragic case. Two lives are lost, the victim as he died and the offender as his life will never be anywhere close to normal anymore whether it is lifetime incarceration in prison or the death penalty. And there's unimaginable trauma and hurt that may go on to haunt the lives of the family and friends for both the victim and the offender.
Died due to murder is not right, imprisoning a young 16 years old for the rest of his life is no justice, putting a 16 years old to death is neither right nor justice. This is a tragedy, regardless what is the outcome...
My sincere condolences to the victim and his family, my sincere sympathy to the offender and his family... If the offender had needed mental health help, I hope he finally gets it even though it is quite late at this stage due to what had happened... Tragedy and sadness beyond words.
Thank you for the knowledge and info.
Weren't the names of the two child murderers in the UK released to the public? I feel that the law should not protect the murderers' identity even if they are younger than 18 years old.
correct!
Didn’t they changed the kids’ names after that and give them a lot of protection from the public?
Thanks Josephus. Hope to watch more of your videos 👍
Thanks Jo for sharing…
What happens if the offender faints half way through the caning?
a worst possible answer will be "Semula! Start from Zero!"
I do hope thats not the case though
Splash cold water to wake him up
Probably smelling salts and carry on
i think they will have a doctor see if they can still go on, if not they will be brought back to recover and once they are well enough, they go get caning again
Depends on what you mean by at one go. If the person faint for 5 minutes can continue? What if faint 30 min? I guess best strategy to siam cane is to let the caning start ... then faint for long enough that they cannot complete the punishment at one go. :)
I have a question please.
If we interpret what has been presented in the news so far:
1. attacker has gone online to buy a weapon
2. he told students to call the cops cos he killed someone
Do these sound like he does not know what he is doing? How will these be presented to court? Mental impairment? Lack of mental soundness as it might be, it was a planned crime. As a society we need to address some of the issues raised by this crime. However, let us also not forget to ask: Who’s giving the 13 year old another chance of life? Thus for the life taken from him brainlessly, shouldn’t there be a price to pay?
High social chaste school. Planned and sane. Just because admitted to imh before dosent mean someone has mental issues. Unless if your are born with a physical mental deficiency, 99% others are all wayang one and behavioral problem most likely caused by upbringing. Even his parents already stated they wont attend his court hearing. He obviously did this for attention or out of spite for his parents. The true example of money isnt everything.
@@dink2229 So you think that people with mental issues are just acting out? Your comment pissed me off a lot. It's like you are saying that mental issues do not exist in our society.
@@mig7403 Good. Means your triggered by facts. Mental issues only apply if your born with it, since birth, real sickness which impair a person to function normally since childhood. You have the audacity to claim your offended by my statement. Its people like you that cause the mainstream generalisation of what mental sickness is and turn it into an excuse for someones lack of self control over their own temperment. Disgusting.
@@dink2229 hello where did you get the source that his family will not attend his court hearing? Can I have the link
This kid had to ruin and take away another kid's life and worst of all, they don't even know each other. That kid has so much more to live for. Rip.
Please reveal names of offenders of all criminal offences. To protect the rest of all people . Also to inform and zeros tolerance from racism. Thank-you
who this guy sia, thanks for the explanation of the law.
He's a Criminal Defence Lawyer
With an impressive past. Very inspiring.
Thank you very much for this video. Really appreciate d fact that u actually took d time to do this so that we can have proper facts instead of just wondering & listening to all d nonsense. Thank you!
Hi to the comments section. As a fellow singaporean and student myself, I would like to extend my condolences to the parents. Thank you for everyone extending their support in the comments. However, I would like to note that this is a difficult time for all, so please refrain from speculating about the incident or leaving other insensitive comments about the incident. Thank you.
You're a lawyer my dude. Button up your shirt.😂
I swear this would’ve been a bigger news if it was the 13 years old who Killed the 16 Years old despite him having an axe, it would’ve been Surprising.
average sigma 13 year old male
Then the 13 yr old would likely be forgiven since he was defending himself and he was under 16
@@yukihno. grindset
@@r.e.t.o7226 based
@@yukihno. off your mom
He planned to plead guilty to culpable homicide not amounting to murder. He’s liable to spend the rest of his life in prison and he could also be caned.
Missed point here:
Did Singapore ratify the UN convention on the rights of the child?
I remembered there is a clause saying that this UN convention prohibits life terms to be given to Juveniles (Below 18),
The lawyer here says that life terms can be given to under 18s,
Did he miss this key clause?
Hi Daniel, What happened is a real tragedy, However the UN treaty was formed with the assumption that juveniles are still developing, And therefore not beyond redemption, They should be sent to jail for a finite term, Because unlike adults they are more capable of rehabilitation, That's the reasoning behind such a treaty in the first place.
When you kill someone, whether sane or insane, one cannot be let back into society
Millions and billions of humans are killed by humans throughout history. Even the wars now. This IS OUR NATURAL SOCIETY. Apa you talking.
if they can be counsel back to a "society's normal", they should be, unless the judge had already deemed him/her unsaveable.
Tbh u forgot the only killings allowed are from fighting in a real war against enemies to protect fellow good citizens not evil citizens. So be more specific lah.
If killing someone regardless of your age doesn't matter then I will recommend the murderer to murder more people before getting caught
Thank you for this comprehensive information.
Thank you for sharing Josephus!
Very clear explanation. Well done
i use to live in aspen heights, river valley road, now im in france, im glad i left singapore before things could get too crazy
Where abouts? I have a holiday house in the middle of somewhere = Correze
1:07 "anything" above 12 years old ...
"Anything" here is correct. The "Anything" here is a verb ( any action so to speak). It is not referenced as a noun.
I just wanted to what really happen before e murde happened, hope you can also create a video on what had happened before and after too
For life imprisonment ,u have to spent the rest of your life in the jail till u die.But there's a parole after 20 years.This kind of law is definitely ridiculous in its own ways.
Yea, spending money for free food n accommodation for twenty years for a mentally sick person who has commit a murder of some innocent people. After that, be let loose into the society at large and hopefully he doesn't relapse n kill another one. Not sure who think this is a good idea.
What's wrong with getting rid of a a defect human? Life is never fair, there's so many innocent people with hard life needing help n never got sufficient help. Why don't we use the fund to help them instead. Rather than giving good life in prison for defect human being.
I rmb how the school didn't want to let outsiders know, wanting it to be settled internally but it got leaked so fast
Could not concentrate on the video as was distracted by the four paw fur cutie
Hope students in all school will be taught on the how to appreciate life as it is and in real life..
its their own brain they decide what to do.
What are the past 300a convictions?
Murder is murder, that kid deserves life in prison
Age should not come into it...he took a life. End of discussion.
very clearly explained. thank you.
i am honestly still angered by the stupid comments out there about the 16 year old boy(not on this vid but just everywhere else) like people asking why he's not getting the death penalty.
i honestly really sympathise with the boy and is really sad that no one else sees him as another victim that can be helped and instead a cold blooded murderer that can never change. there's something called mental illness okay, no one of the public knows exactly what the boy has been through even me so just stop commenting negative things about him cos it would only make things worse. thanks
??? Victim? We do not even know if his mental illness is just an excuse but what we know is he took a person life. Can you change and revive the 13 year old? He's 16 and the victim is only 13. What sympathy does he deserve? How is he able to study in a normal school despite having mental illness? Why does he deserve a second chance when he didn't give the 13 year old a second chance? Isn't it easier for him if he gets death penalty, cos it's just putting him out of his misery?
If my 13 year old son does the same to your child. You wouldn't be saying such things
@@jonathanquek7482 If he truly had a "mental illness" he wouldn't be able to study in RV lol.
@@achillesrodriguezxx3958 You’d be surprised. Many people have mental problems but refuse to talk about it. Why you ask? Scared of people judging
This and many cases had shown us parents that we need to proper educate them from early age. Parents need to have proper work life balance and commitment to be involved in their child life and mind. Don't just buy them games and eletronics and think "I am the best parent ever!". Companys, bosses and superiors, be understanding when your employees needed time off for family time. Your child or any child might be the next victim too. That is scary for me.
what about the possibility of being detained under The President's Pleasure?
This no longer applies already. Now the max sentence teenagers can get is life imprisonment (meaning that the minimum period they'll be behind bars is 20 years, following which there'll be a review every year to decide whether the prisoner is suitable to be released on parole)
Unless it's a democratically elected president or else it's no use
A life for a life. He can't restore the life he took.
I’m not too sure if the 16 year old perpetrator falls under diminished responsibility, wasn’t it reported that he’d purchased the weapon online with a plan already in mind to kill anyone? Like he didn’t even know the victim….
*Can the motive or reason behind this RVHS murder be shared to the public?*
Thank you.
I'm sorry, but the fact that people are pitying a murderer is beyond me. Everybody keeps talking about sympathy but would you still have been doing so had it been your own kid who was the victim? I highly doubt that. Nothing can compare to the pain of losing a child & the only one who has the rights to give any form of forgiveness would be that poor boy's parents!
Why not take into account the boy trying to kill himself a few years back and the mental illnesses that he may have?
@@wiIIywanka yeah, no, I've been admitted to IMH for attempting suicide so try again with your pity-for-depression card. There is obviously more going on with him but I won't speak on that because I am no psychiatric professional. I'm just saying people have no rights with forgiving the killer because they are NOT the victims here.
@@asian6oy What has your comment got to do with the video? Nothing of what you just said is relevant to this video. No one cares what netizens say online on social media, please take your BS outta here.
@@asian6oy right ?many people have struggled with depression n deal wif mental illness but nobody has e right to take a life much less pity somebody who just took a so much younger 1
@@klos5612 it's the internet, Karen, I can do whatever tf I want.
Very informative...thanks
Don't let anger turn into hatred... Even when being angry, you are also not in the right frame of mind to think properly... Seek for professional help or call the helpline if something is bothering you, it is alright to seek for help... I pray everyone in the world can stay calm, safe and healthy...
Please Google psychosis. Not every crime is trigger by human emotions or mood disorders.
I won't be suppressed all schools with have X - Ray machines at every entrance and exits, just like Changi Airport departure terminal
You can't judge people based on their age alone. Face it .
Somemore there is one 19 years old girl on ig go make fun of the tragedy. Shame on her. She is already 19 years old and she still not mature enough to know that what she is going to do is wrong
Kid: gets murdered
Government: we must strive to work together and create friendships, also don't forget to wear ur mask
What do masks have to do with this?
Dunt worry got money hired good lawyer can get light sentence from the charges.
Example like recent case at orchard tower..
i dont care what exception they have , if they have killed then being released back into the public only endangers everyone more than necessary. this kid needs to have life in imprisonment
Perfectly fair way to deal with young murders.
*Me trying to think of ways to cheat the system*
*What happens if the offender died half way through the caning?*
RIP
Boba Fett ... Take it away and bury it...
ask changi prison commissioner bro..we are not expert
"if he dies, he dies" lol
@@rosemarydudley9954 Whats the cause of death?
The strict laws implemented in Singapore, like caning, have kept criminal offenses very low compared to other South East Asian nations. Singapore did have a very violent past with criminal syndicates, gang wars, opium dens, smuggling and corruption. In this particular case this young offender would probably get life imprisonment after being declared guilty with diminished responsibilty due to mental illness. Sad! Two young lives destroyed in the bud! The murderer and his victim!
3-5 years mental hospital
10-15 years boys home.
As perpetrator is alr 16, most likely will have to serve time in prison.
Watch the video and stop speculating 🤦♂️, they alrdy answered in 2:15 he will served life imprisonment.
Also in 3:23 of the video says it has to be 20 years at least during the imprisonment, then he can be eligible for "parole interview" aka early prison release temporarily or permanently which shocked me cuz I didnt know life imprisonment can get parole if deemed sane by the doctor after 20 years of imprisonment...
@@joshuakoh1291 that is IF he is convicted to a murder.
3:52
Lawyer did say if the person suffered from depression or mental disorder. It could be reduced sentence or even not a murder charge
@@poolfans I forgot he got mental condition since he have been to IMH 2 years ago. Also this incident he targeted random 13 years old kid who he dont even know. So probably not gonna be convicted to a murder and get murder charges but get reduce charges...
Also its hilariously ironic your entire op comment is about "if" he is not convicted to a murder. And u even throw in random bs years range with small range difference u created. SO how about u stop spreading misinfos in ur speculation? My earlier assumption for the final sentencing of him getting murder charges was based on him killing with intent but I forgot he isnt mentally sound, anyway I will also stop assuming the final sentencing so u stop too. Since the authorities(MOE, police etc) literally ask us to refrain from speculating and wait for correct infos aka real final sentencing to be released. Though I have to said it is kinda hypocrite of you to said mine was entire based on "if" when u did it way before me in the first place in your op comment..
Thank you this help a lot :D
Even the dog sad sia............
That young man at 16 now is gonna be ready for parole at the age of 46 what a poor young man this all could have been prevented...
An eye for an eye
*_"An eye for an eye"_* & soon enough everybody is blind
Thanks for this explainer. Very informative.
How a person survive the caning at one go. 😭
Can’t imagine how long it will take for recovery ?
That's retribution for doing evil deeds, one have to be responsible for one's act
Don’t do it lor…
@@clarilynlim7762 i agree with you that it’s retribution for doing evil deeds and people need to be responsible 🙃 I like how Taoist or Buddhist people thinks that everyone should burn in hell because they are evil, only difference between remember your past wrongdoings or not. Now the whole world burn in hell because we all deserve it.
Because no one deserve sympathy if they commit crime. Don’t matter if you’re 16 years old who axed someone and has to bear the weight forever, or 61 years old dying of Covid or floods or fire 😉 We all get what we deserve 🙃 I wonder what is on the plate served to you, and what do you serve to others?
came for the info, stayed for josephus voice
An offering to the algorhythm
Good info....... 👍
how painful is prison cane
Painful enough to remind the offender not to repeat his mistakes in the future
Salt on large wound kind of feeling I guess but multiply it by 2
When sleeping, the guy has to lie on the bed on his stomach- for months. When sitting on a chair he needs a rubber swimming float with hole in the centre. Now you can guess the pain index.
Thanks! very informative.
I actually feel slightly sorry for the murderer. He threw away such a bright future he could have had. His parents didnt even show up to court with him, as if they couldnt bring themselves to support their son by the sidelines anymore.
You don’t have to lol, he deserves to be in prison for life
he wasted his whole life Future , study in top high school & now regret in life imprisonments with caning
@@chanparker7407 everyone deserves some sort of pity. I pity him for being stupid and throwing his life away. He deserves to be in prison yes,(maybe executed because I'm not that kind, Id rather get rid of social pests) but that's not the point. There's nothing wrong in pitying someone who choose the wrong choice in life while hating them. Because that could be anyone and decisions make a big impact in our lives. When I pity him, it helps me ensure myself that I would NEVER be like that guym
@@rainl4750 yea agreed, IMO 16 year old should be able to think what’s wrong and what’s right. So it’s on him this time
@@chanparker7407 I love how u guys just judge without finding out that person is sane or insane. If someone is insane is for ex like he said driving a car when that person is fall asleep u cannot blame that person