@Moon Rambo ...not for the ride. Well, unlike cars we have very limited space to carry things around, but I always check and double check the weather report. If there's even the slightest chance that I may encounter bad weather then I grab extra gear. True for being on foot too.
Exactly - I always tell my kids, dress like you're going to be outdoors for at least an hour. Then if you crash and are unconscious you won't die of hyperthermia before you awake. Tennis shoes and jeans won't cut it in any remote area.
One of my best flight lessons didn’t involve an airplane. It was a road trip to various places that we had flown over previously and even did approaches on… what often looks like a good place to land isn’t always the best choice.
I nearly landed a glider on a 30° sideward slope. It looked perfect from above. By chance, this „field“ was next to the road I used to use to get to the airfield, so I knew it was a hill not a field. Seldom you have the chance to see a field before you have to use it. It might be a good idea, though, to check the fields around your airfield.
We did this when Paragliding, on the way to the flying site we would check out possible emergency landing areas. Checking for power lines or trees that might cause rotor.
People commenting he should have landed on the road probobly aren't pilots. There are several reasons not to land on a road when you have a field to choose from. A few being, cars, telephone poles and wires. A Kit Fox stall airspeed is around 28 kts or 32 mph so if he 's landing into the wind his ground speed is even less. He knows he's propably going flip over but who cares at that low speed. Once your plane is a glider it belongs to the insurance company and your goal is to protect yourself and others on the ground. Great decision making skills!
Fields are good in the summer, but roads are better in the winter. Most pilots, myself included, would go for a road all day long if at all possible. It's going to be much harder to get assistance or rescue in the middle of a snowy field. Flipping, even at that speed, can easily knock you unconscious or cause concussions or injury. Help will come much faster if you're on the road, regardless of whether or not you're injured. In addition, roads are usually cleared of snow and landing is much safer. Like you said, the Kit Fox can land slow and short enough that just a small section of straight road will be sufficient. Cars will move. Yeah, watch out for power lines but just find a road without them. If you can't at least try to land as close to the road as possible.
@@Ezonial nothing is without risks but I'd rather risk getting hit by a car than flipping in a field in winter conditions where my rescue is going to be much harder.
All things considered, I'd say rather fortunate. The important things went well, and the pilot walked away, hopefully without frostbite. Well done, pilot! I assume the appearent radio silence was due to being edited out.
@@jonascarlsson1290 no, this nincompoop made no radio calls. He also apparently expected to just drop down onto fresh, deep snow without skis. Admittedly I've never done it, but I've heard of bush pilots "skimming" the surface on something between a low approach and a touch n' go. Not a full touch, but a light skim while keeping enough energy to keep the wing flying and get back in the air expeditiously.
@@ParadigmUnkn0wn You can clearly see him talking on the radio when the audio cuts out. I also don't think he expected to put it down in the snow, but that was his list of options.
I feel for you. Been there done that! See lots of RUclipsrs playing in the snow. It's not worth it. When the snow grabs you there's no reaction fast enough or plane powerful enough to get out of the situation.
@@mattpierson6206 yet he tried to land in the snow, obviously. it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you. best thing you can do is do a full stall landing, minimum possible airspeed before touching the snow, carry as little energy as you can when breaking through that crusty layer. Always assume there is a crusty layer.
@@neilis2405 Not necessarily. Snow can be worse than trees, depending upon the snow type, what's below the snow, and what kind of trees we're talking about. I fly in some of the most heavily forested and cold snowy regions in the US. Even guys trying to land on snow intentionally here (snow skies, packed snow runways, ice runways, etc.) have flipped their planes on landing.
Props for the immediate switch off on the electrics. Really happy you were not badly injured ( at all? ) Little plane is robust and appeared to protect you well. Cold though! Hope you didn't have to wait long for assistance.
@@abovesummit5116 Glad to hear!!! I’m always watching Trent Palmer with his Kit Fix. Did you have bush tires which probably wouldn’t have mattered?? Safe flying again!!!!
Looked as good as it could get to me. I enjoy seeing these guys do a good job. For the guys that always have 14 better ideas it’s a different feeling when something goes wrong at anything over about 40’ AGL than it may seem. I know this from experience not just watching. You start thinking and breathing differently really really quick. Takes a lot of will to stick with what is right and make it out of even a minor emergency. Great job
Difficult to tell your exact altitude from the snow if there's nothing to see for reference, just looks like an endless sea of white which might be 10 feet or only 2 feet away. On a sunny day you might be able to see your shadow if your flying the right way of course. Not saying this is what happened here, just pointing something out.
Great job young man, snow is a unknown landing point, you have know idea how deep it is or what's under it, just glad you lived to fly again! Some don't.
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what really gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you. And snow hides stuff.
This ended exactly as expected while trying to land in a snowy field. Easy to say from here, but why did he choose to land in snow? Of course he will flip over.
@@headdown1 he probably didn't have enough airspeed and altitude to make a tight turn to the left/right to line up, and even then he could have probably come in on an angle and slid off the road. also, trees
@@abandonedaccount123 He was at a reasonably high altitude when he crossed the highway, and had plenty of time to turn right or left to line up on it. If he is capable of landing on a runway without coming in on an angle then the highway should be no different. But it is very easy to be an armchair pilot and speculate like I am doing. He may have had good reasons for doing what he did. They just aren't clear to me.
Thanks for sharing. Curious what size tires you had on. Sometimes, if able, it helps to overfly first with power and speed to tap your mains on the surface and feel how soft it is. You can also get an idea of how deep it is too. Good job.
My instructor once told me any landing i can walk away from is a good landing , any landing i can use the plane again is an excellent landing. Looks like a good landing to me
Snow + wheels is bad combo. Depending on snow consistency (wet, hard, soft) as little as 2” can flip a plane or you could getaway with as much as 6”. Skis are a hoot! Get yourself some skis!!! Glad it appears no physical injury!
Glad you made it unscathed from that one. Would not dare to comment on the event as I-m sure you will have plenty of details that are unseen… best of luck getting it up and flying ASAP.
Maybe your thinking you could have done things differently…. But many things went right. You didn’t stall high. You flew it all the way to the ground. You put shoulder harnesses in your airplane. Good job captain.
It actually seemed like he was fighting a cross wind. That close to the ground should have told him his wind was wrong without a wind sock or flag. Going around once or twice to see when neutral rudders were good, then flat into the wind before touchdown and allowing for a last 5secs full flaps with harder nose down, and an incredibly low-Speed into soft snow, might have saved plane and pilot damage.
Good job getting it down as good as you did. This can happen in summer too when landing in crop land. Sometimes the ground is much softer than expected and has same effect.
What strikes me about this most is not the crash, but the importance of knowing completely the terrain you are flying over--and then still not really knowing. I looked at this and wondered, is that snow all on land and not lakes or water? What is under the snow? How thick is the snow? From any height shown it was impossible to answer those questions. There was no "land" or even unused streets visible. Awful situation. Glad it was over so quickly and without apparent injury. Imagine if that had tumbled into pond or something!
Not sure if you were on wheels or skis, but the flat light is what got you into this situation I think.....really hard to make out ground contours in flat light. Glad you got out safely!
@@troyjollimore4100 - Apparently not. It seems that the uploader stated that the engine was performing correctly and that this was not a forced landing.
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you. best thing you can do is do a full stall landing, minimum possible airspeed before touching the snow, carry as little energy as you can when breaking through that crusty layer. Always assume there is a crusty layer.
Great controlled landing, I got concerned with the approaching treeline, but you judged it spot on... Most important thing is you are ok, the plane can fix... I fly over water most times, so my ending ent never going to be a happy one..
Terrible landing. He choose a snowy field, with predictable results. Why not land on the highway if it is an emergency? And why land with without skies on snow if there is an alternative? Or did he have skis? I don't understand his decision making. Good job on shutdown after crash. Glad he is okay and will fly again.
@headdown1 You answered your question.....We obviously don't know all the facts and we all know putting a plane down on snow is problematic, therefore we just need to celebrate his survival, wish that we can be as lucky and move on...
@@carlosasher-leon4879 I think I did say that I was glad he survived and would fly again. Maybe you missed that part. As for me "moving on", I think I had done that, had I not? What is your point exactly? I am a private pilot and I naturally speculate about why he did what he did, like any other pilot watching this video. I guess I will "move on" now. Again.
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you. best thing you can do is do a full stall landing, minimum possible airspeed before touching the snow, carry as little energy as you can when breaking through that crusty layer. Always assume there is a crusty layer.
Amazing work, considering the situation you found yourself in. Not only was the ground covered in snow, but the sky was as white as the ground. This makes putting the nose as the correct attitude almost impossible. As for people commenting, he should have ditched on the road. That would be a terrible idea. Roads surprising as this might seem make terrible runaways for ditching aircraft. Far to many obsticles and steep turns. This guy made the right choice and chose to ditch in a nice open field with plenty of soft snow i cushion the impact.
Great job man, very scary. Where did this take place? Not to armchair quarterback but to ask your opinion, was there anything different you would have done? I saw a road as soon as your engine lost power but it happened so fast were you just looking for a nice open area to put her down? Would really help everyone else to understand your thinking incase this were to ever happen to any of us. Perhaps another video walk through of what your thinking through the flight. Again, awesome job, it all happens so fast. You have way less than time than I think we always think we have.
Excellent way to ask this. Most likely he just wanted to assure he wouldn’t hit any cars and when your mind is racing it’s probably practical to put it i back big field, you are still right tho
Okay. Totally goofy question coming from me: From this angle, I can basically see no superstructure connecting the left wing to the right. It's as though the base of each wing just connects to the outerside shell of the cockpit (skin?) and that's good enough. Somehow, even though it obviously works, it just doesn't seem strong enough. I'd have expected to see lightweight I-beam type structures running straight through the ceiling of the cockpit, going on out to and through the core of each wing. But, nope! How can planes do looping maneuvers with the wings just connected to the skin surface of the plane? Mind blown.
It doesn’t need to be extremely strong as the NE speed (never exceed) on these planes is fairly low. I’m not totally sure what the structure is called on these. But, aerobatic planes usually have different structures, you get monocoque, semi monocoque and some others I can’t remember but all the loads are calculated and monocoque designs have all the weight transferred into the skin surrounding the plane so it’s not as harsh as you would think!
Okay, unless it’s a cantilevered wing, such as the Cessna 210, or Cardinal, whose wing spar travels through the top of the fuselage, virtually all high wing airplanes are built this way. The load is shared with the wing strut, and the triangular brace is extremely strong.
Theres no spar carry thru because the wings are strutted. On a cantilever wing, the centre section has to transfer all of the lifting load to the fuselage, plus the bending force of the wing. In a strutted design the lifting force is split between the wing struts and the wing root attach.. and the bending force is just compression at the top (the one sideways tube at the front and one that the camera is probably mounted on at the back) and tension on the struts (which is far greater) that passes through the floor structure. It makes for a lot lighter structure compared to cantilever, but at the expense of drag. The rest of the tubes in the ceiling are to keep it true.
@@calvinnickel9995 can these do outside loops? Especially carrying through at the lower end of the outside loop? Admittedly an extremely example. But, I am trying to change the direction of tension on that setup. In order to see how strong that is, I guess.
Pilots always talk about the bad depth perception with water, especially at night. But I never heard the topic of depth perception being brought up with snow... Is that a legitimate concern? I'm not a pilot, but I would imagine it to be tricky.... I'm glad he didn't crash into that ground vehicle at 1:49 - maybe he used that as a reference point for depth perception, because it looked like he aimed straight for that vehicle at the end - might have been just a (scary) coincidence though....
Yup! Plus in these overcast conditions, he would have had flat light. Ain't no way in heck you'd ever be able to accurately judge it. Some people I fly with will carry bags of colored chalk or smoke bombs or something and drop them over the landing area to provide that depth perception.
Even upside down in the snow, you nailed the shutoff procedure instinctively! Good pilot right there.
Never leave home without being prepared to be forced into the weather. True in cars and planes. Glad you had an OK landing.
And motorcycles, Dress for the slide..
@Moon Rambo ...not for the ride.
Well, unlike cars we have very limited space to carry things around, but I always check and double check the weather report. If there's even the slightest chance that I may encounter bad weather then I grab extra gear. True for being on foot too.
@@moteroargentino7944 for sure, my survival kit is my passenger. I could land most anywhere and be ok for a week.
Exactly - I always tell my kids, dress like you're going to be outdoors for at least an hour. Then if you crash and are unconscious you won't die of hyperthermia before you awake. Tennis shoes and jeans won't cut it in any remote area.
Gotta love that muscle memory on shutdown sequence! Nice work.
One of my best flight lessons didn’t involve an airplane. It was a road trip to various places that we had flown over previously and even did approaches on… what often looks like a good place to land isn’t always the best choice.
I nearly landed a glider on a 30° sideward slope. It looked perfect from above. By chance, this „field“ was next to the road I used to use to get to the airfield, so I knew it was a hill not a field. Seldom you have the chance to see a field before you have to use it. It might be a good idea, though, to check the fields around your airfield.
Sometimes the ground is best place to land😂
Not a psycho? Beats a hole in the ice.
We did this when Paragliding, on the way to the flying site we would check out possible emergency landing areas. Checking for power lines or trees that might cause rotor.
You really hit the nail on the head there! Had the same kinda journey and couldn’t agree more!
People commenting he should have landed on the road probobly aren't pilots. There are several reasons not to land on a road when you have a field to choose from. A few being, cars, telephone poles and wires. A Kit Fox stall airspeed is around 28 kts or 32 mph so if he 's landing into the wind his ground speed is even less. He knows he's propably going flip over but who cares at that low speed. Once your plane is a glider it belongs to the insurance company and your goal is to protect yourself and others on the ground. Great decision making skills!
Fields are good in the summer, but roads are better in the winter. Most pilots, myself included, would go for a road all day long if at all possible. It's going to be much harder to get assistance or rescue in the middle of a snowy field. Flipping, even at that speed, can easily knock you unconscious or cause concussions or injury. Help will come much faster if you're on the road, regardless of whether or not you're injured. In addition, roads are usually cleared of snow and landing is much safer. Like you said, the Kit Fox can land slow and short enough that just a small section of straight road will be sufficient. Cars will move. Yeah, watch out for power lines but just find a road without them. If you can't at least try to land as close to the road as possible.
I’m a pilot and I chose a road in winter, like the one in this video, any day.
I’m a veteran pilot.
I’ll always take a road over a field in an emergency situation. At least the road surface is more predictable
A pilot near me chose the road a few days ago and a car ran into the plane during landing... not a good outcome for the pilot...
@@Ezonial nothing is without risks but I'd rather risk getting hit by a car than flipping in a field in winter conditions where my rescue is going to be much harder.
Very unfortunate. Always hard to tell the depth of the snow. Glad you were not seriously injured and I am sure she will fly again!
All things considered, I'd say rather fortunate. The important things went well, and the pilot walked away, hopefully without frostbite. Well done, pilot! I assume the appearent radio silence was due to being edited out.
@@jonascarlsson1290 no, this nincompoop made no radio calls. He also apparently expected to just drop down onto fresh, deep snow without skis. Admittedly I've never done it, but I've heard of bush pilots "skimming" the surface on something between a low approach and a touch n' go. Not a full touch, but a light skim while keeping enough energy to keep the wing flying and get back in the air expeditiously.
@@ParadigmUnkn0wn You can clearly see him talking on the radio when the audio cuts out. I also don't think he expected to put it down in the snow, but that was his list of options.
Naa that's a plane you scrap and never touch again.
@@ParadigmUnkn0wn "Admittedly, I don't know what I'm talking about but I'm going to criticize anyway."
I feel for you. Been there done that! See lots of RUclipsrs playing in the snow. It's not worth it. When the snow grabs you there's no reaction fast enough or plane powerful enough to get out of the situation.
J.A.T.O. rocket: "hold my beer..."
It’s ok for u man ?
Mike mateys scrappy :) that thing could power out of a stall
@@brady8103 he could hang that thing from the bar 🤣
@@cloudpandarism2627 nah....that would just bury you deeper
For winter flying in snow areas, seems that skis may be cheaper than repairs .
Ski's are for snow though, right?
i dont think he was planning on landing on the snow lol
@@mattpierson6206 yet he tried to land in the snow, obviously.
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you.
best thing you can do is do a full stall landing, minimum possible airspeed before touching the snow, carry as little energy as you can when breaking through that crusty layer. Always assume there is a crusty layer.
@@SoloRenegade He tried landing on the snow because he had engine trouble and the plane was coming down SOMEWHERE. The snow is better than the trees.
@@neilis2405 Not necessarily. Snow can be worse than trees, depending upon the snow type, what's below the snow, and what kind of trees we're talking about. I fly in some of the most heavily forested and cold snowy regions in the US. Even guys trying to land on snow intentionally here (snow skies, packed snow runways, ice runways, etc.) have flipped their planes on landing.
Glad you're OK. Looked like a great approach. Crazy how fast the snow grabbed the plane.
He doesn't care. Sucky landings get more clicks.
Yah Capt, needs skids. 💛🙏🏼
@@JDashRider ah yes, the 300k views will surely turn him a profit.
@@paddington1670 Lol
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you.
Props for the immediate switch off on the electrics. Really happy you were not badly injured ( at all? ) Little plane is robust and appeared to protect you well. Cold though! Hope you didn't have to wait long for assistance.
Amazing that he remember to turn it off before exiting
Seems like he somehow killed the Elt too though.
If I remember correctly and its been 15 yrs since my last flight, but the master switch and fuel should be turned off before ditching,
@@robertgary3561 i think he cut off mic recording
@@richarddixon146 that sounded like the sweep of an Elt that stopped.
Glad you're ok 🙌 hope the Kitfox can be repaired and the engine is ok 🙏
Engine is fine. The fox has been rebuilt. I an the process of assembly now. Thank you.
@@abovesummit5116 Great news. That which does not kill us ... ... ... ^v^
@@taproom113 does not apply to strokes and cancer...
@@sigbauer9782 Enduring CHF, TIA'a and BHP ... tell me about it ! ;-) ^v^
@@abovesummit5116 Glad to hear!!! I’m always watching Trent Palmer with his Kit Fix. Did you have bush tires which probably wouldn’t have mattered?? Safe flying again!!!!
Looked as good as it could get to me. I enjoy seeing these guys do a good job. For the guys that always have 14 better ideas it’s a different feeling when something goes wrong at anything over about 40’ AGL than it may seem. I know this from experience not just watching. You start thinking and breathing differently really really quick. Takes a lot of will to stick with what is right and make it out of even a minor emergency. Great job
Well .... you survived it .... that's all that matters at the end of the day. You stayed calm and made a good landing considering the circumstances!
Difficult to tell your exact altitude from the snow if there's nothing to see for reference, just looks like an endless sea of white which might be 10 feet or only 2 feet away. On a sunny day you might be able to see your shadow if your flying the right way of course. Not saying this is what happened here, just pointing something out.
Great job young man, snow is a unknown landing point, you have know idea how deep it is or what's under it, just glad you lived to fly again! Some don't.
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what really gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you. And snow hides stuff.
The same thing happened to me in a Bellanca Scout. I chose to land on the road, not the snow covered field. No damage to my plane.
This ended exactly as expected while trying to land in a snowy field. Easy to say from here, but why did he choose to land in snow? Of course he will flip over.
@@headdown1 he probably didn't have enough airspeed and altitude to make a tight turn to the left/right to line up, and even then he could have probably come in on an angle and slid off the road. also, trees
@@abandonedaccount123 He was at a reasonably high altitude when he crossed the highway, and had plenty of time to turn right or left to line up on it. If he is capable of landing on a runway without coming in on an angle then the highway should be no different.
But it is very easy to be an armchair pilot and speculate like I am doing. He may have had good reasons for doing what he did. They just aren't clear to me.
Thanks for sharing. Curious what size tires you had on. Sometimes, if able, it helps to overfly first with power and speed to tap your mains on the surface and feel how soft it is. You can also get an idea of how deep it is too. Good job.
That's why I always have my winter boots with me when I fly in winter.... gonna be a tough slog wearing those shoes!
Glad your Ok, great slip to land, nothing you could do about the depth of the snow causing the flip. Hope you get her back in the air soon.
My instructor once told me any landing i can walk away from is a good landing , any landing i can use the plane again is an excellent landing. Looks like a good landing to me
So true! 👍🏼
I hate that analogy. A good landing is one where you don't crash or damage the airplane, and that landing sucked big time
@@CaptainRon1913 I despise this saying. It's so played out and the fact that people are still saying it is ridiculous.
Snow + wheels is bad combo. Depending on snow consistency (wet, hard, soft) as little as 2” can flip a plane or you could getaway with as much as 6”. Skis are a hoot! Get yourself some skis!!! Glad it appears no physical injury!
1:55 "Post-crash checklist complete."
I had a forced landing in a Kitfox as well. Broken left landing gear and left wingtip damage. Very lucky indeed!
Oh that had to hurt some. Glad you are still here
I'm going to go ahead and assume all the blanks were of colourful language... Glad he lived to share with us this experience.
Glad you made it unscathed from that one. Would not dare to comment on the event as I-m sure you will have plenty of details that are unseen… best of luck getting it up and flying ASAP.
Maybe your thinking you could have done things differently…. But many things went right. You didn’t stall high. You flew it all the way to the ground. You put shoulder harnesses in your airplane. Good job captain.
Credit where its due.........
Not jumping out when miles up!
lel... could have ditched it with parachute and fire extinguishers strapped to his calfs... no? 🤣
He couldn't jump out, he'd forgotten to strap on the fire extinguishers and only had one GoPro.
@@ColinWatters you right. my bad. what was i thinking... ugh. only 1 gopro. what a noob
Well done! Love the speed you switching things off and exited the aircraft!
Ouchy! Hope you're alright! Hope your plane is okay. Looking forward to seeing you fly again!🇺🇲
Plane is definitely not ok
So sorry for you, nice quick reactions to power down and get out. I know it doesn't help but any landing you can walk away from is a good landing.
It actually seemed like he was fighting a cross wind. That close to the ground should have told him his wind was wrong without a wind sock or flag. Going around once or twice to see when neutral rudders were good, then flat into the wind before touchdown and allowing for a last 5secs full flaps with harder nose down, and an incredibly low-Speed into soft snow, might have saved plane and pilot damage.
Wow, excellent presence of mind to check engine controls and unbuckle for a quick exit. Bummer about the incident.
Wrong clothes for winter flying~ Glad to see you jump out so quick. Keep flying~
Dude. That sucks. I'm so glad you're alive, though.
the way you switch off power at the end -wow
Great reaction to power everything down before exiting the aircraft, glad you’re okay!
Good job getting it down as good as you did. This can happen in summer too when landing in crop land. Sometimes the ground is much softer than expected and has same effect.
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you.
@@SoloRenegade even powder can flip a plane if there’s enough of it. Foot and a half and a kitfox wouldn’t stand a chance
Hey at least you know the ELT works! Glad you’re safe!
Worked for a solid 1.5 seconds!
I'm sorry this happened but you are ok , that all that matters . Hope your aircraft is repairable and able to fly again .
Glad you're alright man. Thank you for sharing
were there skis on the airplane?
Good job landing. You got as slow as you could
Thanks for uploading. Makes me wonder about glass water landings in seaplanes - how you have to set up an attitude and just let her land.
Good work getting it in. Can’t help what happens next ......
Glad your ok.
Holy crap. Glad you are okay. You came very close to Instrument Face there. I guess the snow was a lot deeper than it looked.
well at least you didn't immediately bail out at the first sign of trouble lol
Erimental appears to make a really sturdy airplane!
hell nice save man youre alive
What strikes me about this most is not the crash, but the importance of knowing completely the terrain you are flying over--and then still not really knowing. I looked at this and wondered, is that snow all on land and not lakes or water? What is under the snow? How thick is the snow? From any height shown it was impossible to answer those questions. There was no "land" or even unused streets visible. Awful situation. Glad it was over so quickly and without apparent injury. Imagine if that had tumbled into pond or something!
Everytime I think about signing up for my ppl for fun I watch one of these videos and save myself 12 grand haha
Holy shit the sound of that engine. Makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck
Not sure if you were on wheels or skis, but the flat light is what got you into this situation I think.....really hard to make out ground contours in flat light. Glad you got out safely!
Huh??? Did the lack of engine power not contribute a little bit? ;)
@@troyjollimore4100 - Apparently not. It seems that the uploader stated that the engine was performing correctly and that this was not a forced landing.
@@halfrhovsquared 🤦♂️
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you.
best thing you can do is do a full stall landing, minimum possible airspeed before touching the snow, carry as little energy as you can when breaking through that crusty layer. Always assume there is a crusty layer.
wow! hard to know when your choice of fields can only be those covered in snow. Good job.
youtubers are all phenomena and top gun behind the desk, but landing in the snow is very very difficult and risky.
Better could be impossible, great job keeping the descend with speed, good you are okay!
well done mate you are alive...but i see a lot of mistakes here...anyway you are alive and thats the first thing....
Did I see a many mile long paved road? Wires I assume?
Glad you’re ok. Scary stuff
Glad you're okay! Good job controlling the approach and landing.
Glad you're safe! Looks like a terrifying experience. Out of curiosity, why didn't you choose the plowed road?
probably possible powerlines, wouldve been much worse
@@sethking5421 Easier to clip a tree as well. It looks super narrow.
you are more important than an airplane. glad that you were ok.
Great controlled landing, I got concerned with the approaching treeline, but you judged it spot on...
Most important thing is you are ok, the plane can fix...
I fly over water most times, so my ending ent never going to be a happy one..
Terrible landing. He choose a snowy field, with predictable results. Why not land on the highway if it is an emergency? And why land with without skies on snow if there is an alternative? Or did he have skis? I don't understand his decision making. Good job on shutdown after crash. Glad he is okay and will fly again.
@@headdown1 theres active traffic??????
@headdown1 You answered your question.....We obviously don't know all the facts and we all know putting a plane down on snow is problematic, therefore we just need to celebrate his survival, wish that we can be as lucky and move on...
@@carlosasher-leon4879 I think I did say that I was glad he survived and would fly again. Maybe you missed that part.
As for me "moving on", I think I had done that, had I not? What is your point exactly?
I am a private pilot and I naturally speculate about why he did what he did, like any other pilot watching this video.
I guess I will "move on" now. Again.
@@devonyt5501 I looked closely at the video again, and the highway looks pretty quiet. Less cars than all of your exclamation points. :)
Good landing considering the situation, glad you're okay.
Cool pal cool nicely done 😁👍
Don't know what swear word you used when crash landing, but the minions would say "Pukka!"
Bummer man. I hope you're OK.
could have been worse my friend! i liked how quickly you got out of thered
Woah! Glad you’re ok!
Way to stay calm, close it down and get out. Glad you are OK.
Glad you’re ok!! It’s just a piece of equipment..Nice job!
I know I'm late, but glad you are OK. A good landing is one you can walk away from!
Nice job. Too bad the snow tripped you up. Would have had little or no damage most of the year. Glad you're OK!
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you.
best thing you can do is do a full stall landing, minimum possible airspeed before touching the snow, carry as little energy as you can when breaking through that crusty layer. Always assume there is a crusty layer.
Slipping upon landing and skis caught?
Amazing work, considering the situation you found yourself in. Not only was the ground covered in snow, but the sky was as white as the ground. This makes putting the nose as the correct attitude almost impossible. As for people commenting, he should have ditched on the road. That would be a terrible idea. Roads surprising as this might seem make terrible runaways for ditching aircraft. Far to many obsticles and steep turns. This guy made the right choice and chose to ditch in a nice open field with plenty of soft snow i cushion the impact.
That sucks, glad you’re ok.
Bummer about the crash. That was a quality side slip you pulled off though.
Nicely done
Handled it well and got out quickly. very nice.
Glad you’re ok!! Would you mind to share what happened?
Great job man, very scary. Where did this take place? Not to armchair quarterback but to ask your opinion, was there anything different you would have done? I saw a road as soon as your engine lost power but it happened so fast were you just looking for a nice open area to put her down? Would really help everyone else to understand your thinking incase this were to ever happen to any of us. Perhaps another video walk through of what your thinking through the flight. Again, awesome job, it all happens so fast. You have way less than time than I think we always think we have.
Excellent way to ask this. Most likely he just wanted to assure he wouldn’t hit any cars and when your mind is racing it’s probably practical to put it i back big field, you are still right tho
He didn't lose power. He was landing. He just stuck his gear in the snow and flipped over.
You are perhaps the nicest guy on RUclips
@@captaindunsel2806 it does sound like his engine cut out and he was trying to restart it
@@captaindunsel2806 yeah he definitely had power the whole time
Glad you’re ok
Very educational thanks!
Looks like a long walk to civilization.
will you be fitting big fat tyres or preferably skis next time?
Man, i hope i can keep it together to do an inverted shutdown procedure like that
I'm glad that you made it out OK. I'm sorry about the bent plane
bummer man! glad your ok
Valves on the rotax?
Okay. Totally goofy question coming from me:
From this angle, I can basically see no superstructure connecting the left wing to the right. It's as though the base of each wing just connects to the outerside shell of the cockpit (skin?) and that's good enough.
Somehow, even though it obviously works, it just doesn't seem strong enough.
I'd have expected to see lightweight I-beam type structures running straight through the ceiling of the cockpit, going on out to and through the core of each wing. But, nope!
How can planes do looping maneuvers with the wings just connected to the skin surface of the plane?
Mind blown.
It doesn’t need to be extremely strong as the NE speed (never exceed) on these planes is fairly low. I’m not totally sure what the structure is called on these.
But, aerobatic planes usually have different structures, you get monocoque, semi monocoque and some others I can’t remember but all the loads are calculated and monocoque designs have all the weight transferred into the skin surrounding the plane so it’s not as harsh as you would think!
@@coben9566 amazing!
Mind blown
Okay, unless it’s a cantilevered wing, such as the Cessna 210, or Cardinal, whose wing spar travels through the top of the fuselage, virtually all high wing airplanes are built this way. The load is shared with the wing strut, and the triangular brace is extremely strong.
Theres no spar carry thru because the wings are strutted.
On a cantilever wing, the centre section has to transfer all of the lifting load to the fuselage, plus the bending force of the wing.
In a strutted design the lifting force is split between the wing struts and the wing root attach.. and the bending force is just compression at the top (the one sideways tube at the front and one that the camera is probably mounted on at the back) and tension on the struts (which is far greater) that passes through the floor structure.
It makes for a lot lighter structure compared to cantilever, but at the expense of drag.
The rest of the tubes in the ceiling are to keep it true.
@@calvinnickel9995 can these do outside loops? Especially carrying through at the lower end of the outside loop?
Admittedly an extremely example. But, I am trying to change the direction of tension on that setup. In order to see how strong that is, I guess.
What an amazing save brother. I know you lost the plane but any life saved is a good day.🙌🙏
Amazing save? How do you figure that?
@@maxsdad538 He lived with not many options to land. That's how I figure.
You're able to walk away from it, so, well done bud!
the only criticism i have is you should have yelled .."GO GO Gadget SKIS!"
Bummer sorry about the plane. Glad you made it out okay!!!
How bad was the walk?
Pilots always talk about the bad depth perception with water, especially at night.
But I never heard the topic of depth perception being brought up with snow...
Is that a legitimate concern? I'm not a pilot, but I would imagine it to be tricky....
I'm glad he didn't crash into that ground vehicle at 1:49 - maybe he used that as a reference point for depth perception, because it looked like he aimed straight for that vehicle at the end - might have been just a (scary) coincidence though....
Yup! Plus in these overcast conditions, he would have had flat light. Ain't no way in heck you'd ever be able to accurately judge it. Some people I fly with will carry bags of colored chalk or smoke bombs or something and drop them over the landing area to provide that depth perception.
Glad you made it out okay.
You never want to hear the sound of the ELT going off....
Yea you do it means your alive
Not bad, captain. I can think of a LOT of different endings that are not nearly as happy as flipping a 1400 pound airplane in 3 feet of soft snow.
Wow! They say any landing you can walk away from was a good landing