The perspective from the other court showing the distance of contact from the body to identify the shot is great! Everything about your videos is great.
You are so good at this kind of video coaching. The way you use split screens, different camera views, balls on the court, annotations, and so on is brilliant. I've always loved hitting inside-out forehands because they're more fun, but now I fully understand the geometry that makes them so hard to read.
I always felt that I can disguise my shots much better when running around my backhand. Now I know why thanks to your highly analytical approach. Always enjoy your videos. Clear logic, feels like an engineering textbook (in a good way)
Hey Tomaz. Very insightful and helpful video. I avoid running around my backhand to make sure that my backhand doesn't remain a weak and neglected shot forever. What is your advice for a recreational player? How often should we do it and how to make sure it doesn't make the BH a weaker stroke?
Good point! Yes, if you avoid hitting backhands then they never get enough repetition to stabilise and become consistent. So if one is focused on long term improvement, then they should hit a lot of backhands until they become very consistent. After that you can start applying more inside out forehands if of course the forehand is really better and it's worth the risk of losing your position.
Very interesting subject once again sir. Never thought of all that. I would only add that, hitting inside out, feels strangely good (for me anyway). :) :)
Is the inside out/in shot any more or less effective if done by a left-handed person into a right handed player, and should the shot selection strategy change at all?
Yes, in most cases you are hitting to a better stroke of the player and they have better chance of taking the advantage of that open space. But in terms of anticipation and reading the stroke it's the same - it's almost impossible to read the direction of the shot.
Tomaz, I am told I have a good bh slice. I never used it much growing up (because I had a macho hang up that slices are wimpy). Now I am too old to care about my macho image - plus younger opponents are crushing me - and suddenly I find my interest in slice bh’s...rekindled. 😅 So what do you think of hitting a slice bh short-but-hard to my opponents fh? I say this because I believe it’s hard to make a good shot off of a low, skidding ball to the fh. Most people will slice that ball back when it’s to the bh side, but off the fh they have to pop the ball up, usually flat or at least a poorly hit fh slice. I’m thinking of trying this strategy coupled with high-bouncing topspin balls to their bh. What do you think of this, assuming I’m in a reasonable position to attempt these shots and not putting myself in immediate trouble due to recovery issues. They’re both dtl shots (my slice bh to rightly fh, and my topspin fh to righty bh), so it kind of flies in the face of conventional thinking (what some might call _common sense_ thus increasing its appeal, of course. Your thoughts?
Forgot to state my objective. I hope to create a defensive “duck” that I can ghost in and put away at the net. That or get a short sitter and blast it into the net at (literally) blistering pace! No wait, that’s not it... Oh, you know what I mean! !
It's a good strategy but the question is always if you have the skill to pull it off. Intentionally playing a short slice is not easy because it needs to stay low. If flies a bit too high, it's an easy ball to attack. If it goes too low, well, it goes into the net. So you have a very small window above the net that you need to hit for this to work. So for one you need the skill and for two, you'll need to pick the right situation very carefully so that you attempts those slices on easy balls from your opponent where you'll have that necessary accuracy...
Are there different ways to play the inside out?, some players to get in place like Nadal seem to side shuffle really fast then hit whit spin, Federer seems to do a big cross step and then hit it really flat..
If you have confidence in your inside-out forehand, and you execute it deep and well, I would try to come in on the shot. This would further reduce your opponent's angles. If your opponent can pass you, the inside-out probably wasn't executed well enough or it wasn't the optimal shot selection. I don't recall seeing many of Courier's or Graf's inside out forehand coming back as winners.
You are very very far from the optimal position at the net and you will likely not make it therefore your opponent can easily pass you down the line. You would need to be well inside the court and not to far from the centre line to be able to pull that one off...
The only tell I see is the stance being more closed for the inside in shot. The problem is that same shot is easily executed with the other stance too.
Yes, and actually that's coincidence, in most cases the stance would have been exactly the opposite, so more closed to inside out and more open for inside in.
The perspective from the other court showing the distance of contact from the body to identify the shot is great! Everything about your videos is great.
Fabulous content. Clear, concise, understandable. The split screen approach and the narrative was perfect.
Much appreciated!
You are so good at this kind of video coaching. The way you use split screens, different camera views, balls on the court, annotations, and so on is brilliant. I've always loved hitting inside-out forehands because they're more fun, but now I fully understand the geometry that makes them so hard to read.
Very much appreciated, stay tuned for more videos!
I always felt that I can disguise my shots much better when running around my backhand. Now I know why thanks to your highly analytical approach. Always enjoy your videos. Clear logic, feels like an engineering textbook (in a good way)
Great information! Thanks coach for pointing out the recovery positions
One of your best videos yet !! Thanks
This was really interesting analysis. I had never thought about this. Thanks
Greaaaaat explanaiton Tom, thank you very much!
Great video editing and diagrams!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Been around Tennis for 60 years and this is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen
Very much appreciated!
Fantastic🎉 Thank you
Great as usual!!
Very smart analysis 👍
Fantastic. Thanks so much
Great video Tomaz, will put this into practice. Can you do a video on sliding on groundstrokes on clay courts?
There are quite a few good videos on that topic already out there, check this one and related ones: ruclips.net/user/shortsmqmBadKEVNs
Love this video. Now only if I could execute with such precision 😂!
Hey Tomaz. Very insightful and helpful video.
I avoid running around my backhand to make sure that my backhand doesn't remain a weak and neglected shot forever. What is your advice for a recreational player? How often should we do it and how to make sure it doesn't make the BH a weaker stroke?
Good point! Yes, if you avoid hitting backhands then they never get enough repetition to stabilise and become consistent. So if one is focused on long term improvement, then they should hit a lot of backhands until they become very consistent. After that you can start applying more inside out forehands if of course the forehand is really better and it's worth the risk of losing your position.
Lendl says hi 👋😀 thanks tho, nice overview 👍
Very interesting subject once again sir. Never thought of all that. I would only add that, hitting inside out, feels strangely good (for me anyway). :) :)
Right on!
Is the inside out/in shot any more or less effective if done by a left-handed person into a right handed player, and should the shot selection strategy change at all?
Yes, in most cases you are hitting to a better stroke of the player and they have better chance of taking the advantage of that open space. But in terms of anticipation and reading the stroke it's the same - it's almost impossible to read the direction of the shot.
Tomaz, I am told I have a good bh slice. I never used it much growing up (because I had a macho hang up that slices are wimpy). Now I am too old to care about my macho image - plus younger opponents are crushing me - and suddenly I find my interest in slice bh’s...rekindled. 😅
So what do you think of hitting a slice bh short-but-hard to my opponents fh? I say this because I believe it’s hard to make a good shot off of a low, skidding ball to the fh. Most people will slice that ball back when it’s to the bh side, but off the fh they have to pop the ball up, usually flat or at least a poorly hit fh slice.
I’m thinking of trying this strategy coupled with high-bouncing topspin balls to their bh. What do you think of this, assuming I’m in a reasonable position to attempt these shots and not putting myself in immediate trouble due to recovery issues. They’re both dtl shots (my slice bh to rightly fh, and my topspin fh to righty bh), so it kind of flies in the face of conventional thinking (what some might call _common sense_ thus increasing its appeal, of course. Your thoughts?
Forgot to state my objective. I hope to create a defensive “duck” that I can ghost in and put away at the net. That or get a short sitter and blast it into the net at (literally) blistering pace! No wait, that’s not it... Oh, you know what I mean! !
It's a good strategy but the question is always if you have the skill to pull it off. Intentionally playing a short slice is not easy because it needs to stay low. If flies a bit too high, it's an easy ball to attack. If it goes too low, well, it goes into the net. So you have a very small window above the net that you need to hit for this to work.
So for one you need the skill and for two, you'll need to pick the right situation very carefully so that you attempts those slices on easy balls from your opponent where you'll have that necessary accuracy...
Thanksss
Are there different ways to play the inside out?, some players to get in place like Nadal seem to side shuffle really fast then hit whit spin, Federer seems to do a big cross step and then hit it really flat..
I think that would be complicating things... Each player has their own style, it's important not to try and copy styles but the fundamentals.
If you have confidence in your inside-out forehand, and you execute it deep and well, I would try to come in on the shot. This would further reduce your opponent's angles. If your opponent can pass you, the inside-out probably wasn't executed well enough or it wasn't the optimal shot selection. I don't recall seeing many of Courier's or Graf's inside out forehand coming back as winners.
You are very very far from the optimal position at the net and you will likely not make it therefore your opponent can easily pass you down the line. You would need to be well inside the court and not to far from the centre line to be able to pull that one off...
The only tell I see is the stance being more closed for the inside in shot. The problem is that same shot is easily executed with the other stance too.
Yes, and actually that's coincidence, in most cases the stance would have been exactly the opposite, so more closed to inside out and more open for inside in.
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