Will an electric fat bike become my new favourite winter urban commuter?

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  • @EmpedoclesdeTebas
    @EmpedoclesdeTebas 3 года назад +87

    I have owned a fat ebike for 3 years and I love it. It came with fenders, lights and rack from the factory. It isn't a 6k but a 2k bike with 9 levels of pedal assist.
    I agree with your comments about potential corrosion and parking outside. I worry about that.

    • @n3m0k54
      @n3m0k54 3 года назад +9

      Would you mind sharing what model it is? I'm currently searching possible options for fat ebike.

    • @mmmmmMuffinz
      @mmmmmMuffinz 3 года назад +5

      what make and model is the bike you got ? 2k is my max price limit

    • @dawpps
      @dawpps 3 года назад +5

      does your battery still work? My battery crapped out after less than 2 years, and I can’t get a replacement. Apparently the batteries only last 2-4 years and the cold damages them.

    • @EmpedoclesdeTebas
      @EmpedoclesdeTebas 3 года назад +6

      @@n3m0k54 Voltbike Yukon750

    • @EmpedoclesdeTebas
      @EmpedoclesdeTebas 3 года назад +5

      @@dawpps my battery is still good but I don't use the bike every day.

  • @mollygarner9562
    @mollygarner9562 3 года назад +41

    My daily commuter/grocery getter is an ebike with 2.3 inch wheels (2.1 for my studded set). It’s a great way to get around. I can vary the level of assist by percentage so I definitely get a good workout without getting TOO sweaty on my way to work. Road chemicals haven’t been an issue yet. I’m also able to take the bike into the office with me so theft isn’t an issue. Ebikes really open up the road to folks who would otherwise jump in their car to get to work.

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  3 года назад +4

      I agree that it can be a good alternative to a car - sometime these decisions aren’t between different styles of bikes, it’s between a bike or a car. In that case, I say use whatever bike works for you!

    • @Dragon-Slay3r
      @Dragon-Slay3r Год назад +1

      Yeah they're trying to bring 1 down both arms for the tail

  • @Lucaslfm1
    @Lucaslfm1 3 года назад +66

    You touched the main point there. Bike theft. If you have trouble with this in FUCKING CANADA, just imagine us, mere mortals, living in the 3rd world. I tried really hard, but after having 2 bikes stolen, I tried to go for an Electric Unicycle, which can be taken inside wherever I go. The problem is these things are not as stable as a bike, so I fell really bad one time, and now I'm back to the car, and I'm going to stick to it. The upside of this journey is that every time I'm stuck in traffic now, instead of getting mad and impatient, I'll remember the alternatives and be glad that at least I'll get to my destination safely and clean.
    All my love and admiration for all bike commute warriors out there.

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  3 года назад +30

      I don’t think there’s a city in the modern world where bike theft is not a problem, and it has real-world implications like this. Thanks for sharing.

    • @shimes424
      @shimes424 3 года назад +14

      I'm surprised e-bikes don't come with GPS locators built in. All you'd need is a sim card / data plan ($10/mo with verizon) for it and you could know where your $5000 bike is at all times
      If done at the factory, they could integrate it into the frame (controllers are too cheap and easily ripped off to hide GPS)
      Makes me want to start my own ebike company; do ebikes better than those paper-pushing money-changers

    • @Minecraftrok999
      @Minecraftrok999 3 года назад +11

      @@shimes424 because insurance can actually be cheaper than a standalone GPS Bike tracker + plan.
      In some instances a lot cheaper.
      Heck, I pay 80€ insurance a year for my 3000€ Pedelec and it covers theft (bike is even covered when I just lock the wheel and grand together without an external) as well as necessary repairs and even chains, cassettes, tires when they wear out.
      They even pay my cab when I get stranded somewhere.
      Why should I pay more for a GPS Tracker than for all this plus some?

    • @jhowardsupporter
      @jhowardsupporter 3 года назад +4

      Just get a proper lock.

    • @jhowardsupporter
      @jhowardsupporter 3 года назад +1

      @@shimes424 5 grand??? What kind of ebikes you guys been buying? Put in another 5 and get an e-motorcycle.

  • @Emphassim
    @Emphassim 3 года назад +38

    I was lucky to find a fatbike on a great clearance sale a couple years ago and converted it to a single speed for my winter commute. It's really slow but my route has very unpredictable conditions and it's nice to know the bike can handle everything with confidence. A plus side of the noisy tires is you don't need to ring a bell very often because people hear you coming from a long way off.

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  3 года назад +5

      These are good points. Glad you found a machine that works for you!

    • @shakibs1002
      @shakibs1002 2 года назад +1

      Thank you. That makes me confident so I want to get one now

    • @dlmurray55
      @dlmurray55 2 года назад +1

      @@Shifter_Cycling what do you think about tern bikes in urban/city riding? They are easy to put in small places but I wonder how the ride is vs other city bikes. Wonder how much of a difference between them

  • @dant.6364
    @dant.6364 3 года назад +26

    Really enjoy the vibe of this channel, and that he is not trying to sell me anything like 99% of the rest of bicycle youtube lol.

    • @r__b6095
      @r__b6095 3 года назад +1

      Yeah really good point

  • @pandakso3365
    @pandakso3365 Год назад +2

    I put my comment on Turbo. The highest level of RUclips compliments. Good job!

  • @frozengoose
    @frozengoose 2 года назад +31

    Great video. I’ve moved to an electric fat bike for commuting here in the Yukon Territory. Hasn’t let me down in any temperature and it’ll go as cold as I’m willing to ride in. -15 last winter and have been pushing -22 this winter. I ride about a 20km commute everyday.

    • @seanskywalka5172
      @seanskywalka5172 7 месяцев назад +1

      Battery life decreases as temp goes down right? Have u noticed that?

    • @aaaaaanNINHAaaaz
      @aaaaaanNINHAaaaz 5 месяцев назад +1

      Whats the bike model? Brand ?

  • @superimposedtab
    @superimposedtab 3 года назад +8

    I live in Wyoming and my sole form of transportation is a 1000w AWD ebike. Having that pedal assist & duel hub moters is a game-changer for hauling my cargo trailer for groceries as well as dealing with wind and weather.

    • @mmmmmMuffinz
      @mmmmmMuffinz 3 года назад +3

      model ?

    • @superimposedtab
      @superimposedtab 3 года назад +3

      @@mmmmmMuffinz ,
      its a Super Monarch by E-Cells

    • @HISEROD
      @HISEROD Год назад

      hey there, mind if I ask how the batteries have held up against cold (or hot) temperatures? @@superimposedtab

  • @Shifter_Cycling
    @Shifter_Cycling  3 года назад +5

    Have you tried a pedal-assist fat bike?

    • @stinkypete3900
      @stinkypete3900 3 года назад +1

      No, but I have just purchased a single speed "plus" bike. I think that this may be sweet spot for urban winter commuting with 27.5 x 3" tires.

    • @micklessard9964
      @micklessard9964 3 года назад

      @@stinkypete3900 Right on! I ride a Kona Unit single speed bike with 27 x 3 inch tires. It was not perfect at the start. I changed the wheel lubricant. I could barely pedal it when I bought it in December of 2018. Now, it rides like summer time. Partly due to being 71 I changed the rear cog from 18 to a 20 tooth sprocket. Easy going now.

    • @stinkypete3900
      @stinkypete3900 3 года назад

      @@micklessard9964 Fantastic! Inspirational that you are cycling at 71!

    • @FightFilms
      @FightFilms 3 года назад

      I have. They suck.

    • @sjpconnor
      @sjpconnor 3 года назад +1

      I've had one for 2.5 years and it's been nothing but pure fun. I used to commute on it (parked it in my office, so no theft worries), but I recently retired so now it's just a fun bike to ride around town/in the woods.

  • @fransenfiets
    @fransenfiets 2 года назад +3

    I built up a 29er kinda relaxed handlebar - midrange 8-speed hydraulic disc front wheel e-assist bike and she KILLS it in the snow. Just feels so locked in. All second hand parts and everything is nonproprietary, so I was able to iteratively build it up over a year, and now it’s the best thing to hop on in my micro-urban environment

  • @elizabethsoro3421
    @elizabethsoro3421 2 месяца назад +2

    the way to stay warm is don't be in turbo, shift down to another mode where you have to work more.

  • @conantdog
    @conantdog 3 года назад +6

    I'm riding my Rad Rover fat tire ebike in the snow and it is a beast.
    With racks fenders integrated lights my bike was about 2,500 us.
    I am as you say afraid to leave it almost anywhere locked up.
    I am really impressed with rad cycles their product and quality control has gotten them a number one place in sales in the US.
    An electric fat bike is a good ebike to start with because it is so unique it fills winter and summer time activities yet as you say it's not that practical.
    No doubt I will eventually get a regular road ebike, but as you said they are very expensive right now.
    I'm waiting for priority to expand their e-bike model range 👌✌️

  • @MyronDietz
    @MyronDietz 3 года назад +16

    Great review. I appreciate your practical perspective. Thank you.

  • @johndent8813
    @johndent8813 3 года назад +5

    I totally love riding m yBosch powered Haibike Fat 6 in the snow. And, yes, I've fitted with with a rack, lights and mudguards....

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  3 года назад +3

      Great to hear. Do you feel it’s a convenient urban vehicle now?

    • @johndent8813
      @johndent8813 3 года назад +4

      @@Shifter_Cycling For where I live, yes. Though, as you say, parking in some bike racks is a pain and the concerns of theft are always present. But the whole 'ride over anything' experience of the fat tyres makes up for it.

  • @sagehiker
    @sagehiker 3 года назад +7

    I am glad you gave an open minded review. And it won't be the end of the requests. Location to me has so much to do with what makes a practical winter commuter bike. I am 68 and in 5-10 years I may make the e-bike leap, but it will be generally in the same configuration of frame and wheels I enjoy and need now. My current winter specific bike is a 26 x 2, internal hub 8, and handles the worse snow and ice in my area. The real thing against fat tires for me is how this horrid skier zips right past fat tire bikes on the local Nordic trails unless they are in a perfect bubble of conditions.

  • @RabbitsInBlack
    @RabbitsInBlack 2 года назад

    I love my e-fat bikes especially for the winter. Fat bike and studs in the winter is a must. Bike Rack and Panniers is a must for commuting and shopping.

  • @justincarrubba759
    @justincarrubba759 2 года назад +7

    I just bought a fat e bike and my main concern is not being able to bring them on train/bus mounts. It opens up so many more traveling opportunities to be able to put the back on a train or bus

    • @thebackwash
      @thebackwash 2 года назад

      Check out the new Aventon Sinch foldable. All the various public transit agencies in a 100 mile radius of me (Philadelphia) allow foldable vehicles on the train/bus.

  • @catfreak
    @catfreak 3 года назад +7

    I love my Riese und Müller charger 3 s-Pedelec with broad tires. Its belt drive, 650Wh battery and rack makes it perfect for my 50km (25km one way) daily commute.

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  3 года назад +2

      For a commute that long, a pedelec makes perfect sense. Glad it's working for you!

    • @johndent8813
      @johndent8813 3 года назад +1

      I've got the Supercharger 2 from R&M and you're correct - they are great bikes for a commute that might include some bad road surfaces or even light or medium off-roading....

  • @kirkw1740
    @kirkw1740 3 года назад +4

    I own a fat tire e-bike and I'd agree with everything you said for the most part, but the city I live in has terrible roads and virtually nonexistent bicycle infrastructure so it makes riding in the city much more enjoyable and handles the rural trails amazingly. I would love to try a 3" tire to compare them. As far as the best commuter vehicle I'm leaning more towards e-kick scooters, they can have the same speed and range as an e-bike, fold up so you can pull it behind you into a store or work, and weigh a fraction of the bike. The only issue, though it's a big one, is that they don't have the same legal status as e-bikes, at least for the moment, because they lack "pedals."

  • @robadr13
    @robadr13 3 года назад +15

    Sounds like an electric 'chubby tire' mountain bike might be a good compromise. Being a little lower to the ground feels safer in the winter as well.

  • @kimjongsquarepants4209
    @kimjongsquarepants4209 2 года назад +1

    I picked up a folding, 400W, 20X4 e-bike. Where I live, ice on the roads is a big concern so I’ll definitely pick up some studded tires ( I’m having a hard time finding some in my size.)
    It’s a 8minute bike ride to work, ive had it for 2-3 weeks and I love it to bits.

  • @psymonsc29
    @psymonsc29 Год назад

    Thank you Shifter, I am looking into a fat bike cause of snow (I live in WA state, not often but annoying) Fat bikes are the equalizer to snow, from what I take from this video, thank you. Stay safe and keep it up Brother.

  • @anssimyllymaki1624
    @anssimyllymaki1624 8 месяцев назад +1

    I ride e- fat bike. It's fun and great for communiting.

  • @merendell
    @merendell 3 года назад +4

    The main thing for staying warm in the winter on any ebike is to make sure you keep puting out the same effort you would if you had the battery off. If you use the peddle assist as an excuse to take it easy your going to get cold. Adjust the assist level so that hill feels like flat ground normaly would. If your normal pedal pace puts you at 15mph on a flat pump just as hard with assist on and you'll be going 20 instead but still be just as warm. As long as your outer shell is decent at breaking the wind a few extra MPH of wind chill isnt going to make that much of a difference if your still generating alot of body heat.
    My local weather isnt quite as cold as yours but I usualy go with a water/windproof shell and the minimum under that to not freeze my ass off in the first 2 minutes of my ride. Still a bit cold for those first 2 minutes out the door but after that I'll be warm enough even for short stops. I keep a heavier layer in the pannier for long stops. I then pick a speed I want to travle at and use the assist levels as a thermostat. Too warm? assist up and ease off peddeleing as hard to cool off. Too cold? assist down and peddle harder to maintain speed and build body heat .

    • @swecreations
      @swecreations Год назад +1

      Maybe you could add a front windscreen to the bike as well?

  • @lyingcorrectly
    @lyingcorrectly 2 года назад +1

    I don't like super wide tires, but if you are in a city with a tram system those tracks are dangerous if your tires are skinny enough to get stuck in the groove. It is often not possible to cross the tracks at a safe right angle and if your front wheel gets stuck that's a nasty crash.

  • @butters742
    @butters742 5 месяцев назад

    I just want to be safe on the road in the snow. Thanks for the review!

  • @grantrush8823
    @grantrush8823 3 года назад +1

    Love my fat bike for the winter commute. Where I live in northern BC, Canada the snow removal is pretty rough so the fat bike I found the best choice. I don't have an e bike but it looks like a blast.

  • @steveshea7725
    @steveshea7725 Год назад

    I have low powered mid drive efat, 350w middrive...top speed 18, but in reality more like 14-15mph...its a great bike for rough, loose or uneven surfaces , and the woods. This will be the first winter I get to try it.
    Tbh, it will outroll a bike Friday on even a mild downhill. It's just that the tires are so

  • @Zoyx
    @Zoyx 3 года назад +1

    I bought a Lectric XP, which is a fat tire electric bike. 20 inch by 4 inch tires. Only $900 (on sale). It was an awesome bike that was fun in the winter... until it was stolen.

  • @ToxicHwoarang
    @ToxicHwoarang Год назад

    I have been commuting to and from work and my girl friends house 25 miles away and two towns over with two different fat bikes now. I like your video but there really is nothing wrong with them as commuters urban or otherwise.
    My second fat ebike has 1300+ miles now. The old one had well over 2k

  • @andrewslejska4205
    @andrewslejska4205 3 года назад +2

    I think the Background music is a bit distracting but it would make some great b roll background music for pauses. Awesome video and thanks, I have been enjoying my e bike this winter. One thing I would like to try is getting motorcycle tires on a bicycle. The tire technology is far superior on motorcycles and I think they would last a long time as well as add better grip.

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback! TBH, I was using music on some of those scenes to try to distract from the loudness of those fat-bike tires, lol!
      I wonder if fat-bike tires are starting to measure up to motorcycle tires. Interesting how such tech evolves.

  • @ex0stasis72
    @ex0stasis72 3 года назад +5

    I got the Lectric XP with the 3" fat tires, and instead of $6000, mine is only $1000. Still a little expensive for a commuter bike, but definitely not as tough of a pill to swallow as $6000.
    Regarding staying warm in winter, I just lower my pedal assist (so I'm working harder) and travel slower (so there's less wind chill factor). A side benefit to that is that I get longer range on the battery so it's not like you're wasting the potential of what you paid for.
    Regarding the lack of urban features like fenders, bike racks, or lights, my Lectric XP came with all of those things preinstalled, and it was $1000, not $6000.
    So in other words, I wouldn't disregard fat tire e-bikes altogether. There's a balance to be had. It doesn't have to be as expensive as the one in this video, and you don't have to use the highest level of assistance either.

    • @paoloc4921
      @paoloc4921 2 года назад +2

      where the heck did you get that and where can this canadian get one? :0

  • @atomic_meltbrain6269
    @atomic_meltbrain6269 2 года назад

    Perfect for Chicago roads

  • @PR-xh3nj
    @PR-xh3nj 3 года назад +1

    Needing to add lights or bags etc isn't a negative. Most bikes don't have those options out of the box.
    Good perspective though. I never thought about the ease of riding an e bike in the winter resulting in less energy/body heat.

  • @bicycles-as-far-as-im-aliv5725
    @bicycles-as-far-as-im-aliv5725 2 года назад +2

    You definitely need a fat bike & even a fat ebike in Saskatoon. This city would clear the roads for cars only but leave side walks & multi-use pathways full off snow & ice. Smh

  • @vincewhite5087
    @vincewhite5087 3 года назад +4

    Got a fat bike this year, and it’s huge extra work. Looking at getting ebike conversion kit.

    • @MyLifeInTheDesert
      @MyLifeInTheDesert 3 года назад

      I can imagine. I just look at those tires and know I’m not strong enough to make those work

  • @dark_winter8238
    @dark_winter8238 3 года назад

    You can get all.thos accessories for fat tire ebikes and turn down the assist to warm yourself up. Two potential negatives are it fitting on any public transit rack and aggressive seating style.

    • @karlInSanDiego
      @karlInSanDiego 3 года назад

      agreed, the extra weight and tire widths make this not bus rack compatible.

  • @dougrich1970
    @dougrich1970 2 года назад +1

    Great reviews and information also stick with what works for you nice 1 👍🏻✌🏻💯

  • @ELMS
    @ELMS 3 года назад +1

    Always such great videos. Terrific content, well produced. You definitely are a channel to watch!

  • @derekjolly3680
    @derekjolly3680 Год назад

    Fact is I had a Marin MTB bike for a few years, but it got far less, and diminishing use after I bought a Marin hybrid model. I might of seen it differently with winter riding, but in the past I've been shut down for biking over winters. The hybrid offered me more comparatively for speed, athletics, handling, and now utility use. Not that different for what you see for the advantages of your preferred style of city bikes. I've even gone and changed tires to Fincci 700x35c for both, where it's more of a gravel type tire compared to more of a dirt tire. With far less snow and ice here, (Arizona but at 5000 feet) I could be OK with those, but I have two used spares which I can change back to for the dirt tires if need be on that bike.

  • @chadmyles-theclevelandcyclist
    @chadmyles-theclevelandcyclist 18 дней назад

    You make a good point about the practicality of fat bikes. As much as I love riding mine and using it for commuting It only really works for me when I’m in no particular rush to get somewhere.
    The last fat bike that I owned wasn’t a typical fat bike because it rode more like a hybrid bike. I did not really experience the speed penalty you get with a typical fat bike. Unfortunately Giant no longer makes that bike so now I’m riding a more typical fat bike - the Salsa Mukluk.
    I still ride it more for commuting than my gravel bike mostly because of the dropper seat post. But, I recently installed a dropper post on my gravel bike making it more viable for everyday commuting.
    I know when I have to travel far for groceries and I’m purchasing items that tend to bruise during transport - like bananas and strawberries - I tend to favor the fat bike because it offers a much smoother ride than my gravel bike. Now that I finally managed to find a set of fat tires that doesn’t have the knobby treads and I went down from a five inch wide tire to a four inch wide tire I am getting better acceleration from the Mukluk and significantly less rolling resistance. The bike is a little bit more fun to ride because I can get a decent speed on the bike without putting in too much effort. It’s no road bike but it rides better than when I initially purchased the bike. I also noticed with the street treads on the tires the bike is quieter when I ride it.🤔🤔🤔

  • @turfnsurf9367
    @turfnsurf9367 2 года назад +1

    You can buy a cheap brand new 26"x4" tires bike for under $500. I ride motorcycle in the falls and heated gears are a must! However, I am concern sharing icy roads with vehicles.

  • @ftilos
    @ftilos 3 года назад +1

    I have a Swytch Pro ebike assist in my Brompton folding bike. You might want to check SWYTCH Pro Kit for your priority bike. I live in Calgary AB as well.

  • @officer_baitlyn
    @officer_baitlyn 2 года назад +1

    4:05 use less assistance or even start without assist to get up to temp

  • @Harry_16710
    @Harry_16710 3 года назад

    Great idea for a video - lots of prudence! 👍🏼🚴‍♂️

  • @kevinbrooks3913
    @kevinbrooks3913 3 года назад +1

    Used to cycle alot when younger. Now older with lots of old injuries keeping me driving. I think a E-Bike would be a great option to get me cycling again

    • @dronespace
      @dronespace 3 года назад

      ❤️

    • @Qossuth
      @Qossuth 3 года назад +1

      Indeed. Rode a lot in my 20s and 30s, then not for 30 years, now enjoying being back in the saddle. I still remember how effing annoying that hill was that was always there in the commute, or the feeling of pedaling into a strong headwind, but those days are essentially gone and now biking is nothing but goodness.

  • @andythousand345
    @andythousand345 3 года назад +1

    Great video as always!

  • @glennmartin6492
    @glennmartin6492 2 года назад +1

    Ah! So they DO make studded fat tires.
    You mention two things.
    It's harder to get up to speed -is this because the sponginess of the low pressure tires absorbs more of the enrgy you're pedaling out when it hits a bump or slope? Or is it the extra mass at the utside of the wheel that you have to spin up?
    It's more stable. - what do you mean by this? Harder to slide out from under you? Harder to tip because you have more mass in the tire spinning like a top? A wider tire surface engaging with the ground?
    I've been looking at one speed bikes with a pedal assist motor to act essentially as my gearing as the route warrants. I've seen a lot of talk about narrow studded tires for winter biking. Would a studded fat tire offer some advantages?

  • @boybumbatso1582
    @boybumbatso1582 Год назад

    Your town looks beautiful.

  • @judedunlop5295
    @judedunlop5295 3 года назад +4

    Did the e bike have mode settings?
    I converted an old Raleigh Aero to throttle assist ( front wheel drive) and I find if I'm not warm enough just use leg power till warm then back on the throttle, and repeat 😁

  • @johng1857
    @johng1857 2 года назад +1

    I’m in the market for an E bike to replace my winter bike and it’s kind of been a letdown to see that all the major companies do not include water damage in their warranties. How am I supposed to rely on a machine that the manufacturer won’t even stand behind for one year? Yes, as you mentioned rain and snow and salt causes corrosion, but it’s not like these things are made out of sugar, either. If anyone knows of a company whose warranty policy covers water damage, please let me know!

  • @wandarivers2333
    @wandarivers2333 2 года назад

    Makes cycling fun again!

  • @Nn-3
    @Nn-3 3 года назад

    Thanks for the helpful reviews

  • @mgkleym
    @mgkleym 3 года назад +4

    The other downside to ebikes should be pointed out more. It pushes your average speed up close to that of a motorcycle yet people still wear typical cycling gear. If you eat shit on an ebike doing 25 you are going to be much worse off then me in my armored and abrasion resistant motorcycle gear and full face helmet. Not saying it's practical to ride a bike in that stuff but it seems like most people don't even consider the injury risk higher speeds on a bike present.

  • @anatoliypidlubnyy7656
    @anatoliypidlubnyy7656 3 года назад +2

    I have two issues with e-bikes: the cost and inability to maintain the electrical components myself. I own a cross ebike with a Bosch motor. Love the bike but the motor is a black box. I can't take it apart, no parts are available the batteries are proprietary and very expensive. If the motor fails I'll be looking at an expensive repair or replacement. Since the frame is built for a specific motor it might not be compatible with the newer motor models. Effectively, if anything happens to the motor - the bike is throwaway.

  • @chrisconnors7418
    @chrisconnors7418 Год назад

    When I switch to riding my fat bike (not electric) in the winter, I feel terribly out of shape. I’m drenched in sweat after five km. I want to sell the bike. After a couple of months though it’s much better and I can ride along streams and across lakes and on snowmobile tracks for 2-3 hrs and enjoy the experience. When I switch back to a thin tired bike in the spring it feels nearly effortless riding up hills. This year I’m going to ride the fat bike once or twice a week during the summer to maintain a higher level of endurance and strength, so maybe when winter comes back I won’t feel like dying on short rides.

  • @RB01138
    @RB01138 Год назад

    The Voltbike Yukon has lights, fenders, & a rack for 2K.

  • @clownworld3107
    @clownworld3107 3 года назад

    If you rise the handlebars a little bit higher then it will help you to prevent sore wrist and will be more comfortable. Don't leave your ebike battery outside in the winter, goodness will damage your battery. The same with sun light in hot summer. You can get a beautiful and more powerful Chinese fat tire ebike for 14$ USD. Himiway Cruiser and Majicity fat tire ebikes are amazing but they are a little bit expensive.

  • @CyclingSteve
    @CyclingSteve 3 года назад +28

    Add too noisy to the list, I like that I can hear what's going on around me.

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  3 года назад +7

      I share this concern!

    • @jamesjohnson1522
      @jamesjohnson1522 3 года назад +8

      It's not that loud....on my winter commute I actually play music on a Bluetooth speaker, and even with fat studded tires, I can still hear everything around me.

    • @MrDkgio
      @MrDkgio 2 года назад +1

      I use a Engwe engine pro 750watt for commuting (all journeys, I have not bothered with a car at all for 15 months, next week will be the first time I hire a car for the day to do an accounting job that’s 90 mile round trip) the engine pro only cost me £1,260 ($1,500) comes with lights including brake lights, sturdy rack, fenders, As for missing the self generated heat, you can just set it to a lower assist level or just dress appropriately for riding with less effort, a solid bike stand means you don’t have to worry about fitting wheel into the bike rack, just lock it to the rack.
      100% wouldn’t have a non Ebike fat tyre, but with power it opens up a lot more commuting and getting around routes, off road, gravel paths, across the park, previous Ebike was a mountain eBike honestly it was nowhere near as versatile as the fat tyre bike.
      $6,000 fat tyre? Definitely would not spend that much, ridiculous price, but there are many fat tyre eBikes, some cost less than $1,000

    • @julianshepherd2038
      @julianshepherd2038 2 года назад +7

      To be silent on frozen snow, you need to float.

    • @Dragon-Slay3r
      @Dragon-Slay3r Год назад

      @@julianshepherd2038 give it to the shark God forbid they sink

  • @doriandouma
    @doriandouma 2 года назад +2

    I always wonder about the drivetrains on those... does it have the high gears you need to do 30kph without pumping the cranks super fast? And like you said, it doesn't take much effort to maintain that speed, but on eco mode does it give you just a bit of a boost, allowing you to power it mostly yourself or what?

  • @PeterSdrolias
    @PeterSdrolias 2 года назад

    Living in Winnipeg, I would definitely meed the power assist when the commute to work is 25k...one way😭

  • @doogiedoesyoutubable
    @doogiedoesyoutubable Год назад

    You made some good points.
    Thanks

  • @derykmacleod4979
    @derykmacleod4979 3 года назад

    I think my next build will be a fat tire ebike. My current is a mountain bike , but I can see riding on gravel and sand that a fat tire gives you a better gripping surface. How fast were you traveling and how far? I try to go out for winter rides with the hightech longjohns and all to stay warm....not as much fun till spring rolls around.

  • @tconnolly9820
    @tconnolly9820 2 года назад +1

    If all of the salt on your city streets will corrode a fat bike like that a year or two, what the hell does it do to a brand new car that costs multiples of a premium bike like that?!?!
    Although, beautiful machine!
    With the electric motor, it would be a very pleasant commuter' summer or winter.
    I'm in Ireland and I think it must be 12 years ago since we had any kind of substantial snow that turned the country white. Hopefully it'll be another 12 more at least. Let's just say every year I'm dreaming of a green Christmas.
    Usually only get a real snow about every decade on average.
    It's been a very mild winter this year with barely half a dozen icy morning's on the roads. My 40mm tyres on my hybrid bike are fine all year round.

  • @0hypnotoad0
    @0hypnotoad0 2 года назад

    There's some good affordable e-bikes out there in the $1500-$2500 range. NCM and E.T. Cycle come to mind having fat tire options for less than $2000, I think if you take care with tune-ups and rust prevention maintenance they'd make for good snow-crushers.

  • @vincewhite5087
    @vincewhite5087 3 года назад +1

    Also studded tires.

  • @sumalsebastian
    @sumalsebastian 2 года назад

    is studded tires necessary for winter biking? even if it is regular mountain bike? you showed using skinny tires in snow. are you using studded tires? if not how it is not slipping in snow? what is the safe speed limit to follow when riding on snowy road?

  • @Nickles4
    @Nickles4 Год назад

    So snow isn’t an issue for electric bikes if you maintain cleaning after riding. Looking at getting a 750w fat tire e-bike for my commute to work and water/snow has been my main concern. I don’t want a skinny tire bike because good god the amount of potential flats is scary lol

  • @philprice6242
    @philprice6242 3 года назад +2

    We got the iGO Extreme 2.0 from Costco. Comes standard with a bike rack and fenders, and it's been a godsend for commuting in the winter! (not sponsored by the way :P). Oh! And it was only $2000 Canadian.

  • @vincewhite5087
    @vincewhite5087 3 года назад +7

    Turn down assist to where you get the right combination.

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  3 года назад +3

      This is a valid point.

    • @stuarthirsch
      @stuarthirsch 3 года назад

      @@Shifter_Cycling I have a Fuji e-traverse. Great e-bike for almost any type of riding. It is a class 1 e-bike. I have found it is best to always set it to full power and use the gears to control speed and power. For city commutes and just for fun riding I have a 30 year Fuji Supreme 18 speed with rim brakes. Rugged lugged steel frame and comfortable antler handlebars. Has an rear wheel generator/alternator for lights No need to worry about batteries.. If I were to modify it for daily commutes I would go to belt drive, make it single speed, and add fenders and rack and install a more comfortable seat. I would need to modify the lights to LEDs and add some electronics for regulated DC power for lights and phone charging. However the bike I miss the most was the one I had as a kid. A Raleigh "English Racer", really made in England. It looked the part as well. It had a 3 speed "stermy archer" internal hub gearing. Don't know what ever happened to it but wish I still had it. Got it when I was 13,14, or 15 years old and would still ride it at 70.

  • @staver76
    @staver76 Год назад

    Curious to what you think about the northrock XCF/XC00 and a cheaper electric motor conversion - all in less than 2k - do you think that'd be worthwhile for a dedicated winter commuter?

  • @tragkfshnt
    @tragkfshnt 23 дня назад

    I have a fat wheel electric bike with dual motors, so I can’t wait for it to snow and ride my e bike on snow, so father winter bring on the snow I’m ready for you.

  • @definitelynotacrab7651
    @definitelynotacrab7651 Год назад

    I definitely would he nervous leaving a 6k bike around, that's more expensive than some cars and could be a tempting target.

  • @DaleStrickland
    @DaleStrickland 3 года назад

    Great video! I'm currently considering a fat tire ebike for winter commuting. I've done winter commutes on both a hybrid bike with average tires and another bike with slightly larger tires. I'm definitely planning to get an ebike for winter, the fat tires feel like a way to have reliable transport in all weather conditions.

  • @massoud999
    @massoud999 3 года назад

    That's what we call problems of rich people.
    We here don't have snow at all.
    I liked the unbiased review.

  • @alexis7386
    @alexis7386 3 года назад

    How do you ride in the snow? The bike you normally ride has tires that don’t look like they are meant for the snow.

  • @GreenStrokeHillbilly
    @GreenStrokeHillbilly 2 года назад

    Hey love the video, still have some questions because I'm looking for a E bike for myself, live in Western NY so I need something durable for the ice/snow on the shoulder of the road in early mornings. But yet still be reliable for the easy summer/springs. Respond if ya see this please 🙏 would really appreciate your insight

  • @whatsthestoryborrey5665
    @whatsthestoryborrey5665 3 года назад

    Nice Channel Just recently got a RadRunner from rad power bikes... I think it answers a lot of your comments here.

  • @jiw71
    @jiw71 2 года назад

    other than the mid drive motor & battery the components are the same as a conventional bike.............and both are well-protected against the elements. I ride year round and have 16,500 kms on my e-bike (since 2019). I haven't had any additional issues on this bike as I have had on my other conventional bikes. But the probable theft issue is a great reason for not commuting with my e-bike

    • @JamesMorton-p9k
      @JamesMorton-p9k Месяц назад

      What bike you riding these days in winter?

    • @jiw71
      @jiw71 Месяц назад

      @@JamesMorton-p9k 2019 Motobecane HAL eBoost PRO (i now have 21,600 kms on the bike.........original motor & battery)

    • @JamesMorton-p9k
      @JamesMorton-p9k Месяц назад

      @ thanks for the reply! These bikes look really good actually...hasn't heard of them before!

  • @vitormlb1199
    @vitormlb1199 3 года назад +1

    Honestly, for people under extreme conditions like snow, heavy mug, sand and etc I can understand adoption of fat bikes (and must be honest: seeing you at the end on ice with a 38cc or thinner tire made me think if fat bikes are not a must in these conditions). But, unless you have balancing issues, I don't see any sense on people using these. Here in Sao Paulo(BR) I see LOT of people purchasing those for urban cycling on bright sunny days in well paved streets.

  • @moofymoo
    @moofymoo 3 года назад +1

    4:52 - what!?
    that's about half from new Dacia Sandero. or think this way - pick either 2 commuter bicycles or 1 commuter car.

  • @jonathanmichael915
    @jonathanmichael915 Год назад

    May I ask what the coldest temp is that you've run an ebike in? Do they work below zero?

  • @rdkuless
    @rdkuless 3 года назад

    It is really hard on Ebike Batteries because Lithium-ion don't like to freeze.. You definitely should never charge a frozen battery, wait until it comes to room temperature before charging. Your range will definitely drop in cold weather. So unless you have a warm place to bring the bike in for storage and charging it's not really a good idea. Batteries run between $260 and $1200. Charging a frozen battery can cause it to malfunction or completely fail. Expensive lesson..

  • @bobdinsmore482
    @bobdinsmore482 3 года назад +1

    Time to rethink fat wheel Lectric eBike. It’s on sale now$50 off, now $949 plus upgrade light soft seat with shock absorber seat post and solid bike lock. Grab it while you can for Black Friday special! I just bought one a week ago and I feel guilty because I’m falling in love with it and I feel like I’m cheating on my wife.

    • @tconnolly9820
      @tconnolly9820 2 года назад +1

      Go on, admit it....
      You work for Lectric!

    • @bobdinsmore482
      @bobdinsmore482 2 года назад +1

      Don’t work for Lectric, I’m retired and riding my bike everyday.

  • @japanham5973
    @japanham5973 6 месяцев назад +1

    Shifter, please visit this review from the beginning to the end and see if you really made a fair and balanced review of "fat tire e bikes"....not just the complaints you have with the bike you rented. I think a new fresh review would benefit your viewers.... What is wrong with putting on the rear bike rack that you want, the light you want, and .....if you don't want to go so fast that you can "warm up".....slow down (choose a lower level of assist and stop peddling so fast)... The $6K cost is absolutely on the very high side of the cost range....many, many more reasonably priced, if you take the time to check.

  • @RichardsGaySon
    @RichardsGaySon 2 года назад

    My only complaint with my ebike is it’s too cold in the winter. Especially when riding fast

  • @stuarthirsch
    @stuarthirsch 3 года назад

    E-bike or not the only uses I can see for a fat tire bike is in the snow on trails, on the beach, or as a dune bike in the desert.

  • @siopaomaster
    @siopaomaster 2 года назад

    how about urban commute during other seasons? Is e-fatbike practical?

  • @jspate61
    @jspate61 2 года назад

    Lots of food for thought. I'm in Montreal thinking of buying a first e-hauler like the rad wagon 4. We have the infrastructure, but is it doable: using an e bike for everyday tasks, Let me know what you think. Cheers from Montreal QC

  • @mohammadfarhad5488
    @mohammadfarhad5488 2 месяца назад

    Can i bike on pure ice? I live in norway and roads are hidden with ice beneath snow

  • @omaralgorani8730
    @omaralgorani8730 2 года назад

    all love to you from Iraq💖💖

  • @AdamoomadA
    @AdamoomadA Год назад

    Good content!

  • @acchaladka
    @acchaladka 3 года назад

    So now that it's almost winter here in the Canada again... Will you do a winter commuting e-bike list?

  • @jrsixowfour8674
    @jrsixowfour8674 2 года назад

    Was this filmed in whitehorse yukon? Hillcrest

  • @mcgraw2967
    @mcgraw2967 3 года назад

    Is that right 🤔

  • @ErikDOne-pe6lq
    @ErikDOne-pe6lq Год назад

    I am trying to get an ebike to commute to work, but i an worry about leaving it outside in the cold, any recommendations?

  • @jamesnewsom5899
    @jamesnewsom5899 2 года назад

    Get a Magicycle Cruiser Pro. $1899. Fat tires, fenders, racks, and add paniers

  • @francesbernard2445
    @francesbernard2445 Год назад

    Well at least I would never have to experience noticing that the passenger door is not closed while the vehicle has already started to move away from the curb again.

  • @sifi7950
    @sifi7950 3 года назад +1

    Are those 700c wheels in your Priority Tom? Also, what type of CBT hub does your Priority have? It looks quite similar to my Lekker Amsterdam (Enviolo NuVinci 330 hub), however my bike has 650b wheels. Keep up the great content!

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  3 года назад +1

      You have a good eye - correct on both counts!

  • @vincewhite5087
    @vincewhite5087 3 года назад

    My Cmc fat bike was $325.00, I will watch for studded tires cheap, and put ebike kit on it.