Are CD players still relevant
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- Опубликовано: 21 июн 2019
- With the advent and popularization of streaming music services and cloud based libraries, is there any reason to own a CD player? And check out our newest RUclips channel / @octaverecordsanddsdst... Octave Records.
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Bought 253 CD's the past year alone, will continue forever. CD's are here to stay!
My hero! ♥
Why so many? I can only really listen to about 1 album per week.
I'm closing in on 200 music cds and I actually play all of them regularly. Unlike some people who only collect them. That's the difference between us real music lovers and the pretenders.
Robert Thompson - Agree!
I want to score a vintage Pioneer CD player to go with my vintage pioneer audio equipment.
CD's and Blu-ray or anything that doesn't require internet for me is the best,my taste.
Movies on my iPad don’t need internet to play
@@calidude1114 And I don't need an internet connection to play music that is on my iPod either 🙄
Yep, I'm in the physical media boat also! Wouldn't be without it!!👍
Yes, something they can't keep making you pay for!
Anything that is a physical media or a wired connection beats out streaming and over the air connection
Streaming can't give you that same feeling that you get when buying a new CD or finding some great CD's for cheap on a flea market. I still enjoy my CD's on a late 90's B&O.
Totally agree!
Agreed!
CD's are poor man's vinyl)
@@lonegalaxy311 hater, CD's are the best call me poor then cause i own a lot of CD's and still collecting
Love the hunt. 😎
Streaming is great for discovering new music. And if I like it enough, I'm going to own it on CD. I recently did an A-B comparison of Tidal's "Master Quality" versus the CD. CD blew it out of the water.
How did you compare? Did you use a CD Player hooked up to the same DAC that you were streaming on? Or did you use a DAC at all? A CD Player with analog output?
@@h.k.203 I tried same mastered version, on Qobuz, same dac (smsl su-9) and my cd transport (cambridge cxc). The cd is just way better.
@@Biefstukje one question, how are you satisfied with the cxc transport, because the dealer did not recommend it to me, he advised me to buy a cd player with a digital output ... he says that there is no significant difference
@@gogo-fk1lu he is probably right. No significant difference I think. I like my cxc and recommend it. I got a dedicated dac so I only need transport. Why buy a player that does more? Maybe best thing for you is to a-b test it at your dealer. I paid 350 Euros for my cxc occasion at my local dealer, although it looked brand new. I only compared it to qobuz steaming, the cxc is better.
@@h.k.203 My receiver has its own DAC, I did a back and forth from my CD player from my streaming device, now granted my streaming device is not the most expensive. However, its going through the same DAC. I think the CD definitely was better.
Cds are cheap to buy now, plus there is a huge catalogue. And they sound fantastic.
Agreed. I usually can get a CD for far less than the downloaded version.
Not for long, think the idea is they make physical media a nich product such as vinyl. CD prices have tripled in my country due to demand outstripping supply and factories shutting down. Due to poor internet issues, streaming seems to be more of wishfull thinking than anything else.
I have bought tons of used CDs on Amazon for $1. Another upside of "perfect sound forever."
Dave G they sure are. They are very relevant to me that's for sure.
Streaming gives CD quality or better for the price of one to two CDs per month, with millions CDs available. And the CDs can be ripped to a hdd and played back without needing to find a physical disk each time you will play the CDs. All my CDs are in boxes which haven't been opened for ten years. the music is on my PC in apple lossless format. using iTunes for playing them back.
CD players are relevant to anyone who uses them --- me, for example.
Turntables, too, because I still play records.
I have thousands of music CDs, which I have been buying since 1983, and they still play just fine with no degradation.
Do CDs not have a 20 year lifetime after which they must be replaced/copied?
@@RedKnight-fn6jr Only homemade CDs should be copied every 20 years or less, including computer data or music. Especially those burned onto rewritable Cds should all be copied over. Factory pressed Cds are expected to have lifetimes of at least 100 years and those made out of exotic material, like gold, could last even longer. I now have more than 1300 Cds and everyone still has the same quality as it did the day I bought it. The manufacturers also say that if your factory Cd came with loose paper inserted into the jacket (not the liner notes), remove the paper and throw it away cause it could affect the CD.
They will degrade if you put them in those stupid portable sleeve storage cases. I learned that the hard expensive way. The top layer would flake off over time and would not be noticeable until held up to the light or played. Now all the replacement CDs never leave the house and stay in the jeweled cases.
@@sylkelster Ummm, what portable sleeve storage cases are you talking about?! Please don't leave us hanging!
@@alexkx8599 Case Logic or other brands of CD notebooks that can store up to a hundred or more CDs without the jewel cases. The CDs are stored in sleeve pockets. Problem is the CDs are held in the pockets by friction and over time after being removed many times will destroy the data layer (the top side of CD). Any dirt, sand, or dust accumulation will accelerate the damage rather quickly. Every CD I had ever stored this way eventually became unplayable. It may take years, but it WILL happen. Most modern music has an expiration date so this issue is irrevelant to most people. Some music is timeless and requires appropriate long term care. Hope that clears it up for you :/
The ceiling was reached with CD quality sound. The jury has been in and there's no proof that the analog sound wave is any fuller than a 24bit digital wave. That and it really doesn't degrade. CD sound is fantastic.
Damn SKIPPY.
cd is 16 bit. i agree though - cd sounds great and is absolutely superior to vinyl from an audio perspective.
Audio CD is 16 bit (not 24) ,44.1Khz Quality,and it is not REAL sine wave-it is "square made/imitate sinewave",so do a little reaserch,I am a Professional STUDIO ,Mastering sound engineer. The topic is more complexe than "is it CD god ao obsolete or whatewer"....I am 45,and I am working with Audio for allmost 30 Yrs. And-"that's all I have to say about it"-Forest Gump,no,i don't mix music like him :) Fun Fact-DAT (Digital Audio Tape,is allso 16 Bit rate ,But 48 Khz quality-BETTER that CD,and it sound's "wormer" since the sine wave is more realisticv that CD's Square-to-sine" ,DAT AD-DA converter's are best-we still use it in pro studios and DAW.
CDs 💿 are Rainbow book 44.1Khz 16bit PCM.
A well recorded CD played back on good equipment sounds fantastic. I will never be without a CD player!
Agreed, a well recorded CD is magical.
Some Cd's still sound better than many vinyls, fact.
These late years i've been very deceived by the quality of some vinyls, really..
What in the Heck is Vinyls? Please what you are talking about are records- they come out n different sizes .
Well, technically CD is the superior medium, capable of more dynamic range and cleaner sound. The only reason so many CDs sound worse than vinyl counterparts is because the mastering process for CD actually allows for loudness wars "brickwalling" (compressing and clipping the music because it's mastered too loud) and labels are demanding that engineers do this crap.
You can't do that to nearly the same degree with vinyl, so they're kinda "forced" to do a decent job somewhat. Plus it's an entirely different target market buying vinyls.
Someone once said: the worst vinyl will probably sound better than the worst CD, but the best CD definitely sounds better than even the best vinyl.
@@keithgilliard9191 It's short for vinyl record. Either term by itself is fine.
It has been proven 40 years ago that CD sound much better than records. The recent vinyl record craze is mostly a trend.
Linn have been advertising end of CD players since 2009. 10 years after CD isn't dead and nothing indicates its fast death. I still use high quality CD player. I dont need files and streaming. I have 400+ cds , originals not cdr
Hell yeah
I still use a Linn CD player, two of them in fact! The one in my main system does get less use thought would the presence of a DS streamer.
Similar, two Arcams feeding Linn amp and speakers, around 500 CD's, actually enjoy listening to my CD's more than any of the vinyl or digital files I own.
One Hope's for a special section in Hell for MOST if not all Armed Forces recruiters. Love the tidbits from the book!
I still use cassettes.
44.1k/16 is a fantastic standard for music. It's plenty good enough , without being ludicrous. The only problem with CD's is the same problem we have with any digital music - it is mastered by crazy persons who hate dynamic range. I mean, sure, out of control dynamic range is hard to listen to, but compressing everything out of the music is just nuts. Especially as you can always dynamically compress it when listening, but you can never uncompress it.
Clearly you are talking about "remastered" cds of albums from the 80's or 90's because those are the ones that are compressed to death and the dynamic range suffers. I would expect any album of any genre from the 80's and 90's to sound best as original releases keeping dynamic range in tact and compression extremely low if even used
@@kennyg.6608 Thats wrong. For the first couple of years when the CD existed, the "loudness war" had not started, but from the end of the 80s there had been a trend to louder mastering of CDs. Not all of them have been, because it did depend on the person who mastered them. Also, remasterd Albums are not generally worse or better.
most of engineers are crazy high on drugs during mixing
So true
@@kennyg.6608 not always
You will have to pry my CD players (including one from 1985 purchased for $400.00) from my cold dead fingers.
Swinde me to. Pepe are dumb and and like sheep just because some say there dead it doesn’t make it so like you I have a very expensive CD player recorder and ime going to be buried with it, if you love music buy a physical format that’s yours for as long as you want it. Not to loos it wen your computer dyes ore the internet’s down ( fools )
Ian Yates, Amen!
Adjusted for inflation My CD player which is a Sony CDP-302 would cost $952.00 in today's money. This deck is just a source for a high fidelity preamp. Currently the player decks used in computers that even include Blu-Ray are about $40.00. Mine however is quality made including a linear motor for track selection rather than gears. It even plays CDRs even though they were not available at the time I purchased it.
Swinde your cd is on a slimmer in value to mine my cds are bough pioneers one with the stable plater the other one is a 3disc multi player with a septet one for record plus my sonny minidisc recorder running through a hi-end dac into my kt88 valve amp with q acoustics tower speakers. And a pair of Yamaha subs. But my pride and joy is my rotel direct drive turntable with a sme tone arm and gold ring e3 mm cartridge witch I only tried out today prior to that I was using a ortofon m2red. Long live cds 🎶👍
When CD players were first available they were priced at 800-1000 dollars in early 80s money.
I feel the same way about CDs and Blu-Rays. I want a hard copy of the performance, not an online source or listen/watch on a phone (Gag!)
I still use cassettes, CD's, vinyl, minidisc and 8 track tapes along with streaming.
I don't use 8 track or streaming but do use the other things mentioned
I use all that along with reel to reel, SACD, DVD, Blu-ray, VHS and DAT. What I rarely use is a CD player, though. In my bedroom I play CDs on either a DVD or LaserDisc player; there’s no CD player in that system. My living room system does have a 100 CD changer, but discs not inside it I either play on a Blu-ray or LaserDisc player.
Your sarcasm is on point! 😆
Minidisc is the winner
I'm still buying CD's & LP's, I'm not interested in streaming music, I like looking forward to buying a few cd's or LP's a month, I like physical media, great topic, cheers
I lived through all the pops and clicks and warped vinyl disks and I refuse to go back to those problems again. Keep me digital! The only thing worse than vinyl was 8 -track. I use to buy a brand new 8-track from the record store and put it in the car 8-track player. Many times the 8-track would unwind into the player until all the tape ran off the spool.
if you don"t have a digital file saved in 3 places, it"s not yours permanently
also, nothing in a digital download can replace the look and feel of a nice cover, album artwork and cd print
@@jameskoralewski296 You should have kept your heads clean. 😁
@@bigelile07 Should have kept what heads clean. I used discwasher and antistatic devices but records still get filthy and are wearing out the grooves each time you play it, not to mention the disc warping. They use to make a laser Phonograph that never physically touched a record to play it. The laser read the depths and width of a groove and sent that info to the preamp then amp.
@@jameskoralewski296 I was talking about your 8-track players.
More relevant than ever!!! Because the Audio CD is the only commercial digital format not DRM encumbered. IMHO CDs are the only honest, reasonable and fair way to buy digital music. Thanks God they still exist.
Another thing to consider is that many areas still do not have broadband. If someone that lives in the boonies wants music, d/l over dialup or sat is unacceptable. Good, fast cellular connections aren't always plentiful....
But I can store 50000 mp3s on my iPhone which fits in my pocket
@@calidude1114 Audiophiles don't consider MP3 files as "music". Too much musical info is missing. One can't hear what's not in the file.
@ NETnews. In your opinion, do DRM schemes alone prevent you from streaming?
@@calidude1114And a pair of EarPods for a truly mind-blowing experience?
CDs are here to stay in my opinion. I still buy CDs and they have such great quality.
One thing that will keep them around for a long while like vinyl etc is the existence of a secondhand market. I have yet to see a secondhand market for digital audio files. Lol I mean we still buy books! I still have a library down the road!
I buy about 50 CD’s a year on average. I stream on Tidal, but when I hear a keeper I buy it on CD.
Julia Set ... true true!
I discover a lot of music on RUclips and tidal but,When I do I wish that I had it on Cds.
Yes is there a way to copy you tube music and burn it onto cd ? Please help anyone with info greatly appreciate.
@@jodybanks5344 Download "RUclips converter " software on your laptop. Copy (right click on the url) the song playing and paste it into the convert window and download the file .
0:45 The death of vinyl had nothing to do with consumers. It was a decision by the major record labels to quit selling records because they could make CDs for less than records and sell them at a higher price than records. The decline in CDs, on the other hand, is driven by consumers not buying them rather than the manufacturers not selling them.
I remember the selection for records was amazing and CDs had a very limited selection in the early 80's. Gradually as consumers bought into cd's and stopped buying records the cd selection became larger and records faded away. There was no market conspiracy. Most non audiophiles found records to be a chore to play. Consumers chose the better performing , and easier to play format of the cd. I say better performing based on cost. A good turntable ,good tone arm, very expensive cartridge and phono preamp is needed to compete with a mediocre CD player with a decent dac. A cheap turntable system sounds terrible. Once again consumers are choosing convenience by switching to streaming over cd's. Audiophiles will continue to use cd's for some time. CD players are no longer installed in cars and that has been a large part of the cd market decline.
I remember hearing a cd for the first time at a friend's and the sound was so much better than records or tapes. Within a week I'd got a cd player. I never bought a vinyl record ever again. The death of vinyl was also consumer lead.
The reason I've started buying CDs again is because if you like non mainstream music it often gets deleted from streaming services. My CDs are a hardcopy back up and the beauty of CDs is you can still rip them and listen on your phone as well as playing the physical disc. I'd never go back to vinyl or tape though.
Spot on Paul: last year i gave myself a Marantz SA-14S1 as a birthday present. Along with a turntable and fully active speakers i have all i need to enjoy a collection that covers 50 years. Great music and the memories of our lives - relevant indeed.
I've been collecting CDs since 2011, have a little over 1,000 in my bedroom. Owning digital files doesn't cut it for me, I love owning physical media!
If you're looking for very obscure stuff, chances are you won't find it at Spotify or any music streaming service. That's where CD still has a small niche, even though it's irrelevant if all you listen to is popular music.
I was mad when they had the whole Tekken collection on Spotify and they pulled it. Game and anime stuff is especially rare on streaming platforms that I’ve gone back to CDs, I picked up an old Sony player from their golden era in the 80s and it’s DAC sounds more wonderful & musical than a lot of the modern stuff.
My 1988 Technics SL-P350 is a fantastic piece of equipment and nobody will separate me and that thing.
Believe it or not, i had the same player.
@@kirkcunningham6146 I got this one second hand about 6 months ago, snag is it got dropped during shipping so the VFD doesn't work anymore, but it sounds so damn good that I use it anyway!
@@ArlenMoulton2 awesome that player was my first one. Bought it at the military BX when i was stationed overseas along with a pair of wharfedale diamond threes. Miss that good ole stuff.
@@kirkcunningham6146 My speakers have always been old B&W DM601s, I started with the S2 version of them but was given a pair of the original 601s and they sounded a hell of a lot better and I still run them, have been for about 6 months now, never heard better.
@@ArlenMoulton2 yes, those are very popular among the brand and have great reviews. Very good speakers. I always liked the yellow Kevlar drivers. I ended up going big and recently bought the JBL Studio 590. If you love horns, these things are amazing. Im having loads of fun right now with those monsters.
Are you joking? For a real Hifi Listener and pure music Lover, CDs are superior to all streaming. Plus i get the Artwork, the Lyrics and information of the makers and making of an Album. CDs and Vinyl forever!
Yes and no CD quality is fantastic but it's better to rip them and put them somewhere safe. Use your FLAC files to enjoy your music wherever you want to.
Cds are irrelevant because they are not as good as vynil and they are inconvenient to store and handle like them. Yet they dont really sound better than hi_res files. And the man speaking above is nit the right persin to ask an advice. He produce cd players or is one of them. Buy a great dac and buy Hi-res audio files and your done.
Agreed... I use Tidal to "discover" Stuffs I don't knew... Even the famous MQA sure is better than FLAC but stays for my taste way under à CD... To each their ears 😉
I wonder why all you guys only know streaming? didn't use streaming in my whole life but didn't touch a CD more then once for rip it since 1999
CDs are not better to "all steaming", many streaming services offer 16/44 FLACs which is in fact CD quality and some offer 24/44 or better (non MQA, long story short MQA uses an algorithm that modifies the music in ways the artist never intended and of top of that is lossy), so yeah CDs are not better than every streaming service, oh and you can download DRM free music from such services..
I love CDs and vinyl records. Streaming is convenient when I need it, but CDs and vinyl records always have a special place in my heart
Streaming sucks. I want the physical product. The artwork on the album or cd. The fun of going out and buying the latest release from your favorite artist.
EXACTLY
Great video Paul. My Yamaha CD-S300 is still relevant in my system. So is my SACD player.
Hi Paul, as always thanks for the videos. As a person with a large cd collection, I have ripped all of them to flac and have them on my home Plex server. You still need a computer with a cd drive. There is always something to be said to picking out a cd from your collection, browsing the liner notes while you listen, much like with vinyl. The other upside of physical cd's is the implementation of gapless playback, which is still an issue with many streaming options.
Oh my God Paul, Blu-ray surround sound is 1000 times better than the stream services
yeah it boggles my mind his comments on movie streaming
He lost all credibility as an expert on sound quality right there with me.
The problem with streaming services is that the content is never guaranteed to be there in the future. Services like Spotify, Tidal, Qobuz, Netflix, hulu, RUclips. Any one of these services could be sold, bankrupt, monopoly broke up, scandals. Who knows and when it's gone so will your music or playlist. I'm sure many have playlist now that have mysteriously missing videos and RUclips won't even tell you the title of the video. When these things change one thing will not. A physical copy you posses will always be there can be ripped or re ripped with new technologies. A physical copy is the best bet for future enjoyment, services on the internet aren't forever.
And it all depends on your high speed internet connection, which could be out of service on any given day due to damage, or repairs, or whatever. It is rare that our internet is ever down these days, but back a few years ago, it wasn’t uncommon at all to suffer a day or two of outage. We had a minor storm due to a hurricane last year that knocked it Out for a week! I ran my generator, and played my CD’s, no problem.
Plus, if something really bad happens to your computer and then your songs could disappear, too. With your our own 'Cd, you can always get back to where you were.
@@jameskoralewski296 Well at least that's something you can control, always have a backup copy of your stuff, on sale you can get a 8TB external hard drive for $130 if you watch for it. Backup your music collection once every few months and put it in your fireproof safe or buy two and cycle them at a friend or family's house.
@@freezerburn6454 Hard drives fail, too. Both from hardware problems and software problems.
@@jameskoralewski296 That's why I said to get an external hard drive and backup. That's something you can do for not too much money. so when your drive dies you can restore from your second external hard drive. It's extremely unlikely that two different model drives will die at the same time. Backup is unplugged and stored away so if your machine for instance gets Ransomeware. You have a second copy of your music files.
My Linn CD player, Rega TT and my Bang & Olufsen are still in commission. I love physical media. No guarantees on streaming services.
I have only 10 CDs. But have loads of cassette tapes, reel to reel tapes, LPs and 78rpm records.
Amiga A1200
Love 78rpm records
Great info and just subscribed to your channel.
I use a denon CD player with onkyo amp and it’s fine
I still have two Pioneer CDJ-1000MK3 CD players that I bought back in 2008. Although I can't remember the last time I used them or a CD. I've been using USB sticks in my car instead of CDs.
More than enough...👍
Denons are awesome!
LP's force you to be active and CAREFUL : change sites, clean records and needles, put the record in the anti-static sleeve, carefully lower the needle etc. It is some kind of ritual :) thereby honoring the musician and the music.
And, because you can't skip parts of music, you have to listen to the whole piece, and maybe learn to appreciate the part.
CD's.... well, you have to be less careful: thanks to error correction getting stronger each time.
But you still have to be active to change the CD, thus some kind of ritual is preserved.
All this is made redundant using streaming, thereby losing the Ritual, the forced moment of thoughtfulness. Streaming is volatile, superficial, nice for background music.
So: no streaming etc. for me.
And, the most important thing, sound quality is way better on CD than on anything else, especially records.
ritual is all great, but many times I like to play one artist then go to someone else with no dicking around.
@@deletedaccount966 False.
@@bkkersey93 Absolutely true actually
I have a questions. I have a huge collection of Music CDs that I rip into flac format that I play on my PC using Emotiva TA-100 DAC paired with Klipsch RP-600 and an SVS SB-1000. My question is would I notice a big difference in sound if I bought say a CD transport and listened to it off the CD? I am considering. Any info I would much appreciate it.
Always a pleasure, glad you read from your new book makes me want it all the more..
Decent CD players can be had for dirt cheap these days and thrift stores are full of used CDs - CD is the ultimate budget hifi source.
streaming is basically free, having millions of albums and you can connect your phone/pc/laptop to every amp and good to go
For discriminating classical music audiophiles like myself, CDs and SACDs are still the way to go, as many versions of the classics are not available for streaming, and you cannot easily rip SACDs as you can CDs.
I own an Oppo 105D player connected to a home theater system and a high-end headphone amp.
I have a sony walkman hi res player that plays DSD files, and I own an eMotiva power amp, and eMotiva pre-amp, their bas X series, how would I connect my sony player that plays DSD files so that I could benefit from the DSD files?
Hi! I have this Turntable AT LP 120XUSB as well as Powered Speakers Edifier S1000 MK II and now I just need to listen to my CDs, I am thinking of purchasing the Yamaha CD Player S303 and I don't wanna spend more money in other devices, so is it worth using my active speakers with this CD Player and its DAC?
I don't stream ... I Scream
In my 31 years of being an audiophile CD/SACD is still king in sound quality espically with a good DAC to much compression on digital files you lose the liveliness in the recording and you get recordings that are top and influenced for phones and Bluetooth speakers lol But the master tape is still The holy grail John Darko said it best !
What are you talking about? CD is digital?
Also Darko spreads so much misinformation he has to disable comments so he doesn’t get called out.
jesus christ there is no compression on a FLAC - the L is for LOSLESS
i use streaming only to find new bands. and when i find something really good, i buy cds or vinyl to support the artists and to be able to play anyway i want. remember: streaming is renting. and i have 30 year old cds that haven't downgraded a bit.
Thank you!!! I just bought another Onkyo single disc player. Just learned my local Best Buy (hate Best Buy) sells an Onkyo 5 disc CD player. So I’m going to get that ASAP.
CDs are great! A lossless physical media format, easily copied to computer, large enough for artwork, and people are practically giving them away!
NOT lossless unless studio recording is made in 16-bit resolution. And none of them are any more. Only in the 1980s so that's more than 30 years ago.
@@raffiequler7510 I meant lossless in that it's a raw uncompresdef PCM stream. 16 Vs 24 bit doesn't matter to my ear. I can't hear the difference.
@@vext01 The problem is it is never lossless. Downsampling to 16 bits is never good and I easily notice the difference between a 24-bit file and a 16-bit file so it's pointless to talk about that. Many people see no difference between 4K and 1080p in the video world. That doesn't mean that 4K is not better.
@@raffiequler7510 As usual, and audiophile comes along and makes another feel bad about their listening habits... :(
YES! LOSSLESS PHYSICAL MEDIA!!! 👍👌👍
Being as i still use my 1994 Technics CD player i'd say that's an emphatic yes.
Cool, I still have an excellent Technics cd player from 1988, works perfectly, and puts new supposedly better cd players to shame, Model SL-P770, if you are interested, bloody great machine imo.
I'm using my 1989 Technics CD. It plays beautifully.
Same here. Technics SL 777. Stunning.
I have a 40 year old Rotel CD player that has a coax digital output. I recently bought a high-end VMV DAC and connected the Rotel. My entire CD collection has a new lease on life and i will continue to buy CDs - new and used. Do NOT count CDs out. They remain an excellent medium for your favorite music.
@Non Latifundia they didn’t even have CD players 40 years ago back in the early 80’S I only seen records and record players cds came in the Mide and later 80’s but weren’t popular until the early 90’S I still buy cds I have hundreds of cds over 3000
Getting into vinyl got me back into cassettes and CDs again. I guess I'm a sucker not just for the nostalgia, but the tactile experience.
Just like record players. There are literally billions and billions of CD’s in the world, and many people own many hundreds and thousands of them. I own about 500, and I have no intentions of throwing them away. I will always need a CD player as long as I live, and when I die my daughter will need one to play the CD’s I leave behind. And a record player to play all the vinyl I leave behind. Even if I embrace streaming, I’ll never give up my collections.
CDs are the only way I can listen to self-published musicians who live in remote locations.
After looking at the Wikipedia article on DSD, it just looks like some sort of audio compression format. The files still need to be converted to PCM for a DAC to output the data into analog audio. So, why should I use DSD over Flac? Does DSD have a better compression ratio over Flac? Is DSD lossless? Is DSD superior to Flac, and how so?
Robert Gaines there are some DACs that support DSD.
Streaming starts to feel boring and to easy and simple. It’s nice to have a physical copy of music you love that you can touch it, admire it and even smell it.
I still only listen to CD & SACD. No streaming at all here.
Great but get into "records" ....its a whole different listening experience
Same, except for that one song here and there that isn't available on CD
@@joebloggs8636 I began with LP when I was young and bought my first stereo in the middle of the 80's but I can't stand the crackle & pops the LP-music gives you so in the beginning of the 90's i sold my LP-player & LPs and focused just on CDs so I've tried it already.
Me too! And Vinyl and tape. SACD is the best.
have you ever heard about local tiles which don't require Internet and streaming? works fine since 1999
Yes. I hear Miami Bass for it clarity, boom, and larger frequency range that mp3 just can't give me.
Damn dawg how do you just leave off on a cliffhanger like that?? Almost like you want me to buy the book... 😂
I have a Junior Brown CD, "Down Home Chrome" that was recorded using DSD. it sounds fantastic.
I just purchased another CD transport last night. That makes 2 in the last year. As far as movies I still perfer to buy the disk. Yes I have a pretty good streaming library for my family but when I go into the theater its a 4k dvd almost everytime.
I have a collection of 3000 plus CDs, vinyls and mini discs and am still looking for a cd recorder and mini discs player cum recorder
and would appreciate some kind gentleman or lady could tell me where I can still buy these equipment. I really enjoy recording
the songs track by track from my pre-recorded CDs and vinyls into my empty CDs and play them in my automobile or at home. I
just hate streaming and using the computer to download all these music. It is just not my cup of tea and with all these new technologies it makes people becoming lazier and lazier.
My Denon CD player allows me to repeat sections of any music I happen to be playing. Small sections, or large. They will repeat as long as I want them to. As a musician who wants to learn various musical passages, this is a fabulous asset. This feature is reason enough by itself to own a CD player that has this feature.
I still have a phillips 14 bit CD player I modified and it still sounds good but I listen to vinyl now. I bought your book on Kindle.
I hope so I've just bought a new one..
What is disturbing is all the cd titles that have gone out of print!!
Good ol' Sgt. Ito. :) "It's your birthday." That was so awesome. I'm sure that someone suggested it already, and maybe they are online, but those recorded interviews you did in Europe will make fascinating late-night listening for some folks. Maybe a lot of folks. Its music history, and from a time that won't be back. I was also in the army on my (20th) birthday, and we managed to go see Yes in concert. Beats the kitchen. hehe.
I love my cd player (technics SL-PG320A 1988) and goes well with my whole set up with aux, cassette tape, vinyl and radio.
Sorry give me the physical copy over the cloud any day!
Exactly. It's like comparing your device's network connection. Wifi or Ethernet. Ethernet every time.
The irony when paul cares so much for audio quality yet could care less about buying blu rays disc as they have the best audio for movies. Very dissapointed in hearing that from him. No stream or official downloads for movies have lossless audio like blu ray does.
He is a two channel guy and is probably unaware of surround codecs. I think he said he uses a Sonos system for home theatre. Sonos does not even decode lossless audio, so he would be unable to utilize the better codec from a blu-ray.
Who are the 2 girls in the middle-front at the end-shot of the video? : )
I have a couple thousand songs that I D.L thru HDtracks, I also buy CD (but the recording labels on all USUALLY make a difference) - like some I have heard, SOMETIMES a High Rez audio file will NOT sound as good as SOME low Rez - but overall, an MP3 vs a High Rez or properly engineered CD 99% of the time will NEVER sound as good as the others. A properly engineered CD sounds EXACTLY the same as a 24/96 or 24/192 to me and my musician friends and artists. So, I love having the actual CD and all the info on the pamphlet, and enjoy it. My system is sorta nice, Goldenear Triton 3, Anthem AMP 225, Yamaha Pre, and Denon CD player. LOVE your vid's Paul, I never miss a one!
I love my Rotel cd player because of the physical media and the booklets and you can buy an entire album for just 2$. If they are scratched you can buff them out. My Rotel has a better dac than my receiver. I feel I get less noise from my dac in my cd player then I do from the dac in my laptop.
I'm a big fan of streaming. I love it because now I can by the CDs, DVDs and Blurays that streamers throw out for a dollar a piece in Op shops.... and I can watch them for free!
what is the best between dsd and flac then ?
I will keep recording CDs. I love all of my CDs. I use streams only when I'm not at home. But when I'm home I turn on my CD player and I start listening to music. CDs are here to stay 💞
i love my oppo player and my 300 plus collection of cds-------damn the vinyl,hook up the dac and full speed ahead!
I think you spelt oppo backwards.
CDS are here to stay like vinyl records
I recently started buying used/new cds in Japan as they are super cheap (at Book-Off), in great condition, and I can listen to an entire cd without commercials, viruses, spending all day uploading, giving my money away to Apple or some other illegal downloading site. My favorite thing to do is working out, listening to a band that I've never heard before. Its like a mini adventure. Love it!
As a fellow veteran, when I read the passage about how you signed up for an extra year to get the job you want, a little voice in my ear was saying you just got screwed by your recruiter. I delayed my entrance to the air force by six months to get in at just the right time so I could get the job I wanted. When I left basic training I went to tech school to learn how to pump gas. It was a far cry from the engineering assistant job my recruiter assured me I would get. The job didn't require much brain power which allowed me to take college classes. In the end I was able to go to college after I got out and got the engineering degree I wanted.
I like buying CDs at the Goodwill or thrift stores
My guy 🙌
Yes they are. A lot of people just want a collection. So do I.
When you buy a title on CD,you have it for your personal collection. I still have some CD's I bought in 1987. There's no substitute for having your own copy.I have at least 800 CD's,and counting.. A lot of people are dumping them,so you can get 'em for cheap.Sound-wise, some sound better than others,same as LP'S. The format is still viable,even after 35 years.
How is the DSD format able to improve a recording from an original PCM source?
I will always buy a CD over a digital downloads for ever and always....
the world is not about digital downloads alone and for rip my bought CD to add a digital losless copy to me library I don't need Internet or a CD player - and no there is no quality difference between a CD or a computer connected with an optical link to the hifi equipment - in most cases its even better then the idiotic analog connection a lot of people doing with a digital device like a CD player
Until they finally come up with a LEGIT upgrade for effectively storing music-based media, CDs and their variants are gonna stick around indefinitely. Personally, I can't be bothered with streaming services (only really use them to check out song samples to see if the CD those songs are on is worth getting or not, like I previously did with Napster back when it first came on the scene) because I'm just too set in my ways at this point. Ha, my younger brother thinks I should move on from them but what he fails to realize is that music that's streamed will NEVER sound nearly as good as that coming from a properly manufactured CD due to the former's well-documented compression issues PLUS YOU DON'T NEED A DAMN INTERNET TO PLAY A CD!!! Besides, had these major electronics companies kept to the relatively high standards that were set in the 80s and even the early-90s as far as CD players go then more and more people would get a lot more enjoyment out of them today. They can start by putting a halt to outsourcing their manufacturing bases to notoriously low-grade China and start making them ON DEMAND with state-of-the-art components that don't wear out after a couple years and carefully assembled by high-level professionals who truly love what they do for a living. Now that isn't too much to ask for...or is it???
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I'm shocked you can't tell the difference with blu rays and streaming for movies. It's such a massive improvement in video and audio quality, especially the audio mix in different scenes.
I bought quite an expensive NAD CD-player because I like to own albums physically and buy one every now and then. I didn't expect to get mindblown by the sound quality. You hear the drums so much clearer and the room reverb is also excellent. Also the panning - where every instrument/voice is, is much clearer. I have some albums from HDtracks in 24bit, 192khz that also sound this good, but damn, I didn't expect CDs to sound nearly as good as this.
I still buy cd's and play them in my study, car and of course my high end system in the living. Some cost as much €25/$30. You get a nice booklet with it with details on the music and composer, lyrics, background info on the artist etc. The quality is better than streaming music and there are no adverts or other rubish to bother me.
I still buy cd's sacd's 4K blu ray's, I don't do any streaming for video or audio.
Same here
Same with me,and I will NEVER do streaming of any kind.
In the 90's when I got my Denon CD player the most expensive units were tank like heavy! Is that still important today?
what about all the streaming websites that use bad codecs and destroy all the dynamic range in the footage?
Play back from CD is just better than streaming. I think that it's down to noise, timing and jitter.
I use an old DCS Elgar system that's 20 years old but they were the experts in DSD and my player still up samples everything to DSD before conversion.
On my system streaming is the poorest. Take the same file and play it via the computer and it's better. Burn it to CD and it's even better still. Original CD is best. SACD is the holy grail
No matter what medium l use the same file is sent via cables in to a separate DCS purcell upsampler before conversion and everything runs from a DCS clock into the Dac. The only physical difference is the server or source but the difference very audible
Pay back from CD is much better and you get the full sound like vinyl
I hate the word relevant. It just means "something dumb and lazy kids don't bother with."
I would disagree, as a person studying to become a software engineer, my job would be to make people's lives easier. That is the very reason why technology has come this far. Its not about being lazy, its about being more productive with your time. The time it takes to manage and use a physically library could be better spend on other things.
My only gripe would be that digital files encourage people to listen to individual tracks rather then an entire album start to finish, which results in fewer and fewer artists creating a clear journey in their albums.
@@AccuphaseMan tell them again
when can i get the White Album on DSD Paul?
I've tried all sorts of different formats (FLAC, AAC, mp3 320, aac) with various computer DACs, for Macs, PCs running Windows, Linux, Streaming Over Airplay, Streaming, etc etc. I've even written my own media player for windows to better manage a very large local FLAC or whatever format music library.
But nothing sounds better than my 80s Yamaha CD player into my Yamaha amp (or my Sony megastorage 300 cd changer - remember those?), and sometimes I just do not want to look at a screen to listen to music.
There are a lot of variables in the playback of audio on a computer device/streaming. The OS, the audio hardware, the sound device driver code, the encoded music file format and settings, the playback code, the codec's code, internet speed, quality control at streamers end etc etc. All of which can influence the quality.
so cd still has a place to me and has many benefits including no monthly bill or internet requirement amongst many other benefits.
PalmVegas I don’t want to look at a screen to play music either.
Who cares whats relevant.Go with whatever sounds good to you.
CDs are amazing.
No internet requirement, no monthly bill, buy once and it's your forever, excellent sound quality, much better than any download and, obviously much better than vinyl records, no need for $500 equipment to sound good, can play and sound great in the car, on a dvd player, game console. But the best feature is the price, eBay is flooded with cheap CDs, I just bought 12 of them for under $50... I'm sure you can get them even cheaper if you take the time to go out to garage sales, thrift stores, etc.
@Deleted Account yes cds are amazing cds are the way to go cds are way better then any format or download or vinyl records records cost so much money to own and take care of u have to be needles 1 needle cost $100 when u play records you hear it wearing it doesn’t sound clear like how discs sound I have over 3000 cds I still buy cds I buy my cds on cd universe or I buy cds on eBay
For those of us who have been through many formats (and have bought the same “album” multiple times), the issue of redundancy starts to make itself known. Do I want to keep (just an example, could be anything) Led Zeppelin II in LP, cassette, 8 track (ok, stretching here), reel to reel, CD, SACD, MP3, plus multiple streaming services with their own multiple quality formats? Unless you have unlimited space and resources to keep all/some of these formats viable in your system, you have to start removing or just ignoring some of them. And for the ones you decide to keep/use, how much money and effort do you spend to upgrade/maintain?
I just bought an Onkyo 7030 for less than 200.00. I used to buy 700.00 Cd player 6 years ago. The new player beat out the older, hands down. Using a vintage Creek 4330se, Q acoustic 3020i, Audio Quest rocket 33 cables. The cd's sound rivals most vinyl.
I buy used CDs, polish them, rip to FLAC, and store them on my NAS.
BlankBrain how exactly do you polish them?
@@MarioAMM1 I converted an old bench grinder to a polishing wheel. I found some buffing wheels on Amazon. Here is the video that taught me how to do it. It takes some practice, so don't start out with a valuable CD.
ruclips.net/video/QXzB5JYFTeQ/видео.html
Very much relevant, so much so, that it dominated the Munich Show 2019. Long live my Wadia S7i.
I have an Oppo CD/DVD, a 1983 Thorens Turntable, a 7,000 song iTunes collection, and a Cambridge Streamer for Tidal Flacs and love all these formats. They all have merits and sound great to me.
Being an audiophile I'm surprised you don't notice how much better the sound quality is for a blu ray vs streaming. Especially with a good surround sound system, the movie soundtrack comes to life.