THE SHOCKING BENEFITS OF THE ELECTRIC COLLAR
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 24 дек 2023
- THE SHOCKING BENEFITS OF THE ELECTRIC COLLAR
In this video, Ivan Balabanov discusses the many benefits of the electric collar during his morning walk with his belgian malinois dogs from the famous Ot Vitosha Malinois kennel.
If you enjoy this video, please subscribe to be the first to watch future videos like this!
Ivan Balabanov is a 2-time World Champion dog trainer, Ot Vitosha Malinois breeder, trainer of Premier Protection Dogs and founder of the revolutionary Training Without Conflict® dog training system.
For more information about Ivan Balabanov and information on how to train your dog using the Training Without Conflict® system, check out:
trainingwithoutconflict.com
malinois.com
premierprotectiondogs.com 
Животные
Absolutely correct! The world has gone mad…thank you for fighting for truth!!!
I've used e collars with my dogs for years. When an owner knows how to use them they are life changing for dog and owner. The dog is happy the owner is happy. Dogs need control in their lives. They have happier lives with the e collar. I wouldn't have a working group dog without one. I've used them for my golden retriever, Labrador retriever, Alaskan malamutes and Belgian malinois. Thank you Ivan for being a voice for the truth.
I used an Educator to teach my GSD, who had a very strong pray drive for rabbits and squirrels, that it is not a wanted behavior. If she would run after a rabbit across a busy street, she could get killed or maimed and I do care about my dogs, so I used an e-collar to "discourage" the chase. I argue that "positive only woke" folks don't care about their dogs. Now I don't even put the e-collar on her anymore and a rabbit can cross 20ft in front of her and she won't go chase it. YET, I have a better relationship with her, than many "positive only" trained dogs I see in the park who don't give 2 sh*ts about their owners, run all over the place behaving like lunatics with other dogs, never listen to their recall and have to be leashed a mile before the owners get to the parking lot. I walk my dog in a heel position between running cars in traffic and she wouldn't leave my side no matter what. Her recall is impeccable and always happens on first call. No matter where I go or what is in her environment, she doesn't leave my side unless given the "free dog" command and at home I am her favorite pillow. So much for fearing me or having a bad relationship. Dogs are drawn to and respect a fair and loving but consequent leader. They seem to despise owners without rules AND the willingness to consequently enforce them. Go get a cat. I am a believer that a few moments of discomfort guarantee a lifetime of off-leash freedom and keeps them off the blue-juice table - try and take that from my dog and me.
Best comment! I concur!
My adopted dog, probably 7yrs old, I had for 1 year unable to let him do what he had always done...catch squirrels and rabbits or trying to attack coyotes. He caught rodents on 10 ft leash, even. He had been allowed to run wild until he returned exhausted, but had been lost more than once and had some kind of traffic incident where he had become terrified of vehicles. I helped him cure himself of the terror in one lesson by stopping his predictions through walking in star-pattern until he was mentally exhausted and he walked right onto on a very busy road sidewalk and his terror was over then. Still I could not trust him when he was in the woods because he would be gone until he decided to return. I used food reward and praise for easy recalls but that never would work not when a wild animal chase began. Then I heard one word that changed everything > "existential". Make it existential. So I withheld food one day and stopped feeding him at home. The next day he was noticeably changed on our first walk in the park and I let him go free with many fast recalls for a little food all through our walk. By the way, electric collar on, in case something went wrong. He had been accustomed to it and how to turn it off. Everything changed when food came only through listening to recall and electric collar if he did not respond due to prey drive. Now he can fly through the woods and he can be trusted to not disappear. One whole year and then a one-day breakthrough from feeding change and back up with ecollar. He has freedom back and it's my freedom back too. I hated having him only on leash because he's a super runner who can fly over or through the broken branches.
Could not do it without ecollar and him understanding that the feeding came through cooperation. Not about treats any more. A different dog, a happier dog resulted.
What what your correction level on the e collar? My dog is still testing me
@@lilpap974 First I taught him how to turn it off - by obedience to a commands that he knew well, at high enough level to bother him if he refused, and immediate turn off when he began to obey. I know that Ivan does not use that method, but I'm of low skill level.
When he was excited in prey drive and staring at a squirrel, I'd call him, give him a half second to show any response, then if ignored, full power for a split second. Full power on my $45 collar might be a lot less than full power on an expensive unit. I have nothing to compare to, except I sure wouldn't want it. Also, it depends on fur and sensitivity of dog and probably charge level of battery. You know it's not enough or not in good contact if he ignores it. When in a hunting mood with prey in sight it's different than when sitting at home. Naturally the dog must know the command very well or never use the collar like that.
It freed him and me and he's VISIBLY a happier dog to have a lot of autonomy outside in the woods running about like he wants to.
It was that or he would be doomed to boring walks and lack of real exercise and being tired out. Now that I've let him chase so long as he returned when called, he is testing the boundary, so I'm undecided on whether or not to let him continue to chase within my vicinity. Tired dog is good dog, so I am very tempted to keep allowing him limited chase range so long as he returns well when called. He's testing now though.
Very well said!!!
There’s no way those dogs could get that level of fulfillment if they were on long lines. Anyone should be able to see those are some very happy dogs and having a great time playing. The e collars are keeping them out of trouble and safe while allowing them an enormous level of freedom. Great video!
Yes they can get that level of fulfillment using long line but there's the associated and unnecessary danger of entanglement and chocking with long leads and collars on large acreage that e-collars eliminate. e-collars are more effective, safer and sensible than long leads. Although long leads are effective, mostly safe and are sensible, modern scientific technology has expanded the training effectiveness, safety, and sensibility and range of long lead training. It's correct that you say "e collars are keeping them out of trouble and safe while allowing them an enormous level of freedom."
@@cfogle100 I am in agreement with your statement on long lines being a danger in this situation. I personally would not use them in this situation either.
@@cfogle100 Spot on - risk of injury is so real. After having a dog with a permanent chest injury from a long line getting caught on a tree stump, and after me having a rather gnarly scar from the line accidentally tangling with my ankle on a dog fetching a ball... I moved to an e-collar and never looked back.
@@cfogle100I don't see how those dogs would have been able to get that level of freedom if they were on a long line. They wouldn't have the same amount of freedom. Care to elaborate?
@@cfogle100A dog that is completely free is different than a dog on a line. They have the ability to make choices good and bad. That’s why dogs are more relaxed off leash. Dogs on a leash do not have the ability to fight or flight. They can only fight.
What a blast to see the top world trainer have his dogs just run free and exercise naturally. E-collar is a great thing and gives dogs as much freedom as possible not being attached by a rope to the owner and still be safe!
100 % agree E collars are a great training tool. I have issues with the ignorant people who think they are abusive and the ignorant people who use them with out getting instruction from a professional dog trainer. I have been yelled at by a HOA person for having my dog off leash, and wouldn’t even consider that he was under my control with an e collar.
Couldn’t agree more. I have two Malinois one personal protection and one French Ring. I walk them both in my neighborhood with e collars. I actually had an HOA lady (funny side note, her name is actually KAREN) reported me to the police for animal abuse.
This is why I follow your advice- my dogs are happy and healthy!!! These positive force free trainers are absolutely abhorrent! Putting people and dogs in danger! Keep fighting, Ivan!!!
People who love dogs, often love wildlife - wildlife needs to be protected from pet and/or sport dogs. This video is a perfect example of the competent and fair use of an electric collar on very happy, high drive dogs to protect any wild animals they might decide to target whilst running free.
As the owner of a rescued Spanish galgo: THIS☝🏽
100%.
Cannot agree more.
Of course I can't legally use ecollars in my state but I can see how they would have changed my dogs' lives, how it would have allowed me to take them hiking in the wild with complete safety, how it would have allowed my entire bitch to play with the other dogs safely etc etc etc. 😉
If you are reading this and you are anti-ecollar, please take a moment to consider; Ivan's dogs don't look suppressed, anxious, afraid of him. It can't be as bad as they say if these dogs are clearly having an absolute blast!
Which state has outlawed e collars as I love over seas and did not know this was happening in the states.
@@hawkeye98 not a state in the US. I am in Australia.
Couldn't agree more. I have 3 german shepherds and they are happy as could be.
Thanks for this video. I train Malinois and it’s amazing to me how many people never take the time to understand this tool that we use. It is by far the most humane way to train a dog.
I am one of those people who never took the opportunity to learn the benefits of an e-collar. From listening to Ivan’s podcasts my mind was changed. Couple this with my first very high energy dog with a terrible recall. And had to use an e-collar. I am now a believer in the benefits of an ecollar when used correctly
Well it’s not! And hundreds of trainers don’t use or need to.
@@xGHOSTHAWKxand hundreds of dogs DO NEED IT. Ivan said it, if there's an other way, just prove it. 😉
@@xGHOSTHAWKx I guess people like you and trainers like you think it’s much more humane to jerk a dog around by a flat collar or slip lead. I’ve seen more damage done to a dog by inexperienced people who think they know what they are doing with simple tools than I have ever seem with an E collar. At some point the stupidity has to stop. Ivan is a proven expert and a great trainer. You would be wise to follow his methods and see the improvement in your dogs
@@xGHOSTHAWKx hundreds of trainers who don’t use it also give up on dogs with prey drive and aggression! Their methods are not safe for the dog or their owners.
Great to see the dogs being dogs but you still have the ability to keep them safe and out of trouble should it be necessary ,especially in the uk the so called authority’s seem to just be waiting for an excuse to call a working breed dangerous or out of control and get it band or destroyed . Keep the educational videos coming 👍thank you Ivan.👊
We are game over in Europe!
Ivan stay strong and you guys in the US fight for your rights.
Nice video to see happy dogs they are not abuse and happy with the e-collar.
Really? That's so sad 😢 they are still legal in most countries in Europe, I thought it was only France and some parts of the UK? Its not banned in Ireland today but we'll see. It'll probably just be a matter of time ⏲️ 🙄
Yes , we need more on this , as talking as someone from the uk , where the ban is currently on pause. We have an amazing organisation called ARDO run by Jamie penrith. You should pod cast with him.
All shocking truths!
Thanks Ivan!
Keep fighting the good fight, Ivan. We need professional trainers to speak up for us or we’re gonna end up like Europe. My 7 year old male GSD has gained his freedom back with the e collar after a board and train. I can take him in public, parks, etc whereas before I could not due to dog reactivity. He is happy and I hardly ever have to use it. I used to be anti e collar because of how I had witnessed a family member use it on their dog. But I am a big proponent after watching professionals use them correctly and fairly.
Ivan Balabanov! The best! He surrounds himself with extreme knowledge. His accolades speak volumes. He does not have to brag! Undisputedly, he is the best!
I started watching Ivan’s videos about a year ago. I have been training my 9 month old, female GSD for about 6 months. Ivan is always on target. I have purchased an “Educator” and needed direction on how to advance to E-Collar training. Lots of deer near my place. I am a novice, but am amazed how effective Ivan’s training techniques and methodology is. Ivan is the best I have seen in the business
Thank you Sir🙏
Thank you for sharing this.
i love nothing more than to watch my dog, or any dog RUN!!! IT's so fulfilling to me.. i also use the E-collar but only for free run supervision as you do. It is indeed a freedom. The e-collar is a language that must be learned to be effective and not harm ur dog.
keep fighting the good fight.I appreciate you taking the time to make these videos..
Thanks Ivan! Beautiful dogs and beautiful property you have. Thanks for putting this out.
The best Xmas gift ever Ivan! I am just about to take the leap, was going to post some questions in the FB Grad group before I jumped, so perfect timing. Thank you.
Thanks Ivan!!!
Excellent. Thank you.
❤❤❤ the best as always
What a dream property Ivan. You and the dogs deserve it bro🤝Thank you🤘🏼🐺
Looking forward to the release of the study. Thanks for taking the time
I have a rescue female greyhound, staffi pitbull mix. Insane prey drive. Dog listens perfectly, except for when there's hare and rabbits around. I'm from the Netherlands so using ecollars are forbidden. So I am one of those people who is forced to long line etc... But let's say in a hypothetical situation I followed an awesome course in Belgium, where ecollars are legal. And let's say hypothetically speaking we went through this course together and because of this I can let my dog run free all the time. That's all hypothetical ofcourse and I wouldn't never disobey the law nor would I advice anyone to do this. If I would even own such a thing it would naturally only make sound or vibrate, because I walking on a long louse line makes my dog so much happier than running free. Right ;)
Great video, as always ❤
THANKS IVAN
One size does not fit all, like you say, some dogs benefit from it and some don’t. So why are so many of the force free community trying to say one size does fit all, in that force free works for every dog and every behaviour, it doesn’t! Dogs are individuals just like us.
Thank you for your awesome work 🙏
Love it! Just got a Dogtra 280C for Christmas. Can’t wait to start training with the collar the proper way 😉
Thank you for endlessly sharing and trying to be the voice of common sense, in this crazy world of dod training !
I asked for and received an ecollar for Christmas 2023 and on Jan 7, 2024 I have our first
session with our trainer on how to use the ecollar correctly. I just watched your video and I am feeling more confident about the training session in two days. Thank you for sharing. The trainer has 2 Malinois and I have a 19 month German Shepherd. The trainer has told me that my dog doesn’t respect me and that my dog is stubborn. The trainer is correct. My dog’s recall is so-so which is not a good thing.
Thank you for sharing.
Wow beautiful dogs . Watching them run was breathtaking.
Wonderful dogs
It's really gratifying seeing them used this way, because it's exactly what I use mine for. I don't have a lot of success using it as a training tool specifically (e.g. teaching commands using a shock), but it allows my malinois the freedom to run around and be herself without me having to be concerned that she'll indulge her prey drive on the wrong target.
Great video Ivan.
Great video! Off leash freedom is a great way to bond with your dog.
Very nice and informative video sir!
I am a huge proponent of E-Collars, Most people shouldn’t use them either they don’t know how to use them properly or they are afraid to use e-Collar’s. All you haters open your mind and understand this is a great tool to have in our K-9 training. Use responsibly..!!
Shock collars are a must. I totally agree with you ,depending on the dog. Thanks
Ivan we would love to see a day in the life video like this. I am doing your certification soon. A video of the day in the life, some snippets of training, your routine, off lead walks.. would love to see how the best in the world does it on the daily😊
Right tools for dog and trainer
A long time GSD fan here. I'm familiar with your expertise and happy to see you here on YT! I have owned and trained many different breeds, the majority second hand dogs, over the decades and always enjoyed the challenge of dogs that other trainers deemed "difficult" or "impossible" to train. Once won a HIT ( obedience) with a second hand Bloodhound back in the 70's, against the usual players ( Labs, Dobermans, GSD's etc).No force, only play was his key. This was long before play training was a thing. At that time there was only one other Bloodhound in the entire world that had acheived an OTC. Anyway, while I'm not much of a fan of the AKC anymore, I know that there are many good, but often very different, tools for dog training, including e-collars, that can work wonders with a given dog. Most of the time, I've not needed an e-collar, but when it was needed, it was literally the difference between life and death for that particular dog. Thanks for providing these videos and educating the public on this useful tool!
I totally agree with you. I live in Alaska and we normally will have Moose or Black bears in our yard. If my Belgian Malinois sees them before I do he will go after them. I use the e collar to break his focus and once I use it he returns to me and sits down. Without the collar he will attack the other animals and my be injured or killed in the process.
I live in Alaska and totally understand why you use the E collar. Especially in all of our wilderness and animals! Love the way you explain
I'm in agreement with you totally, the e collar in my opinion is absolutely a great tool, in the right hands. The invisible leash I love it❤
Long live modern media ! This eloquent video is far better than thousands of words and discussions. And people can think on the content without getting emotional or feeling discomfort. Ivan strikes again! Bravo.
Thanks Ivan!
Our family dog was professionally ecollar trained and now he’s off leash at the lake everyday.
Before the training, he used to swallow up fish skeletons/dead fish but now he leaves them alone. If he does pick one up.. I just say “out” and he drops them when before he didn’t listen at all! It’s a stress relief!
2 Amazing Malinois Kimba and Tarzan being Malinois and having a blast ...this full on balanced training including e-collars....welcome to Ivan's Amazing playground! Pd did you see the massive size of those kennels !
It’s a beautiful thing to give your dogs freedom!
I learned to use an electric collar a few years ago. I wasn’t against them I just didn’t know how to properly use one. I have found it to be very liberating for my young Belgian with high prey drive. A few days ago I took my two Belgians to the mountains. My oldest did not need an e collar but I did put one on my two year old. They both ran and had a blast just like in this video. There were quail and other wildlife that my puppa was interested in but did Not chase as he knows not to now. It was also a very simple and clear learning process for him. I appreciate Ivan posting this video to help clear up misconceptions surrounding the use of this tool.
Agree completely. Would love for you to have an e-collar training course for purchase.
great video lovely to see your 2 Malinois
runnimg about freely ,how much energy do they have crikey.
i hate how they look so depressed and unhappy with there ecollars on 😊
i agree totally fantastic tool used in the right way ,i have been using ecollars for training not just my own dogs for clients dogs aswell and would not be without them .And as you said Ivan
do what you please with your dogs as long as you are looking after there best interest ,
and leave others alone to do the best for there dogs no one has the right to tell anyone else what to do with with there dogs even more so when people are totally uneducated in doing so.
i would love to see more videos like this Ivan and would be good for anyone
to see dogs in action with there ecollars on
Thank you.
Thank you for providing this information. I have an 8 mo old mal with super high prey drive-I have known this is the direction I needed to go, but not confident with using the electric color. But, I will give it a go. I am hoping there is some more instructional training available-I understand it is timing. But, do I offer praise when she stops with the shock or just carry on with play?
Thank you Ivan! Reminding Americans that we have a choice.. that’s what America is about!!! Freedom to make an educated choice as to what’s best for each situation! E-collars are not right for everyone or every dog, but for many it gives the dog freedoms! My dogs (German Shepherd and Deutsch Drahthaar) love putting their ecollar on.. it means FUN and freedom.. leave that choice to handlers for each individual dog!!! Preserve our right for training tools!!! Thank you!!
where can I find the study you did? I'm very interested. Love your work my dog lives his life with full freedom because of collar training we're currently fighting the ban here in England.
Your dogs are beautiful! I have a reactive young black working line male GSD who I take out before daylight off leash on trails. As he grows he will only get stronger and I would like to know I can let him off leash but control him for safety reasons. I bought an e collar but just need to have the knowledge and confidence to use it. Thank you for a great video!
Love you, Ivan! We need MEN, like YOU. To make sense, to lead..please don’t ever give up.
💯 agree!
Yep 👍
Ecollars are freedom-makers 🙏
It’s very important to *learn how* to use one from a good, experienced trainer.
Great video…I think you are spot on with your philosophy on dogs. There must be consequences for wrong behavior to shape behavior. Look at people these days. The consequences ar not significant enough to change bad behavior…
Great video. Perfectly illustration why e-collars are the best thing in the world for crazy, drive dogs - dogs that love to race around. The e-collar - used intelligently - allows those dogs to be free and race around without fear of being able to recall them and stop them from something that might cause harm. Great video. The e-collar lets dogs like this enjoy their lives. Never understood how walking a high drive dog on a leash gives much joy to the dog.
Thank you for the input! Cannot agree more
I think force free methods are perfect for mental stimulation for you and your dog. It really challenges your ability to communicate and the engagement between you and your dog. I think, when conducted early and with perfect consistency, it reduces the need for aversives when the dog is older. However, I think every dog has unique needs that force free methods cant accommodate. Not every dog needs an aversive, but not every dog can be reliably trained with FF alone.
My dogs first trainer was force free (my local petsmart trainer) and she taught us so much. My dog loved her. Our second trainer was a balanced trainer. My dog also loved that trainer. Ultimately, if you can achieve a deeper bond with your pet and develop their respect for you, that is the most important thing. The problem with aversives is that too many people are not educated in the proper use of them and to many people don't want the professionals to educate on proper use. The reality is, if more trainers can educate on the proper use, then we would see less problems. Aversives are not abusive.
I would argue that force free methods are 'perfect' for mental stimulation. A lot of dogs get mentally stimulated by free shaping which most of the time causes frustration on the dog because they have to figure out how to get the reinforcement, they feel pressure and that pressure is turned off by them once they've solved the problem (negative reinforcement)
Thanks for a breath of common sense. What more can you offer the detractors to your way of training than to offer a platform to discuss? You are much more open and fair than your opponents. And so much more experienced, no surprise if you have few if any takers...
Great video! To my dogs E Collars= Freedom. As soon as I pick them up they get zoomies in anticipation of an off-leash romp.
Living the dream 👍👍👍
You are a master great
100% agreed
Ivan, I was thinking about a situation...If in the exact moment Tarzan sees an Alligatorand you press the button to avoid a fatal interaction could give START to Tarzan making him open agression?
I saw a Dobermann doing this with a trainer. Thanks bro🤘🏼🐺
Fantastic video i live in england i own 2 male 2 year old weimaraners one needs an e collar the other dosent they are siblings but one has a higher prey drive and i live where there is a lot of livestock my dogs love their off leash but england are banning e collars around feb 2024 i will still use mine for emegency use very rarely use now on walks such a good tool being negatively talked about by organisations that really have no idea about dogs please keep your dogs running free
Love it how you present the tool and let the dogs be dogs. Many people don’t understand how it works and never felt this stimulation on their own. But they talk about like they have seen it all… You can punish a dog with an e-collar, a leash, your hands, or on the base of their mind and on the psychology site. The e-collar can do beautiful things for many dogs out there. Open your mind and eyes, folks. This cannot be the only way to interact with things witch other people love to use on their own dogs, because it's the best way for them and help both of them the most, in a way where the dog doesn’t have to be always on a leash, when it will train right. It’s also a language to communicate with our dogs in a very clear way when they understand the stimulation... and this will give them the freedom in a way that is very fast, and they also don't have to feel pain and stress if you take your time to learn it to the dog. And last but not least… when a dog gets really punished like it damages his life dramatically... however, it doesn’t matter with what tool or whatever it was, this all happens, but it is every time the owner who does this to the dog and the owner are the problem. Not the E-Collar and not the Prong-collar, Harness, Slipleash... what ever, you name it..., but how owners work with these tools or miss use them, this makes the different. Every tool have a good site when the Trainer or owner know what he's doing there and getting in the training with positive vibes and only wishes the best for his dog with no pain,no stress, no conflict... trainingsmindset.
I have just recently started my young Decker Hunting Terrier on the e collar. Note that I have been using one off and on for years. Diablo sees me coming with it, and lights up like a Christmas tree, because he knows he’s about to go for his morning run. In his case, I am more than happy for him to chase critters; he’s a terrier, and that’s sort of the point. However, I do need him to come when called, and I wouldn’t put it past him to chase a car…. Or a coyote, which might not end well. Anyway, if he comes when called, it’s party time, and he usually does. If not, I’ll use the collar. He had been very quick to learn this, and it’s rare for me to actually use it. I do wish Ivan would do a training video on how to properly introduce the collar, because I’ll bet the techniques have really advanced since ZI first started using one. I can’t tell you how much I have learned from listening and watching Ivan, even though protection sports are not my thing. I have always had hunting dogs and have two cadaver dogs currently as well as the terrier.
@Ivanbalabanov - I currently use low stim ecollar settings which I know you are against. I would love to learn your method of using high stim to train dogs. Will you be making an online course on ecollar that we can purchase? I have purchased the cornerstone collection course and make your dog somebody course which has helped me out a lot. Thank you!
LOVE Attitude Adjustment Collars. I adopted what I was told was an American Dingo / Carolina Dog. Never heard of breed. Went down to Animal Control with all his paper work and they laughed at me. They said what I had was a Belgian Malinois Mix Breed dog. They told me he was picked up as a stray, pull on the kill list, an animal group picked him up, they adopted him out from a pet store to a lady who had no idea what she had. She couldn't control him and he was a wild man controlling the house. He terrorized the whole family. She decided to rehome him. I saw his picture on Facebook, long story he came home with us. Totally an alpha male, still thinks he can pull this card. In the year and half we have had him I found YOU!!! I learned about the breed and at first I was like what did I get myself into? Never heard of the breed. Researching Belgian Malinois I found you. You talked about the shock collars. I'm like I don't need one I'll keep doing positive reinforcement training. This is truly a Military/Police mentality dog. I learned he is food driven but only on some commands.He is very aggressively protective. His bark is so intrusive he hurts my ears. He is super super smart and training to where we are at and learning more each day with constant repetitive actions. ...but, THE BARKING! We call him Mr. Barker because he just gets this mind set and will not stop. The other is he really thinks he is Mr. Alpha. I purchased a shock collar a couple of months ago wondering if this would reign him in on these two issues ...YES...! I put it on him and as a last resort tried it for the first time.... The high pitched beeping noise was enough. He yelped and I thought I killed him. He is very sensitive. His mind set CHANGED. This is how smart he is... When the collar is off he is Mr. Barker. When the collar is on he knows NOT to bark. He grabs the leash and won't let go and it becomes a game of tug of war. I used the high pitched beeper should and no more game. I have only had the collar a few months and only use the high pitched noise a few time. I want to break the bad habits.. Not sure why everyone is complaining. I tested all the sections out of me first before using them on Jaxx. My only regret, I wish I would have used is sooner as it would have made life so much easier on me. This breed is so highly intelligent. We have a mutual respect for each other. Don't know if this makes sense but he is a lover boy "Big Baby" and he is full on protection mode 24.7 ............. I fully support shock collars but I also recommend each do your own research and tested it out on yourself first so you know how the dog feels it. I used to take care of this small breed poodle "Charlie". He was a happy dog and loved life. The owner sent him off for training... They trained using the actual shock collar. Shocking him to get him to do what they wanted him to do. Charlie came home a changed dog. I never put the collar on him and it didn't matter. He went to his corner of the house and stayed right there. He slept his days away. I spent a lot of time just loving on him but his zest for life was gone.
Hi. I have two very aggressive dogs. One is a spayed boxador and the other is an intact male made up from a 7-breed mix of bully breeds and German shepherd with Great Pyrenees.
I would love to get some advice on which e-collar system might help these two.
At present I have a lot of difficulty taking them outside together as they want to kill everything that they see pass by including vehicles and all animals and people.
When separated I don’t have any problem and they are leashed at all times as I don’t have a fenced in yard yet.
Thank you in advance ,
R. Montez
Всичко най-хубаво Иване
Hi Ivan, I'd be interesting in seeing you interview Emily Larlham (aka Kikopup). She has been able to train high prey drive dogs from chasing prey using force free methods. She has some videos discussing the situation with examples. I would include links to the video but I don't think RUclips allows links
Love love my ecollar! My dogs get to move around safely instead of tethered to me. Our off leash hikes are the first thing we do every single morning
Are you utilizing e collar just for call off of prey? Or are you utilizing it in combination with a command
Amazing video, thank you for sharing. I would love to learn more about how you were able to stop the dogs choosing to chase wildlife. So my dog has a good recall, but she will not choose not to chase wildlife but needs to be recalled all the time, which makes a walk certainly not relaxing!
My first time watching you and I love your points! People don’t understand the freedom it gives dogs that need it. But let’s face it, many don’t do anything with their dogs and turn them into couch potatoes.
Ivan would you be open to a conversation with a trainer like Robert Hynes or Dale McCluskey? They dispute the validity of the 4 quadrants and that they even originated with Skinner. Seems like that might be a more interesting debate than this silly “force free” topic. Beautiful video!
When you use the ecollar do you use mainly the vibrate or the pulse?? I have an ecollar that is not very high quality, the buzzing seems to work pretty well, but i'm afraid the pulse is a bit too strong. I would love some output on that
Before I knew better/ figured out what was going on, my dog was worked on low level stim. It finally put the e collar away for a few months and then reintroduced it as purely an aversive. That being said, finding an appropriate level for the situation is really challenging since there is so much history and habituation associated with the stim. I would like know how to better use it as an aversive given his personality and challenges, but struggle to find someone that knows how to use it skillfully and intelligently
Is it possible to film a high prey dog in action when he gives chase say after a squirrel and what you do and how you do it exactly? I understand your dogs are already trained not to and it's hard to film because they're so fast but this would be something to see all right.
Our family business is young 4 yrs old but we are helping people and it feels good. But online the FF community is already coming for us. Unfortunately it is worrisome because they can’t do damage to our business. Everyone taking our course loves us. We are getting people out of the house with their dogs and finally enjoying dog ownership. Any advice would be appreciated as we will not be silenced and definitely stand up for ourselves.
🐾That was superb. Thank you. As a science gal, I spend a lot of time trying to dispel the lies and misinformation that created the ridiculously false narrative of FF versus Abuse, and this video will help a lot. I do have 2 questions for you. 1) Is the study published yet? I can’t wait to read it and be able to point to a LEGITIMATE scientific study to counter the garbage proof that is out there being touted by the strictly FF community. I’m very curious how you broke down the protocols for comparison, since that is such a difficult and important part in a study like this. 2) I support all communication tools, aversive or not, as long as used responsibly to communicate with animals and not just to punish. Unfortunately, we all know there’s easy access to them and it means they’re often used by people who haven’t a clue, and they actually do cause harm. I know it’s currently wishful thinking, but do you have any thoughts on how these tools (e-collars and prong collars in particular) could be offered in a way to anyone (meaning trainers and average dog owners) that would include some sort of mandatory education and instruction on their use? I’m mortified by the uneducated users who hurt dogs with them and give these tools a bad rap. Thanks again!
I have a Malinois from you. I use an e-collar with her and it’s been great. I can get excellent recall from her without the collar, but I still use the collar just in case.
well let me see, just came back from a walk, opened garden gate and had leash yanked out my hand because a fox had just been through it, e-collar called him back, you'd never do p+ only with predation for him, its too strong :)
I'm a trainee scientist in environmental science which includes behaviour and predation. there is no way force free works with every dog or every predator, none whatsoever, consequences matter in shaping behaviour in every species, especially social species. I'm excited to read the study, especially in UK :)
Great video and opinion! I'm delighted that in Israel, we can use an e-collar, allowing my dog to feel free.
Thank you Sir, you are my mentor. No one can teach the ‘OUT’ like you. Happy new year and God bless. Never listen to stupid pet people comments, they own cats…lol
Thank you for explaining your reasoning. I have been put down for using a pinch collar to contain my high prey drive dog around squirrels
I use one too when walking with my highly reactive prey driven GSD
From what age I can use e collar? What risk is to start from 5 month (GSD)
I have 5 Jack Russells and they have been trained since puppyhood. They are around rabbits, cats, birds etc. They will come on recall 100% We are not aloud to train with e-collars. But we was succesfull anyways!! It takes more time and effort:) But love it! I know about many hunting dogs that goes to a legal e-collar handlers so they wont chase sheep during the hunt
E-collars etc are forbidden here in Germany but if they weren't I would use them. Dogs with real high prey drive would be forced to live a life on leash if approached with positive only. It worked with my Finnish Lapphund but je was just the easiest dog that got everything the first try and always did what I wanted. However it does not work with hard headed dogs. My white GSD is very dominant with low impulse control and strong headed. He gives me the middle finger if I use positive only. I can't use e-collars however I use aversives via leash correction and grab and hold or sometimes laying him on the side (not dominating him but it calms him down). It works great and he already doesn't chase deer etc unless it's jumping out the grass in front of him. If I was allowed to use an e-collar this would be no issue anymore either and he'd be completely free. And the e-collar would be way more humane than the leash correction and grabbing. The positive only movement causes more harm than it does good
Yup - I use the regular sized Educator on my intact working line black GSD every now and then when in the deep woods. I use a plastic prong collar when on public walks and use a muzzle when at the vet. Whatever tools keep our dogs safe and happy is good - positive only training is crap and does not work for most dogs
Beautiful Dogs. I use e-collars on my boys. They get to run everyday. It's pure freedom. Their recall is great, except for one that can't help it when he sees an elk. He's getting better though. Do you know any trainers in New Mexico. I'm not a trainer, but I do my best and the e collar helps my boys to get good exercise everyday and safely.
For me, bassiclly if a dog have a big prey drive, this is perfect. Dogs can get ruined without you knowing how to control it. Then you are in trouble and dog can get confused and miserable for life. Listen to this man, one of few who knows what he is talking about. Mr. Ivan, enjoy, we hope to see you in Europe in some big competition.