Plagiarism and the Harvard President Resigns in Disgrace | My thoughts on the topic
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“One of the best things about going to Harvard is that, for the rest of your life, you are neither intimidated nor impressed by people who went to Harvard.” Thomas Sowell
Also unimpressed after you actually meet and spend time with Harvard grads.
I truly enjoy Thomas Sowell. Hope you have or get a chance to read his book "Intellectuals and Society".
I must chime in when Sowell is mentioned. I read 3 of his books and have learned tremendously. It gives you tremendous guidance in how to think about society and even your own personal life.
@@craigmatthews4517I have read Basic Economics, Discrimination and Disparities, Housing Boom and Crash. I learned a great deal. Perhaps I will read the one you mentioned one day.
@hanh3000 Thanks for your reply. Good to know there are people who read more than what can be posted in these media comments. I like how his books are backed up by evidence.
the fact someone who plagiarized was head of an "elite" university is crazy to me.
Yep. Diversity hire at its finest....
It should surprise no one.
She's their best.
Why is that crazy? DEI supports the hiring of inferior candidates because they have superior skin color.
Which tells you the truth of it
Over the last few years we’ve seen so many examples of “rules for thee” but not for me. Pandemic lockdown rules broken by our ruling class, looting is not a crime for some, document stashing is a crime for some but not for others. Our society has devolved so fast it’s scary.
We’ll see more coming out. It’s been rules for three not for me for a long time unfortunately.
Some people are held to land use, zoning, building codes, and tax laws. Others ? Nope.
I think this was the case since forever but people are having enough of it. We're done with mental gymnastics, guilt tripping and manipulations.
What do you mean by "rules for three"?
Sadly, this is just another example of the systemic rot that has become pervasive in our society today. We must take steps to expose this rot and reverse the behavior that allows it to exist & reinstall the values and behaviors that have 😊made this country great.
It's the double standard regarding students that really got me. If a relatively powerless student would get kicked out, why should someone more privileged high up the academic ladder get special treatment?
Well…
Students become really powerful (Asian ones eg.) when they take Harvard to COURT AND WIN.
Some of the farm animals are more equal than others. That's the definition of "equity".
4 legs good, two legs bad. Sounds about right for these socialists that get paid millions. When I lived in the UK we called them champagne socialists.
I feel we need to address her color card in order to address her double standards. That's her only appeal.
Also, I refuse to be silenced!!!
Students don't get kicked out for plagiarism. For one, at the student level, it happens very frequently. We scare students about being punished for it, but ultimately that serves as a motivator for students to learn how to avoid it, which is very hard because what constitutes plagiarism is not simple or cut-and-dried.
But no university is going to kick a student out for plagiarism. Cynically, they don't want to lose the tuition money and in many cases it is just that simple.
DEI is racism. Simply that.
D.E.I. is a Trojan Horse for resuscitated Marxian cultism.
Racism is just one skin suit that the cultists wear when it benefits them.
But it goes way, way beyond that.
How dare you have the nerve to mention that.
In her fanaticism, Claudine Gay booted Roland Fryer (a real academic who is Black) from Harvard specifically because she couldn't tolerate his academic work.
Did you see the local scandal about how non-colored people were NOT invited to the municipal holiday party (Philadelphia? Not sure). The truth came out when the email went to ALL employees 🫢🫢with invitations but later was recalled from the non-colored 🫣🫣🫣🫣 recipients
wow 4 replies, but only one visible. Dumbtube is really suppressing us 😑
I love how you point out that her work was so bad that no one read it enough to catch her plagiarism. What's really crazy is I hear she will still be on the faculty poisoning students minds.
For 900k a year!
It just goes to show you that the systemic rot at Harvard still exists and no one's doing anything to remove it.
I'm sure people knew they just ignored it as a form of equity.
What any of you going to do about it?
She stepped down as president purely as a PR move, and is now earning $900,000/year as a professor.
They'll also just replace her post with someone who is just as bad.
@@dereksbooksor even worse
The fact that she even is still employed at Harvard shows you the systemic rot that still exists at HARVARD.
Where are they going to get the money? 😂
On the "diversity" topic... during my midlife crisis return to college in middle age, I was walking through one of the office buildings on campus and overheard a snippet of one side of a telephone conversation. The person speaking was a black staff member. She said, "I asked for diverse. You gave me all black. That's not diverse. That's all black."
I've never forgotten that.
Well…. 😂✨😂✨
Looking for and finding the TALENTED ones would make it diverse
Once you realize "dieversity" just means no Whites, all this makes sense. She got exactly what she asked for.
Often that IS what's meant by diverse.
Fact omitted: you eavesdropped on the basketball coach.
Stop lying
Harvard debased themselves when they promoted such an unqualified person to the presidency. I was a proud Harvard alum. Now I’m just embarrassed.
Do you feel that the faculty’s academic work needs to be squeezed through the pasta rolling machine on the thinnest of the settings?
Gay got her karmic comeuppance for suspending Roland Fryer, the best black professor at Harvard (and among the best regardless of race).
She did so because he is on the polar opposite side of the DEI fence. He's fully against it.
Fryer was investigated for a bogus SA charge (according to other females familiar with both Fryer and the accuser).
The investigation found no basis for disciplinary action, and only recommended "sensitivity training".
But Gay decided to try and get his tenure revoked. When that failed, she suspended him.
I'm from Europe and always regarded Harvard as the pinnacle of academia. But little by little, starting with those extension cash grab programs I started to change my opinion. I'm sorry for people who worked extremely hard, sacrificed their youth and went into a lot of debt to study there. If I were born in USA I would have tried to do that as well, 100%.
Harvard is only a show that rich stupid people buy into for "networking".
harvard has been a clownshow for 10+ years
The longer Claudine stays at Harvard in any capacity, the more reputational harm accrues.
So she lost the title. I don't consider being kept on as faculty, with fewer duties, less stress and KEEPING her $900,000 annual salary "resigning in disgrace."
Moral victories are important.
@@jaybee9269 I agree. However, this is not a victory for anyone but her. Rewarding what she's done is not a victory for any kind of goodness.
You're not "nearly on her level"? No. You're WAAAAAAY ABOVE her level, Vinay. I love your show.
Finally, I've come across a professor who doesn't just dismiss the plagiarism by Gay as inconsequential, minor, small potatoes, no big deals or no body gets hurt. You have earned a sub from me, sir!
Amen!
I am a professor, and I agree. On top of having published very little, she only published complete rubbish on this racists stuff in rubbish journals.
@@donaldist7321 I am a post-doc and I agree with the assessment that she was completely unqualified for the job. Heck, I have more papers than her in better journals and maybe also more citations. But some of (!!) the "plagiarism" appears to be overblown. If one cites the source and just fails to reword the writing this is not nearly the same as failing to cite sources and just copying text with the intention to make it seem as it is your own.
Rewriting text can itself also be problematic because:
1. Rewriting with your own words what was already written also always changes the meaning a little bit. If A cites from B who cited from C who cited from D and so on this may over time have completely changed the original idea.
2. There is also always the risk that an author not fully understands the original idea that was presented. So if the text is not fully changed this increases the chance that another author citing from that work does understand the idea correctly again.
Obviously, in the ideal case you try to always cite the original first author of an idea and you have literal citations (in quotation marks) to cite something literally. However, in practice some times the original work may not be accessible or citing with quotation marks may be completely uncommon in your field to the point where no one does it.
If we set standards that are that strict almost everyone can be found to be guilty of something. This only will result in an environment in which basically anyone can be removed from any position if the need should arise. And this is not an environment in which free academia can flourish.
@@vampir753Just stop. Everyone can read the clearly highlighted plagiarized passages in the original reports for themselves.
I am a lecturer in the nursing department at a state university. A student plagiarized a topical paper and she was removed from the university as well as the program. So, this is a serious issue.
Not at Harvard. Ivy League degree now a joke
@pete3445 Yes, Ivy league degrees have been greatly devalued. But make no mistake, plagiarist students are routinely expelled from Harvard to this day. Unless you have sufficient DEI value, you are likely packing your bags.
Maybe many people knew of the plagiarism but were scared for their jobs and social status.
This sadly may be correct.
Surely some were aware. It is impossible that nobody saw it, even the original authors were so afraid of the "R" word that they kept it zipped. I would be utterly amazed if a white person (male, hetero) had gotten away with it for 20 years like the Mantis did...
Vinay, thank you for your honesty and the truth you bring us!!
He is rendering his opinions.
He is rendering his opinions.
He is rendering his opinions.
He is rendering his opinions.
Love your commentary. What’s wrong is wrong, what’s right is right, no matter who does it!
I first went to university 19 years ago, and last year I decided to go back to uni, many things have changed in that time, but you know one thing that has remained the same? Plagiarism was always something that would get you kicked out.
The person who suggested AI would analyse papers and sack most of the staff is telling on themselves, not once have I plagiarised my work. As a student, if I did what she had done I would be kicked out, and I attend(ed) small country universities in Australia, not one of the most prestigious university in the world.
How should a student feel, paying tens of thousands of dollars to attend that university, knowing that the head of the university didn't hold themselves to the same minimum standard that the students are expected to uphold? How dare those academics defend her. She has debased the integrity of the Academy, but I actually think those who defend her by minimising plagiarism have debased it even more.
The rank hypocrisy is sickening. I hate the anti intellectualism that has pervaded midden discourse, but by God these people are making it impossible to defend universities and academia. There needs to be a scouring to remove all these goblins.
Thank you Dr. Prasad, i love how you call it like it is.
She was a Diversity hire that’s why the university turned a blind eye. I believe they knew.
My source is I made it the f*ck up.
She was an affirmative action student from day one. Wealthy, but, i bet, with scholarships due the melanin in her skin. And from there on it was cruising, where she would be “judged”, first of all, by the color of her skin and “not by the content of [her] character”.
Shame on her. A thousand-time shame on the institutions that propped and promoted her at the cost of truly deserving candidates, irrelevant of their skin color.
Since she obtained her degree from Harvard I more than strongly suspect that.
Her parents were Haitian but financially well off. She attended the best private academies and prestigious undergraduate schools in Princeton and Stanford. Then graduate school in Harvard in Political Science.
@@donpietruk1517Trust me…that doesn’t matter. All that mattered was that she is a black woman…. I say this as a black woman…
This is one of the best boiled down explanations of what was wrong with everything about this incident with Claudine Gay. Thank you, Dr. Prasad for being brave and speaking the truth for all of us who don’t have a voice.
It would be sad if the academy simply had rot, but when the rot seems to be directed in its growth along ideological lines, it hints at a problem of much more than a lone lazy, unscrupulous, or incompetent scholar.
That’s right. She is not lone, having fooled brilliant minds. She is in the swamp of ideological mediocrity. At least 700 of them who signed the letter in defense of her presidency
Lazy, unscrupulous and incompetent as adjectives for scholar… 😂🤣😂🤣😂👏👏👏
This is Vinay's finest comment in the recent months. Except for the wishful part - i.e. Harvard (actually the whole academia) has been subverted. They will NOT hold any debate about anything that is not allowed or required of them.
Yuri Bezmenov was right.
Yuri was correct in the same way a broken clock is.
Logical, succinct, direct, and so clear that the average University student could understand it and the consequences of those defending the indefensible. And all his own work!
Corruption is endemic in every single aspect of our society. Its disturbing and worrying 😔
Resigned,but still on tenure and $900k salary a year
Exeter, Princeton, and Harvard. Gee, that used to sound impressive.
You are directly on the mark. Thank you for speaking out and holding on to excellent standards.
As a physicist who has published several papers, I have never once needed to copy and paste sentences and ideas. I had too much to say in my papers to need to do that. It shows me that she is probably intellectually shallow with not much to say.
I agree. I wouldn’t assume she plagiarized banal text out of laziness when it could be a lack of literary or overall intellectual incompetence.
I think the people tasked with selecting Gay as Harvard’s president are a greater and more interesting concern than Gay herself. Wouldn’t checking for plagiarism be one of their obvious due diligence duties?
Plagiarism exposes her poor character, lack of intellectual development and accomplishment, and is a widespread problem in academia that has caused great harm and embarrassment to many scholars and institutions. So the most interesting questions to me are:
Did the hiring committee review her work for plagiarism? Did they discover it? If so, was she chosen anyway? Why? Did DEI or other political, ideological, financial or other reasons supersede hiring a qualified president and Harvard’s reputation?
If she was hired despite awareness of her plagiarism, did they or others above the hirers (i.e., wealthy donors, WEF/other elites pushing NWO, DEI etc) direct that decision?
Checking for plagiarism is such an obvious step in selecting a Harvard president that I can’t believe they overlooked it. I can’t even assume that it wasn’t discovered. There are far, far, far too many examples of politics outweighing all else in today’s western culture and institutions to think otherwise. It is most definitely rampant in the US.
Students and some faculty UNDOUBTEDLY read the papers. But, in a world where pollution is offset by race obsession you can not criticize a well pigmented fast rising administrator due to a control file.... If in doubt take a look through Serge Lange's more controversial papers.
The whole idea is that (moral) function will follow (racial) form.
Students and some faculty UNDOUBTEDLY read the papers. But, in a world where pollution is offset by race obsession you can not criticize a well pigmented fast rising administrator due to a control file.... If in doubt take a look through Serge Lange's more controversial papers.
The whole idea is that (moral) function will follow (racial) form.
Students and some faculty UNDOUBTEDLY read the papers. But, in a world where pollution is offset by race obsession you can not criticize a well pigmented fast rising administrator due to a control file.... If in doubt take a look through Serge Lange's more controversial papers.
The whole idea is that (moral) function will follow (racial) form.
Students and some faculty UNDOUBTEDLY read the papers. But, in a world where pollution is offset by race obsession you can not criticize a well pigmented fast rising administrator due to a control file.... If in doubt take a look through Serge Lange's more controversial papers.
The whole idea is that (moral) function will follow (racial) form.
Sad America would ever condone any kind of plagiarism!!
I think plagiarism is more prevalent than one would acknowledge. In Vinay's own field, "science," it is a chronic problem. It is now an open secret that most of the so-called journal articles published in prestigious journals have been ghost written. It was also alleged that Dr. Fauci does steal people's work, during his tenure at the prestigious CDC. I am against plagiarism. However, if an investigation were to be done today on all faculty members, across US universities, one would be surprised at the number of persons who would be guilty of the same. Not a fan of Claudine Gay, but as one who has worked at the university level, I am cognizant of the high level of hypocrisy that exists at that level.
Lol it happens all of the time.
What is going on at harvard demonstrates the systemic Rot in all of our society today.😢
You are baffled at how she got where she is despite her lack of credibility? Come on, you know...
I am not sure he knows obvious things though. Hence, why he can't see the obvious parallel between his Stanford cutout and the Harvard cutout.
DEI and A/A helped majority white women so don’t be surprised when some of us are surprised a woman of color benefited from it.
I know why she was hired and I’m not a brilliant scholar.
Lesbeeun and blat.
Plagarism is BY FAR the least fascinating aspect of this story.
Justice for Roland Fryer !
It's fascinating to me that she plagarized acknowledgements.
However, the plagiarism is objective evidence that D.E.I. frequently results in unqualified and unethical people in positions of power.
It may be the least fascinating, however it is the most revealing(& important) as it exposes the nature of this woman and the systemic rot within Harvard and those who hired and accended this women to any position but especially its pinnacle leadership role as president of the university.
@__-xq9gp ehh. Plagarism was just a blunt tool. The real issues at play are too spicy to even mention.
This was politics. They all knew about the plagiarism for a long time.
And isn't that THE problem? That she got this far, (for SOME reason) while being a regognized plagiarist?! And a minimally published one at that!
So what if it was politics, a barnacle was removed and now it has exposed all those who would look the other way of it suits their agenda.
I don't care if the antisemitism was what brought her undone, or if it was happy coincidence, she had no business being in that position.
I had a classmate expelled from nursing school for plagiarism and this was at a local junior college. I thought these big universities would be held to at least basic standards.
I have been listening to dr prasad for years he makes a lot of sense and is very intelligent I am not a college educated guy but I recognize and respect good common sense and intelligent people so my hat goes off to you sir.
People want diversity and not the truth. You can replace with diversity with any other word to make sense of what it is.
Diversity of thought is valuable. Combined with NOT knowing race, sex, economic status is extremely valuable. Intelligent folks from different backgrounds have amazing insights.
STOP LOOKING AT IMMUTABLE CHARACTERISTICS
I don't want DEI piloting my plane please. Thank you. 😉
@@dereksbooksFlying has never been safer
@@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108 For how long? What about surgeons? Would you rather a person chosen because they're a certain colour operate on you, or because they're the best person for the job?
@alunjones3860 Every year, the (ICAO) releases its global safety report. In its most recent iteration, findings showed that in 2022, the aviation industry saw a nearly 10% decrease in accidents compared to 2020-furthermore, fatalities resulting from aircraft accidents dropped by over 65%.
Interestingly, these numbers have fallen despite the number of scheduled flights increasing. The ICAO attributes the improvements in safety to the safety commitments shared across the industry. In fact - the trend across many years of aviation is that today, flying is safer than ever.
Every year, the (ICAO) releases its global safety report. In its most recent iteration, findings showed that in 2022, the aviation industry saw a nearly 10% decrease in accidents compared to 2020-furthermore, fatalities resulting from aircraft accidents dropped by over 65%.
Interestingly, these numbers have fallen despite the number of scheduled flights increasing. The ICAO attributes the improvements in safety to the safety commitments shared across the industry. In fact - the trend across many years of aviation is that today, flying is safer than ever.
Wow. I thought we're not supposed to be criticizing important black people. I deeply admire your willingness to speak the truth, sir. Thank you.
Its always different when the people at the top do it. From mcdonalds to walmart to harvard to the cdc to the pentagon
But she apologized so it's all good now. Oh she didn't? Or for her lack of supporting students threatened by other students? Oh, it's racist to suggest she did something any one else would be kicked out of school for? But , but, diversity! All sarcasm aside, thanks for your truthful take on the matter.
I'm nowhere near being an academic, but when you said she only published 11 papers, I was shocked. It's been a really long time since I had anything to do with academia, but I do recall being counseled by my only actual Communist professor to write a lot, just write anything, and plug in the sources afterwards. It doesn't even matter if the sources cover what I write about in any given paper. I didn't do it because if education is bull excrement, then let the bulls have at it. And he didn't advise me to plagiarize!
My favorite professor said the only thing we have is our words. Fake those words, and get failed, permanent F and everything.
She was really, really cute. The only moments she was scary was in her little pitch at the beginning of every semester: "Do this and you get a permanent F and reported to academic integrity. I am not joking. I do this every year."
Not that I was scared, of course: I like words and literally can't imagine using other people's words. I don't mind doing a lit review, but I was always keen to get on to model formulation and analysis.
This cute professor had to have been burnt by someone else’s plagiarism.
Good for her.
And good for you to have been exposed to the demands and challenges of academic writing . 🧠🔍🤓🔬📚💪👩🏻🎓
I appreciate your honesty and your support of real research
Terrific - Thank you for your honesty! so refreshing.
This is not the first time for high ranking Harvard personnel to be caught plagiarizing their work. There was the head of the behavioral science dept. who just resigned. Yes, I agree this is the President of Harvard and everyone so protected the plagiarist is outrageous! Harvard seems thoroughly infected and has lost a great deal of respect. Thanks.
The university system is not going to recover.
Quite like medicine when they lied about the Covid vaccine.
Interesting to have you weigh in on this. I appreciate your opinions and many facts.
Vinay, you are brilliant!
You're a breath of fresh air. ♡
Writing documents a person's thought process. That's why using your own words matters. Intellectual honesty is not trivial in a university.
I saw an interviewee on the Spectator channel saying that, before Christopher Rufo revealed it, the plagiarism was already known about and mentioned anonymously by staff members, but people were reluctant to publish due to threats of legal action and/or loss of career.
“What can I say that hasn’t already been said?”
-Claudine Gay
Was her resignation letter checked for plagiarism?
This wins the Internet today.
The fact that she only resigned because of her atrocious record of plagiarism and not for her refusal to condemn genocidal hate speech against Jews on her campus says everything about Harvard and many other universities in the USA.
The real disgrace goes to the people who hired her.
The fact that she also refused to acknowledge the hypocrisy of the American government on geopolitical issues is insane.
She plagiarized BECAUSE SHE WASN'T QUALIFIED!!!
I retired from the military at 50 and went to law school. One of our requirements was to write a "long paper" (20-30 pages depending on requirements) - and when I turned in my initial draft to my advisor he sent it back saying "I can't finish reviewing this, it's full of plagiarism"
I had copied parts of paragraphs, but I had attributed them and had incorporated them into the point I was making. What I found out was that EVERY SENTENCE has to be attributed, every part you copy, every part you use the gist of their words, every idea that you don't SIGNIFIGANTLY re-write must be attributed.
I had no idea - and luckily my advisor knew I had made an HONEST mistake - but honest mistake or not, it was plagiarism. Not coming from a rigorous academic background I honestly did not know. He, and our AWESOME library staff (gotta give props to awesome library staff!) helped me recognize my mistakes and helped me re-write my paper.
MY POINT: Plagiarism is a very rigorous standard and therefore a serious charge in academia. I went to a state run "not impressive" law school - certainly not a T-14 law school - and "even there" the standards for what is and what is not plagiarism was **very** strict.
Fantastic analysis
Love your honesty Vinay ❤.
Bill Ackman was the one to follow on all this. He, along with Chris Ruffo, exposed this crap wide open and they even went after Bill’s wife for doing so and he stomped that out too.
Thank you for this talk. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Claudine abused her privilege.
even during her testimony to congress she was simply repeating what the president of penn state was saying "context".
We are blessed that you are a fountain of ideas and thoughts and share them with your audience. Thanks
This man's narrative delivery is the style of explanation that someone with my level of intellect needs to get a point. Thank you, Vinay!
“It took so long to find the plagiarism because nobody was reading her papers.” Absolute slam dunk. Fatality.
Extension schools are a great opportunity to open up educational opportunities beyond just those few selected students that get accepted into Havard Collage or graduate schools. What’s needed is not to restrict admissions to the extension school but to uphold high standards to earn certificates and diplomas.
Exactly! I ended up not being able to even take advantage of the newly-opened extension school in my hometown, but I do know that the admissions standards were equal to those for the main campus in Ann Arbor.
So many people cheat to get through school it's crazy I've seen it over and over again and it makes me sad
I'm a self admitted degenerate and cheating never even cross my mind.
Don’t be sad. Get mad. And catch them.
Yup. I’m currently a student at a community college, and the amount of cheating going on is absolutely batshit insane. Last semester, I took a history class online wherein we had to write a historical analysis of something.
I chose a rather obscure topic to analyze (because I wanted my work to be as unique as possible), and my prof was very impressed with my work. In that same class, the prof had to send out a class-wide email stating, “I have already caught several of you blatantly plagiarizing your work… if any of these issues show up on your final submission, you will get an F and be referred to the Dean per our college’s plagiarism policies.”
Plus, a lot of my peers are using ChatGPT and Grammarly to write their shit for them, which is also considered academic dishonesty. And don’t get me started on how many people have been using Chegg and other apps on their phone to solve math equations for them on take-home exams.
Love your sense of humor💯
Thank you so much for what you do🙏🏿🙏🏿
Love your honesty and integrity....we as a world have moved into lie to get what you want no matter what...............all trust is gone in most institutions..........thank you for your decency
Oh dear, this is truly disgraceful. 😒
It's called the WOKEism ticket if you're accepted to the club
This is the most illuminating commentary I have seen on this topic, among many things written. Thank you Dr Prasad. We learn and borrow a little from each other and produce transformative works; that's not plagiarism. Wholesale copying is theft.
Thanks Doc. Clarity and concision as always.
It’s NOT about liking her, and you know it! You and I know what it’s about!!!! Color!
It would be one thing if it was a simple situation where a citation or quote marks were missing, but this situation seems more like trying to cheat by passing other people's thoughts as your own. And there is a clear pattern and not just a one time mistake
I know how this feels on the other end to have your work taken without being given credit. There was a writer I respected. She wrote for the popular press and so did I. I had recommended her books to people. I remember seeing her interviewed and the interviewer was praising her and asking her how she could keep up with her schedule at her age with all the conferences and writing a new book every other month. She just laughed and took the compliment. I was excited to buy one of her books that was new that month of the interview. I also wondered how she could write so many books so quickly. Then, in her new book, I began reading words I recognized. One paragraph, two paragraphs, three paragraphs and more. I recognized those words well, because they were my words. I could hardly believe what I was seeing. I got the book off my shelf I had written just a couple of years before, and there were my exact words in her book, word for word, paragraph after paragraph.
She never asked me for permission to use my work, and never gave me credit. She had copied far beyond what is allowed even when a writer obtains proper permission and gives the author proper credit for directly quoting them. This author with sticky fingers had a significant following, her own publishing company and she is lauded to this day as so smart, talented and wise. Maybe she got tired, greedy or she just got lazy and found out she could get away with it, and her followers who were so in awe of her would never notice. So, that was how she was publishing book after book so quickly at her age. She was literally copying and pasting significant amounts of other people's work as her own. That is common thievery. I wrote her publishing company, but she died just a few months later, so I never received a response. She is held in high esteem by many of her followers to this day. They have no clue, or if they do, they don't care.
....and those people should feel robbed by her. If she hasn't an original thought in her head and used others thoughts as her own, then she's not fit for office.
@@anneteller3128 wow! What a devastating blow from someone you looked up to, and then discovered a darker reality 😞
Thank you for posting this.
I am rather new to you ; I can say you have sealed your fate with me - I'll be paying a great deal of attention to future presentations here because I just love the way you presented your case, your ideas in this matter. Thank you.
I appreciate all of your commentaries. Yes “they Debased Harvard”. I’m sure it is more commonplace than we think. (I have worked in academia- i never opened any closet!). Best, Monica.
But … did you smell the stench?
The issue isnt about commonality, no question about this.. but mastery..
Plagiarizing your thesis acknowledgements to your own family is nuts.
Crazy. I actually love writing papers in my own words. Sighting something and writting in your own words, sometimes explaining things better than what was sighted... such an empowering achievement.
Like you say, "Lazy"
Thrilled for your patients to have a smart guy who critically thinks through this world ad can freely offer thoughts with reason and truth.
I spent 15 years in academia, as staff, but enjoyed a huge part of it, helping faculty and students do big things can be intoxicating. I did however get tired of the way staff are treated, especially when they kill a retirement plan, stop raises and push more healthcare cost onto them. This whole raising tuition 7% annually and bragging about a multi-billion dollar endowment, so, I left 6 years ago for the private sector. There are days in which I want to go back, to get out of the corporate rat race, and go do something with meaning (instead of purely for profits), then things like this happen.
I can eat a lot of morals to avoid that.
And …. Harvard is still a private entity, no matter how academic
There is something special about your PhD thesis .. its a solo author publication that documents your first major research foray and marks your entry into the highest academic order .. cheating on that is especially shameful imo.
Thanks for not going easy on this VP, if we can't hold our academics to high standards how can we NOT lose faith in those institutions?
Someone with principles. And integrity. And common sense.
Dear Dr., this is my first video here. I'm very pleased with how you covered it and even more pleased that you covered it 😊We need more academics, women and people of color speaking up!!
High school students get held to higher standards than her, why should she get a free pass when we don't?. The message about academics debating is so crucial to keep education turning into indoctrination too. I enjoyed really this video.
Can you please compare Havvad extension school courses to their on campus courses? Like may be the courses you teach or freshman year courses? I'm very curious how they compare.
Thank you ❤
P.S: Sorry for any typos, dumbtube keeps suppressing my comments 🤦🏻♀
Harvard or any of the ivy or "elite" schools. I've taken notice at what they're doing. When my son is old enough to go to college, they are not in consideration of any of my money. I will not help him to pay t tuition of these places
I'll tell you one thing. Christopher Rufo is absolutely more intelligent than Claudine Gay.
The comparison is almost offensive
Now I'm not surprised why current scientist level is lowering so much.
Hi Vinay, I have watched and enjoyed so many of your videos for the last few years and become so familiar with the way you speak and your obvious interest in truth. I feel as if I actually know you.
That might not sound like much but because I have developed a highly critical attitude to what I consider to be knowledge and what is just froth and fantasy, it means more than you might think!.
For many decades now I have been aware of the extent to which all institutions created by people for any specific purpose suffer the same inevitable decline in authenticity and credibility. During the inception and establishment phase most recruits to the organisation will be genuinely motivated by the purpose of the thing, but after a while more and more join because they want to be included in the organisation and will work to sustain the organisation and their own place in it, regardless of the primary purpose. I call this institutionalisation and it quite rapidly leads to increasing levels of corruption. This is very clearly what has happened there in the university education sector, education has become worse than secondary as the school's purpose, status of staff and security of tenure have taken over, this leaves the main contribution little more than just another indoctrination farm dedicated to nothing more than the perpetuation of the establishment.
At the same time more and more time and energy is expended in internal strife and power struggles.
While this is very clearly a major issue what I do not have is any clear method or idea about how to change things effectively. What is certain is that this status quo cannot endure!, it must either be left to fall apart or be replaced by something better or worse.
Cheers, Richard.
As is the case with many "scholarly experts", Larry Summers was often wrong, but never uncertain, and never held accountable. The best politicians get to the top in our society, not the best people in their field. It will be interesting to see what the AI's find after they read every word and check every reference in every paper ever published.
Well, it will take a lot more time for AI to investigate because any Harvard professor in the university's history wrote and published infinitely more than Claudine Gay did in a quarter-century.
When i was in high school, I did a research paper on whether Shakespeare plagiarized Sir Francis Bacon's work. The question was apparently settled a few years after my research (which i completed with appropriate attribution and footnotes 😉). I mention this because at least one or two people *have* read Shakespeare's "papers" as opposed to Claudine Gay's work.
Right on, brother!
Terrific presentation. and done extemporaneously. The Doctor has a big brain.
Shame on Harvard…
I literally have two random friends at Universiteit Groningen amd Utrecht that have written more than 11 papers, wtf...
Imagine having a Harvard degree. If you thought recent yearsnof inflation were bad, wait until you see the devaluation of a Harvard degree
Oh, Dr. Prasad - another brilliant analysis. Can’t tell you how much I’ve enjoyed your unerring ability to cut straight to the heart and truth of important topics. Watching this, I’ve actually laughed as I’ve realized that as a reasonably intelligent 63 yo white, married female with a Master’s Degree in Nursing from Duke University - I am the one who has been left behind (kidding/not kidding). I’ve actually published 2 articles in my career - sounds pathetic, but it’s 18% the amount Dr. Gay has! And I sure never ran anything but my trauma program (which is top-notch!) And never had a thought or the carelessness to plagiarize - including the painful number of papers required to receive my MSN. This just boggles the mind. Really makes one wonder what we would find if we lifted the veil of sacred academia throughout our system. Keep sharing your arrows of truth. We need it now more than ever.
"I began my education at a very early age; in fact, right after I left college." -- Winston Churchill
Another item that I would point out in academics is that with the "publish or parish" incentive, then professors get judged by how many papers they author. Prasad even pointed out how many more papers he had published, but it speaks nothing of their significant.
Unfortunately, this limits the amount of really groundbreaking ideas that usually take a long time to research. If the amount of research that's published the measure of a person's academic reputation, then people like Galileo, Newton, Darwin, Adam Smith and others would never make it today's world. Prasad even pointed out how many more papers he had published, but it speaks nothing of their significant.
By the way I still agree Prasad's assessment that Claudine Gay papers were rather thin to begin with.
as a Yalie, I completely concur that Harvard sucks
Didn’t the Yale president also resign?
To the Marxist it's not plagiarism; it's a demonstrating of loyalty to the cult.
😮 what does Marxism have to do with plagiarism? Please expound on your new found discovery!
@@stenyethanmathews945you could listen to G. Edward Griffin about that. Have you ever listened to him?
@@stenyethanmathews945 The plagiarism pretext is only as a way to get rid of her, because of her Leftist politics are losing Harvard money over a billion dollars. The reason she's at the Congressional hearing in the first place is over her gaslighting lack of protection of Jews on campus as she favors the Hamas side because it aligns with Marxist oppression narratives--the only real reason you even hear about those protests at all. Her heavy sympathy for DEI which is 100% pure Marxist power critique ala racialism, has driven her scholarship, defines her, and ESG for that matter.
Love Vinay...
I know how this feels on the other end to have your work taken without being given credit. There was a writer I respected. She wrote for the popular press and so did I. I had recommended her books to people. I remember seeing her interviewed and the interviewer was praising her and asking her how she could keep up with her schedule at her age with all the conferences and writing a new book every other month. She just laughed and took the compliment. I was excited to buy one of her books that was new that month of the interview. I wondered too how she could write so many books so quickly. Then, in her new book, I began reading words I recognized-- one paragraph, two paragraphs, three paragraphs and more. I recognized those words well, because they were my words. I could hardly believe what I was seeing. I got the book off my shelf I had written just a couple of years before, and there were my exact words in her book, word for word, paragraph after paragraph.
She never asked me for permission to use my work, and never gave me credit. She had copied far beyond what is allowed even when a writer obtains proper permission and gives the author proper credit for directly quoting them. The author with sticky fingers had a significant following, her own publishing company and she is lauded to this day as so smart, talented and wise. Maybe she got tired, greedy or she just got lazy and found out she could get away with it, and her followers who were so in awe of her would never notice. So, that was how she was publishing book after book so quickly at her age. She was literally copying and pasting significant amounts of other people's work as her own. This is common thievery. I wrote her publishing company, but she died just a few months later, so I never received a response. She is held in high esteem by many of her followers to this day. They have no clue, or if they do, they don't care.
From a published book? Is there some reason you did not notify your publisher or consult a lawyer?