Yeah, not sure where I heard this somewhere, but a phrase that has stuck with me is: _"Those people are assholes. Why do you _*_want_*_ their approval?"_
The thing about bullying is that no one, NO ONE actually benefits from it. You'll always hear bullies say "he should have been bullied more, that way he would be stronger", but that's a lie, a faulty rationalization to justify their own aggressive, evil thoughts. The sensitive people that get bullied get crushed by it, they lose self esteem and become weaker or jaded as a result. The bullies learn that, until they victimize someone weaker, they'll be seen as the strong, cool people that no one wants to mess with, teaching them that victimizing the weak will always be the best choice. And every bystander learns that, until there's someone weaker that gets victimized, they don't have to fear being victimized themselves, so they'll actively defend systems that advantage them while beating down others. Bullying is an evil, evil thing that reflects the worst parts of our society.
Being jaded is being stronger, it allows you to stop caring because the reality is that caring doesn’t matter and your happiness definitely doesn’t when you take into account how the world works. The simple fact is you can’t change the system so the best thing you can do is use it to your own advantage the best you can
@@guyferrari8124 And that's exactly the "worst part of society" I was talking about. Being strong, in a social species like ours, should mean that you're more well equipped to protect your group, not just yourself, and a strong group is one where the strong individuals protect the weak ones. A group where there are only strong individuals becomes destructive and invasive, and it's an evolutionary failure. Your mentality is unnatural and damaging, and it will find support only in other sad, lonely people who are resentful of everyone else.
We had a bully in our class from year 1 to year 9 who basically picked on anyone he thought weaker than himself. The more "different" he thought you were from himself, the more he'd pick on you. I wasn't always the center of his attention, but from time to time I'd say something in class or be at the wrong place at the wrong time and then I'd be screwed. Once you got his attention he'd stick with you for weeks. One of the best parts of finally getting out of school was never having to see him again. Later, as the years passed, I found that my thoughts would return to him and be along the lines of "I hope he understands what his younger self did, then grows and becomes a kinder person - maybe we could talk and sort all of this old baggage out, and perhaps we'd both feel better". He never had time to. But I do wave at him every time I go and see my parents grave, at the graveyard back in my old hometown. He's just down the row from them.
You got me incredibly curious about your bully's fate. Did he peaked at highschool and drowned himself in the vices? Did he picked up a match he wasn't meant to pick and paid the ultimate price? Was it some kind of cosmic karma that abruptly ended his misery or was it something? Please, i need to know.
@@goodboy9318 After school I (for obvious reasons) lost track of what he was up to in detail. But as this is a very small town, gossip found its way back home to my family. His dad died at some point around 2000 - 2001 I believe. Basically drank himself to death. Then in 2005 his sister stabbed two women in the throat (only one survived) and got sent to jail. In 2008 he got beaten so badly by a "friend" after some sort of dispute, that he died from his injuries. The place he died was near the outdoors arena in our town where we did outdoor sports in school. He once hit me with his moped there. I think his mom might still be alive, but I'm not sure. But yeah, that's more or less it. Life's weird.
Glad I’m not the only one who thinks about all the poor background characters who mercilessly died in Atlantis the Lost Empire. Especially that guy in the Submarine!
Atlantis is like the only Disney movie where countless people die on screen in the very first scene. I still think of those people who slammed their speeders into the force field.
@@maidenreligion12As for the Atlantis expedition crew members that died I feel sorry for them but at the same time those people dying early on probably made things easier for Milo and the other protagonists in the climax not to say every member of the crew were entirely bad people but just didn't know what they were a part of.
I think what adds to the weight of it is they actually stop to acknowledge it. So often in movies with a big action scene and the heroes all scrambling to survive before defeating the monster or the villain, it will either end with some big celebration they did it or will have something new come up to transition so the plot can move forward like "oh dang, we did it! Whoo hoo! But wait, the structure is collapsing so go back to panicking!" Or just have the realization one of the mains is injured and the screen fades to black before we see them settled in at a new location. Atlantis however shows the remaining crew doing a funeral, placing little "boats" in the water and Roarke saying a few words for the fallen before they move on. You see the somber faces of our heroes realizing there has been a cost in getting this far and they're taking this mission more seriously. At least until they actually find the city and everything is now filled with wonder again. These may have been nameless background characters but they clearly meant something to the heroes.
@@Kahtisemoit wierded me out in that moment that from submarine alive got out only main lifeboat (like, house sized), and couple of small ones (car sized). But then in final battle there are, like, 60 men with planes and cars and giant balloon (also, what they were supposed to do on it, Atlantis is in the giant cave on bottom of ocean, blown up ceiling will drown all characters with Kirk himself). From where they all came from.
I love how this channel is a combination light ARG and commentary. It really makes you love Valentino and the characters and want to watch solely for more context on his life. The wonderful art, vocal personality, and discussions are the icing on the cake. It's truly one of a kind!
Valentino combines (what I'm guessing is) his real experiences in life with his digital characters experiences. He talks about his experience with school and isolation before transitioning into his eyes turning yellow, signifying that something caused him to change forms. I think the confusion is that it's not a normal ARG with puzzles and hidden websites. But this doesn't exclude it from being an ARG, "Alternative reality game", it's about it being from a different universe that's very similar and/or includes real world elements while adding a narrative twist. Hope that helps. 🙂
@@OurTime. I feel like the term has been pretty saturated by all the other ARGs, that confusion rises. It's like SMP with Minecraft. Any time you say it these days, no one thinks Survival MultiPlayer, they think of what Dream and whatnot did.
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@@OurTime. Where is the interactive aspect to that? Not every mystery narrative is automatically an ARG.
I would say the interactive element is watching the videos and making guesses on the story elements, but I can definitely see that being a little weak. Honestly I used ARG because I couldn't think of something better. 🤷♂️
7:00 This was me. I'm 41 and I still have the scars from the compasses. Children are vicious, far more than any adult is willing to believe they are. I wish I could say I was able to brush it off like you did. I didn't survive my childhood intact. Thank you for sharing this. I'm sure it wasn't easy for you.
War of Pigs is a Korean movie about this where two children get close to a broken child an years later both now adults are traumatized by it an make horrible choices due to that emotional instability the final line is so cold "This is where the icy cold asphalt and even colder bodies tumble about together this place called the world"
@senritsujumpsuit6021 It's cool, that's also one of my fave series b/c of hard hitting it is. I appreciate it when creators base their works on their lives, it's a very profound yet brutal life story ( ´-｀)
As a Neurodivergent, i was bullied in school. It was mostly over stupid stuff, like calling me names because of where i was born, or because i had to wear glasses. One time i thought maybe i could utilize what scared me aganst them, and learned how to growl like a dog. It didn't work as planned, but now i can mimic many animals and make different voices on a whim. There's always a bright side if you look for it, coming from a goblin like me.
I can related to so much about feeling bad about random background characters dying. For me its even worse, feeling bad when straight up villians who totally deserve it die. This affects me for real people too. I also find deaths that dont leave perfect corpses like explosions, dismemberment, and vaporization somehow "worse" than normal deaths. Im 18 and i still have this
Yeah, I get that last part too. The earliest time I can remember of it was watching Mars Attacks as a kid, and the thought of being instantly reduced to a charred unidentifiable skeleton still freaks me out today. Same for any vaporization/disintegration/whatever else, despite technically being more 'screen friendly'. Just being GONE like that is somehow scarier than being a dead guy on the floor.
You make me realize, I need to find a story where there's a moral of "Some societies aren't worth fitting in to" as I've kinda thought that "You shouldn't be trying to fit into a place that rejects you for no reason, but one that would want you." I have a comic I've writing and struggling to illustrate the first book of it right now, where there's a bit of that going on. We got some chicken little likeness going on, every individual is genuinely awful, and I mean awful, every faction is genuinely evil where destroying it or the leader would only replace it with something or someone that is exactly the same as the last one, with said person starting at "this is why this is evil" to "well see it's only reasonable" once it's in charge. I choose it specifically to invoke that feeling of "I don't care what happens to these people" especially since our protagonists are mercs, which means a lot of death will happen and I'm a little done with the "Make someone sympathetic last second before killing them" joke, for several reasons personal and storytelling wise. But one of our protagonists, she is beyond insecure and we find out why easily, in the comic I'm working on actually, you find out right away she's being held captive because when it came to sacrifice one their tribe or be obliterated, they already had someone in mind and gave her up with a comedic lack of hesitation, even her own parents, who mind you where the leaders. She spent years doing kinda what got described in the video, trying to fit in, tried to reach the exact expectations, but when tested, they made it clear they thought she meant nothing. After seeing how badly rejection got her, the fear and danger it caused, she constantly spends the series to fit in, but no one actually ever cared, except one... our other protagonist he not only literally saved her life, but very I guess 'spiritual level' too, he allowed her to come with him, genuinely had a interest in her own well being, and overall gave her the ability to be her, to fit in. He had the ability to fit in with multiple groups, but never did, he was always happy to do the things he'd do, he had the strength a lot of other don't: the ability to reject being accepted. He knows this universe, he's a freelacing Conflict Resolution Specialist, he knows the crap it does. Rejection means he could stick to his morals, as you learn when you need to fit in someone else chooses your morals. And only after she see's this about him, and is able to let go trying to be accepted, she can realize she can accept herself and see that there are others who do too. So you know, only a little bit of the concept of "Sometimes its better to not try to fit in"
I recall a flash game I played when I was younger: Loondon. Yes, the name is on the nose. Long and short, it's about a guy at a Victorian/Edwardian Freak Show Carnival who leaves his friends to go and search for the "happiness" promised in an advert to move to the city of Loondon. Problem is, this guy looks like the Hunchback of Notre Dame, and from the street to the church, everyone from peasant to priest insults and belittles him, save two: a dapper gentleman and a poor old man who treat him with kindness and respect. At one point, he notices a women trying to "discipline" a child to death and tries to stop it, only for someone to come in and see both child and woman dead (the latter being an accident)...and well you get the idea. He escapes with the help of the gentleman, who's revealed to be an angel come to judge the city, but the fellow remembers the one guy who showed him kindness, and pleads for his sake. He even goes back to face the mob (I don't remember why that was necessary), and while the angel allows this, he ends the story with a promise that Loondon's time is short: judgement stalled, but not stopped.
I get the impression from his community tab that he regularly gets anxiety over delayed video production due to being a bit scatter brained. Personally, I think it requires exactly that kind of brain to produce something this creative.
After reading your comment a picture of a black guy standing in front of a car while doing this 🙏 💯 and looking to his left immediately came to my mind
I spent most of my first viewing of the 80s Transformers movie crying for everyone on Lithone or wishing I could save the ones who fell in the acid vat
When I was little, I always cried when Bilbo decided to go off with the elves to pass with them. But I cried for Shelob, I cried for the orcs, I cried for the Uruk'ai. to me, Lord of the rings was a series of books that taught that war is always sought by those with the least to lose and fought by those with the most. The fact that the orcs were hungry for meat on the menu told me that they were malnourished, they were a culture that valued sustenance and eating as a bonding ritual, these were people made to fight with no option, some even genuinely being born simply to die in war. 1:49
Dude everything you said applies to me. I was born Autistic and i never really had much friends but i never got physically tortured, instead i was ignored by everyone. I had a best friend who actually cared about me and talked with me everyday until he went to jail in the summer. In High School, i was still ignored by everyone and became a laughing stock(Especially in my Freshmen Year) and all i could do is sit by myself in silent. 500 students and no one cared about me, not even the teachers cared the slightest about me. The onky thing me and you differ is that you were popular once, i however was never popular and was the bottom of the barell. Emo Kids hated me, The Nerds hated me, The Popular Kids used me as a joke, i am now depressed and on medication and thanks for your video, it really made my day :)
@@drhamsterviel1 why too late, you still alive. Maybe consider therapy, ppl who seek outside validation often ignore the reason why they do so ( i.e. repressed trauma and that don't need to be the severe one really). It's never too late to start feeling happy with oneself. And if you really missing ppl, well there a lot of neutodiverse ppl support groups, forums if you feel like being autistic is the problem, or maybe find friends through hobby or interests. It's hard to find someone who would care care but the more ppl you know the bigger chance for it.. aaaand at worse you'll learn some social skills (or at least emulate) which helps in day to day life
@@CatastrophesheBut that's the thing, if you don't have any friends, the only real socializing you get is from random kids, teachers, and your parents. And when people ignore you, when you are treated that way by your classmates, it can really easily succeed at making you feel less than human. having nothing to look forward to about going to school because your teacher barely remembers your name and there's nobody there to talk to you about anything you care about, it can make carrying on really difficult for a child. there's a reason that the suicide is one of the leading causes of mortality for children in America. because alienation and ostracization can inspire horrible, horrible things.
Yeah. I don't think it is really a _bad_ movie, but it just isn't a _Disney_ movie. From nearly any other studio doing CG movies at the time it would have been a solid outing with a somewhat muddled message.
I remember when i was in grade school and i always felt a disconnect between myself and everyone else. i observed others being happy and having fun and i tried replicating their behavior but it always felt hollow and never made me happy. so i became content with merely observing them. i was very nice and never realy interacted with others so i was very rarely bullied, only as "there is no one else to bully" and i never externally reacted to their meanness so they lost interest. i never had any friends until late fourth grade and probably never would have if others didn't find me. like a stone in the tide, algae and debris of people who could not flow with the tide stuck around me. people who didn't fit the educational or societal molds and general outcasts took shelter in my niceness and tolerance and interest of whatever strangeness of thought or ideas they had and they respected and were entertained by my own. in middle school we were more solidified as a friend group and we collected more outcasts of outcasts many came and went as they lost and refound the flow and some stayed. but i was always there, happy to listen to and share atypical ideas and dreams. i find it funny how far outcast we were, we were separate from the groups that called themselves outcasts like the nerds, theater kids, band kids, the emo, and goth groups. many came and returned from those groups but i and some others were never able to fit into those either. i like to believe that i had a positive impact on those who bumped into me as the tide flows. it brings me great joy to be called by two completely separate people years apart that i should be a sage. sorry for my random ramblings on a small video by someone who more should see in a comment section no one will read but i felt nice to talk about my past in a positive light i haven't saw much before. i feel now i have come far from the darkness of my more recent past. i feel positive. thank you for inspiring these thoughts in my head, Valentino. i hope to see more from you when you feel to. good wellness out there.
Well, I did read. Thanks for sharing your words, I can relate to a lot of things you said. And I hope both me and you can keep on feeling better and content with our lives!
Damn, the real title should be “How to feel empathy for a poor unfortunate soul in 8 minutes and 8 seconds.” I feel so sorry for your past, and hope things have improved for you since those darker times.
I also found myself feeling bad for random animated characters as a kid. Sometimes even thinking about it long after the movie ended and thinking about that instead of the main part of the movie. Some specific examples coming to mind is a butterfly getting turn to gold in a King Midas animation.
2:48 finally someone else gets it, I too would notice things like that in shows. even as a young kid I would feel bad for squidward when his dreams got ruined or shut down. And I can never watch family guy because I’d be too busy trying not add a hole in a wall out of sheer rage for how everyone treats Meg. Even though I was told that I’m taking things too seriously, and it’s just a joke, well jokes are supposed to be funny and seeing people being misstated and abused isn’t
This spoke to me on an extremely personal level, while some parts are different, the end point and some of the minor details hit home in a deep but good way of showing me that I’m not the only person to have gone through this in life. This made me feel like a weight I didn’t even know was there is now gone. Thank you.
Assuming a right triangle, despite the missing angle indicator. a^2 + b^2 = c^2 12^2 + 16^2 = x^2 144 + 256 = x^2 400 = x^2 400^(1/2) = x 20 = x x = 20cm This also follows the 3:4:5 pattern, which is neat.
I love the way you're mixing your own life with this fictional character as well as this commentary on movies. This is exactly the thing that has drawn me to you in the first place and has kept me as a fan. I can't imagine all the stuff you went through in school, just know that we'll be here cheering you on now. Keep up the good work!
This video reminds me of a quote "nobody not a signal person dead or alive famous or obscure has there shit together the same fears you have they have and the only difference between people is how much of there flaws the show to the rest of the world"- I forgot who made this quote
For the first time that I have ever watched a video, I've watched your's in the same way that I'd listen to a song. Every word you spoke, dripped with Emotions. Sorrow, Empathy, Truth... You remember your past. Good. Don't ever let those memories go. Forgetting them, won't make the Pain go away... It will just make you wonder where it came from.
Cartoon Network used to air "Tom and Jerry, the Fast and the Furry" religiously back in the day. I felt awful for the other racers that died (yes, died) throughout the movie. Especially the soccer mom. She was just some nice lady with bad OnStar service. 😢
Always great to see a new video. Will update after I watched it. Edit: I feel so strange. Everyone always talks about their experience in school and the bullies but I feel like I've never really seen bullies in the schools I've gone to...
@@oiitsoranglee That's fair, perhaps it was in other grades. But even the popular kids seemed like chill guys. But yea, I guess it may have been possible I simply never saw it.
@@ValenWarden just came back to say that i'm not trying to blame you or something just that sometimes bullies are more secretive, especially from people who would try and stop them. but yeah
It’s always such a pleasure to get any kind if vid from you, they’re always so entertaining~ As for the movie…. A bit sad that the mains thing I remember from this movie ended up being: Outside of his friends, everyone basically hated Chicken Little for… i don’t even remember why Bad parenting, bad parenting everywhere The messed up end for Foxy(where are her parents??) And my uncomfortable yet thankfully short lived crush on Abby Good lord, what a movie🙄
The Video Title: Chicken Little, Empathy and Bullying What the title should be: Chicken Little & how it triggers Valentinos' childhood trauma Jokes aside, I'm not sure if that was just stuff that happened to your AVATAR or to YOU, but you have my condolences if it's the latter
I also used to overthink the seemingly subtle/ or one-off deaths in films when I was little. Had to shut off “Jurassic Park” because the lawyer “could’ve lived a happy life” 😢😂 Literal tears, but not the most fair comparison to “chicken little,” as JP is PG-13.
i'm so glad your still slowing working of such quality work i found this channel a few months ago and binged every vidoe in 1 night and got worried that such a creative channel just ran it's course unseen bu the masses
I love this channel so much, and Valentino even more. Valentino the character. Valentino the creator. There’s so much quality snd charm in everything you do. Though as someone who was literally suplexed with regularity in middle school, this hits different.
1:48 Up until maybe around Middle or High School age (I'm 34 currently), I also HATED scenes like this. I hated seeing people or animals die or seriously getting hurt in similar ways mentioned in the video. Hated hearing people scream in fear and agony. Even though I knew it's all just pretend, animated, or whatever. I even did not like the Emperor's New Groove spider scene despite it being played out as more humorous. Some of the worst ones I remember was the atomic bomb sequence in Terminator 2 and city attack in Independence Day. Yah, I know I was to young to see these movies, but that's what you get for having free access to these movies on VHS on the same shelf as Disney movies. Anyway, great video!
I didnt start to have that epiphany until my early 20s sadly. I just... Didnt understand people. After starting to learn average human psychology, instead of empathizing with it... I became a bit disgusted by it as it felt really NPC-like behavior to me. Amd I became disgusted with it in myself as well, as no human is truly free of things like cognitive heuristics and bias. After that though, I started curtailing attention seeking behavior, because I dont really want it anymore. And when I accidentally slip back into it, anything past small doses, and I regret it, because it is those behaviors which, filtered through someone who learned about the world obsessively, pisses people off and ironically causes any bullying or shunning of me. Nowadays I realize my school years would have been infinitely easier, had I just kept to myself, and not given a f@ck what my fellow NPCs think of me. I really appreciate your content Valentino. You may have been bullied as a child, and maybe even as an adult, but your unwavering commitment to your own individuality is what has allowed you to entertain thousands with your creativity, while those who bullied you perhaps often never touched very many people in any positive way as you have done. I only regret that RUclips often seems to actively bury your content, but... Who knows, maybe that's a necessary filter, as it seems to be mostly other outcasts who find and stick around to see you prosper. And, your channel grows in spite of that, which is a testament to how much quality you pack into each video. I wish this video in particular had been around for me 10 years ago, and, I think it'll help a lot of younger people now.
Well that's interesting. I thought people in this world were animal people like in Zootopia but apprently not. We see in the flashback that narrator was a human child in a human school. That just leaves me with even more questions about this world. Why is there this secret bunker with animal people? Who is in charge of this place? Who is in charge of them? Do humans still exist or is the animal person thing just for a small group hence why they are locked away? Curiouser and curiouser
The book he's reading at the end of the video says "Island of Lost Souls", which is also the name of the second, and tbh most well known adaptation of Island of Doctor Moreau. ...Which should pretty much explain everything.
2:05 that scene used to fuck me up as a child, interesting to know I’m not the only one that had that scene lodged in their childhood memory. My dad used to be into submarines a lot and would tell me stories about my great grandpa getting torpedoed in ww2 and watch Das Boot and stuff. I always thought about how horrible the man’s fate was.
your videos are beautiful they are honest in a way that it is hard to find it has a blinding sincerity. I find it horrible that you have gone through these moments, but that is what made you the person you are. Thank you for sharing this since I feel the same way with adults where everyone wants to seem in control but floundering like the rest of us. We are human every one of us and we can never escape that.
I’m so sorry for everything that you endured through your youth that NO person should have to endure. (It really is a crime that a lot of this horrible stuff that happens in school extends into the adult world in some ways too.) But seriously, what you described about how you were even belittled by your own teacher…That reminds me of that nasty teacher lady from the Jim Carrey Grinch movie, who laughed along with the class at the Grinch’s attempt at shaving his face! Like WTF?!
Think the main reason I liked this movie as a kid was simply because Chicken Little was also a badly bullied kid and I already dealt with alot of bullying when my ADHD symptoms started to be more visible and I eventually just started to become what id call a "school ghost" just someone whos kinda just there and rarely talking. Nowadays I realize how 2000's this movie was and how dumb some stuff was and even how stupid the bullying I got was. I still have a grudge on those who did that to me for so long but its not as bad, I simply wish they deal with more than usual inconveniences. Hell I even realized I had actually developed some level of trauma while watching a TV show and a bullying scene came up and I just started freaking out.
My god, HOW HAVE I MISSED THIS FOR NEARLY AN ENTIRE MONTH!? Great work as usual, man! This is a great cutaway from the main video that we're still greatly anticipating! Thanks for sharing this insight with us!
Ngl growing up, I just didn't care. I had a few friends but partly cause of having autism and struggling with social situations because of it for the longest time, and I always disliked the high school media and never cared for the high school tropes. Since I was little I wanted something with action or horror in it over teen drama. When I went through high school, I didn't go to prom or high school graduation. I just didn't see a point of fitting in, and I saved myself from a lot of the typical teen drama it wasn't drama free, but I would say I came out of high school better off without worrying about high school stuff going into adulthood. Then I joined the marines, and it felt more like high school then my time in high school.
I tend to forget that someone who is being a horrible has some kind of motive behind what they do. Feeling neglected, not meeting expectations, insecurity about their own appearance and or personality, and more im probably not thinking of. Humans are complicated and may simplify to understand(atleast I do) Nothing is black and white there are grey, red, yellow, and blue areas. (Red, blue, and yellow are primary colors which is why I mention those specifically) This is all my own opinion I encourage whoever is reading this to argue with or add to my thoughts.
Day by day and for each upload this channel's lore amazes me . Even if it gets changed or retconed sometimes it's still fun with thought put into it . I'll remind you that THIS IS A *COMMENTARY CHANNEL* . It isn't suppose to have such extra high quality ! I haven't even talked about the illustrations but hey I can't write a whole essay can I?
Strange. As someone who had very similar experiences with my peers as a child, and I believe is a bit older than BE, I can't say getting mocked for liking the Powerpuff Girls was ever one of those shared experiences. Powerpuff was so universally enjoyed amongst my age group that it was actually more likely you'd get made fun of for disliking the show ("not being secure in your masculinity" was a phrase I remember getting used in relation to people who said they didn't like it). Adults sometimes made snarky comments about it, but never the children.
This was a really interesting watch, I was wondering where your videos have gone and this notification brought me in and gave me an interesting insight onto how others were in similar situations (though not the same). - This was a good experimental and personal video you did, and the visuals help convey the words even more.
I'm new to this channel, ive seen lije 4 videos and i cannot tell you how invested i am in the Flow, and style of video you guys make, from the sketchy animated parts to the introspective stuff. Great job.
The worst is when people you think are friends turncoat on you. Been that way for years and I still have problems where I think friends are mad at me for maybe talking to them too much. In the context of Chicken Little, its one of those movies I think nobody thought of the way the townsfolk and other children acted until they grew up like openly. I remember feeling it was wrong without understanding the problem, because colorful entertainment. But then when you got life context and experience you realise oh shit the bullying in this movie is intense. On a writing scale, Something like that can work if its like a moral choice for the protagonist, Goosebumps Calling all Creeps comes to mind, where everyones pretty much an asshole to Ricky except for like 9ne other person, and by the end when he's in a position of some power to either stop the aliens or end the world, he chose the latter because, thats the power of that temptation. I don't think Chicken Little could empower a person to become a bully or strive to be "popular", but it's a scarring experience to anyone whos felt like the world is out to get them when they were young. It can feel a bit empowering to be the one person who knows something bad is happening and is in time proven right, but its not worth the stress of the experience especially after going through and witnessing similar life experience
Did you know they made a chicken little video game based on the fake in-universe movie from the end of the actual movie? What the hell is this movie i swear.
I came for the Chicken Little analysis, now I want more of Valentino's backstory. How did he go from human to bat? Was it magic or science that fueled that transformation?
Me to buddy. Though I never climbed my way up to the ranks to be part of the popular kids. Instead I got a therapist who made me feel worst by saying Pokemon was of the devil. One of the few good things in my life back then. I spent the vast majorities of my lunches eating a lone in school. Wish I had a book for a lot more of though. I remember racing leaves with my fingers, pretending they were boats. Electronics were not allowed during school hours back then. I did start to do a lot of reading though. I got into the Xanth series of books.
These stories are relatable, I did not go to school except for 6th grade and i didn't fit in too well there. I probably have Autism however I am not diagnosed. I grew up in the United States south and in a Christian family, I got bullied at church and at home. Thankfully physical violence was basically off the table at church, but at home my brother would be kinda hard on me. To this day sometimes when people walk towards me I get startled and I will flinch away or duck and cover my head. I basically used my brother as a crutch socially, I only really hung out with his friends and I would immitate his behaviour to fit it. He moved out in 2020, so that entire dynamic changed and I was no longer able to rely on that. The past few years I have learned to make friends online, and now I finally have a car and I am hoping to be able to try out those skills in the real world soon
Yeah chicken little was relatable to me not that my brain fully understood at the time. I m looking into getting an autism diagnosis later this year. After years I did eat lunch alone I was ostracised and made fun of not that much bullying just a sense of being unwelcome. Most teachers earlier in school would get frustrated with me for not understanding questions. I never joined a friend group but I would hear a lot of stuff they said about their friends and family and it was horrible as if no one could hear them, it made me not want to be friends with them.
That whole segment about seeing how the popular kids have their own insecurities and such, made me remember the main moment where I could to myself about them. Or more accurately smile to them being the laughing stock for me once. We got a school trip to the UK and part of that was also a P.E. segment about Rugby. Which is quite a rough sport, tackling and such. Now a friend of my and myself (I would say the nerds of the class) had some hobbies where we at least got used to some it. He did bootcamp and the scouting group where I was still active in gave me the fondness of game that also includes tackling people to lift them completely off the ground. So to see all the other boys, who most played foodball, being scared once we finally got to play a kind of rugby on a smaller field, was quite funny to me. I think only me and my friend have scored a point due to them throwing the ball immediately when they got it. I do kinda wonder where they are now, most of the bullying had stopped a few years before this, but it was still nice to have some kind of "payback"...
You have no idea how much I wish I could go back in time and show kid-me this video. Just found your channel, awesome stuff!! (also the cow woman and amphibian girl are very cute)
i literaly found this channel a couple of months ago, binged a bunch of the videos, subscribed, then completely forgot about it till this video came out. I'm glad I subscribed cus I really did enjoy your videos and I really like the way you think. like at 1:43
It's honestly kind of shocking just how much this reminds me of myself. I'm autistic and I was bullied a lot in school. I slowly built up a tiny circle of friends that I trusted but I was absolutely the target of a lot of horrible things because I was clearly different. I'd hyper fixate on things and get mocked for it, or I'd say one awkward thing and be reminded of it for months on end. The worst of which was a typical bully mocking me when my cat died. Whilst I did eventually start to come out of my shell in collage and university a part of me still remembers going through all that and I think that's why I still prefer to be alone a lot of the time. I still meet a lot of people I don't get on with and would rather just keep away from, some of which I'm unfortunately forced to interact with. That's not to say I'm entirely a lone wolf I have friends and even a partner but I personally don't feel the need to fit in with a crowd that would rather I wear a mask than actually be myself.
This has me think back to a video by Internet PItstop where he always loved playing card games with friends but spent years being something else even attacking his friend but once he switched back to his old ways the old friend never once wanted a apology just silently was happy to be together again this friend for all that time apart still rooted for him
Thankfully, in the cases of other Disney movies, while they do have their moments of some groups of people torturing the protagonists, at the least the movie has the good sense to recognize that these moments are wrong, and that the protagonist has to either A) find a place where they are accepted unconditionally for who they are, or B) prove their potential and who they really are to the rest of the world, in a way that helps everyone else see the error of their ways, rather than conforming to their standards or boost in their heinous egos. But even I’ve had my share of finding certain moments from Disney unusually disturbing and unsettling, even if the movies were overall better than ‘Chicken Little’. Like when Aladdin got clapped in irons and thrown into the sea, and only barely escaped death because he had the lamp with him to call for help from the Genie! I’ve spent a number of times thinking to myself that the Rasoul and the Guards should be sentenced to a lifetime of imprisonment for attempted (non-crime-related) murder; I didn’t care that Jafar ordered them to do it, they walked away from that seaside cliff SMILING AND CACKLING while Aladdin was dragged under!
I feel the same that you do. With those film scenes. Also, I feel the same way that you do. I wish I was a cartoon bird I feel like if I meet you in real life we be perfect friends
Another lesson that could be taken is you don't do the right thing for the sake of reward; just because the town was rude doesn't mean they deserve what happens to them or does it mean it would be okay for Chicken Little to not do something if he could. Will they be grateful that you helped them? Probably not, but you don't do the right thing for gratitude as that is what makes it the right thing.
This was actually interesting to me because I was on the opposite end of that perspective. I was raised around adults, for the most part, so I learned very quickly about how pointless it was to fit in. I fully embraced being alone. I'd socialize on occasion, but I became a disappearing act. People are still surprised at how easily I can vanish. I did have a stint of trying to fit in as an adult, but yeah that didn't work out.
I "just" watched a video about how the background characters of Bikini Bottom in SpongeBob SqaurePants did/are the exact same type of people as you mentioned in Chicken Little.
1:48 It's not an animated movie, but there was one scene from another movie that I always HATED, because of it basically depicting an innocent person/people being devoured for a joke. The movie is called Freaked, from 1993. The movie is about our heroes being kidnapped and mutated to be placed into a freakshow. One of the henchmen for the main villain is a man mutated into a frog man, with a long sticky tongue. In one scene, while the main characters are trying to escape through a tunnel, they show the frog man sitting outside. The sound of a biplane can be heard flying by, and then suddenly the frog man lashes out his tongue, somehow catches the biplane, and then manages to eat the whole thing, promptly followed by him burping up the propeller. I hate that scene, because now either one or two innocent people were brutally devoured, for a stupid gag. Those poor people/person now being slowly digested in the belly of some mutant. If they had just done like a bird flying by, like a hawk or eagle, then I wouldn't care. But this, seeing that scene made instantly hate the movie.
As someone who does feel bad for fictional characters dying or getting screwed over i think thats a little too much empathy ngl that sounds like a funny scene imma watch that movie later
Ok im watching the movie and sad about unnamed and unseen helicopter pilots but not the old man who got sucked out of an airplane 10 minutes into the movie and the entire airplane of unseen but presumably innocent people who get blown up this movie firmly establishes itself as a live action dark comedy cartoon and i cannot see how one could get that tilted from something like that and im very easily tilted
I actually love that movie, but forgot about that scene entirely! It's interesting and funny how the subtle nuances of a scene can make us feel empathy for even unseen people or NPCs or just disregard them altogether. I'd say a lot of it has to do with the "rules" of the fictional world.
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The chicken hyperfixation goes crazy to be honest
That's an adorable profile picture. Thank you.
@@GramLikesBread aw shucks
Yeah, not sure where I heard this somewhere, but a phrase that has stuck with me is: _"Those people are assholes. Why do you _*_want_*_ their approval?"_
I wish that line were in the movie
Yeah especially the same for the Raimi Spider-Man trilogy where everyone was awful towards Peter Parker
It was from Bojack Horseman
The thing about bullying is that no one, NO ONE actually benefits from it.
You'll always hear bullies say "he should have been bullied more, that way he would be stronger", but that's a lie, a faulty rationalization to justify their own aggressive, evil thoughts.
The sensitive people that get bullied get crushed by it, they lose self esteem and become weaker or jaded as a result. The bullies learn that, until they victimize someone weaker, they'll be seen as the strong, cool people that no one wants to mess with, teaching them that victimizing the weak will always be the best choice. And every bystander learns that, until there's someone weaker that gets victimized, they don't have to fear being victimized themselves, so they'll actively defend systems that advantage them while beating down others.
Bullying is an evil, evil thing that reflects the worst parts of our society.
Being jaded is being stronger, it allows you to stop caring because the reality is that caring doesn’t matter and your happiness definitely doesn’t when you take into account how the world works. The simple fact is you can’t change the system so the best thing you can do is use it to your own advantage the best you can
@@guyferrari8124 And that's exactly the "worst part of society" I was talking about.
Being strong, in a social species like ours, should mean that you're more well equipped to protect your group, not just yourself, and a strong group is one where the strong individuals protect the weak ones.
A group where there are only strong individuals becomes destructive and invasive, and it's an evolutionary failure.
Your mentality is unnatural and damaging, and it will find support only in other sad, lonely people who are resentful of everyone else.
@@TheDahaka1yeah humans are pack animals, what the other guy is suggesting is not how humans should act
We had a bully in our class from year 1 to year 9 who basically picked on anyone he thought weaker than himself. The more "different" he thought you were from himself, the more he'd pick on you.
I wasn't always the center of his attention, but from time to time I'd say something in class or be at the wrong place at the wrong time and then I'd be screwed. Once you got his attention he'd stick with you for weeks. One of the best parts of finally getting out of school was never having to see him again.
Later, as the years passed, I found that my thoughts would return to him and be along the lines of "I hope he understands what his younger self did, then grows and becomes a kinder person - maybe we could talk and sort all of this old baggage out, and perhaps we'd both feel better".
He never had time to. But I do wave at him every time I go and see my parents grave, at the graveyard back in my old hometown. He's just down the row from them.
Don't you just love a happy ending?
You got me incredibly curious about your bully's fate. Did he peaked at highschool and drowned himself in the vices? Did he picked up a match he wasn't meant to pick and paid the ultimate price? Was it some kind of cosmic karma that abruptly ended his misery or was it something? Please, i need to know.
@@goodboy9318 After school I (for obvious reasons) lost track of what he was up to in detail. But as this is a very small town, gossip found its way back home to my family.
His dad died at some point around 2000 - 2001 I believe. Basically drank himself to death. Then in 2005 his sister stabbed two women in the throat (only one survived) and got sent to jail. In 2008 he got beaten so badly by a "friend" after some sort of dispute, that he died from his injuries. The place he died was near the outdoors arena in our town where we did outdoor sports in school. He once hit me with his moped there.
I think his mom might still be alive, but I'm not sure. But yeah, that's more or less it. Life's weird.
Wait he... he died?!
@@cathleenmoyle1476 how else you interpret the line "he never had time to" saying about someone who bullied you since the childhood?
Glad I’m not the only one who thinks about all the poor background characters who mercilessly died in Atlantis the Lost Empire. Especially that guy in the Submarine!
Atlantis is like the only Disney movie where countless people die on screen in the very first scene. I still think of those people who slammed their speeders into the force field.
@@maidenreligion12 I think the amount of brutal death is why that movie is mostly forgotten. It is a good movie though.
@@maidenreligion12As for the Atlantis expedition crew members that died I feel sorry for them but at the same time those people dying early on probably made things easier for Milo and the other protagonists in the climax not to say every member of the crew were entirely bad people but just didn't know what they were a part of.
I think what adds to the weight of it is they actually stop to acknowledge it. So often in movies with a big action scene and the heroes all scrambling to survive before defeating the monster or the villain, it will either end with some big celebration they did it or will have something new come up to transition so the plot can move forward like "oh dang, we did it! Whoo hoo! But wait, the structure is collapsing so go back to panicking!" Or just have the realization one of the mains is injured and the screen fades to black before we see them settled in at a new location. Atlantis however shows the remaining crew doing a funeral, placing little "boats" in the water and Roarke saying a few words for the fallen before they move on. You see the somber faces of our heroes realizing there has been a cost in getting this far and they're taking this mission more seriously. At least until they actually find the city and everything is now filled with wonder again. These may have been nameless background characters but they clearly meant something to the heroes.
@@Kahtisemoit wierded me out in that moment that from submarine alive got out only main lifeboat (like, house sized), and couple of small ones (car sized). But then in final battle there are, like, 60 men with planes and cars and giant balloon (also, what they were supposed to do on it, Atlantis is in the giant cave on bottom of ocean, blown up ceiling will drown all characters with Kirk himself). From where they all came from.
Came for the chicken. stayed for the origins of Valentino.
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I love how this channel is a combination light ARG and commentary. It really makes you love Valentino and the characters and want to watch solely for more context on his life. The wonderful art, vocal personality, and discussions are the icing on the cake. It's truly one of a kind!
How is it an ARG?
Valentino combines (what I'm guessing is) his real experiences in life with his digital characters experiences. He talks about his experience with school and isolation before transitioning into his eyes turning yellow, signifying that something caused him to change forms. I think the confusion is that it's not a normal ARG with puzzles and hidden websites. But this doesn't exclude it from being an ARG, "Alternative reality game", it's about it being from a different universe that's very similar and/or includes real world elements while adding a narrative twist.
Hope that helps. 🙂
@@OurTime. I feel like the term has been pretty saturated by all the other ARGs, that confusion rises. It's like SMP with Minecraft. Any time you say it these days, no one thinks Survival MultiPlayer, they think of what Dream and whatnot did.
@@OurTime. Where is the interactive aspect to that? Not every mystery narrative is automatically an ARG.
I would say the interactive element is watching the videos and making guesses on the story elements, but I can definitely see that being a little weak. Honestly I used ARG because I couldn't think of something better. 🤷♂️
7:00 This was me. I'm 41 and I still have the scars from the compasses. Children are vicious, far more than any adult is willing to believe they are. I wish I could say I was able to brush it off like you did. I didn't survive my childhood intact.
Thank you for sharing this. I'm sure it wasn't easy for you.
War of Pigs is a Korean movie about this where two children get close to a broken child an years later both now adults are traumatized by it an make horrible choices due to that emotional instability
the final line is so cold "This is where the icy cold asphalt and even colder bodies tumble about together this place called the world"
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 actually, it was King of Pigs
@@k-onlegacy yeah I don't know how this one comment had me fuked it up lol
@senritsujumpsuit6021 It's cool, that's also one of my fave series b/c of hard hitting it is. I appreciate it when creators base their works on their lives, it's a very profound yet brutal life story ( ´-｀)
I don't care how long it takes I'll stay here and support until the cartoon network movie ranking is done. 🙏🙏🙏
Oh right. I forgot that was a thing that existed.
As a Neurodivergent, i was bullied in school. It was mostly over stupid stuff, like calling me names because of where i was born, or because i had to wear glasses. One time i thought maybe i could utilize what scared me aganst them, and learned how to growl like a dog. It didn't work as planned, but now i can mimic many animals and make different voices on a whim. There's always a bright side if you look for it, coming from a goblin like me.
I can related to so much about feeling bad about random background characters dying. For me its even worse, feeling bad when straight up villians who totally deserve it die. This affects me for real people too. I also find deaths that dont leave perfect corpses like explosions, dismemberment, and vaporization somehow "worse" than normal deaths. Im 18 and i still have this
Yeah, I get that last part too. The earliest time I can remember of it was watching Mars Attacks as a kid, and the thought of being instantly reduced to a charred unidentifiable skeleton still freaks me out today. Same for any vaporization/disintegration/whatever else, despite technically being more 'screen friendly'. Just being GONE like that is somehow scarier than being a dead guy on the floor.
Same minus the evaporation part
@@RolandTHX it's such a strange feeling as well, because on the 1 hand, it's super cool and badass, but on the other hand....
You make me realize, I need to find a story where there's a moral of "Some societies aren't worth fitting in to" as I've kinda thought that "You shouldn't be trying to fit into a place that rejects you for no reason, but one that would want you."
I have a comic I've writing and struggling to illustrate the first book of it right now, where there's a bit of that going on. We got some chicken little likeness going on, every individual is genuinely awful, and I mean awful, every faction is genuinely evil where destroying it or the leader would only replace it with something or someone that is exactly the same as the last one, with said person starting at "this is why this is evil" to "well see it's only reasonable" once it's in charge. I choose it specifically to invoke that feeling of "I don't care what happens to these people" especially since our protagonists are mercs, which means a lot of death will happen and I'm a little done with the "Make someone sympathetic last second before killing them" joke, for several reasons personal and storytelling wise.
But one of our protagonists, she is beyond insecure and we find out why easily, in the comic I'm working on actually, you find out right away she's being held captive because when it came to sacrifice one their tribe or be obliterated, they already had someone in mind and gave her up with a comedic lack of hesitation, even her own parents, who mind you where the leaders. She spent years doing kinda what got described in the video, trying to fit in, tried to reach the exact expectations, but when tested, they made it clear they thought she meant nothing.
After seeing how badly rejection got her, the fear and danger it caused, she constantly spends the series to fit in, but no one actually ever cared, except one... our other protagonist he not only literally saved her life, but very I guess 'spiritual level' too, he allowed her to come with him, genuinely had a interest in her own well being, and overall gave her the ability to be her, to fit in.
He had the ability to fit in with multiple groups, but never did, he was always happy to do the things he'd do, he had the strength a lot of other don't: the ability to reject being accepted. He knows this universe, he's a freelacing Conflict Resolution Specialist, he knows the crap it does. Rejection means he could stick to his morals, as you learn when you need to fit in someone else chooses your morals.
And only after she see's this about him, and is able to let go trying to be accepted, she can realize she can accept herself and see that there are others who do too.
So you know, only a little bit of the concept of "Sometimes its better to not try to fit in"
I recall a flash game I played when I was younger: Loondon.
Yes, the name is on the nose. Long and short, it's about a guy at a Victorian/Edwardian Freak Show Carnival who leaves his friends to go and search for the "happiness" promised in an advert to move to the city of Loondon.
Problem is, this guy looks like the Hunchback of Notre Dame, and from the street to the church, everyone from peasant to priest insults and belittles him, save two: a dapper gentleman and a poor old man who treat him with kindness and respect.
At one point, he notices a women trying to "discipline" a child to death and tries to stop it, only for someone to come in and see both child and woman dead (the latter being an accident)...and well you get the idea.
He escapes with the help of the gentleman, who's revealed to be an angel come to judge the city, but the fellow remembers the one guy who showed him kindness, and pleads for his sake. He even goes back to face the mob (I don't remember why that was necessary), and while the angel allows this, he ends the story with a promise that Loondon's time is short: judgement stalled, but not stopped.
Shoutout to content creators who drop a quality vid and then go radio silent for months on end.
Gotta be one of my favorite genders.
I get the impression from his community tab that he regularly gets anxiety over delayed video production due to being a bit scatter brained. Personally, I think it requires exactly that kind of brain to produce something this creative.
After reading your comment a picture of a black guy standing in front of a car while doing this 🙏 💯 and looking to his left immediately came to my mind
02:00 Same...I used to feel bad for Battle Droids, Scraptors and the raptors from Jurassic Park....
I spent most of my first viewing of the 80s Transformers movie crying for everyone on Lithone or wishing I could save the ones who fell in the acid vat
When I was little, I always cried when Bilbo decided to go off with the elves to pass with them. But I cried for Shelob, I cried for the orcs, I cried for the Uruk'ai. to me, Lord of the rings was a series of books that taught that war is always sought by those with the least to lose and fought by those with the most. The fact that the orcs were hungry for meat on the menu told me that they were malnourished, they were a culture that valued sustenance and eating as a bonding ritual, these were people made to fight with no option, some even genuinely being born simply to die in war. 1:49
Dude everything you said applies to me. I was born Autistic and i never really had much friends but i never got physically tortured, instead i was ignored by everyone. I had a best friend who actually cared about me and talked with me everyday until he went to jail in the summer. In High School, i was still ignored by everyone and became a laughing stock(Especially in my Freshmen Year) and all i could do is sit by myself in silent. 500 students and no one cared about me, not even the teachers cared the slightest about me. The onky thing me and you differ is that you were popular once, i however was never popular and was the bottom of the barell. Emo Kids hated me, The Nerds hated me, The Popular Kids used me as a joke, i am now depressed and on medication and thanks for your video, it really made my day :)
That's horrible.
Tbh why to worry about teachers and random ppl? They don't care about themselves either. Find friends - ppl who really cares - it's all that matters
@@Catastropheshe i thinks it's a little too late now but i'll try
@@drhamsterviel1 why too late, you still alive. Maybe consider therapy, ppl who seek outside validation often ignore the reason why they do so ( i.e. repressed trauma and that don't need to be the severe one really). It's never too late to start feeling happy with oneself. And if you really missing ppl, well there a lot of neutodiverse ppl support groups, forums if you feel like being autistic is the problem, or maybe find friends through hobby or interests. It's hard to find someone who would care care but the more ppl you know the bigger chance for it.. aaaand at worse you'll learn some social skills (or at least emulate) which helps in day to day life
@@CatastrophesheBut that's the thing, if you don't have any friends, the only real socializing you get is from random kids, teachers, and your parents. And when people ignore you, when you are treated that way by your classmates, it can really easily succeed at making you feel less than human. having nothing to look forward to about going to school because your teacher barely remembers your name and there's nobody there to talk to you about anything you care about, it can make carrying on really difficult for a child. there's a reason that the suicide is one of the leading causes of mortality for children in America. because alienation and ostracization can inspire horrible, horrible things.
In terms of tone, the movie feels less like a Disney movie, and more like the Fairly Oddparents
Yeah. I don't think it is really a _bad_ movie, but it just isn't a _Disney_ movie. From nearly any other studio doing CG movies at the time it would have been a solid outing with a somewhat muddled message.
Those adults and bullies were horrendous. I gasped when I heard what they said about your grandfather. I’m glad you’re free of them.
They’re what I have expected from Jesus’ writings of his creation.
Ratman lore goes deeper with this one
Wasn't he a bat? A batman...wait ... *I guess bat boy?...OH GOD THAT'S WORSE*
@@billcipher4368 Batboy : The Videogame reference ?
I remember when i was in grade school and i always felt a disconnect between myself and everyone else. i observed others being happy and having fun and i tried replicating their behavior but it always felt hollow and never made me happy. so i became content with merely observing them. i was very nice and never realy interacted with others so i was very rarely bullied, only as "there is no one else to bully" and i never externally reacted to their meanness so they lost interest. i never had any friends until late fourth grade and probably never would have if others didn't find me. like a stone in the tide, algae and debris of people who could not flow with the tide stuck around me. people who didn't fit the educational or societal molds and general outcasts took shelter in my niceness and tolerance and interest of whatever strangeness of thought or ideas they had and they respected and were entertained by my own. in middle school we were more solidified as a friend group and we collected more outcasts of outcasts many came and went as they lost and refound the flow and some stayed. but i was always there, happy to listen to and share atypical ideas and dreams. i find it funny how far outcast we were, we were separate from the groups that called themselves outcasts like the nerds, theater kids, band kids, the emo, and goth groups. many came and returned from those groups but i and some others were never able to fit into those either. i like to believe that i had a positive impact on those who bumped into me as the tide flows. it brings me great joy to be called by two completely separate people years apart that i should be a sage.
sorry for my random ramblings on a small video by someone who more should see in a comment section no one will read but i felt nice to talk about my past in a positive light i haven't saw much before. i feel now i have come far from the darkness of my more recent past. i feel positive.
thank you for inspiring these thoughts in my head, Valentino. i hope to see more from you when you feel to. good wellness out there.
Well, I did read. Thanks for sharing your words, I can relate to a lot of things you said. And I hope both me and you can keep on feeling better and content with our lives!
As a teacher myself, I’m appalled to hear of your experience with your teacher. I’m glad you persevered.
Damn, the real title should be “How to feel empathy for a poor unfortunate soul in 8 minutes and 8 seconds.” I feel so sorry for your past, and hope things have improved for you since those darker times.
I also found myself feeling bad for random animated characters as a kid. Sometimes even thinking about it long after the movie ended and thinking about that instead of the main part of the movie. Some specific examples coming to mind is a butterfly getting turn to gold in a King Midas animation.
2:48 finally someone else gets it, I too would notice things like that in shows. even as a young kid I would feel bad for squidward when his dreams got ruined or shut down. And I can never watch family guy because I’d be too busy trying not add a hole in a wall out of sheer rage for how everyone treats Meg. Even though I was told that I’m taking things too seriously, and it’s just a joke, well jokes are supposed to be funny and seeing people being misstated and abused isn’t
This spoke to me on an extremely personal level, while some parts are different, the end point and some of the minor details hit home in a deep but good way of showing me that I’m not the only person to have gone through this in life. This made me feel like a weight I didn’t even know was there is now gone. Thank you.
Honestly glad to see we're steadily getting more Valentino lore o3o
Assuming a right triangle, despite the missing angle indicator.
a^2 + b^2 = c^2
12^2 + 16^2 = x^2
144 + 256 = x^2
400 = x^2
400^(1/2) = x
20 = x
x = 20cm
This also follows the 3:4:5 pattern, which is neat.
I love the way you're mixing your own life with this fictional character as well as this commentary on movies. This is exactly the thing that has drawn me to you in the first place and has kept me as a fan. I can't imagine all the stuff you went through in school, just know that we'll be here cheering you on now. Keep up the good work!
This video reminds me of a quote "nobody not a signal person dead or alive famous or obscure has there shit together the same fears you have they have and the only difference between people is how much of there flaws the show to the rest of the world"- I forgot who made this quote
More Buried Entertainment lore? Sweet.
For the first time that I have ever watched a video, I've watched your's in the same way that I'd listen to a song.
Every word you spoke, dripped with Emotions. Sorrow, Empathy, Truth...
You remember your past. Good. Don't ever let those memories go. Forgetting them, won't make the Pain go away...
It will just make you wonder where it came from.
Cartoon Network used to air "Tom and Jerry, the Fast and the Furry" religiously back in the day. I felt awful for the other racers that died (yes, died) throughout the movie. Especially the soccer mom. She was just some nice lady with bad OnStar service. 😢
That last line is so good. I love the unique way these videos do story telling, and I think this might be one of my favorites
Always great to see a new video. Will update after I watched it.
Edit: I feel so strange. Everyone always talks about their experience in school and the bullies but I feel like I've never really seen bullies in the schools I've gone to...
just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't there
@@oiitsoranglee That's fair, perhaps it was in other grades. But even the popular kids seemed like chill guys. But yea, I guess it may have been possible I simply never saw it.
@@ValenWarden just came back to say that i'm not trying to blame you or something just that sometimes bullies are more secretive, especially from people who would try and stop them. but yeah
It’s always such a pleasure to get any kind if vid from you, they’re always so entertaining~
As for the movie…. A bit sad that the mains thing I remember from this movie ended up being:
Outside of his friends, everyone basically hated Chicken Little for… i don’t even remember why
Bad parenting, bad parenting everywhere
The messed up end for Foxy(where are her parents??)
And my uncomfortable yet thankfully short lived crush on Abby
Good lord, what a movie🙄
The Video Title: Chicken Little, Empathy and Bullying
What the title should be: Chicken Little & how it triggers Valentinos' childhood trauma
Jokes aside, I'm not sure if that was just stuff that happened to your AVATAR or to YOU, but you have my condolences if it's the latter
Real story through an avatar, for privacy sake I guess idk at this point tbh.
May be quite some time since we last saw ya, but welcome back!!
I also used to overthink the seemingly subtle/ or one-off deaths in films when I was little. Had to shut off “Jurassic Park” because the lawyer “could’ve lived a happy life” 😢😂
Literal tears, but not the most fair comparison to “chicken little,” as JP is PG-13.
i'm so glad your still slowing working of such quality work
i found this channel a few months ago and binged every vidoe in 1 night and got worried that such a creative channel just ran it's course unseen bu the masses
Me too!!
I'm sorry but *COUGH COUGH*
🤓*video , * by , *A capital I in the second sentence.
I love this channel so much, and Valentino even more. Valentino the character. Valentino the creator. There’s so much quality snd charm in everything you do.
Though as someone who was literally suplexed with regularity in middle school, this hits different.
Love to see a new video the design and creation on this channel is great, feels like a fleshed out universe with great characters!
i never noticed that in atlantis, dang... and i know very well how maladaptive daydreaming is a magnet for cruelty in school...
1:48 Up until maybe around Middle or High School age (I'm 34 currently), I also HATED scenes like this. I hated seeing people or animals die or seriously getting hurt in similar ways mentioned in the video. Hated hearing people scream in fear and agony. Even though I knew it's all just pretend, animated, or whatever. I even did not like the Emperor's New Groove spider scene despite it being played out as more humorous.
Some of the worst ones I remember was the atomic bomb sequence in Terminator 2 and city attack in Independence Day. Yah, I know I was to young to see these movies, but that's what you get for having free access to these movies on VHS on the same shelf as Disney movies.
Anyway, great video!
1:45 Not to mention overthinking cartoons is basically Val's schtick, so for him to underthink one, if you will, is more than a little strange.
I didnt start to have that epiphany until my early 20s sadly. I just... Didnt understand people. After starting to learn average human psychology, instead of empathizing with it... I became a bit disgusted by it as it felt really NPC-like behavior to me. Amd I became disgusted with it in myself as well, as no human is truly free of things like cognitive heuristics and bias.
After that though, I started curtailing attention seeking behavior, because I dont really want it anymore. And when I accidentally slip back into it, anything past small doses, and I regret it, because it is those behaviors which, filtered through someone who learned about the world obsessively, pisses people off and ironically causes any bullying or shunning of me. Nowadays I realize my school years would have been infinitely easier, had I just kept to myself, and not given a f@ck what my fellow NPCs think of me.
I really appreciate your content Valentino. You may have been bullied as a child, and maybe even as an adult, but your unwavering commitment to your own individuality is what has allowed you to entertain thousands with your creativity, while those who bullied you perhaps often never touched very many people in any positive way as you have done. I only regret that RUclips often seems to actively bury your content, but... Who knows, maybe that's a necessary filter, as it seems to be mostly other outcasts who find and stick around to see you prosper. And, your channel grows in spite of that, which is a testament to how much quality you pack into each video. I wish this video in particular had been around for me 10 years ago, and, I think it'll help a lot of younger people now.
Well that's interesting. I thought people in this world were animal people like in Zootopia but apprently not. We see in the flashback that narrator was a human child in a human school. That just leaves me with even more questions about this world. Why is there this secret bunker with animal people? Who is in charge of this place? Who is in charge of them? Do humans still exist or is the animal person thing just for a small group hence why they are locked away? Curiouser and curiouser
I think they turn into animals due to things and stuff, and that the place is some kind of medical place to make them back into humans?
Given Valentino's ramblings about genetic engineering in the Stork video, it might be a core part of his lore that something similar happened to him.
The book he's reading at the end of the video says "Island of Lost Souls", which is also the name of the second, and tbh most well known adaptation of Island of Doctor Moreau. ...Which should pretty much explain everything.
2:05 that scene used to fuck me up as a child, interesting to know I’m not the only one that had that scene lodged in their childhood memory. My dad used to be into submarines a lot and would tell me stories about my great grandpa getting torpedoed in ww2 and watch Das Boot and stuff. I always thought about how horrible the man’s fate was.
Yay, it’s my favorite creepy RUclipsr! With - sad lore.
your videos are beautiful they are honest in a way that it is hard to find it has a blinding sincerity. I find it horrible that you have gone through these moments, but that is what made you the person you are. Thank you for sharing this since I feel the same way with adults where everyone wants to seem in control but floundering like the rest of us. We are human every one of us and we can never escape that.
I’m always up for videos that have lore, and this one was jam packed with lore
I’m so sorry for everything that you endured through your youth that NO person should have to endure. (It really is a crime that a lot of this horrible stuff that happens in school extends into the adult world in some ways too.)
But seriously, what you described about how you were even belittled by your own teacher…That reminds me of that nasty teacher lady from the Jim Carrey Grinch movie, who laughed along with the class at the Grinch’s attempt at shaving his face! Like WTF?!
Think the main reason I liked this movie as a kid was simply because Chicken Little was also a badly bullied kid and I already dealt with alot of bullying when my ADHD symptoms started to be more visible and I eventually just started to become what id call a "school ghost" just someone whos kinda just there and rarely talking.
Nowadays I realize how 2000's this movie was and how dumb some stuff was and even how stupid the bullying I got was. I still have a grudge on those who did that to me for so long but its not as bad, I simply wish they deal with more than usual inconveniences. Hell I even realized I had actually developed some level of trauma while watching a TV show and a bullying scene came up and I just started freaking out.
Welcome back, my friend. I love your videos!
My god, HOW HAVE I MISSED THIS FOR NEARLY AN ENTIRE MONTH!?
Great work as usual, man! This is a great cutaway from the main video that we're still greatly anticipating!
Thanks for sharing this insight with us!
Admittedly, the depiction of the towns people and Buck is pretty accurate to how it feels being an outcasted kid.
New video, new therapy session
Ngl growing up, I just didn't care. I had a few friends but partly cause of having autism and struggling with social situations because of it for the longest time, and I always disliked the high school media and never cared for the high school tropes. Since I was little I wanted something with action or horror in it over teen drama. When I went through high school, I didn't go to prom or high school graduation. I just didn't see a point of fitting in, and I saved myself from a lot of the typical teen drama it wasn't drama free, but I would say I came out of high school better off without worrying about high school stuff going into adulthood. Then I joined the marines, and it felt more like high school then my time in high school.
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Young Val, human
Val now, animal
*deep breath*
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE
The return of the king
I love this channel so much, primarily due to the fact that the priority is quality.
I tend to forget that someone who is being a horrible has some kind of motive behind what they do. Feeling neglected, not meeting expectations, insecurity about their own appearance and or personality, and more im probably not thinking of. Humans are complicated and may simplify to understand(atleast I do) Nothing is black and white there are grey, red, yellow, and blue areas. (Red, blue, and yellow are primary colors which is why I mention those specifically)
This is all my own opinion I encourage whoever is reading this to argue with or add to my thoughts.
Day by day and for each upload this channel's lore amazes me . Even if it gets changed or retconed sometimes it's still fun with thought put into it .
I'll remind you that THIS IS A *COMMENTARY CHANNEL* . It isn't suppose to have such extra high quality !
I haven't even talked about the illustrations but hey I can't write a whole essay can I?
Strange. As someone who had very similar experiences with my peers as a child, and I believe is a bit older than BE, I can't say getting mocked for liking the Powerpuff Girls was ever one of those shared experiences. Powerpuff was so universally enjoyed amongst my age group that it was actually more likely you'd get made fun of for disliking the show ("not being secure in your masculinity" was a phrase I remember getting used in relation to people who said they didn't like it). Adults sometimes made snarky comments about it, but never the children.
This was a really interesting watch, I was wondering where your videos have gone and this notification brought me in and gave me an interesting insight onto how others were in similar situations (though not the same).
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This was a good experimental and personal video you did, and the visuals help convey the words even more.
I'm new to this channel, ive seen lije 4 videos and i cannot tell you how invested i am in the Flow, and style of video you guys make, from the sketchy animated parts to the introspective stuff. Great job.
The worst is when people you think are friends turncoat on you. Been that way for years and I still have problems where I think friends are mad at me for maybe talking to them too much.
In the context of Chicken Little, its one of those movies I think nobody thought of the way the townsfolk and other children acted until they grew up like openly. I remember feeling it was wrong without understanding the problem, because colorful entertainment. But then when you got life context and experience you realise oh shit the bullying in this movie is intense.
On a writing scale, Something like that can work if its like a moral choice for the protagonist, Goosebumps Calling all Creeps comes to mind, where everyones pretty much an asshole to Ricky except for like 9ne other person, and by the end when he's in a position of some power to either stop the aliens or end the world, he chose the latter because, thats the power of that temptation.
I don't think Chicken Little could empower a person to become a bully or strive to be "popular", but it's a scarring experience to anyone whos felt like the world is out to get them when they were young. It can feel a bit empowering to be the one person who knows something bad is happening and is in time proven right, but its not worth the stress of the experience especially after going through and witnessing similar life experience
Did you know they made a chicken little video game based on the fake in-universe movie from the end of the actual movie?
What the hell is this movie i swear.
hold up, whats this new lore now.
I came for the Chicken Little analysis, now I want more of Valentino's backstory. How did he go from human to bat? Was it magic or science that fueled that transformation?
Your mathematics professor sounds like my mathematics professor.
Me to buddy. Though I never climbed my way up to the ranks to be part of the popular kids. Instead I got a therapist who made me feel worst by saying Pokemon was of the devil. One of the few good things in my life back then.
I spent the vast majorities of my lunches eating a lone in school. Wish I had a book for a lot more of though. I remember racing leaves with my fingers, pretending they were boats. Electronics were not allowed during school hours back then. I did start to do a lot of reading though. I got into the Xanth series of books.
These stories are relatable, I did not go to school except for 6th grade and i didn't fit in too well there. I probably have Autism however I am not diagnosed.
I grew up in the United States south and in a Christian family, I got bullied at church and at home. Thankfully physical violence was basically off the table at church, but at home my brother would be kinda hard on me. To this day sometimes when people walk towards me I get startled and I will flinch away or duck and cover my head.
I basically used my brother as a crutch socially, I only really hung out with his friends and I would immitate his behaviour to fit it.
He moved out in 2020, so that entire dynamic changed and I was no longer able to rely on that. The past few years I have learned to make friends online, and now I finally have a car and I am hoping to be able to try out those skills in the real world soon
i guess i am oversharing on the internet rn lol i will not be deleting this comment but i should try and be better about that
Yeah chicken little was relatable to me not that my brain fully understood at the time. I m looking into getting an autism diagnosis later this year. After years I did eat lunch alone I was ostracised and made fun of not that much bullying just a sense of being unwelcome. Most teachers earlier in school would get frustrated with me for not understanding questions. I never joined a friend group but I would hear a lot of stuff they said about their friends and family and it was horrible as if no one could hear them, it made me not want to be friends with them.
That whole segment about seeing how the popular kids have their own insecurities and such, made me remember the main moment where I could to myself about them. Or more accurately smile to them being the laughing stock for me once.
We got a school trip to the UK and part of that was also a P.E. segment about Rugby.
Which is quite a rough sport, tackling and such. Now a friend of my and myself (I would say the nerds of the class) had some hobbies where we at least got used to some it.
He did bootcamp and the scouting group where I was still active in gave me the fondness of game that also includes tackling people to lift them completely off the ground.
So to see all the other boys, who most played foodball, being scared once we finally got to play a kind of rugby on a smaller field, was quite funny to me. I think only me and my friend have scored a point due to them throwing the ball immediately when they got it.
I do kinda wonder where they are now, most of the bullying had stopped a few years before this, but it was still nice to have some kind of "payback"...
You have no idea how much I wish I could go back in time and show kid-me this video. Just found your channel, awesome stuff!!
(also the cow woman and amphibian girl are very cute)
i literaly found this channel a couple of months ago, binged a bunch of the videos, subscribed, then completely forgot about it till this video came out. I'm glad I subscribed cus I really did enjoy your videos and I really like the way you think. like at 1:43
It's honestly kind of shocking just how much this reminds me of myself. I'm autistic and I was bullied a lot in school. I slowly built up a tiny circle of friends that I trusted but I was absolutely the target of a lot of horrible things because I was clearly different. I'd hyper fixate on things and get mocked for it, or I'd say one awkward thing and be reminded of it for months on end. The worst of which was a typical bully mocking me when my cat died. Whilst I did eventually start to come out of my shell in collage and university a part of me still remembers going through all that and I think that's why I still prefer to be alone a lot of the time. I still meet a lot of people I don't get on with and would rather just keep away from, some of which I'm unfortunately forced to interact with. That's not to say I'm entirely a lone wolf I have friends and even a partner but I personally don't feel the need to fit in with a crowd that would rather I wear a mask than actually be myself.
ALL HaIL! He returns!
Who else can relate to the teacher lowkey bullying/making fun of you in front of the hole class for zoning out?
I LOVE THIS. Also take your time, no need to rush such lovely stuff as your content✨✨
This has me think back to a video by Internet PItstop where he always loved playing card games with friends but spent years being something else even attacking his friend but once he switched back to his old ways the old friend never once wanted a apology just silently was happy to be together again this friend for all that time apart still rooted for him
I first saw the original Star wars when i was 5, I remember being worried about what happened to the trash monster when the death star exploded
Thankfully, in the cases of other Disney movies, while they do have their moments of some groups of people torturing the protagonists, at the least the movie has the good sense to recognize that these moments are wrong, and that the protagonist has to either A) find a place where they are accepted unconditionally for who they are, or B) prove their potential and who they really are to the rest of the world, in a way that helps everyone else see the error of their ways, rather than conforming to their standards or boost in their heinous egos.
But even I’ve had my share of finding certain moments from Disney unusually disturbing and unsettling, even if the movies were overall better than ‘Chicken Little’. Like when Aladdin got clapped in irons and thrown into the sea, and only barely escaped death because he had the lamp with him to call for help from the Genie! I’ve spent a number of times thinking to myself that the Rasoul and the Guards should be sentenced to a lifetime of imprisonment for attempted (non-crime-related) murder; I didn’t care that Jafar ordered them to do it, they walked away from that seaside cliff SMILING AND CACKLING while Aladdin was dragged under!
Always happy to see your videos. :)
Underrated channel
I feel the same that you do. With those film scenes. Also, I feel the same way that you do. I wish I was a cartoon bird I feel like if I meet you in real life we be perfect friends
Message of story. Bullingy work because Chicken little wouldn't have changed if he wasn't bullied.
Story shoul have had Little go with the aliens and leave humanity behind because people suck.
@@TheBlackAntagonist I can never trust a man that ironically has mickey mouse watch.
Another lesson that could be taken is you don't do the right thing for the sake of reward; just because the town was rude doesn't mean they deserve what happens to them or does it mean it would be okay for Chicken Little to not do something if he could. Will they be grateful that you helped them? Probably not, but you don't do the right thing for gratitude as that is what makes it the right thing.
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The chicken little saga is starting to feel like mort theory
Glad to see you back!
This was actually interesting to me because I was on the opposite end of that perspective. I was raised around adults, for the most part, so I learned very quickly about how pointless it was to fit in. I fully embraced being alone. I'd socialize on occasion, but I became a disappearing act. People are still surprised at how easily I can vanish. I did have a stint of trying to fit in as an adult, but yeah that didn't work out.
Good on you for sticking to yourself. Selling your soul, let alone doing it for nothing would have only hurt you.
THE BAT IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep. The only reason I put myself out there on stage anymore is to be the best I can be for my own sake.
You're alive! That's nice.
I "just" watched a video about how the background characters of Bikini Bottom in SpongeBob SqaurePants did/are the exact same type of people as you mentioned in Chicken Little.
This is a load of *barnacles*
Exactly, wasn’t there was blue fish guy with the red shorts and he was staring fights?
1:48 It's not an animated movie, but there was one scene from another movie that I always HATED, because of it basically depicting an innocent person/people being devoured for a joke. The movie is called Freaked, from 1993. The movie is about our heroes being kidnapped and mutated to be placed into a freakshow. One of the henchmen for the main villain is a man mutated into a frog man, with a long sticky tongue. In one scene, while the main characters are trying to escape through a tunnel, they show the frog man sitting outside. The sound of a biplane can be heard flying by, and then suddenly the frog man lashes out his tongue, somehow catches the biplane, and then manages to eat the whole thing, promptly followed by him burping up the propeller.
I hate that scene, because now either one or two innocent people were brutally devoured, for a stupid gag. Those poor people/person now being slowly digested in the belly of some mutant. If they had just done like a bird flying by, like a hawk or eagle, then I wouldn't care. But this, seeing that scene made instantly hate the movie.
As someone who does feel bad for fictional characters dying or getting screwed over i think thats a little too much empathy ngl that sounds like a funny scene imma watch that movie later
Ok im watching the movie and sad about unnamed and unseen helicopter pilots but not the old man who got sucked out of an airplane 10 minutes into the movie and the entire airplane of unseen but presumably innocent people who get blown up this movie firmly establishes itself as a live action dark comedy cartoon and i cannot see how one could get that tilted from something like that and im very easily tilted
I actually love that movie, but forgot about that scene entirely! It's interesting and funny how the subtle nuances of a scene can make us feel empathy for even unseen people or NPCs or just disregard them altogether. I'd say a lot of it has to do with the "rules" of the fictional world.
Oh, he's back!
Always a fan to see more stuff
YES!!! My bloody favorite RUclipsr! 😆😆🙌🏼 Thank you for this tidbit vid! This is fantastic