People act like the twists are only awful now, but the early teen seasons of Survivor also had a bunch of obnoxious twists. Michele, Aaron, and a huge chunk of the Cook Island cast were really screwed.
I just realized that Cirie and Ozzie are polar opposites. One is a challenge beast who would have made a final 2 because of his physical dominance, only to get screwed by a twist final 3. The other expected the final 3, only to get jumped by a surprise final 2, where due to their physical weakness had lost any shot of getting to the end.
And despite all those contrasts, they’re both still Survivor legends :) just goes to show that no matter how good you are, if luck is not on your side, you won’t win.
@CaptainAwesomesworld I mean, after Panama she probably had no reason to believe she'd be invited back, and by the time she was she probably didn't have that much advance notice to actually get in shape, especially since in the final two she had to face off against Parvati and Amanda, two players who're definitely good at physical challenges, in an endurance based challenge.
Top three things that make me cringe -Fortnite kids -"I'd like to give individual immunity to Natalie" "MeRgE?? I nEvEr SaId AnYtHiNg to GiVe yOu tHaT iMprEssIoN, did I??"
What happened to Shee ann was fucking BS. that tribe treated her so badly then she got massively screwed by a twist. She was also the only interesting person left. Everyone else was boring as shit. I looked up who won (probably the least memorable person out of all the least memorable people). And just skipped the rest of the season.
I would have ranked mine definitely within the top 3, but I'm biased. Thanks for putting this together! Maybe I can get my second chance and avenge that stupid bottle twist!
Jenny, you were totally robbed! Would love to see you get a second shot some day, you were playing a pretty great game until that bottle mysteriously appeared out of Jeff's back pocket.
It's hard to know how to rank any of these twists since they all had their own unique way of spoiling the dynamics. 🙄 So nice to hear from you, though, and I hope you get a second chance as well!
The other thing about having a final three in the Cooks was if they had had a final two, Ozzy would likely have the record for SIX individual immunity challenge wins, standing alone on that pedestal, rather than being tied with Colby, Tom, Terry, Mike, and Brad
What about Cirie getting voted out because of everyone else having advantages, and she was literally the only option despite the fact that not one person had written her name down?
@@janelle1701 That wasn't a twist. It was hoarding. And it would be lauded as one of the greatest episodes of Survivor if anyone other than Cirie got screwed over.
@@rokeYouuer I have to disagree. The increasing volume and emphasis on idols and advantages were divisive at best well before Advantageddon. I saw mockery like "outidol, outadvantage, outtwist" thrown around frequently. Someone getting eliminated with 0 votes probably would have been more palatable if it wasn't a fan favorite, but I simply can't see that being universally lauded by the fandom.
omar adil he said recently if he’s asked to play again he will. And Jeff said a few years back he still can’t believe how popular he is after game changers so not ruling out Ozzy yet
And he now has an Only Fans he advertises on his Twitter. Dude still looks fine as hell these days. He also demolished his competition, I couldn't care less about his job.
When they do the "30 seconds in " VOTE off I almost lose interest in the game. If I was on the game and sent off straight away to redemption island I'd just go home. People don't apply to be on survivor to not have a chance to win or even play the game
I'm still upset at #1. She was so likable and worked so hard to get in the position she was in and yet get voted off in a dumb twist. She deserves to come back!
I feel like Sydney from Survivor 41 would definitely make it on this list. She was in a very good position going into the merge but the hourglass twist paired with the plethora of advantages and idols floating around made her one of the only people able to safely receive votes in a 12 PERSON TRIBE.
The hourglass twist pisses me off so much, it goes against the absolute core element of Survivor. I'm happy Danny had the balls to speak up about it, even though I'm sure he's now on their "do not bring back" list because of it.
I feel like the hourglass could’ve been done a lot better, like time would reverse and the two groups would be redrawn and then compete or something. The main issue with the hourglass though is how there’s no real reason not to do it other than fear your tribe mates will be upset. But either way people get upset, and one could help better your game, so you pick it. If there was a benefit to not breaking it or a downside for breaking it, I think it would be a lot better and more balanced. It was a cool concept, but it’s not balanced enough for it to be great.
Honestly you can say this about the other hourglass eliminated player, Lydia: at the bottom of the merge tribe there were Romeo Chantelle and Tori, who all gain immunity even if Tori was the only one to actually win challenges that episode. Everyone that could have been voted out had a great social play so Lydia just got eliminated for being the weakest link of them I guess
@@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong bro danny is a boring no lying no cheating kinda season 2 ass player. If he got his way there probably would not even be idols.
Before I even started watching this I knew Michelle is going to be no. 1. She is the poster girl of the most "Robbed player" in survivor history. Jenny hold the second place, Crissy, and Devon are imo robbed in bad way coz production wanted Ben to win so much.
Sean Wooldridge I remember before the twist was revealed, when Jeff teased it, I joked with my friends that it was gonna be that Ben automatically made it to the end, and then that actually happened
Wow you guys are mega Ben haters. They had many tribals to get him out, but were too lazy to look for idols. That's why he found 3 in a row. He was the top threat from the merge onward, and they failed to get him out. And he still had to win fire, and they were lucky he put an upside down U in the final challenge. It's ridiculous to decide something is "rigged" on the basis of not liking a player. There are many forms of lucky in the game, and every winner has gotten lucky at some point.
M. Alif Aryaguna Totally. Plus Colton is a complete non-threat, 0 physical game, arguably negative social game, etc. Candice was a young, attractive, athletic woman who had already proven to have an incredible social game in Cook Island. Also just to show the BvW pre-game alliances were definitely a thing, the reason Tina and Vytas blew up at Gervase and Tyson after the Aras vote, Bc the 5 of them and their partners were in a pre-game alliance, this why the typically cool, calm and collected Tina went off.
candice is a big threat and already a survivor icon by that time, but unlike rupert and tina, she have a bad reputation which why she got voted out. the twist was dumb af. i feel bad for jonathan wanda candice and rupert
Alex James it has to be just the alliance thing. It makes no sense to keep a weak player (because you think they’re an easy vote or a goat) before the merge if you still need to win challenges as a tribe.
We should talk about Janet from season 39. She had an idol for final 5 and was the best at making fire so she was set to make it to final 3. She was also well liked and had a good chance of winning the entire game. But she lost it all to a literal coin flip that gave Dean an idol nullifier, which is on its own an unfair advantage. I’m still mad
I knew Michelle was going to be no 1. Jesus, I hate so much that awful twist because she probabaly would be at final 3 for sure since she was closer with Earl and Yau Man and she was smart for herself, so she knew whats she have to do to win #BringBackMichelleYi
I think the most screwed player of all time was Cirie in Gamechangers (I know that 5 idols were played that night) but she was eliminated without any vote cast aganist her
I feel Angie from Palau should be on this list. At a double tribal council, Ibreheim was the obvious target for his bad challenge performance. But Koror got to vote to give one of them immunity. And they gave it to Ibreheim. Angie was then voted out after a tiebreaker vote. Angie was even popular among the viewers. So this didn’t make a lot of people happy
MLB JOEY no because the men and women numbers would be equal. And Stephenie only voted against her because she knew the guys were voting against her. If Stephenie remained loyal, or if by some miracle Ulong won, Angie would probably stick around. Plus, Angie and Stephenie needed one vote, so they could probably sway Bobby Jon because James was weaker
yes totally agree, would love to see her get a second chance and I think had Ibreheim gone like he was supposed to Ulong might have won the next immunity
Christian Hubicki was screwed by the twist of the slide puzzle on day 1 of David vs Goliath! How dare Survivor introduce that game breaking twist that made him lose. I will never forget Christian!
gtac13 I think he showed his threat level easily by first impressions. From his appearance on first glance, you could tell he was a brilliant guy and I think his performance on the slide puzzle challenge only proved and validated this observation.
what he's the one that said that he created a algorithm for puzzles. lots of people are good at puzzles and if you dont announce it a lot of people dont notice.
@@a.jdeets5527 I am curious, what makes you say that? That is prob my fav season of survivor. Watching the Aitu 4, the underdogs, make it to the final 4.
Queen Kara not getting a single elimination vote the entire game, voting with the majority for most of the game, being well integrated socially and strategically, and being eliminated in fire should have been on this list. Her game is so under appreciated and it killed me to see her go home because of fire.
Malcolm getting screwed in Game Changers was pretty bad too. And Cirie, again screwed over in Game Changers. Although I guess that's technically due to advantages, not twists.
Thank you for including Jonathan and Wanda from Palau on this list. Palau is one of my favorite seasons, but that is my least favorite part of it. I look forward to your videos! Keep them coming!
Really after what happend to Ulong? All thought I will say production made a horrible decision not doing tribe swap after witnessing Ulong losing strick. They did not screw a player but an entire tribe. Also I heard a rumor that instead of Stephanie/Bobby Jon original plan was to place Wanda/Jonathan to compete in Guatemala. Also to add insult to injury no merge feist for Koror. Stephanie was sent to their camp with no food or anything. So Koror inhaliate Ulong with out any reward
@@popmans9999 What are you talking about? Koror won a crap ton of rewards. A shower. Cleaning products. A fortified shelter made by pros, and plenty of food rewards. They were living Survivor luxary. At that point, who cares if there isn't a merge feast?
@@popmans9999 The whole point was to give them more incentive to bow out of the immunity challenge for food (which all of them but Tom did.) Then there was a reward where half the tribe got a feast at a festival in which they brought a crap ton of food back to camp for everyone literally a day later.
I don’t think so, Earl and Yau were the only ones from that season to be contacted for other seasons. Shame though, she was put in a pretty impossible situation
From survivor 42, we could also add another Jenny onto this list: seriously she was part of a 4-2 majority but Chanelle casually took a hike and lost a vote because of that and Mike got punished for getting an immunity idol isn’t it so fun guys!!!
I thought Sandra was screwed over in the second tribe swap of Game Changers. She had control of the pre-merge in her previous tribes, but got placed in a terrible position with Varner.
I mean, the Fiji situation was basically a tribe swap but without the time to strategise. Even though I didn't like the Onion alliance, I think Charlie and Marcus should be on this list. The pole balancing challenge was clearly designed as an individual immunity but production changed it once they realised the cliquey alliance was gonna coast to the end.
Ben Faulkner I don't think Charlie and Marcus qualify cuz they weren't screwed that much compared to these people. Also, tribe switches aren't totally unexpected whereas these twists were completely random and unprecedented, plus Marcus could have done many things to save himself on Kota 3.0, and so could've Charlie at Nobag.
i think they made the micronesia be final two bc of all the quits and medevacs would’ve shortened the days left on survivor so they needed an extra challenge to make it to 39 days
MFING OZZZZZZZZYYYYYYY!! Final 3 & the god idol in Cook Islands. Then screwed in South Pacific and was one of the poster child’s for now why in the final 4 the immune person picks 2 to make fire. Sophie would have picked Alberto and Ozzy would have beat coach in fire making and would have got every vote to win... still so upset Ozzy doesn’t have a win. Would have been awesome to see him in Winners at War
I can see him being screwed over in Cook Islands, but how on earth was he screwed over in SP when he even needed a twist to save him after he had been eliminated and he then lost fair and square in an immunity challenge?
Voted out thrice. No returnee from redemption should win. He failed socially by being a bully to cochran causing him to flip. And hes never been good strategically.
I like it, assuming the players know ahead of time. The 3 that survive get to represent the 3 pillars of survivor Outwit - have good social game and be taken to the end by the necklace holder Outplay - win the final immunity challenge Outlast - have better survival skills and make a good fire. In practice the “outwit seat” just goes to the goat, but in theory i think its a good representation of the 3 pillars
i don't necessarily like it, but there are winners/finalists that cannot even start fire and are also very lazy at camp, that's why the twist is quite ok to me
Brenda in Fans Vs Favs 2. I felt so sad when she won the family visit challenge and was given the option to let all the other people have the visit instead. It was a choice she couldn't possible say no to, or risk everyone being furious with her, and then they all voted her out anyway.
wow!!!! I didn't think you'd list Michelle Yi first! I wasn't even sure you'd add her to the list! but she and Shii Ann Huang were the first two I thought of when it comes to players who got screwed by a "twist"....
Sylvia in Fiji got really screwed as well. The players elect her as the "leader" because she was responsible for organizing the building of the entire "haves" camp, so she gets put in the position where she's guaranteed to join whichever tribe will end up at the "have-nots" camp.
In fiji Earl had to win easily , bc Cassandra did not do nothing she was a completely usseless , and dreamz was a liar and asshole . It would be more interesting if Michelle and Yao Man got final 3 or even Boo and Stacy. Cassandra and dreamz were the worst finallist ever
That wasn’t a twist though, just a horrible move from his ally. I wonder, is there a video about contestants who got screwed by their allies? I’d put him at number one on that countdown
Tbh I feel like the whole Ulong tribe was screwed. I feel like some of the tribe members would make it far and potentially win the game. But because the tribe just dwindled and had no tribe swap. Stephanie really had no winning chance with that bad of odds. On a side note it was so blatant that the production wanted Ben to win. He found like 3 idols in a row along with that unfair fire making twist.
@@lafingscarecrow I know he found those idols on his own, but have you not seen the speculation about production keeping him with that twist? There was no way the three of them would take him to the final.
@@strawberrymermaid8825 they had that twist planned before the season started, and if ben had won that immunity challenge, that were going to do it anyway. there is zero proof of production favoring ben.
@@lafingscarecrow that's why I said "speculation", and a lot of people think it was rigged, and that production kept him because they wanted him to win the season. Also you can search up "was Ben's win on survivor unfair", and you get a lot of articles.
I'd say the entirety of Ravu were the absolute most screwed by a twist. Moto got to eat and shit in a toilet and have abundant food, THREE sets of fishing gear and even beds and a couch... And they were left licking palm leaves for droplets of water to stay hydrated.
I so enjoy how the producer's intent and the way the game plays out don't work. The first time the final 3 happens and the "wrong" player wins was such a satisfying slap in the face to the makers of the show. I also like when host Jeff gets a taste of his own medicine.
Fiji yes, but you forgot the other bottle twist where the winning tribe either goes to tribal or loses their camp. Never should you be punished for winning
@@elijahculper5522 The thing was that Paschal was sent home in something that would never happen in a modern season. Paschal's elimination was why the fire making tie-breaker was made.
I think the rock draw rule was known to the players at the time (even though it was the first time viewers saw it). That is all the players had a fair shot at preparing for the situation.
We can be 100% sure the bottle twist was inserted midway in the game. With a mutiny, it is entirely possible that 1 tribe only has 2 people before that challenge. Production could not have planned that beforehand.
How about Jamal Shipman? He saw an advantage hanging from a tree, grabbed it, and it turned out to be a lose a vote with 10 people left in the game. He ends up going home in a 5-4 vote. Literally stupid. What could he have done differently? Not grab the advantage? How dumb of a move would that be. Personally my least favorite twist ever added.
But Jamal made final 12 tho... So how did he lose his vote if it occurred at final 10? Edit: Yeah you got some stuff wrong buddy. Jamal didn't even go home in a 5-4 vote on island of the idols.
a way to counter the idol nullifier is by playing another idol because the nullifier only blocks one idol. So the idol nullifier nullifier technically already exists Also Chrissy's advantage was getting the knowledge that she had to send two people to a fire making challenge
popmans9999 No the reason they switched from a final 3 to a final 2 was because James got evacuated late in the game. That threw off production’s plans and had them vote out an extra person.
One screwed player by twists are 1. Aubry most likely would have won season 32(Koah Rong) but because Michele voted out her best jury member who most likely could've convinced others to vote aubry and been an extra vote in a close 5-2 win
I know that yeah, the Palau thing was unfair, and yeah we're not supposed to say how Jonathan and Wanda did it to themselves, but...I still find it hilarious that according to Tom and Ian, Jonathan's social game was so bad that half the cast thought his name was "Kevin", which made everybody paranoid they'd missed someone, lol.
Came literally the year after this video, but I think an honorable mention here should be the Do or Die twist. Essentially this twist forced players to pick between a chance at immunity. If you sat out from the challenge, no punishment. No immunity, but no punishment. If you played the challenge, and were the first one eliminated from the challenge, then you would be subjected to this awful twist. At tribal council, you would pick from 3 boxes. 2 boxes had a skull. If you picked a skull box, then you were eliminated from the game right then and there. If you picked correctly though, you got immunity right on the spot and couldn't be voted out. This twist only showed up in 41 and 42, did not reappear in 43 or 44 and will most likely not appear in 45 either. And while no one was actually eliminated through this twist, it's still messed up that after 20 years on TV with fans outwardly acknowledging they want to see eliminations based on skill and blindsides they would introduce this. I mean, they even got tired of all the emotional crap at final tribal council that saw good players lose for playing a great game that they stepped in and directed conversation towards the aspects of the game: Outwit, Outplay, Outlast. So how is getting eliminated through this twist any of those? Apparently, on 41, one of the players verbally lost it on Jeff when he introduced the twist claiming it wasn't fair. He was never subjected to it and lost it on him after the challenge. But it speaks for itself that fans wholeheartedly agreed since it hasn't been back yet and here's hoping it stays that way. Pretty sure it only appeared in 42 because filming for that season took place before 41 aired on TV so fan reaction wasn't around then. But it's not hard to see that it was going to be negative.
Bonus: In terms of twists, I’ll add Jeff Varner to the list for both “Second Chance” and “Game Changers”. He was a power player in “Second Chance” who sealed Vytas and Shirin’s fate early on. But the early tribe swap put him in a bad spot afterwards. In “Game Changers”, the second tribe swap put him in the minority along with Sandra. They had to win challenges to avoid Tribal Council. They lost and we all know what happened afterwards.
wasn’t the final 3 created *specifically* to counter any day 39 medical evacuations? on day 39 of panama, aras was almost medivacked because of him tripping and getting some glass stuck in his back, almost causing danielle to be the winner by default
I'm of the opinion that Ozzy is #1 for the simple reason there's a 99% chance he wins if not for that twist. Devon as well but I'm not 100% sure if he wins the F3 against Chrissy/Ryan, I think he does tho. Also not sure if Cirie wins that F3. Jonathan/Wanda was extremely unfair, rumor was they were gonna be the Guatemala returnees before Bobby Jon and Steph. But at least they didn't get screwed out of a practically lock for $1,000,000 like Ozzy and to a lesser extent Devon/Cirie. Bottle twist was also bullshit but production didn't want the seemingly inevitable fate of the whites dominating the game. I don't believe for a second Aitu would have to vote 2 of its 4 members out if they lost that challenge. Fake merge wasn't so bad because Shii Ann never wins in any scenario regardless, if she flips to Chuay Gahn they vote her out 6th.
Can someone explain to me where the outcasts twist was on this list it screwed over Savage and Shawn. Shawn could have replaced Burton and the move to get Rupert out could have been earlier. Both players were equally robbed by this.
Omg I thought from the intro that you were going to put Anna Khait in there. I'm glad you didnt, she wasnt screwed at all. Good list! Aaron should be #1 though...what on earth could he have done?
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People act like the twists are only awful now, but the early teen seasons of Survivor also had a bunch of obnoxious twists. Michele, Aaron, and a huge chunk of the Cook Island cast were really screwed.
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@eager turtle as a egg sucker would say, “that would make the raro people go mental.......mental”
Lmao Parvati one the legends of Survivor was even one of those screwed by Cook Islands’ rigging to make sure white people don’t win.
I really relate to Rupert when he was sitting in the shallow water looking homicidal as hell.
I laughed out loud at this comment 😂
I just realized that Cirie and Ozzie are polar opposites. One is a challenge beast who would have made a final 2 because of his physical dominance, only to get screwed by a twist final 3. The other expected the final 3, only to get jumped by a surprise final 2, where due to their physical weakness had lost any shot of getting to the end.
Lol . Its true
And despite all those contrasts, they’re both still Survivor legends :) just goes to show that no matter how good you are, if luck is not on your side, you won’t win.
@CaptainAwesomesworld they choose weak people on purpose, plus they dont even have long before they start filming kid
@CaptainAwesomesworld I mean, after Panama she probably had no reason to believe she'd be invited back, and by the time she was she probably didn't have that much advance notice to actually get in shape, especially since in the final two she had to face off against Parvati and Amanda, two players who're definitely good at physical challenges, in an endurance based challenge.
Top three things that make me cringe
-Fortnite kids
-"I'd like to give individual immunity to Natalie"
"MeRgE?? I nEvEr SaId AnYtHiNg to GiVe yOu tHaT iMprEssIoN, did I??"
@@benfreedman8509 i am binging Survivor now on Hulu. What season was this?
@@kennethcole1886 Micronesia (season 16)
@@kennethcole1886 same im on season 17. which one are you on
What happened to Shee ann was fucking BS. that tribe treated her so badly then she got massively screwed by a twist. She was also the only interesting person left. Everyone else was boring as shit. I looked up who won (probably the least memorable person out of all the least memorable people). And just skipped the rest of the season.
I would have ranked mine definitely within the top 3, but I'm biased. Thanks for putting this together! Maybe I can get my second chance and avenge that stupid bottle twist!
Jenny, you were totally robbed! Would love to see you get a second shot some day, you were playing a pretty great game until that bottle mysteriously appeared out of Jeff's back pocket.
Idoled Out Thanks! Hope so!!
It's hard to know how to rank any of these twists since they all had their own unique way of spoiling the dynamics. 🙄 So nice to hear from you, though, and I hope you get a second chance as well!
You were robbed.
😲Omg!
The other thing about having a final three in the Cooks was if they had had a final two, Ozzy would likely have the record for SIX individual immunity challenge wins, standing alone on that pedestal, rather than being tied with Colby, Tom, Terry, Mike, and Brad
Eh, Ozzy is seen as the best challenge beast in the game's history any way.
And Bob.
What about Cirie getting voted out because of everyone else having advantages, and she was literally the only option despite the fact that not one person had written her name down?
I was thinking the same think. That was just R O U G H
Advantages are not twists. This is a TWIST video.
Pay some goddamn attention, good lord.
@@ThorHC11 The fact that everyone had an advantage was considered a twist. And piss off with your attitude. Get a life.
@@janelle1701 That wasn't a twist. It was hoarding. And it would be lauded as one of the greatest episodes of Survivor if anyone other than Cirie got screwed over.
@@rokeYouuer I have to disagree. The increasing volume and emphasis on idols and advantages were divisive at best well before Advantageddon. I saw mockery like "outidol, outadvantage, outtwist" thrown around frequently. Someone getting eliminated with 0 votes probably would have been more palatable if it wasn't a fan favorite, but I simply can't see that being universally lauded by the fandom.
Cirie Fields is the ultimate robbed goddess....Ozzy is the ultimate robbed god
Totally agree..Cirie & Ozzy are the two legends of Survivor who never won ..each one of them played 4 times , not expected to see them again.
I don’t think Ozzy was robbed though. Yul played a better game, Ozzy wasn’t as strategic and that’s a huge part of the game.
ezmac82 did you not watch the video? lol
omar adil he said recently if he’s asked to play again he will. And Jeff said a few years back he still can’t believe how popular he is after game changers so not ruling out Ozzy yet
Mark Jackson yes and I don’t think Ozzy was screwed by the final 3 change. In reality Yul would’ve been the one screwed.
Love how they listed Ozzy's job as a waiter when he was a stripper.
And he now has an Only Fans he advertises on his Twitter. Dude still looks fine as hell these days.
He also demolished his competition, I couldn't care less about his job.
@@DieAlteistwiederda you mean he has an Ozzy Fans
Dang he knew people would pay for an OnlyFans of him climbing trees and fishing
When they do the "30 seconds in " VOTE off I almost lose interest in the game. If I was on the game and sent off straight away to redemption island I'd just go home. People don't apply to be on survivor to not have a chance to win or even play the game
I'm still upset at #1. She was so likable and worked so hard to get in the position she was in and yet get voted off in a dumb twist. She deserves to come back!
Indeed
#BringBackMichelleYi
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J’tia was robbed by having to participate in challenges every 3 days
J'tia was robbed by having rice around camp to throw in the fire
J'tia was robbed by having only 5 tribemates instead of having 7 or 9
J'tia was robbed by being put in Brains tribe instead of Flops tribe.
J'tia was robbed when the Brian's couldn't build a shelter
hahahaha you and all the other commenters here made me laugh
I feel like Sydney from Survivor 41 would definitely make it on this list. She was in a very good position going into the merge but the hourglass twist paired with the plethora of advantages and idols floating around made her one of the only people able to safely receive votes in a 12 PERSON TRIBE.
The hourglass twist pisses me off so much, it goes against the absolute core element of Survivor. I'm happy Danny had the balls to speak up about it, even though I'm sure he's now on their "do not bring back" list because of it.
I feel like the hourglass could’ve been done a lot better, like time would reverse and the two groups would be redrawn and then compete or something.
The main issue with the hourglass though is how there’s no real reason not to do it other than fear your tribe mates will be upset. But either way people get upset, and one could help better your game, so you pick it. If there was a benefit to not breaking it or a downside for breaking it, I think it would be a lot better and more balanced. It was a cool concept, but it’s not balanced enough for it to be great.
Honestly you can say this about the other hourglass eliminated player, Lydia: at the bottom of the merge tribe there were Romeo Chantelle and Tori, who all gain immunity even if Tori was the only one to actually win challenges that episode. Everyone that could have been voted out had a great social play so Lydia just got eliminated for being the weakest link of them I guess
Also, Sydney was on the bottom, unlike Lydia
@@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong bro danny is a boring no lying no cheating kinda season 2 ass player. If he got his way there probably would not even be idols.
Before I even started watching this I knew Michelle is going to be no. 1. She is the poster girl of the most "Robbed player" in survivor history. Jenny hold the second place, Crissy, and Devon are imo robbed in bad way coz production wanted Ben to win so much.
Ben was the first time - really the only time - I have ever legitimately thought that Survivor was rigged. SO blatant.
Sean Wooldridge I remember before the twist was revealed, when Jeff teased it, I joked with my friends that it was gonna be that Ben automatically made it to the end, and then that actually happened
Winners at War made it clear that Ben was fixed to win that season. He has no idea how to play Survivor
Wow you guys are mega Ben haters. They had many tribals to get him out, but were too lazy to look for idols. That's why he found 3 in a row. He was the top threat from the merge onward, and they failed to get him out.
And he still had to win fire, and they were lucky he put an upside down U in the final challenge. It's ridiculous to decide something is "rigged" on the basis of not liking a player. There are many forms of lucky in the game, and every winner has gotten lucky at some point.
@@annacleverley307 just like this comment has made it clear how clueless ben haters are
The thing I never got was why galang voted out Candace instead of colton
Colton probably had pre-game alliances with people. And since Candace is a last minute addition, they probably perceived her to be the easy vote.
M. Alif Aryaguna Totally. Plus Colton is a complete non-threat, 0 physical game, arguably negative social game, etc. Candice was a young, attractive, athletic woman who had already proven to have an incredible social game in Cook Island. Also just to show the BvW pre-game alliances were definitely a thing, the reason Tina and Vytas blew up at Gervase and Tyson after the Aras vote, Bc the 5 of them and their partners were in a pre-game alliance, this why the typically cool, calm and collected Tina went off.
candice is a big threat and already a survivor icon by that time, but unlike rupert and tina, she have a bad reputation which why she got voted out. the twist was dumb af. i feel bad for jonathan wanda candice and rupert
Alex James it has to be just the alliance thing. It makes no sense to keep a weak player (because you think they’re an easy vote or a goat) before the merge if you still need to win challenges as a tribe.
The only reason Colton would go is for being annoying
We should talk about Janet from season 39. She had an idol for final 5 and was the best at making fire so she was set to make it to final 3. She was also well liked and had a good chance of winning the entire game. But she lost it all to a literal coin flip that gave Dean an idol nullifier, which is on its own an unfair advantage. I’m still mad
That was an advantage screw over, NOt a twist
Jenny is a queen. I don’t remember Michele’s season that much but I remember being bummed when she was voted out.
Thank you!
@@JennyGBYoga OMG hi Jenny! 🥰
@@trashbins7798 hi there!☺️
@@JennyGBYoga hope they will invite you back soon! :) a huge fan here, kababayan 🇵🇭
@@trashbins7798 I hope so too!
I knew Michelle was going to be no 1. Jesus, I hate so much that awful twist because she probabaly would be at final 3 for sure since she was closer with Earl and Yau Man and she was smart for herself, so she knew whats she have to do to win #BringBackMichelleYi
Roman Zolanski you have no idea how a season would end up. This is the dumbest thing ever. If she were so smart maybe she turns on earl and goes out.
Michele was one of the only likable players during that season imo
I think the most screwed player of all time was Cirie in Gamechangers (I know that 5 idols were played that night) but she was eliminated without any vote cast aganist her
ya should be in number 1, like people asked you how u get eliminated out , like how u ansewr that question lol
i would agree but that wasn’t a twist, it was just a bunch of advantages. she for sure would be first if that was the case
Speaking of Game Changers I was surprised Malcolm didn't make this list.
@@cdawg4021 yeah!! same
I feel Angie from Palau should be on this list. At a double tribal council, Ibreheim was the obvious target for his bad challenge performance. But Koror got to vote to give one of them immunity. And they gave it to Ibreheim. Angie was then voted out after a tiebreaker vote. Angie was even popular among the viewers. So this didn’t make a lot of people happy
Well even if this didn’t happen she would have been gone next.
MLB JOEY no because the men and women numbers would be equal. And Stephenie only voted against her because she knew the guys were voting against her. If Stephenie remained loyal, or if by some miracle Ulong won, Angie would probably stick around. Plus, Angie and Stephenie needed one vote, so they could probably sway Bobby Jon because James was weaker
yes totally agree, would love to see her get a second chance and I think had Ibreheim gone like he was supposed to Ulong might have won the next immunity
RIP ANGIE
Number 1 makes me say one thing.
#BringBackMichelleYi
She needs to come back for Second Chances 2!!
Yes!
Christian Hubicki was screwed by the twist of the slide puzzle on day 1 of David vs Goliath! How dare Survivor introduce that game breaking twist that made him lose. I will never forget Christian!
How did that screw him I’m so confused?
Nail Polish he showed his threat level.
gtac13 I think he showed his threat level easily by first impressions. From his appearance on first glance, you could tell he was a brilliant guy and I think his performance on the slide puzzle challenge only proved and validated this observation.
what he's the one that said that he created a algorithm for puzzles. lots of people are good at puzzles and if you dont announce it a lot of people dont notice.
Love your videos!
The Mutiny Twist may have had a chance to make this list... if the Aitu Four weren't such bosses!
The challenges were literally rigged for them though.
aitu four are rigged
@@a.jdeets5527 I am curious, what makes you say that? That is prob my fav season of survivor. Watching the Aitu 4, the underdogs, make it to the final 4.
Excuse me the challenges were not rigged, it just so happens that Ozzy and Yul were the beasts in every challenges. How dare you🤬🤬🤬
@@elizabetharmada4038 Adam and Nate could not keep up with them 🤣🤣🤣
Queen Kara not getting a single elimination vote the entire game, voting with the majority for most of the game, being well integrated socially and strategically, and being eliminated in fire should have been on this list. Her game is so under appreciated and it killed me to see her go home because of fire.
She probably would’ve won as well
Michelle's elimination was so saaaaad, I could not believe it. I'm still mad
Malcolm getting screwed in Game Changers was pretty bad too. And Cirie, again screwed over in Game Changers. Although I guess that's technically due to advantages, not twists.
Malcolm was screwed in Game Changers because JT was an idiot.
Exactly, that was JT’s fault
That Cirie thing made me so freakin mad
Thank you for including Jonathan and Wanda from Palau on this list. Palau is one of my favorite seasons, but that is my least favorite part of it. I look forward to your videos! Keep them coming!
That season would have been a lot better if ulong wasn’t a complete train wreck
Really after what happend to Ulong? All thought I will say production made a horrible decision not doing tribe swap after witnessing Ulong losing strick. They did not screw a player but an entire tribe. Also I heard a rumor that instead of Stephanie/Bobby Jon original plan was to place Wanda/Jonathan to compete in Guatemala. Also to add insult to injury no merge feist for Koror. Stephanie was sent to their camp with no food or anything. So Koror inhaliate Ulong with out any reward
@@popmans9999 What are you talking about? Koror won a crap ton of rewards. A shower. Cleaning products. A fortified shelter made by pros, and plenty of food rewards. They were living Survivor luxary. At that point, who cares if there isn't a merge feast?
@@roger_towny_jr True. But no merge fest? Come on
@@popmans9999 The whole point was to give them more incentive to bow out of the immunity challenge for food (which all of them but Tom did.)
Then there was a reward where half the tribe got a feast at a festival in which they brought a crap ton of food back to camp for everyone literally a day later.
They NEED to bring Michelle back!!! She was so sweet and a great player. Does anyone know if they tried to bring her back at any point?
I don’t think so, Earl and Yau were the only ones from that season to be contacted for other seasons. Shame though, she was put in a pretty impossible situation
I think she was asked back for heroes vs villains but declined
She was one of the only likeable players during Fiji imo
Nah it probably rubbed showrunners the wrong way that she had the train ran on her in ponderosa by the four horsemen 😂😂
Bji * are you serious?
From survivor 42, we could also add another Jenny onto this list: seriously she was part of a 4-2 majority but Chanelle casually took a hike and lost a vote because of that and Mike got punished for getting an immunity idol isn’t it so fun guys!!!
I thought Sandra was screwed over in the second tribe swap of Game Changers. She had control of the pre-merge in her previous tribes, but got placed in a terrible position with Varner.
I mean, the Fiji situation was basically a tribe swap but without the time to strategise. Even though I didn't like the Onion alliance, I think Charlie and Marcus should be on this list. The pole balancing challenge was clearly designed as an individual immunity but production changed it once they realised the cliquey alliance was gonna coast to the end.
Ben Faulkner I don't think Charlie and Marcus qualify cuz they weren't screwed that much compared to these people. Also, tribe switches aren't totally unexpected whereas these twists were completely random and unprecedented, plus Marcus could have done many things to save himself on Kota 3.0, and so could've Charlie at Nobag.
I will forever consider that Cirie was in the final 3 and just didn’t get any votes cause it bothers me so much 😪
I love Michele but if Stacey had gotten voted out we might’ve been robbed of “why don’t we vote Edgardo” iconic moment
i think they made the micronesia be final two bc of all the quits and medevacs would’ve shortened the days left on survivor so they needed an extra challenge to make it to 39 days
Kaoh Rong had the same but they still had final 3
Carlos Bernardo how many quits did they have? i only remember the old guy and the merge medevac one
yeah this is exactly why they did that.
@@carlosbernardo1074 but in koah rong there was only two medevacs. Micronesia had two medevacs and a quit.
Mack Jorgensen there were actually 3. Joe, Caleb and Neil
completely on point Aaron was the most screwed survivor twist victim ever until Michelle.
MFING OZZZZZZZZYYYYYYY!! Final 3 & the god idol in Cook Islands. Then screwed in South Pacific and was one of the poster child’s for now why in the final 4 the immune person picks 2 to make fire. Sophie would have picked Alberto and Ozzy would have beat coach in fire making and would have got every vote to win... still so upset Ozzy doesn’t have a win. Would have been awesome to see him in Winners at War
I can see him being screwed over in Cook Islands, but how on earth was he screwed over in SP when he even needed a twist to save him after he had been eliminated and he then lost fair and square in an immunity challenge?
This one still hurts..... Ozzy should Have won South Pacific... Damn you Sophie!!!!
Voted out thrice. No returnee from redemption should win. He failed socially by being a bully to cochran causing him to flip. And hes never been good strategically.
I look forward to these videos all the time
I hate the final four fire making challenge. So unfair, to this day.
At the very least, players now know about it ahead of time and can strategize accordingly.
After the 1st one, if someone thinks it’s unfair, then they don’t deserve to win because they didn’t prepare to win Survivor or survive
I like it, assuming the players know ahead of time. The 3 that survive get to represent the 3 pillars of survivor
Outwit - have good social game and be taken to the end by the necklace holder
Outplay - win the final immunity challenge
Outlast - have better survival skills and make a good fire.
In practice the “outwit seat” just goes to the goat, but in theory i think its a good representation of the 3 pillars
i don't necessarily like it, but there are winners/finalists that cannot even start fire and are also very lazy at camp, that's why the twist is quite ok to me
Brenda in Fans Vs Favs 2. I felt so sad when she won the family visit challenge and was given the option to let all the other people have the visit instead. It was a choice she couldn't possible say no to, or risk everyone being furious with her, and then they all voted her out anyway.
The entire Have not tribe in survivor Fiji I couldn't even watch the season because of how unfair it was
Had Lex not given into Rob, Amber woulda been on this list for sure
Keep the videos coming we love watching them
Your channel is so so good! So entertaining 👍 thanks!!
So does the term “don’t get idoled out” refer to when Cirie, quite literally, got idoled out of the game (in game changers I believe)
No, idoling someone out is just playing an idol successfully and voting someone out
That Michelle vote out was really really really unfair
wow!!!! I didn't think you'd list Michelle Yi first! I wasn't even sure you'd add her to the list! but she and Shii Ann Huang were the first two I thought of when it comes to players who got screwed by a "twist"....
Sylvia in Fiji got really screwed as well. The players elect her as the "leader" because she was responsible for organizing the building of the entire "haves" camp, so she gets put in the position where she's guaranteed to join whichever tribe will end up at the "have-nots" camp.
Wait.... is the OG screwover with Marquesas' PURPLE ROCK DRAW not on here?!
In fiji Earl had to win easily , bc Cassandra did not do nothing she was a completely usseless , and dreamz was a liar and asshole . It would be more interesting if Michelle and Yao Man got final 3 or even Boo and Stacy. Cassandra and dreamz were the worst finallist ever
Candace was screwed she would've easily made it to 8th Place again
LOLz
Exactly she never even got to be on a tribe
I think Malcolm from Game Changers 100% belongs on this
That wasn’t a twist though, just a horrible move from his ally. I wonder, is there a video about contestants who got screwed by their allies? I’d put him at number one on that countdown
Tbh I feel like the whole Ulong tribe was screwed. I feel like some of the tribe members would make it far and potentially win the game. But because the tribe just dwindled and had no tribe swap. Stephanie really had no winning chance with that bad of odds. On a side note it was so blatant that the production wanted Ben to win. He found like 3 idols in a row along with that unfair fire making twist.
he found those idols on his own you idiot. and did you not see the tribal where mike went home?
@@lafingscarecrow I know he found those idols on his own, but have you not seen the speculation about production keeping him with that twist? There was no way the three of them would take him to the final.
@@strawberrymermaid8825 they had that twist planned before the season started, and if ben had won that immunity challenge, that were going to do it anyway. there is zero proof of production favoring ben.
@@lafingscarecrow that's why I said "speculation", and a lot of people think it was rigged, and that production kept him because they wanted him to win the season. Also you can search up "was Ben's win on survivor unfair", and you get a lot of articles.
@@strawberrymermaid8825 a lot of articles that are nothing but bullshit
I'd say the entirety of Ravu were the absolute most screwed by a twist. Moto got to eat and shit in a toilet and have abundant food, THREE sets of fishing gear and even beds and a couch...
And they were left licking palm leaves for droplets of water to stay hydrated.
Terry dietz was a beast. Bummed when he went out
I so enjoy how the producer's intent and the way the game plays out don't work. The first time the final 3 happens and the "wrong" player wins was such a satisfying slap in the face to the makers of the show. I also like when host Jeff gets a taste of his own medicine.
Fiji yes, but you forgot the other bottle twist where the winning tribe either goes to tribal or loses their camp.
Never should you be punished for winning
What about Paschal English from Marquesas? His elimination was the most unfair in Survivor history.
Nick Wuebker
Katie in BvW and Jessica from MvGX both got the same twist screw.
Paschal's situation was unfair but it could've been avoided if he'd flipped on Neleh and made it unanimous.
@@elijahculper5522 The thing was that Paschal was sent home in something that would never happen in a modern season. Paschal's elimination was why the fire making tie-breaker was made.
I think the rock draw rule was known to the players at the time (even though it was the first time viewers saw it). That is all the players had a fair shot at preparing for the situation.
@@airtempest8945 no the rock draw is still there until final 5 or something
The bottle twist and late merge will forever hurt Yul’s reputation imo. Not to mention how OP the idol was.
Savage kinda got screwed by the Outcasts twist as well
Finally someone agrees with me. Shawn was screwed aswell
Savage was screwed in Pearl Islands by the outcast twist
They also quit having water challenges after ozzy first season since he was so good at swimming. Loved seeing him swim!
Easily my favorite RUclipsr
Going to argue that Stephanie Lagrossa twist deserves a number one. If you don't remember it's the "Tribe of 1" in Survivor Palau!!!!
OH THAT GAMESTOP JOKE AGED LIKE FINE WINE
It feels like Jeff's goal with Survivor 41 is to make sure there's a Part 2 to this video
We can be 100% sure the bottle twist was inserted midway in the game. With a mutiny, it is entirely possible that 1 tribe only has 2 people before that challenge. Production could not have planned that beforehand.
How about Jamal Shipman? He saw an advantage hanging from a tree, grabbed it, and it turned out to be a lose a vote with 10 people left in the game. He ends up going home in a 5-4 vote. Literally stupid. What could he have done differently? Not grab the advantage? How dumb of a move would that be. Personally my least favorite twist ever added.
Wait that happen? Now that is a really unfair twist. I though Tony getting extorsion was bad enough. It seems part to is need it
But Jamal made final 12 tho...
So how did he lose his vote if it occurred at final 10?
Edit: Yeah you got some stuff wrong buddy. Jamal didn't even go home in a 5-4 vote on island of the idols.
Uh he actually went home 6-3-2 so not really that close...
i agree that it was unfair but it would not have changed the fact that he went home
a way to counter the idol nullifier is by playing another idol because the nullifier only blocks one idol.
So the idol nullifier nullifier technically already exists
Also Chrissy's advantage was getting the knowledge that she had to send two people to a fire making challenge
No, because the nullifier is n the urn and comes out as the votes are being read, meaning it is too late to play another idol
You need to update this. That 3 way idol they are playing this season is screwing people!
“Favorite All-Star seat filler” 😂😂 why you gotta Candace like that
Cirie. That is all.
I think after 3 widow brigade formed production changed their mind and said if they make it to final 3 will do final 2
popmans9999 No the reason they switched from a final 3 to a final 2 was because James got evacuated late in the game. That threw off production’s plans and had them vote out an extra person.
We need to see Chrissy and Devon play again.
One screwed player by twists are
1. Aubry most likely would have won season 32(Koah Rong) but because Michele voted out her best jury member who most likely could've convinced others to vote aubry and been an extra vote in a close 5-2 win
I know that yeah, the Palau thing was unfair, and yeah we're not supposed to say how Jonathan and Wanda did it to themselves, but...I still find it hilarious that according to Tom and Ian, Jonathan's social game was so bad that half the cast thought his name was "Kevin", which made everybody paranoid they'd missed someone, lol.
3:59 " You mean Candice from raro tribe?!?!?!"
Came literally the year after this video, but I think an honorable mention here should be the Do or Die twist.
Essentially this twist forced players to pick between a chance at immunity. If you sat out from the challenge, no punishment. No immunity, but no punishment. If you played the challenge, and were the first one eliminated from the challenge, then you would be subjected to this awful twist. At tribal council, you would pick from 3 boxes. 2 boxes had a skull. If you picked a skull box, then you were eliminated from the game right then and there. If you picked correctly though, you got immunity right on the spot and couldn't be voted out.
This twist only showed up in 41 and 42, did not reappear in 43 or 44 and will most likely not appear in 45 either. And while no one was actually eliminated through this twist, it's still messed up that after 20 years on TV with fans outwardly acknowledging they want to see eliminations based on skill and blindsides they would introduce this. I mean, they even got tired of all the emotional crap at final tribal council that saw good players lose for playing a great game that they stepped in and directed conversation towards the aspects of the game: Outwit, Outplay, Outlast. So how is getting eliminated through this twist any of those?
Apparently, on 41, one of the players verbally lost it on Jeff when he introduced the twist claiming it wasn't fair. He was never subjected to it and lost it on him after the challenge. But it speaks for itself that fans wholeheartedly agreed since it hasn't been back yet and here's hoping it stays that way. Pretty sure it only appeared in 42 because filming for that season took place before 41 aired on TV so fan reaction wasn't around then. But it's not hard to see that it was going to be negative.
What about Dan being freakin bamboozled by the idol nullifier lol in DvG?
Bonus: In terms of twists, I’ll add Jeff Varner to the list for both “Second Chance” and “Game Changers”.
He was a power player in “Second Chance” who sealed Vytas and Shirin’s fate early on. But the early tribe swap put him in a bad spot afterwards.
In “Game Changers”, the second tribe swap put him in the minority along with Sandra. They had to win challenges to avoid Tribal Council. They lost and we all know what happened afterwards.
Survivor Fiji really was just twist that screwed players upon twists that screwed players wasn’t it.
My heart still breaks for Cirie
I thought Savage was going to be included. Lil getting back in the game totally screwed him.
Tysm for including Jenny
#BringBackMichelleYi
#BringBackMichelleYi
I second you
#BringBangMichelleYi
Has she ever been asked to come back? I’m surprised she’s never been back.
She always fall to the ground
I still mad to for Michele, so many years later.
wasn’t the final 3 created *specifically* to counter any day 39 medical evacuations? on day 39 of panama, aras was almost medivacked because of him tripping and getting some glass stuck in his back, almost causing danielle to be the winner by default
Big Chill aras was not getting medivaced. He would have went to the hospital and came back for tribal
Damn you really had to insult the man, THE one and only Rupert like that?
I'm of the opinion that Ozzy is #1 for the simple reason there's a 99% chance he wins if not for that twist. Devon as well but I'm not 100% sure if he wins the F3 against Chrissy/Ryan, I think he does tho. Also not sure if Cirie wins that F3. Jonathan/Wanda was extremely unfair, rumor was they were gonna be the Guatemala returnees before Bobby Jon and Steph. But at least they didn't get screwed out of a practically lock for $1,000,000 like Ozzy and to a lesser extent Devon/Cirie. Bottle twist was also bullshit but production didn't want the seemingly inevitable fate of the whites dominating the game. I don't believe for a second Aitu would have to vote 2 of its 4 members out if they lost that challenge. Fake merge wasn't so bad because Shii Ann never wins in any scenario regardless, if she flips to Chuay Gahn they vote her out 6th.
Ozzy had a chance at a million dollars and lost to sophie. Theres no way yul is 1% against ozzy you are insane.
wanda robbed godess needs to come back.
Can someone explain to me where the outcasts twist was on this list it screwed over Savage and Shawn. Shawn could have replaced Burton and the move to get Rupert out could have been earlier. Both players were equally robbed by this.
Omg I thought from the intro that you were going to put Anna Khait in there. I'm glad you didnt, she wasnt screwed at all. Good list! Aaron should be #1 though...what on earth could he have done?
The video should be called 'The worst trade deals in the history of trade deals...maybe ever.'
how u get eliminate out of survivor?, hhmm school yard pick
Haven't watched Survivor in years, but these videos? Every day.
I'd also say the Fiji twist of those have have not camps was a big screw you twist
Michelle from Fiji is one of my absolute favourites. She was just so sweet, smart and likeable.
The Wanda and Jonathan one was pretty rough honestly.
wow, our top 2 picks matched 👍
11:58 did i just hear "the worst trade deal this side of GameStop"?
That Palau twist is the worst ever ! Jonathan needs a second chance