BYD Seal Premium: 2 Months Later! Better Than My Tesla Model 3? Long Term Update 2
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- IMPORTANT UPDATE: At the time of filming, the latest OTA (over the air) update hadn’t been released, which has fixed most of the Driver Assistance Tech concerns noted in this video.
Please stay tuned for a follow up assessment once I get into another Seal as I have now handed this vehicle back.
THANKS FOR WATCHING
I've been renting this BYD Seal Premium for a couple of months (at time of filming) Time for a brutally honest long-term review update. I'll compare it head-to-head with my previous Tesla Model 3, revealing where the BYD Seal excels and where it falls short.
In this video, I'll address:
Tech and Features: Is the BYD's infotainment as good? What features do I love, and what's frustrating?
Build Quality and Reliability Any unexpected issues or quality concerns?
The BYD Advantage: What does the Seal do BETTER than the Tesla?
Where Tesla Still Wins: The few areas where I miss my Model 3 (omg, seriously the world's best integrated car app!)
Overall Verdict: Would I recommend the BYD Seal Premium over the Tesla Model 3?
Thanks to ShareEV.com.au for adding this BYD Seal Premium to their fleet for our agreed upon rental period. We have paid to rent this car for our review period, and if you want to rent an electric vehicle to see if it's the right move for you and your family, visit www.shareev.com.au for short term rentals, rideshare-ready vehicle rentals, corporate evaluation testing rentals and more.
Two months of ownership makes your opinion far more valuable than a reviewer that has it for a day and has the PR team’s blarney still ringing in their ears. Especially having owned a Model 3 previously you are quite entitled to compare the two.
I am seriously considering trading my 2yo Model 3 for a Seal Premium. It has a driver’s display and a HUD and 150km more range than my car while still using an LFP battery. I have tried the new ‘Highland’ Model 3 and the Seal feels more ‘premium’.
Thank you for your feedback and appreciate the kind words. I’ve actually been renting this one for the long review so that I could test it with Uber for the public feedback which has been super insightful.
Seriously contemplating doing more rental long term reviews and incorporating Uber rider feedback, although I don’t have quite as much free time as I did at the start of the year.
What people seem to forget is that it’s not saying the Tesla Model 3 is bad, rather saying the Seal does quite a lot of things better.
The indicator alone makes me not want a Tesla hahaha
Great review, I've had similar experiences with my Seal Premium. The 2310 and 2401 updates have addressed most of the ADAS system niggles too. I picked up some mats from Rubbertree and they've been great so far. One thing I find funny is that I barely look at the dash screen because of the HUD. If the new M3 had 1) LFP beyond the standard range 2) indicator stalks and 3) the premium sound system range wide, I'd probably have gone with Tesla. I've been really happy with my Seal, even just charging it from the wall socket has been fine
Awesome to hear! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment also, greatly appreciate the feedback
10:45 i disagree, i think the premium is the sweet spot
The HUD is a great feature and the acceleration in the premium is decent as well as the range offered.
The Premium variant is only RWD? The Performance Model (top spec) is AWD.
Thanks for watching and for the feedback. Be sure to stay tuned for more EV content
Oh where are you from? Thanks for your kind words, I aim to review other specifications shortly
Great review. To me lack of a HUD in a Tesla is a deal breaker. I have a model y, love the car but the squeaks and rattles, plus the glaring absence of HUD annoy the hell of of me. byd definitely in the shopping list after they release the suv version of the seal, hopefully with awd
They’ve definitely got some exciting product coming
You need to compare it with Tesla model 3 highland and not with an older version
Suspension of new Highland is still trailing others including BYD Seal for comfort (dynamic handling Tesla excels)
Other key things I have noted are not different between the 2
I think this was a great comparison. I own a Model Y but if I were looking for a sedan, I genuinely think it's a hard one. Everyone's deal breakers are different, mine might be the lack of stalks and parking sensors on the Highland. The Seal seems like a good alternative, but I use the Supercharger network quite a bit that it would be a change in driving/charging behaviour if I travelled with a non-Tesla. There's also needing to service a BYD like a traditional ICE. As I said, at the moment it's a tie for me (and that says a lot considering I own a Model Y).
Thanks for your feedback. Some very valid points, although I wish Tesla mandated checks every year as I often see Teslas in my area with illegally low tyre wear (often uneven) and this would be picked up by an annual inspection. $200-400 is a small price to pay to keep everyone safe and to potentially save early replacement of tyres through rotation etc.
The $10-15k difference in price makes up for the inconvenience of needing to service the BYD, although for me, I LOVED the Tesla app, it makes the car so easy to live with, something I know BYD will evolve to, however is currently lacking.
@@roadtrip_reviews Can't say I agree with annual servicing. $15k difference is significant though so on that I might agree.
The ota update has the show camera while turning
Oh brilliant! Keen to test it out!
In regards to charging at home on a regular wall socket, how long it takes to charge 25%?
I’m looking at Seal Premium just for city driving, no plans for long hwy driving.
I would say overnight would be fine to recover the range lost during your regular commute.
However I would recommend installing a single phase, 32amp wall socket and charging your car this way, as it’ll do the full car in 4-6 hours.
This install is typically $600 and is the most cost effective way to charge from home.
@@roadtrip_reviews thanks mate, I have only single phase, not sure if 32 amp will go on single phase. I have 10.5 kw solar and would be ideal to use that during daytime to charge.
It can do mate. I have a video short in the feed about how I did mine. What city are you located in? I might have a contact that can help you. I only have single phase myself
Good review mate, have you updated to the newer version of software?
Thanks for your feedback. Sorry, forgot to add the update in the description. I filmed this prior to the update, I believe these items have been improved since then!
My next car will have to be a EV. BYD is top on my list. Hope more charging stations will be build in Malaysia by then in a couple of years. Very informative tks. Looking into byd seal n otto. What's your experience on the millage per charge? City n out station drive?
Thanks for watching, mileage depends on the models you buy but also weather and use of things like AC etc. Both the Seal and the Atto 3 are great options.
By the way, I have been contemplating releasing videos in other languages including Malay, would you find this beneficial?
@@roadtrip_reviews i am Malaysian Chinese English is fine. Tks
Two questions: How does it drive compare to the model 3. Secondly, does it estimate battery percentage when you set navigation, and how accurate is the estimation. The Tesla is pretty accurate and helps address my range anxiety.
Tbh I rarely used the built in navigation for my Tesla (only when driving between Brisbane and Sydney) so I didn’t even check. Most of the time I used Apple CarPlay with Google Maps for while in the BYD. I’ll have to retest again
The drive I find comfier and more normal than the Model 3, however the Model 3 was seamless and easy due to the app
I did 5000km in the AWD and it broke, isolation fault kept going into limp mode. byd have had it for a month and no fix yet. currently have an RWD for 3000km and it has some issues too. rear door handle on one side doesnt pop out, theres a rattle in back white wheel area
Sorry to hear. Where in Australia are you based?
Would be great to get your take on the base version.
Trying to arrange that with BYD as we speak
Have you updated to the most recent softaware OTA update available here in Australia? Has fixed some of the annoying sounds et cetera. Wondering if you have as our Performance is on order and hoping it’s improved the audible warnings.
So, I made a note in the description to let people know this was filmed prior to the update being released, however I am told by others it has improved.
I will be making a video in the coming month regarding the update once I get back into another BYD, however there are some reviews already for the update with Ludicrous Feed worth watching.
Great review, I took the base model seal for a test drive , straight after driving the premium dolphin, and it made the dolphin feel cheap , unfortunately because the dolphin is the car size I want , but the seal was fantastic I think that’s about the most I would pay for a new car , can I ask what economy are you getting from the premium seal around town and also do you think it will last as good as a Tesla 3 , cheers
Thanks for your comment and for watching. Around town is worse than my Model 3 in stop start traffic, approx 16-17kWh/100km. My Model 3 was marginally better than this.
On the highway however is where this excels at 11.2kWh/100km
@@roadtrip_reviews what excels the BYD or Tesla ?
@@roadtrip_reviews 11.2 kWh/100km would give this a range of 736 km. Are you sure about this number?
@@xDwayne9815 definitely sure about the figure. Is this sustainable for the whole time, no. Just like my Model 3 on the highway was 13-13.5kW/100km and never achieved the range that would indicate
With all the tech in these EVs is there a temptation to play with the infotainment screen while driving?
Nuh not at all. Even when I use carplay in other cars I rarely use the screen while driving
Probably the first few days you will messed around but once you got use to it and applied your prefer settings, you tend to leave it. Also the voice command to adjust settings works great as well.
Does the sunroof open?
Fixed roof for the Seal
My floor mats in any car have had wear an tare in that same spot regardles of rubber or carpet its just a ware and tare area lol get some floor mats :) Question? has this car recived the OTA update?
Incorrect, most press cars I use for reviews normally don’t have such wear in under 5,000km. In fact, most don’t have that wear at 10-15,000km either.
They’ve just chosen the wrong material for the carpet, but that’s being super picky at a car that does so well in most areas.
Also, no it hadn’t received the OTA update at the time (your comment reminded me to make that note in the description so thank you)
The sound of BYD door closing is sound better than Tesla Model 3 door closing sound Rattle.
Yeah for sure. I think this might be because of the frameless design, if you roll down your window about halfway on the Model 3 the rattle goes away haha
@@roadtrip_reviews Surely I want to do that when is raining. Is one of those thing that Tesla owners will have to live with it. The frameless thing kind of rattle on my BMW i3 as well. I don't have that car anymore, got the BYD Dolphin instead lol.
any idea how is the battery temperature control system used by this car?
It’s trash
Unsure, however I can do some research into it
Can you review the paint quality and anti rust?
This video can provide better insight into the full process undertaken by BYD for rust prevention.
ruclips.net/video/MalQIn3vCwQ/видео.html
The paint is very thick on the plus side, but the clearcoat and paint are quite soft. You'll need to wax it or use ceramic coating (if parking undercover) to avoid etching. A Pom youtuber living in Australia reviewed the paint at a shopping centre with a tester and found it's pretty good. They even paint and clearcoat some sections that you'll never see
What has been your average energy efficiency? That's one thing that many mentions as a weakness in direct comparison with the highly efficient model 3?
Worse in the city (approx 15-16kWh/100km) but amazing on the highway at 100km/h (averaged 11.2kWh/100km each 1-2 hour highway test)
@@roadtrip_reviews That's really good. Much better than the figures of around 20kWh/100km I've seen other people report!
Its the AWD version that got high consumption. The RWD seems much more efficient.@@TheRealBlueSwan
@@UgglemannenFTW Seems like it, I guess!
@@TheRealBlueSwan Yeah I got the AWD version and its around 20 kWh/100 km in Sweden. So will probably get lower consumption during summer.
this is a BYD Seal not a Tesla 3..... if you so missed 3 features then just get a 3.... sick of ppl keep on saying the Seal doesn't have Tesla's this and that..
Relax it is competition.
Byd is crap if compare to Tesla model 3. 2024.
Incorrect, I would still recommend people compare both. There isn’t $15,000 of difference between the 2 cars for what most people who aren’t tech geeks will use
Relax, that’s how reviews and comparison s work. Model 3 has been the benchmark for many years, and it’s direct competitor.
@@roadtrip_reviews great to hear you are enjoying your car! I think the more competition the better as both the Seal and TM3 highland are very good, and I went Tesla and don’t regret it. And I assume you are comparing to your old model 3. Here is hoping that they all keep getting better - safer, cheaper and more efficient. I am sure this will happen with more choice in EVs already happening this year.
compared to 30,000$ SU7 xiaomi, this is a bit overpriced.. but i still love my BYD seal
$30,000 USD, however we don’t get the Xiaomi SU7 in Australia so not as relevant
Thank you for watching. Definitely exciting to see what comes from Xiaomi
That's the price in China, and there, the Seal is significantly cheaper.
Su7 is gay
Su7 is 85k in Europe and 95k in us.
Hint: take the fast wearing out of the floor carpet as a clear and obvious sign of the build quality and focus on keeping costs down versus making something that’s going to last. The Walmart effect.
Great. Take one small aspect and generalise for the whole thing.
@@71Hamed that’s not the only thing by far. Go into the frunk. The lid cover is the flimsiest piece of plastic you could ever (not) hope for. They use sub par parts throughout the car to keep costs low. You get what you pay for.
The lid feels no different to how my Model 3 interior plastics felt.
And taking the carpet wearing quickly isn’t a sign of overall build quality.
My Model 3 steering wheel started bubbling and peeling early on and the taillights kept getting condensation. Didn’t mean the whole car was terrible.
Hint: Tesla rattle and creaks with paint coming off the bonnet seams, removing parking sensors, stalks is a clear and obvious sign of the build quality and focus on keeping costs down versus making something that’s going to last. The 2 Dollar shop effect.
How well the battery lasts may be an issue?
Not likely seeing as Tesla and Toyota are both buying batteries from BYD and BYD have been leaders in battery tech (all applications) for about 30 years
Why do people thinks BYD have issue with batteries? Is it because is a Chinese brand? They develop and make LFP batteries which is way safer and better then the NMC batteries that used on other brands. Not to mention BYD is one of the leaders on making battery tech and other company like Tesla also buy batteries from them and Apple also buy BYD components and BYD assemble iPads.
@badboy250984 so with rc batteries, there were 4 factories around the world. Both cheap lipos and expensive brand name lipos came from the same factory. The difference was the quality checks. The more expensive batteries had better cells. Also, theres a lot of reports on youtube of byd fires in china.
@@bryanstackpole1951 So does Tesla on fire?
@badboy250984 they do but allot less often. So do petrol cars. The 4680 batteries have a feature to stop thermal runaway.
some people here so NaCl
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The operating system is horrible to use, the beeping when u go over the desired speed limit is terrible, a feature that you can turn off tgen it turns itself back on again automatically nah yer ok ill skip this its like going from apple to 15yr old android.
The beeping had been improved from the most recent update. Unfortunately this tech is now becoming more common in most new cars. Just picked up a Hyundai Kona to review that does exactly the same and needs to be turned off each drive
Byd seal had to add extra motor and battery to 83kw pack to keep up the same performance of my car. That increased seal over 300 kgs of weight. The seal will fall off great Ocean Rd to keep up with me in my Tesla. Imagine the extra cost to run it and tyre wear. Good luck if u buy a seal.
Both cars are capable of achieving the legal speed limit just as easily.
I’m sure the $15,000 that BYD owners save vs each Tesla Model 3 specification will more than cover the extra set of tyres you’re speculating it might need.
@@roadtrip_reviews I just had a test drive BYD Seal, I feel the vibration on the steering wheel is quite significant when passing rough asphalt road, feels like not enough cushion on the front wheel axle, do you feel the same ?
Goodluck for Byd: buying your disaster!!!!….😊
Well, that’s one way to show you have little understanding of the automotive industry or who BYD are.