WILL IT CAVE IN BEFORE WE FIX IT ???
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- This foundation for this garage is a complete disaster!! We were trying our best to get this fixed before the entire garage caved in. The clay soil had completely eroded the concrete block wall and it wanted to topple over before we could get our wall braces in. We used the dry stack method for Building the block wall because it was faster and more cost effective and we could keep the weight of the garage on the wall as we moved along. This is a good way to do a DIY foundation repair. I also would not hesitate to do a foundation out of dry stacked blocks that are parged on both sides with Comproco fiberglass reinforced block bond. Testing has shown this method to be stronger than a laid wall. If you combined that method with some good core filling with rebar and a bond beam on the top that would make for a strong DIY house or garage foundation.
This was our house, they saved us from a total diaster. They were very professional, honest we are very glad Bondo was one who helped us. I'm not sure anyone else could of done what Bondo and his crew did in a very efficiant time. All we can say is Thank you so much.
So what did he pay you to say this ? ( joke)
You are more than welcome Dave. Just glad we caught it in time before it got worse. 👍
@@scottb6098 LOL 🤣
That's what happens when you get the best in the business.
@@MrSprintcat Thanks
Nice job! You essentially created about a 6' wide foundation compacting that material. I couldn't tell from the video if the blocks were Haydite, they didn't look like concrete. I was in the masonry business my whole life and we never ever buried them. I spent a summer when i was 16 doing nothing but replacing full 8' foundations. My dad bid a whole neighborhood of rental houses and nearly all the foundations were caving in. I was worked like a rented mule. Oh one thing you want to thing about. Never place a block on it's side and put weight on it. You were centered, but I have seen a few scaffolds crash down after guys used them to level the ground. Makes an eerie pop!
Before you end your videos can you give us a 1 week post reconstruction picture? Would be nice to see a fully completed project. Maybe a before and after shot at the end. Would be satisfying. Compliments to your workers. Hopefully you pay them well.
im sure they get minimum wage ;)
Dry stack with surface bonding. That was a first for me. Very interesting.
Not good at All
This is a great educational video for why foundation drains are needed. I never thougt about how much concrete blocks can deteriorate in that situation. A real eye opener. Bondo does some really good work on this.
That is one lucky homeowner to have you and your crew repair that garage. Well done sir!
Oh, I did cringe a bit when I saw how that garage was supported by those 6x6's while you were working under it.
Ya it was a bit scary. LOL
Gopher needs a raise. I can't hardly find anyone to work, let alone dig like that. You and your crew deserve a big pat on the back for your hard work. Great work, crew!
Thanks Ben and yes I keep raising him as he gets more skills. 👍
What a great team. Excellent construction knowledge and no fancy marketing department full of wet behind the ears graduates! I'm from the UK and would hire you tomorrow but for the travel and hotel costs. Well done Bondo, Gofor, Biscuit and the concrete haulers.
Thanks for that comment.
Nice work. I dont understand the drainage system. The pipes dont go away from the house. How does it drain water away from the foundation?
Good question. The house had a drain that went to daylight that was working. We tied the NEW garage drain into that existing and Working drain.
Very risky job, the result is AMAZING!!
thanks.
I love these saves you guys do Bondo. Really heavy duty work but you saved the homeowner tons of grief down the road. Mission accomplished.
Thanks glad you like these videos. Hope to save people some grief by showing how things should be done.
How is " dry stacking" concrete blocks is going to hold anything?????? Any kind of ground movement and they will fall off each other....
We coated both sides of wall with a fiber reinforced plaster mix. Its been proven stronger than a mortar layer wall.
You should get a beak attachment for the skid loader for concrete demo. Works way better than forks!
Makes a mess and lots more work cleaning up. I love forks
from my experience on such cases I will not allow to use hollow concrete blocks as a foundation or wall below NGL instead I recommend stone masonry or concrete shear wall especially on submerged soil and I appreciate the use of drain pipe it will be more perfect if you make it perforated too to drain the surrounding water too and a geotextile wrap around the pipe to protect the backfilling from erosion/ or piping effect formation, water proofing the walls also protects from dampness and algae formation due to moisture.
Really enjoyed seeing your process. As a restoration carpenter i can appreciate figuring out how to "do it from the inside out" Great attention to details and doing it right. That's quality and looking out for your client. You've got a great demenor and seems like you and your crew work really well together.
Is it cost effective for the home owner if they need to deal with another failed block wall in a mud pit? Those blocks were rotten, thus something in the mud is eating away at the blocks. The failed wall was plastered and clearly it didn't work. That old drain pipe is likely plugged solid.
They were a bad block for the most part. We tested the old drain and it was pulling water and the old way the garage had all clay and no drain and now it is all stone and gravel and a drain with good blocks it will last 100 years.
This might be the most impressive build I have seen from you guys. No "one step forward, two steps back" approach. I'll bet that vinyl siding was "conveniently" hiding most the defects/sins. -Brian
Why is the blocks falling apart like that ? Did they steal the sand from the beach to make those 😂
Lol no idea but they were bad.
How do I judge your work? Not even a dust flew off this shelves inside the garage even with all that hammering and thing.😅 Godd job guys
Thanks 😀
In the uk we would use brick or block which is different for below ground, doesn’t absorb water like normal brick. Not saying it’ll never fail but it’s sure better than what the original builder used.
What is the idea of the very thin rebar on the plastic below the concrete, as it is not raised into the concrete it is not going to add much to strength of the new slab?
Can't understand why You americans always put the outside drain ABOVE the footing?? Here in Scandinavia we MUST install it with its top BELOW the footing.
Concrete has the peculiarity to always strive for equal humidity throughout its whole body.
We always put our drains like you do but in this case the footer was trench poured so we couldn't. It was 3 feet wide in spots. LOL
Wow that wall was junk
Those finishers in the blue shirts.. You can tell right away they're elite and know what they're doing. Super fast and efficient. Amazing job.
USA & their cardboard houses..
Is your country ripping you off with construction material quality/costs as well?
Please don't think this is how a foundation is repaired in the States.
This is one of the best videos I’ve seen in long time, you guys did awesome job to save this garage. I’m amazed that place didn’t come down, you would think that it should’ve just started sinking into the ground, one morning the door handle be in the mud 😂. Great work by the guys , that had to be back breaking with all that hand digging. 👍👍
done a lovely job, i know its a ball ache, and extra money you didnt think off, but its as good as new. nothing to worry about in the years ahead. Really nice to watch.
Why didn’t you put steel post to get rid of those ugly wood ones Inside the garage? Did you put concrete inside the wall around back and the side?
Cost was why we did not replace the posts. He did not want to spend the extra money and yes we poured wall cells solid with rebar every 4 feet into the footer.
Are those weighlite block. Pourus as he'll Bondo
I loved your repair, fantastic work. I don't understand the original construction of the garage. Why dig down about four or five feet below grade to pour the footer (on an out building with no crawl space) just to build up to grade with four or five rows of block? Is it because of the freeze line? When they were originally building the thing wouldn't it have been better to have trench poured the footer (from whatever depth is required for the region/county) up to about four inches below grade, or even better 4 inches above grade?
I am fixing to hit 69 and I can remember doing that kind of work for most of my life. I built houses, apartments and high rise buildings and Bridges THEN, I did home repair and improvement . I also did lots and lots of foundation work repairing bad work I also majored in floor repair for many years before I finally had to retire. I called myself the Floor Doctor. It was hard work but for a young man it was rewarding work and it paid better than working in some factory waiting for bells to ring. I miss doing it, I miss being able TO DO IT. SO Be happy in your work boys if you live as long as I do you will miss it to...Getting old means you can't get in gear like the old days especially for me two heart attacks a triple bypass and 7 stents later LOL. I do enjoy watching you work. I too used to run a bobcat and a jack hammer and a cherry picker and a dump truck and a front end loader and a forklift etc. etc. Yehaww the memories. ..Yeah those were the good old days for me. You guys do great work no doubt about it, YOU KEEP IT UP AND I WILL KEEP WATCHING YOU SWEAT LOL
Bondo for the win I had a neighbor here I tried to talk him into a dry stack and then use the mortar that he had bought is just like a stucco he wasn't having it you should see the nightmare of a block job I said it's not structural it was a brand new double wide mobile home nice place but you know I was like hell $3 a block since we were friends. He wasn't having it but you know they did a real bad job it was so bad that he just sold the place lol. I did two corners to get it started I mean we were friends but I wasn't going to do it all for free he stayed down in here in my front yard in a nice little pull-behind camper with a fifth wheel I said well you know I like campers too they paid almost $100,000 for that thing... His daughter called down here and said come up here I told her I don't get in front of another man's job that was a real nice job you did for those folks you really saved that. 🎉🎉🎉 That was a quick fix on a nightmare
Biscuits said; Mexican Counterweight…. What’s next Alabama Wind Chimes ???
What about the rest of the house. I’ve never seen cinder blocks that had any strength. I would expect it to be poured solid. I never did see you pour those new walls with concrete. I thought you said you would. Rebar without cement is useless.
AS to the question why those blocks disintegrated . There are two types of concrete blocks . CINDER and concrete. Cinder is made with ash and can disintegrate. I suspect they used cinder block - They tend to have a more grey porous appearance and are lighter
Didn't know that 👍
how come the cinderblock is just exposed to the elements that not normal is it??
Yes its normal but drainage was missing and poor soils.
Educational! So what does a job like this cost? Ballpark estimate will do. $5K? $10K? $20K?
do u have to follow a engineers detail(plan)or just fix it how u think best ?nice work ,not easy.
Thanks. You do not need an engineer to fix things around are area. I knew what it needed from years of seeing crazy stuff like this. LOL
I've subcrontred a few concrete jobs. At first I thought they were headed for a "world of screw up", BUT I watched carefully and they did pull off an AMAZING FINISH!
I was concerned at the start of the pour that didn't specify exactly what "slump rate" they wanted.
Thanks. I like to look at it and go from there. some of the drivers slumps are different if you ask for the same slump. LOL
What is the frost depth in the area of that house. With all the water around and freeze thaw would destroy those blocks.
48" but frost did not do this it was water flowing and erosion.
Very nice work. Dry stack with the surface bonding concrete plastered on both sides is strong. Prob a lot stronger than regular layed block.
Mr. George.... how much for the guy.... give goffer a raise
I did. lol
cinder block foundations are the worse thing to use especially if you dont use rebar and core fill them.
At least old blocks were cemented to each other....dry stacking doesn't hold anything. ......
At my CBS built house, I can see CBS outline cracks through my stucco at the corner where the shower is. The shower is leaking. Are my blocks going to disintegrate like the ones in this video?
don't think so. These were bad blocks and in the water for 30 years.
@@bondobuilt386 Thanks for the reply!
Concrete blocks are crap for foundation walls, we never use it for foundations where i live. When we use it for above grade walls we put a lot of horiz and vert rebar in it but we are in a very high seismic zone
So what good does the mesh do if it’s just laying flat on the ground when you’re pouring the concrete?
We pulled it all up with our potato rakes. Watch again
Was this an acidic soil combined with poor drainage issue. Great video, learned a lot here. Thanks!
I think you should have used vapor barrier and waterproof the wall on the outside before back filling it , the same problem might occur again .
The comproco fiberglass parge coat is a waterproofer as well
@@bondobuilt386
Just checked out the product specs. Good stuff . I would have filled the cores to the last course but i always do overkill. But for this customer it comes down to time and money. Great job.
Curious why not core fill the existing blocks and parge as you did?
Those blocks were shot. No saving them.
I wonder if their house is the same way?
No house has a drain and stone so it was good.
I'd be a little nervous to be underneath there knocking out bricks like it's nothing..
Yeah definitely looked sketchy..
You guys do good clean work that’s gonna last forever. Great video!
You guys did an awesome job!
Thank you
How much more did this add to their floor replacement? Seems like it would cost more than the original job.
Yes it more than doubled the price as the foundation was way more work than the floor.
It appears the drainage pipe you tied into has a blockage, looking at a lot of standing water around the pipe.
Yeah I wouldn't have tied into that existing pipe without verifying it went somewhere and it wasnt clogged. Probably would have tied in and then run a pipe through the yard and hopefully daylight it somewhere.
Building inspector.... what's one of those says the cocaine cowboy,
I'm not even trying to guess the year this was built.😂
I'm guessing 1980's
This guy should be arrested. I fully expect failure to start within 2 years. I don’t know what he raped this customer for either. No engineer worth their shingle would ever approve this abortion. Just to give you one thing to think about… He removed the block… what did he do to stabilize the ground below that block wall? Start the lawsuit now… save the time.
You're completely wrong Stephen. There was a real good footer about 3' wide under this wall 12" thick. The footer or ground under it was not the problem. It was the clay soil and water that deteriorated the old block wall. We solved all those problems with proper stone and pipe for drainage and backfilled the rest with crushed gravel. We drilled rebar into footer and core filled every 4' and bolted the old wall to the new foundation. This was a super good fix and I'll bet you have never built a thing in your life if you think this is bad work.
@@bondobuilt386 Sorry denied… And you wondered if I ever built or repaired anything like this in my life? Five crews working 5-6 days a week running a foundation company. So yes… thousands of homes.
@@stephenc2296 Well if you run five crews and still don't have a clue thats sad. Your comment shows no relevance. The footing was sound and the problem was fixed end of story. Move on and get to work and stop bashing people on RUclips. Keyboard warrior and an internet troll is what you are.
How is that wall going to hold up like that I ant herd of anybody doing it like that that
YOU must deal with the water and have the site dry before you get too far with this!
Is there any reason to doubt that the attached house’s foundation is in equally bad condition?
I was thinking the same. If so they know who to call!
The garage might have been built at a different point so the house might not have the same issues. Just a possibility but I have no evidence to support that it was!
Why haven’t you addressed the water shouldn’t there be a drain installed
Hey team! We are in drier part of South Africa and so glad we don’t really have the water problems. Good job! Love your videos. Was this job in the north somewhere? I love what sounds to my ignorant ears like southern accents on the boys. Learning all the way here. 👁️
Hi thanks for watching from so far away. so cool. We live in New York state Just north of Syracuse.
Seems to me a very cheap repair to a very poor construction
Oh, a Bosch jackhammer. This i like to see as a German. :D
Usually outside walls underground are waterproofed with that black tar paint and fabric or a waterproof black plastic sheeting....no?
The Comproco is a water proofer also.
Fascinating that you can deconstruct the stem wall like that. So you went down to the concrete poured footer, and then dry stacked a new wall up? Than parged and core filled every 4 feet or so? How do you core fill since the top of the block wall isn't open? Amazing.
We cut the sill plate to expose the cell of the block.
@@bondobuilt386 Ahhh OK makes sense now.
He said it 2 or 3 times in the vid
@@mrmotofy sorry, missed that. that's why i asked the question. never saw them filling the cells through the sill plate either.
That right there is why we don't do masonry walls bellow grade in Québec. With frost, those kinds of problems are unavoidable. Given just how much of the US can get frost from time to time, I just don't understand why theses are allowed. All it takes is soggy ground and a few days of freezing temperatures and you've got yourself a compromised wall. Theses really should have been poured in place concrete walls.
Drainage is the key to a block wall and it will last 100 years.
Quebec is "special".
@@blackmanops3749 No more than almost half of the continent which was once covered by a gigantic glacier. The result is that on much of the continent, the soil layer is a few feet at most, and much of it consist of fine silts and glacial clay that can swell when wet. This is a very wide spread problem in North America. We really should not be building masonry walls bellow frost. They just aren't strong enough to take the kind of thrust that glacial clay can produce. We recently had to replace a retaining wall that failed because of that. The foundation just a few feet beyond that was just fine.
Why do Americans build houses out or such garbage materials? How have those blocks crumbled in just a few years? Crazy
It is like 30 years old. But yes they were crap blocks.
who signed off on that 20 years ago ..... sue them .... .... are the blocks on a footing .... why isn't that a solid poured .. foundation 6 feet tall with rio
It had a sufficient footing under it but the blocks were bad and with the wet soil it deteriorated. These folks bought this house used
I never seen someone plastering block and saying that stronger then actually laying block with mortar do not understand that; I’d would never ever have someone do that to my house. How is that’s supposed to stand up to the outside pressure through the years no way no how; My God, you lay block like normal contractors
I lay block all the time but in this case this was the better method and it has been tested for strength do some research.
Excellent work, sorry to say there are a LOT of contractors that would have just ripped out the floor, re-pour, and be in the wind when it fell apart as the garage settled...
Thanks and I couldn't sleep at night if I did that to somebody.
many thanks! Yet if it is just a detached garage I would like redo it. Could you tell me how wood post stands on, why wood frame would drop down when you remove the foundation?
It would drop because of gravity. No foundation under it and it would just fall.
Did this New York County actually have building codes?
They do now but probably not when it was built.
Mezzanine.... your welcome...🤣😂😎🇦🇺👌 can't believe you never had to take the stuff off the shelves.. great job all round.
Awesome job. My back was killing me after watching those guys work.
*Cring* Never build concrete-block without grouting! And enforcement.
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mesh not lifted / no chairs under mesh
- duno about reo mesh on the plastic at the bottom of the slab - appears bit dodgy
- nicely finished job overall
Mesh was clearly lifted watch the video again and pay attention this time.
Psssst hey Mr Guy there in the camera ... we're over here to your left and not over there to your right ;o) just kidding around :o)
LOL 😀
Not proper at all. Dry stack and parge with a quarter inch of fibered mortar? Would like to see after 2 seasons of freeze thaw.
This method had been proven stronger than a mortar layer wall. I do both methods and this is a good way to do a repair that the blocks need to be put under a existing structure.
i have never seen forks pull out concrete ,works real well.
Yes they came up nice.
I hade to do this to a 3 full foundations in Woodbridge Ontario. The concrete company that supplied the concrete to the masons used road sand. And in Ontario they use salt mixed with the sand. Within a year the foundation could literally be kicked and to be busted open. Extremely good pay for even harder work.
If garage foundation was like this, House foundation will be the same.
No we checked the house and it was good because it had a drain around it and the blocks were a different king. It was rock solid thank god for the customer.
why no mortar between blocks?
Is it smart to do the demo from under the house if you don’t have to? Plenty of times in this video you guys worked under the house when you could have done it in a safe manner. Weird
We had to go under the house to dig everything out by hand. We had it braced up real good IMO it did not move.
Maybe my favorite video on youtube right now. Inspiring
Awesome thank you 😊
Tremendous job and the clients are lucky they found you
Great video. I also love how you didn't make this 40 videos, like a lot of people lol
Some people don't like the long videos but a lot to show here. LOL
Never seen a dry laid block foundation. Interesting!
Neither have I. What state are they in that this passes code?
I have a 2ft stump bucket with a grapple that i use for concrete removal. Works very good
Cool I need something for concrete removal.
From one mess to another 😂
if your relying on wood to hold up your house yes its a disaster waiting to happen! 🤷♂️🤔🤷♂️
Why no waterproof coating
Is there any mortar between the blocks you're laying? Seems like that would be a good idea.
I think they said plaster was stronger and faster.. also they filled them with concrete every 4 foot?
Only thing is not sure exactly how they filled it. Probably before the last block on top went in
you can dry stack the blocks and use rebar every 3 or 4 feet and fill the cells that have rebar.
Nice thing is weight can be put on immediately, saves time and money and is perfectly safe.
did this same procedure on my small cabin that had rotten cheap concrete.
@digi3218 lol it's not good I'm a real mason btw unlike these guys 🤣
@@makmar4484 mother earth news tested fiber coated walls and they were stronger than conventional mortered wallls. Much stronger when coated on both sides, and there is adhesive for blocks too
doing the right thing it's the Bondo way. just glad i didn't have to do the gopher's job.
Thanks. Yup he dug alot on this one for sure
What a mess! How do you even begin to list the substandard original construction? Water problems multiplied by incompetent builder equals near catastrophic failure.
what good are those rebar if there is no cement to ancor them in?
this staking and not filling them wil not hold when the frost sets in.
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Wow Really, It's spelled..."Footing"...Not "Footer"......makes you sound like a Fool!
Hows that Septic Pipe where the ADS Pipe should be on the FOOTING......Next Please!!
I like these long vids and I sometimes slow them down to .75 speed to take in detail. Great work. Thx.
Awesome. Some do not like them long but I wanted to show the entire fix on this one.
Man what a fucking mess that was.