Thx for the wonderful video. Very helpful. We have ordered a NX450h+ but here in Texas we won’t see it for another 15 months from now. We just got on the list. We will be referring back to your videos in the future. We do enjoy watching. 👍
Hi, just one question. Do you now what is the maximum amps. charger to use in this vehicle? Recently i bought a level 2 charger and inside there is a selector for the amps. to be used. Is up to 50 amps. Should i select 32 or more? Thank's!!!!!
The car accepts a maximum of 32A. Even if you set your charger to 50A, the car will only take 32A. So setting it to 32A would be enough. Unless you have other vehicles that support more than 6.6kWh.
Ended up getting the SplitVolt plug Nema 14-30 24amps. My panel is on the other side of the house so I had electrician add on/off switch and plug on opposite side of shared wall with dryer. Much cheaper and utilize car charging scheduling to charge at night to not interfere with dryer use. I can charge at anytime since I am on electric company Regular Rate instead of Time of Use rates. NX450h+ can take 28amps and set NX to 6.6kw Max in settings and had no problems. At most it takes just over 3 hours to charge.
That's great. That would have been my choice if I had to install something. My dryer plug is in the basement and it's close to to the garage. Just need to feed a cable over to the garage and have it split. How much did it cost?
I don’t remember since I added it for my 2017 Tesla Model S back in December, 2016. I charge between home and the supercharger one mile from my house. I have free supercharging and premium connectivity for life of the car. NX450h+ is now my daily driver but still have the Tesla.
great video... like many others I have been trying to look for a solution. Driven the 450h+ over 9,000 miles so far. It sure is nice to use a public charging station at 220 and have been looking for that for a home plug in... I did read in the manual - the Lexus advises against using an extension cord of any kind. I did like the extra detail you took in sharing with us the rating of the cord you used... I took am concerned about the cable overheading from Lexus or the extension cord or pig tail into the plug overheading. You didnt go into a GFI? BTW - Hi Ted Witte, this is Marcus Witte, living in SoCal and originally from WI
If you use GFI, the split will not work as it will trip the GFI socket. Lexus advises against using an extension cord because most people will just use a normal extension cord and it will definitely overheat. I tested this method and touched the cord while it charge and it didn't feel hot at all. It is critical you have the write extension or else it will be bad.
Thank you, I got my nx450h+ 2 weeks ago, been watching your videos nonstop . Right now I only have 110v regular charging at home, it would take 12h anyway, dose it matter to set schedules? For me it just feels like an extra step asking me if immediately charge when plugged in.
The immediately charge question is asked every time you power off your car. It's useful if you go to a public charger and want to charge immediately. If you already have a schedule, you don't need to press anything. You just exit the car and let it go away.
I'm not an electrician, but I don't think that is possible. 2 plugs in a different circuit gives 240V. Making 4 plugs won't make it faster. You most likely burn the cable.
Thank you for this very informative video. I was especially glad to see the last minute or so were you used an external charging station. We currently have a Tesla Model 3 and a Tesla charger in our garage. I don't like the Tesla so we're getting rid of it because of the interior. It's just too much hassle to go through the touch screen for everything, otherwise it's a good car. We're looking at the 450 h+ but it's not available here yet. I have an important question for you. The Tesla charger in our garage is 35 KW hour, level 2. I know I can get an adapter that changes the proprietary Tesla plug to the standard J1772 plug that is what you have on the NX, and that is what other power stations use. Do you think I might be able to use the standard Tesla charger I have in my garage to charge this battery using the 1772 adapter?
In Europe, We have 220V charger so we do charge 6 normaly or 2,5 hours from Wallbox (380V). I think the reduction for 110V users is very helpful. For the NX, those 6 hours are super OK for home charging.
Thanks@lsft. I will take possession of the vehicle this week. Does the NX come with a 6.6kw charger? I upgraded my electrical panel and had the electrician install a 240 volt plug (50amps)in my garage nema 14-50. Do I need to get an adapter to use the 240 wall plug? Thanks again
The NX comes in 2 chargers 3.3kW or 6.6kW. You will have to check what version you have. In Canada, all NX450h+ comes with 6.6kW. If you already have a 240 volt plug, you will need to get an EV charger like ChargePoint or Grizzl-E level 2 chargers.
@@lsftthanks for the reply. I don't need the level 2 charging, I'm fine charging it for 5-6 hours...it's better for the battery.. I live in BC so it'll probably come with the 6.6kw charger. I guess I just need to get the adapter so I can plug it in directly to the 240 volt outlet
You will need to get EVDoubler 240. But you already have the 240 outlet for a level 2 charger installed, should you put the money in getting a level 2 and skip the EVDoubler?
Still working well. I don't use it that often as I don't need it to charge up in shorter time periods. Typically overnight would just be level 1 and if I need a faster charge then I would connect this.
Ok, so my 120v is super slow and I'm looking at this option. What's your experience so far? If it's still good, what's the exact part # I need? Thanks for all your videos and help!
Experience is great. I just used it on the weekend since I used up all the EV range in the morning and I used the EVdoubler and the car was full for my evening ride. The part number is: EVDOUBLER -120V which is for 2x 120V plugs that are on a different circuit.
I've got my nx450h+ with 6.6 kW onboard charger. I would like to have a 2.5 hrs charging capability at home. Do I need to buy external charger or would be enough to use J1772 plug connected directly to 240V and 32A? The owners manual specifically indicate that car is equipped with "6.6 kW onboard traction battery charger " i am confused because most of my colleagues telling me that I need to buy external battery charger. What is your recommendation? Edward
Edward, Your colleagues are correct. You do need to buy an external EV charger. The EVSE that came with your vehicle is rated at 120V at 12Amps. That is the max you can get. In my video I have it with the EV Doctor to bring it to 240V @12Amps. If you need 32A, you'll need to buy another evse or an EV charger to get the 2.5 hrs charging time. Hope this helps.
I actually do not have a wall charger. The 12 hour charging seems to work for me. If not, I would use this EV Doctor to charge it in about 6 hours. But a few NX owners have installed wall chargers and they are using: ChargePoint Home Flex or the EnelX JuiceBox Do some research on them and see which one works for you.
When I charge my 450h+ here in the UK, the mobile app reports that the battery is at 100% and EV range is maybe 50 miles but that there is still 30 minutes of charge time remaining until full. During these 30 minutes, the EV range doesn't change; the battery remains at 100% but it continues to pull maybe 1KWh for the 30 minutes. Do you have any thoughts as to what it's doing during this period?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm? charge my car overnight......Sleep zzzz! who cares about speed........Additionally, in my research (specifically " Battery University" ) it is better to charge Batt's S-L-O-W for longevity! NOTE: " The battery university does tend to suggest that, in general, lower charge rates lend to longer battery life. "...Soooo what's your hurry & you will zzzzzzzzzz Better!
I don't sleep more than 8 hrs and by the time I go out, it won't be fully charged. There are scenarios where people will need a faster charger. The fastest is level 2 at 2.5 hrs, but this mention is only 6 hours which is still not the fastest possible. But it does give me the opportunity to charge during the day and have a full charge at night when I go out. It may not be for everybody, but at least you are aware this works.
@@lsft Gee...Glad you get your sleep however when you get home from work approx 6PM simply plug your car in while you are having dinner and doing whatever Clearly enough time to charge via 120V...Me ThimK's you are suggesting you get home every night at 10PM....long day however, Still if you simply plug this in and work from 8AM to 10PM that's a 14hour day OUCH! every day. You are one HARD working Gentleman!
@@donaldbanner2185 Well, I'm currently working from home, so I really don't need to rapid charge as I don't drive as much as I use to. It's more like after work, I have dinner with friends and get home around 10. Then I'll need a faster charge since the 12 hrs won't work. But that's still rare at the moment.
@@donaldbanner2185 you assume too much. Everyone has different lifestyles. Gym, food, friends, errands, other plans.... I'm rarely home 12hrs at a time. The range isn't a a lot either... So 12hrs to have ~65KM range is nada. 6hrs is also much slower than the fastest 2.5hrs... So your still extending the life.
Thx for the wonderful video. Very helpful. We have ordered a NX450h+ but here in Texas we won’t see it for another 15 months from now. We just got on the list. We will be referring back to your videos in the future. We do enjoy watching. 👍
I'm glad these videos are helping you make up your mind in getting the 450h+
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to pass on all this information to everyone about the various charging options.🙂
If you have a 240V level 2 charger, then this is not needed. But again, you need to figure out what is best for you.
Hi, just one question. Do you now what is the maximum amps. charger to use in this vehicle? Recently i bought a level 2 charger and inside there is a selector for the amps. to be used. Is up to 50 amps. Should i select 32 or more?
Thank's!!!!!
The car accepts a maximum of 32A. Even if you set your charger to 50A, the car will only take 32A. So setting it to 32A would be enough. Unless you have other vehicles that support more than 6.6kWh.
@@lsft Thank's. 👍👍👍✌️
Ended up getting the SplitVolt plug Nema 14-30 24amps. My panel is on the other side of the house so I had electrician add on/off switch and plug on opposite side of shared wall with dryer. Much cheaper and utilize car charging scheduling to charge at night to not interfere with dryer use. I can charge at anytime since I am on electric company Regular Rate instead of Time of Use rates. NX450h+ can take 28amps and set NX to 6.6kw Max in settings and had no problems. At most it takes just over 3 hours to charge.
That's great. That would have been my choice if I had to install something. My dryer plug is in the basement and it's close to to the garage. Just need to feed a cable over to the garage and have it split. How much did it cost?
I don’t remember since I added it for my 2017 Tesla Model S back in December, 2016. I charge between home and the supercharger one mile from my house. I have free supercharging and premium connectivity for life of the car. NX450h+ is now my daily driver but still have the Tesla.
great video... like many others I have been trying to look for a solution. Driven the 450h+ over 9,000 miles so far. It sure is nice to use a public charging station at 220 and have been looking for that for a home plug in... I did read in the manual - the Lexus advises against using an extension cord of any kind. I did like the extra detail you took in sharing with us the rating of the cord you used... I took am concerned about the cable overheading from Lexus or the extension cord or pig tail into the plug overheading. You didnt go into a GFI? BTW - Hi Ted Witte, this is Marcus Witte, living in SoCal and originally from WI
If you use GFI, the split will not work as it will trip the GFI socket. Lexus advises against using an extension cord because most people will just use a normal extension cord and it will definitely overheat. I tested this method and touched the cord while it charge and it didn't feel hot at all. It is critical you have the write extension or else it will be bad.
Thank you, I got my nx450h+ 2 weeks ago, been watching your videos nonstop . Right now I only have 110v regular charging at home, it would take 12h anyway, dose it matter to set schedules? For me it just feels like an extra step asking me if immediately charge when plugged in.
The immediately charge question is asked every time you power off your car. It's useful if you go to a public charger and want to charge immediately. If you already have a schedule, you don't need to press anything. You just exit the car and let it go away.
@@lsft thank you!! That question is driving me crazy
Just ignore it when you turn off the vehicle. It's only useful if you are at a public charger and you want to charge your car now.
In the very last part of this video, you are using a public charger. Is that at a Lexus dealership? Thank you.
It's a public charger offered by the City of Richmond Hill. It's not a Lexus Dealership.
@@lsft Thank you.
this is a great video, I wonder if it's possible to get *4* 120v outlets going at the same time and maybe get a full charge in about 3 hours?
I'm not an electrician, but I don't think that is possible. 2 plugs in a different circuit gives 240V. Making 4 plugs won't make it faster. You most likely burn the cable.
Thank you for this very informative video. I was especially glad to see the last minute or so were you used an external charging station. We currently have a Tesla Model 3 and a Tesla charger in our garage. I don't like the Tesla so we're getting rid of it because of the interior. It's just too much hassle to go through the touch screen for everything, otherwise it's a good car. We're looking at the 450 h+ but it's not available here yet. I have an important question for you.
The Tesla charger in our garage is 35 KW hour, level 2. I know I can get an adapter that changes the proprietary Tesla plug to the standard J1772 plug that is what you have on the NX, and that is what other power stations use. Do you think I might be able to use the standard Tesla charger I have in my garage to charge this battery using the 1772 adapter?
Is your charger a 35Amp charger or kW?
Some existing 450h+ owners have used the Tesla charger with the J1772 adapter. It will definitely work.
In Europe, We have 220V charger so we do charge 6 normaly or 2,5 hours from Wallbox (380V). I think the reduction for 110V users is very helpful. For the NX, those 6 hours are super OK for home charging.
It's good that Europe uses 220V. Much faster charging by default.
Thanks@lsft. I will take possession of the vehicle this week. Does the NX come with a 6.6kw charger? I upgraded my electrical panel and had the electrician install a 240 volt plug (50amps)in my garage nema 14-50. Do I need to get an adapter to use the 240 wall plug? Thanks again
The NX comes in 2 chargers 3.3kW or 6.6kW. You will have to check what version you have. In Canada, all NX450h+ comes with 6.6kW. If you already have a 240 volt plug, you will need to get an EV charger like ChargePoint or Grizzl-E level 2 chargers.
@@lsftthanks for the reply. I don't need the level 2 charging, I'm fine charging it for 5-6 hours...it's better for the battery.. I live in BC so it'll probably come with the 6.6kw charger. I guess I just need to get the adapter so I can plug it in directly to the 240 volt outlet
You will need to get EVDoubler 240. But you already have the 240 outlet for a level 2 charger installed, should you put the money in getting a level 2 and skip the EVDoubler?
@@lsft not too sure. I was looking at the ev website and they have the 14-50 nema adapter.
@@joelego3728 Yes, they have an 14-50 adapter for the EVSE that is supplied by Lexus. Just double check with them to ensure it's all good.
The bigger question is can the stock charger power cord handle 220V? if not you can make heat and cause a cord fire.
My stock charger can handle it. EV Doctor asks what model of the EVSE you have.
How is your experience with this extension cord so far? Is still working well ?
Still working well. I don't use it that often as I don't need it to charge up in shorter time periods. Typically overnight would just be level 1 and if I need a faster charge then I would connect this.
Thanks for the insight. We'll be test driving the NX450H+ in a couple of weeks to hopefully get an order in!
Looking forward to hearing about your experience. I heard it's 18-24 months wait. 😬
I waited 3 months, in toronto.
@@gy9801 When did you order? What trim did you order?
@@lsft February, premium package( basic model)
@@gy9801 I heard now it's much longer.
Ok, so my 120v is super slow and I'm looking at this option. What's your experience so far? If it's still good, what's the exact part # I need? Thanks for all your videos and help!
Experience is great. I just used it on the weekend since I used up all the EV range in the morning and I used the EVdoubler and the car was full for my evening ride.
The part number is: EVDOUBLER -120V which is for 2x 120V plugs that are on a different circuit.
I found the part and just ordered it. I also confirmed my 2 sockets in the garage are on separate breaker 😎
@@rodulfol that's great. It's the plugs side by side? Or you need an extension cord?
I'll need an extension for one of them so I'm going to get a sterdy one like yours.
@@rodulfol make sure you get an extension that does not have a light at the end. Mine is 12 gauge.
I've got my nx450h+ with 6.6 kW onboard charger. I would like to have a 2.5 hrs charging capability at home. Do I need to buy external charger or would be enough to use J1772 plug connected directly to 240V and 32A? The owners manual specifically indicate that car is equipped with "6.6 kW onboard traction battery charger " i am confused because most of my colleagues telling me that I need to buy external battery charger. What is your recommendation?
Edward
Edward,
Your colleagues are correct. You do need to buy an external EV charger. The EVSE that came with your vehicle is rated at 120V at 12Amps. That is the max you can get. In my video I have it with the EV Doctor to bring it to 240V @12Amps.
If you need 32A, you'll need to buy another evse or an EV charger to get the 2.5 hrs charging time. Hope this helps.
Which one level 2 character you would recommend?
Which one do you have?
I actually do not have a wall charger. The 12 hour charging seems to work for me. If not, I would use this EV Doctor to charge it in about 6 hours.
But a few NX owners have installed wall chargers and they are using:
ChargePoint Home Flex or the EnelX JuiceBox
Do some research on them and see which one works for you.
When I charge my 450h+ here in the UK, the mobile app reports that the battery is at 100% and EV range is maybe 50 miles but that there is still 30 minutes of charge time remaining until full. During these 30 minutes, the EV range doesn't change; the battery remains at 100% but it continues to pull maybe 1KWh for the 30 minutes. Do you have any thoughts as to what it's doing during this period?
I don't know exactly what it is doing, but it maybe conditioning the battery so that it can run on optimal temperature???
I noticed towards the end you range was 940km is that for a single charge? Combine with petrol ⛽️ in the tank?
That's the guesstimate for the petrol. I really don't know if the guesstimate includes the EV Range.
Where to see how many kWh you’ve charged during session?
You can't with the current software and setup. If you have a level 2 charger the charger may have that info.
@@lsft thanks I just thought that I’m stupid and can’t find it.. do you know are there any upcoming updates on this?
@@marcinlag1 not that I'm aware of. You should provide the feedback using the mobile app and see if they will respond.
@@lsft sure, will do that and let you know
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm? charge my car overnight......Sleep zzzz! who cares about speed........Additionally, in my research (specifically " Battery University" ) it is better to charge Batt's S-L-O-W for longevity! NOTE: " The battery university does tend to suggest that, in general, lower charge rates lend to longer battery life. "...Soooo what's your hurry & you will zzzzzzzzzz Better!
I don't sleep more than 8 hrs and by the time I go out, it won't be fully charged. There are scenarios where people will need a faster charger. The fastest is level 2 at 2.5 hrs, but this mention is only 6 hours which is still not the fastest possible. But it does give me the opportunity to charge during the day and have a full charge at night when I go out. It may not be for everybody, but at least you are aware this works.
@@lsft Gee...Glad you get your sleep however when you get home from work approx 6PM simply plug your car in while you are having dinner and doing whatever Clearly enough time to charge via 120V...Me ThimK's you are suggesting you get home every night at 10PM....long day however, Still if you simply plug this in and work from 8AM to 10PM that's a 14hour day OUCH! every day. You are one HARD working Gentleman!
@@donaldbanner2185 Well, I'm currently working from home, so I really don't need to rapid charge as I don't drive as much as I use to. It's more like after work, I have dinner with friends and get home around 10. Then I'll need a faster charge since the 12 hrs won't work. But that's still rare at the moment.
@@donaldbanner2185 you assume too much. Everyone has different lifestyles. Gym, food, friends, errands, other plans.... I'm rarely home 12hrs at a time. The range isn't a a lot either... So 12hrs to have ~65KM range is nada. 6hrs is also much slower than the fastest 2.5hrs... So your still extending the life.