I never realized charged assault had that up time on buffs. I've always wanted a reason to build whisper though. Idk why but I love the idea of single target boss slayers
I ran little hydra before the change, and now all the vids are around old hydra. Are their ways to optimize these builds/runs with the new rules? As you pick team and have critical debuffs or buffs, then suggesting alternatives would be worth the time…. Love your simple approach to videos. I watch most of what you make!
I got Whisper when she came out, for prime or whatever it was, when I was still early-mid game and she was killing it for me. I've seen her go multiple times in clan boss like damn how many turns does she get lol
btw, Hex on aoe's works out to roughly a 2% bonus per target, because it happens for every target that gets hit. its about the same as single target in most places and only slightly worse in hydra.
Oh man i really have her on my vault!!😂 I was looking another of your super videos and found this! And i barely do the first chest.. i really wanted a boost. Continue the great job man! YNWA!!
You need an average of 2.67 hits per attack for Giantslayer to equal Warmaster. In Clan Boss, there is a damage cap on those abilities, so you need 2 hits per attack.
Your timing on this was very good. I actually built a Whisper to do just this, b/c I also noticed that she can have full uptime with her buffs. Thanks for sharing your results.
She was my first epic when I started playing, I used her for everything for the first 6 months. I'm going to dust her masteries and gear her up now, thanks!
I think its really cool that hex is making single target nukers more viable. So many champs that are good but not really used because they dont have AoEs. Also I was kinda ready for numbkeks after that intro!
@@lianghou7000 All I was doing was making a comment, that whisper, (in the run he just did in this video) did as much damage as my geomancer normally does in an ultra nightmare regular CB run. I don't know how that's so impossible or hard to understand. Not saying you can substitute one for the other, not saying that you should use one over the other one in a team. Not comparing them in any way whatsoever besides saying that whisper did as much damage on Hydra as my geomancer does on an ultra nightmare run on UNM clan boss. I'm just making a damage comparison. Geomancer does decent amount of damage on an UNM daily clan boss. Whisper does a decent amount of damage on this run on hydra....... They both do a lot on their respective "runs". Saying it's impressive that she can do as much on Hydra as Geo can do on UNM clan boss. THAT IS ALL 😭🤣
Awesome vid!!! I've been sitting on her for awhile...trying to build a good 3rd Hydra team and you definitely brought some toons to light!! Thnx Nub & keep up the cool vids!!
So how is the hex doing the extra damage? I'm a little fuzzy on that part. I didn't see anything in Whispers, or Mithrallas kits that mention ancilliary damage?
@@TheCrusher112 Thanks for the reply. I can never find these details in game. I have Mithralla, I guess I've never noticed. I wonder it it procs warmaster? Probably not. I'm absolutely gonna build my Vault queen Whisper :)
If you want to guarantee Mischief spawning on your run, bring in Counter Attack. This is nice! I have had a 60, fully Mastered Whisper sitting in the vault... I built her to get through KR Faction Wars because I didn't have Faceless. Might have to revisit her!
Just a question .... Is there any difference either you level up your fodders first before you feed them to your epic or legendary characters or is it ok to just feed them as soon as you already got them when you break some gems in the portal??? And why????
12 days ago i know.... but the only reason to level up food champs before you feed them to someone is to get the extra points in a champ training event. If there's no champ training event/tourny then leveling your food is just wasting resources
Relentless is god tier but not required. You can run her in reflex so your always slamming the move that ignores defense.(though that can mean less extra turns from autos to an extent) Or just w/e gear you have laying around that will keep her alive and smacking. Like he says in the video you get quite a bit of flexibility since you only have to build her with the 70% crit.
Imagine you use skull lord instead of oboro. Can keep decay fully provoked by himself, fills the mischief tank roll, i even have mine in guardian to soak some damage as well since his base stats are so crazy
He's fully aware of Skull Lord. Oboro is optimal hear because Whisper self buffs with 2 buffs... Oboro puts 5 buffs on herself. This allows her to always have more than the rest of the team including whisper...
@@benjaminroe311ify Of course he is aware - His videos are the reason I use Skull Lord. But my theory is that the extra turns will keep team buffs off of Whisper for the most part, so while she does self buff, she's getting rid of the increase speed etc faster. As well, if you put Rector over Aniri, you get another buff, a way to deal with the fear head, and you likely don't get that buff put on whisper all the time as she'll be the squishiest member of the team
One combo I would still like to see is a hex champion together with knight errant, he hits hard and can now spread some of that damage with hex. He just never gets any screentime because of his outdated nature
Is raid dying? The answer is no because you nub are single-handedly keeping it alive with your CPR: the infectious enthusiasm in these hydra videos. You keep up the interest in the most hated and flawed content raid has ever released. Plarium owes you a huge debt of gratitude. Hopefully in exchange they will listen to your critique of the most flawed portions of Hydra. Specifically the interaction between Hydra heads getting extra turns and the devourer mechanic which was clearly not anticipated by the devs. Please ask plarium to make the following changes: increase the devour counter by one every time a hydrahead gains an extra turn, gains turn meter, or takes a turn under life shield. This will go a long way to alleviate the RNG in Hydra. Difficult content is one thing but a near random overlap of combined barriers which are insurmountable is no fun--a waste of time.
In the old days... there was no Hydra... there was no Doom Tower. The only bosses you had to worry about were the Faction Wars and Dungeon Bosses and Regular Demon Lord Clan Boss. Those were all easy. And because of Whisper's extra turn mechanic, you could not use her in many clan boss teams because she would outrun the buffs placed by the other champs. Whisper has always been well respected as a single target damage dealer to help Knight Revs in clan boss. But was largely useless in Arena, Demon Clan Boss, Spider, FireKnight, IceGolem, Dragon there are much better options. She's obviously an S-Tier damage dealer in Hydra now... but wasn't even that...more B+ or A tier only until the recent HEX buff to share damage. Now because of that Hex change she is obviously an S-Tier damage dealer in compositions that run hex...prior to that her only role was to help your Faction Wars team if they needed DPS on the boss...
I've had whisper since earrrrrrly into the game. Think she was my 3rd void shard. Never ranked her past 5 cuz she was lame. This might make me rethink this tho...
Ok, I pulled her out of vault. Now she have to wait her turn to get to lv 50 and then to lv 60. :D P.S. I think she will get her turn of leveling quite soon.
You mean Whisper with an amazing support crew smashes hydra... hahaha. But no joke... Yeah she did great. Glad I six starred her back in the day. Thanks to your video I have pulled her out of the vault. In a week or two I'll have and build Mithrala. Whisper looks great in a composition with Hex.
Mate, you are awesome and we love you, but there is other content out there other than Hydra…i’d day 90% of Raid players HATE Hydra, that’s why every time you mention Hydra it’s like ‘here we go again’…Just a piece of advise bcus you are such a nice guy!
Well it does work with with you guys,like it probably would any champ:)) but to build her its not easy.. I did try my best after this video... 6star best gear I have.. but she is no where close to this video:)
I never realized charged assault had that up time on buffs. I've always wanted a reason to build whisper though. Idk why but I love the idea of single target boss slayers
I used her in relentless and got 8 hits in a row against clan boss, god this must've been a year ago.
I got Whisper with the Amazon Prime promo and she has been one of my faves for ages. I love her so much.
I love my Whisper, I have her in relentless and it's so much fun when sometimes she just goes nuts getting tons of extra turns. Nice showcase :D
17:59 that is a sentence I never thought I would hear 💀
I ran little hydra before the change, and now all the vids are around old hydra. Are their ways to optimize these builds/runs with the new rules? As you pick team and have critical debuffs or buffs, then suggesting alternatives would be worth the time…. Love your simple approach to videos. I watch most of what you make!
Mad Capper showed how good she is against Doom Tower bosses
that 30m+ made me a believer. building her now.
_Whisper is my favorite character she's..._
_...Like a Cyberpunk Chick in Medieval Times!_
I got Whisper when she came out, for prime or whatever it was, when I was still early-mid game and she was killing it for me. I've seen her go multiple times in clan boss like damn how many turns does she get lol
The thing i love with whisper is her extra turns stack, as rotos used to
btw, Hex on aoe's works out to roughly a 2% bonus per target, because it happens for every target that gets hit. its about the same as single target in most places and only slightly worse in hydra.
Oh man i really have her on my vault!!😂 I was looking another of your super videos and found this! And i barely do the first chest.. i really wanted a boost. Continue the great job man! YNWA!!
You need an average of 2.67 hits per attack for Giantslayer to equal Warmaster. In Clan Boss, there is a damage cap on those abilities, so you need 2 hits per attack.
Your timing on this was very good. I actually built a Whisper to do just this, b/c I also noticed that she can have full uptime with her buffs. Thanks for sharing your results.
Still working on getting Mithrala. Any suggestions for the best replacement until I do get her?
I have all champs except for Nekmo. Would salad or anybody else be a good substitution?
She was my first epic when I started playing, I used her for everything for the first 6 months. I'm going to dust her masteries and gear her up now, thanks!
Great , knew I shouldn't regret 6s . She was my 3rd epic I maxed like 2 years ago now I have a reason to take her out of the vault again
I also just pulled her out. Put her in life steal and perception. Already used my hydra keys this week. But next week I'll give her a spin...
5:08 Whisper has a well-built hole?? 😏
I think its really cool that hex is making single target nukers more viable. So many champs that are good but not really used because they dont have AoEs.
Also I was kinda ready for numbkeks after that intro!
Wow!!! Super cool. What about faceless and cruetraxa tho? Would be awesome to do a comparison
You deserve WWWAAAYYY more than 15.5k subs!!!!
This video was awesome!!
Whisper did as much as Geomancer does on my UNM team!!!!
You cant Speed tune her .... How she can be better than Geo .
@@DEVILFISHrsl on Hydra. Not regular clan boss.
I was saying, she did as much damage on his Hydra run as Geo does on my ultra nightmare.
@@archam777 that makes no sense since geos dmg goes aoe in hydra. Sure some 3rd champion might do more on bommal but they are simply unrelated areas
@@lianghou7000 All I was doing was making a comment, that whisper, (in the run he just did in this video) did as much damage as my geomancer normally does in an ultra nightmare regular CB run.
I don't know how that's so impossible or hard to understand.
Not saying you can substitute one for the other, not saying that you should use one over the other one in a team. Not comparing them in any way whatsoever besides saying that whisper did as much damage on Hydra as my geomancer does on an ultra nightmare run on UNM clan boss.
I'm just making a damage comparison.
Geomancer does decent amount of damage on an UNM daily clan boss. Whisper does a decent amount of damage on this run on hydra....... They both do a lot on their respective "runs".
Saying it's impressive that she can do as much on Hydra as Geo can do on UNM clan boss.
THAT IS ALL
😭🤣
Awesome vid!!! I've been sitting on her for awhile...trying to build a good 3rd Hydra team and you definitely brought some toons to light!! Thnx Nub & keep up the cool vids!!
So how is the hex doing the extra damage? I'm a little fuzzy on that part. I didn't see anything in Whispers, or Mithrallas kits that mention ancilliary damage?
The hex debuff was changed so that it spreads some of the damage to targets under hex. It's in the debuff, not the kits.
@@TheCrusher112 Thanks for the reply. I can never find these details in game. I have Mithralla, I guess I've never noticed. I wonder it it procs warmaster? Probably not. I'm absolutely gonna build my Vault queen Whisper :)
If you want to guarantee Mischief spawning on your run, bring in Counter Attack.
This is nice! I have had a 60, fully Mastered Whisper sitting in the vault... I built her to get through KR Faction Wars because I didn't have Faceless. Might have to revisit her!
Just a question .... Is there any difference either you level up your fodders first before you feed them to your epic or legendary characters or is it ok to just feed them as soon as you already got them when you break some gems in the portal??? And why????
12 days ago i know.... but the only reason to level up food champs before you feed them to someone is to get the extra points in a champ training event. If there's no champ training event/tourny then leveling your food is just wasting resources
@@weggles91 Tnx Sir .... My eternal tnx that you answer my query ....😆
Still working on my Oboro after your video on her. Liking the hydra sleepers theme - especially since I'm trying to hoard shards and not pulling.
Why does lowerong her crit rate makes her kill spider faster?
Thanks for this tip, I have Whisper, but only use in Faction war. I struggle just to get first chest in Hydra normal :)
how can I replace nekmo?
Can we see this team on brutal and nightmare?
Does she work without mithrala, and the Void epics ? And a normal set , other then relentless.
Relentless is god tier but not required. You can run her in reflex so your always slamming the move that ignores defense.(though that can mean less extra turns from autos to an extent) Or just w/e gear you have laying around that will keep her alive and smacking. Like he says in the video you get quite a bit of flexibility since you only have to build her with the 70% crit.
Seems like the abilities were written wrong. Maybe will be updated and nerfed in the future?
Wrong in what way?
When I got her.... I really wanted to try to use her.... I got my first one in a long time like 2 weeks ago and been wanting to build her haha!
Imagine you use skull lord instead of oboro. Can keep decay fully provoked by himself, fills the mischief tank roll, i even have mine in guardian to soak some damage as well since his base stats are so crazy
He's fully aware of Skull Lord. Oboro is optimal hear because Whisper self buffs with 2 buffs... Oboro puts 5 buffs on herself. This allows her to always have more than the rest of the team including whisper...
@@benjaminroe311ify Of course he is aware - His videos are the reason I use Skull Lord. But my theory is that the extra turns will keep team buffs off of Whisper for the most part, so while she does self buff, she's getting rid of the increase speed etc faster. As well, if you put Rector over Aniri, you get another buff, a way to deal with the fear head, and you likely don't get that buff put on whisper all the time as she'll be the squishiest member of the team
Also can’t use with Mythrala as she puts strengthen.
One combo I would still like to see is a hex champion together with knight errant, he hits hard and can now spread some of that damage with hex. He just never gets any screentime because of his outdated nature
I have 4 whispers laying eggs in my vault. I think, I'll have to cook one up now.
Tnx for the vid.
Can somebody tell me which champ would do better in Hydra as damage dealer - Turvold or Whisper?
Try this build with cleoptrix, she has the hex debuff on the A3
Hi who can replace Nekmo? and who can replace Godseeker as i dont have that 2. The rest i got =)
Love this showcase!
I literally just busted her out to use with the new referral epic in reflex gear and was ridiculous, lol. Now I see this!
So what was the damage on normal???
I think you just made WHisper relevant again ( once booked)
woop woop. she's my no. 1. been using her ever since.
you could run with the deliana champ for aoe leech and just let deliana cycle through all 3 of her abilities
Best boss dps for KR FW: whisper or faceless?
Use Faceless. Worked out well for me against Valk waves
@@TheHarderrStyles What about just for boss?
Faceless, mostly because he ignores shields for valks and does good enough damage to solo the boss.
Yeah I was meant to say Faceless for stage 21. Is is good for the boss and he is great gor the waves top
had to check i didnt use her for a chicken thank god i saved her lol
Man I wish I would have had those 15 sacred's for Nekmo, I was 3 sacred's away.
Whisper was my 2nd void epic and she carried me a long way. I think I'll bring her back out of the vault. 😁
Nubs, imagine the day you find a 6* whisper awaken soul and put her on Crushing Rend. No need for weaken. or D# down.
I have a 6 star blessing on my Whisper....what blessing to use with this build?
Nub if you think she’s amazing! Please do a showcase on abbess!
I was working on her for a deacon eater team. :)
Is raid dying? The answer is no because you nub are single-handedly keeping it alive with your CPR: the infectious enthusiasm in these hydra videos.
You keep up the interest in the most hated and flawed content raid has ever released. Plarium owes you a huge debt of gratitude.
Hopefully in exchange they will listen to your critique of the most flawed portions of Hydra. Specifically the interaction between Hydra heads getting extra turns and the devourer mechanic which was clearly not anticipated by the devs.
Please ask plarium to make the following changes: increase the devour counter by one every time a hydrahead gains an extra turn, gains turn meter, or takes a turn under life shield.
This will go a long way to alleviate the RNG in Hydra. Difficult content is one thing but a near random overlap of combined barriers which are insurmountable is no fun--a waste of time.
Geez. I did a hard 1 key last night, and it took me almost 40 minutes!
faceless could work?
I like how Hydra does not ramp up. You could wipe it in one run.
First of my champs who gets relentless gear. She will be maximized when im done with my DARK fae 120 Team. Thx für your Video!!!!!
So Mistral got isekaid in the Raid universe?
As a new player i dont understand how this champs kit has been overlooked a bit
her main use has only ever been clan boss, and her extra turn mechanics made her only useful in specific comps where extra turns were viable
@@sdfE36 I guess so but for bosses she seems pretty nasty, even dt or faction wars if you can keep her save a bit
In the old days... there was no Hydra... there was no Doom Tower. The only bosses you had to worry about were the Faction Wars and Dungeon Bosses and Regular Demon Lord Clan Boss. Those were all easy. And because of Whisper's extra turn mechanic, you could not use her in many clan boss teams because she would outrun the buffs placed by the other champs. Whisper has always been well respected as a single target damage dealer to help Knight Revs in clan boss. But was largely useless in Arena, Demon Clan Boss, Spider, FireKnight, IceGolem, Dragon there are much better options. She's obviously an S-Tier damage dealer in Hydra now... but wasn't even that...more B+ or A tier only until the recent HEX buff to share damage. Now because of that Hex change she is obviously an S-Tier damage dealer in compositions that run hex...prior to that her only role was to help your Faction Wars team if they needed DPS on the boss...
It’s weird to hear someone doing
Preventive health care … oh wait your a lucky Canadian!
xD he's not Canadian xD
Well time to dust her off and get her out of the vault! WOW!
Imagine being the person that used her as a chicken a couple days ago 😂🤦🏾♂️
🤦🏻 lol
I've had whisper since earrrrrrly into the game. Think she was my 3rd void shard. Never ranked her past 5 cuz she was lame. This might make me rethink this tho...
great video as always )))
Whisler i have on clan boss in UNM unkill best for my 24m dmg she just
Ok, I pulled her out of vault. Now she have to wait her turn to get to lv 50 and then to lv 60. :D
P.S.
I think she will get her turn of leveling quite soon.
I just built her to pop Siphi on DT Hard so I can free Shamael for Hydra only
Clearly, Whisper was the star of the show.
But Nekmo ... cmon ... I am so impressed by this lizard for hydra
I'm building my whisper right this second
Thats my girl!
my best on normal was 70 mil and whisper did 30 mil, and this was without hex
I. LOVE. IT.
You mean Whisper with an amazing support crew smashes hydra... hahaha. But no joke... Yeah she did great. Glad I six starred her back in the day. Thanks to your video I have pulled her out of the vault. In a week or two I'll have and build Mithrala. Whisper looks great in a composition with Hex.
Mate, you are awesome and we love you, but there is other content out there other than Hydra…i’d day 90% of Raid players HATE Hydra, that’s why every time you mention Hydra it’s like ‘here we go again’…Just a piece of advise bcus you are such a nice guy!
He's known for being the Hydra King. If you want other content go somewhere else. Lol
He's my go to guy for Hydra. Others ignore it.
I guessed 35m. Nice
Well it does work with with you guys,like it probably would any champ:)) but to build her its not easy.. I did try my best after this video... 6star best gear I have.. but she is no where close to this video:)
33 minutes...that's why people hate hydra. even when you do well, it takes too long.
If only i had more than 1 of those champions lol
Nubkeks is best.
Whisper you say? 🤔
so you'll be Numb raids from now on ? :)))
31 million
Sorry, meant minutes lol
Four, four damage is my guess
thanks
Impressive
606k wtfreak!?!?!?!?!?
huh I fed her so many times
I'm guessing 20million damage
I have her maxed and fully booked
don't even use her
you want her?
57 mil
maybe a way to high gues
maybe not 50m now
my origanal gues was 75 m but i switched it to 57 because i thaught that was to high but dahm
NUMBraids
Typing up a script, hear you say Nekmo Thaar, and i started dancin!
85M
70million
God i hate hydra .... makes me feel like im just wasting my time on this game ... I watch these and level / gear champs to just Waste resources .....
I have always been a secret lover of Whisper! It seems now people.CC are finally recognizing her pow pow!