Al Franken Challenges Ann Coulter on Slanting the Truth
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Ann Coulter and Al Franken discuss the validity of Ann's sources at "A Conversation Between Al Franken & Ann Coulter" Forum in Hartford on May 14, 2004. The moderator was Steve Roberts.
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I like the guy who tells Al not to talk over Ann repeatedly talking over Al when he gets his turn to speak.
EW! She's gross!!!
Thanks Ann. Before watching this video, I didn't know that taking somebody's words out of context and deliberately misinterpreting them counts as "paraphrasing."
I cannot stand Ann Coulter....thanks Al Franken for calling her out.
No shit.
@@your_royal_highness oh you poor stupid liberal
She just proved with here body language that she was caught in a lie. It wasn't paraphrasing, it was changing the quote to fit your narrative.
absolutely
Regardless of her body language, her use of the quote was accurate. Freidman wrote that "no religious fundamentalist of any stripe would be caught dead flying nude". Therefore, who, according to him, are the terrorists? Religious fundamentalists of any stripe. Which is exactly what Coulter said in her book. Her body language was probably her realising that the audience would easily be misled by Franken.
Bob Wilson, she didn't say that Friedman blamed the terrorist acts on religious fundamentalists of any stripe? I can read, including your insults. They don't lend you any credibility.
You don’t understand paraphrasing and I quote put on your lipstick frannie.
@@damianfragapane3595he used weasel language. He implied that terrorism was evenly spread amongst those with extreme ideologies, whatever that’s supposed to mean. It’s not. The overwhelming share is coming from one group. And she’s clearly right about where to look. This makes the Kerry comparison valid as well. At a certain point it becomes a description of the suspect, to paraphrase Coulter. Btw, whatever happed to Franken? Lol
The best part of this video, for me, is after Franken reads the quote from the New York Times piece. That moment when they cut to her face, it's amazing. It's literally one of the best things I've ever seen. Why? Because I know that look. It's the same look that I have whenever I've been caught lying to my mother.
She gets way more attention than she deserves.
Its because she is extreme like Rush Limbaugh. Americans love polar extremes and hateful conflict. Our media is a reflection of the sickness we love to watch and listen to. I gave up TV 2 years ago. I just watch bits on RUclips every now and then.
I ignore Ann but I like Al.
Someonez Mom She nasty all the way around.
Stunami Liberal media is a myth there no such thing anymore. He smiles at there dumb buts.
Bocephus Blue So true!
"When someone is making an ass out of themselves (you) the best policy is to not comment and let them do it." insult is the last resort when someone is proven wrong
After watching this clip I decided that I wanted to know more about Ann. So, I watched several of her interviews, debates and read many of her articles. What I found is that Ann absolutely has a goal. Which, is to sell books. She has mastered the art of shock and awe! She keeps all on their heels, she wants all the control and mainly to have the opportunity to make her shocking comments which help her stay in the media because, remember "there no bad press". That is her formula to success; shock + more time in the public eye = more books sold. furthermore, I did noticed a couple things about Ann's persona and that is she A). avoids answering questions to escape from embarrassment (since she has no clue what they are asking her), B). She is actually a weak person " Complains more than others, Do not take opinion of others, tend to be overly dramatic" and C). Ann Lie's.... "Still part of the equation"
So in closing. I was very confused at first as I watched the video, to much commotion and then after researching and understanding Ann. I can say with certainty; she was afraid of AL! That's why she was so uncontrollable and uncomfortable like a bitch i.e. "female dog" cornered with no way out. I say please do not buy her books, remember that's what she wants and do not waste your precious time in Ann, turn the page and let's all move on!!!
We need more people like you. People doing their own research rather than just saying the headlines we all would be better off.
I looked this up because it was the one debate that Coulter refused to allow in her documentary. Now I know why
Here's the thing: It takes about 5-10 seconds to tell a lie. No matter how big and blantant the lie is, it still can need several minutes to debunk it.
So a blatant and chronic lier has an advantage in any debate. She can tell more lies than Frankin has time to debunk. She can also make up stuff on the spot.
Once I catch a public figure in chronic LIES--not honest mistakes--I just discount anything they say after that.
Funny, when he puts Ann on the spot for lying and brings the receipts she goes to the moderator about how much time he talked, the exact same tactic Bill O'Reilly used when it happened to him. They both then resort to some lame excuse and deny any lie on their part.
They learn these cheap techniques.
Oh my god! i never thought i would see a comment by you! I love your videos keep up the great work!
haha "I'm not prepared on Ann Coulter..." she says.
She should try reading "her" books.
Or maybe she should have written notes on her hand. It worked so well for Sarah Palin.
First of all, Ann, when you use quotes it means you are repeating the exact phrase the person you are quoting said. Secondly "racial profiling"... hmmm How many words can I use on this comment..... you pasty faced, homely, ignorant, bigot?
The one main joy I get from watching your racist rants is knowing that you are young enough that in twenty years YOU'LL be the one being racially profiled.
ive always heard that people who refer to themselves in the third person are nuts
James Travers I been saying same thing for yrs. I am a white middle class man but that doesn't stop me from seeing big picture and I don't lie to myself. You are right, in 20 yrs, the white middle class will be the huge minority in US and I can only pray that people like this Ann will be treated exactly like she wants minorities treated now. right wing as a whole, not all of them but as a whole hate anyone not like them and want minorities to be treated inferior to them, hopefully, they get treated the way they should be according to them. In 20 yrs, republican party will be dead since 45% of them are in their 60s and 70s, bye bye
James Travers Hahaha, great!
Maybe she should have written on her hand: "Ann Coulter = Me"
***** nope...he warned the audience of her ways so as the debate continued whatever she said wasn't taken at face value.
the scary thing is that she really isn't stupid; she's insanely manipulative.
Wait a minute. Al Franken was told "Don't talk over" when Coulter was talking. She does it to him and the moderator says nothing. Double standard. Have a doughnut Ann. Maybe you'll be happier and less nasty.
I love how Ann's main argument is that Franken is "boring" because he goes through her statements and fact-checks them. First off, he's not boring, and also, the fact that her main defense is that "fact checking her is boring"...despite the fact that he's right.
I'm a conservative, socially, fiscally. I'm not stupid! While generally a fan of Ann's and a huge fan of Al's SNL days I value honesty and integrity.
Ann writes books for her audience and for money. I always tune in when she speaks, but I appreciate it when she or anyone else who espouse questionable views/opinions are challenged.
She called him boring and then wasted a few minutes reexplaining the article he had just summarized.
@BelfastAtheist - Again, thanks for the tip. I posted the Hitchen's video that was on your wall on my FB page and several of my libertarian friends responded, sending links, etc. I had heard him on Fox News before, but didn't pay it much thought. I will definitely check out more of Hitchen's work. Again, thank you.
"This is where they start to go through the footnotes of my book"
Well, Ann you gotta be ready when they go through the "footnotes of your book" to determine whether your being consistent, so be ready for it and take it like a woman.
Ann Coulter's opinions are terrible, and she's just a terrible person in general, but she is well-educated and is very good at rationalizing her insane opinions and making them sound sane, when in reality they're not.
Keyser Soze Ann Coulters positions are based on Facts, Logic & common sense. Her high energy personality is in response to snowflakes with Emotion based positions blocking progress & outting Everyone in danger
Hahah yea right. Did you watch the video? Franken absolutely destroyed her credibility. Everything that comes out of this women's mouth is just pure bullshit. Stop listening to alternative facts.
Franken didn't destroy her credibility; he didn't understand what the author of the article said. The author of the article said that "no religious fundamentalist of any stripe would be caught dead flying nude". So who is he referring to as the terrorists? Religious fundamentalists. That's obvious. And that's exactly what Coulter says. Franken seems to focus on the sarcastic tone of the article while missing the fact that the author clearly points to religious fundamentalists as the terrorists. Either that or he's deliberately being deceptive and underhanded.
Why have i not previously heard of this Al Franken guy? He sounds awesome.
It's not paraphrasing it's newspeak Anne and you do it so well.
is she insane??? or did she had a horrible childhood experience????
+Jade Blackwell Both
+Jade Blackwell Doubt they are either mutually exclusive or an exhaustive accounting of her pathology(s).
Bless you, Anne Coulter. You're the best promotion for the Democrat party that there ever was! Keep up the good work!
Haha!
the look on her face as she realized he has her dead to rights.. priceless.
and then she's pathetic enough to call his story about her bullshit book boring...I thought it was a brilliant illustration of how completely full of shit and garbage Coulter is
All she does is lie and exaggerate and take things out of context. Franken could have done that all day. If she's not prepared on Ann Coulter then who is she prepared on? It night help to know what you put in your own book
I love how she resorts to the old "equal time" defense tactic.
lol.. she is crying.. amazing
It was truly satisfying that the video ended in the middle of her sentence. I think we've heard enough.
Quote defined: to repeat (something written or said by another person) exactly. : to write or say the exact words of (someone) : to write or say a line or short section from (a piece of writing or a speech)
Paraphrase defined: express the meaning of (the writer or speaker or something written or spoken) using different words, especially to achieve greater clarity.
poor skeletor, she needs to read her own lies
Ann Coulter is one of the best orators living today. She debates in a calm professional manner and has never lost. You may disagree with her but she is very good at what she does.
She seemed to lose this one. And she's not a great orator. She's just lacking a conscience.
in the sense an idiot is confident in his belief in something thats idiotic to a wise person? then yes i agree with you
ann coulter is an idiot
She is an idiot who loves attention, this clip has nothing to do with her normal invective, vitriolic nonsense.
People who claim that she is an idiot lose much credibility in that they show that they are willing to speak from their emotions and biased viewpoints rather than on sound logic and judgement. One may not like Ann for many reasons. She has done rather well by being quite abrasive and offensive to many people. But by no standard, rational measure is she an idiot.
I LOVE YOUR COMMENT! This is right on the money!
It's always great that intelligence and facts always trumps liars like Ann every time!!! Thanks Al
As expected, she denies the quote, then goes on to prove she lied, then goes on to prove her so obvious Xenophobia.
The full quote: "No religious fundamentalist of any stripe would be caught dead flying nude, or in the presence of a nude woman, and that allone would keep hijackers out of the skies." So he did blame terrorism on religious fundamentalists of any stripe.
Exactly. I can't believe Franken was able to pull the wool over so many people's eyes. He turned their focus to the facetious tone of the article and away from the issue at hand: who does the author blame for the terrorism?
Any body know where it might be possible to find the whole thing?
coulter is a good right winger.. she has no idea what the fuck is going on
Al Franken 5 , Ann Coulter 0
People can do research and ALSO have "real world" experience. In fact sometimes they CHOOSE research because of it. As a person who changed jobs, had a 30 day lapse in insurance, and through "luck" broke my ankle on that last day - I got to experience months of unpaid rehab, unemployment, medical bankruptcy, and nearly dying, to come back to a pre-existing condition and a job I could barely do. Eventually the poor health care led to a permanent disability, and that was after insurance.
Thanks for proving my point.
I'm sorry, but I can't stand Coulter. And to be dumb enough to go against the political genius, Al Franken. Well I rest my case.
I liked the whole getting paint chips to compare color or the name thing bit. Shows how truly classy < more like classless > she is. Real shame is that she has not gotten better but she has gotten way way worse. Have no idea how she still has a job.
Thank-you for proving there is still intelligent life south of the border. Well said.
I normally shy away from using the "C" word on anyone, but Coultergeist makes it so, so, soooo very tempting.
Bizarre individual. How can she be taken seriously?
eww rascism is not sexy
A liberal ought to know. Check out the history of your party of choice, and its trajectory, Anton.
whiff1962, Conservatives always try and bring this up because they have nothing else. Of course you all fail to mention that all of the losers either changed their stripes and reformed or fled to the Republican party. You want to know the 'trajectory' of the old Democratic party? Look at the Republican party. That's what the 'old Democratic' party became.
Are you saying that today's Democratic Socialists are what Republicans once stood for? What we have in the GOP, at present, is the party of Neo-Statists, not of Conservatives. To be sure, both the establishment Republican Party and the Democratic Socialists fear any challenge to the status quo that now rules over Washington, that being career influence peddlers and Crony Capitalists.
And as far as last resorts, i.e, "having nothing else", there is nothing of last resort with solid Conservative principals and values. I bet, to the last, you would agree with much of what Conservatives stand for, and less with the liberty robbing two party monopoly. What the Republican party needs is bold bright color differences, but that is another conversation for another time.
Jake Jones Ummm not so bud, racism always has and always will eminate from the left and if ya don't believe me go show up at an OWS get together where you'll hear all kinds of anti semetic remarks. Just like your forefathers the National Socialists or more commonly known as the Nazis....
Ziggy DaHood Nationalsocialists, or NAZIS, are the FAR_RIGHT of the spectrum!
everything they stood for, were NATIONALISTIC causes, their "socialism" has not_the_least_bit in common with real SOCIALISM!
Nationalsocialists (ONE word, for it was a newly created word, BECAUSE they had nothing to do with Socialists!) have been (still are) FASCISTS (left?! nope! those are the right), militaristic and all about obedience.
their socialism meant "jobs for Germans only", "healthcare for Germans only", basically everything "for all Germans only" and it was pure xenophobia, fear of foreigners and Jews, that the Nazis had sold to the German public!
anyways, trust me when I tell you: the fascistic Nazi-Party had been of the far-right and it had more in common with today's so-called-conservatives in the US, than any real conservative would like!
then again, today's GOP has nothing to do with REAL conservatives...
oh, and btw, I'm not a "liberal" in any way, shape or form!
She actually was caught out in an interview here in Toronto, where she thought we had sent troops to Vietnam then lied about it on Fox... Who is her coach? And why is she so scared by a bag?!
Cool video!
Ann eviscerated Franken, even after the little dwarf tried to ambush her with his little quote.
Al catches Republicans in lies for sport.
Garry Lafferty No, he ambushed her unfairly and she slapped him down like the little girl he is.
The debate wasn't supposed to be about her book. It's obvious Franken got his interns to dig into Ann's book for something that was a "lie" and the best he could do was the comment she made about Thomas Friedman.
Here's some of Franken's better lies:
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1878EFC2008 The forum wasn't about "Ann Coulter's Lies." And Ann's response shows that her remarks were not lies, that the lies were actually the personal attacks Franken was wallowing in.
1878EFC2008 But it was a lie, and proved Franken to be the liar. He did the same thing in Congress against Senator Thune. He's a little dwarf that lies.
Uh, Ann's still correct. The part about flying naked being tongue-in-cheek has no bearing on the fact that the author referred to them as "religious fundamentalists of any stripe" instead of, "Muslim extremists." Why not say, "no Muslim extremists would fly naked?" It would still be tongue-in-cheek. The subtext of him changing it to "religious extremists of any stripe" is exactly what Ann said - that it's not a Muslim thing, but an every religion thing.
Did Ann Coulter and Kelly Conway wrestle for the Drumpf gig? Ann was smart….she disappeared.❤
Sometimes I clear my head of anything I believe and try to see it from Ann's view. But it's not possible.
OWNED.
Just because one is controversial, doesn't necessarily mean he/she is informed. Coulter is such an example...
@artbailly Whats the UBC?
Do you get to drink beer and smoke pot at lunch there too?
I saw Al live after this and he brought her up. He described this event and I remember him saying that Coulter was not terribly bright. I can see why as she no idea how someone with Franken’s intelligence and quick wit would destroy her. She looks so pissed being called out.
Nothing, NOTHING should ever be above criticism, especially one's own country and government.
Game, set and match. Franken
How could she not be prepared on Anne Coulter?!?
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@BelfastAtheist - I do have say that I thought the Christopher Hitchen's video on Loving America (2005) was a very interesting persective, which I got from your profile.
@yzmaximus Your grasp of the facts & their translation into well crafted arguments is admirable. Eloquence was obviously a cherished quality around the ol' yzmaximus household. I earnestly look forward to more of your profoundly compelling dissertations, but please try to keep your mellifluous meanderings brief. You tend to run on in long winded rambling fickle tangents that include oddly opaque orations, curiously convoluted conjectures, & stunningly static statements. God Bless you, you boob.
Her immediate response to this takedown is, "I'm not prepared to debate on Ann Coulter." Jesus is there a more insane response than I'm not prepared to be me?
@doonymacc (resumed) In 2000, Total government receipts were $2,025.2 billion and Bush's tax cuts were not significantly implemented until the end of 2003 and early 2004.
In between, revenues fell - all the way to $1,782.3 billion in 2003 (the number of jobs fell also - just like my example said). Curiously - once the tax cuts were in place, things began to turn around - revenues began to climb - along with the number of
jobs (again, just like my example said). (continued)
And if "The quality of health care is vital for anyone with any sense" how can you justify policy that doesn't give citizens health care, and that would allow denying people care for pre-existing conditions, like cancer or arthritis? Or canceling policies on people who have paid in if they need health care? Or letting a corrupt FDA and drug companies set the rules for what is covered? How in the world is that "quality" in any sense of the word? How is that not "harm"? How is it not "failed"?
Wow so that's how you defuse Ann Coulter - who actually was silenced. You confront polemic dishonesty with satire and humor. Kudos to Al Franken.
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Coulter eyeroll caught on camera when Franken begins fact checking her, priceless. Make yourself look douchier, it helps.
So basically if I understand this right, Friedman was advocating for more government administered security at airports by saying the only way we couldn't have security is if everyone flew naked. Well if you've been following along since then that has resulted in molestation of every kind of passenger, most notably children and 100 year old grandmas. But Friedman didnt really argue for more govt. security he conjured up a ridiculous scenario for having security without government involvement.
@BelfastAtheist - Yes, I understand the horrors of North Korea and Orwell was a huge influence on me in high school. At the end of my Jr. year, I traveled to Europe (1981) and visited E. Germany. I went through "Check Point Charlie" and visted E. Berlin. In E. Germany, my friend Vahid was wearing a militant looking hat which he purchased in a puck rock shop in London. He was escorted off the bus by two guards carrying AK-47s. The books combined with the visit had a huge impression on me.
Where is Anne now ?
This is just one link and it is here on youtube . try google to find out the various accepted news services. CBS and CNN ran the stories and there are several link on youtube showing the news episodes.
You make a good point.
forgive my ignorance, but how often do Amish people take plane flights?
@BelfastAtheist - One of the most striking things I remember at the wall were the guns turned in on their own people, not pointed towards the west. East Berlin was very depressing, building were in bad shape, you couldn't buy anything, etc. Stark contrast to West Berlin.
In other words, "my entire post was telling you I didn't attack you,
even though I did, and have no source for the bullshit figures I
spouted." - Got it.
Her face at 4:35 is just like "fuck. fuck. fuck. fuck. fuck. god fucking dammit i can't believe he actually just did that."
@BelfastAtheist - I'm a conservative-libertarian. As long as you don't harm or take away another person's rights your free to do as you wish. I believe in freedom of religion/ no-religion, expression, etc. I do believe in limited gov to protect individual freedom and rights. In pure anarchy, gangs will form and become the ruling class. In the U.S., my fear is fascism and we're quickly become a totalitarian state. Both Reps and Dems are responsible for us losing our rights as individuals.
is this "between 4 plants"?
"You think a website is evidence of something? lol."
"Lol?" What are you- a 14 year old girl? Type like an adult. And yes-
legitimate websites can show evidence of things- he just hasn't given one.
"Anyone can post anything on the internet... you should have stayed in school- then I wouldn't have to tell you that."
What they show you in school (clarification: above high school) is how to discern the valid sources of information. Good thing you'll never have to worry about higher education.
Wow...I almost felt bad for her...she was totally shaken! Then the more she talked the less I felt bad for her.
Ann really got down then at the end. You go girl. Ann Coulter you;re the BEST !
I Cr 13:8a, Love never fails !
You're the Headline on why our country is going into the abyss.
3) (cont.) instead of having developed preconceived notions and biases and then insulting people and doing google searches cherry-picked later to try and back them up with random non-sequitur / irrelevant / out-dated pieces, a good and open learner would read up on all of the different policies, understand them, and then come to a conclusion. It would also enable you to actually have an intellectual discussion rather than resorting to name-calling at the outset.
@TripperLV - That's suppose to be OP/ED (opinion/editorial).
If you’re loud, swing your arms around a lot and giggle, you got to be telling the truth
Al Franken threw a chair at Michael Medved at the Republican Presidential convention.
He did not want to debate someone who is smarter than him. He felt ambushed.
@osuasheuatl The conversation had strayed from the video by the time you got here.
Our Lovely Intelligent , well Read experienced Ann Coulter in he same room with idiot Al Franken???
Why does she have a platform? How does this happen?
Well said.
I enjoy chasing short legged prey in my line of work
"I'm not prepared on Ann Coulter...."
WTF?!
'I didn't spend time checking all my lies and getting them in line."
Key words "if she can establish a substantive correlations between the quoted phrase and other subjects" -- which she couldn't. In fact, that was why Franken read the article (which then was called his "long boring stories", but was the context... to show that in context there was absolutely no correlation.
Thing is, when you quote someone you can't lie about the context. Especially when you reference it in your book to support your point.
@doonymacc By 2007, revenues were at AN ALL TIME RECORD IN THE HISTORY of the nation - we collected $2,568.0 billion. IN FACT, the six HIGHEST years of revenue collections in the entire history of our nation, came in the years AFTER the Bush tax cut. It just so happens that those ALSO were the years with the highest number of jobs -
Gee, EXACTLY as I said.
(continued)
Unbelievable is right. (from Toronto)
Owned!
She got served. Directly. Game over
Which 'news service???'
@doonymacc
That is what she objected to, and Franken MISCHARACTERIZED what SHE said and used an obscure quote from at LEAST a year prior so that ANN would not be able to recall exactly, on the spot, what he was referring to and thus be unable to respond.
(continued)
Harvard's Kennedy School of Government program that Franken graduated from has been historically so lax and inept that senior professors at Harvard have lobbied the university to drop "Harvard" out of its name. Coulter has a BA from Cornell and Juris Doctor from Michigan. If you tell someone from Boston you're a Harvard graduate they'll be impressed. When "School of Government" is mentioned there will be a polite "Oh" followed by a walk-away. It's an empty less than nothing proclamation.