If that's true, then it's even worse because this video completely leaves out said "destruction." Rule #1 on RUclips: If it's in the title, TALK ABOUT IT
@@ikigai47 Unfortunately I'm pretty sure rule #1 is to give videos a compelling, clickbaity title whether it is accurate or not. It's not a poorly put together video otherwise. Shame to invite backlash in the comments with a title that promises something undelivered, especially since there may acually well be a bit of a sad story for the guy's brush with fame, that part of the narrative just isn't well developed.
@@benjaminolson7206 - I disagree. Once I see clickbait I always click "do not recommend videos from this channel" Compelling titles I get, but promising and not delivering is just a no talent cheap trick
Jimmy and Pete best should do a podcast called Fuck em all!! In all seriousness they’d have quite a story to tell and there’s billions of people waiting to hear it.
@@Noycey64 I had done a screen shot as I found it an interesting moment. Imagine what a mind blowing experience. It can be found just by typing in his name on google
It says 'going home from an unusual job'. That's all. Lots of people sit alone in airports. It would 'say a lot more' if he instead moped around in bars or coffee houses telling everybody how bummed out he was.
I read that Jimmy had been playing in a Beatle Cover Band, so he knew Ringo's drum fills already. He was the perfect substitute for those eight gigs. I recall reading that interview from the late 80's it was in a Drumming Magazine. In it, Jimmy mentioned that Brian Epstein gave him a sizable signing-bonus JUST for taking the job. He certainly could NOT complain about the money he made from those 13 days of work.
I'd say it's sad because that kind of high would feel amazing, playing in front of thousands of people, getting a pretty insane amount of money, everyone wanting you and wanting to be you, then to suddenly just be back to normal life, earning normal money, and all that attention going away pretty much instantly, it'd be hard to deal with.
Jimmie filled in for Ringo at ten concerts in June 1964 - two in Denmark on the 4th, two in the Netherlands on the 6th, two in Hong Kong on the 9th, two in Adelaide, Australia on the 12th and another two in Adelaide, Australia on the 13th. He also recorded a TV special with the Beatles in the Netherlands on the 5th.
He was a session drummer that got a good temporary gig. Nothing sad about that. Think about those great musicians that were members of the Wrecking Crew, that made the recording on Pet Sounds so great.
Good job well done, Jimmie. Would you have preferred to be The Beatles’ drummer? ...probably (who wouldn’t) Were you kind of shocked by the attention and lifestyle?...probably (who wouldn’t) I think Jimmie was filling his role perfectly. He lived up to Ringo’s drumming styles, but he didn’t compete with him. Very nice...
I met a man in his 70s who attended the Adelaide (Australia) concert where Jimmie Nicol played. Getting that ticket was a quite an investment for a teenage male on an apprentice salary and he prized it! He told me the concert was "great" and that the screaming died down after the first two numbers and he could enjoy the music. The Adelaide Town Hall, to this day, displays an enlargement of the four of them, including Jimmie, waving to the crowd from the balcony.
Yes, even at that time The Beatles had become a four headed monster and it was impossible to replace one head with another, so there was no chance for him to get any residual recognition out of that gig.
"Greatest Rock and Roll Band" is quite a stretch. But, yes, he got to play and I'm sure he played his heart out. Next time I step into an elevator, I'll listen for him. He probably could have replaced Ringo.
Clickbait poisons so many otherwise fine videos. It's a good story of a guy who got to live a euphoric dream everyone wished for, then got the privilege of living a private life again. And he showed such class by not exploiting it. The Beatles were good for and to him, so he returned the favor. It is insulting to call this "destruction," or "sad." What's sad is the crassness of using a headline like that.
He filled in for Ringo for a short time. I'm not sure how he could have "cashed in" if he wanted to. He got a great story out of it. I'd sneak that into every conversation I had after that. "Sir would you like a paper bag or plastic". "Paper thank you...I was a Bealte for eight shows."
Oh perhaps by shopping himself around to other groups or producers, with 'played with the Beatles' on his resume. Or by taking interviews for pay, or writing a book. I'm not sure how you could ignore the 'job experience' aspect of this.
He got depressed and went in isolation throughout all the 70s. All he had left was the golden watch gifted by Brian Epstein. He was poor AF. His sister rescued him.
Supposedly, the three lads used to rib Ringo about those 13 days and say to him.. you watch your mouth young man or Jimmy Nicol is getting another phone call... 😆
Those of you mentioning Pete Best have to remember the Beatles let him go because they felt he was a subpar drummer. If they would have used him it would have been hypocritical.
Jimmy Nicol had been playing in a Beatle Cover band. He knew Ringo's drum fills before he joined the Beatles. Even if the Beatles had maintained their friendship with Pete Best he could not have filled in over that period. Pete would not have had time to learn their new songs. BTW, Pete was replaced for multiple reasons, some that had nothing to do with his drumming.
@@jasona9 I believe it was for basically his personality. When one see over the years all the goofy things they did in films, "Hard Day's Night" example: Ringo's walking scene with 'This Boy" theme playing in the background, goofing around with that 13 year old kid kicking tires ect. how the heck would Pete have done that?? NOT Then in "Help" all the attention on Ringo with that "RING" they were after, all the Marx Bros. skits in trying to get that RING, ect. imagine that being Pete? NOT Pete was much too serous in his persona, and the boys didn't feel good about that. From what I read Pete at times didn't want to participate in some of their escapes, ...so really you had at times Paul, John and George talking with themselves about Pete, in some ways it was unfair to Pete, and they were all ganging up on him, but Pete seemed very moody, withdrawn...maybe had been been able to 'lighten' up more and act silly, like the other 3...but believe me when I tell you...I had problems at time with band mates....and I feel I had a LOT "Pete" in me, so I'll just leave it at that.
You can get addicted to something you never knew you were looking for, I'm surprised that in two weeks he even felt the Fame, like he said, he was touring the cities so not even spending a lot of time with the Band. Just the Jet Set and Catered lifestyle and girls who probably don't quite yet understand what being a groupie is and are way too young, which is why they were at brothels. They went from writing for young adults in Bars in Germany to playing those songs for 13 year old girls. That airport shot is not sad as some commenters think, he just finished a whirlwind, respectfully left before the uncomfortable good byes that would have cluttered Ringo's return. And it looks like he had George Martin and Brian Epstein waiting at the airport when he got back.
Jimmy years later saying playing for The Beatles was the worst decision he ever made. Before, he was getting regular work as a drummer but after he was dismissed his life spiralled out of control and ended up bankrupt a year later. He did give insight though on the behind the scenes of John, Paul & George. George was into sex a lot and was far more talkative than the “quiet Beatle” tag he was lumbered with. John, although sarcastic genuinely liked the fans, but Paul wasn’t so keen on them.
I am wondering if Pete Best was suggested to return and replace Ringo temporarily…”As we live…a life of ease,…everyone of us…is all we need!”…”Sky of blue…and sea of green…in our Yellow…Submarine!!!”…Karl Schumaker 💛💛💛💛💛
But on the other hand, it’s probably just as well because Pete Best had so much resentment towards the other 3 Beatles that he probably wouldn’t rejoin his former band mates…”Ah,look at all the lonely people!!!”…Karl Schumaker 💔💔💔💔💔
Andy White also would have been a possibility as well.After all, he also replaced Ringo on drums for the song “Love Me Do.”…”Love,Love Me Do!…You know I love you!…I’ll always be true!…So,please…Love Me Do…woah…Love Me Do!!!”…Karl Schumaker 😍😍😍😍😍
Jimmy Nicol had been playing in a Beatle Cover band. He knew Ringo's drum fills before he joined the Beatles. Even if the Beatles had maintained their friendship with Pete Best he could not have filled in over that period. Pete would not have had time to learn their new songs.
If Jimmy could have somehow put playing with the Beatles in a positive perspective after leaving, the experience could have enhanced his future but by the sounds of it he perceived it negatively, it must have been a very tough call though and that’s the sad part. He took the wrong road.
He was promised fame with his own group which didn't happen. He was playing with Georgie Fame before, which gave him enough money to support his wife and kid. After, he stopped earning. Show biz is not as good as a steady income.
In his Drumming Magazine interview (back in the 90’s), Jimmy was asked why he never 👎 wrote a 📕 book. Especially since so many people have to cash in on their association with the Beatles. I recall his answer being mixed….he did say when his money got “thin” he did think about it, but decided not to. Jimmy said, “I didn’t want to step on anybody’s toes 🦶, they were damn good to me”. 🤷♂️
To see him sitting alone at the airport in Australia looking sad after all that short adulation, that's it but Ringo is a fantastic drummer & no-one can touch him.🎶
@@R.Oates7902😅smh..that's a draft comment. Figures you'd millennials would say that. So the Beatles should have kept him in just because he's "good looking"? So you really expect or think, the Beatles would have gotten where they were/ are because of good looks? You can't be that dumb..? Or are you? 😅it's called talent. That's what gets you far in a musical career, not looks you internet slag..lol.. bloody hell..
Sad story is just bs. Jimmy was chosen by George Martin to fill in because he was a great drummer. Believe me, George wasn't going to pick anyone who wasn't a great drummer. I'm sure he could have had a career as a drummer for many different bands in the 60s if he wanted to. But what he chose to do was his own business.
Lots of very good musicians have some moment when they get a temporary call to the big leagues, then go back to life as usual - with something to brag about. I'm not knocking Jimmie Nicol by any means - but the video keeps hinting at some dark consequences of his experience, but seems to think it's self-explanatory ... ?
I'll echo what others have said: How could a gig as a Beatle be bad in any way? As a matter of fact, this may have - in some strange way - been the best way to have been a "Beatle": Do it for a short while, get some money, taste just a sip of fame, and then become obscure and unrecognized for the rest of your days, holding the secret knowledge of what you were. Unbothered by fans or threats. Not seduced into drug use by fame and exhaustion. I guess that - were it me - the only thing I would have changed was the length of the stand-in job: A year or maybe a little less would have been perfect.
Jimmy Nicol had been playing in a Beatle Cover band. He knew Ringo's drum fills before he joined the Beatles. Even if the Beatles had maintained their friendship with Pete Best he could not have filled in over that period. Pete would not have had time to learn their new songs.
@@jasona9 Thanks for the excellent answer Jason. Someone else here had also inquired similarly re: Pete Best, and I just copied/pasted your excellent comment (giving you full credit of course).
He was a victim of poor advice or a lack of, it was a mistake not keeping his head down and just doing the gigs, getting involved in the press interviews did him no favours as he hadn't the charisma or wit to trade off the others, being enigmatic would be something he could take home with him and possibly propell his career, putting himself forward he revealed his lack of 'Starr quality'
I've always had the same thought about Jimmie Nicol. He should have accepted that he wasn't a Beatle, just a fill-in drummer, and avoided the limelight, and the Beatles themselves should have enforced that. Just three of them for parades and interviews. Still, it's easy to talk with the benefit of hindsight. They were all very young and experiencing an entirely new phenomenon.
@@stephenhosking7384 "avoiding the limelight" is the worst idea possible when you're playing with the top band in the world. Lots of people could say 'I played with the Beatles but there's no proof'. He's got proof. Too bad he couldn't make the most of it. This was an era where session musicians were never credited on albums; it was the best idea possible to at least try being visible with the Beatles.
@@jamescarter3196 I don't agree with the conclusion, ie. that Nicol was right to accept the visibility, but you make good points in your argument about this being a chance for a session musician to advance his career. Thanks for the response!
Sad??? Mr. Nicol, as is Mr. Sutcliffe, as is Mr. Best, as is Mr. Preston (outside of his own right), and on and on, are in the history books. Much more than you, or I, not contributing much of anything, to any kind of history! Sure wish I could be equally ‘sad’, as Mr. Nicol.
Pete Best has his own group the Pete Best Four. They had little success but two of his band mates, Wayne Bickerton and Tony Waddington wrote Sugar Baby Love for the Rubettes. So you see, talent does find a way if you have it.
This is just the the official narrative . Jimmy Nichols more than likely was one of the four studio drummers who played on the Beatles records from 62 to 66 and beyond. I’d say he may have made a tidy sum from Beatles Inc.
There’s always some idiot on a Beatles comments sections spouting some stupid theory… “Paul is dead” this, “Ringo didn’t actually play” that… Just enjoy the music.
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The reason the story is so sad is because instead of catapulting him to bigger and better things his 13 days with the Beatles led to his destruction.
"Destruction"? Would you care to elaborate - because there's nothing about his 'destruction' in the video ... ?
@@hilariousname6826 read the book The Beatle who vanished.
If that's true, then it's even worse because this video completely leaves out said "destruction." Rule #1 on RUclips: If it's in the title, TALK ABOUT IT
@@ikigai47 Unfortunately I'm pretty sure rule #1 is to give videos a compelling, clickbaity title whether it is accurate or not.
It's not a poorly put together video otherwise. Shame to invite backlash in the comments with a title that promises something undelivered, especially since there may acually well be a bit of a sad story for the guy's brush with fame, that part of the narrative just isn't well developed.
@@benjaminolson7206 - I disagree. Once I see clickbait I always click "do not recommend videos from this channel" Compelling titles I get, but promising and not delivering is just a no talent cheap trick
Jimmy and Pete best should do a podcast called Fuck em all!! In all seriousness they’d have quite a story to tell and there’s billions of people waiting to hear it.
The picture of him sitting alone in the airport as he was returning home says one hell of a lot
That picture has always made me sad. I first saw it in the Glenn A Bakers Beatles book in the 90s.
@@Noycey64 I had done a screen shot as I found it an interesting moment. Imagine what a mind blowing experience. It can be found just by typing in his name on google
No, it just says he was a temp and his job had ended.
@@docsavage8640 Yeah , I suppose your right. It was just another day like any other. just a job
It says 'going home from an unusual job'. That's all. Lots of people sit alone in airports. It would 'say a lot more' if he instead moped around in bars or coffee houses telling everybody how bummed out he was.
Jimmy Is A Fab Drummer & A Fun Type! The Beatles Liked Him. Comes Across Well In The Tour Interviews. ✌🤍🌎
After you've been a Beatle for two week, there is nowhere to go but down.
I read that Jimmy had been playing in a Beatle Cover Band, so he knew Ringo's drum fills already. He was the perfect substitute for those eight gigs. I recall reading that interview from the late 80's it was in a Drumming Magazine. In it, Jimmy mentioned that Brian Epstein gave him a sizable signing-bonus JUST for taking the job. He certainly could NOT complain about the money he made from those 13 days of work.
I wonder why The Beatles didn't get Pete Best to fill in?
@@im1who84ubecause he wasn't good and really didn't"fit" it was more because he suxed I think. Jimmy was a better drummer than best was
@@Professorkenneth No question, Jimmie was a better drummer than Best.
How the heck is this *SAD* ? My gawd, he played *with the Beatles* for 8 live shows! This is the stuff of dreams.
He only played with the Threetles. (it's true but I'm kidding)
I'd say it's sad because that kind of high would feel amazing, playing in front of thousands of people, getting a pretty insane amount of money, everyone wanting you and wanting to be you, then to suddenly just be back to normal life, earning normal money, and all that attention going away pretty much instantly, it'd be hard to deal with.
Now that's a good man.
A story that opens with promise but is disappointingly incomplete.
Jimmie filled in for Ringo at ten concerts in June 1964 - two in Denmark on the 4th, two in the Netherlands on the 6th, two in Hong Kong on the 9th, two in Adelaide, Australia on the 12th and another two in Adelaide, Australia on the 13th. He also recorded a TV special with the Beatles in the Netherlands on the 5th.
He was a session drummer that got a good temporary gig. Nothing sad about that. Think about those great musicians that were members of the Wrecking Crew, that made the recording on Pet Sounds so great.
It's unbelievable that someone who was literally "A Beatle" for 2 weeks never got even 1 person trying to use him to cash in on their success.
He turned “15 minutes of fame” into 2 weeks. Not shabby.
@johnhaug153 'Fabby' ... Love that! ❤
Good job well done, Jimmie.
Would you have preferred to be The Beatles’ drummer? ...probably (who wouldn’t)
Were you kind of shocked by the attention and lifestyle?...probably (who wouldn’t)
I think Jimmie was filling his role perfectly. He lived up to Ringo’s drumming styles, but he didn’t compete with him. Very nice...
When did you interview him?
He eventually moved to Sweden and joined the instrumental group The Spotnicks there are videos on RUclips.
I met a man in his 70s who attended the Adelaide (Australia) concert where Jimmie Nicol played.
Getting that ticket was a quite an investment for a teenage male on an apprentice salary and he prized it!
He told me the concert was "great" and that the screaming died down after the first two numbers and he could enjoy the music.
The Adelaide Town Hall, to this day, displays an enlargement of the four of them, including Jimmie, waving to the crowd from the balcony.
👍🏿
Probably the only band in the world, where a fill in just doesn’t cut it.
Even the Stones have had several new members..
Jimmy did a good job during the short time he was with them.
Why is it a sad story? It was a temporary gig for the worlds greatest band. A story to tell the rest of your life.
Yes, even at that time The Beatles had become a four headed monster and it was impossible to replace one head with another, so there was no chance for him to get any residual recognition out of that gig.
@schris3 you would think it would have opened up the door for many great possibilities to have "played with the Beatles" on your resume.
@@magneto7930
Exactly. He certainly wouldn't have set him back any.
"Greatest Rock and Roll Band" is quite a stretch. But, yes, he got to play and I'm sure he played his heart out. Next time I step into an elevator, I'll listen for him. He probably could have replaced Ringo.
"A story to tell the rest of your life."
Right, mate. Sure you were.
Very good drummer and I think a good man.
Clickbait poisons so many otherwise fine videos. It's a good story of a guy who got to live a euphoric dream everyone wished for, then got the privilege of living a private life again. And he showed such class by not exploiting it. The Beatles were good for and to him, so he returned the favor. It is insulting to call this "destruction," or "sad." What's sad is the crassness of using a headline like that.
He filled in for Ringo for a short time. I'm not sure how he could have "cashed in" if he wanted to. He got a great story out of it. I'd sneak that into every conversation I had after that. "Sir would you like a paper bag or plastic". "Paper thank you...I was a Bealte for eight shows."
Oh perhaps by shopping himself around to other groups or producers, with 'played with the Beatles' on his resume. Or by taking interviews for pay, or writing a book. I'm not sure how you could ignore the 'job experience' aspect of this.
@@jamescarter3196
I really doubt that he could have or would have kept his short stint with The Beatles a secret. It just didn't parlay into riches.
This fantasy come to life that wasnt all you would hope could make a fantastic movie.
He got depressed and went in isolation throughout all the 70s.
All he had left was the golden watch gifted by Brian Epstein. He was poor AF. His sister rescued him.
Supposedly, the three lads used to rib Ringo about those 13 days and say to him.. you watch your mouth young man or Jimmy Nicol is getting another phone call... 😆
Those of you mentioning Pete Best have to remember the Beatles let him go because they felt he was a subpar drummer. If they would have used him it would have been hypocritical.
Jimmy Nicol had been playing in a Beatle Cover band. He knew Ringo's drum fills before he joined the Beatles. Even if the Beatles had maintained their friendship with Pete Best he could not have filled in over that period. Pete would not have had time to learn their new songs. BTW, Pete was replaced for multiple reasons, some that had nothing to do with his drumming.
@@jasona9 I believe it was for basically his personality. When one see over the years all the goofy things they did in films, "Hard Day's Night" example: Ringo's walking scene with 'This Boy" theme playing in the background, goofing around with that 13 year old kid kicking tires ect. how the heck would Pete have done that?? NOT Then in "Help" all the attention on Ringo with that "RING" they were after, all the Marx Bros. skits in trying to get that RING, ect. imagine that being Pete? NOT Pete was much too serous in his persona, and the boys didn't feel good about that. From what I read Pete at times didn't want to participate in some of their escapes, ...so really you had at times Paul, John and George talking with themselves about Pete, in some ways it was unfair to Pete, and they were all ganging up on him, but Pete seemed very moody, withdrawn...maybe had been been able to 'lighten' up more and act silly, like the other 3...but believe me when I tell you...I had problems at time with band mates....and I feel I had a LOT "Pete" in me, so I'll just leave it at that.
You can get addicted to something you never knew you were looking for, I'm surprised that in two weeks he even felt the Fame, like he said, he was touring the cities so not even spending a lot of time with the Band. Just the Jet Set and Catered lifestyle and girls who probably don't quite yet understand what being a groupie is and are way too young, which is why they were at brothels.
They went from writing for young adults in Bars in Germany to playing those songs for 13 year old girls.
That airport shot is not sad as some commenters think, he just finished a whirlwind, respectfully left before the uncomfortable good byes that would have cluttered Ringo's return. And it looks like he had George Martin and Brian Epstein waiting at the airport when he got back.
Jimmy years later saying playing for The Beatles was the worst decision he ever made. Before, he was getting regular work as a drummer but after he was dismissed his life spiralled out of control and ended up bankrupt a year later.
He did give insight though on the behind the scenes of John, Paul & George. George was into sex a lot and was far more talkative than the “quiet Beatle” tag he was lumbered with. John, although sarcastic genuinely liked the fans, but Paul wasn’t so keen on them.
He looks like the slow kid in my school.
I am wondering if Pete Best was suggested to return and replace Ringo temporarily…”As we live…a life of ease,…everyone of us…is all we need!”…”Sky of blue…and sea of green…in our Yellow…Submarine!!!”…Karl Schumaker 💛💛💛💛💛
But on the other hand, it’s probably just as well because Pete Best had so much resentment towards the other 3 Beatles that he probably wouldn’t rejoin his former band mates…”Ah,look at all the lonely people!!!”…Karl Schumaker 💔💔💔💔💔
Pete released an album after his time with the fabs .. " Best of The Beatles "
Andy White also would have been a possibility as well.After all, he also replaced Ringo on drums for the song “Love Me Do.”…”Love,Love Me Do!…You know I love you!…I’ll always be true!…So,please…Love Me Do…woah…Love Me Do!!!”…Karl Schumaker 😍😍😍😍😍
Jimmy Nicol had been playing in a Beatle Cover band. He knew Ringo's drum fills before he joined the Beatles. Even if the Beatles had maintained their friendship with Pete Best he could not have filled in over that period. Pete would not have had time to learn their new songs.
Hmm. So, how many people can say they played drums with the Beatles on tour? What a cool story.
Not like he was going to become a Beatle because Ringo got sick
Ringo was concerned about his status in the band as he had only been a member for a short time .
Interesting History on wiki: Jimmie Nicol
Jimmy had a successful career going for him before the Beatles gig.
That was his first mistake. He took his lucky break and broke it in two.
All of life is about outlook
Jeez how many people can say they drummed for the Beatles when they were famous?😊
pete Best can,t ....
If Jimmy could have somehow put playing with the Beatles in a positive perspective after leaving, the experience could have enhanced his future but by the sounds of it he perceived it negatively, it must have been a very tough call though and that’s the sad part. He took the wrong road.
Bassists & drummers often replaced in bands.
He took his lucky break and broke it in two.
He was promised fame with his own group which didn't happen.
He was playing with Georgie Fame before, which gave him enough money to support his wife and kid.
After, he stopped earning.
Show biz is not as good as a steady income.
Jimmy should do an Anthology.
In his Drumming Magazine interview (back in the 90’s), Jimmy was asked why he never 👎 wrote a 📕 book. Especially since so many people have to cash in on their association with the Beatles. I recall his answer being mixed….he did say when his money got “thin” he did think about it, but decided not to. Jimmy said, “I didn’t want to step on anybody’s toes 🦶, they were damn good to me”. 🤷♂️
He knew up front it was a temporary gig. I mean they didn't lie to him, did they? Then it would've been a sad story.
To see him sitting alone at the airport in Australia looking sad after all that short adulation, that's it but Ringo is a fantastic drummer & no-one can touch him.🎶
They should have kept Jimmie Nickol because he's alot more attractive!
@@R.Oates7902😅smh..that's a draft comment. Figures you'd millennials would say that. So the Beatles should have kept him in just because he's "good looking"? So you really expect or think, the Beatles would have gotten where they were/ are because of good looks? You can't be that dumb..? Or are you? 😅it's called talent. That's what gets you far in a musical career, not looks you internet slag..lol.. bloody hell..
I see you couldn't be bothered telling us if he is still alive.
He is 84 years old now and still alive.
The poor bloke had a flash of the taste of fame but it was just a stand in stint! Don’t let it go to your head and back to the 9-5
Got some free trips out of it
Why didn't they just bring back Pete? 🤔
Nowhere man
Sad story is just bs. Jimmy was chosen by George Martin to fill in because he was a great drummer. Believe me, George wasn't going to pick anyone who wasn't a great drummer. I'm sure he could have had a career as a drummer for many different bands in the 60s if he wanted to. But what he chose to do was his own business.
Not sure what's sad about playing with the Beatles for 2 weeks. Probably got a lot of money and gigs he would never have been hired for otherwise.
Lots of very good musicians have some moment when they get a temporary call to the big leagues, then go back to life as usual - with something to brag about. I'm not knocking Jimmie Nicol by any means - but the video keeps hinting at some dark consequences of his experience, but seems to think it's self-explanatory ... ?
This is click bait. Just be honest
Trivia: Name 5 Beatles drummers
Pete Best, Andy White, Ringo Starr, Jimmie Nicol, Paul McCartney and Bernard Purdie. That’s six.
Going back to the Quarrymen, they had between 15-19 different drummers.....something like that.
He had two weeks playing with the greatest band in the world with all the adoration that comes with it, how chuffing sad 😂😂😂
I'll echo what others have said: How could a gig as a Beatle be bad in any way? As a matter of fact, this may have - in some strange way - been the best way to have been a "Beatle": Do it for a short while, get some money, taste just a sip of fame, and then become obscure and unrecognized for the rest of your days, holding the secret knowledge of what you were. Unbothered by fans or threats. Not seduced into drug use by fame and exhaustion. I guess that - were it me - the only thing I would have changed was the length of the stand-in job: A year or maybe a little less would have been perfect.
He could have wrote a book or did he ?
He should call up Pete Best
Jimmy Nicol had been playing in a Beatle Cover band. He knew Ringo's drum fills before he joined the Beatles. Even if the Beatles had maintained their friendship with Pete Best he could not have filled in over that period. Pete would not have had time to learn their new songs.
@@jasona9 Oh yeah. I believe you. I meant Jimmy and Pete should go to a pub and get smashed together. Ale is for what ails you.
@@Joe-bx4wn 🍺 🍻 Cheers 🍻 mate!
@@jasona9 Thanks for the excellent answer Jason. Someone else here had also inquired similarly re: Pete Best, and I just copied/pasted your excellent comment (giving you full credit of course).
This doesn't really touch on the sad part at all.
Not sad at all. He lived everyones dream. Whether it affected him negatively or not after that was on him.
Jimmy was the original Bonehead before Oasis.
Ringo has charisma and Jimmy didn’t; that’s all.
He was a victim of poor advice or a lack of, it was a mistake not keeping his head down and just doing the gigs, getting involved in the press interviews did him no favours as he hadn't the charisma or wit to trade off the others, being enigmatic would be something he could take home with him and possibly propell his career, putting himself forward he revealed his lack of 'Starr quality'
I've always had the same thought about Jimmie Nicol. He should have accepted that he wasn't a Beatle, just a fill-in drummer, and avoided the limelight, and the Beatles themselves should have enforced that. Just three of them for parades and interviews.
Still, it's easy to talk with the benefit of hindsight. They were all very young and experiencing an entirely new phenomenon.
@@stephenhosking7384 "avoiding the limelight" is the worst idea possible when you're playing with the top band in the world. Lots of people could say 'I played with the Beatles but there's no proof'. He's got proof. Too bad he couldn't make the most of it. This was an era where session musicians were never credited on albums; it was the best idea possible to at least try being visible with the Beatles.
Bollocks. It was meant that way. He even wore Ringo's suits.
@@jamescarter3196 I don't agree with the conclusion, ie. that Nicol was right to accept the visibility, but you make good points in your argument about this being a chance for a session musician to advance his career. Thanks for the response!
Jimmie had the worst haircut ever.
Sad??? Mr. Nicol, as is Mr. Sutcliffe, as is Mr. Best, as is Mr. Preston (outside of his own right), and on and on, are in the history books. Much more than you, or I, not contributing much of anything, to any kind of history! Sure wish I could be equally ‘sad’, as Mr. Nicol.
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I wonder if they used condoms back then in brothels?
Yes
Apparently there’s lots and lots of Beatle kids around
They should have got pete best to fill in
That would have been awkward
He couldn’t play, he was a poor drummer.
Pete Best has his own group the Pete Best Four. They had little success but two of his band mates, Wayne Bickerton and Tony Waddington wrote Sugar Baby Love for the Rubettes. So you see, talent does find a way if you have it.
@@KebabMusicLtd They released an album " Best of The Beatles "
that wouldn't have been the best idea...
This is just the the official narrative . Jimmy Nichols more than likely was one of the four studio drummers who played on the Beatles records from 62 to 66 and beyond. I’d say he may have made a tidy sum from Beatles Inc.
Always an IDIOT in every comment section.
There’s always some idiot on a Beatles comments sections spouting some stupid theory… “Paul is dead” this, “Ringo didn’t actually play” that… Just enjoy the music.
@@StationSquare. totally agree
Bernard Purdie....is that you???
Jimmie Nicol should have been replaced with Pete Best.
All you Aussies that were served a knockoff of Ringo should SUE!
Brian Epstein’s surname rhymes with ‘mine‘ not ‘mean’.
What do you mean?
This guy actually thought he was a Beatle. 😂😂😂 It takes more than playing eight gigs over two weeks because a guy was sick to be a band member.
I'm wondering if Jimmy Nichols gave Epstein the idea to simply replace Paul with Billy after his car accident. Why stop THAT show?
Sad History. How many musicians can say "I was a Beatle!" He knew it was only going to be temporary.