MIDJOURNEY vs LEONARDO AI // Head to Head Prompt T-Shirt Design Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- MidJourney vs Leonardo AI
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If you go to /settings and turn on Remix, when you do variations, it gives you the option to change the prompt. It is faster than starting over and you won't get random images.
Great tip... thanks for sharing... I'll have to try it.
Glad you are trying midjourney but now you have to go deeper lol. Just like Leonardo has different models midjourney does as well. for Tshirts I still like v4's style and aesthetics. You could try a prompt comparison between the different versions. That's what I do with permutations if you are on the $10 plan I cant remember if the permutations feature is included but what you can do to try all the different versions is at the end of each prompt you would type one of these. --v 4, --v 5, --v 5.1, --v 5.1 style raw, --niji, --niji --style cute, --niji --style expressive, --niji --style scenic (niji is the anime model) - I would also include "isolate on white background" at the end of your prompt as I have found it easier to remove the background when its all white. Midjourney's way of negative prompting is to type --no (followed by what ever you want the ai to try to exclude) for Tshirt designs I use "--no tshirt product shot, text, quotation, title" the negative prompting was mainly for v4 as each version acts different and you may not need it for 5 and up. Another thing I would recommend is as a member you can DM the midjourney bot directly or if you have your own discord you can add it to your server. That way you don't get lost in the mix of the newbie or general channels and its easier to go back and review your renders. There is a lot with midjourney, they have Chaos (--c 1-100) , stylize (--s 1-1000), multi weighted prompts (worked best in v4 from what I have seen) I made an image jam on the midjourney discord for Merch T-shirts etc (discord.com/channels/662267976984297473/1043687959477620786) and then i have my own discord so us Merchers had a place to bounce ideas and ask questions to each other. (discord.gg/AwdcvT9G3m)
Thanks for the tip... I'll have to try that
I LOVE midjourney! I am so glad you are checking it out. I wasn't thrilled with it being on discord at first, however I have the option of creating a prompt on my mobile phone and grabbing it later so I really love that. I find discord to be handy.
Thanks... I may have to try the mobile phone thing like you did
These comparison videos are fantastic for us newer designers. Gives a better idea of which tools to start with.
Glad it was helpful! I plan on doing more
the video is so good but I wish of you put the prompts in the description so if it possible put the prompts in the description this video then thanks😊
Ok will do
I've noticed that most T-shirt designers like version 4 of mid journey.
I'll have to try it... thanks
It'll be great if you make a video on how you build up your prompts.
In Leonardo I did the remix method. I show it here....ruclips.net/video/W9Nj4Ff2u6g/видео.html
Fantastic Juna! I chose - all your choices ( before you said them). Great Artwork, Great Comparison! Cheers, Brad H
Thank you! Cheers!
Thank you for your video, and I think I should seriously study about MidJourney.
Me too.... there is lots to learn
I'm using both, but I really love Midjourney. Looks like midjourney keeps updating their art styles every month. I just don't like to use Discord. Hey Juna I really love your videos, I'm watching one video every day on my way to my job. 👏👏👏
Thanks for watching.... I need to make more videos for you so you don't run out..... I hope to learn more about MidJourney. Hopefully they get rid of the discord or make it better.
You can make your own channel on discord to separate your stuff from everybody elses
I love Leonardo as more user friendly IMO... Mid journey is a little bit techy for me which put me off a bit so need to try and learn more about it. Both of them have great results!
Fair enough! I was thinking the same thing
You can set up a private server using the midjourney bot so that you won’t have to search for your images and to have it in one spot. Here’s a video I just found showing a simple process to do that: ruclips.net/video/WVmCgpPL09g/видео.html
Thank you... I still got lots to learn about MidJourney
@@DetourShirts you’re welcome! There’s also this channel : youtube.com/@TokenizedAI that show and give helpful tips for using Midjourney.
Hey Juno! So I just wanted to help solve your issue of generating and having to scroll through everybody's stuff to find yours. You can actually create your own private channel, and invite Midjourney into it. Then you can privately create without the hassle of sifting through other ppls designs.
All in all, love the videos, they've helped me up my design quality.
Thank you... I recently figured it out and makes a huge difference
I'm having way too much fun with Midjourney! Looking forward to your future videos about this platform. Your image with the larger astronaut looks a lot like TenHundred's artwork, too cool!
More to come! I really hope it's not too close to TenHundred's stuff
@@DetourShirts oh it's not, no worries!
I think Midjourney puts more and intense colors than Leonardo. Depends on what you like / or the customers...
True
use Alchemy with Leonardo! and stop using the Leonardo diffusion model!
True... Alchemy is so much better.
you can click on the midjourney bot and DM which lets you into your own room so don't have to deal with everyone else's images. you can also just type slash and click on imagine.
Yes... I just learned that... thank you
hey bro I appreciate all the informations that you put in this videos , Do you think that there is a chance to coper someone with using the same design , our it change once we click in remix from each laptop , which is mean , my remix in the design it's not like the remix of other when he do it .
Every remix should be slightly different... so they could look very similar but not exact
yes, do more, please
I'm planning on it
first: Leonardo
second: midjourney
third: Leonardo
fourth: Leonardo
Nice... thanks for playing
Me not getting sales after 2 months 😢
Oh no.... I would try something different then... different style, different topic
If you DM the bot you go into a chatroom, just you and the bot haven’t got to see everyone else’s and they don’t see yours
Yes... I'll have to try that
I've been doing the same! The difference is unique.
Yes they are... I like both
A hundred other people also generated that monkey with different prompts.
Yeah.... that is the thing about AI
More of these comparisons, and add Creative Fabrica and Canva A.I. please.
That would be a fun one
what I think is really important here is how you did the prompts, they seem very difficult to me
I'll do a prompt video soon
What software do you use to upscale your artwork from the AI.
Vectorizer.AI if I want vectors.... PixelCut if I want a raster (pixel) file
removing a background. Apple's Preview App dose a great job instantly, depends on the image of course! Under the tools menu see remove background. I use it on my AI creations.
Great tip!
Leonardo Ai on top for sure
Leonardo is pretty cool
Love your channel ❤️. I dont know if youve worked it out in Midjourney but when you do Variations you can also add the Chaos tag to give more or less variation difference
--c 40 for example. I think its a 0-100 scale. The bigger the number the further away from the original.
Thanks for the tip!
Hola Juna !! Hoy me suscribi a Midjourney y esta buenisimo !! Pero estoy perdida con algunas cosas ...me suscribi al plan basico de 200 mintos por mes...bueno mire en la parte donde estan mis gastos y dice Fast time remaining 213.51/ 200 minutes ( 106.76 %,)
Y debajo lifetime usage 16 images ( 0.19 hours ) ...bueno no entiendo mucho, significa que me pase ? O que no puedo usar mas por este mes ? Espero tu ayuda como siempre 🙏 por lo que entiendo me pase ...
Parece que tienes minutos extra de alguna manera. Sigue usándolo hasta que se acaben todos tus minutos.
@@DetourShirts awwww muchas gracias Juna jaja al principio uno está perdido 🙂
How many sales you got from ai designs ? And which platform you are uploading designs too !! I am beginner and will try my hand as you have mentioned. Any promotion method used by you? If yes please share by answering here and also teach me and others how promote also.
Not many yet but it's really early still..... I've uploaded some to Amazon and some to RedBubble.
@@DetourShirts still. 30 design in 30 days is not less.
Please help anyone to earn minimum $300 in monthly 🙏
I'm trying.... it would depend a lot on the person, their skill and how well they learn the concepts
Dear Juna, have you made videos about writing prompts for POD designs? I am noobie and want to learn basics
I have the remix method in Leonardo in a video but I still haven't made one with writing prompts from scratch... that would be a good one
@@DetourShirts thanks. The issue I have that English isn't my first language second, I don't know how to generate idea in context of t-shirt etc
The palm tree with waves.. all those are so beautiful illustrations. You can add your server so you won't be distracted by other people's prompts. God bless.
I really need to do that... thanks
bottom right with the blue shades is the best
Nice... thanks for sharing
Use a higher stylize in Midjourney. You can also add --chaos 10 to get some cool results too. I've never had any luck with leonardo. I always get horrible generations.
same, I find MJ so much easier. even simple basic prompts usually give great results.
I'm going to try it....thanks
And i also have a doubt about "Do i get any copyright claims if i use pinterest images as a design for my tshirts" if it is not "how do i increase the image quality which i downloaded from Pinterest"
From Pinterest?.... I wouldn't download images from Pinterest.... that's not the same thing as generating artwork with AI..... everything on Pinterest is copyrighted
Would love a follow up on which sold better. I like the Leonardo ones for the first two for sure, the florals, Midjourney and the last one I love both.
Great choices....yes, I'll need to track them and see how they do
Leonardo still rules in my eyes. Discord required for midjourney is the reason. If you already use discord then great. I don't and do not want to. I loved seeing what midjourney produced so I was thrilled when I found leonardo. Heidi
Thanks for your comment. I love Leonardo too
Thank you, very helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for this again, Juna. I use Leonardo but I'm finding it difficult to scale the images especially for posters. How do you go about upscaling for posters and t-shirt, pls? I heard you mention 'I just remove the background'. Is that sufficient for the resolution needed?
So I vectorize them first, with Vectorizer.ai..... then I scale them to the right size in Affinity Designer and then I remove the background
MJ is the best ... also it being on discord is so super convenient. I can continue on my phone where I left off, or quickly get an idea generated while Im not at my computer. I also use it interchangeably on my PC or my laptop, I'm not tied to a website.
Good to know... thanks for sharing
I am still trying to figure out Midjourney and I just signed up for Leonardo. Which platform do you feel AI designs sell best on?
I don't know yet. It's too early.. I'm putting them on Amazon to test them out
Question: How much do you upscale an AI image and what size range (since it varies) is the final design in MB for clothing?
Depends... but if you upscale it to fit 4500x5400 (the final design size) then you should be okay
Hey Juna! You have a great teaching style! I heard that some of the artworks generated by AI apps have copyright issues. Is there a way to check that these graphics are copyright-free before we use them on POD products? I remember that you provided the USPTO site for texts. Do you have an idea if there is a site that checks for graphics or images? Thanks.
Not that I know of.... I think you kind of have to do a google image search or something similar.
Juna how long does it take to make your first sale? It has been over 40 days and I did not get a single sale and I have 100 designs
If you are on Amazon I would give it 4 weeks and then try something else because you have limited space.... If you are on any other POD I would give it 3 months
I'd love to see a video using the same prompts but with mid journey version 4. Type in /settings and select version 4 or put the suffix --V4 at the end of the prompt.
That's a great idea... I do need to understand MidJourney better so that should help
do you have a discord server for midjourney?
Yes
@@DetourShirts can you put the link so I can join?
How to create prompt for t-shirts design
Yes... good questions I will cover them in another video... but one good way to start is with remixes or copying others prompts and then change some things about them
@@DetourShirts still waiting Juna !!
where do you get your prompts from Juna? like everyone that is my struggle
Some I remix from other designs I like... other times I just try out stuff.
the backgrounds on the mockups are really a good idea.
Oh yeah... it's a must IMO
Great Video ...been using Leonardo for a while wondering the same thing about Midjourney myself....👍🇬🇧
Yup.... I was so curious.... that's why I had to try this
@@DetourShirts based on your video , think I'll stick with Leonardo for now...great video though cheers 👍🇬🇧
Cool comparison video. Informative and exciting tools.
Glad you liked it!
Which software do you use to remove the background without affecting the quality of the image
Photopea is pretty good
Which subscription do you have on Leonardo AI ?
I'm on the FREE one
I prefer Leonardo
Leonardo is pretty great
Juna, create your own room to design so you don't get lost in the newbie room.
I'll have to learn how to do that and maybe make a video about it so other can do the same
Great video, Juna! I'm eager to see how well each of your designs sell. A couple thoughts: I think a caption/text would help each design sell. (You're the expert, and I'm sure you've thought about that!) Also, Midjourney is changing regularly, and the option to create more variations is improving, so I think with a couple more remixes of each variation, you could get closer to what you ideally want from each image. I use Midjourney a ton, so I'm biased here! Thanks, as always!
Thanks for the tips!
Never used any AI tool until now but seems like the midjourney is overrated .. as compared to Leonardo.. because I really like your designs that came with a very realistic vector and graphical touch in Leonardo but in midjourney it came like artificial paintings ..
I'm going to try Leonardo ai now...
Glad I could help you see the difference
Leonardo is free?
There is a free version
Both of them look interessting, but i prefer the ones on Midjourney, they look more fun and colorful =)
Yup.... can't argue there
Hey Juno, please please do a follow up on this to let us know which of your designs sold well from you MidJourney vs Leonardo AI comparisons - great video
Will do!
Leonardo fo me
Nice... Leonardo is pretty great
Most people, 98%, selling merch by Amazon, aren’t making any money… most people buy text designs, rarely just a graphic. T-shirt design in reality is dead.. hundreds of millions of sellers to few buyers. The demand to supply ratio is 1 to 20,000. I.e. heavily over saturated…
I can only see what I am doing and not what everyone else is doing or how much effort they are putting into it..... so for me I don't think that is true... there is still so much potential. I feel like I've just started.
@@DetourShirts I was in facebook groups with 100k members starting back in 2017 when it first took off. People who were in 50k tier and 100k tier were making between 4k a month and 11k per month. Those same people are now making between $600 to $1800 today. On Amazon, keywords don't cut it anymore. Amazon has dozens of index servers that rotate out millions of t-shirts. Amazon ads will eat all you profit up and more. Sellers today are using multi-platform SaaS to push their designs and still only making a few hundred a month. I am graphic designer with over 2000 products live and I make on $125 to $250 a month on it.
Wait till everyone's designs are the same no one care anymore AI i starting to spit out the same stuff. No one will know how to design any more.
The prompts should make it different but yeah AI isn't the only way to make designs... It's just fun and new
@@DetourShirts I use AI to generate something for a design so i only use one AI item with a design. It is fun.
DM the MidJourney bot and you can create your designs away from everyone else’s.
I'll have to do that for next time... thanks for the suggestion
How do you upscale the image? Can you make a video about it please?
Yes... I will do that