+TopRobbo1970 Well to be fair it is The All Blacks and they are allowed every single exception to every single rule with refs. Always hard to beat them with 16 men, just ask the French in World Cup 2011 as so many penalties were ignored that could have won the game for Le Bleu. NZ world's worst winners and world's worst losers...how's that to stir up some nasty kiwi hate comments? *watch this space lol*
he was a brave and very good technical tackler that put his all in, sometimes knackering his shoulder. Quality player who could have done so much more with an expansive style of play or simply gone to play league.
Watching him at Twickenham he would be at 10 and tackle then get up run around the ruck back to his position tackle again and this just went on and one. He was a machine and actually had 4-5 years out of full international rugby due to injury. Had loads of stinger injuries on shoulder then repetitive strain on groin and knee due to his obsessive kicking practice and fitness regime. They guy was an animal.
That may have been his problem post 2003. I can remember wishing he would he ease off on the tackles later, when he suffered real injury problems that caused him to miss so many games.
Pleased to see that people are still watching this game. I'm an NZer and have nothing but respect for this amazing England performance. The same goes for every true rugby lover that I know. The 2003 England team was mighty. The right team won the RWC.
Not when you listening to whingeing Aussies! The only difference was the drop goal apparently! As a Pom living in Australia, it was wonderful.@@SoCalDreaming87
Three things stand to me about this incredible match and commentary: the absurdly biased commentators; Dallaglio’s immense work and Jonny Wilkinson - for his kicking but also for his tireless tackling. This England team was so tough in defence!
Biased commentary, shit House unneccesary stamping on defenseless players on ground, Umagas total disregard for a fellow players wellbeing with his spear tackle on O Driscoll in 2005 yet another example of how nz used to get away with stuff. The ref was crap and we still beat em with 13. And by the way the try was offside as well.😂
Jonny Wilkinson's kicking rightly gets attention, but his tackling was out of this world. If a tacke was missed or half missed Wilkinson would be there to end it.
Why wife had (and still has) absolutely no idea about rugby, but she always watched when Jonny Wilkinson played, with the comment. "Oh, he's so handsome". And got annoyed when he was tackled.
Has the game changed so much that in 2003 a player deliberately stamping on someone`s head was`t deemed to be worthy of a mention by the commentators ???
When Martin Johnson was asked after the game what was going through his head when they were down to six forwards and the AB's had a scrum close to the England line, he responded "my spine" lol
@@vincentnorris4178 The NZ (or whoever) are very sharp-eyed when it comes to their own appearance -- but laugh at others who voice concerns about any other teams presentation.
2:18 "England got home (just about made it) 31 to 28, but only four of this All Black team were there". "Yes, this is the REAL business, no doubt about that". The All Blacks are probably the most successful team in Rugby and are admired and respected as such (me included). Yet commentators like these never cease suggesting that any time they've lost it's been due to some fluke, trickery, unavailability of top players or unfair refereeing. Every team in the world could claim extenuating circumstances at some time or another but don't. At least not to the same extent. I live in Wales and Andy Haden's dive in 1978 robbing Wales of a historic win is hardly ever mentioned. We lost and that's that. It's ironic that antipodeans love to use the term 'whinging poms' when it's they themselves who whinge on and on and on.
What about South Africa? How many times have they thrashed the All Blacks? How many world cups have South Africa won and how many have New Zealand won?
What’s that got to do with the price of fish? We all know ABs were poisoned in 95; and in apartheid era could never send coloured players, whilst having to cop hometown SA refs!!
@@paradisefound100 Actually, the ledger is clearly in favour of the All Blacks 59 wins to 36. And several times the All Blacks have kept SA scoreless. As for world cups its 3 a piece. Although the All Blacks are the only team to ever win back to back. So yeah careful on the rhetoric there.
I think NZ would have had about 12 players left on the pitch with today's level of refereeing and camera angles. Two would have gone in one go for the stampings....
@@gel6224Why do Saffas feel the need to try and make a thread that is nothing to do with them all about the Springboks? There's a freshly coined word for that - Saffastrating.
This is without doubt my favourite match of rugby. I could watch it again and again. I don’t think England will ever have a team this well rounded that plays with this much heart and passion again.
Carlos Spencer had a shocker, if they had a decent kicker NZ would have won that by 10 points. Wilkinson's boot on the other hand was a match winner as he proved in the RWC final. But at no point did England really threaten to score a try from the backline, Jason Robinson never got his hands on the ball in open play.
I enjoyed that! I’m Welsh, love my rugby and know a good performance when I see one. Tremendous effort, especially by the England forwards who were immense!
It was a golden era; they beat all southern hemisphere teams on the way to 2003. My wife and I met Trevor Woodman and his partner in Perth, Western Australia; I profusely thanked him for 2003. He said he'd never watched the game!@@perrynnlynch1883
Even after all the changes in the sport, AB forwards cannot resist stamping on the unprotected head of a player trapped in a ruck. Nothing has changed in NZ since the 70s.
Wilkenson ,Woodward and pack won this one. Neil Back outstanding. Referee woeful and dishonest. Bad memories of the horrific officiating during this era. Very well done England. Bok supporter.
@@cobusnienaber979 Yes. The only thing I liked -- (would have been difficult for him to do otherwise, I suppose) -- is that he did acknowledge that NZ purported try (at 27.50 min) was not merely a 'double movement', but was in fact a 'treble movement'. (Referee: "He's held on, had a go, then a third go.")
I'm Welsh and was chuffed for them beating the ever smug,arrogant All Blacks,as I was when France thrashed them a few years earlier.It's tongue in cheek rivalry with us and England,we are neighbors,made from the same Briton blood line and are friends with many English living here.I find them charming and well mannered,and are gratious in defeat,unlike the very bad losers,New Zealand.Kiwis make Aussies seem humble!Lots of them work in Swansea (Walkabout)and think they are real special people,when in fact they are boring,self obsessed surfy type knobheads. :)
“ Wilkinson shouldn’t have had his hand in the ruck-he should have been penalised” says the NZ commentator-he was on his feet trying to win the ball and the NZ player was holding it! Seriously?!
They were undeniably the best team in the world at that time and for a couple years beforehand. Two years earlier I made a relatively bold but, pretty confident prediction that Eng would take the 2003 RWC and was roundly mocked by my fellow Kiwis and Oz & saffa mates. Wish I’d put a bet on now. Was living in Eng at the time and was genuinely chuffed to bits that they won the RWC but, still didn’t enjoy this loss one little bit Lol.
@@otumoetaipat What about at 44.08. The All Black no 5 stamps on the head of an English player. A clear red card. The ref awards a penalty against England.
After all these years i still laugh at Mexsteds commentary..Player laid on ground cannot move and Ab smashing his head with his boot and Mexsted says..The player should have moved...With 8 guys laid on top of you...Always one eyed Mexsted
I have never seen this before. The NZ commentators... were they professionals or was this just something dubbed on later by some blokes after a few beers?
Good question! Especially the Wilkinson ruck. Johnny was on his feet with hands on the ball but the TACKLED All Black held on while on the ground for dear life. "Clear NZ penalty" says the clearly former All Black commentator. Penalty England, said the referee - and every other non-ex-All Black in the entire world. Including, of course, at the time, me :)
@@Ingens_Scherz bro...that's just frustration, sore loser, sour grapes....whatever they call it.... couldn't take the fact that the No. 1 team in the world can also get their arse handed to them....On their home ground.....
Well one was an All Black captain and played for 6 years in the amateur era and the other commentator has called more games than any other in history and what rugby qualifications do you have.
thanks for the video, such a great match in terms of a field full of (soon to be) greats on both sides. its a shame that the highlights cut the 13 man period down. richard hill played 'the entire back row' for england and was incredible. would love to have seen it.
@@pigstrotters4198 The commentator even thought it was the role of the person to get out of the way of the stamping foot as opposed to not stamping in the first place.
Nz did have a rucking culture in their game , it was fucken ruthless growing up playing there decades ago, this was probably towards the very end of it , and a couple of dinosaurs in the commentary were still living in the past, , things have changed now
Shssh..you can't criticise King Carlos. At least that's what a one eyed Kiwi I watched this game with in France on the telly told me. Alongside telling me categorically that England wouldn't win the world cup.
13 years ago champ.Since then England have had 1 win and suffered 14 losses.One other thing,your commentators Miles Harrison & Stuart Barnes are biased,one eyed morons.
Best English performance since 2003 and I include the RWC final in that. Brilliant leadership by Johnson. Lewsey has been clearly raked in the ruck and complained, Johnson told him to “take the bullet” and see it through. Real character from both sides.
Always fun to watch NZ matches with NZ commentary... I think hindsight makes one realise to an even greater degree that at that time that team was the best on the planet and could beat anyone, and did.
I cannot believe that these supposed highlights did not show the kiwis failing 3 times to push back a six man english scrum. It was the defining moment of the game. PS i also love the one eyed commentry if they were English i can only imagine the posts.
Guts+pride+skill+supreme conditioning=a 15-13 win. I am English and biased, but still, this has to one of the best displays (certainly defensively) ever.
I'm no great fan of Grant Nisbet but throughout the game he praised the English defence and gave credit where due. Most home commentaries are parochial to be fair. This game was played in 2003, rucking still existed. Using hands in a ruck has never been allowed.
44:48 "He made no attempt to get out of the way"....WTF is the commentator talking about? I am Irish and I give nothing to England. If anything I am an AB supporter after my beloved Ireland but that's total shyte comment from 44:48-45:01....totally biased. Johnson was right "what about stamping on his head?" Fair play to the English....they were a good team.
@ITubaUTuba what a load of one eyed, wasps garbage. They were both giants of the game and real men. leave your club bias on the shelf mate, Johnson was a colossus.
I'd forgotten just how appallingly myopic and biased the commentary was...condoning stamping on a players head (twice) what a complete joke they were......
Don’t be a vagina this is exactly why historical judgement doesn’t work of course we’d be appalled with many things we look back on through history 🙄 (I’m not saying it’s pretty or acceptable in retrospect) but as a 45 year old man it was the norm then
j sinclair back then, if it was on the grass, it was in the game, it’s not tidily winks, i remember holding my opposition prop up in a scrum after he got sparked on the engage, i only held him up so i could destroy him some more
Me and the wife were at this game, unbelievably tense and their try was a mile offside.... Great to be English then and a few months later in Sydney...
was there at the Caketin for that game & the Poms deserved the win. Remember thinking that no-one would beat them at the World Cup if the Abs couldn't beat 13 of them at Wellington.
+cleverandrew123 Ruck was not even formed and this commentator claims Wilkinson should not have been there, extremely biased or he just does not know any rugby laws.
I’d forgotten how the New Zealand team had mastered the art of cheating in those days. They were brilliant at it, it must have been trained into them they were the best cheats I’ve ever seen in a sport. Just shows how good England were to beat the chests and the ref.
Always love watching the handshakes at the end for some reason. Good to see the respect between players even if they've just spent 80 minutes trying to knock each other out.
How did Nz loose with so much help from ref! 2 yellows and god knows how many penalties!! Worse ref I have Beverly seen he just loved the sound of his own whistle and voice!! What defence by England though!!!!
Terrible ref, I can't believe the home town commentators were justifying the deliberate stamping on Wilkinson's hand and on the players on the ground, on the basis they were committing fouls. A little difference between not releasing the ball or handling on the ground and stamping on people's heads.
Totally agree. It's like they were saying it's ok to deliberately stamp on another's head. Commentators were a joke to listen to at times, trying to justify foul play. Sweet result though.
+Niall Brady Different times though - you used to be able to do a lot of stuff you can't do now, and there were different rules at the breakdown. The attitude was very much 'if you don't want your head stamped on, don't put your head where it shouldn't be.' (And I've come across some refs who still subscribe to that view even now). Also, aren't they Australian commentators?
Fantastic English defence even when down to thirteen men, a joker for a ref., and Spencer's dismal goal kicking resulted in a great victory for England
southern hemisphere rugby on the whole is just on another level to northern, but this england team was for real. would give any team in history a real game. that pack was fearsome.
they had 2 forwards in the sin bin at the last scrum on the line. And still held the all blacks quite easily. In Dallaglio, Hill, and Johnson they legitimately had 3 of the best forwards of all time. In the same pack.
cannot believe how poor the ref was, New Zealand stamp on Wilkinson and another at the ruck but the only player picked up was an English player. The referee ruined the game not surprised he's from Australia and clearly wanted to be the man of the match
+James Darby How many times has England beaten the All Blacks in _New_ _Zealand_. ? How many times in a century? I am quite fond of England, in fact it is my favorite European team but the arrogance of the initial comment is unsufferable. So let's put things in perspective. That team was according to many comments the best English team ever. The All Black team was mediocre by AB standards. So the best English team ever barely scrapped a win against an under average AB team. That is quite of an astral conjunction isn't it? Of course I was teasing but English victories in New Zealand are so rare it was not _that_ much an exageration. Oh! and best luck for the tournament and hope you crush Wales by at least 50 points.
well when Wales were the "best ever" we beat you in NZ in the 70s and then when we were actually good, in 2002/2003 we beat you with 13 men, in your own house. We don't get many, but there's a big difference... you guys gotta get millions from the RFU just to continue, it's embaressing, we gotta pay you gius to do ya shitty dance. BTW Unbeliebable world cup
I remember watching this game with my family, brings back some good memories. The 2003 England Rugby team were phenomenal, as shown in this game. The rock solid English defence put the All Blacks under constant pressure. The English forward pack was hard and uncompromising. Jonny Wilkinson displayed his amazing goal kicking skills in very difficult conditions. The England team went on to Australia and beat the Wallabies in a test match before the world cup. Then beat the Wallabies again in the greatest rugby world cup final ever played.
My goodness, this was the only team we as Springboks feared. The All Blacks always ran us ragged, but this English team battered us. They physically dominated us constantly for like years...and became the team after the All Blacks to have a positive record against the Bokke. Glad we changed things around though. Never again should we be dominated physically. 😅
The best thing about this video of the game is the childish, whiny commentary.
It's very funny!
You have to love the way the commentators tried to justify the stamp on the head from NZ.
+TopRobbo1970 Well to be fair it is The All Blacks and they are allowed every single exception to every single rule with refs. Always hard to beat them with 16 men, just ask the French in World Cup 2011 as so many penalties were ignored that could have won the game for Le Bleu. NZ world's worst winners and world's worst losers...how's that to stir up some nasty kiwi hate comments? *watch this space lol*
Lol you have to love salty comments like this. Jealous of all blacks success
@@ShadowMan66 so that's your excuse. Just watch the last 4 minutes of the lions in 2017 and you would see
@@ShadowMan66 Cope.
We often focus an Wilkinson's kicking ability but his tackling was some of the best I have ever seen. He could bring down men twice his size.
he was a brave and very good technical tackler that put his all in, sometimes knackering his shoulder. Quality player who could have done so much more with an expansive style of play or simply gone to play league.
Watching him at Twickenham he would be at 10 and tackle then get up run around the ruck back to his position tackle again and this just went on and one. He was a machine and actually had 4-5 years out of full international rugby due to injury. Had loads of stinger injuries on shoulder then repetitive strain on groin and knee due to his obsessive kicking practice and fitness regime. They guy was an animal.
Makes farrell look amateurish
Farrell 'tackles' like a rugby league player.@@brianchester4218
That may have been his problem post 2003. I can remember wishing he would he ease off on the tackles later, when he suffered real injury problems that caused him to miss so many games.
15 years on and the number 10 is still the best tackling stand off England have ever had .
Great observation, Sam. The lad wrecked his shoulders smashing blokes twice his size.
Wilkinson? Used to go and watch Newcastle Falcons a lot back then and some of the tackles he put in were immense for his size, he was a posh gladiator
Pleased to see that people are still watching this game. I'm an NZer and have nothing but respect for this amazing England performance. The same goes for every true rugby lover that I know. The 2003 England team was mighty. The right team won the RWC.
I wish we could do it more often. Our club system is destructive to our national team set up.
Thank you mate. The All Blacks are always the level to aim at.
Yeah man
Hope England win but good luck and a great game for us Rugby fans. World love 👍👍👍🏉🏉🏉🏉🏉❤️❤️❤️
Ref degraded it for both sides and Carlos kicked for the posts poorly. I know it was windy... but Johnny W was in another class. Great game.
A top top English team. Experienced, classy, strong, determined, smart, mentally tough as teak. Respect.
Yeah, definitely! Deserved champions in 2003!
Not when you listening to whingeing Aussies! The only difference was the drop goal apparently! As a Pom living in Australia, it was wonderful.@@SoCalDreaming87
Three things stand to me about this incredible match and commentary: the absurdly biased commentators; Dallaglio’s immense work and Jonny Wilkinson - for his kicking but also for his tireless tackling. This England team was so tough in defence!
I'd add the refereeing to your list. Otherwise, I agree.
The bias of the commentary is hilarious 😂
Biased commentary, shit House unneccesary stamping on defenseless players on ground, Umagas total disregard for a fellow players wellbeing with his spear tackle on O Driscoll in 2005 yet another example of how nz used to get away with stuff. The ref was crap and we still beat em with 13. And by the way the try was offside as well.😂
People talk about Jonny Wilkinson but that whole England team was a monster.
It was a stacked team for sure. Happy it won England's first World Cup.
Yep. Dallaglio played a blinder too.
Jonny Wilkinson's kicking rightly gets attention, but his tackling was out of this world. If a tacke was missed or half missed Wilkinson would be there to end it.
Why wife had (and still has) absolutely no idea about rugby, but she always watched when Jonny Wilkinson played, with the comment. "Oh, he's so handsome". And got annoyed when he was tackled.
England had a great team then, but NZ should have won this game with ease, worst kicking I've ever seen from a tier 1 nation.
One of the finest examples of objective and impartial commentary ever heard in the history of the game
Irony abounds.....typical of Mexted, just a terrible commentator [supporter really] and the other two are not much better......disgraceful
Has the game changed so much that in 2003 a player deliberately stamping on someone`s head was`t deemed to be worthy of a mention by the commentators ???
This is a joke, right ?
Commentator saying the JW holding on penalty was wrong and he should’ve been pinged, clueless man or blinded by his heart!?
Lol 😂
When Martin Johnson was asked after the game what was going through his head when they were down to six forwards and the AB's had a scrum close to the England line, he responded "my spine" lol
lol
Notice how that scrum was censored in these highlights
@@vincentnorris4178 I know. England's scrum was bullying the AB scrum.
@@vincentnorris4178 The NZ (or whoever) are very sharp-eyed when it comes to their own appearance -- but laugh at others who voice concerns about any other teams presentation.
2002 England was better than 2003, it was a wonderful era to be a rugby player and fan.
As an Australian, this was some England side. Peaked right at the right time and well deserved WC champs
Them, 'Oops'!
2:18 "England got home (just about made it) 31 to 28, but only four of this All Black team were there". "Yes, this is the REAL business, no doubt about that". The All Blacks are probably the most successful team in Rugby and are admired and respected as such (me included). Yet commentators like these never cease suggesting that any time they've lost it's been due to some fluke, trickery, unavailability of top players or unfair refereeing. Every team in the world could claim extenuating circumstances at some time or another but don't. At least not to the same extent. I live in Wales and Andy Haden's dive in 1978 robbing Wales of a historic win is hardly ever mentioned. We lost and that's that. It's ironic that antipodeans love to use the term 'whinging poms' when it's they themselves who whinge on and on and on.
What about South Africa? How many times have they thrashed the All Blacks? How many world cups have South Africa won and how many have New Zealand won?
What’s that got to do with the price of fish? We all know ABs were poisoned in 95; and in apartheid era could never send coloured players, whilst having to cop hometown SA refs!!
@@paradisefound100 Actually, the ledger is clearly in favour of the All Blacks 59 wins to 36. And several times the All Blacks have kept SA scoreless. As for world cups its 3 a piece. Although the All Blacks are the only team to ever win back to back. So yeah careful on the rhetoric there.
Haden's dive wasn't the reason Wales were penalized in 1978
@@paulthomson2288 You're joking right? It's precisely the reason. It's on RUclips - watch it again.
I think NZ would have had about 12 players left on the pitch with today's level of refereeing and camera angles. Two would have gone in one go for the stampings....
I'm a Kiwi
But wow Johnny Wilkinson was brilliant
England the best team ever in my humble opinion
@fifthof that was not even the best Bok team. Crap final...England were just useless on the day.
Oh dear@@gel6224
Carlo’s place kicking was AWFUL! Good to watch though years later 🏉🍻
@@gel6224Why do Saffas feel the need to try and make a thread that is nothing to do with them all about the Springboks?
There's a freshly coined word for that - Saffastrating.
15 years on and i still laugh at the most biased commutators i have ever heard on TV .
I have seen worse from the Southern Hemisphere and Wales.
So much so that after a couple o minutes, I ducked out of watching...or listening.
Awful awful commentators
Agree, and m a kiwi, they sound whiny
Mate you clearly haven't heard Justin Marshall (the allblacks number 9 in this game) as a commentator. Literally makes me embarrassed to be kiwi.
"Wilkinson doesn't look that flash on his right boot". How ironic
Precisely, given the fact that a few months later he kicked the winner with that boot in the World Cup Final.
Great comment! 👍
Sort of sums up how grounded in reality the commentators were.
Ricardo Velasco - Yes, I think that’s what the OP was alluding to.
👌👍
This is without doubt my favourite match of rugby. I could watch it again and again. I don’t think England will ever have a team this well rounded that plays with this much heart and passion again.
"Chris Jack is a great footballer" v "Dallagalio has had quite a good game" ha ha ha ha ha ha!! Jack wasn't fit to lace Lozza's boots!
Chris Jack was better than that old cokehead
The RWC final that never was. Great game, great team. One of the all time great teams was this English side.
Carlos Spencer had a shocker, if they had a decent kicker NZ would have won that by 10 points. Wilkinson's boot on the other hand was a match winner as he proved in the RWC final. But at no point did England really threaten to score a try from the backline, Jason Robinson never got his hands on the ball in open play.
Nice to hear the locals respecting the kicker.
I enjoyed that! I’m Welsh, love my rugby and know a good performance when I see one. Tremendous effort, especially by the England forwards who were immense!
You can’t be Welsh ? What about Ireland and Argentina then .
One of the most disciplined defensive performance ever seen by an English rugby team. If only we had a fraction of that experience and talent now !
Top comment and England fans of a certain age will wish we could still do the business. We fell short in 2023.
Showed that they could attack the following week against the Aussies .
It was a golden era; they beat all southern hemisphere teams on the way to 2003. My wife and I met Trevor Woodman and his partner in Perth, Western Australia; I profusely thanked him for 2003. He said he'd never watched the game!@@perrynnlynch1883
Even after all the changes in the sport, AB forwards cannot resist stamping on the unprotected head of a player trapped in a ruck. Nothing has changed in NZ since the 70s.
and not penilized !!!!
Dirty, cheating c***s.
Typical whining poms
Wilkenson ,Woodward and pack won this one. Neil Back outstanding. Referee woeful and dishonest. Bad memories of the horrific officiating during this era.
Very well done England. Bok supporter.
@@cobusnienaber979 Yes. The only thing I liked -- (would have been difficult for him to do otherwise, I suppose) -- is that he did acknowledge that NZ purported try (at 27.50 min) was not merely a 'double movement', but was in fact a 'treble movement'. (Referee: "He's held on, had a go, then a third go.")
I really enjoyed the biased commentary - makes reliving the victory even sweeter.
Awesome defence exactly what we will require for lions tests
Hi def tv hadn't been invented yet. That's how long ago that win was.
How dare they play great rugby against our wonderful boys 🤣🤣
I'm Welsh and was chuffed for them beating the ever smug,arrogant All Blacks,as I was when France thrashed them a few years earlier.It's tongue in cheek rivalry with us and England,we are neighbors,made from the same Briton blood line and are friends with many English living here.I find them charming and well mannered,and are gratious in defeat,unlike the very bad losers,New Zealand.Kiwis make Aussies seem humble!Lots of them work in Swansea (Walkabout)and think they are real special people,when in fact they are boring,self obsessed surfy type knobheads. :)
Well done. That was almost English.
***** Wales : Capable in defeat.
Isn't jealousy a terrible thing
I n reality the welsh like the scottish are really poms who prefer to be called something else.
Hardly surprising i guess!
'71Barracuda We are one when it’s needed 🇬🇧👊🏼
Even as a Welshman that was a great win and a good video for anyone to study on how to beat the All Blacks at home!
What crap one of those penalties would of change that look at all the goals they missed as if the AB were going to play that same game plan again
One-eye AB commentators...never disappoint.
You do them an injustice. Two-eyes both firmly facing the ABs.
Jip. Everything is unfair and ridiculous unless the All Blacks win.
Don’t you just love unbiased commentary
😂😂😂😂
The assumption that the referee....an experienced official....is nervous because they give a decision against NZ is mind blowing.
The linesman was equally poor at intervening at critical times in favour of the Haka men.
😂😂
@@nizviz The 'ha ha' men? (Old rule of linguistics -- 'The more guttural the tone; the less nuanced the content.')
Gotta love the “un biased” commentary 😂😂😂
Shows how good England were to win in NZ and with a ref like that
Reallybadref.badforthegameonconsostantalmostbias
8 England penalties in the 1st 10 minutes. No card
This England team were like James Bond. Not always the fastest or strongest, but in a fight they always came out on top.
Best haka reaction. Watching respectfully, but genuinely not giving a shit. Jason Leonard warming up his groin while he casually watches on. Perfect.
😁😂😁😂😁😂
Loved this year . It was England's turn to shine . Anytime you beat New Zealand is to be treasured . I think our 2019 team is pretty awesome too .
The tackling of everyone in that England team has never been surpassed. No passengers there!
“ Wilkinson shouldn’t have had his hand in the ruck-he should have been penalised” says the NZ commentator-he was on his feet trying to win the ball and the NZ player was holding it! Seriously?!
They were undeniably the best team in the world at that time and for a couple years beforehand. Two years earlier I made a relatively bold but, pretty confident prediction that Eng would take the 2003 RWC and was roundly mocked by my fellow Kiwis and Oz & saffa mates. Wish I’d put a bet on now. Was living in Eng at the time and was genuinely chuffed to bits that they won the RWC but, still didn’t enjoy this loss one little bit Lol.
At 16.54, Neil Back was NOT offside. Just brilliant timing and speed.
ref fecking clueless, guesses on what he thinks he's seen when his back was turned.
You know the "last feet" law? He was in front of the last foot. Sorry.
@@otumoetaipat What about at 44.08. The All Black no 5 stamps on the head of an English player. A clear red card. The ref awards a penalty against England.
@@MrHistorian123 what about your original point?
@@otumoetaipat No he was not.
Great to watch again whilst in the "Lockdown"
watching Jan 2021 9 months after your comment aaaaaand still in lockdown.
After all these years i still laugh at Mexsteds commentary..Player laid on ground cannot move and Ab smashing his head with his boot and Mexsted says..The player should have moved...With 8 guys laid on top of you...Always one eyed Mexsted
In 2021 the AB player would have been red carded and banned for several months
Real dirty that was knew exactly what he was doing...anyone who stamps on someone's head with purpose deserves jail time on or off a pitch
I have never seen this before. The NZ commentators... were they professionals or was this just something dubbed on later by some blokes after a few beers?
Good question! Especially the Wilkinson ruck. Johnny was on his feet with hands on the ball but the TACKLED All Black held on while on the ground for dear life. "Clear NZ penalty" says the clearly former All Black commentator. Penalty England, said the referee - and every other non-ex-All Black in the entire world. Including, of course, at the time, me :)
@@Ingens_Scherz bro...that's just frustration, sore loser, sour grapes....whatever they call it.... couldn't take the fact that the No. 1 team in the world can also get their arse handed to them....On their home ground.....
@@Island3r I watched NZ vs Canada in this 2019 World Cup and the commentators were sickeningly biased and crowing over Canada's humiliation.
Well one was an All Black captain and played for 6 years in the amateur era and the other commentator has called more games than any other in history and what rugby qualifications do you have.
They're still shit
thanks for the video, such a great match in terms of a field full of (soon to be) greats on both sides. its a shame that the highlights cut the 13 man period down. richard hill played 'the entire back row' for england and was incredible. would love to have seen it.
That England team in 2003 was a great side and they deserved to beat our boys that night and win the RWC.We got outsmarted and outplayed.
Jason Ryan
Michael Dobson
Richard Hill..best no7 in English rugby history.
Anyone who stamps on someone's head should never be allowed to play rugby again.
No....You shouldn't have your head there in the first place (Kiwi logic)
@@pigstrotters4198 The commentator even thought it was the role of the person to get out of the way of the stamping foot as opposed to not stamping in the first place.
@@pigstrotters4198 what time stamp is the head stamp? I saw an all lack rucking the tackled players shoulder at one point
@hytwoxy ah yep, not pretty.
Nz did have a rucking culture in their game , it was fucken ruthless growing up playing there decades ago, this was probably towards the very end of it , and a couple of dinosaurs in the commentary were still living in the past, , things have changed now
Spencer was such an enigma. Sometimes he was the best player on the pitch, and other times just shake-your-head dreadful.
Shssh..you can't criticise King Carlos.
At least that's what a one eyed Kiwi I watched this game with in France on the telly told me. Alongside telling me categorically that England wouldn't win the world cup.
agreed the 2003 semi vs australia was a paryivularly bad game by his standards.
Undoubtedly some poor reffing decisions in that game, but for the commentators to excuse that manner of stamping on players is ridiculous
What a true commentary whether your winning or losing that's the best impartial comentry iv ever seen ,be truthfull and say it how it is ❤
Any wonder everyone outside of NZ likes to see NZ lose
Not only a filthy team but the commentary possibly the most one eyed ever!! Revenge is a dish best served cold well done the red rose
13 years ago champ.Since then England have had 1 win and suffered 14 losses.One other thing,your commentators Miles Harrison & Stuart Barnes are biased,one eyed morons.
Stephen Butler don't think it was a filthy team but if there were video refs like today the stamping from new Zealand would have been a red.
Jason Ryan oh dear
Paul Cooper still salty over 2015? I would be to if my team crashed and burned like yours did.
Not at all England played awful in the world cup.
For better quality: watch this with sound muted..
I did
Best English performance since 2003 and I include the RWC final in that. Brilliant leadership by Johnson. Lewsey has been clearly raked in the ruck and complained, Johnson told him to “take the bullet” and see it through. Real character from both sides.
Always fun to watch NZ matches with NZ commentary... I think hindsight makes one realise to an even greater degree that at that time that team was the best on the planet and could beat anyone, and did.
Kiwi sheep sha???rs
I cannot believe that these supposed highlights did not show the kiwis failing 3 times to push back a six man english scrum. It was the defining moment of the game. PS i also love the one eyed commentry if they were English i can only imagine the posts.
Guts+pride+skill+supreme conditioning=a 15-13 win. I am English and biased, but still, this has to one of the best displays (certainly defensively) ever.
Howlett was a country mile offside for that try!
the tmos weren't allowed to rule on that though
No he wasn’t
@@toomuch9762 oh yes he was!
At least two metres offside.
@@jonsirulesx9929 m
Gotta love the one eyed New Zealand expert -!
As an Englishman, I never tire of the hilarious commentary. They don't set the bar very high down under.
This commentator is the most one-eyed simpleton I've ever heard.
Grant Nisbett is undoubtedly the worst commentator of all time
"Sorry I couldn't take my hand from under your boot mate".
His justification for the stamping "he made no attempt to get out of the way" was unbelievable.
I'm no great fan of Grant Nisbet but throughout the game he praised the English defence and gave credit where due. Most home commentaries are parochial to be fair.
This game was played in 2003, rucking still existed. Using hands in a ruck has never been allowed.
I'm British , but well done Ireland! Let's hope the Paddies meet NZ in the next round and thrash the living daylights out of them.
turgid match, great viewing, nice to see the sportsmanship of the NZ crowd during the English kicks !!!
That English forward pack is the best pack I've ever seen in my lifetime bar none.
For England....NZ world cup 2015 was better
@@vagalN Wrong
@@Macron87 we will never know. But opinions are free
44:48 "He made no attempt to get out of the way"....WTF is the commentator talking about? I am Irish and I give nothing to England. If anything I am an AB supporter after my beloved Ireland but that's total shyte comment from 44:48-45:01....totally biased. Johnson was right "what about stamping on his head?" Fair play to the English....they were a good team.
There's biased, and then there's that fella.
Not sure how he got the commentary gig.
You'd have to ask the New Zealanders
Not a good team ,a great team.
Martin Johnson: the kind of leader you'd follow in to hell. Few inspire men like that!
Damn, I miss that 2002-2003 vintage England team!
@ITubaUTuba what a load of one eyed, wasps garbage. They were both giants of the game and real men. leave your club bias on the shelf mate, Johnson was a colossus.
And where did Johnson learn his rugby, yes New Zealand!
Johnson smiling when the AB gave up a penalty on England's try line...priceless!
I'd forgotten just how appallingly myopic and biased the commentary was...condoning stamping on a players head (twice) what a complete joke they were......
kiwi commentators are the same today, begrudgers the lot of em
Richard Hill ....just the GAFFER
Don’t be a vagina this is exactly why historical judgement doesn’t work of course we’d be appalled with many things we look back on through history 🙄 (I’m not saying it’s pretty or acceptable in retrospect) but as a 45 year old man it was the norm then
j sinclair back then, if it was on the grass, it was in the game, it’s not tidily winks, i remember holding my opposition prop up in a scrum after he got sparked on the engage, i only held him up so i could destroy him some more
@@MrKelso85 It wasn't the norm when I played Rugby in the 70's let alone in 2003
Me and the wife were at this game, unbelievably tense and their try was a mile offside.... Great to be English then and a few months later in Sydney...
Richie and Nonu there!! Respect for the legacy!! 2015 was magnificent. 2007 was a watershed RWC moment of growth for the ABs.
was there at the Caketin for that game & the Poms deserved the win. Remember thinking that no-one would beat them at the World Cup if the Abs couldn't beat 13 of them at Wellington.
That was an awesome team, Martin Johnson was a fantastic captain.
39:50
What the fuck? Umaga is clearly holding onto the ball, and Wilkinson is on his feet. What are the commentators on about?
Same think I was thinking. Who is this fucking moron?
And especially during this era, for an AB announcer to be bitching about someone slowing down the ball.
Bill Dillard It's Murray Mexted. One-eyed, blinkered and very fucking biased ex-All Black TV "pundit"
+oysterman250 Probably the most biased commentator in the history of the game.
+cleverandrew123 Ruck was not even formed and this commentator claims Wilkinson should not have been there, extremely biased or he just does not know any rugby laws.
Commentary courtesy of Dumb and Dumber.
Or even Dumber and Dumbest.
I completely agree... one of them doesn't even seem to know the laws of rugby... both of them are wrong on so many occasions.
Dominic Pannell - You seems to forget - there is only one law - NZ are always in the right!😊
I’d forgotten how the New Zealand team had mastered the art of cheating in those days.
They were brilliant at it, it must have been trained into them they were the best cheats
I’ve ever seen in a sport. Just shows how good England were to beat the chests and
the ref.
England still won even playing 16 men, the reffing was appalling.
Martin Johnson to referee 45:20 " You didn`t see him , standing on his head ?"
Pound for pound JW must be one of the most effective tacklers ever. 18 stone props literally stopped in their tracks at full speed.
Yep, and he buggered his shoulder by the end of his early exit career because of it.
Cost him 2 years plus on his career….but all or nothing with JW
The England team / class of 2003 were an absolute beast. England will never produce a team as good as this one.
They did. They produced that one.
44:45 - stamping on his head and no mention? FUCKING AWFUL COMMENTATING AND REFEERING
Always love watching the handshakes at the end for some reason. Good to see the respect between players even if they've just spent 80 minutes trying to knock each other out.
How did Nz loose with so much help from ref! 2 yellows and god knows how many penalties!! Worse ref I have Beverly seen he just loved the sound of his own whistle and voice!! What defence by England though!!!!
Shock, Kiwis showing a significant lack of sportsmanship and respect, even in 2003.
Terrible ref, I can't believe the home town commentators were justifying the deliberate stamping on Wilkinson's hand and on the players on the ground, on the basis they were committing fouls. A little difference between not releasing the ball or handling on the ground and stamping on people's heads.
Totally agree. It's like they were saying it's ok to deliberately stamp on another's head. Commentators were a joke to listen to at times, trying to justify foul play. Sweet result though.
+Niall Brady Different times though - you used to be able to do a lot of stuff you can't do now, and there were different rules at the breakdown. The attitude was very much 'if you don't want your head stamped on, don't put your head where it shouldn't be.' (And I've come across some refs who still subscribe to that view even now).
Also, aren't they Australian commentators?
+Chris McKeon no they are kiwi, aussie ref
How does one get rid of the ball when someone' s stamping on your head? Reminded me of McRae against O'Gara.
Right on both counts, mate.
martin johnson. truly epic leader on the pitch.....
"What do we do now Johnno?" "Shut up, bend over, and fkin push!"
Fantastic English defence even when down to thirteen men, a joker for a ref., and Spencer's dismal goal kicking resulted in a great victory for England
Still feel Howlett was offside, in front of the kicker, before running on to score his try!
this was such a great era of rugby, the early 2000's. The big 3 southern teams plus England, so many great players
Steve K how rugby should always be and the high flying French
I always thought of Kiwi's as Aussies unlovable cousins. These commentators compound that.
+Jack Ward fuck off jerk sack
Yeah cos the Aussies are so loveable!!!
@@TheForge10 Not you. What's not to love about that comment?
Must be a Yankee because you've got it the exact opposite to how it is .
Jack Ward brilliant
southern hemisphere rugby on the whole is just on another level to northern, but this england team was for real.
would give any team in history a real game. that pack was fearsome.
Did you hear that comment ten years ago, and think it was still relevant.
+MKRM27 That England team definitely would have destroyed today's England team. And would have stood a good chance of beating any team at the moment.
they had 2 forwards in the sin bin at the last scrum on the line. And still held the all blacks quite easily.
In Dallaglio, Hill, and Johnson they legitimately had 3 of the best forwards of all time. In the same pack.
Suddenly a different story with Lancaster gone!
Dallaglio was a really good player. I think he is one of the best forwards of the last 20 years. All opinions of course.
TJ is your man for unbiased and good running commentary
All the time in the world for Johnnos chuckle and ‘unlucky’ at 28 mins.
I’d forgotten how biased Dickinson was. Lewsey’s head being trampled on by two ABs, Johnno gets the lecture!
The refereeing in this game was atrocious. Luckily Carlos couldn't kick goals to save his life and Wilko kicked everything.
There is nothing wrong with the refereeing.
pix046 English player steps on a thigh= penalty Kiwi stomps on a head= nothing.. care to rethink your comment?
Meanwhile Dan Carter was on the bench and never got subbed on haha
@@davsavchav Carter was just a kid at the time , mertins shouldve been on the bench to be honest
@@camwells9726 Carter played very well in 2003, though Mauger at 12 helped him a lot in his those years.
Cyclops commentators and it also reminded me why I used to wonder how Stuart Dickinson EVER made an international panel referee.
Stuart Dickenson was the worst referee ever
Ali Williams was literally stamping on Lewsey's head in the ruck near the end and Mexted nor Nisbitt see it! 🤣🤣
England were incredibly disciplined back then which goes a long way in a rugby match.
cannot believe how poor the ref was, New Zealand stamp on Wilkinson and another at the ruck but the only player picked up was an English player. The referee ruined the game not surprised he's from Australia and clearly wanted to be the man of the match
Great game despite the refereeing. The kicking by Wilkinson in that strong swirling wind was ridiculously good.
New Zealand just got beaten by the better team, England.
+Lardinho Redbeard Enjoy it. Neither you nor children will see that happening again
+Nemo Captain You have made yourself a hostage to fortune ... keep on editing ...
+Nemo Captain 2012 Autumn internationals? guess our kids did see it!
+James Darby How many times has England beaten the All Blacks in _New_ _Zealand_. ? How many times in a century? I am quite fond of England, in fact it is my favorite European team but the arrogance of the initial comment is unsufferable. So let's put things in perspective. That team was according to many comments the best English team ever. The All Black team was mediocre by AB standards. So the best English team ever barely scrapped a win against an under average AB team. That is quite of an astral conjunction isn't it?
Of course I was teasing but English victories in New Zealand are so rare it was not _that_ much an exageration. Oh! and best luck for the tournament and hope you crush Wales by at least 50 points.
well when Wales were the "best ever" we beat you in NZ in the 70s and then when we were actually good, in 2002/2003 we beat you with 13 men, in your own house. We don't get many, but there's a big difference... you guys gotta get millions from the RFU just to continue, it's embaressing, we gotta pay you gius to do ya shitty dance. BTW Unbeliebable world cup
I remember watching this game with my family, brings back some good memories.
The 2003 England Rugby team were phenomenal, as shown in this game.
The rock solid English defence put the All Blacks under constant pressure.
The English forward pack was hard and uncompromising.
Jonny Wilkinson displayed his amazing goal kicking skills in very difficult conditions.
The England team went on to Australia and beat the Wallabies in a test match before the world cup.
Then beat the Wallabies again in the greatest rugby world cup final ever played.
My goodness, this was the only team we as Springboks feared. The All Blacks always ran us ragged, but this English team battered us. They physically dominated us constantly for like years...and became the team after the All Blacks to have a positive record against the Bokke. Glad we changed things around though. Never again should we be dominated physically. 😅
The anglophobic BBC reported on the game, still online
"It was not a vintage England performance and they struggled in almost every phase of play."
+john smith "anglophobic BBC" - repetition is redundant.
i don't know who the one eyed kiwi commentator is but this is at another level
Great win, especially when the 13 men had play 15 Kiwis and 1 Aussie at one stage!
Irppk
The Kiwi commentary is fantastically one eyed!
It’s hard to find films of the All Blacks flogging England 1000 times but you can find England beating the All Blacks 1 or 2 times everywhere