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They did that to change from the book she had two sons they asked her two pick which. Once she does it was the older brother not the prince. He looked at the boy and said look your mother want you dead. So they killed the young one instead which was the prince. A son for a son
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@@damascus9876 Rhaenyra & Alicent are the only powerful people who seem to give a damn about the smallfolk. Knowing how many would die in her name is the reason Rhaenyra is so scared to start the real war.
I feel like Aegon destroying the "Valyrian city" is symbolic for so many things. Could represent Viserys' legacy crumbling or even the start of the downfall of the Targaryens, the last nobility of Valyria.
To be fair the only thing going for the Targaryen’s was their dragons granted they are pretty big thing but without them, I mean the Lannisters are rich beyond comprehension, Starks are the oldest major house they extremely well respected and have ties everywhere, Baratheons had extremely good warriors and commanders, the Targaryens without dragons most of them are just petty people with massive egos. So when they lost them yk what I mean.
This is a great observation, I wasn't thinking much of this scene than to show Aegon's rage but now that you mentioned it, I think there was some symbolism in there
- Abandoned His Post - Gets Jaeharys Killed - Screws His Kings Mom - Has a BITTER resentment for a girl who didn't run away with him when she was HEIR TO THE THRONE - Sent an innocent man to die due to the guilt of his failure -Get Promoted to HAND OF THE KING I hate this guy. Holy shit.
I hate him, but he is Alicent’s sworn protector. The problem is he never assigned someone to bring the Queen’s protector or the heir’s protector. ESPECIALLY in a time of war.
Ikr, if rhaenyra hadnt freed myssaria in order for her to then spot Arryk as she was leaving, he probably would've gotten the job done. It's so funny cause I thought it was a ridiculous plan that never couldve worked in a million years.
To be honest, it’s a bit of sloppy writing. Everyone there knows he has a twin brother. So him walking up to the door, when the guards thought he was already inside, should have raised red flags. Even the guard he relieves outside her chambers gives him a slightly funny look. Rhaenyra should have had him shave or given him a face tattoo to prevent the possibility of his twin infiltrating.
@@matias250 it's never implied that Cercei was hoping that a boar would kill Robert. But a hunt is a hunt, sometimes accidents happen, and a king full of strong wine can fall out of his horse and break his neck. I mean it was still dumb for a plan that her and her children's lifes were riding on, but not as dumb as hoping that Robert will meet a boar and his guard will allow Robert to be gutted by it.
it would have worked if he didn't give himself away as soon as he entered ranny's room. i mean unsheathing your sword as soon as you enter? that was very stupid.
I’m so glad he has more to do this season. People were very much like “I think the actor playing Aegon is not good” because we spent so little time with adult Aegon. Tom is just knocking it out of the park - because even when he was whiney Aegon in the back of the carriage with his mother going to get crowned, you could see the pain and hurt and his feeling of unworthiness. Now you see his rage and grief as a father mourning. He’s so good.
100%. His delivery of “we know our enemy!” gives me freaking chills. Idk if you’ve read A Court of Thorns and Roses, but I think he would make an amazing Eris.
@@LunarHexagon also he was comedy gold in the first episode when hearing the petitions. "lets just give back his sheep, he came all that way. They wouldn't know" while Otto getting more and more frustrated. I'm sure it was more about Aegon wanting to be seen as caring than actually caring. But still that scene humanized him a bit and was a great contrast to what happened this episode
I also like how Cole was criticizing Arryk's cloak being dirty as a result of him performing his duty, whilst his was clean as a result of not doing so
I already hate him more. Ramsey was a psycho and he knows is a psycho. Cole is a smoll bitter resentfull prick and still think about himself as a just and pure knight
@@anhkriva5274 Alicent also had a mother. At the beginning of season one Daemon makes a jab at Otto saying he'd lost his wife recently when everyone was pressuring Viserys to remarry. So Alicent had a mother almost as long ad Rhaenyra did.
It’s more so the similarity between her and Otto as parents, more than the difference between her and Rhaenyra. I think that was the message the show writers were trying to tell us, but you could be right. It’s all opinions anyway
Or maybe it’s the fact she doesn’t like aegon at all! Dude literally wacked off the side of the castle and SA’d multiple girls and had children fighting each other to death. I wouldn’t like my son either😬🙄
@@joshuarojas5543 she does like her son. I think that much is clear, because if she didn’t, then she would’ve plotted to get him unseated and Rhaenyra to sit the throne. She has issues expressing her care towards them, as Otto did her. However, the difference between her and Otto is that she thinks everything will end up peaceful and doesn’t know the demands of war. Otto knew that, which is why he plotted to let Aegon ascend either way.
The creator of the show confirmed that they both got the same injuries so that we couldn’t tell them apart for a moment and but Erryk wins and then falls on his sword
I think Arryk won because in the books, he does. And the "forgive me Your Grace", is because he didn't choose Rhaneyra and followed his brother. But in the end, he DOES 😢
@@J1283-s1k How humiliating that ur observation skills are of a 3 yr old with 50 IQ. Sorry lil bro go rewatch and see both brothers slash each others legs...or is it sashed XD.
Erryk killing himself because he would not be able to live with the guilt of killing his own brother broke my heart, the saddest moment of this episode 💔
It was an interesting change from the book. I mean hard to say he could survive his wounds. But I like the change, showing the impact even at the start of the war.
For real. Everyone knows someone like that; can't do his actual job but keeps getting promoted because he sucks up to the bosses and helps them with their petty stuff.
I'm a mother of a son and when Alicent walked away from Aegon crying I got so mad I was shouting at the screen hold your son no matter what shit is going on around you if you see your son sobbing and grieving the death of their own son you hold your child
@@kathykay975she walked away because she was never given comfort by Otto and she passes that onto her own children Even in this episode Alicent wants to confess to Otto and he doesnt want to hear it.
You are me and I am you because I was so upset that she just stood there awkwardly for a moment then turned and all but ran away from her broken child!!! Both Aegon and Helaena needed their mother’s comfort and she turned to her damn walking d*ldo instead for her OWN comfort like…her and Crispy Dick Cole deserve each other. They disgust me!
@kathykay975 No. He was in pain. It was the perfect time to comfort him. *That* would indeed have cooled down his anger. Or at least tempered his rash behavior. She might have been able to gently reason with him not to fire Otto. Instead, she abandoned him. And he knew that she did because he knows she walked into that room, and then left him alone. Again! That only reinforces his belief that no one loves him, making him even more bitter, angry, and vengeful.
Interesting that the person Aemond seeks comfort from is an older woman, older than his mom in fact. In addition to the sex, she provides him the kind of nurturing maternal love that he received little of when growing up. That scene was the most vulnerable I've ever seen Aemond. He's able to let his guard down with this woman. I'm sure she's the only one he's told that he has some regrets about killing Lucerys. It's really good that he has someone like that.
I noticed that too... His own mother wasn't nurturing. You can see the sadness in his eyes, not just for Luc but for himself as well... He knew full well why he sought comfort from her instead of his family
Alicent did poorly raising her children which is why they all have personal issues while Rhaenyra’s “bastards” seem like decent boys. Alicent is a hypocrite fraud through and through.
@@Ashbrash1998Viserys had cuts all over his back. The very first scene of Viserys we see him being treated on a wound on the back. The Throne rejected Viserys. He was a good man but bad king. Aegon is a troubled young man which had no proper education to be king but he has already showed kindness to the common people.
When Rhaenyra says "I'm the queen" like every episode , team black cult clap like simple minded seals 🤡 Aegon says " I'm the King " once , here comes some team black clown quoting Tywin 😂😂😂 you can't make this 💩 up
Aegon called him out for not standing a post when his son was murdered... Wait til he finds out the real reason why (hopefully)... Cole had some nerve then blaming someone else for his royal eff up. He brings shame upon himself and doesn't deserve his white cloak. I can't stand him continually talking crap about Rhaenyra while doing what he's doing... He's right up there with Joffrey and Ramsey, as far as despicable characters go! Season 1 Cole: He's not a bad guy, I feel for him Season 2 Cole: I can't stand this mfer!
The writers of this episode deserve an award. The dialogues are just deep and immersive as if you're actually in the same room where the characters are.
when you said, "anyone who said 'i am the king'" i immediately replied, "is no true king" lmaoo edit: some people should really learn to grasp the context because i am referring to a pavlov response to tywin lannister’s quote lol i ain’t give no two fucks about what team u are
@@pitoseavy4523 their*. and my comment focuses on what is being said and who says it in the previous franchise. it’s all about GOT and HOTD fans/watchers reminiscing similar scenes or moment
Gosh I have had it with Otto. Yes, he’s correct that Aegon’s actions were idiotic, but was he not the one to put him on the throne. Aegon didn’t want this and he’s paid for it with his son, and then here comes Otto running salt into the wound. Aegon and Criston are pinging their one brain cell off each other, but this is literally all bc of Otto.
Because he didn't think that Aegon would be so "stupid" (according to his own POV) that he let himself think that Viserys was even better. Also putting Aegon on the throne was definitely a choice for him to assert his family on the throne (and I don't mean the Targaryen but the "Hightower side" of the family in a way)
Otto literally did the same with nobles in episode 9 - Lord Caswell was hanging in the castle for an attempt to leave KL. A death of a noble is far worse for the reputation
Daemon did give an order to Blood and Cheese. We saw saw him tell them to take out Aemond, but we also saw Cheese ask him what they should do if they can't find Aemond, and then the scene cut away without showing Daemon's answer. However, it's pretty obvious he did give them an answer. When Cheese had the knife against Helaena's throat, Blood told him their orders were "a son for a son". We didn't see Daemon tell them "a son for a son", so it stands to reason that Daemon gave that instruction in response to what they should do if they could not find Aemond
Another thing, it’s funny to see how they’re reacting to the babies death but not ONE of them stopped & thought to themselves “wow is this what rhaenyra went through?????? Is this the same pain she felt??? Now i finally understand what pain we’ve inflicted.”
Exactly!!!!!! Like they’re so shocked she could do something so cruel… like did they forget what they did to her! And Aegon and Otto definitely suggested murdering her and her family in the episode 1 so it’s hilarious they think they’re somehow the victims and that they deserve revenge
@@jonblackfyre are you kidding?? Luke was 14 and he had promised his mother he wouldn’t fight because he was only there as a messenger and then he got chased down by a massive ass war dragon and eaten so he was defenseless because he had no way to fight Vhagar and he had sworn not to fight so he couldn’t fight Aemond. A 14 year old is a child!
@@Zarab923 both of them were kids, but this comparison don't made any fucking sense. Jaehaerys was ON HIS BED, DEFENSELESS. He don't even have a dragon, NOT EVEN A TRAINING
I really liked Otto in this episode, probably for the first time ever. And I'm glad that we were shown his wise side. He was the right Hand of two kings who managed to maintain peace and rule wisely. And this was largely thanks to Otto. But in the end, his time passed, and he took on his soul a sin for which the royal family will pay on both sides. And of course, thank that they FINALLY mentioned Daeron, who should have appeared in season 1, so as not to shock the audience now, but we have what we have... P.s. Aegon played by Tom Glynn-Carney turned out great. There is simply no more controversial character in the series. He literally drives you crazy, goes from hate to love and in circles.
His own doing. If he was loyal he would be a hand of the Queen now and the realm would thrive. He wanted his blood on the throne and his line is dripping idiots
Daemon for his many faults does love Rhaenyra. He just isn't a team player. You want him as an alley but you should expect him to follow his own path. He's a double edge sword that will do just as much damage to his side as his opponent's if one is not careful.
I love the story of the Cargyll twins. They were so loyal to their word and the crown that they turned on the person they were the closest to in the whole world. It is so sad that Criston Cole to deal with his own guilt killed two men who really knew what honor was.
So far, Aegon has been one of the most interesting characters on the show. I don't think he will be like Joffrey or the mad king. He seems to have a bit more nuance to him. Not saying he is a good guy, just he is interesting to watch. The actor also has some really insightful things to say about him in the after the episode bits & interviews.
They're doing a good job of depicting both sides as evil and showing that the only thing that comes of a conflict like this is civil war and suffering. Big fan of the show thus far.
@@NikkiStevenReact And I really enjoy that you guys are also picking up on it and not just blindly sticking with one side (even if one side definitely is more morally sound than the other). Keep up the great work!
Otto was right at the start of the episode. It's a tragedy, but nothing will bring the child's life back. If the death can be used to stop a full out civil war, this theater can can now save countless lives, including all the other kids on both sides. It's painful, but it's the right choice. At the end he didn't "let her off". His daughter wanted to talk to him, share her actions, and probably wanting his comfort. He didn't "let her off easy", he pushed her away. She never had a loving parent, so she doesn't know how to be one to her kids. Aemond's looking for motherly love in a courtesan is another consequence of that family's broken relationship with each other.
Absolutely. It's brutal, but an heir can be replaced (something that real medieval dynasties were fully aware of). A reputation, once lost, can rarely be recovered.
There was also the scene after Aemond got his eye cut, where Aemond put his head on Alicent, just wanting some comfort from his mom. But all he heard was “Bring me Luke’s eye”, so he recalled to that at Storm’s End, to “take it as a gift to my mother”. And now the scene in the brothel. He just wanted his mother to love him, and I think it shows the similarity between Otto and Alicent.
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Daemon was leaving to raise a army for her at harrenhal. If you replay the conversation between Raenara and him after she confront him about his actions he says, I'm the one going to harrenhal to raise you a army, or something along those lines.
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Book lore (NO future spoilers - just the fight between the twins): Arryk arrived on the island disguised as a fisherman, changed to his Kingsguard armor and white cloak, and easily entered the castle. However, as Arryk was making his way to the royal apartments, he coincidentally encountered Erryk, who immediately understood why his twin was there. Accounts of the fight that followed greatly differ. Septon Eustace's account simply states that the Cargyll twins slew each other. According to singers, the brothers professed their love for each other as they drew their swords. Per Grand Maester Munkun's The Dance of the Dragons, A True Telling, Erryk and Arryk battled for most of an hour. The noise of the fight woke half of Rhaenyra's court, but they could only watch, as none could tell which twin was which. In the end, Arryk and Erryk mortally wounded each other, and died in each other's arms, weeping. And finally, per The Testimony of Mushroom, the fight lasted only moments, and the brothers did not declare their love, but rather called each other traitor. Erryk struck the first mortal blow, nearly cutting off Arryk's arm at the shoulder. As Arryk collapsed, he grabbed Erryk's cloak and pulled him close to stab him in the belly with a dagger. Arryk was dead before anyone found them, but Erryk took four days to die from his gut wound, screaming in pain and cursing his brother the whole time. I love how the show encapsulated a piece from nearly all "eyewitness" accounts of the fight.
Did they not use Great to describe offspring back then? Otto is the Father of Alicent, Aegon is Alicent's son, which makes Jaeharys Otto's Great Grandson right?
Otto and his family aren't even the main line of the Hightowers. The lord of House Hightower is Otto's brother, seen last season, and his children will carry on the bloodline. And Oldtown, where they rule, was seen in Game of Thrones, and it is still standing. Also, Prince Daeron gets his first mention in the show! This is Alicient's fourth child, which was hinted at in the previous opening (which showed the family tree), but has so far gone unmentioned. He's in Oldtown with the Hightowers. Looking forward to when we finally get to see him on the screen.
After rewatching the 1st season I have a certain respect for Otto. He’s literally just like Tywin Lannister both characters are the most logical thinkers in their position. Some of their decisions seem messed up but if you take emotions out of it they make the most sound decisions in their situations. The thing is when you sit in such a high position and every decision you make affects thousands of people you have to think about what makes the most sense instead of making decisions based on how you feel. Otto using his grandsons death as a political pawn to sway the emotions of the masses is no different than how emmet tills death was used to bolster the civil rights movement.
It would have been funny if once Otto was out of the room, he swiftly put an emergency hand of the king badge on and breathes a sigh of relief for having one on.
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I'm thinking Larys might have Cole killed eventually. First Cole took his woman (and her feet) and now Cole gets hand of the king instead of Larys. I think Larys will spill the secrets and get Cole killed. I hope so anyways
Did you guys notice that Alicent suddenly has a son we never heard of before? When Otto says he's going to old town, he says: you have another son there, Daeron might listen to me. I thought you were going to go: who's Daeron? 😅 I was wondering if they would include him this season. In the books he is the youngest of Viserys and Alicent's kids.
And roughly the same age as his eldest nephew, Jace. I recall Viserys decreed that the two would share the same wet nurse. In hopes that being "milk brothers" (yes, that is a thing) would forge a bond between them. But it did not.
That scene between Rhaenyra and Daemon was spectacular writing and acting. It felt genuine. They are such amazing actors. Criston Cole seems to be the Littlefinger of this show so far.
Anyone else fine it really interesting that Alicent and Cole have their elicit affair in Rhaenyra's old room on her bed, the same bed Cole did the deed with Rhaenyra? Like don't these two have any shame? All this talk about Rhaenyra being a C U Next Tuesday and hating her for seducing him like a cruel spider or whatever like it was some big offense to his honour but he keeps going back to that same room and bed to do the same thing but with Alicent. And I don't even have words for whatever Alicent is doing. She's so nasty.
Team green actors are knocking it out of the part this season so far. Every actor is fantastic, but the green actors/characters are so different from each other and so good individually and together that it makes me really engaged with them
At first I was worried that the writers completey excluded Daeron from the show.. They finally mentioned my boy! When he shows up and he will, I hope they will portray him right - like in the books. For me he is not like Aegon or Aemond. He was a fairly kind, clever, and humble guy. Definitely the best among Alicen't sons. And honestly? The best among all of Viserys' kids (barring Helaena who we all love). Too bad, he was Alicent's third son. If Daeron was her eldest son then that throne would have been his. Or at the very least, Rhaenyra would have a tough time trying to defeat him. Because he's at least someone you can support for a reason beyond his so-called "birthright". (Spoiler for non book readers) The toughest part with Daeron is that he is a kid - some of the worst atrocities occur directly under his watch after Tumbleton, he isn't directly committing them like Aemond burning the riverlands or Aegon's litany of dark and violent deeds, but because he is 'a Targaryen alone in the world', and a kid besides, he's unable to do anything about it. Literally just if Ormond had lived, if Aemond had not been so overly single minded on vengeance against Daemon, if Daeron hadn't burned hundreds of injured people in a Sept at Bitterbridge (😬 I can believe he set the whole town on fire by accident the way it is described, especially considering how disgusted he is later), if Daeron's councilors had not been afraid of giving up potential dragon power and imprisoned/killed the betrayers sooner, if the men around him weren't so selfishly power hungry, things could have worked out differently. It's also possible history speaks better of him because he dies. Nonthelsss I can't wait till they give us Daeron the Daring alongside Tessarion! This episode was an emotional roller-coaster. From watching Aegon and poor Haleana griefing over their baby boy 😢. The Daemon and Rhaenyra "fall-out". But I know Daemon will undo his mistake in the next episode. Aemond cheeks supremacy!!!The Cargyll twins duell was so emotional I can't even 😭 Ser Criston probably by now the most disliked character! 🤣 Tom Glynn Carney, Emma D'Arcy and Rhys Ifans put a god-tier performance in this episode! peak acting.
Otto: refuses to hear his daughters grief stricken admissions Alicent: refuses to console her grieving and tattered son Aegon: refuses to even stop to say a kind word to his sister-wife 😭 generational trauma and sins of the parent in real time, otto so caught up in using his daughter as a tool that there was never any real father-daughter bond there, no emotional connection, and that has trickled down into how alicent is as a parent, and how aegon is as a person
In the first episode, after Heleana pointed to her boy, she had complete terror in her face and said "NO" and then proceeded to get her daughter. Now, since they say Heleana is a dreamer and can see the future, in that moment, she realizes it is really happening and that she is not in a dream.
King's landing and the Palace are going to be overrun with rats 😂 I hope the writers decide to show this as the consequence of Aegon killing all the rat catchers. Others will be terrified of taking up the work for sure
That scene between Rhaenyra and Daemon was so fucking awesome. Matt Smith and Emma are both so good and have fantastic chemistry. I’ve had a crush on Matt Smith since he was The Doctor and this role just cemented it. So good.
They’re both sweethearts, that’s for sure. Did you hear Matt say that the director gave them total freedom how to play it, how to block it. Great actors are such a blessing
The owners are letting their mad dogs run free and not taking no accountability. Rhyneara knows Daemon is reckless. She stood in front of the counsel and said "I want Aemond." Alicent is allowing Larys to do as he pleases. Otto has lost control of Aegon. Aegon has no idea Cole is unhinged. They are all reaping what they sowed.
@@sproductionsinc yes, she is also a queen first, she shouldn't just throw this without knowing how her husband would react, what he wishes for literally the mirror of "a queen makes a wish" scene from s1
Yes, she said that she wants Aemond. That doesn't mean that she sent Daemon to King's Landing. In fact, you can clearly see that when the Blacks get the news, noone even looks at Daemon. Which means nobody authorized him going to King's Landing to kill anybody. He did that on his own accord.
Lets not forget the mention of ‘Daeron’ by Hightower who is currently training as a Squire in Old Town. Daeron is growing & will be a badass also. Did someone say ‘The Battle of Honeywine’? This show has soo much more to go, I can easily see 4 or 5 seasons.
Didn't you see Daemon look at Rhaenerya before he left? Translated properly that look means "I am off to join the Nights Watch". I don't understand how people are not getting this.
The twins fight was one of the most gut wrenching moments for me in the book and although a little different it's still equally as sucky in live action. The book hits a little harder though with them both telling each other they love one another before going ahead and both doing their duty and fighting each other now they have come face to face on opposing sides.
I litterally saw Matt Smith a couple days ago in Worthing on the seafront and he seemed so chill and nice yet his character in this is so calculated and confusing. Honestly an amazing actor
Helaena, seeing the flowers fall, but I'm certain she was seeing a vision of when Daenerys burning Kings Landing. The flowers looking like ash coming from the sky.
@@RhaenyraT2001Because he didn’t know which one it was. Aegon’s grief drove him to have his son’s murderers killed, by whatever means necessary. Was it stupid, thoughtless, and cruel? Yes, it was. But Joffrey would’ve done it for sport and no more… him and Aegon are nothing alike.
To my opinion Aegon II can not be compare to Joeffrey. Joeffrey was a sadist, a newbie sadist compared to ramsey who had more experience and opportunity, but still a sadist that could have become a bigger one if he lived longer. Aegon doesn't seem to be sadist to me (neither a psychopath or sociopath like Ramsey/Joffrey) but he is a young man, with a lack of love from his parents. He finally began to feel that loved thanks to his son and after his death, he seems to become obsess with vengence. Hard to blame him but yeah... I'm team Black, but I love to see the psychology and the depth of the characters in team Green. And let's not talk about generational trauma in green side because that's an all other topic lol !!!
Meh, evil twin is breaking his oath to assassinate based on hearsay to attempt to beat off a guilt trip placed on him by a moron who falls upward. Evil twin fits perfectly I'd say.
@@ccispahan7514no I disagree. He was a very honorable and passionate man ready to give his life for honor or to run away with rhaenyra. But when you've been heartbroken and gave away your honor as a kingsguard you slowly are reduced to a shell of a man
I also think Aemond's eye looks dope af as well Steven... Always look forward to your reactions to shows that I loved myself... That sword fight at the end of this episode was dope af too...Thanks for sharing!!!!
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They did that to change from the book she had two sons they asked her two pick which. Once she does it was the older brother not the prince. He looked at the boy and said look your mother want you dead. So they killed the young one instead which was the prince. A son for a son
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Lady Misaria, the White Worm, warned Ser Erryk. That's why he showed up in Rhaenyra's room in the nick of time
That makes sense. She reminded me a bit of Varis this episode.
@@madelinegarber7860 She reminded me of Varis since she wanted the end of the children fight club.
He also low key sensed his presence
@@decariusb71it's a twin thing
@@Rash23215is that true I mean I always hear about this in real life (never had a twin so I dont know) but is it really like that?
RIP Erryk. He was one of the few genuinely honorable people on the show.
I would say even Arryk was just as honourable. They were simply on opposite sides.
@@anoushkas8726I mean, if you just want to follow any rando who calls himself king, I’d say following Gaemon Palehair would be more honourable.
@@theperson8539 Yeah let's follow the ones who decapitate children
@@theperson8539 aegon is not just any random
@@willyrodriguez10 Neither is Gaemon, have some honour.
The fight between Arryk and Erryk is a great mirror to what's going on in the Targaryen house, it's a family literally tearing each other apart
lmao im so slow. how did i not pick up on that
That, and it’s a family being torn apart and the non-noble loyal citizens paying the price and suffering from incurable grief
@@damascus9876 Rhaenyra & Alicent are the only powerful people who seem to give a damn about the smallfolk. Knowing how many would die in her name is the reason Rhaenyra is so scared to start the real war.
Yeah. And in the end, they both died.
I feel like Aegon destroying the "Valyrian city" is symbolic for so many things. Could represent Viserys' legacy crumbling or even the start of the downfall of the Targaryens, the last nobility of Valyria.
To be fair the only thing going for the Targaryen’s was their dragons granted they are pretty big thing but without them, I mean the Lannisters are rich beyond comprehension, Starks are the oldest major house they extremely well respected and have ties everywhere, Baratheons had extremely good warriors and commanders, the Targaryens without dragons most of them are just petty people with massive egos. So when they lost them yk what I mean.
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he cared more about his lego than the rest of his kids
@queenxx1690 Yeah a lot of people gloss over how shitty a father a Viserys was to his second family.
This is a great observation, I wasn't thinking much of this scene than to show Aegon's rage but now that you mentioned it, I think there was some symbolism in there
- Abandoned His Post
- Gets Jaeharys Killed
- Screws His Kings Mom
- Has a BITTER resentment for a girl who didn't run away with him when she was HEIR TO THE THRONE
- Sent an innocent man to die due to the guilt of his failure
-Get Promoted to HAND OF THE KING
I hate this guy. Holy shit.
This is failing upwards I guess 🙄 I literally hate him.
I hate him, but he is Alicent’s sworn protector. The problem is he never assigned someone to bring the Queen’s protector or the heir’s protector. ESPECIALLY in a time of war.
Criston Cole: Mission failed successfully, I guess? 😅
He’s not the same character as the books. Show runners clearly don’t like the character
Wait till his bitch ass dies to just 3 arrows
Sir Criston "I project harder than a movie theater" Cole over here 🙄
Aegon needs to pass an infrastructure bill to fix the potholes in the streets.
Kingslanding needs an "Infrastructure Week" 🙂
@@mori1bundMake that infrastructure month, or even better, year
Given that westeros highly mirrors the UK, i can say with absolute confidence that road tax will not be spent on roads
I second the motion lol
They could spend 9 months a year fixing the roads yet not the ones actually needed to be fixed xD
The fact that Cole's plan almost fuckin work is crazy
Ikr, if rhaenyra hadnt freed myssaria in order for her to then spot Arryk as she was leaving, he probably would've gotten the job done. It's so funny cause I thought it was a ridiculous plan that never couldve worked in a million years.
To be honest, it’s a bit of sloppy writing. Everyone there knows he has a twin brother. So him walking up to the door, when the guards thought he was already inside, should have raised red flags. Even the guard he relieves outside her chambers gives him a slightly funny look. Rhaenyra should have had him shave or given him a face tattoo to prevent the possibility of his twin infiltrating.
Same energy as Cersei hoping a boar would kill a drunken Robert. At least her plan worked lmao
@@matias250 it's never implied that Cercei was hoping that a boar would kill Robert. But a hunt is a hunt, sometimes accidents happen, and a king full of strong wine can fall out of his horse and break his neck. I mean it was still dumb for a plan that her and her children's lifes were riding on, but not as dumb as hoping that Robert will meet a boar and his guard will allow Robert to be gutted by it.
it would have worked if he didn't give himself away as soon as he entered ranny's room. i mean unsheathing your sword as soon as you enter? that was very stupid.
tom glynn-carney, the actor for Aegon, has been so impressive to me, really a great performance
I’m so glad he has more to do this season. People were very much like “I think the actor playing Aegon is not good” because we spent so little time with adult Aegon. Tom is just knocking it out of the park - because even when he was whiney Aegon in the back of the carriage with his mother going to get crowned, you could see the pain and hurt and his feeling of unworthiness. Now you see his rage and grief as a father mourning. He’s so good.
@@LunarHexagon insane bc he was so great in 1x9, espacially in the coronation his acting solely made me team green
100%.
His delivery of “we know our enemy!” gives me freaking chills.
Idk if you’ve read A Court of Thorns and Roses, but I think he would make an amazing Eris.
@@rachelsbj1373 I have not read it yet, but you are the 4th person I’ve heard mention it, so it looks like I need to read it!
@@LunarHexagon also he was comedy gold in the first episode when hearing the petitions. "lets just give back his sheep, he came all that way. They wouldn't know" while Otto getting more and more frustrated. I'm sure it was more about Aegon wanting to be seen as caring than actually caring. But still that scene humanized him a bit and was a great contrast to what happened this episode
I also like how Cole was criticizing Arryk's cloak being dirty as a result of him performing his duty, whilst his was clean as a result of not doing so
I think Criston Cole is about to be the most hated character. Maybe like the same scale as Joffrey and Ramsey 😳
I already hate him more. Ramsey was a psycho and he knows is a psycho. Cole is a smoll bitter resentfull prick and still think about himself as a just and pure knight
Can’t wait to see Cole drown in his own blood.
Definitely. It’s a different type of hate 😡 but hate it is
Of course, he is no wonder there. The character we love to hate is here
Definitely not
Aegon’s actor is KILLING it this season! Loving his portrayal.
Aegon destroying Viserys’s lego set symbolises how Viserys was a shitty dad to Aegon, Helaena, Aemond and Daeron.
He wasn’t able to be a crappy parent to Daeron lol. He’s been gone like most of his life
He was also a crappy father to Rhaenyra, she's just a bit stronger than her half siblings
@@andreachilton6037 She simply had a loving mother throughout her childhood.
I thought it symbolized how their own hand will tear down the Targaryen dynasty, but that was a good one as well.
@@anhkriva5274 Alicent also had a mother. At the beginning of season one Daemon makes a jab at Otto saying he'd lost his wife recently when everyone was pressuring Viserys to remarry. So Alicent had a mother almost as long ad Rhaenyra did.
The last scene with Aegon crying and Alicent not going to him was so telling. Showing the difference between her and Rhaenyra once more.
It’s more so the similarity between her and Otto as parents, more than the difference between her and Rhaenyra. I think that was the message the show writers were trying to tell us, but you could be right. It’s all opinions anyway
it actually shows the generational trauma and abuse, first it was like Otto with Alicent, and now Alicent with Aegon.
Or maybe it’s the fact she doesn’t like aegon at all! Dude literally wacked off the side of the castle and SA’d multiple girls and had children fighting each other to death. I wouldn’t like my son either😬🙄
@@joshuarojas5543 she does like her son. I think that much is clear, because if she didn’t, then she would’ve plotted to get him unseated and Rhaenyra to sit the throne.
She has issues expressing her care towards them, as Otto did her. However, the difference between her and Otto is that she thinks everything will end up peaceful and doesn’t know the demands of war. Otto knew that, which is why he plotted to let Aegon ascend either way.
@@joshuarojas5543 Then why she made him king? 🙂
The creator of the show confirmed that they both got the same injuries so that we couldn’t tell them apart for a moment and but Erryk wins and then falls on his sword
I think Arryk won because in the books, he does.
And the "forgive me Your Grace", is because he didn't choose Rhaneyra and followed his brother.
But in the end, he DOES 😢
@@emmanx011 in the book one source says they died in each other’s arms and another says Erryk won and then died a few days later.
@@emmanx011 shut it kid it aint dat deeep arryk lost
@@REXAZOR Sorry lil bro, the adults are talking given that Erryk's leg was slashed and Arryk, who won, didn't have a sashed leg.
@@J1283-s1k How humiliating that ur observation skills are of a 3 yr old with 50 IQ. Sorry lil bro go rewatch and see both brothers slash each others legs...or is it sashed XD.
Erryk killing himself because he would not be able to live with the guilt of killing his own brother broke my heart, the saddest moment of this episode 💔
It was an interesting change from the book. I mean hard to say he could survive his wounds. But I like the change, showing the impact even at the start of the war.
I think you put it so perfectly when you said Criston Cole is "failing up"
For real. Everyone knows someone like that; can't do his actual job but keeps getting promoted because he sucks up to the bosses and helps them with their petty stuff.
@@Adamantium93 The Peter Principle in a sense. Now, the Crispin Principle to one who has no principle
I'm a mother of a son and when Alicent walked away from Aegon crying I got so mad I was shouting at the screen hold your son no matter what shit is going on around you if you see your son sobbing and grieving the death of their own son you hold your child
I screamed "hug your son your harpy!" I couldn't believe she just walked away!
@@kathykay975she walked away because she was never given comfort by Otto and she passes that onto her own children
Even in this episode Alicent wants to confess to Otto and he doesnt want to hear it.
Nah back in season 1 Alicent told Aegon he was no son of hers after he raped a girl.
You are me and I am you because I was so upset that she just stood there awkwardly for a moment then turned and all but ran away from her broken child!!! Both Aegon and Helaena needed their mother’s comfort and she turned to her damn walking d*ldo instead for her OWN comfort like…her and Crispy Dick Cole deserve each other. They disgust me!
@kathykay975 No. He was in pain. It was the perfect time to comfort him. *That* would indeed have cooled down his anger. Or at least tempered his rash behavior. She might have been able to gently reason with him not to fire Otto. Instead, she abandoned him. And he knew that she did because he knows she walked into that room, and then left him alone. Again! That only reinforces his belief that no one loves him, making him even more bitter, angry, and vengeful.
Interesting that the person Aemond seeks comfort from is an older woman, older than his mom in fact. In addition to the sex, she provides him the kind of nurturing maternal love that he received little of when growing up. That scene was the most vulnerable I've ever seen Aemond. He's able to let his guard down with this woman. I'm sure she's the only one he's told that he has some regrets about killing Lucerys. It's really good that he has someone like that.
I noticed that too... His own mother wasn't nurturing. You can see the sadness in his eyes, not just for Luc but for himself as well... He knew full well why he sought comfort from her instead of his family
Alicent did poorly raising her children which is why they all have personal issues while Rhaenyra’s “bastards” seem like decent boys.
Alicent is a hypocrite fraud through and through.
Honestly one of my favorite scenes so far, it's exactly what I wanted from Aemond as a character.
She's also the woman in s1 who was implied to have sa'd him when he was a child. These people CANNOT catch a break.
@@petko6926 wait what ??😳 when was this mention ?
Aegon the whole time did not get a single cut while sitting on the throne even when he was drunk af. While Viserys got cut many times.
To be fair Aegon sat on it woth clothes on covering his body. Viserys had the illness before but only got nicked on his hand, the only exposed part.
@@Ashbrash1998Viserys had cuts all over his back. The very first scene of Viserys we see him being treated on a wound on the back.
The Throne rejected Viserys. He was a good man but bad king.
Aegon is a troubled young man which had no proper education to be king but he has already showed kindness to the common people.
Because Aegon is the one true king of Westeros. The throne doesn’t spurn him like it did his father and sister.
@@TraditionalCrusader do you know what happens in the Dance?
@@Ashbrash1998Viserys was cut all over his back as well
Duty was the death of love in the case of Arryk and Erryk.
I kept thinking the carriage carrying Jahhaerys was so wobbly his head was going to tear off!!!😱😱😱😱😱😱😥😢
yikes, that would have been awful
6:58 "Any man who says "I am the king" is no true king."
- Tywin Lannister 🦁
Dude u quoting Tywin Lannister... why just why 🤣🤣
Fack tywin, even Brandon said that😊
That line says more about Tywin's understanding of power than it does any Kings or Queens who might say it.
When Rhaenyra says "I'm the queen" like every episode , team black cult clap like simple minded seals 🤡
Aegon says " I'm the King " once , here comes some team black clown quoting Tywin 😂😂😂 you can't make this 💩 up
Rhaenyras says a simalar thing in S1 with Otto and countless other times
The taming down of Mysaria's accent has made her scenes so much more tolerable 😅
I noticed too! 😂
Soon as I heard her speak in ep1 I was like “oh yeah, they heard the fandom hating on her accent for sure” lol
I kinda found her accent to be quite interesting. Somehow gave her character even more of like a mystery in a way if I’m making any sense 😅
I agree I liked her accent
However I like how she sounds now too. She seems more down to earth
100%.
Last season i hated her scenes, now i want to see her more.
Crispy 'Fuckboy' Cole was wild during this episode. 😂
Aegon called him out for not standing a post when his son was murdered... Wait til he finds out the real reason why (hopefully)... Cole had some nerve then blaming someone else for his royal eff up. He brings shame upon himself and doesn't deserve his white cloak. I can't stand him continually talking crap about Rhaenyra while doing what he's doing... He's right up there with Joffrey and Ramsey, as far as despicable characters go!
Season 1 Cole: He's not a bad guy, I feel for him
Season 2 Cole: I can't stand this mfer!
Ser Wendigoon Strikes Again
That acting from Emma and Matt.. like being in the threatre.
So good. That scene was excellent
Right? I even said to myself, this is some Shakespearean shit. Excellent writing and delivery.
@@asmallsandstorm4686 they both come from theatre backgrounds, definitely shows.
The writers of this episode deserve an award. The dialogues are just deep and immersive as if you're actually in the same room where the characters are.
so damn good!!
Agree 💯 prof Steven 😊 just got my black belt too 😁
when you said, "anyone who said 'i am the king'" i immediately replied, "is no true king" lmaoo
edit: some people should really learn to grasp the context because i am referring to a pavlov response to tywin lannister’s quote lol i ain’t give no two fucks about what team u are
This is 🧢 especially a lot of TV show/anime etc.....
@@pitoseavy4523 and? tywin lannister still said that
@@alienazed never said he didn't but I watched multiple shows where said king/queen/prince etc... flex they crown for any reasons they wanted
@@pitoseavy4523 their*. and my comment focuses on what is being said and who says it in the previous franchise. it’s all about GOT and HOTD fans/watchers reminiscing similar scenes or moment
Me too.
Gosh I have had it with Otto. Yes, he’s correct that Aegon’s actions were idiotic, but was he not the one to put him on the throne. Aegon didn’t want this and he’s paid for it with his son, and then here comes Otto running salt into the wound. Aegon and Criston are pinging their one brain cell off each other, but this is literally all bc of Otto.
Because he didn't think that Aegon would be so "stupid" (according to his own POV) that he let himself think that Viserys was even better. Also putting Aegon on the throne was definitely a choice for him to assert his family on the throne (and I don't mean the Targaryen but the "Hightower side" of the family in a way)
@@yacine8552 should have trained him better. Otto return when Aegon was 15, he had time to teach him
That was not stupid act. The rat catchers are all loyal to daemon.
Daemon's friends= Aegon's enemies
Otto literally did the same with nobles in episode 9 - Lord Caswell was hanging in the castle for an attempt to leave KL. A death of a noble is far worse for the reputation
Yess exactly and all people blame all on Aegon when it is Otto who is responsible
And can I say it? I love Corlys and Rhaenys relationship so much ♥️
They actually love each other! So refreshing to see in a time when all marriages were arranged and they probably didnt like each other.
That Daemon and Rhaenyra scene was so damn good. That music when the look on Daemons face changed and when he took off on Caraxes gave me chills too
18:42 I fully agree. I told my wife while watching that this dialogue sounded Shakespearean.
The acting in this show is phenomenal. Everyone is on their game.
Daemon did give an order to Blood and Cheese. We saw saw him tell them to take out Aemond, but we also saw Cheese ask him what they should do if they can't find Aemond, and then the scene cut away without showing Daemon's answer. However, it's pretty obvious he did give them an answer. When Cheese had the knife against Helaena's throat, Blood told him their orders were "a son for a son". We didn't see Daemon tell them "a son for a son", so it stands to reason that Daemon gave that instruction in response to what they should do if they could not find Aemond
Daemon is my least favorite character in the story. His refusal to take accountability in this episode seals it.
Another thing, it’s funny to see how they’re reacting to the babies death but not ONE of them stopped & thought to themselves “wow is this what rhaenyra went through?????? Is this the same pain she felt??? Now i finally understand what pain we’ve inflicted.”
Exactly!!!!!! Like they’re so shocked she could do something so cruel… like did they forget what they did to her! And Aegon and Otto definitely suggested murdering her and her family in the episode 1 so it’s hilarious they think they’re somehow the victims and that they deserve revenge
I mean it’s not really what she went through. Her son was old enough to die in combat by medieval terms, this was a child.
Jaehaerys was a defenseless child, Lucerys not
@@jonblackfyre are you kidding?? Luke was 14 and he had promised his mother he wouldn’t fight because he was only there as a messenger and then he got chased down by a massive ass war dragon and eaten so he was defenseless because he had no way to fight Vhagar and he had sworn not to fight so he couldn’t fight Aemond. A 14 year old is a child!
@@Zarab923 both of them were kids, but this comparison don't made any fucking sense. Jaehaerys was ON HIS BED, DEFENSELESS. He don't even have a dragon, NOT EVEN A TRAINING
I really liked Otto in this episode, probably for the first time ever. And I'm glad that we were shown his wise side. He was the right Hand of two kings who managed to maintain peace and rule wisely. And this was largely thanks to Otto. But in the end, his time passed, and he took on his soul a sin for which the royal family will pay on both sides.
And of course, thank that they FINALLY mentioned Daeron, who should have appeared in season 1, so as not to shock the audience now, but we have what we have...
P.s. Aegon played by Tom Glynn-Carney turned out great. There is simply no more controversial character in the series. He literally drives you crazy, goes from hate to love and in circles.
I completely agree! I hated Otto from the beginning but he was so relatable this episode and finally so wise.
His own doing. If he was loyal he would be a hand of the Queen now and the realm would thrive. He wanted his blood on the throne and his line is dripping idiots
otto feels the most like a GOT character
@@nymeriagloves3957 Yes!
Rhys Ifans is an ace actor!
Daemon for his many faults does love Rhaenyra. He just isn't a team player. You want him as an alley but you should expect him to follow his own path. He's a double edge sword that will do just as much damage to his side as his opponent's if one is not careful.
"Ima use that new hand of the king" hahaha
I laughed so hard at that, that was a good one 😂
I love the story of the Cargyll twins. They were so loyal to their word and the crown that they turned on the person they were the closest to in the whole world. It is so sad that Criston Cole to deal with his own guilt killed two men who really knew what honor was.
8 and 10 means 18! The twins joined the kings guard at 18
So far, Aegon has been one of the most interesting characters on the show. I don't think he will be like Joffrey or the mad king. He seems to have a bit more nuance to him. Not saying he is a good guy, just he is interesting to watch. The actor also has some really insightful things to say about him in the after the episode bits & interviews.
Twin fight was heart breaking for sure - and executed amazingly - this show is top tier!
This is what a civil war is.
Friends fighting friends, and brothers fighting brothers.
They're doing a good job of depicting both sides as evil and showing that the only thing that comes of a conflict like this is civil war and suffering. Big fan of the show thus far.
yes, they are doing that very well
@@NikkiStevenReact And I really enjoy that you guys are also picking up on it and not just blindly sticking with one side (even if one side definitely is more morally sound than the other). Keep up the great work!
I don't know why everyone expects Blood to have loyalty to Daemon. It was a job and Daemon wasnt going to do anything for him lol
Nikki’s “whoaaaa slow down.” To Steven had me dying 😂
Otto was right at the start of the episode. It's a tragedy, but nothing will bring the child's life back. If the death can be used to stop a full out civil war, this theater can can now save countless lives, including all the other kids on both sides.
It's painful, but it's the right choice.
At the end he didn't "let her off". His daughter wanted to talk to him, share her actions, and probably wanting his comfort. He didn't "let her off easy", he pushed her away. She never had a loving parent, so she doesn't know how to be one to her kids. Aemond's looking for motherly love in a courtesan is another consequence of that family's broken relationship with each other.
Absolutely. It's brutal, but an heir can be replaced (something that real medieval dynasties were fully aware of). A reputation, once lost, can rarely be recovered.
There was also the scene after Aemond got his eye cut, where Aemond put his head on Alicent, just wanting some comfort from his mom. But all he heard was “Bring me Luke’s eye”, so he recalled to that at Storm’s End, to “take it as a gift to my mother”. And now the scene in the brothel. He just wanted his mother to love him, and I think it shows the similarity between Otto and Alicent.
I know this sounds pathetic, but when you find some reactor pairs like yourselves that are lovely nice people and you get to watch your favourite show with them it's just a lovely way to wind down the evening on a work night. I grab a glass or red and go watch House of the Dragon with Nikki & Steven. It's so relaxing. You guys are such a beautiful couple. I'll be subscribed for years to come.
Daemon was leaving to raise a army for her at harrenhal. If you replay the conversation between Raenara and him after she confront him about his actions he says, I'm the one going to harrenhal to raise you a army, or something along those lines.
Just wanted to comment that I absolutely love your guys genuine humour and commentary :) been watching a ton of your movie reactions lately and now this, you both seem like great people
Book lore (NO future spoilers - just the fight between the twins):
Arryk arrived on the island disguised as a fisherman, changed to his Kingsguard armor and white cloak, and easily entered the castle. However, as Arryk was making his way to the royal apartments, he coincidentally encountered Erryk, who immediately understood why his twin was there.
Accounts of the fight that followed greatly differ.
Septon Eustace's account simply states that the Cargyll twins slew each other.
According to singers, the brothers professed their love for each other as they drew their swords.
Per Grand Maester Munkun's The Dance of the Dragons, A True Telling, Erryk and Arryk battled for most of an hour. The noise of the fight woke half of Rhaenyra's court, but they could only watch, as none could tell which twin was which. In the end, Arryk and Erryk mortally wounded each other, and died in each other's arms, weeping.
And finally, per The Testimony of Mushroom, the fight lasted only moments, and the brothers did not declare their love, but rather called each other traitor. Erryk struck the first mortal blow, nearly cutting off Arryk's arm at the shoulder. As Arryk collapsed, he grabbed Erryk's cloak and pulled him close to stab him in the belly with a dagger. Arryk was dead before anyone found them, but Erryk took four days to die from his gut wound, screaming in pain and cursing his brother the whole time.
I love how the show encapsulated a piece from nearly all "eyewitness" accounts of the fight.
This episode was so good!! The dialogue/lines these characters gave back and forth to each other was captivating. I was completely invested
2:00 some say she saw his death but was in denial and as she was in denial, she was sewing a shroud for her own son.
Did they not use Great to describe offspring back then? Otto is the Father of Alicent, Aegon is Alicent's son, which makes Jaeharys Otto's Great Grandson right?
Otto and his family aren't even the main line of the Hightowers. The lord of House Hightower is Otto's brother, seen last season, and his children will carry on the bloodline. And Oldtown, where they rule, was seen in Game of Thrones, and it is still standing.
Also, Prince Daeron gets his first mention in the show! This is Alicient's fourth child, which was hinted at in the previous opening (which showed the family tree), but has so far gone unmentioned. He's in Oldtown with the Hightowers. Looking forward to when we finally get to see him on the screen.
After rewatching the 1st season I have a certain respect for Otto. He’s literally just like Tywin Lannister both characters are the most logical thinkers in their position. Some of their decisions seem messed up but if you take emotions out of it they make the most sound decisions in their situations. The thing is when you sit in such a high position and every decision you make affects thousands of people you have to think about what makes the most sense instead of making decisions based on how you feel. Otto using his grandsons death as a political pawn to sway the emotions of the masses is no different than how emmet tills death was used to bolster the civil rights movement.
When Aegon told Otto to give the badge to Criston.. for a moment I thought Otto was going to die in that room.
It would have been funny if once Otto was out of the room, he swiftly put an emergency hand of the king badge on and breathes a sigh of relief for having one on.
idk if this will be read (i know Nikki read every single comment for GoT, but you never know xd), but i gotta say that you two are so adorable together
I'm thinking Larys might have Cole killed eventually. First Cole took his woman (and her feet) and now Cole gets hand of the king instead of Larys. I think Larys will spill the secrets and get Cole killed. I hope so anyways
I have not read the books at all, but it's pretty obvious Cole's downfall will be from within
Did you guys notice that Alicent suddenly has a son we never heard of before?
When Otto says he's going to old town, he says: you have another son there, Daeron might listen to me.
I thought you were going to go: who's Daeron? 😅
I was wondering if they would include him this season. In the books he is the youngest of Viserys and Alicent's kids.
And roughly the same age as his eldest nephew, Jace. I recall Viserys decreed that the two would share the same wet nurse. In hopes that being "milk brothers" (yes, that is a thing) would forge a bond between them. But it did not.
@@MariaHossain Not saying Daeron is not the most courteous and humble of Alicent and Viserys' children. But he still held enmity towards his nephews.
That scene between Rhaenyra and Daemon was spectacular writing and acting. It felt genuine. They are such amazing actors. Criston Cole seems to be the Littlefinger of this show so far.
Anyone else fine it really interesting that Alicent and Cole have their elicit affair in Rhaenyra's old room on her bed, the same bed Cole did the deed with Rhaenyra? Like don't these two have any shame? All this talk about Rhaenyra being a C U Next Tuesday and hating her for seducing him like a cruel spider or whatever like it was some big offense to his honour but he keeps going back to that same room and bed to do the same thing but with Alicent. And I don't even have words for whatever Alicent is doing. She's so nasty.
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The thinking here is that he has already sullen his cloak, and it was because of rhaenyra. Now that it's already dirty, might as well keep going
Also daeron mentioned yayyyy! So excited for him to show up
Team green actors are knocking it out of the part this season so far. Every actor is fantastic, but the green actors/characters are so different from each other and so good individually and together that it makes me really engaged with them
At first I was worried that the writers completey excluded Daeron from the show.. They finally mentioned my boy! When he shows up and he will, I hope they will portray him right - like in the books. For me he is not like Aegon or Aemond. He was a fairly kind, clever, and humble guy. Definitely the best among Alicen't sons. And honestly? The best among all of Viserys' kids (barring Helaena who we all love). Too bad, he was Alicent's third son. If Daeron was her eldest son then that throne would have been his. Or at the very least, Rhaenyra would have a tough time trying to defeat him. Because he's at least someone you can support for a reason beyond his so-called "birthright".
(Spoiler for non book readers)
The toughest part with Daeron is that he is a kid - some of the worst atrocities occur directly under his watch after Tumbleton, he isn't directly committing them like Aemond burning the riverlands or Aegon's litany of dark and violent deeds, but because he is 'a Targaryen alone in the world', and a kid besides, he's unable to do anything about it. Literally just if Ormond had lived, if Aemond had not been so overly single minded on vengeance against Daemon, if Daeron hadn't burned hundreds of injured people in a Sept at Bitterbridge (😬 I can believe he set the whole town on fire by accident the way it is described, especially considering how disgusted he is later), if Daeron's councilors had not been afraid of giving up potential dragon power and imprisoned/killed the betrayers sooner, if the men around him weren't so selfishly power hungry, things could have worked out differently. It's also possible history speaks better of him because he dies. Nonthelsss I can't wait till they give us Daeron the Daring alongside Tessarion!
This episode was an emotional roller-coaster. From watching Aegon and poor Haleana griefing over their baby boy 😢. The Daemon and Rhaenyra "fall-out". But I know Daemon will undo his mistake in the next episode. Aemond cheeks supremacy!!!The Cargyll twins duell was so emotional I can't even 😭 Ser Criston probably by now the most disliked character! 🤣 Tom Glynn Carney, Emma D'Arcy and Rhys Ifans put a god-tier performance in this episode! peak acting.
Otto: refuses to hear his daughters grief stricken admissions
Alicent: refuses to console her grieving and tattered son
Aegon: refuses to even stop to say a kind word to his sister-wife
😭 generational trauma and sins of the parent in real time, otto so caught up in using his daughter as a tool that there was never any real father-daughter bond there, no emotional connection, and that has trickled down into how alicent is as a parent, and how aegon is as a person
I took his comment to mean he didn't need her confession. He already knows.
Tom and Phia confirmed that the look they exchanged on the stairs was a silent understanding.
In the first episode, after Heleana pointed to her boy, she had complete terror in her face and said "NO" and then proceeded to get her daughter. Now, since they say Heleana is a dreamer and can see the future, in that moment, she realizes it is really happening and that she is not in a dream.
Daemon’s dragon Caraxes is deformed, hence the neck being long. The most beautiful to me honestly
Caraxes is Daemon’s dragon. Vermithor’s a rogue dragon
@@dragonstouch1042 didn’t even realize I said Vermithor. That’s what I get for doing this at 6am 🤣
King's landing and the Palace are going to be overrun with rats 😂 I hope the writers decide to show this as the consequence of Aegon killing all the rat catchers. Others will be terrified of taking up the work for sure
Aegon want open war while Otto does skims and Aegon thinks he does nothing
That scene between Rhaenyra and Daemon was so fucking awesome. Matt Smith and Emma are both so good and have fantastic chemistry. I’ve had a crush on Matt Smith since he was The Doctor and this role just cemented it. So good.
They’re both sweethearts, that’s for sure. Did you hear Matt say that the director gave them total freedom how to play it, how to block it. Great actors are such a blessing
The owners are letting their mad dogs run free and not taking no accountability. Rhyneara knows Daemon is reckless. She stood in front of the counsel and said "I want Aemond." Alicent is allowing Larys to do as he pleases. Otto has lost control of Aegon. Aegon has no idea Cole is unhinged. They are all reaping what they sowed.
Yes. She wanted only Aemond.
@@sproductionsinc yes, she is also a queen first, she shouldn't just throw this without knowing how her husband would react, what he wishes for
literally the mirror of "a queen makes a wish" scene from s1
Daemon should know his wife by now, he should know she wanted Aemond only and that she would not want a little child murdered. He didn't care
Yes, she said that she wants Aemond. That doesn't mean that she sent Daemon to King's Landing. In fact, you can clearly see that when the Blacks get the news, noone even looks at Daemon. Which means nobody authorized him going to King's Landing to kill anybody. He did that on his own accord.
@@kimberlyjeanne9456 And she knew damn well that he would do whatever he wanted. Its all on her.
Lets not forget the mention of ‘Daeron’ by Hightower who is currently training as a Squire in Old Town. Daeron is growing & will be a badass also. Did someone say ‘The Battle of Honeywine’? This show has soo much more to go, I can easily see 4 or 5 seasons.
Didn't you see Daemon look at Rhaenerya before he left? Translated properly that look means "I am off to join the Nights Watch". I don't understand how people are not getting this.
When those petals were falling, Helaena saw ashes - like Dany in the vision in the throne room - the snow was really ashes. foreshadowing for war.
Really thought we were going to get left with a "but do we know for sure which twin survived?" question.......nope. RIP A&E
The twins fight was one of the most gut wrenching moments for me in the book and although a little different it's still equally as sucky in live action. The book hits a little harder though with them both telling each other they love one another before going ahead and both doing their duty and fighting each other now they have come face to face on opposing sides.
I litterally saw Matt Smith a couple days ago in Worthing on the seafront and he seemed so chill and nice yet his character in this is so calculated and confusing. Honestly an amazing actor
There was no evil and good twin lol they both were forced to do what they were told
Helaena, seeing the flowers fall, but I'm certain she was seeing a vision of when Daenerys burning Kings Landing. The flowers looking like ash coming from the sky.
Aegon is definitely not like joffrey!!
Эйгон хороший человек, его просто всё время портили родители. Даже сейчас МАТЬ вместо того, чтобы утешить рыдающего сына идёт скакать на Коле
Yeah? Why did he then kill all the ratcatchers when he knew there was only one involved?
@@RhaenyraT2001 joffrey was just evil he was killing animals for fun, Aegon loves animals and he cares for his dragon and always feeding him 😉
The rat catchers are all loyal to daemon
Daemon's friends = Aegon's enemies
He wiped out his enemies@@RhaenyraT2001
@@RhaenyraT2001Because he didn’t know which one it was. Aegon’s grief drove him to have his son’s murderers killed, by whatever means necessary. Was it stupid, thoughtless, and cruel? Yes, it was. But Joffrey would’ve done it for sport and no more… him and Aegon are nothing alike.
To my opinion Aegon II can not be compare to Joeffrey. Joeffrey was a sadist, a newbie sadist compared to ramsey who had more experience and opportunity, but still a sadist that could have become a bigger one if he lived longer. Aegon doesn't seem to be sadist to me (neither a psychopath or sociopath like Ramsey/Joffrey) but he is a young man, with a lack of love from his parents. He finally began to feel that loved thanks to his son and after his death, he seems to become obsess with vengence. Hard to blame him but yeah... I'm team Black, but I love to see the psychology and the depth of the characters in team Green. And let's not talk about generational trauma in green side because that's an all other topic lol !!!
Fr.. Joffrey was worst
Stop comparing Aegon to Joffrey
Ottos character is just brilliant.
Also the scene between Daemon and Rhaenyra was so good. Top acting.
'Any man who must say, 'I am the King', is no true King' -Tywin Lannister
Isn’t the Queen/Sister Athelflaed’s daughter from The Last Kingdom season 5? Aelfwynn
Yes.
So happy that when the cart got stuck, the body stayed intact. What if, off script between book and show. Alicent is found with child.
“the evil twin’s gonna die”, and the evil twin was there to avenge a little child’s death. this show is not a heroes vs. villains story.
100%
Once people start throwing around the term evil, I know they don't understand the show. That evil twin was literally blackmailed into doing it
Meh, evil twin is breaking his oath to assassinate based on hearsay to attempt to beat off a guilt trip placed on him by a moron who falls upward.
Evil twin fits perfectly I'd say.
Honestly Aegon deserves this pain of seeing his child die , so he knows how Rhaenyra felt when she lost her child and he was all happy and celebrating
@@mypersonal8283 “aegon deserves” the thing is that jaehaerys didn’t deserve.
I discovered you guys in a reactions compilation video on RUclips, you guys have such insightful opinions and reactions, yall are my favorite duo!
Let's go early squad!!
Let’s go!!!
The performances were awesome in this episode, especially Tom Glynn-Carney (Aegon)!
Criston is becoming a psychopath
He’s always been one, it is just starting to show.
@@ccispahan7514no I disagree. He was a very honorable and passionate man ready to give his life for honor or to run away with rhaenyra. But when you've been heartbroken and gave away your honor as a kingsguard you slowly are reduced to a shell of a man
Ser Criston, the true villain of em all 😭
Daemon's dragon always makes me think of Chinese style dragons. Very cool looking.
Did anyone noticed the closeup during the funeral procession Alicent tried to hold Heleana’s hand and she put her hand away.
there are a lot of jerks online. Please don't feel like you need to defend your own reactions. Nothing is going to satisfy those kinds of people.
As much as I dislike Otto's scheming, I really like his devotion, his wisdom, his foresight. He is dangerous, and I like him in that sense.
I also think Aemond's eye looks dope af as well Steven... Always look forward to your reactions to shows that I loved myself... That sword fight at the end of this episode was dope af too...Thanks for sharing!!!!
How Erryk knew his brother was there: he smelled him. That's my interpretation anyway. These folks bathed like once a month if they were lucky.