They literally went from constructive criticism to insulating each other's appearance to insulting each other's life. 2 adults btw, arguing like secondary school students. Both are just trying to gain attention and fame because they literally have nothing else better to do
Actually, I just made a very general statement on my Facebook status update. A general statement that had absolutely zero reference to Serene Ho. But she's so onion-skinned and immediately felt alluded to so she went berserk. In her case, everything is directed towards me. When I made that statement about anyone who has a face like that should be nicer, no one was named, no specific references were made. It was a very general statement. But she immediately felt alluded to, and that's her problem. Sneaky Sushi's problem is that he himself DID NOT REALIZE that my FB statement was a general one which did not specifically name or reference anyone.
@@yong-haotan6576 --- Nope, that's not what happened. To begin with, I didn't even attack Serene Ho. I just simply educated her on the costs that foreigners have to pay for school and hospital and rent which most Singapore citizens won't have to pay due to gov't subsidies. She went berserk after that and kept attacking me and even went to lengths to misrepresent me as being "anti-Singaporean." When I made a very general statement that didn't name her and had absolutely no references to her, she felt alluded to it and went haywire. It's wrong to even put that on me when the statement I made was a general RULE OF THUMB with zero references made to anyone.
@@OrionPD Ong my friend is a foreigner and we have been taught in school that most sg citizens school fees are heavily subsidised. As well as In poly and university
I mean... paying international student fee rates at a local school is something really costly. Earning 8-9k while having 6 kids and paying rent/mortgage can mean being financially tight. But how this whole saga unfolds is great entertainment for us plebs during exam weeks *intensified idiots*
Yep i was the foreign kid attending local school. People thought my family's rich but my parents had to ask for government assistance to lower my school fees.
That purely your assumption. I do agree its not easy but her dad already made the point he earns enough to have his family living relatively comfortable and still have enough for saving. So there is no need to stubbornly assume his family are financially tight, when the dad is doing a good job and has good earning power.
@@Missy_Ai that is also purely your assumption. Of course the Dad will say such things, most Dads do so that their family don’t have to share the burden of stress. The problem with you as with most, is that you draw the line that’s people are either rich or poor, but the majority are in between. And a foreign family living in between is many times worse than a local family.
@@damienlee927 I didn’t deny there will be some sort of stresses in life, everybody does. I am not saying her family is rich, but I don’t believe her when she said her family is living in proverty that’s why CK bag to her is a luxury. To me, able to nap in the afternoon is a luxury, and I don’t need to in proverty to prove my point.
@@damienlee927 By the way, I don’t agree foreign family living in between is many times worse than a local family. I have seen many having better living standards here, so it’s more about earning power and financial prudence.
Although both are too agitated… but I think Serene went too far but digging into orions company and call them, also called ica to deport him… sighs, too free Liao…
Yes, you're totally right about that. In reality, I wasn't really that agitated. I was quite amused at how Serene was so riled up by my having corrected her wrong notions (when I showed a detailed probable expense breakdown of how much Zoe's family very likely has to pay, them being foreigners with the dad on EP and everyone else on DP). But she was indeed exploding to the point of calling the company I just recently left in order to join a new one (I just haven't updated my LinkedIn yet, and now I won't, because of weirdos like her). She and one of her partners-in-crime, Durian Tabloid, actually DOXXED ME several times!
@OrionPD did ica really contact you? Its extremely important for foreigners to retain a clean record to stay in singapore and losing it to some internet beef is really unfair. Scummy move on her part.
@@laylaminrir -- Hi. ICA didn't contact me at all. Actually, Serene Ho's reports against me were totally ignored by ICA. Quite a number of sympathetic Singaporeans contacted me telling me that they lodged police reports against Serene Ho and several of her friends, and told me the process on how to do the same. When I went over to a police station to lodge a report against these trouble makers, they told me that several other people had indeed lodged reports against Serene Ho and several of her minions. I asked if there were any existing reports against me within the SPF and ICA lodged by Serene Ho and her minions, and the investigating officer said there were absolutely none. In short, if Serene and her friends tried making all sorts of false reports against me, they were ignored/dismissed as being baseless. One thing to note is that Serene Ho and her friends only made their fake complaints against me to the ICA through the online portal. When Serene boasted that she had "reported" me, she posted a screenshot of the AUTOMATED RESPONSE template sent by the ICA online portal. Clearly, her report was dismissed/ignored because there was no basis for her complaints. The complaints that many of us made against Serene Ho to the police on the other hand, had piled up. However, these are considered "non-arrestable offenses" which require lodging civil complaints (based on the existing SPF police report) at the Magistrate Court. I haven't found the time to lodge this at the Magistrate Court yet. But what's important is that Serene Ho (as well as several of her evil minions) does have quite a record of complaints piling up against her at the SPF. :) In reality, the SG Government won't also just summarily blacken a foreigner's record just because a citizen made several false claims. They'll make sure to do some investigations first. I mean, what if a vicious "gangster"-type local SG citizen sought to harm a foreigner, and the foreigner merely defended himself? It wouldn't be fair if the foreigner's record was destroyed simply because he defended himself against the local's unfair attack.
I swear a lot of Singaporeans are just salty that free things happen to others that's why they need to pwn others to feel good about themselves. Jealousy truly is disgusting.
Indeed... those jealous individuals are doing for the sheer pleasure of destroying peoples lives... not to take what they have already...basically is not only some singaporeans who are salty but every world there will be some individual who acts that way
Lol auntie gave me perspective about her experience/ thoughts on foreign workers in Singapore, saying that "Singaporeans don't even want to take this job in their own country, they shouldn't be complaining about foreign workers taking their jobs". The auntie shared that these foreigners are the same as Singaporeans. They don't wanna take the jobs in their own countries, and came to Singapore to work. So it isn't fair for them to make that statement. Bottomline: Everyone, any where, all wanna make MORE money.
to be fair to orion (for at least his initial video response) i think it likely comes from a place of hurt since filipinos in general are looked upon with disdain and subject to xenophobic sentiments by singapore citizens from the major local ethnic groups even if they are fully integrated and practically indistinguishable from "true blue" locals. i think it was fair for him to come up with his own commentary/perspective as a PSA to respond to serene who is genuinely insane, just the continued engagement was unnecessary because again, she is legitimately insane lol. it isn't so much as being triggered as perhaps just being sick and tired of people assuming being an expat, especially from an asian country isn't as easy as online discourse makes it out to be.
@@TheLastResort1987 well the comment about the world of hurt wasn't about attacking people though, it was about orion's commentary about the cost of living for non citizens, and why zoe gabriel's dad may not have been wealthy even with a take home pay close to SGD$10K, which then drew the responses that followed from serene. i also don't think the victim complex applies to orion. I agree that his responses(attacks) to serene were very immature and degrades his standing but it was by and large in response to serene, and not just because he believes himself to be a victim. I have no horse in this race, i just thought sushi's initial representation of the situation was a bit iffy, dismissing his response toe the zoe gabriel situation as simply getting triggered when there are undercurrents fuelling why he thought it necessary. Ultimately i have too much free time on my hands ah but i would also like if sushii's discussion was a bit more nuanced
Didnt know there is such a beef. But definitely with seren on this one. When the story first hit, it was really heartwarming. The underdog got her day. And then i start to see her previous posts actually has her in branded goods. So it looked sus af….probably a marketing gimmick.
@@laylaminrir That's the point. Haters gonna hate. It was a feel-good story until she was able to use the opportunity given to her by being "poor". People do not want to see people succeed thus they hate on her.
Sushii : I am just here for the entertainment man and it is just so funny... seeing these 2 people getting worked up talking about Zoe Me : This is the way.
At this point, Dumdum & Ho should be marrying to each other, they seem to be great at profiling. Pretty sure they will successfully run a private detective "Dum Ho" company together lmao
Indeed. It's actually unfair of Sneaky Sushi to not understand why I taunted those "S.H." types who couldn't get me fired because I had already left the company they were calling to try to sabotage me plus they tried deporting me (I wasn't in Singapore at the time). ...plus, all this happened because I simply did a good deed: defending someone who was being unfairly misrepresented. Plus I didn't even attack those people who misrepresented Zoe. I merely educated them on the costs that foreigners are charged for hospital and school fees which are much higher than what local citizens are asked to pay.
@@OrionPD Don't be an idiot lah..... You already went overboard by using LKY and PAP for your little children quarrels. CMI. You're also very emotionally unstable in that 26 mins rant. smh. Get a grip.
@OrionPD when you deliberately got one of Serene's friends banned from Facebook who is a) undergoing treatment for cancer and b) is innocent of any charges that you made against her, you have forfeited any claim to goodness, and have shown yourself to be a spitefully hateful evil person. Given that you are actively promoting your political movement from Singapore, and are allowing the PRC to megalomaniacally attack your own country (Scarborough Shoal, as one example), while attacking a completely correct person like Serene Ho in such a cowardly manner, it is clear, Orion Perez Dumdum, that you are not acting in the best interests of your country, just in the interest of your misogynistic hateful evil ego.
In real life you walk by a sidewalk, saw a shit and walk by it. On the internet you walk down the sidewalk and saw a shit then starts rolling in it then say who did this to me. - Asmon
Wow I'm surprise you did not make a dig on the framed LKY photo strategically placed behind Orion in his video. Is this how he got ICA to side with him?
nobody would want to migrate to another country to get suffer from financial burden. If you are unable to afford living in Singapore, a very simple thing to do is just to go back to your own country for good, think again
FYI, the surname is pronounced as "doom-doom" and actually means "to remember" in the Visayan languages of the Visayan archipelago in the Central Philippines.
Actually, I am so surprised by these 2 common responses by people to her. Shouldn't it be that don't focus so much on material goods and instead simply be happy? I know it sounds corny, but why the hyper interest in branded goods?
The way i see it, if these 2 quarreling has become this viral, means the real shit is happening somewhere, and we are all being distracted by the DumDum Serena Ho saga
In the end, why care about what others think. Their opinions don't matter. This serene make herself look really stupid honestly. Sadly, this is how most people in Singapore act, really xiaoxuey leh
Imo, Serene did go overboard on this one. She went full karen and contacted the ICA and tried to get Orion fired from his job, all over some petty internet beef. Orion could have handled this infinitely better, but he has every right to be as upset as he is.
@@Jinkypigs stating facts is stating facts. if he had left it at that, sure. but going so far as to "defend" a kid over the internet and continuing to "debate" with the haters, for her sake and taking things personal is textbook simping
@@FallenAngelz21 --- I think you totally miss the point. I stated the facts and left it at that. But guess what... Because I had simply devasted her wrong arguments about Zoe, the main hater went berserk and started misrepresenting me as being "anti-Singaporean" and had her minions doxx me at numerous anti-foreigner FB groups (including anti-CECA groups), to try to get random people to attack me. Worse, she and her minions even called my old company (I already left it and transferred elsewhere, but just hadn't yet updated my LinkedIn account) to try to get me fired, but I already left. They also tried to get me deported by making all kinds of false reports at the ICA and SPF. They even doxxed me. So, dude, there wasn't any simping here at all. It was me fighting back against vicious and malicious sabotage attacks being made by a bunch of hateful and hypertoxic weirdos.
i agree that her "methods" were overboard and downright criminal, for a simple argument but i'd say that your personal attacks were not needed, in my opinion. i get that it's easy for an outsider like me to say this but i'd like to think that people should always take the high road, especially against psychos like her. but yea, my heart goes out to you man. shits not easy. god bless
@@FallenAngelz21 - What personal attacks? You mean when AFTER ALL THE UNFAIR ACCUSATIONS, malicious misrepresentations she made claiming that I'm "anti-Singaporean" and evil attacks she made against me, plus all those threats to sabotage me in real life, I made a GENERIC STATEMENT on FB similar to a rule of thumb like "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones?" I didn't make a personal attack on her because my comment wasn't directed at anyone. It was a general statement. She felt alluded to, and that's her problem. ...after so much harassment she put to me? Come on. You need to understand that it's only natural to give such generic advice. That wasn't a personal attack against her. It was HER PROBLEM when she felt alluded to.
They should lock these 2 in a room for 6 hours, without any cameras and telling them they would be released in 6 hrs. That way, both might either murder the other one or bith come to a stalemate or peace offering.
At the end of the day its just a small girl excited about a bag her dad purchased for her. We cant comment on anyone's family situation online but the joy she had was real. For those calling her a liar, it was the social media community that criticized her first to bring that viral. She didnt intentionally post that original post wanting to "make herself famous" to land in that opportunity. Serene might be wrong abt the accusation,but orion's subsequent behavior does not reflect much on himself even though his original intention is to help zoe - lots of hate speech trying to divide foreigners vs singaporean and dragging politics in is way low. Theres better way to educate people abt the hardships foreginers have here.
Actually, there wasn't much that was wrong with what I did. If you saw how I was being unfairly treated after I merely educated Serene Ho about the costs that foreigners are charged for school fees and why Zoe wasn't lying, you'd see exactly where the problem lies. She kept misrepresenting me as being anti-Singaporean even if I said or did nothing to warrant such a description. Eventually, I made a very GENERIC STATEMENT akin to a rule of thumb similar to "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones." That generic statement did not name her and it did not make any references to her whatsover. She simply felt alluded to and she went berserk. What you don't even realize is that the whole idea of trying to sabotage me by "getting me fired" or "getting me deported" was something that already happened early on after I merely educated her and proved her false accusations against Zoe to be wrong. Eventually, all I did was to defend myself. And in that video where I simply described my tormentors' mental deficiencies (S. and I.), that was purely directed at that small ragtag gang of troublemakers. At no point did I ever refer to Singaporeans at all. Why would I? I have so many really good friends who are Singaporeans. I have been integrated and even very much assimilated since my first few years in the early 2000s were spent heavily with Singaporeans and not much with my own compatriots. It's a mistake for anyone to fall for the misrepresentations being made by all those who are against me just because I disproved this one extremely toxic female in her unfair misrepresentations of Zoe Gabriel and her family.
@@OrionPD if you read carefully I didn't say you were wrong. Just maybe the way you defend yourself can be more classy? Don't have to stoop as low as the other person that's what I was saying. Don't have to bring LKY and stuff into this.
@@AoiAkaio8 -- It's easy to say "can be more classy", you weren't the one being subjected to so much non-stop harassment and actual real life sabotage. First off, I came into the issue simply trying to shed light on financial realities that Serene and other people totally missed. Right after that, I got subjected to so much unfair attacks, unfair misrepresentation, and non-stop harassment plus threats of getting me deported based on false information concocted by that gang of thugs. Only after so much of that did I fight back. And in fact, what triggered her wasn't even an attack against her but an FB status update that was a generic piece of advice that actually makes sense for everyone which Serene felt alluded to (that's her problem). The reason why LKY got included here was precisely because part of why Serene and company attacked me relentlessly was because (1) Serene is anti-LKY and (2) I had a portrait of LKY in the background of one of my videos.
It is ironic and quite hypocritical of him to even criticize me for making videos to convey my message, as if to imply that he and he alone is entitled to make reaction videos. He forgets that on Facebook, I actually have 66K followers while here on RUclips, he only has 59.5K subscribers. He doesn't realize that I am actually an influencer in my own right, albeit we target very different audiences: he caters to a mostly Singaporean audience, I specifically cater to a mostly Filipino audience.
@@OrionPD So..... you're comparing followers as a measure of what? At this time of reply, this channel have 63k subscribers. So he's catching up on you really fast. Nobody is stopping you from making reaction videos. However you're the one name-calling in your reaction video so don't expect people not to call you out for your antics.
Actually I’m ok for Zoe to appreciate C&K gift from her dad and deemed it as luxury, but she no need to weep and lied that her family hardly able to put bread on table. That’s emotional manipulation. Or perhaps, her dad’s salary of $6k 13 years ago was considered as poor ? 🤷🏻♀️ I’m not surprised her dad actually earned $8-9k now as her tik tok videos have her with new gadgets and pretty dresses, which contradicted her claimed of family hardly able to make ends meet. That Orion guy obviously had something against Singaporeans, and used it as an opportunity to vent his unhappiness.
Oooofff...another serene karen here😂, yeah definitely nationally problem, hiazz... yeah like I care to agree or disagree below~ Damn, I didn't know most tik tokers r so pressed, my joke, my bad 🫢
@@haylenq Because I’m stating my point of view, and you disagree with me, that makes me a karen? 😅 I’m not even hate her, just my POV as a tik tok user
The biggest winner is Sushi, earning that juicy ad revenue 🎉
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Haha kinda true
i read this in sushi's voice 💀
Sneaky shi shi urinating on internet beefs 😂
Legit
They literally went from constructive criticism to insulating each other's appearance to insulting each other's life. 2 adults btw, arguing like secondary school students. Both are just trying to gain attention and fame because they literally have nothing else better to do
Good also wad, can let sushi earn more money😂
secondary school students can totally discuss a matter with high civility. These two people are lower than that.
Actually, I just made a very general statement on my Facebook status update. A general statement that had absolutely zero reference to Serene Ho.
But she's so onion-skinned and immediately felt alluded to so she went berserk.
In her case, everything is directed towards me. When I made that statement about anyone who has a face like that should be nicer, no one was named, no specific references were made. It was a very general statement.
But she immediately felt alluded to, and that's her problem. Sneaky Sushi's problem is that he himself DID NOT REALIZE that my FB statement was a general one which did not specifically name or reference anyone.
@@yong-haotan6576 --- Nope, that's not what happened. To begin with, I didn't even attack Serene Ho. I just simply educated her on the costs that foreigners have to pay for school and hospital and rent which most Singapore citizens won't have to pay due to gov't subsidies. She went berserk after that and kept attacking me and even went to lengths to misrepresent me as being "anti-Singaporean."
When I made a very general statement that didn't name her and had absolutely no references to her, she felt alluded to it and went haywire.
It's wrong to even put that on me when the statement I made was a general RULE OF THUMB with zero references made to anyone.
@@OrionPD Ong my friend is a foreigner and we have been taught in school that most sg citizens school fees are heavily subsidised. As well as In poly and university
this what happen when you too much free time and no hobbies
Literally, they are acting like kids insulting each other lmao
*SIGHS*
I was expecting the beef you were gonna serve in this video to be yoshinoya standard but thank you sushi you gave me wagyu beef roasted by the gods
yoshinoya beef not bad wat HAHAHA
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I mean... paying international student fee rates at a local school is something really costly. Earning 8-9k while having 6 kids and paying rent/mortgage can mean being financially tight. But how this whole saga unfolds is great entertainment for us plebs during exam weeks *intensified idiots*
Yep i was the foreign kid attending local school. People thought my family's rich but my parents had to ask for government assistance to lower my school fees.
That purely your assumption. I do agree its not easy but her dad already made the point he earns enough to have his family living relatively comfortable and still have enough for saving.
So there is no need to stubbornly assume his family are financially tight, when the dad is doing a good job and has good earning power.
@@Missy_Ai that is also purely your assumption. Of course the Dad will say such things, most Dads do so that their family don’t have to share the burden of stress. The problem with you as with most, is that you draw the line that’s people are either rich or poor, but the majority are in between. And a foreign family living in between is many times worse than a local family.
@@damienlee927 I didn’t deny there will be some sort of stresses in life, everybody does. I am not saying her family is rich, but I don’t believe her when she said her family is living in proverty that’s why CK bag to her is a luxury.
To me, able to nap in the afternoon is a luxury, and I don’t need to in proverty to prove my point.
@@damienlee927 By the way, I don’t agree foreign family living in between is many times worse than a local family. I have seen many having better living standards here, so it’s more about earning power and financial prudence.
we really need to thank Sushii for bringing us these kind of entertainment. Bro thank you!!!
Best video about this saga so far. Entertaining and precise short and sweet. LOL
quality 16min content, better than sushi’s feet piccs 😌
Exactly
sauce?
@@Daniel-ld3hm 😰
Auntie Serene and Uncle Orion would be a match made in Tinder. 😊
S and O stands for Significant Other
this is how most love stories start
Plot twist!! 🤣
Although both are too agitated… but I think Serene went too far but digging into orions company and call them, also called ica to deport him… sighs, too free Liao…
Yes, you're totally right about that.
In reality, I wasn't really that agitated. I was quite amused at how Serene was so riled up by my having corrected her wrong notions (when I showed a detailed probable expense breakdown of how much Zoe's family very likely has to pay, them being foreigners with the dad on EP and everyone else on DP).
But she was indeed exploding to the point of calling the company I just recently left in order to join a new one (I just haven't updated my LinkedIn yet, and now I won't, because of weirdos like her). She and one of her partners-in-crime, Durian Tabloid, actually DOXXED ME several times!
@@OrionPD EEEEEEEEEDIOT
@OrionPD did ica really contact you? Its extremely important for foreigners to retain a clean record to stay in singapore and losing it to some internet beef is really unfair. Scummy move on her part.
@@laylaminrir -- Hi. ICA didn't contact me at all. Actually, Serene Ho's reports against me were totally ignored by ICA.
Quite a number of sympathetic Singaporeans contacted me telling me that they lodged police reports against Serene Ho and several of her friends, and told me the process on how to do the same. When I went over to a police station to lodge a report against these trouble makers, they told me that several other people had indeed lodged reports against Serene Ho and several of her minions.
I asked if there were any existing reports against me within the SPF and ICA lodged by Serene Ho and her minions, and the investigating officer said there were absolutely none. In short, if Serene and her friends tried making all sorts of false reports against me, they were ignored/dismissed as being baseless.
One thing to note is that Serene Ho and her friends only made their fake complaints against me to the ICA through the online portal. When Serene boasted that she had "reported" me, she posted a screenshot of the AUTOMATED RESPONSE template sent by the ICA online portal.
Clearly, her report was dismissed/ignored because there was no basis for her complaints.
The complaints that many of us made against Serene Ho to the police on the other hand, had piled up.
However, these are considered "non-arrestable offenses" which require lodging civil complaints (based on the existing SPF police report) at the Magistrate Court. I haven't found the time to lodge this at the Magistrate Court yet. But what's important is that Serene Ho (as well as several of her evil minions) does have quite a record of complaints piling up against her at the SPF. :)
In reality, the SG Government won't also just summarily blacken a foreigner's record just because a citizen made several false claims. They'll make sure to do some investigations first.
I mean, what if a vicious "gangster"-type local SG citizen sought to harm a foreigner, and the foreigner merely defended himself? It wouldn't be fair if the foreigner's record was destroyed simply because he defended himself against the local's unfair attack.
Average facebook enjoyer:
This is the epitome of what it means by "Jiak ba eng eng bo sai pang".
tbh.. i didnt know these beef even existed..
I swear a lot of Singaporeans are just salty that free things happen to others that's why they need to pwn others to feel good about themselves. Jealousy truly is disgusting.
Indeed... those jealous individuals are doing for the sheer pleasure of destroying peoples lives... not to take what they have already...basically is not only some singaporeans who are salty but every world there will be some individual who acts that way
All I am seeing is two boomers sparring on the internet as if it is some primary school canteen. 😂
Please keep us updated on this saga sushi this is so entertaining!! Eeeeediot!! LOL
Auntie and uncle have all the time in the world to fight in facebook 😂
This is Wagyu
12:32 EEEEE-DIOTS 😭😭😭💀💀💀💀
sometimes boomer are just too sensitive or serious (shit 26 minutes ago)
Finally got my luxury BATA shoe today!
Some people really too free. In the end, only Zoe and Sneaky Sushi can gain something out of it financially.
Thanks kor kor, you had made my day.
Key takeaway:
Say it with me guys, "EEEE-DIOTS"
13:55
You're welcome
Damn, some kind of advertisement jingle that sounds like 'yew' kept playing in my head after hearing this Eeee-idiots repeatedly 😅
This is entertaining, I wanna see how/when/where the fight escalate to in the next update..let me see more of the "Stoobid Eedioots" drama.
Lol auntie gave me perspective about her experience/ thoughts on foreign workers in Singapore, saying that "Singaporeans don't even want to take this job in their own country, they shouldn't be complaining about foreign workers taking their jobs".
The auntie shared that these foreigners are the same as Singaporeans. They don't wanna take the jobs in their own countries, and came to Singapore to work. So it isn't fair for them to make that statement.
Bottomline: Everyone, any where, all wanna make MORE money.
to be fair to orion (for at least his initial video response) i think it likely comes from a place of hurt since filipinos in general are looked upon with disdain and subject to xenophobic sentiments by singapore citizens from the major local ethnic groups even if they are fully integrated and practically indistinguishable from "true blue" locals. i think it was fair for him to come up with his own commentary/perspective as a PSA to respond to serene who is genuinely insane, just the continued engagement was unnecessary because again, she is legitimately insane lol. it isn't so much as being triggered as perhaps just being sick and tired of people assuming being an expat, especially from an asian country isn't as easy as online discourse makes it out to be.
Yeah. You can tell Serene's intentions when she deliberately called her a Pinoy girl. She's the one who throw the first stone for no apparent reason.
just because you come from a world of hurt doesnt mean you can fling out attacks like that though. thats just having a victim complex. very immature
@@entrydenied Pinoy is not a derogative term so idk what's the issue
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinoy
@@hlee2 It's not. But there was no reason for her to point out the girl's nationality in the first place.
@@TheLastResort1987 well the comment about the world of hurt wasn't about attacking people though, it was about orion's commentary about the cost of living for non citizens, and why zoe gabriel's dad may not have been wealthy even with a take home pay close to SGD$10K, which then drew the responses that followed from serene.
i also don't think the victim complex applies to orion. I agree that his responses(attacks) to serene were very immature and degrades his standing but it was by and large in response to serene, and not just because he believes himself to be a victim.
I have no horse in this race, i just thought sushi's initial representation of the situation was a bit iffy, dismissing his response toe the zoe gabriel situation as simply getting triggered when there are undercurrents fuelling why he thought it necessary. Ultimately i have too much free time on my hands ah but i would also like if sushii's discussion was a bit more nuanced
no one gon talk about how cool sushi's arm tat looks?
Didnt know there is such a beef.
But definitely with seren on this one.
When the story first hit, it was really heartwarming. The underdog got her day.
And then i start to see her previous posts actually has her in branded goods. So it looked sus af….probably a marketing gimmick.
homies went from defending zoe to being political with each other...
Those two low key reminded me of the two girls from Crimewatch lmao
I think she got called out because she became a brand ambassador for Charles & Keith.
So what. Only the poor can become C&K ambassador? What thinking process they go through
Ya they made her the ambassador after she was mocked by singaporeans for saying that it is a high end bag
@@laylaminrir That's the point. Haters gonna hate. It was a feel-good story until she was able to use the opportunity given to her by being "poor". People do not want to see people succeed thus they hate on her.
Zoe doesnt need to worry on rising real estate in Sg,living rent free in that person mind
Sushii : I am just here for the entertainment man and it is just so funny... seeing these 2 people getting worked up talking about Zoe
Me : This is the way.
At this point, Dumdum & Ho should be marrying to each other, they seem to be great at profiling. Pretty sure they will successfully run a private detective "Dum Ho" company together lmao
Omg this is the best response to this whole situation 👏👏👏
Pls don't! I can't imagine the karens and kevins they have! 💀
“stoOooPid eeeeeee - diot” gave me spongebob meme vibes 😂
Sushii News Channel. I didn't know about this saga until I watched this.
Who wouldn’t get worked up after knowing the other party tries deporting you and getting you fired😪
Indeed. It's actually unfair of Sneaky Sushi to not understand why I taunted those "S.H." types who couldn't get me fired because I had already left the company they were calling to try to sabotage me plus they tried deporting me (I wasn't in Singapore at the time).
...plus, all this happened because I simply did a good deed: defending someone who was being unfairly misrepresented. Plus I didn't even attack those people who misrepresented Zoe. I merely educated them on the costs that foreigners are charged for hospital and school fees which are much higher than what local citizens are asked to pay.
@@OrionPD Don't be an idiot lah..... You already went overboard by using LKY and PAP for your little children quarrels. CMI.
You're also very emotionally unstable in that 26 mins rant. smh. Get a grip.
@OrionPD when you deliberately got one of Serene's friends banned from Facebook who is a) undergoing treatment for cancer and b) is innocent of any charges that you made against her, you have forfeited any claim to goodness, and have shown yourself to be a spitefully hateful evil person.
Given that you are actively promoting your political movement from Singapore, and are allowing the PRC to megalomaniacally attack your own country (Scarborough Shoal, as one example), while attacking a completely correct person like Serene Ho in such a cowardly manner, it is clear, Orion Perez Dumdum, that you are not acting in the best interests of your country, just in the interest of your misogynistic hateful evil ego.
This argument is stupid but why is it so entertaining LOL
Just for laughs gags
I'm a Filipino fan and wow I am very surprised you did a video about this feud I happen to be following as well 😅
Turns out this whole saga is an advertisement for the tv series BEEF on Netflix!😂
These two jokers providing weekend entertainment
This was timely considering the recent Beef series which just came onto Netflix 😮
Yes ikr hahah
dh time to read all these drama but thanks for your videos in summarising and entertaining
In real life you walk by a sidewalk, saw a shit and walk by it. On the internet you walk down the sidewalk and saw a shit then starts rolling in it then say who did this to me. - Asmon
Wow I'm surprise you did not make a dig on the framed LKY photo strategically placed behind Orion in his video. Is this how he got ICA to side with him?
This orion dude is still replying to people in the comments here. lol.
@@sleepyearth -- Of course. I don't tolerate unjust comments that misrepresent the truth.
Anyway, ICA finds nothing wrong with me or anything I did.
LMFAO how are they not embarrassed... this is fking hilarious
Zoey probably just want to be excludes from the narrative at this point🤷🏽♀️
i like how every juicy part will not load because of youtube's fucking shadow rules
Part 2 for continuation pls 😂
He’s commenting here ser
"You EEEEEEDIOT" "LUUUUUUUUZER" HAHAHAHA I CANNOT ITS NOW STUCK IN MY HEAD
part 2 when?
sushi lookin like a kpop member 🔥 🔥
He is!
Well, without this Internet drama there would be no entertainment for us poor slum dwellers.
omg this is like the SG adaptation of the show Beef!! XD
we need part 2!
The accent lmao. really killed it this one.
What a video
nobody would want to migrate to another country to get suffer from financial burden. If you are unable to afford living in Singapore, a very simple thing to do is just to go back to your own country for good, think again
NGL the dumdum quite funny
FYI, the surname is pronounced as "doom-doom" and actually means "to remember" in the Visayan languages of the Visayan archipelago in the Central Philippines.
Actually, I am so surprised by these 2 common responses by people to her. Shouldn't it be that don't focus so much on material goods and instead simply be happy? I know it sounds corny, but why the hyper interest in branded goods?
Oh wow , I have no idea there was a continuation of the saga after the beginning arc.
The way i see it, if these 2 quarreling has become this viral, means the real shit is happening somewhere, and we are all being distracted by the DumDum Serena Ho saga
I RECOGNISE HIS BACKGROUND IN THAT VIDEO HES IN TIIGO BEACH CLUB IN BATAM GOOD FOR HIM LOL
the winner at the end of the day is charles and keith
In the end, why care about what others think. Their opinions don't matter.
This serene make herself look really stupid honestly. Sadly, this is how most people in Singapore act, really xiaoxuey leh
Can they both be charged for doxxing ? Lol
sushii so segzy today
Serene is angry you’re referring to her 😂
Beef on Netflix was a great show
The accent. I’m obsessed.
please do another video saga on wanglei and joe
Not sure about why but seeing two grown up adults quarrelling in internet for a 'very good reason' is very pleasing to watch
Imo, Serene did go overboard on this one. She went full karen and contacted the ICA and tried to get Orion fired from his job, all over some petty internet beef. Orion could have handled this infinitely better, but he has every right to be as upset as he is.
the fact its still going on in 2024 is just crazy
both have nothing to do
when are you uploading on main channel again?
FB is where all the zesty stuff like this happens
why so serious 😭
hahaha you the best man sushi! love the vid
Longchamp is considered luxury to me 😭
never laughed so hard at Sushii's eeeeeeeediots before ahahahahhahahaha so farrrrrrrrnie
I cannot get over his first video with the framed LKY portrait.
Haha the uncle defending the girl just like xmm la. In the end the world once again is moving due to xmm’s.
omg thanks for making me laugh!! U are sooo funny!! It's amazing how much time and ego people have to invest in all these useless squabbles 🤦🏼🤦🏼
Cloth hair band makes your forehead looks shorter 😂
mans lowkey simping/white knighting for Zoe
Really? Stating facts are simping?
@@Jinkypigs stating facts is stating facts. if he had left it at that, sure. but going so far as to "defend" a kid over the internet and continuing to "debate" with the haters, for her sake and taking things personal is textbook simping
@@FallenAngelz21 --- I think you totally miss the point.
I stated the facts and left it at that.
But guess what...
Because I had simply devasted her wrong arguments about Zoe, the main hater went berserk and started misrepresenting me as being "anti-Singaporean" and had her minions doxx me at numerous anti-foreigner FB groups (including anti-CECA groups), to try to get random people to attack me.
Worse, she and her minions even called my old company (I already left it and transferred elsewhere, but just hadn't yet updated my LinkedIn account) to try to get me fired, but I already left.
They also tried to get me deported by making all kinds of false reports at the ICA and SPF.
They even doxxed me.
So, dude, there wasn't any simping here at all. It was me fighting back against vicious and malicious sabotage attacks being made by a bunch of hateful and hypertoxic weirdos.
i agree that her "methods" were overboard and downright criminal, for a simple argument but i'd say that your personal attacks were not needed, in my opinion. i get that it's easy for an outsider like me to say this but i'd like to think that people should always take the high road, especially against psychos like her. but yea, my heart goes out to you man. shits not easy. god bless
@@FallenAngelz21 - What personal attacks?
You mean when AFTER ALL THE UNFAIR ACCUSATIONS, malicious misrepresentations she made claiming that I'm "anti-Singaporean" and evil attacks she made against me, plus all those threats to sabotage me in real life, I made a GENERIC STATEMENT on FB similar to a rule of thumb like "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones?" I didn't make a personal attack on her because my comment wasn't directed at anyone. It was a general statement.
She felt alluded to, and that's her problem.
...after so much harassment she put to me? Come on. You need to understand that it's only natural to give such generic advice.
That wasn't a personal attack against her. It was HER PROBLEM when she felt alluded to.
Serene is coming for you next Sushi
What grown man posts sth like this, goes to sleep, wakes up and still thinks it's a good idea to keep it up. Lol
They should lock these 2 in a room for 6 hours, without any cameras and telling them they would be released in 6 hrs. That way, both might either murder the other one or bith come to a stalemate or peace offering.
Netflix need to do Beef version of Singapore.
Update: They are still trading low blows towards each other
At the end of the day its just a small girl excited about a bag her dad purchased for her. We cant comment on anyone's family situation online but the joy she had was real. For those calling her a liar, it was the social media community that criticized her first to bring that viral. She didnt intentionally post that original post wanting to "make herself famous" to land in that opportunity. Serene might be wrong abt the accusation,but orion's subsequent behavior does not reflect much on himself even though his original intention is to help zoe - lots of hate speech trying to divide foreigners vs singaporean and dragging politics in is way low. Theres better way to educate people abt the hardships foreginers have here.
Actually, there wasn't much that was wrong with what I did. If you saw how I was being unfairly treated after I merely educated Serene Ho about the costs that foreigners are charged for school fees and why Zoe wasn't lying, you'd see exactly where the problem lies.
She kept misrepresenting me as being anti-Singaporean even if I said or did nothing to warrant such a description.
Eventually, I made a very GENERIC STATEMENT akin to a rule of thumb similar to "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."
That generic statement did not name her and it did not make any references to her whatsover.
She simply felt alluded to and she went berserk.
What you don't even realize is that the whole idea of trying to sabotage me by "getting me fired" or "getting me deported" was something that already happened early on after I merely educated her and proved her false accusations against Zoe to be wrong.
Eventually, all I did was to defend myself.
And in that video where I simply described my tormentors' mental deficiencies (S. and I.), that was purely directed at that small ragtag gang of troublemakers.
At no point did I ever refer to Singaporeans at all. Why would I? I have so many really good friends who are Singaporeans. I have been integrated and even very much assimilated since my first few years in the early 2000s were spent heavily with Singaporeans and not much with my own compatriots.
It's a mistake for anyone to fall for the misrepresentations being made by all those who are against me just because I disproved this one extremely toxic female in her unfair misrepresentations of Zoe Gabriel and her family.
@@OrionPD if you read carefully I didn't say you were wrong. Just maybe the way you defend yourself can be more classy? Don't have to stoop as low as the other person that's what I was saying. Don't have to bring LKY and stuff into this.
@@AoiAkaio8 -- It's easy to say "can be more classy", you weren't the one being subjected to so much non-stop harassment and actual real life sabotage.
First off, I came into the issue simply trying to shed light on financial realities that Serene and other people totally missed. Right after that, I got subjected to so much unfair attacks, unfair misrepresentation, and non-stop harassment plus threats of getting me deported based on false information concocted by that gang of thugs. Only after so much of that did I fight back. And in fact, what triggered her wasn't even an attack against her but an FB status update that was a generic piece of advice that actually makes sense for everyone which Serene felt alluded to (that's her problem).
The reason why LKY got included here was precisely because part of why Serene and company attacked me relentlessly was because (1) Serene is anti-LKY and (2) I had a portrait of LKY in the background of one of my videos.
Hey, this video was shared by the karen boomer
so this is what old people do when they are on the internet
The irony of Sushii calling out overreaction over a Facebook post via a video reacting to an online brouhaha in a tiny corner of the internet.
It is ironic and quite hypocritical of him to even criticize me for making videos to convey my message, as if to imply that he and he alone is entitled to make reaction videos.
He forgets that on Facebook, I actually have 66K followers while here on RUclips, he only has 59.5K subscribers.
He doesn't realize that I am actually an influencer in my own right, albeit we target very different audiences: he caters to a mostly Singaporean audience, I specifically cater to a mostly Filipino audience.
@@OrionPD So..... you're comparing followers as a measure of what? At this time of reply, this channel have 63k subscribers. So he's catching up on you really fast.
Nobody is stopping you from making reaction videos.
However you're the one name-calling in your reaction video so don't expect people not to call you out for your antics.
Actually I’m ok for Zoe to appreciate C&K gift from her dad and deemed it as luxury, but she no need to weep and lied that her family hardly able to put bread on table. That’s emotional manipulation. Or perhaps, her dad’s salary of $6k 13 years ago was considered as poor ? 🤷🏻♀️
I’m not surprised her dad actually earned $8-9k now as her tik tok videos have her with new gadgets and pretty dresses, which contradicted her claimed of family hardly able to make ends meet.
That Orion guy obviously had something against Singaporeans, and used it as an opportunity to vent his unhappiness.
Yes,he has a problem with Singaporean but not with Singapore dollar .
Oooofff...another serene karen here😂, yeah definitely nationally problem, hiazz...
yeah like I care to agree or disagree below~
Damn, I didn't know most tik tokers r so pressed, my joke, my bad 🫢
Why are you so concerned over a stranger to the point you need to ascertain that you’re ok or not ok with what a stranger does?
@@haylenq Because I’m stating my point of view, and you disagree with me, that makes me a karen? 😅
I’m not even hate her, just my POV as a tik tok user
@@mad_harmonies Since when I said I am overly concerned? I just state as my POV as a tik tok user.
Wow... They're both so intense....
Chronically online 💀💀