You should check out Vinushka live (the vid where he is wearing black in the thumbnail and has over 1 mil views) since you were kind of on the fence with this one. This performance was also not the best he sorta mumbles through some of the singing parts.
Favorite band ! Kyō the singer is a savage show man 🤘His high pitched screams are actually "whistle screams" even if they are maybe not best executed here. Saw them live for the first time 20 years ago and still feel so many emotions ! Time flies, keep smiling ♥
You can pronounce the name any way you want. Your pronunciation is actually the typical German one :) This video is over 15 years old and probably not the _best_ version to start with as Kyo drops quite a few words and this was around the time the band was touring themselves to death. I personally love these lives because they are powerful and raw af but if you hear a song for the first time those things can be distracting. I would still recommend reacting to live performances over studio because they really are a live band (meaning: a lot of their songs feel very different and more 'complete' live) When it comes to the mixing Dir en grey are pretty experimental sometimes and quite often you only hear the brilliance when you have the perfect equipment to watch/listen on (most of their DVDs don't translate very well to RUclips). When it comes to the video you were very taken by how 'disturbing' it was but there is a social and political component to the video that adds a deeper layer which is not so easy to understand by western audiences. There is definitely an element of shock-value but it's not done for shock's sake. Every single frame in that video has a meaning (I'm not kidding you. There are so many layers I could write a 200 page long paper about it. It also plays a lot with imagery from pop-culture, folklore, religion and imperial history). I understand your reluctance or wariness to comment on the song because you don't understand the lyrics and you are only confronted by a bunch of seemingly non-sensical imagery so I just wanted to comment on that and give some information. A lot of Dir en grey songs are concerned with social and personal matters of living and while some of them are written from a perspective that condemns a certain way of living or an action they are never judgemental. That's probably the thing that makes Kyo's lyrics so insanely poetical. They are often written from a very specific single-minded but very relevant view and its up to the listener to connect with the topic and think about it for themselves. Different songs can have a very different point of view on the same topic. The main theme of Obscure is the abortion crisis that was still very big when the song was written ( 2002/2003) and which was the result of a social refusal to use condoms. I have women in the Japanese side of my family who had 10+ abortions before they turned 30. It's not a joke. A lot of people interpret the song as being anti-abortion. That is certainly one interpretation, but it's not a relevant Japanese interpretation. The question at this time was not whether abortions should be allowed or not (of course they should be, if it's a woman's choice) but how to protect women and society from 'customary abortions'. And that is a legal and political debate that can only be understood through the eyes of the Japanese legal system and social/philosophical view on "what constitutes life". The video to "Obscure" is the video director's examination of this topic. Since it's my first time on your channel I'm not sure what type of songs you usually like but I would love to recommend the song "Rinkaku" (live) mainly to hear your thoughts on Kyo's clean vocals there. Otherwise "Vinsuhka" (live from the Androgynous live) is always a good one to get a better picture of the band. If you want to stick to studio versions for the next reaction go with "Different Sense" for a heavier song and "Otogi" for a newer one with clean only vocals. Anyway, thank you for the reaction and sorry for this wall of text. Have a good day!
I read the whole text. It's amazing what your are writing. Kyo is a damn good singer. For a first live, they should not took an old version. Kyo's voice got better over 20 years. This time I would say he is one of the best singer ever in the whole world. Absolutely love this band. 🥁🎸
Oh man this is so old school hahaha I always have a sweet spot for old DeG in my heart even though its not as perfected as they are now both performance and voice-wise Personally I wouldn't use older recording as an introduction to the band, however, it is always great to see the evolution. I beg you to make another video with some of newer stuff (if you take suggestions from comments I'm thinking about Different sense from Tour18 Shinsekai; very recent Schadenfreude from Phalaris tour; Diabolos from TOUR16-17 FROM DEPRESSION TO ______ [mode of DUM SPIRO SPERO]; Vinushka is a classic one). I believe this way you'll be able to really grasp the essence of the band + Kyo's vocals improved tremendously over the years Anyways, thank you for featuring them on your channel and I hope to see you coming back! *~*
I definitely recommend checking out more Dir En Grey, the studio recording definitely sounds better with his cleans but the music video for this one I think would have been a bit much
I know I had seen the video when it released originally but had forgotten about it. Went back and got through a min and was like “ah yeah, now I remember why I don’t watch their music videos”.
Dir en grey is my favorite band, but Obscure is actually far from being one of my favorite songs by them. Please do check out more, song like Kuukoku no Kyouon, Rinkaku and Diabolos for exemplo are much better imo. Hope you react to more of their stuff!
This was a while back when the vocalist was having issues with his voice so please check out a song like rinkaku or vinushka from a later date (His voice got 2x better ) Rinkaku: ruclips.net/video/B8VkpQNW5MU/видео.htmlsi=a0M8XURQmF5W3Adw Vinushka: ruclips.net/video/8W0h2yht6IA/видео.htmlsi=IAkpPWz61xXi3Ytc
This is a very aggressive song. They play so many different kinds of songs. Vinushka and Macabre are two great performances if you're looking to try more! Great video though 👍
Much more important than the shocking content of the music video: There are 2 versions of Obscure. One is the old version from the music video and the other is the completely reworked new recording that you reacted to. In terms of sound, these are two completely different songs :D But I liked your reaction. You should really do one for their song 'Vinushka' (watch?v=BVhAVHcu-r0). I can highly recommend the videos with subtitles done by Kaya.
This concert is previous to Kyo's dysphonia surgery, his voice improved a lot once his problem was solved although he has a non conventional style and likes to play with his insane vocal range, diferent voices and weird primal sounds to express his feelings so may need few listens to appreciate it. It would be great if you gave them a new chance, they are quite special band. As others suggested, Vinushka live is great, but to recommend something else would say Tousei live ruclips.net/video/MA-zXhJBtNY/видео.html it's shorter and maybe more commercial or easier to digest to all kind of listeners.
There's no other band like Dir en grey. I hope I get to see at least one more reaction from the two of you to one of their more epic songs (preferably "The World of Mercy", "Macabre" or "Vinushka"). I would love to sponsor a song but that's about the money I have for a week to eat and drink :/ So a huge Thank You to the person who brought them on the channel so I can watch this one for free and to the two of you for the time and honest commentary! Have a nice day!
Thanks so much for your kind and respectful comment. We've noted your recommendations and will definitely add to an upcoming Japanese Metal Saturday!! ✌🏽
You should do more DIR EN GREY. Kyo has a variety of vocal techniques, try Vinushka or Uroko (both Live). He is a great frontmen. For Toshiya (Bass), he often changes his style and that makes him unique (but sometimes you might think he looks like someone). Different strumming between two guitarists is often done in several Japanese bands, the ones I remember include DIR EN GREY and The Gazette. And the last thing, if you search about Sinya (drum), he is said to be a drummer who creates unique patterns in every song.
I agree on the original video for this, that is why I sent the live one. There studio sound is a lot better. Them sounding like Korn might be why Johnathan Davis likes them so much lol thanks for checking it out!
Hmm the problem here is the most recent youtube live of this song is there better technic for singing this song.. This is the old version but there is not enough air...
Dir en Grey is not a band you can grasp on a first listen especially since their all lives are a whole new experience even with the same song. There is so much to explore with them and it will not be for everyone. Their studio releases are not the same song as the lives but not because they are better or worse. Just different. I would love to see you guys dive in little more with them~ Obscure was my fave song from them when I first started to listen them in the early 2000 and it still has a spot for me but I don't think it would be the song to start with if someone asked me to introduce them.
Many rec Vinushka but I also think this one would be very good introduction piece for them. One of my favorite live concerts. ruclips.net/video/Xb3WwNIIzwM/видео.html
Alot of people start with obscure which can make or break dir en grey for most. Especially the music video with its intentional shock value. I feel there are many songs that better represent the band and their sound, skill and uniqueness. A relatively new song schadenfreude would be one I would choose. - ruclips.net/video/VXnNfHXKsNI/видео.htmlsi=OklOzfS_t-GI-z97
I did listen to this song but I couldn’t get past the high-pitched sound. I heard very few words; it was more like screaming and just bouncing around. I do agree that the guitar section was doing a great job of holding it together. My beats are charging, so I couldn’t hear what you were talking about in the mix. And I get what you mean, Jillian, about being wary of what you might see. I hear that some bands (not all) can be a little raunchy on stage. All-in-all, a great analysis today! 🎶 Cyd
Kyo, frontman, owner of a 5 octave voice, by the way, he has been singing like this for 30 years. But yeah, it's very scary. And the name of the group comes from the title of the novel "The Picture of Dorian Gray".
I always wonder where such mis-information comes from. Simply to feed my personal curiosity: Where did you read the band's name had anything to do with _The Picture of Dorian Gray_ ? I love that novel btw. but just to clear this up; according to numerous interviews the band took the name from a song by the band Lareine and mistranslated it. When they became aware of their mistake they were already too big to change it and now it's simply a name that means 'Dir en grey' the band. There is no other meaning behind it.
This song itself is not really where vocalist(Kyō) shines when it comes to singing. Plus he likes to experiment a lot with his voice when performing live, so it's quite often that he changes a style each time they perform. He can actually hit about 5 octaves, if I remember correctly. Vinushka is a song I'd usually recommend to people who are getting into their music, live performance, of course. That one is for versatility, Un Deux is my personal favourite when it comes to singing itself. :)
You should make a reaction to the live version of this DIR EN GREY songs. Links below. The world of mercy ruclips.net/video/Lj8Ls01Zmo8/видео.html Vinushka ruclips.net/video/BVhAVHcu-r0/видео.html Dreambox ruclips.net/video/JPkFbro1_14/видео.htmlsi=3QBUE9obmvg4B7f3
I'll echo other comment and say this isn't a great song to start Dir En Grey with (while Obscure not awful, I'd say its music video sort of the best version if only of sheer shock value)
I don't believe you liked the chorus with the singing vocal! Just don't believe you.... You facial expression hinted me : shit this sound awful, dang...but I took the money and now I better come up with something :D Dude, I know that labels pay you money lol
Ur not shure about anything. No madd. Ya. . Corn sucks. You think when my grandpa. Dropping bombs on Germany. I love ya. Damn. 19 years. . I hVe no clue for him.. my heart goes out to anyone. That. Got hurt by war. I think. If i had a chance. To ask. Him . How he felt. Kill people. I think. . me. As a child. His heart 💔 gave up. .
Better I guess. Kinda had a nervous breakdown. I'm sorry 😔. Just going thru a rough patch. And it sucks. Getting help. Tnx for being kind. Much lv always. Peace 🕊️.
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You should check out Vinushka live (the vid where he is wearing black in the thumbnail and has over 1 mil views) since you were kind of on the fence with this one. This performance was also not the best he sorta mumbles through some of the singing parts.
yeah
Great song & performance! There’s a version of that with English subs on RUclips as well.
Favorite band ! Kyō the singer is a savage show man 🤘His high pitched screams are actually "whistle screams" even if they are maybe not best executed here.
Saw them live for the first time 20 years ago and still feel so many emotions !
Time flies, keep smiling ♥
Bro you should check out《vinushka》live😉
Live androgynos best
You can pronounce the name any way you want. Your pronunciation is actually the typical German one :)
This video is over 15 years old and probably not the _best_ version to start with as Kyo drops quite a few words and this was around the time the band was touring themselves to death. I personally love these lives because they are powerful and raw af but if you hear a song for the first time those things can be distracting.
I would still recommend reacting to live performances over studio because they really are a live band (meaning: a lot of their songs feel very different and more 'complete' live)
When it comes to the mixing Dir en grey are pretty experimental sometimes and quite often you only hear the brilliance when you have the perfect equipment to watch/listen on (most of their DVDs don't translate very well to RUclips).
When it comes to the video you were very taken by how 'disturbing' it was but there is a social and political component to the video that adds a deeper layer which is not so easy to understand by western audiences. There is definitely an element of shock-value but it's not done for shock's sake. Every single frame in that video has a meaning (I'm not kidding you. There are so many layers I could write a 200 page long paper about it. It also plays a lot with imagery from pop-culture, folklore, religion and imperial history). I understand your reluctance or wariness to comment on the song because you don't understand the lyrics and you are only confronted by a bunch of seemingly non-sensical imagery so I just wanted to comment on that and give some information. A lot of Dir en grey songs are concerned with social and personal matters of living and while some of them are written from a perspective that condemns a certain way of living or an action they are never judgemental. That's probably the thing that makes Kyo's lyrics so insanely poetical. They are often written from a very specific single-minded but very relevant view and its up to the listener to connect with the topic and think about it for themselves. Different songs can have a very different point of view on the same topic. The main theme of Obscure is the abortion crisis that was still very big when the song was written ( 2002/2003) and which was the result of a social refusal to use condoms. I have women in the Japanese side of my family who had 10+ abortions before they turned 30. It's not a joke. A lot of people interpret the song as being anti-abortion. That is certainly one interpretation, but it's not a relevant Japanese interpretation. The question at this time was not whether abortions should be allowed or not (of course they should be, if it's a woman's choice) but how to protect women and society from 'customary abortions'. And that is a legal and political debate that can only be understood through the eyes of the Japanese legal system and social/philosophical view on "what constitutes life". The video to "Obscure" is the video director's examination of this topic.
Since it's my first time on your channel I'm not sure what type of songs you usually like but I would love to recommend the song "Rinkaku" (live) mainly to hear your thoughts on Kyo's clean vocals there. Otherwise "Vinsuhka" (live from the Androgynous live) is always a good one to get a better picture of the band.
If you want to stick to studio versions for the next reaction go with "Different Sense" for a heavier song and "Otogi" for a newer one with clean only vocals.
Anyway, thank you for the reaction and sorry for this wall of text. Have a good day!
I read the whole text. It's amazing what your are writing.
Kyo is a damn good singer.
For a first live, they should not took an old version.
Kyo's voice got better over 20 years. This time I would say he is one of the best singer ever in the whole world. Absolutely love this band. 🥁🎸
Oh man this is so old school hahaha
I always have a sweet spot for old DeG in my heart even though its not as perfected as they are now both performance and voice-wise
Personally I wouldn't use older recording as an introduction to the band, however, it is always great to see the evolution. I beg you to make another video with some of newer stuff (if you take suggestions from comments I'm thinking about Different sense from Tour18 Shinsekai; very recent Schadenfreude from Phalaris tour; Diabolos from TOUR16-17 FROM DEPRESSION TO ______ [mode of DUM SPIRO SPERO]; Vinushka is a classic one). I believe this way you'll be able to really grasp the essence of the band + Kyo's vocals improved tremendously over the years
Anyways, thank you for featuring them on your channel and I hope to see you coming back! *~*
I definitely recommend checking out more Dir En Grey, the studio recording definitely sounds better with his cleans but the music video for this one I think would have been a bit much
React vinushka dir e grey ruclips.net/video/8W0h2yht6IA/видео.htmlsi=EUN1aTwMVDVKkKUk
I know I had seen the video when it released originally but had forgotten about it. Went back and got through a min and was like “ah yeah, now I remember why I don’t watch their music videos”.
We won't dare watch the original. Too many scary comments about it.
Dir en grey is my favorite band, but Obscure is actually far from being one of my favorite songs by them. Please do check out more, song like Kuukoku no Kyouon, Rinkaku and Diabolos for exemplo are much better imo. Hope you react to more of their stuff!
Thank you for the great suggestions.
This was a while back when the vocalist was having issues with his voice so please check out a song like rinkaku or vinushka from a later date (His voice got 2x better )
Rinkaku: ruclips.net/video/B8VkpQNW5MU/видео.htmlsi=a0M8XURQmF5W3Adw
Vinushka: ruclips.net/video/8W0h2yht6IA/видео.htmlsi=IAkpPWz61xXi3Ytc
Thank you for these suggestions - we'll check them out!
結構前のやつですね！最近のさらに進化遂げたobscureもぜひ見て欲しい！
This is a very aggressive song. They play so many different kinds of songs. Vinushka and Macabre are two great performances if you're looking to try more! Great video though 👍
Much more important than the shocking content of the music video: There are 2 versions of Obscure. One is the old version from the music video and the other is the completely reworked new recording that you reacted to. In terms of sound, these are two completely different songs :D But I liked your reaction. You should really do one for their song 'Vinushka' (watch?v=BVhAVHcu-r0). I can highly recommend the videos with subtitles done by Kaya.
This concert is previous to Kyo's dysphonia surgery, his voice improved a lot once his problem was solved although he has a non conventional style and likes to play with his insane vocal range, diferent voices and weird primal sounds to express his feelings so may need few listens to appreciate it. It would be great if you gave them a new chance, they are quite special band. As others suggested, Vinushka live is great, but to recommend something else would say Tousei live ruclips.net/video/MA-zXhJBtNY/видео.html it's shorter and maybe more commercial or easier to digest to all kind of listeners.
There's no other band like Dir en grey. I hope I get to see at least one more reaction from the two of you to one of their more epic songs (preferably "The World of Mercy", "Macabre" or "Vinushka"). I would love to sponsor a song but that's about the money I have for a week to eat and drink :/
So a huge Thank You to the person who brought them on the channel so I can watch this one for free and to the two of you for the time and honest commentary!
Have a nice day!
Thanks so much for your kind and respectful comment. We've noted your recommendations and will definitely add to an upcoming Japanese Metal Saturday!! ✌🏽
You should do more DIR EN GREY. Kyo has a variety of vocal techniques, try Vinushka or Uroko (both Live). He is a great frontmen.
For Toshiya (Bass), he often changes his style and that makes him unique (but sometimes you might think he looks like someone).
Different strumming between two guitarists is often done in several Japanese bands, the ones I remember include DIR EN GREY and The Gazette.
And the last thing, if you search about Sinya (drum), he is said to be a drummer who creates unique patterns in every song.
I agree on the original video for this, that is why I sent the live one. There studio sound is a lot better. Them sounding like Korn might be why Johnathan Davis likes them so much lol thanks for checking it out!
Thanks for sponsoring the song, Bro!!
Hmm the problem here is the most recent youtube live of this song is there better technic for singing this song..
This is the old version but there is not enough air...
The only time i use the word "gnarly" when talking about growling is when i talk about kyo. His lows are so nasty
nice！
Dir en Grey is not a band you can grasp on a first listen especially since their all lives are a whole new experience even with the same song. There is so much to explore with them and it will not be for everyone. Their studio releases are not the same song as the lives but not because they are better or worse. Just different. I would love to see you guys dive in little more with them~
Obscure was my fave song from them when I first started to listen them in the early 2000 and it still has a spot for me but I don't think it would be the song to start with if someone asked me to introduce them.
Many rec Vinushka but I also think this one would be very good introduction piece for them. One of my favorite live concerts.
ruclips.net/video/Xb3WwNIIzwM/видео.html
Vinushka - ruclips.net/video/BVhAVHcu-r0/видео.html
Alot of people start with obscure which can make or break dir en grey for most. Especially the music video with its intentional shock value. I feel there are many songs that better represent the band and their sound, skill and uniqueness. A relatively new song schadenfreude would be one I would choose. - ruclips.net/video/VXnNfHXKsNI/видео.htmlsi=OklOzfS_t-GI-z97
Excellent - thank you for the suggestion!!
I did listen to this song but I couldn’t get past the high-pitched sound. I heard very few words; it was more like screaming and just bouncing around. I do agree that the guitar section was doing a great job of holding it together. My beats are charging, so I couldn’t hear what you were talking about in the mix. And I get what you mean, Jillian, about being wary of what you might see. I hear that some bands (not all) can be a little raunchy on stage. All-in-all, a great analysis today! 🎶 Cyd
Kyo, frontman, owner of a 5 octave voice, by the way, he has been singing like this for 30 years. But yeah, it's very scary. And the name of the group comes from the title of the novel "The Picture of Dorian Gray".
I always wonder where such mis-information comes from. Simply to feed my personal curiosity: Where did you read the band's name had anything to do with _The Picture of Dorian Gray_ ? I love that novel btw. but just to clear this up; according to numerous interviews the band took the name from a song by the band Lareine and mistranslated it. When they became aware of their mistake they were already too big to change it and now it's simply a name that means 'Dir en grey' the band. There is no other meaning behind it.
A fan of theirs told me about it on discord.
This song itself is not really where vocalist(Kyō) shines when it comes to singing. Plus he likes to experiment a lot with his voice when performing live, so it's quite often that he changes a style each time they perform.
He can actually hit about 5 octaves, if I remember correctly. Vinushka is a song I'd usually recommend to people who are getting into their music, live performance, of course. That one is for versatility, Un Deux is my personal favourite when it comes to singing itself. :)
Oh damn some DIRU good stuff
You should make a reaction to the live version of this DIR EN GREY songs. Links below.
The world of mercy
ruclips.net/video/Lj8Ls01Zmo8/видео.html
Vinushka
ruclips.net/video/BVhAVHcu-r0/видео.html
Dreambox
ruclips.net/video/JPkFbro1_14/видео.htmlsi=3QBUE9obmvg4B7f3
Thanks for these suggestions!!
Please actually, yes please react to more dir en grey ;o ;
I have tried to get into them before but their frontman scares the living daylight out of me 😱
Have a listen to Dir en Grey- Uroko
The video is best
We've heard it's an intense video!
Go listen to The Final
I'll echo other comment and say this isn't a great song to start Dir En Grey with (while Obscure not awful, I'd say its music video sort of the best version if only of sheer shock value)
I don't believe you liked the chorus with the singing vocal!
Just don't believe you....
You facial expression hinted me : shit this sound awful, dang...but I took the money and now I better come up with something :D
Dude, I know that labels pay you money lol
Huh? This couldn't be farther from the truth.
Ur not shure about anything. No madd. Ya. . Corn sucks. You think when my grandpa. Dropping bombs on Germany. I love ya. Damn. 19 years. . I hVe no clue for him.. my heart goes out to anyone. That. Got hurt by war. I think. If i had a chance. To ask. Him . How he felt. Kill people. I think. . me. As a child. His heart 💔 gave up. .
You doing ok, Scott?
Better I guess. Kinda had a nervous breakdown. I'm sorry 😔. Just going thru a rough patch. And it sucks. Getting help. Tnx for being kind. Much lv always. Peace 🕊️.