Heatsink has 25% efficiency while the weapon is "active", and 100% efficiency when youre locked out. so rather than 10% over 3 seconds, its more like 2.5% over 3 seconds and only 10% over 3 seconds if you let yourself get locked out. Practically, this means ~19 seconds of activated use from cranial gorunding, ~17.5s with heatsink and ~15.3s at base but a ~10s lockout time with cranial and ~7.5s lockout time with heatsink
Low cut upwards from dominant side to cut downward from non dominant side is a nice double-attack combo I occasionally use in HEMA. Nice to see it in a game
Dev actually mentioned that they took a lot of inspiration from HEMA references when animating the movesets for both the Relic Blade and the Two Handed Force Sword in a blog post the other day.
@ Yeah I saw that. Would be nice to get some of the more complex stuff, but I imagine it’s hard to animate in a locked first person (since so much of it requires passing footwork and thus a change in “body direction”. It the tide games we’re always shoulders squared front.
Looks like the power long swords have the more complicated combo and I love to see that! It’s always fun to figure out which combo feel the best for myself and this weapon reminds me of the Bret longsword from VT2
@@Reginald-sc9tk thanks ! Yeah it’s my fav class on pc, i have around 300 hours or so Tried playing on controller yesterday to prepare for ps5 release and was surprised how well this game plays on a controller if you turn off aim assist 😊
I am genuily impressed with FS's design here, these are very quality weapons and feel like an addition to the arsenal while not being overwhelmingly better.
Jsat is a cool guy and is very fun to play with. Some of the stuff I've seen him pull off is pretty wild. Thanks Cash! Maybe we'll get one or two rounds in sometime soon after patch day.
It's rather sad that Fatshark had no courage to to remove that cooldown limitation from Perfect Block blessings. Guys you added stuff like Agile to the game and you gutted on the release a conditional blessing which requires a block? What are you smoking Sweden? That attack speed buff should be 20% last few seconds longer, and have NO cooldown.
For freaking real. I still remember when the Shock Maul's blocking stun blessing was nerfed to get a 3-second cooldown. With all the other egregious BS, I couldn't believe they prioritized that change.
@@Reginald-sc9tk from what I do know about vermintide 2 in general from talking with some good players, swift slaying is so good in vermintide 2 that it crowds out all other blessings for meele weapons, excluding opportunists for shields, but thats only for hitting specific breakpoints below modded
@@ziyanbatada7753 But comparing that to 20% attack speed on perfect block is very dishonest. Swift slaying triggers on crit which just happens for free when you attack. Perfect block is something that barely ever happens and is based on skill. Making it an attack speed buff is all wrong anyway, that makes no sense. It should be a boost to your next swing within the next few seconds that makes it dash-tier, a guaranteed super-crit.
@@Ranxior55 Honestly I think what makes me sad about DT not being more popular has more to do with how much cooler it'd be if DT had a bigger impact on the gaming industry. Imagine if it was huge and people were like MORE MELEE IN GAMES. I would be so happy.
These greatswords would have been perfect weapons for Fatshark to add a Horde Clear vs Single-Target stance system, where you can fluidly swap between either stances to get access to the horde clear or single-target attacks/animations. I think it's a huge missed opportunity seeing how the only difference between the two Relic Swords is the order of attack animations, so you have to pick which you want to prioritize and still use block-cancel to reset the attack chain. With a stance system, you would never need to block-cancel because you can just change stances while you're attacking. And the best part is, the major work of having different attack animations for horde clear vs single-target damage is already in the game, so Fatshark would only need to separate it out. Maybe one day....
Wouldn't that just make it too simple and easy?(Also possibly convoluted) Attack patterns are honestly way more fun,and rewarding then just pressing a button
It's really great to you getting an early look into the new update. I really hope the mechanic of seamlessly powering up the relic blades gets added to some of the other power weapons, most notably the Illisi force sword and Ogryn's Paul.
great video as always reginald - Some things I want to add about the MKII, Once you get used to the MKII combos not only are they more interesting and fun, but I honestly think it performs better. The "overhead" or clunkyness of having to go into your other moves to hit your combos is made up for by the increased killing power i find it has due to better hits/combos once in the flow, and the push attack helps your saftey SO MUCH. Push attack is really easy to spam bc of its great stamina management and base stamina. It has good stagger and dmg, and it chains right into the sideways heavys. It sweeaps everything in front of you and I find it helps shut down packs of ragers etc making the weapon feel much safer in practice once you start using the PA a lot over the MK X in dense mixed hordes. I run the MK II with a stam curio + 3 stamina regen perks and I was trying 3x block efficiency as well like I would run on a devil claw parry build and it felt really good. It helps in those "oh shit" situations noticeably to block and still have stamina to push attack and start my combo. I was considering dropping the 15% toughness to all in stamina perks and try sprint efficiency as well, which might help the weapons mobility a tiny bit when kiting (speed still sucks tho i know) So I'm a big MKII stan, after messing with both I think its the higher performing mark as well when used properly.
Damn, this looks awesome! It was cool to see you with jsat and crew in the Havoc trailer too. The biggest issue I see with this weapon is they made the numbers too low on most of the new blessings so there's just no incentive to use them. Several of those have interesting concepts, but the buffs and uptime on them are too low to bother taking over the "boring" stuff like Rampage. Those niche blessings should be very impactful when they're active because they can't beat the uptime and basic utility of things like Rampage and Wrath.
Great video man, might I just suggest something for future videos? it would really help viewers follow the explanations better if you had the icons on screen when you're talking about the combo loops or the talents you mention in the video. kinda like what you did in the section where you talk about the recommended blessings. it would really help to follow if we could see the attack pattern icons when you say things like Light 1 loop into Heavy 3 or something. I know it's more work when editing but I feel like it really adds to the quality of the explanations. keep up the good content.
Yes - I actually have a mod that solves this problem entirely. UNFORTUNATELY it did not work for these new weapons and I didn't have time for a bespoke solution. In future videos its my game plan.
@@Reginald-sc9tk awesome man. it would also help to put the talents on screen when you recommend a specific talent for certain weapon patterns, like how you did with the blessings.
5:05 Hey homie, I'm in the Psykhanium testing Blessings. Energy Leakage works while the weapon is off. You can see the buff stack to 4 and the stacks stay when you deactivate the weapon or if you let it overheat. Edit: 5 stacks at 90%+
One note: Movement tech. There is a very slight movement boost during the throost (YT blocks that word, I hate YT). If you chain throost attack into slide to cancel the end lag with very good timing you move very slightly faster, at least to my informal testing. It's not really worth much but it is fun & I think optimal. Need to test a bit more. This weapon is enough to just barely knock my "everything built around Agile on the dueling sword dodge eternal" & "that but blazing-faithful fury crit" builds off to the sideline, or at least an equal. I truly love this thing, it gives me the feeling of the Bret longsword. It certainly adds a new option with two great movesets for fun. I just wish the Mk XIIIg chainsword was just a little stronger, & maybe some minor improvements on the Eviscerator. Vet powersword does REALLY need this change, I want to love it but can't due to how it works as of now.
The other power swords need to function like this. It feels so lame to activate it only for it to last like 1 swing. Is there any quality of life coming with this update? Some of the mod stuff with stats and infinite levels displayed maybe? So much of the games functionality is obfuscated. Would be nice to see a lot of the mods part of the official game.
What are you even doing using a power sword without power cycler? It let's you chain +3 powered swings , that combined with chain strikes makes the power sword pretty op
Power cycler should've been baked into the weapon itself a long time ago as it's quite unreasonable to not always put that on one of the slots. Even with full power cycler though, it's tedious as all hell to use the power sword as is, with that slowdown/selfstagger on activation.
@@Cold_Cactus Like others said, it should be the default, like these new weapons. Power cycler should just extend it further. As it is now even with cycler they still aren't top tier melee weapons.
Hey Reg! I’ve been popping in since your first HD2 tutorials (and sending them to my friends who aren’t as “tactical” as I am) and it’s awesome that you’re doing darktide stuff, because I just bought it for PS5! I know it’s a tad selfish but…could you maybe do an eviscerator tutorial? I’m trying to run a flamer/eviscerator build and I’m obviously very new. Either way, great video! Thanks for the tips 🙏🏻
Hello! Thanks much. Evis is on my list along with thammer. Short version is rampage+wrath. Mk15 horde clear is light3x block cancel. Mk3 is heavy light repeating
God damn, dude! You just get me. Like fundamentally. When you went on talking about the cool factor of swing patterns, I was like: "Damn! This mothafucka don't MISS!"
You can pretty much OS crusher with the sprint heavy attacks But you need to be able to gain some distance before the stance showing so you cant really spam this but one crusher at the end of an hallway is gonna be a gonner
Could Overload blessing work by deliberately using a low heat management blade and being an aoe machine? I don't know how large or powerful the explosion is and I guess it also depends on how long the lockout is? I haven't had a chance to play with it yet or even in the meat grinder so... If the lockout isn't long, I could see using a low heat management blade to just be an aoe machine not to mention some cc, too?
Yo! Awesome video. Really excited to try the new Relic Blades. I was curious though if you had a recommended Zealot Build for the sword, Talent wise that is. If you do then that'd be awesome as I am curious what synergizes with it well.
Ok so personally I enjoy cranial and heatsink or whatever perk gives you heat cooldown when you hit headshots or crits. It existends the time a lot for heat usage and decrees cooldown time with both
Would you ever consider doing full build guides for weapons like this? I plan to run one of these on my Zealot but I would rather hear from someone who clearly knows what they're talking about and has done the math like you, regarding skill trees and full weapon loadouts, compared to some random person on Reddit
Thinking about this things empowered mode i think a similar thing could work for (besides the vets munitorum) chain weapons you activate it and once the bar is full the chain weapon then stalls leaving you with a dull boink stick until the motor can be started again BUT that would make chain weapons effectively the same style of weapon with the same usage that the power swords have I guess so we are stuck with one empowered single target attack
Hey Reg just a quick question, that dodge bar you have, is that a mod? Or a new QOL feature coming with the update?? Great video as always, always fun to learn new tips and tricks to get better. 👍🏻
Quick question, activating the special counts as block? Or maybe as parry? (You can parry overheads but can’t block them) Does it count as a normal block or does the block have any special properties? How long is the block window?
Wait I'm totally blanking out here on the block mechanic... there is one right? How is blocking using this greatsword? I really want to be able to block hits instead of constantly dodge with this... It just fits the power fantasy so well to block a hit then do a counter attack...
How are you performing the stab after the block reliably? I was doing it in the meat grinder a second ago by accident, but now when I push attack and light attack right after, it just goes into L2
Oooo found instruction on Steam guide, you hold block for your push and the attack comes after. This is fun, just need to remember what combo piece I'm on for Crushers. Definitely feels like this either needs a buff to 3 hit them, or the dumb duelist sword needs a nerf. I am killing crushers with Fury of the Faithful's super crit reliably, but when 4-5 spawn, Dueling sword just one shots all of them, and this thing is a bit of a snore. Loving the weapon though.
Yes, Dueling sword is OP. Insanely OP. Its actually diseased. People keep judging other weapons by it as the context which is insane. The highest mobility weapon in the game should also not have the best damage output into all targets. Easy crusher oneshots are bad for the game as well. The reality is before DS4 was buffed into the stratosphere the most powerful weapons in the game could at best 2 tap (power sword 6 excluded). So 2H PS is in a good spot and is a fun weapon.
Oh dude I didnt even know they added these! Im gonna go try this asap! Was getting kinda tired of my heavy evisc build I been running for ages haha xD Edit: odd I just logged on the game and don't see the weapons anywhere? Nor do I see the new gameplay mode havoc. Am I missing something? According to steam my games up to date.
Sorry for sorta jukin' ya bro. But yea I have the unique privilege of early "influencer" (lol) access and am also a play tester so I was able to get this all together for everyone the day before release.
What kinda build is most effective for these ? I see you using Momentum like I do but I feel like it lacks the DPS potential of Martyrdom and survivability of crit builds . Any specific talents i need to use ?
Martyrdom is peak for damage. Crit doesn't work that well but I've done it. Inexorable is reliable and survivable. Take dodge toughness right side and dodge DR.
Been waiting for a 2h sword for a while... looks great though I'm a little sad there's no crit blessings😢. Thanks for the detailed overview though, GG.
I am not using lossless, the 72 FPS cap was in order to ensure my rig didn't have any stutters while recording for fatshark. Though frankly I never dip below 100 frames when I play normally.
@@Reginald-sc9tk I take your word for it, it's just not something I'd be interested in running. But I will say I agree, that Inquisitorial "I" on the mark X looks based. Did you check to see if there are any hidden finesse stats on it like the crusher's push attack?
Yea, but its not hard to rebuild them AND you can build them simply by swinging into any target without missing. Even the same crusher over and over. While the crit effect happens _based on random critd_. Unless running blazing piety your crit rate is going to not be worth mentioning on this weapon.
Man someone at Fatshark really loves making bad "on perfect block" blessings don't they. Shame too, cause I really like the idea, and wish there were more mechanics that incentivized blocking. I feel the duration of just 3 seconds is really what kills it. Overall though, this and the Psyker sword are a fantastic direction for the weapon design in this game, really hope to see more like it.
I can't be the only scrub who thinks melee uppercuts look cool as hell but are too cumbersome to use effectively. You have to get so precise with the spacing to land weakspot hits without catching a torso instead. Idk, I assume I just need to git gud.
The first one of these I bought I got all 80s except for a 60 in mobility. Very lucky for a first buy. Not a huge deal if you have millions of plastseel.
wow Counterattack is literally the worst blessing they've ever put in this game. I completely disagree with you calling it B tier, this is complete ass. 10% attack speed for THREE seconds every 8 seconds on a perfect block. You get a bonus that a talent can give you for T H R E E seconds, which can only trigger every 8 seconds, on a very rare trigger condition. This is not B tier. This is a waste of a blessing slot. This is doing absolutely nothing. Fatshark, fire whoever made this, this is completely inexcusable and they shouldn't be allowed to balance a video game ever again.
I love the new swords. They are fun to use and perform quite well. On a critical, personal level tough, i find it struggles to find its niche. Its personality so to speak. At times it feels like a weak Thunder hammer. At other times like an unwieldy Tigris Chainsword. It feels too slow for what it is and too weak compared to the weapons it seems to be competing with. Probably just me, but hey, someone here might correct me and send me on the right path with this beauty.
Its actually a top performer only weaker at heavy elites busting than the thammers and Eviscerators but better into light elites and generally a real horde anniholator. The thammsr suffers into hordes and lighter elites. Ds4 and vet powersword are both outliers and shouldn't be considered as part of the comparison which is why people are having a hard time.
@Reginald-sc9tk Considering i use shock and awe on my thunder hammer i never felt it was weaker on hordes, quite the opposite, actually. That being said, maybe I've always used it wrong because of that. I still get your point, but i feel curious. Since shock and awe transforms the thunder hammer into an absolute all-around beast on damnation or heresy, is it a higher level of play thing? Edit : A few typos and the realization that you do not have a good relationship history with the Hammer based on your older vids... Its actually my favorite (The Crucis that is, i freakin hate ironhelm :P). This is interesting. I'll check em' out. I really do wonder now if its truly shock and awe that makes the damn thing so effective. For reference my Crucis uses: 25% on both unyielding and carapace Shock and awe (Duh) :P And Headtaker. Anything dumb enough to get near gets swatted and if not dead gets staggered or outright knocked down. Anything bigger gets the special. The things a work of art.
@@mrpatate12345678 Yeah - so. The thammer is actually my second favorite weapon after the chain axe. The issue with it is that, objectively, it sucks. Or did. It still kinda does. Shock & Awe does not change that. ALL shock and awe does is allow the weapon to cleave more effectively. But so does headtaker. However the weapon has a _cleave damage cap_ of like 5 guys. At best you're killing 2ish per swing in most cases regardless of how many you hit.
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Heatsink has 25% efficiency while the weapon is "active", and 100% efficiency when youre locked out. so rather than 10% over 3 seconds, its more like 2.5% over 3 seconds and only 10% over 3 seconds if you let yourself get locked out. Practically, this means ~19 seconds of activated use from cranial gorunding, ~17.5s with heatsink and ~15.3s at base but a ~10s lockout time with cranial and ~7.5s lockout time with heatsink
My guy dropping math.
Those are certanly words that mean something
Hmm yes... quite...
I'm very happy for you, or very sad that it happened, whichever one is relevant here.
@Reginald-sc9tk how do you have these early? Did the release while I was asleep? Because I was under the impression we would be getting them the 3rd?
Uh... does that mean you like Heatsink more or less then Cranial Grounding? Me no math so good.
Grail knight users are gonna have a field day with these new swords.
Very true.
Perish, fiend !
HEART BODY AND SOUL
absolutely
That’s me, I was the grail knight main
Low cut upwards from dominant side to cut downward from non dominant side is a nice double-attack combo I occasionally use in HEMA. Nice to see it in a game
Dev actually mentioned that they took a lot of inspiration from HEMA references when animating the movesets for both the Relic Blade and the Two Handed Force Sword in a blog post the other day.
@ Yeah I saw that. Would be nice to get some of the more complex stuff, but I imagine it’s hard to animate in a locked first person (since so much of it requires passing footwork and thus a change in “body direction”. It the tide games we’re always shoulders squared front.
@@fluffrier I could tell! It felt much more trying to theme after real historic HEMA. Dev did amazing on this set.
Looks like the power long swords have the more complicated combo and I love to see that! It’s always fun to figure out which combo feel the best for myself and this weapon reminds me of the Bret longsword from VT2
I'm a huge fan of the in depth combos as well
That was my favourite weapon the moment it was added to vermintide, can't wait to play with these in tertium
and in this game, there wont be the problem of a generalist meele weapon on a double-meele class
@@ziyanbatada7753 Exactly, at least in VT2 you can use the longsword on other subclasses. Pairs really well with Aunt Bessie I find
Wow, this one looks very good, gonna be my fav weapon for Zealot probably
Can’t wait for the ps5 release tomorrow !!
Thanks for swinging bye! I hope you have a lot of fun on Zealot, its a great class to play and I think it plays well on console too.
@@Reginald-sc9tk thanks ! Yeah it’s my fav class on pc, i have around 300 hours or so
Tried playing on controller yesterday to prepare for ps5 release and was surprised how well this game plays on a controller if you turn off aim assist 😊
I am genuily impressed with FS's design here, these are very quality weapons and feel like an addition to the arsenal while not being overwhelmingly better.
Now we just need a Power Halberd
Haha!! Omg
Chainglaive
yes
It's Kruber time!
@@Eravel These are dark times, Kroobah
Looks like it's goodbye to my beloved eviscerator
buff eviscerator.
just mod the game so that you can duel wield relic blade and heavy eviscerator
That's cool that you get to play with jsat. His tutorial guides upped my VT2 skills tons. Nice review, Reginald.
Jsat is a cool guy and is very fun to play with. Some of the stuff I've seen him pull off is pretty wild. Thanks Cash! Maybe we'll get one or two rounds in sometime soon after patch day.
It's rather sad that Fatshark had no courage to to remove that cooldown limitation from Perfect Block blessings. Guys you added stuff like Agile to the game and you gutted on the release a conditional blessing which requires a block? What are you smoking Sweden? That attack speed buff should be 20% last few seconds longer, and have NO cooldown.
For freaking real. I still remember when the Shock Maul's blocking stun blessing was nerfed to get a 3-second cooldown. With all the other egregious BS, I couldn't believe they prioritized that change.
I dunno man, swift slaying wasn't good for VT2. But I think the blessing IS too weak.
@@Reginald-sc9tk from what I do know about vermintide 2 in general from talking with some good players, swift slaying is so good in vermintide 2 that it crowds out all other blessings for meele weapons, excluding opportunists for shields, but thats only for hitting specific breakpoints below modded
@@ziyanbatada7753 Thrust has the same problem in DT. Thank god its not on any of the weapons.
@@ziyanbatada7753 But comparing that to 20% attack speed on perfect block is very dishonest. Swift slaying triggers on crit which just happens for free when you attack. Perfect block is something that barely ever happens and is based on skill.
Making it an attack speed buff is all wrong anyway, that makes no sense. It should be a boost to your next swing within the next few seconds that makes it dash-tier, a guaranteed super-crit.
Holy shit, I am saving the mats now, so glad you Dropped this Reggie. ❤
Glad to help! Its nice that I finally get to be teaser trailer guy.
@@Reginald-sc9tk You deserve it so much. Your content is next level good. Too bad Darktide isn't a more popular game
@@Ranxior55 Honestly I think what makes me sad about DT not being more popular has more to do with how much cooler it'd be if DT had a bigger impact on the gaming industry. Imagine if it was huge and people were like MORE MELEE IN GAMES. I would be so happy.
These greatswords would have been perfect weapons for Fatshark to add a Horde Clear vs Single-Target stance system, where you can fluidly swap between either stances to get access to the horde clear or single-target attacks/animations.
I think it's a huge missed opportunity seeing how the only difference between the two Relic Swords is the order of attack animations, so you have to pick which you want to prioritize and still use block-cancel to reset the attack chain. With a stance system, you would never need to block-cancel because you can just change stances while you're attacking. And the best part is, the major work of having different attack animations for horde clear vs single-target damage is already in the game, so Fatshark would only need to separate it out. Maybe one day....
I assume it's not a thing to keep gameplay simple, fluid and fast.
Nah, that's too much work, comissary skins require more work
Wouldn't that just make it too simple and easy?(Also possibly convoluted) Attack patterns are honestly way more fun,and rewarding then just pressing a button
It's really great to you getting an early look into the new update. I really hope the mechanic of seamlessly powering up the relic blades gets added to some of the other power weapons, most notably the Illisi force sword and Ogryn's Paul.
Other weapons need in-chain activation so badly. Its an amazing mechanic.
great video as always reginald - Some things I want to add about the MKII, Once you get used to the MKII combos not only are they more interesting and fun, but I honestly think it performs better. The "overhead" or clunkyness of having to go into your other moves to hit your combos is made up for by the increased killing power i find it has due to better hits/combos once in the flow, and the push attack helps your saftey SO MUCH.
Push attack is really easy to spam bc of its great stamina management and base stamina. It has good stagger and dmg, and it chains right into the sideways heavys. It sweeaps everything in front of you and I find it helps shut down packs of ragers etc making the weapon feel much safer in practice once you start using the PA a lot over the MK X in dense mixed hordes. I run the MK II with a stam curio + 3 stamina regen perks and I was trying 3x block efficiency as well like I would run on a devil claw parry build and it felt really good. It helps in those "oh shit" situations noticeably to block and still have stamina to push attack and start my combo. I was considering dropping the 15% toughness to all in stamina perks and try sprint efficiency as well, which might help the weapons mobility a tiny bit when kiting (speed still sucks tho i know)
So I'm a big MKII stan, after messing with both I think its the higher performing mark as well when used properly.
*Happy Crusader noises*
Damn, this looks awesome! It was cool to see you with jsat and crew in the Havoc trailer too.
The biggest issue I see with this weapon is they made the numbers too low on most of the new blessings so there's just no incentive to use them. Several of those have interesting concepts, but the buffs and uptime on them are too low to bother taking over the "boring" stuff like Rampage. Those niche blessings should be very impactful when they're active because they can't beat the uptime and basic utility of things like Rampage and Wrath.
I completely agree. Maybe we'll get tweaks later.
Great video man, might I just suggest something for future videos? it would really help viewers follow the explanations better if you had the icons on screen when you're talking about the combo loops or the talents you mention in the video. kinda like what you did in the section where you talk about the recommended blessings. it would really help to follow if we could see the attack pattern icons when you say things like Light 1 loop into Heavy 3 or something.
I know it's more work when editing but I feel like it really adds to the quality of the explanations.
keep up the good content.
Yes - I actually have a mod that solves this problem entirely. UNFORTUNATELY it did not work for these new weapons and I didn't have time for a bespoke solution. In future videos its my game plan.
@@Reginald-sc9tk awesome man. it would also help to put the talents on screen when you recommend a specific talent for certain weapon patterns, like how you did with the blessings.
@@Reginald-sc9tkthe famous orgynomicon has the best understandable and comprehensive diagram on melee moveset i've seen
Just played my first games with this thing and it’s an absolute blast
I have been waiting for this! This week is gonna be awesome!
It is! Its a really fun weapon. I mighta been wrong on Wrath. It might be top tier, try it.
Excellent video! I was going to test them out by myself, but curiosity got the better of me, I can't wait to try these bad boys out
They're very very fun weapons.
The complex combos makes me think of the pickaxes for ogryns, very interesting and powerful
they should generally do all weapons with the toggle mechanic, I cant take it to spam special for chain blade or hammer
Thank you for the breakdown! A huge help!
I hope the Greater Demon of Error 3001 will let me in and allow me to play tomorrow...
That heat mechanic needs to definitely come to the vets power sword. Kind of disappointed that it is class locked to zealot....
I hope we see that heat mechanic on vet power swords too. Vet PS is in an unhealthy place.
5:05 Hey homie, I'm in the Psykhanium testing Blessings. Energy Leakage works while the weapon is off. You can see the buff stack to 4 and the stacks stay when you deactivate the weapon or if you let it overheat.
Edit: 5 stacks at 90%+
oh very interesting.
The fact i can use it like a lance and charge big bad chaos creatures will make me feel like a Grail Knight xD
One note: Movement tech.
There is a very slight movement boost during the throost (YT blocks that word, I hate YT). If you chain throost attack into slide to cancel the end lag with very good timing you move very slightly faster, at least to my informal testing. It's not really worth much but it is fun & I think optimal. Need to test a bit more.
This weapon is enough to just barely knock my "everything built around Agile on the dueling sword dodge eternal" & "that but blazing-faithful fury crit" builds off to the sideline, or at least an equal. I truly love this thing, it gives me the feeling of the Bret longsword. It certainly adds a new option with two great movesets for fun.
I just wish the Mk XIIIg chainsword was just a little stronger, & maybe some minor improvements on the Eviscerator. Vet powersword does REALLY need this change, I want to love it but can't due to how it works as of now.
Finally a proper sword.
Wrath, my beloved blessing, is the best for it just like my current sword.
Its useable, and good on havoc. But cranial + rampage is the best general performance on non havoc
@Mamox45 Thanks for clearing that up. Yeah Wrath is my go-to for most weapons that have it but this one needs your pick more unless on Havoc.
The other power swords need to function like this. It feels so lame to activate it only for it to last like 1 swing.
Is there any quality of life coming with this update? Some of the mod stuff with stats and infinite levels displayed maybe? So much of the games functionality is obfuscated. Would be nice to see a lot of the mods part of the official game.
Theres a blessing for powersword that lets you swing multiple times per activation.
I haven't read the whole patch notes yet. Can't say for sure.
What are you even doing using a power sword without power cycler? It let's you chain +3 powered swings , that combined with chain strikes makes the power sword pretty op
Power cycler should've been baked into the weapon itself a long time ago as it's quite unreasonable to not always put that on one of the slots.
Even with full power cycler though, it's tedious as all hell to use the power sword as is, with that slowdown/selfstagger on activation.
@@Cold_Cactus Like others said, it should be the default, like these new weapons. Power cycler should just extend it further. As it is now even with cycler they still aren't top tier melee weapons.
The sword isn't useless when unpowered! That brings tears to my eyes cause it seemed like the developers forgot these are also SWORDS
I love swinging it
FINALLY, POWER SWORDS FOR ZEALOT
Hey Reg! I’ve been popping in since your first HD2 tutorials (and sending them to my friends who aren’t as “tactical” as I am) and it’s awesome that you’re doing darktide stuff, because I just bought it for PS5!
I know it’s a tad selfish but…could you maybe do an eviscerator tutorial? I’m trying to run a flamer/eviscerator build and I’m obviously very new. Either way, great video! Thanks for the tips 🙏🏻
Hello! Thanks much. Evis is on my list along with thammer.
Short version is rampage+wrath. Mk15 horde clear is light3x block cancel.
Mk3 is heavy light repeating
God damn, dude! You just get me. Like fundamentally. When you went on talking about the cool factor of swing patterns, I was like: "Damn! This mothafucka don't MISS!"
You can pretty much OS crusher with the sprint heavy attacks
But you need to be able to gain some distance before the stance showing so you cant really spam this but one crusher at the end of an hallway is gonna be a gonner
dodge slide back on MK2 for easy stab
@Reginald-sc9tk didn't tried MK2 yet
@@adrianduveau7496 maybe can do it on MkX not sure.
You can block cancel the 3rd light attack on the mk10 makes it really good against hordes.
i haven't played zealot in forever but i have to drop psyker to main this weapon it just feels so right
That things are a beast against hordes.
Could Overload blessing work by deliberately using a low heat management blade and being an aoe machine? I don't know how large or powerful the explosion is and I guess it also depends on how long the lockout is? I haven't had a chance to play with it yet or even in the meat grinder so... If the lockout isn't long, I could see using a low heat management blade to just be an aoe machine not to mention some cc, too?
I’ll leave the original up, but you did address this point later that the aoe is weak and small.
Yo! Awesome video. Really excited to try the new Relic Blades. I was curious though if you had a recommended Zealot Build for the sword, Talent wise that is. If you do then that'd be awesome as I am curious what synergizes with it well.
I think it works on most common builds but I ran it most often with top right dodge toughness and dogs DR into FotF across into Inexorable keystone.
Ok so personally I enjoy cranial and heatsink or whatever perk gives you heat cooldown when you hit headshots or crits. It existends the time a lot for heat usage and decrees cooldown time with both
Thank you for these.
Happy to do it.
I think this is gonna make me play Zealot now
How do you activate that powerwave people are using to clear hordes?
Thats on the force sword not the power sword. Psyker specific.
I can’t wait to get home and play with this
Basically running a charging berserker with a two hand power sword and bolt pistol is so satisfying
Yes
Dammit, now I wish I wasn't busy tomorrow. Seeing all this got me back in my crusading mood =3=
Would you ever consider doing full build guides for weapons like this? I plan to run one of these on my Zealot but I would rather hear from someone who clearly knows what they're talking about and has done the math like you, regarding skill trees and full weapon loadouts, compared to some random person on Reddit
Yup! Soon!
@@Reginald-sc9tk Hell yeah, that's a subscription well deserved then! I'll be looking forward to it!
Thinking about this things empowered mode i think a similar thing could work for (besides the vets munitorum) chain weapons
you activate it and once the bar is full the chain weapon then stalls leaving you with a dull boink stick until the motor can be started again BUT that would make chain weapons effectively the same style of weapon with the same usage that the power swords have I guess so we are stuck with one empowered single target attack
Due to its cleave potential, I'd recommend the blessing that increases cleave on crit and use zealots dash, so you get a guaranteed crit
80% cleave only on crit vs 250% cleave on repeated hit
@Reginald-sc9tk but combine them with a transcendent weapon 😄
If I may ask, what is the song at 10:50?
Sorry friend its AI Sloppa. I plan to talk about it some time 'cause its an interesting subject.
@@Reginald-sc9tk Ah I see, no worries! Thank you for responding :)
Hey Reg just a quick question, that dodge bar you have, is that a mod? Or a new QOL feature coming with the update??
Great video as always, always fun to learn new tips and tricks to get better. 👍🏻
I wish it was QOL feature. Its a mod called dodge counter. I usually use Numeric UI.
I'm so excited.
Quick question, activating the special counts as block? Or maybe as parry? (You can parry overheads but can’t block them) Does it count as a normal block or does the block have any special properties? How long is the block window?
Its a block, im not sure about other properties. I'd need to look at the code but I didn't have access.
using the relic blade makes me feel lile an astartes more than playing SM2, DTs' (and VT2) melee gameplay is just unparalleled
Mk10 L3 has no cleave, except you can bbq skewer 3 light enemies with it.
it has limited cleave. You can get a few guys especially with cleave enhancements from wrath. But its not like....great.
@ ye ik ik, I actually think it’s kinda funny n cool to be able to skewer enemies with it even though it doesn’t have a massive impact
It would’ve been cool to see something like perfect strike on this weapon
13:45 'Tis only a flesh wound, we'll call it a draw
Wait I'm totally blanking out here on the block mechanic... there is one right? How is blocking using this greatsword? I really want to be able to block hits instead of constantly dodge with this... It just fits the power fantasy so well to block a hit then do a counter attack...
yea, block exists. I use it sometimes.
Whoa whoa whoa, sprint attacks? Was that always a thing?
not on every weapon. Maybe just a few.
How are you performing the stab after the block reliably? I was doing it in the meat grinder a second ago by accident, but now when I push attack and light attack right after, it just goes into L2
Oooo found instruction on Steam guide, you hold block for your push and the attack comes after. This is fun, just need to remember what combo piece I'm on for Crushers. Definitely feels like this either needs a buff to 3 hit them, or the dumb duelist sword needs a nerf. I am killing crushers with Fury of the Faithful's super crit reliably, but when 4-5 spawn, Dueling sword just one shots all of them, and this thing is a bit of a snore. Loving the weapon though.
Yes, Dueling sword is OP. Insanely OP. Its actually diseased. People keep judging other weapons by it as the context which is insane. The highest mobility weapon in the game should also not have the best damage output into all targets. Easy crusher oneshots are bad for the game as well. The reality is before DS4 was buffed into the stratosphere the most powerful weapons in the game could at best 2 tap (power sword 6 excluded). So 2H PS is in a good spot and is a fun weapon.
I am so keen for this weapon but I'm afraid I wont be able to go back from the sprint and dodge of the Duelling sword!
And the DS's outsized carapace damage of course :P
@@Reginald-sc9tk Absolutely! Buuut the two handed sword definitely wins on coolness so...
I cant believe every class aside from vet got some sick new weapons this update
Its not like vet hasn't been in the reverse position.
Man. I didn't even know that you can chain heavy and light to combo like that. I assumed they always that with their respective first attack.
Do you have a havoc mode video coming out?
Yup! It'll be out later this evening however, its a big upload.
@@Reginald-sc9tk Can't wait!
Oh dude I didnt even know they added these! Im gonna go try this asap! Was getting kinda tired of my heavy evisc build I been running for ages haha xD
Edit: odd I just logged on the game and don't see the weapons anywhere? Nor do I see the new gameplay mode havoc. Am I missing something? According to steam my games up to date.
Read the steam updates my dude. The update comes out tomorrow, this dude is a play tester
@Nereosis16 haha didn't even see that 😅 😂 makes sense lmao.
Sorry for sorta jukin' ya bro. But yea I have the unique privilege of early "influencer" (lol) access and am also a play tester so I was able to get this all together for everyone the day before release.
@@Reginald-sc9tk haha don't sweat it mate, I just need to pay more bloody attention 🤣
Now I can truly cosplay as Tavish Finnegan DeGroot.
What kinda build is most effective for these ? I see you using Momentum like I do but I feel like it lacks the DPS potential of Martyrdom and survivability of crit builds . Any specific talents i need to use ?
Martyrdom is peak for damage. Crit doesn't work that well but I've done it. Inexorable is reliable and survivable. Take dodge toughness right side and dodge DR.
Been waiting for a 2h sword for a while... looks great though I'm a little sad there's no crit blessings😢. Thanks for the detailed overview though, GG.
great man...apreciatte you doing this ahead of update launch...
i.....however, have a question regarding your 72fps cap...are you using Lossless FG?
I am not using lossless, the 72 FPS cap was in order to ensure my rig didn't have any stutters while recording for fatshark. Though frankly I never dip below 100 frames when I play normally.
@@Reginald-sc9tk oh got it...once again, thanks for the video and waiting for your build guides based on those swords!
I love this weapon... And that breaks my heart. I've been loyal to my eviscerator MkIII since I got it and now... The relic blade is stealing me away
The Relic blade needs an Emperor's Champion Black Sword inspired skin.
Yes
Hey that dodge bar looks really nice, is it a mod or an updated UI setting?
Its a mod called dodge counter. I want it as a base game function
@ completely agree, and ty :)
How about skiill build? Martry?
I've used this weapon with every build. Its just a good weapon.
Can you show us the martyrdom build you tested with? :) 🙏 @@Reginald-sc9tk
How do I activate the relic sword? 😅
Weapon special
If you’re on console it should be R3/RE, however, I don’t know what the button is on PC
@@idrinkalienmilk3948 I don't either because I have it rebound to a mouse button.
I'm just sad Vet didn't get this because I'm a Vet main. I hope Vet gets some really cool melee weapons in future. Maybe a 2h Power Axe?
I feel veteran will be more 1h melee and more gun focused. A power axe or a doublehanded chain axe is something xou'd see on zealot
2 handed weapons definitely seem exclusive to zealot, though it's funny since the ogyrn should be getting one as well
we can finally yell BY THE POWER OF GRAY SKULL
how do u have the dodge bar displayed ?
Mod
Wait is this sword not in the game? Thought it was but it looks cool, can't wait to play Darktide tomorrow.
Drops tomorrow friend.
I was wondering what function they would serve; stagger stick does make sense, I guess.
They're absolute DPS machines. But they also have great stagger into elites before they kill them.
@@Reginald-sc9tk I take your word for it, it's just not something I'd be interested in running. But I will say I agree, that Inquisitorial "I" on the mark X looks based. Did you check to see if there are any hidden finesse stats on it like the crusher's push attack?
on Wrath vs. Devastating Strike... doesn't Wrath lose all stacks if you miss or power up?
Yea, but its not hard to rebuild them AND you can build them simply by swinging into any target without missing. Even the same crusher over and over.
While the crit effect happens _based on random critd_. Unless running blazing piety your crit rate is going to not be worth mentioning on this weapon.
Any build recommendations for using the relic blades?
Soooon
@Reginald-sc9tk hell yeah
What is that mod that counts ur dodges?
Dodge Counter.
Alternatively Numeric UI. Your choice.
Have you done a video going over your Hud settings?
Besides dodge counter mod my hud is default.
Man someone at Fatshark really loves making bad "on perfect block" blessings don't they. Shame too, cause I really like the idea, and wish there were more mechanics that incentivized blocking. I feel the duration of just 3 seconds is really what kills it. Overall though, this and the Psyker sword are a fantastic direction for the weapon design in this game, really hope to see more like it.
These look fucking sick, like a baby of exec and bret longsword
They feel great to use.
@Reginald-sc9tk gonna have to put the holy knight armour on and get work
Can you show you build for double chanded swords >?
soon
I can't be the only scrub who thinks melee uppercuts look cool as hell but are too cumbersome to use effectively. You have to get so precise with the spacing to land weakspot hits without catching a torso instead. Idk, I assume I just need to git gud.
Try aiming a bit high and right of the intended target. Its a skill check for sure.
The first one of these I bought I got all 80s except for a 60 in mobility. Very lucky for a first buy. Not a huge deal if you have millions of plastseel.
wow Counterattack is literally the worst blessing they've ever put in this game. I completely disagree with you calling it B tier, this is complete ass. 10% attack speed for THREE seconds every 8 seconds on a perfect block.
You get a bonus that a talent can give you for T H R E E seconds, which can only trigger every 8 seconds, on a very rare trigger condition. This is not B tier. This is a waste of a blessing slot. This is doing absolutely nothing.
Fatshark, fire whoever made this, this is completely inexcusable and they shouldn't be allowed to balance a video game ever again.
Considering the other options its B tier lmao. At least its a damage pump (by attack speed). I don't think I'd ever take it. Why bother?
Damn. these seapons looks juicy. Feels like a real dance of death
Wait can bosses still be one tapped by thunder hammer? How can that be done.
Stealth+martyrdom+weakspot hit w/ thrust, headtaker and unyielding perk.
What ui settings/mods are you using, btw
Just numeric UI and dodge counter
BUILD >? FOR this 2 sweet swords >?
Time to actually unironically spamming Holy Lance
Is that a two handed chain axe?
I killed a mauler so I could put him in the opening sequence...like I do in all my videos...as I lust after his weapon.
12:49 Whats staz? You mean steez?
5:28 darktide moment
I couldn't not show the third burster blowing me up. Also that dash that rammed me backwards was ugly.
Guys, how do you get the relic blade? Do you have to do the commisar missions?
No, just be zealot on high enough level
I love the new swords. They are fun to use and perform quite well.
On a critical, personal level tough, i find it struggles to find its niche. Its personality so to speak.
At times it feels like a weak Thunder hammer. At other times like an unwieldy Tigris Chainsword.
It feels too slow for what it is and too weak compared to the weapons it seems to be competing with.
Probably just me, but hey, someone here might correct me and send me on the right path with this beauty.
Its actually a top performer only weaker at heavy elites busting than the thammers and Eviscerators but better into light elites and generally a real horde anniholator. The thammsr suffers into hordes and lighter elites. Ds4 and vet powersword are both outliers and shouldn't be considered as part of the comparison which is why people are having a hard time.
@Reginald-sc9tk Considering i use shock and awe on my thunder hammer i never felt it was weaker on hordes, quite the opposite, actually.
That being said, maybe I've always used it wrong because of that.
I still get your point, but i feel curious.
Since shock and awe transforms the thunder hammer into an absolute all-around beast on damnation or heresy, is it a higher level of play thing?
Edit : A few typos and the realization that you do not have a good relationship history with the Hammer based on your older vids... Its actually my favorite (The Crucis that is, i freakin hate ironhelm :P). This is interesting. I'll check em' out. I really do wonder now if its truly shock and awe that makes the damn thing so effective.
For reference my Crucis uses:
25% on both unyielding and carapace
Shock and awe (Duh) :P
And Headtaker.
Anything dumb enough to get near gets swatted and if not dead gets staggered or outright knocked down.
Anything bigger gets the special. The things a work of art.
@@mrpatate12345678 Yeah - so. The thammer is actually my second favorite weapon after the chain axe. The issue with it is that, objectively, it sucks. Or did. It still kinda does. Shock & Awe does not change that. ALL shock and awe does is allow the weapon to cleave more effectively. But so does headtaker. However the weapon has a _cleave damage cap_ of like 5 guys. At best you're killing 2ish per swing in most cases regardless of how many you hit.
@@Reginald-sc9tk Correct sir.
But hear me out.
They might not be dead...
But none of em are standing. ;)