I LIVE IN GREECE BUT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ALL MY LIFE. HOPEFULLY THE PROPERTY NEXT TO THE STADIUM ( RECENTLY GIVEN) WILL BE ON A GOOD PLAN. PS THESSALONIKI IN GREECE ARE BUILDING A 9.7 KM METRO SINCE 2006 SO THAT MAKES US FAR WORSE THAN LEEDS IS . YOU WILL PROBABLY DO IT IN LESS THAN 7 YEARS
Just take out the seats, I have never sat down at ER. Even when the stewards were massive on it. I'd wait for everyone to sit down and then I would sing Stand up and sing for Leeds and everyone would stand up again. The death stare from the stewards were brilliant lol
I recall the new stadium plans under Ridsdale, when we were 'living the dream'. With new P&S rules to be based on % of revenue, we need to improve our revenue (without increasing ticket prices) - so increasing capacity is a way to do this. Wouldn't support selling the name rights though.
49ers want the 20,000 to be middle-class fans who will be able to afford the £150 per match spend (tickets, food, drink, souvenirs). Local Beeston Dave will be priced out. Becareful what you watch for chaps.
@@chrisbaldwin3609 When Angus gave info out about it there wouldn't be a reduced capacity. He said they would build a new stand above current West Stand, then once that's done, move people into that while lower tier gets developed. Then same again for North Stand.
It's supposed to be the consolation prize for not getting the HS2 link.First Phase is Bradford City Centre -Leeds City Centre -St James Hospital. Elland Road would be part of the SECOND PHASE along with the airport.
@@chrisbaldwin3609 All I know is he knows more about it seeing as he's been the one looking at the plans and agreeing to architect plans etc. He might not be an expert in building, but he knows exactly how the works will be phased. And he said it'd be done as I said in my earlier comment. You can go back and watch the interview if you want. The Square Ball one. See for yourself.
It's crazy how outdated Elland Road is. Much smaller clubs have far better and even bigger stadiums. It mystifies me why Leeds lost touch with the leaders. Get yourself a brand new 60k stadium built on the same site.
The method of construction where the upper tier in the West stand is built without reducing match capacity. Will be a practical proven method if the stand is rebuilt. The status of the two clubs will not affect that.
there was once talk of new stadium at skelton grange in Ridsdale meagalomaniac days. Of course new stadium now would be unaffordable. so staged development of Elland Road is the only way... and it keeps the atmosphere.. Basically build another tier on and behind the West stand as they have done at Anfield (which added 8000 seats) and same with the kop plus the safe standing. You are correct about the Leeds being biggest city without a tram (although we used to have a wonderful tram system - thats what the wide central reservations on wetherby road and scott hall road were for (they also ran on A65 past horsforth and up to lawnswood. Like the discussed addition of a station on the wakefield line that runs by the stadium, this has always been for the future.
Thank God that didn't Happen! Remember been at Dennis Wise's first Match against Southend with my 10 year old Daughter because most of my mates had stopped going. Easy to get to from Bramley but if I had to make the journey all the way down there I probably wouldn't have gone. Think crowd was around 23.000 so if we build a 55.000 it's going to look awfully empty if we experience another slump.
Knock the place down and build a new stadium next to it like they did at Spurs. Its impossible to make the south stand any bigger because of the road behind it. The new stadium will still be called Elland Road so it's not going to upset anyone
North stand,North East corner,North West corner and west stand being extended would significantly increase the grounds capacity without any development 2 the South stand
As a n Engineer...we should be looking at 65K...nothing to stop us...we have the brass and support and space too...ticket prices need to be readjusted...downwards to help kids and the local community afford....England needs a Northern venue which is modern and has proper transport links. M1/M621...ideal....BUT we also need an LRT system.....up to Birstall/Batley/Morley/Gildersome and to the City...it is not difficult.....funding is there, sadly vision is not! 49ers have an American can do attitude...I pray they stay and prevail...
He should have sold up after the first season in the PL, he let a man called orta mess up with signing rubbish from Germany and other places . @@ianclark9198
Radz should have sold up after the first season tbh, but no he let that crook victor orta waste millions on crap from poor leagues and have craptain America as manager who brought in useless USA players. then replaced him with more rubbish in Javi Garcia. this is radz fault a gutless man talking rubbish on twitter while drinking wine etc. ps I never liked radz from day 1 I could smell a rat @@ianclark9198
Repeat what they did in 1968. Knock down the gelderd end & build much bigger end 20 or 30 ft back. Build new west stand to line up with pitch move towards new gelderd. Knock down south stand, now have room to build much bigger south stand. East stand can be chopped at one end & extended at the new Ne corner bit. Would be nice if they ripped out all the Es lower seats out as the leg room is a joke due to cost cutting construction in 1993 that put seats on the old lowfields terrace. Was a farce that. Hopefully they won't use Leeds based architects cus every single thing done in the past was a bodge. Eg: poles in the gelderd, poles in the south stand & the mentioned terrible leg room in the east lower. If they're gunna do it then do it properly please thanks 😁
One big problem regards the transport infrastructure. Trams running to the stadium but 1000s of fans drive into Leeds to watch a match. So before they think about a tram link from the city centre, what about the parking ? Either way theres always going to be a need for vast parking areas somewhere. Elland roads current parking sits right at the side of the M602. Why doesnt the club and the city look into building a junction off the motorway staright into the carpark ? This could only be used on matchdays / nights. Straight in and straight out. No bottlenck along Elland road. Every vehicle is vying for the same bit of tarmac !!! Possibly the club wouldnt pay anything towards this because lets be honest here, its not an earner and modern clubs run as a business and are always looking at the bottom line !! Stadiums position right next to a motorway link make this achievable.
Need to put parabolic noise reflectors in the roofs to increase noise on pich even further. Also 49ers need to target the area between York, Harrogate, Ilkley and Barnsley. Player school visits, event etc. Need maximise revenue in area where no other big teams, make the jeart of Yorkshire Leeds! More fans and shirt sales means more £ for the team.
@gumbo7215 it says Big teams I.e. those likely to survive in prem. while I respect people supporting their home town club, York city, Harrogate town, Ilkley town etc a business plan of 50 k stadium and spending based on revenue stream needs a wide core fan base.
@gumbo7215 my comment addressed your point perfectly, it's the fact that some people want to support a team with premier competitiveness. Barnsley from my experience has a lot of Leeds fans, Devon a lot of Man U fans Why because young people do look to the prem. As I said great to support your local team (I do), but some people don't. In this group some dont want to support big spending teams whose chants include 'Yorkshire scum', this is the target audience. Leeds need to maximise this and Barnsley is a possible area. It's simple, keep supporting Barnsley that's great but unfortunately football money has buggered it for most. However Leeds despite never having great owners still have a slight chance of making it back and staying there and my suggestion is how theyd do it. The way it setup Football for the fans is not as good as it once was.
Re Super tram promised 3 times in the 80's , 90's early 2000's middleton belle isle hunslet got as far as the steel masts n then costing too much money scraped so between now and 2040 more of the same so much for the northern powerhouse.
Looking at that screenshot you can see how far Elland Road has been left behind. It looks like something from the early 80s. Smaller clubs like Brighton, Leicester, Southampton, Brentford, Derby etc have far better stadiums. You really need to get your shit together.
@@jive091 I don't 'think' it's dated, I KNOW it's dated. I'm not denying the atmosphere is better. Leeds fans are top tier, that's why they deserve better.
No parking for 38 thousands, were are 55 thousands going to park . Not everyone lives in the Leeds area , new ground the only way forward to enable us to compete with premier league clubs .
I tend to agree that a new ground prob faster more efficient and easier. 49ers are experts building NEW stadiums….however u lose the ER vibe….which I do think they are concerned about for how long dunno…
NOTHING new at all. Angus Kinnear explained the 49ers stadium strategy last August.Nothing will happen until they are "established" in the PL. They have asked a selection of architects to draw up sketches of possible stadium redevelopment and approximate costs.So far nothing has been made public yet.The proposed Tram system for Leeds is not scheduled to begin construction until 2026 at the earliest.I wonder how long it will take to build,that's if it even goes ahead ?They spent 20 years planning the last new transit system,only to scrap it all.Elland Road was only a part of a possible future SECOND PHASE,anyway.
Need better facilities for disabled people rather than having to take your wheelchair onto the pitch Over cables, and then when you tried to get out all of the area behind the goal. everyone has moved forward and you can’t get out, but you want to get an earlier bus to save delaying people
They might aswell sit down in the Revie stand. They all just stay there arm-folded without singing.. Old chaps, tourists and youtubers. Not a good combo for making it very loud.
Planning to run for the City Council? Or go straight into the Westminster bubble? What percentage of language (in this clip) is about business? £,$ (non)sense/cents. Where is the LUFC for Life, Side before Self Passion? 😡 Do your homework, do yourself a favour, Do a re-edit. MOT ...just an opinion.
It wants to its the biggest shit hole I’ve personally ever been to following United it’s like it’s never been updated since the 1940s it’s got 1 big stand the rest of it from the outside is like a conference standard stadium in all honesty and as Brian cliffhanger said bollocks to don revie
Safe standing is better than seats in certain stands where you have zero leg room if you’re tall etc
Hosting the Magic Weekend for Rugby Super League will bring in some cash. Hosting some of the huge crunch games for Rhinos will help out too.
I LIVE IN GREECE BUT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ALL MY LIFE. HOPEFULLY THE PROPERTY NEXT TO THE STADIUM ( RECENTLY GIVEN) WILL BE ON A GOOD PLAN. PS THESSALONIKI IN GREECE ARE BUILDING A 9.7 KM METRO SINCE 2006 SO THAT MAKES US FAR WORSE THAN LEEDS IS . YOU WILL PROBABLY DO IT IN LESS THAN 7 YEARS
Just take out the seats, I have never sat down at ER. Even when the stewards were massive on it. I'd wait for everyone to sit down and then I would sing Stand up and sing for Leeds and everyone would stand up again. The death stare from the stewards were brilliant lol
Good man, thanks. Thats the reason we are able to stand up, and the only reason we get safe standing.
The citizens of Lèeds have been promised a modern transport system for about 30 years and nothing has happened. I won't hold my breath!
I recall the new stadium plans under Ridsdale, when we were 'living the dream'.
With new P&S rules to be based on % of revenue, we need to improve our revenue (without increasing ticket prices) - so increasing capacity is a way to do this. Wouldn't support selling the name rights though.
Agreed ER is ER...never sell our soul! Sell a player first!
Personally I can't wait to take my seat in the coca cola corner of the Microsoft Leeds soccer stadium 😂
I am a Leeds United fan.
It's great to hear
Trams would be very good
49ers want the 20,000 to be middle-class fans who will be able to afford the £150 per match spend (tickets, food, drink, souvenirs). Local Beeston Dave will be priced out. Becareful what you watch for chaps.
@@chrisbaldwin3609 When Angus gave info out about it there wouldn't be a reduced capacity. He said they would build a new stand above current West Stand, then once that's done, move people into that while lower tier gets developed. Then same again for North Stand.
It's supposed to be the consolation prize for not getting the HS2 link.First Phase is Bradford City Centre -Leeds City Centre -St James Hospital.
Elland Road would be part of the SECOND PHASE along with the airport.
@@chrisbaldwin3609 All I know is he knows more about it seeing as he's been the one looking at the plans and agreeing to architect plans etc.
He might not be an expert in building, but he knows exactly how the works will be phased.
And he said it'd be done as I said in my earlier comment. You can go back and watch the interview if you want. The Square Ball one. See for yourself.
You can't run a 55 thousand stadium with 55 thousand Beeston Daves in 2024.Every 5 year old knows this.
@@chrisbaldwin3609What's the alternative, leave Elland Rd???
It's crazy how outdated Elland Road is. Much smaller clubs have far better and even bigger stadiums. It mystifies me why Leeds lost touch with the leaders. Get yourself a brand new 60k stadium built on the same site.
The method of construction where the upper tier in the West stand is built without reducing match capacity. Will be a practical proven method if the stand is rebuilt. The status of the two clubs will not affect that.
Brilliant information
im sure i read somewhere too that the waiting list for season tickets is 20,000
there was once talk of new stadium at skelton grange in Ridsdale meagalomaniac days. Of course new stadium now would be unaffordable. so staged development of Elland Road is the only way... and it keeps the atmosphere.. Basically build another tier on and behind the West stand as they have done at Anfield (which added 8000 seats) and same with the kop plus the safe standing. You are correct about the Leeds being biggest city without a tram (although we used to have a wonderful tram system - thats what the wide central reservations on wetherby road and scott hall road were for (they also ran on A65 past horsforth and up to lawnswood. Like the discussed addition of a station on the wakefield line that runs by the stadium, this has always been for the future.
Thank God that didn't Happen! Remember been at Dennis Wise's first Match against Southend with my 10 year old Daughter because most of my mates had stopped going. Easy to get to from Bramley but if I had to make the journey all the way down there I probably wouldn't have gone. Think crowd was around 23.000 so if we build a 55.000 it's going to look awfully empty if we experience another slump.
hmmm never seen your channel before. A good upload
Knock the place down and build a new stadium next to it like they did at Spurs. Its impossible to make the south stand any bigger because of the road behind it. The new stadium will still be called Elland Road so it's not going to upset anyone
Very hard to do though, and means you need to either buy a totally new patch of land or do a ground share for a bit
Clueless
Impossible? Just because of the road running behind it? Nonsense 😂
North stand,North East corner,North West corner and west stand being extended would significantly increase the grounds capacity without any development 2 the South stand
As a n Engineer...we should be looking at 65K...nothing to stop us...we have the brass and support and space too...ticket prices need to be readjusted...downwards to help kids and the local community afford....England needs a Northern venue which is modern and has proper transport links. M1/M621...ideal....BUT we also need an LRT system.....up to Birstall/Batley/Morley/Gildersome and to the City...it is not difficult.....funding is there, sadly vision is not! 49ers have an American can do attitude...I pray they stay and prevail...
Hope we do get promoted joe 🙏 fantastic vid as always bro
Radz dreams weren’t reality he was just a dreamer that’s all.
He should have sold up after the first season in the PL, he let a man called orta mess up with signing rubbish from Germany and other places .
@@ianclark9198
Yet he sunk us down to championship
@@ianclark9198 if he had the club at heart, we'd be owned by QSI not 49ers
Radz should have sold up after the first season tbh, but no he let that crook victor orta waste millions on crap from poor leagues and have craptain America as manager who brought in useless USA players. then replaced him with more rubbish in Javi Garcia. this is radz fault a gutless man talking rubbish on twitter while drinking wine etc. ps I never liked radz from day 1 I could smell a rat
@@ianclark9198
@@ianclark9198 the proof is in the pudding, if you want to crack into that top 6 you need money
Repeat what they did in 1968. Knock down the gelderd end & build much bigger end 20 or 30 ft back. Build new west stand to line up with pitch move towards new gelderd. Knock down south stand, now have room to build much bigger south stand. East stand can be chopped at one end & extended at the new Ne corner bit. Would be nice if they ripped out all the Es lower seats out as the leg room is a joke due to cost cutting construction in 1993 that put seats on the old lowfields terrace. Was a farce that. Hopefully they won't use Leeds based architects cus every single thing done in the past was a bodge. Eg: poles in the gelderd, poles in the south stand & the mentioned terrible leg room in the east lower. If they're gunna do it then do it properly please thanks 😁
Trams that will take a good 10 years nit even at planning stage
One big problem regards the transport infrastructure. Trams running to the stadium but 1000s of fans drive into Leeds to watch a match. So before they think about a tram link from the city centre, what about the parking ? Either way theres always going to be a need for vast parking areas somewhere. Elland roads current parking sits right at the side of the M602. Why doesnt the club and the city look into building a junction off the motorway staright into the carpark ? This could only be used on matchdays / nights. Straight in and straight out. No bottlenck along Elland road. Every vehicle is vying for the same bit of tarmac !!! Possibly the club wouldnt pay anything towards this because lets be honest here, its not an earner and modern clubs run as a business and are always looking at the bottom line !! Stadiums position right next to a motorway link make this achievable.
65000 capacity Elland Road
No signage? Bugga would have wanted some of that!
great vid
That's great news about time to
More Revenue would increase the ability to access quality players
Going in like Joe Calzaghe
Need to put parabolic noise reflectors in the roofs to increase noise on pich even further. Also 49ers need to target the area between York, Harrogate, Ilkley and Barnsley. Player school visits, event etc. Need maximise revenue in area where no other big teams, make the jeart of Yorkshire Leeds! More fans and shirt sales means more £ for the team.
@gumbo7215 it says Big teams I.e. those likely to survive in prem. while I respect people supporting their home town club, York city, Harrogate town, Ilkley town etc a business plan of 50 k stadium and spending based on revenue stream needs a wide core fan base.
@gumbo7215 my comment addressed your point perfectly, it's the fact that some people want to support a team with premier competitiveness. Barnsley from my experience has a lot of Leeds fans, Devon a lot of Man U fans Why because young people do look to the prem. As I said great to support your local team (I do), but some people don't. In this group some dont want to support big spending teams whose chants include 'Yorkshire scum', this is the target audience. Leeds need to maximise this and Barnsley is a possible area. It's simple, keep supporting Barnsley that's great but unfortunately football money has buggered it for most. However Leeds despite never having great owners still have a slight chance of making it back and staying there and my suggestion is how theyd do it. The way it setup Football for the fans is not as good as it once was.
Re Super tram promised 3 times in the 80's , 90's early 2000's middleton belle isle hunslet got as far as the steel masts n then costing too much money scraped so between now and 2040 more of the same so much for the northern powerhouse.
Tram construction will take a loooong time…under investment public infrastructure been generational in the UK and esp in the North😢
The only real ground development is the increase to 55000
The other stuff still hugely matters, the better someone's experience the more likely they are to come back!
Depends how many share a taxi with you tbh
Aim higher bro your doing well. 5k for start of next srason
Joe do you work for old bill ?
Nah, in broadcasting!
@joeblackburn42 oh I thought you were old bill starting a shift at 2am.. that's what I do 😒
will they be painting that dirty faded paint behind the leeds united entrance , between the letters "u and n" :D
yes to trams
Full circle, we had trams in the 50s.
Looking at that screenshot you can see how far Elland Road has been left behind. It looks like something from the early 80s. Smaller clubs like Brighton, Leicester, Southampton, Brentford, Derby etc have far better stadiums. You really need to get your shit together.
Elland Road Still Better atmosphere than the clubs you have mentioned . Even if you think the ground is dated !!
@@jive091 I don't 'think' it's dated, I KNOW it's dated. I'm not denying the atmosphere is better. Leeds fans are top tier, that's why they deserve better.
Ever been to elland road lol
A good few times yeah
No parking for 38 thousands, were are 55 thousands going to park . Not everyone lives in the Leeds area , new ground the only way forward to enable us to compete with premier league clubs .
That's why 49ers want the trams. So most people could get there by park n ride or tram 👍
I tend to agree that a new ground prob faster more efficient and easier. 49ers are experts building NEW stadiums….however u lose the ER vibe….which I do think they are concerned about for how long dunno…
49ers build NEW stadiums on greenfield sites…are they really gonna be serious about development of an old site which has so many complications to it?
@@andylfreespace haven't they already confirmed that they will upgrade ER rather than move to a new stadium?
Chelsea seem to manage in a stadium not much bigger.....40000.
They do also have billionaires pumping the club full of crap signings and cash
NOTHING new at all.
Angus Kinnear explained the 49ers stadium strategy last August.Nothing will happen until they are "established" in the PL. They have asked a selection of architects to draw up sketches of possible stadium redevelopment and approximate costs.So far nothing has been made public yet.The proposed Tram system for Leeds is not scheduled to begin construction until 2026 at the earliest.I wonder how long it will take to build,that's if it even goes ahead ?They spent 20 years planning the last new transit system,only to scrap it all.Elland Road was only a part of a possible future SECOND PHASE,anyway.
Need better facilities for disabled people rather than having to take your wheelchair onto the pitch Over cables, and then when you tried to get out all of the area behind the goal. everyone has moved forward and you can’t get out, but you want to get an earlier bus to save delaying people
They might aswell sit down in the Revie stand. They all just stay there arm-folded without singing.. Old chaps, tourists and youtubers. Not a good combo for making it very loud.
Ehhhh, like any stand it has it's good days and it's bad days
I thouhgt capacity to be 62000.
Even better!
Planning to run for the City Council? Or go straight into the Westminster bubble?
What percentage of language (in this clip) is about business? £,$ (non)sense/cents.
Where is the LUFC for Life, Side before Self Passion? 😡
Do your homework, do yourself a favour, Do a re-edit.
MOT
...just an opinion.
It's not something we can just ignore, you know
It wants to its the biggest shit hole I’ve personally ever been to following United it’s like it’s never been updated since the 1940s it’s got 1 big stand the rest of it from the outside is like a conference standard stadium in all honesty and as Brian cliffhanger said bollocks to don revie
Nothing new here lad.
I didn't know the architecture firm and tram bits, if I missed it then my bad!
all talk
That's what news videos tend to be yes, were you expecting me to take a shovel down Geldard Road to get construction underway or?..
Having 2 google 2 find out what u chatting about? 😂 your preparation is as bad as your negativity about Leeds United in the near future 😂
I missed one fact off my research document, but sure