great material for PMC; before the final melt, that powdered Silver is perfect to mix with organic binders and free cast to shape in a temperature controlled kiln :)
Thank you! I used your method today, and got it down to metallic silver. Your steps outlined helped me immensely…and it’s an inexpensive method too. Now, I just need to learn how to smelt it into a shiny bar, and find someone to sell it to 😄👍
Very cool. I wish I had time to experiment with refining and melting. Not complaining, I'm having a blast running my little scrapping biz, but there are so many directions one can take in this area. Thanks for sharing and keep up the great vids.
Cementing with copper will not give you .999 silver. This method will. If you cement with copper you'll need to refine it through a cell to achieve 999.
Great video mate. However I feel people would benefit more for you used layman terms for ease of following. And how the calculations of a specific amount is done. I appreciate your time.
Nice, interesting video. It would be of help to include weights and stoichometry though, like how much silver you're using, what constitutes the "calculated amount" of salt, etc.
How much Amount of nitric acid should be added for 1 kg for silver jewellery of approx 70% purity? And how much amount of distilled water should be added to the silver nitrate solution?
Actually, using O2 rich flame will only increase O2 absorption. Since this melt was for a small amount and the melt time was very short, you can barely see the dendrites.
Thank you , this was very helpful. How would you suggest going about refining silver contacts that are attached to a small amount of copper and tungsten?
Hi teacher, please help me. I have some stone containing silver sulfide. What materials should I use to dissolve it and with what materials should I deposit it? In what acid does silver sulfide dissolve?
I have silver alloy containing copper,zinc,lead, cadmium Alloy having 50% silver content I want to recover all silver without any loss of silver, suppose 1kg alloy with 50% silver content that means 55gm pure silver present in my alloy I want back all 500gm silver more than 98% purity...
@@indeedItdoes it's hard to get and rather expensive to order including the shipping. I have refined silver with boiling sulfuric acid but not sure if the cadmium would stay in solution or precipitate out with the silver chloride when I add the hydrochloric acid..
For me the solution turn to the dark brown color, also the brown dust setting on the bottom.. I know the silver chloride what I used was mixed with gold.. I can’t understand what’s was obtained.. im pretty sure its silver chloride cos its not dissolving even in the boiling water…anybody have an idea? Thank you
Very Succinctly explained. I have a question for you. I have Silver Nitrate solution. I added HCL, NaOH, and glucose. I have a viscous, black solution. I'm trying to recapture the Ag used in the Silver Nitrate electrolyte that I used in a dielectric cell to grow Ag crystal. The jet black solution is completely stable. No reaction or parcipitate for several days now. What would you suggest? In a test, of adding small amounts of HCL, to the solution, I get the, "Cottage Cheese", parcipitate. NaCl? I'm a bit stuck. 2 - 2,500 ml beakers of the black solution. 8 gallons of more, Silver Nitrate to go. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you so much! Wade
Hi Wade. I’ve had a similar experience, but slightly different and on a much smaller scale. I set out to precipitate silver from a sodium chloride solution using HCl, which worked well, but it had base metal impurities. So I added more HCl to dissolve the base metals. However, I ended up with what seems to be the jet black liquid you are talking about. I left it for a few days, and then decided to slowly add distilled water to the mix…The silver precipitate send to have reappeared, and the reaction was almost instant. I think they problem was that too much HCl dropped the ph and made everything soluble, even the precipitate. By adding water, the ph rose and precipitate became more insoluble. Anyway, just thought of mention my experience to you in case it may be of any help to you. Greetings. Jacques.
@@stuffshop4883 Hey! Thank you! I tried it and it's already dropping parcipitate! I'm kind of learning as I go? I'm also following "SREETIPS". There's allot of great ideas available, grounded in real science. I guess that experience will come. I can follow examples. That's fairly simple. I need to grow my understanding of the reactions on the molecular level, so I can work the equation, when things go sideways. I really appreciate the "Asist". I should have paid better attention in University! I didn't know then, that I would develop a passion for Alchemy, in my later years! Caramelized Hydrochloric Acid aside. I'm having great fun! I enjoy interacting with people who share this passion and I always welcome a new friend! Hope we can keep in touch. I can always use a better mind and fresh perspective as well. Keeps me from getting my boxers in a twist, from following the current goings on of a corrupted government! Thanks again! Wade
I watched your video and have it all written down on my notebook for my boyfriend to do. He can do it even if the metals he has have PGM's in them right? I'm sorry if the question is silly
Does silver lose its weight when it is recovered from silver chloride? If we convert 10 grams of silver to silver chloride and then want to restore it to silver, is 10 grams left or is there a decrease in the reaction?
To achieve a 100% conversion to silver metal a constant temperature of 85 to 95 C must be maintained during the whole process. Place the beaker in a water bath, together with a thermometer. Add NaOH in small doses while stirring vigorously. A very exothermic reaction occurs, but it'll not be enough to maintain the optimal temperature during the whole process, therefore a gentle heating underneath the water bath is necessary to keep the temperature correct for the remaining part of this process. I always place the beaker in a clamp on a metal lab stand in such a way it's hanging a bit above the bottom of the water bath, allowing the water to flow free under and around the beaker; thus avoiding any spots becoming too hot. The water helps dispersing the heat when the NaOH and especially later when the sugar is added; important to avoid caramelization of some sugar types. Adding NaOH as a near saturated aqueous solution calms down the violent reaction quite a lot, and keeping a constant temperature of 85 to 95 C, as well as later adding sugar dissolved in water, all reduces the total reaction time of this process. Beware of the delayed reaction when adding the sugar. After the first dose of sugar solution, stir and wait until it start reacting, then continue to stir and add more in small doses to avoid overflow/boil over. Both while adding NaOH, and later while adding sugar, temperature increases will occur so the external heat source must be adjusted accordingly.
I think it's quite hypocritical, or misleading at worst, to say the NaCl method is easy to set up and no complicated equipment is involved and then go on to show the use of concentrated nitric acid, Chem condenser, fume hood, etc. While each alone is not technically complicated, all together the process is hazardous and requires more knowledge than the average person to do it safely.
First I would like to say that you do not know what the word hypocritical means. Next, this video was not misleading. The set up he has here, is quite simple I'm comparison to other refinarys. My set up up in my basement is by far more complex and I'm just an amateur. Buy as with most things in life; it can be as complicated as you make it to be. He also is explaining the process so that the average person can learn.
@@tonybowen472 perhaps I misspoke and used 'hypocritical' when 'contradictory' would have been a proper fit. I'm so happy you were able to understand what I was trying to say. Which I stand by, by the way. This method may be less complicated than others but it's still misleading to call it "simple" and go on from there to show specialised equipment. It's not "simple" if someone can easily make a mistake and injure themself or others but trying to jury-rigg something because "it's so easy".
@blue_fox-6779 Go ahead and stand by what you said, just makes you look like a fool even more so. If someone doesn't gather from the warning at the beginning of the video or from the bottles of chemicals themselves that they're dangerous, there is no helping them. If a box with a strong exhaust fan is a complicated piece of equipment to you, then I can't take you serious. Furthermore, your choice of the word contradictory is also not correct in this context. If you want simple, maybe hooked on phonics is a good place to start.
Its too much work - just melt silver chloride with sodium carbonate to get your clean silver metal. Electric furnace with graphite crucible is best for this.
@@indeedItdoes Yes, it has to be washed, and Na2CO3 should be chemically clean. By the way, using a simple vacuum pump with a funnel will help to wash AgCl very clean in a matter of minutes.
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@@dragon.fromindia3235 so true
great material for PMC; before the final melt, that powdered Silver is perfect to mix with organic binders and free cast to shape in a temperature controlled kiln :)
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This process might have turned into my favorite process!
Good, dlear and simple vid. Well cone. I have managed to get close to 5 nines pure with this method but it took another 10 washes at each stage!
Thank you! I used your method today, and got it down to metallic silver. Your steps outlined helped me immensely…and it’s an inexpensive method too. Now, I just need to learn how to smelt it into a shiny bar, and find someone to sell it to 😄👍
Very cool. I wish I had time to experiment with refining and melting. Not complaining, I'm having a blast running my little scrapping biz, but there are so many directions one can take in this area. Thanks for sharing and keep up the great vids.
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Wow, I've been subscribed since 2010!
This process takes long time we used copper for collection of pure silver
Just simply perfect video thanks 👌
What a nice tutorial. Came across your channel by chance and subscribed right away 👍 Continue the great job.
Would you say this is the least expensive way to refine pure silver?
Great educational video my friend.
Can achieve the some results if use copper
And thanks for the video
Cementing with copper will not give you .999 silver. This method will. If you cement with copper you'll need to refine it through a cell to achieve 999.
Very informative !
Great video mate. However I feel people would benefit more for you used layman terms for ease of following. And how the calculations of a specific amount is done. I appreciate your time.
Nice, interesting video. It would be of help to include weights and stoichometry though, like how much silver you're using, what constitutes the "calculated amount" of salt, etc.
How much Amount of nitric acid should be added for 1 kg for silver jewellery of approx 70% purity? And how much amount of distilled water should be added to the silver nitrate solution?
Sir please can you guide me ,how to saperate silver from tin there is 3%of silver present in tin none other metals, please help me i want recover both
Nyc video sir g
You are using a very rich flame when melting the silver, is that to minimize the oxygen absorption during the melt?
Great video!
Actually, using O2 rich flame will only increase O2 absorption. Since this melt was for a small amount and the melt time was very short, you can barely see the dendrites.
Hey friend do you think i can go for the same prosses i do have over 40 kgs of nickel and sylver alloy and how much sylver i can get??
What fume hood do you use?
I have an doubt on the video at 3:50 what is the blue colour water type can you tell me
Amazing
Thank you , this was very helpful. How would you suggest going about refining silver contacts that are attached to a small amount of copper and tungsten?
Exactly the same.
Thanks for the clarity and details of your demonstration. Please keep going and produce more videos 👏
My is black liquid and won’t precipitate. Why?
Why not just put copper into the beaker once the nitric stops reacting?
cant you just melt the silver oxide directly back into silver?
Can you wash with regular tap water or must it be distilled?
If you wash with regular tap water, you will contaminate your purity and or create silver chloride again due to the chlorine in tap water.
The Gold Refining Forum is a great place to learn everything gold and silver. Google it and sign up. My name is DevilDog on it.
Hi teacher, please help me. I have some stone containing silver sulfide. What materials should I use to dissolve it and with what materials should I deposit it? In what acid does silver sulfide dissolve?
I have silver alloy containing copper,zinc,lead, cadmium
Alloy having 50% silver content I want to recover all silver without any loss of silver, suppose 1kg alloy with 50% silver content that means 55gm pure silver present in my alloy I want back all 500gm silver more than 98% purity...
What’s the total cost of the process?
Great video! Where did you get your nitric acid?
what the calculation should I use it to know how much the quantity added ?
Can you tell me the ratios of chemical that you used ease?
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What kind of glucose powder?
Great video! Got a question you might can help with..How would you refine silver cadmium contacts without nitric?
Thanks. May I ask, why wouldn't you want to use nitric?
@@indeedItdoes it's hard to get and rather expensive to order including the shipping. I have refined silver with boiling sulfuric acid but not sure if the cadmium would stay in solution or precipitate out with the silver chloride when I add the hydrochloric acid..
For me the solution turn to the dark brown color, also the brown dust setting on the bottom.. I know the silver chloride what I used was mixed with gold.. I can’t understand what’s was obtained.. im pretty sure its silver chloride cos its not dissolving even in the boiling water…anybody have an idea? Thank you
Very Succinctly explained. I have a question for you. I have Silver Nitrate solution. I added HCL, NaOH, and glucose. I have a viscous, black solution.
I'm trying to recapture the Ag used in the Silver Nitrate electrolyte that I used in a dielectric cell to grow Ag crystal. The jet black solution is completely stable. No reaction or parcipitate for several days now.
What would you suggest? In a test, of adding small amounts of HCL, to the solution, I get the, "Cottage Cheese", parcipitate. NaCl? I'm a bit stuck. 2 - 2,500 ml beakers of the black solution. 8 gallons of more, Silver Nitrate to go. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you so much!
Wade
Hi Wade. I’ve had a similar experience, but slightly different and on a much smaller scale.
I set out to precipitate silver from a sodium chloride solution using HCl, which worked well, but it had base metal impurities. So I added more HCl to dissolve the base metals. However, I ended up with what seems to be the jet black liquid you are talking about.
I left it for a few days, and then decided to slowly add distilled water to the mix…The silver precipitate send to have reappeared, and the reaction was almost instant.
I think they problem was that too much HCl dropped the ph and made everything soluble, even the precipitate. By adding water, the ph rose and precipitate became more insoluble.
Anyway, just thought of mention my experience to you in case it may be of any help to you.
Greetings.
Jacques.
@@stuffshop4883 Hey! Thank you! I tried it and it's already dropping parcipitate! I'm kind of learning as I go? I'm also following "SREETIPS". There's allot of great ideas available, grounded in real science.
I guess that experience will come. I can follow examples. That's fairly simple. I need to grow my understanding of the reactions on the molecular level, so I can work the equation, when things go sideways.
I really appreciate the "Asist". I should have paid better attention in University! I didn't know then, that I would develop a passion for Alchemy, in my later years! Caramelized Hydrochloric Acid aside. I'm having great fun!
I enjoy interacting with people who share this passion and I always welcome a new friend! Hope we can keep in touch. I can always use a better mind and fresh perspective as well. Keeps me from getting my boxers in a twist, from following the current goings on of a corrupted government!
Thanks again!
Wade
I watched your video and have it all written down on my notebook for my boyfriend to do. He can do it even if the metals he has have PGM's in them right? I'm sorry if the question is silly
That's a good question actually.
This process will eliminate PGM just fine
Just had my first boil over lol
Does silver lose its weight when it is recovered from silver chloride? If we convert 10 grams of silver to silver chloride and then want to restore it to silver, is 10 grams left or is there a decrease in the reaction?
Ideally, no
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To achieve a 100% conversion to silver metal a constant temperature of 85 to 95 C must be maintained during the whole process.
Place the beaker in a water bath, together with a thermometer. Add NaOH in small doses while stirring vigorously. A very exothermic reaction occurs, but it'll not be enough to maintain the optimal temperature during the whole process, therefore a gentle heating underneath the water bath is necessary to keep the temperature correct for the remaining part of this process.
I always place the beaker in a clamp on a metal lab stand in such a way it's hanging a bit above the bottom of the water bath, allowing the water to flow free under and around the beaker; thus avoiding any spots becoming too hot. The water helps dispersing the heat when the NaOH and especially later when the sugar is added; important to avoid caramelization of some sugar types.
Adding NaOH as a near saturated aqueous solution calms down the violent reaction quite a lot, and keeping a constant temperature of 85 to 95 C, as well as later adding sugar dissolved in water, all reduces the total reaction time of this process.
Beware of the delayed reaction when adding the sugar. After the first dose of sugar solution, stir and wait until it start reacting, then continue to stir and add more in small doses to avoid overflow/boil over.
Both while adding NaOH, and later while adding sugar, temperature increases will occur so the external heat source must be adjusted accordingly.
Salve il metallo silver nn e argento ma e un metallo silver argento e tutta un'altra cosa giusto
Ain't no 99.9% Ag... Gotta crystalize the Ag, then melt it to get 99.9% fine.
i do it with copper after silver nitrate, first try achieved 99.99 fine, testing with sigma
I think it's quite hypocritical, or misleading at worst, to say the NaCl method is easy to set up and no complicated equipment is involved and then go on to show the use of concentrated nitric acid, Chem condenser, fume hood, etc. While each alone is not technically complicated, all together the process is hazardous and requires more knowledge than the average person to do it safely.
First I would like to say that you do not know what the word hypocritical means. Next, this video was not misleading. The set up he has here, is quite simple I'm comparison to other refinarys. My set up up in my basement is by far more complex and I'm just an amateur. Buy as with most things in life; it can be as complicated as you make it to be. He also is explaining the process so that the average person can learn.
@@tonybowen472 perhaps I misspoke and used 'hypocritical' when 'contradictory' would have been a proper fit. I'm so happy you were able to understand what I was trying to say. Which I stand by, by the way. This method may be less complicated than others but it's still misleading to call it "simple" and go on from there to show specialised equipment. It's not "simple" if someone can easily make a mistake and injure themself or others but trying to jury-rigg something because "it's so easy".
@blue_fox-6779 Go ahead and stand by what you said, just makes you look like a fool even more so. If someone doesn't gather from the warning at the beginning of the video or from the bottles of chemicals themselves that they're dangerous, there is no helping them. If a box with a strong exhaust fan is a complicated piece of equipment to you, then I can't take you serious. Furthermore, your choice of the word contradictory is also not correct in this context. If you want simple, maybe hooked on phonics is a good place to start.
Good to know but I just sell my silver to the refiner and receive 97% of the silver back.
Its too much work - just melt silver chloride with sodium carbonate to get your clean silver metal. Electric furnace with graphite crucible is best for this.
It is a good option indeed.
However, it does not negate the need to wash the AgCl.
@@indeedItdoes Yes, it has to be washed, and Na2CO3 should be chemically clean.
By the way, using a simple vacuum pump with a funnel will help to wash AgCl very clean in a matter of minutes.
@@MSteamCSM Yes... There are many ways to skin a cat
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whats this" calculated amount" crap, i thought this was a how to tutorial.