IMPORTANT NOTE: In the video I accidentally said Colleen must be 10,000 effective hp (e.hp.). THIS WAS A BRAIN FART, MY BAD! She should be 25k e.hp (typically that means about 10k HP which was what I transposed in my mind lol).
@@davidlider1596 The main reason is that Loren's S1 and S2 animations take the same amount of time, while Shaina's do not. So using Shaina can cause the teams to de-sync and lead to slower runs or, once in a blue moon, an outright fail.
@@XennialGamer tnx for replying, i never knew hasn't happened to me or maybe I'm just not focusing all the time, btw great content! Wud be cool if you did account reviews on sun :)
@@davidlider1596 Yeah the fail result is super rare, it would really only happen if someone else's team was built incorrectly also, it basically would prevent the dagora derp protection from protecting you. But the de-syncing causes runs to slow by about 0.5sec. You can tell if all 3 teams are built completely correctly, runs will always be between 27.3 and 27.7 or 27.8sec. If the run goes to 27.9s or longer, there's either a Shaina or a problem in one of the teams. For this Sunday I'm planning to do rta/rush hour. But I've been getting really bored of Arena lately haha. So I might switch it up and do some acct reviews on Sundays as well!
This actually helped me fix my team. I was wondering what I was doing wrong, finally figured out that my Janssen was dying. I got that resolved, and my team is synced up perfectly. Thank you so much!
hi, i didnt see this video yet, but some people use the fire giant warrior instead of the dagora which is not very good because his revive-animation is a little bit slower and therefore the bale in this team is gonna attack a tiny bit later than the other ones. That means, the run is gonna be a little slower and for people without the dagora insurance, they might even wipe. Great video though and keep it up, really enjoyed it :D (sorry for my bad english :/ )
Hi Alpha, that's great feedback, thanks for sharing! I actually had not seen Vidurr used in BJR5, I think I must have gotten lucky :p Definitely, anything that de-syncs the animations can cause problems in the run, so I 100% agree - we should all be using Dagora as the standard!!
@@XennialGamer i also can tell you that you dont need max towers at all. I am running BJR5 with only CD tower level 10. Speed Level 8, fire atk Level 4 and normal atk Level 3. My Bale does around 32k so towers are not a big deal. I also dont have HP/Deff tower (both Level 1) and i survive. (My Bale has +1800 atk, 235% CD and 100k EHP)
oh hey! it's you again! haha your video on the lab boss, Leo helped me alot! and i was just starting to build my first bj5 team and this video proves super helpful as well. very very descriptive and your explanation is very thorough! I'm farming for more mana now to make adjustments to my team's runes. got my team ready and stick some runes on them. gonna start working out the kinks like eHP, speed tuning, leveling up runes and grinding/gem. well at least i got something to do now with the game. really appreciate your effort man! you're the best! definitely +subbed!
Heya Ben, that's just really awesome to hear that the Leos and BJR videos helped you!! Good luck with getting the BJR team up and running - that truly is the "next stage" of the game, once you can mass farm BJR5, and thank you for the sub and the comment, really appreciate it! :)
interesting point about crit dmg loren. makes me wonder if that is an argument for using shaina over her because she gets all the benefits from the leads as well.
So when Ace and I tested for his 2nd placement video, we thought the same thing and tested this out (I even built a 2nd Shaina just for the test.. sad face. haha). Unfortunately, Shaina's overall damage is only a tiny bit higher than Loren's. Shaina has higher base attack and benefits from Shihwa lead, but has lower multipliers on the S2 because it's AOE. Shaina also creates synchronization issues, because her S2 animations is much slower than S1. Usually this just means a half-second lost on the run (no biggie), but once every blue moon it can cause a fail if she slows your team down enough that your Loren acts after the others' Baleygr.
Hey XG I watched a stream of yours recently and someone asked about the fodder needing skill-ups in bjr5 do they? (degora kali etc)I don't quite remember.
Heya Raheem, the 3* level 1 fodder (dagora + leader) definitely do not. The Loren and Janssen honestly do not either - but it doesn't hurt to give them skillups as derp protection if you're bored or OCD :p The loren skillups add a tiny bit of extra overall damage, and Janssen's S2 actually can do decent hp scaling damage if it's skilled up. In both cases, the skillups don't add much overall, and aren't needed if the teams are built properly though.
@@XennialGamer I don't have a question about bjr5, but I have a question about runes in general. I just got flat defense rune slot 4 legend will rune. it rolled into 22 speed is it worth the keep since its a flat stat as the main? (I'm so torn I don't know what to do)
@@raheemsmith2433 I would probably keep it. It's one slot out of 700 for a 26/27spd slot 4 rune. I would use it very sparingly - maybe for an attack bar boooster in siege or something ("depth" - not your primary, but like your 3rd or 4th ATB for example). That's actually why I don't roll flat slot 4/6. If you win, you lose because you're so torn hahaha. But TBH - I know most people SHOULD roll them. If it was 28spd and grinded to 33, it'd be amazing for a booster too.
I know I am a bit late but: my colleen doesn’t buff every 15-20 runs. What’s the problem? I have a bear that dies and comes back with 30%hp. My colleen gets around 50% hp if the boss hits her in the backline. Would be glad about an explanation
Heya Loma, so there's a weird bug that happened idk, maybe 6 months ago, after one of the updates, where this happened to some people (including me). No idea what caused it - seems like maybe the Dagora is resurrecting with 30.01% hp or something, which leads to some Colleen derps. The fix is easy - just change Dagora's runes in any way. Enchant the slot 5 once, remove/re-add a rune, etc. That should fix it :)
never have a prolem with my slow +12 spd jansen maybe because of using will rune fightx2 so my jansen never get slow debuff. What i think make most run fail is: 1. They dont have enough damage on either their loren or any other units that do armor break. And if it does sometimes they dont even have enough effective hp 2. Their bale and colleen doen't have enough effective hp(because many still using fran which heal is lacking compared to colleen heal)and sometimes the colleen have too much effective hp ann she doens't die when the boss jump 3. Bale don't do enough damage 4. Optional but alot of people never build dagora insurance. Which you make dagora a little bit faster than your jansen
Very interesting X3mn5. I've seen a lot of runs fail due to Janssen being too slow, but they were always triple fight. I suspect that you're right - the issue there is a slow janssen getting a slow debuff, so double fight/will would allow you to make him slower :)
Hey I know I'm very late to the part but I noticed your Colleen is 4*, I 6*'d mine for Necro do I need to make a new one or does 6* still work. Just trying to make sure it won't scuff anything.
Yeah the logic is definitely there on the Dagora speed tune. TBH I just hadn't done it yet because I got tired of the fails and stopped raiding in 65 much :p It's really only needed if someone's team is flawed - but using my own logic against it, it's one of those "there's no reason not to do it" things too! :p I actually went out and adjusted the speed tuning after I posted the video haha.
You mentioned that it's a misconception that Colleen does not need will runes because the boss sometimes applies oblivion on the first hit. But my question is why does it matter if colleen gets Oblivioned? She doesn't have a passive skill. Does this have something to do with her AI when under oblivion status effect?
Funny timing. I just released a detailed BJR5 building video today :) The effective hp is how tanky bale is (hp+def). The new video explains how to use the optimizer to find that number: ruclips.net/video/Vds2qoUwL0I/видео.html
I can't be sure without seeing the run, but it SOUNDS like that may be a "short on damage" issue. If the Baleygr's don't do enough damage, then Janssen could be taking his turn before the jump and with everything still alive, he'd use his S1 or something instead of resurrecting. That's a guess though - like I said, it's hard to say for sure without seeing the fail.
@@ivanthedy6857 Yeah boosting your Dagora's speed to act between Janssen and Baleygr may help with this. Also there's a weird derp where Dagora seems to resurrect with 30.01% hp, and then Colleen doesn't always buff. This happened several updates ago. The fix is just to change any 1 rune on Dagora and then he resurrects properly again. So pay attention if Colleen is missing any buffs you can do that (leveling Dagora once is supposed to also fix it).
Hey Xennial idk if you will check this as its been 7 months, but i have a problem were boss cuts loren and kills dagora again which causes a fail. Do you know why this happens? My loren is +41 spd and it still happens, loren is also on will. If you can know how i can solve it, it would help me a lot.
Heya, DM me screen shots of your team's stats in Discord, and I'll take a look :) My discord server is in the description of any video, except maybe a few of the oldest ones.
This video is older, since the artifact update runes went to 28s for everyone. Not sure why :/. As for the Loren de-syncing, I'm not positive but it could be a speed tuning issue. Does your colleen move before Loren? You can try asking in Discord it's hard to know exactly without more info in this case: discord.gg/nrfUDVc
@@XennialGamer my team goes colleen Loren baleygr Jansen colleen dies on jump but I am using a LVL 1 fire art master as leader my baleygr animation is synced but Loren isn't I get 28 seconds every run so that's a relief.
Janssen can go back row yeah :) It's just safer to have him in the FL - if he's BL, then your Bale and Loren needs to be tankier. For fight runes, you just have to farm fire rift and craft them. It's a long process, but keep in mind that you don't need high quality runes at all for BJR5, except on Bale - all the other monsters can be made with much lower quality runes :)
@@ryandanbrook4053 I'm not sure if anyone has tested. I'd guess +30 or +40, but I'm not sure. I know if you make her too fast she can cut the boss also tho, so you'd have to be careful with your speed tuning (max speed is like 189 or 191, around there).
Hey ! just 1 question might be obvious but I was just currious if Coleen , Janssen and Dagora have to be fully max skill ? ty in advance ! its probably really obvious but I just wanted to be sure.
@@XxLyrokxX98 Hehe obsessive-compulsive disorder. Though in this context I don't really mean I have it, it's more of a perhaps American expression where it's like "I feel compelled to do something unnecessary because it makes me feel good/better/complete" something like that I guess :)
Yeah that all assumes max speed tower, so adjust accordingly if your tower isn't max. Janssen needs I believe 131 combat speed, Bale 139 combat speed, then Loren just 1 faster than Bale, etc.
sir ty so much, my jansen sometime got cut with 17 speed. so I use will to prevent the speed debuff. with my 27 speed jansen, even he got speed debut, he don't get cut, so now I can use 3x fight
@@salim6800 +30 speed should be fine with Baleygr. Of course I assume he's on will runes (preventing slow). You may be getting cut because you use Shaina and the animations aren't syncing with the other teams when they use Loren. Or you may be getting cut because the speed tuning of the other monsters isn't correct, or someone else is missing will runes and they are getting slowed and changing turn order. It's even possible you're getting cut because one of your partners' teams is not built correctly (for example you'd be cut if you+partners didn't have enough damage output to force the boss to jump when the Baleygrs attack the first time). My suggestion is to record your gameplay for a while, until the problem happens. Then watch the recording slowly, and see which monster(s) are acting out of sequence. That helps much more to identify the problem :)
Because you need Colleen to die when the boss jumps. If she doesn't die, then Baleygr doesn't get back to 5 stacks and Janssen doesn't boost Baleygr's attack bar enough to cut back in front of the boss's next turn (his resurrect boosts attack bar based on the number of monsters resurrected).
@@XennialGamer Well my thought wasn't to make her tanky enough to survive the jump. Just that if you made her a bit tankier in general, she should be tanky enough to survive first attack while being in frontline and still die to the jump. Overall making it possible to have 4 man frontline and therefore require less stats on the Baley. Or am I missing something?
@@TheMusikYarl A tanky Janssen in the frontline will cover you for that :) I think your idea could reduce the requirement for Janssen perhaps, but probably not for Bale. However, I'm not sure what the calculations would need to be for Colleen to reliably die in the front line and Jannseen to reliably live in that situation, it would have to be tested for.
@@XennialGamer Well as far as I know, 4 in front line reduces the requirements even more for both front and backline. Therefore I was thinking of putting Colleen and Janssen in frontline. But figured there might be something against it since noone else is doing it. Can come back with more info, when I've tried it
@@TheMusikYarl Basically, some of the bosses attacks hit frontline only, and some hit AOE. For the frontline only attacks, if the allies there die, the boss then moves on the backline. More frontline monsters will share the damage, giving them a better chance to survive the bosses attack. So in theory yeah if Colleen is frontline, it would lower the effective hp requirement of Janssen. But I think you'll find that creates some "scary" randomness too. Because the boss can crit, crush, or normal hit, so you can't control which of the multi-hits that Colleen dies on. So even if you set her in a correct effective hp range for her to die, if you run your Janssen at too low of an effective hp, he could still wind up wiping. I'm sure it's possible to do, but it would require a lot of testing to find a safe range that doesn't cause fails. That's likely why nobody has tried it :) Getting Janssen to the 170k e.hp he needs isn't too bad, if you just do slot 2/4/6 as all either hp or def% runes, he should be at that level after they are max (probably before they max) even with no other hp/def in subs.
So.. I remember having this discussion with someone about 6 months ago, and they had a good reason not to use Vidurr at the time. I totally can NOT remember the reason, nor can I see it myself from looking at the skill descriptions *rofl*. So the best I can say is... it seems like you should be able to run him, but someone once gave me a reason that I bought into for not doing so.
You could put Colleen on the FL, but I don't think it would lower the Baleygr e.hp requirement. Basically, if the whole FL wipes, then the boss hits the BL more. But you only need one monster in the FL to survive to prevent that. So as long as Jannsen is at 170k+ ehp, then Bale is fine at 85k+ (though 88k+ is better). In theory, I suppose moving colleen to the FL, she might disperse the damage Jannsen takes, and lower his e.hp requirement. But I can't be sure by how much, if any - and 170k isn't too hard to reach with him since he doesn't need any other stat :)
one thing that I'm not sure about. is how much dmg do you lose on bale if he is 31k. is it 1k per hit that you're missing? so having loren cd offsets it a bit. I ask since after i get a rage grind + gem for slot 1 (even blue) i'll be at 30,965 (8 atk, and fire atk tower w/ max cd). max towers bring me to 31.5k. My effective hp is at 106k (added quite a bit since i also have low hp/def towers. 110k w/ towers). So I'd like to know how much i need to make up with loren. Whether or not I hit the 32k will be determined by how generous will runes drop from Lumel. as my main issue is a lack of substantial CD on my 2 will runes. slot 5 is 35% attack, and slot 3 is like 15 cd 5cr, with only hp/def . . . I'll probably be spending most this month hard grinding fire and light rift (vamp kro was enough to SSS light. and my current bale SSS's wind w/ fran, bastet, mav as buffers) for her fight runes.
TBH I'm not sure if it's 1k or 2k per hit. Erring on the side of caution, call it 2k That would be 2k*3 + 1k, or about 7k damage you'd need from Loren. Your effective hp is awesome, but it's overkill. If it's possible for you to trade down to about 90k e.hp and boost the damage, you'll be fine. (Just make sure you're getting the e.hp calculation from a reliable source, like SWOP). Also, the e.hp you need is after towers, not before :) So even that 4k boost you get from towers - that counts! Good luck on the fight rune farming!!!
@@XennialGamer the hp is only that high because basically every rune has an hp% sub on it that's grinded. unfortunately my main issue is the slot 6. it's 15% hp (grinded), 10% def (grinded), 21 spd (grinded), 9 cd . . . . which is a sizeable hit to dmg. I could reapp it, but as a f2p it's already a usable rune. Maybe i'll put 3 into it and see what happens, since it is a difficult slot to obtain which if it gets CD, would solve literally everything. regardless of the other stats on it
:( i did a few reapps. . . . 6 i think Certainly worth it. Though i'm sad i had to pass up a 21 and 24 base speed. the finished product 13% hp (ungrinded) 6% cr 180 flat hp (ungrinded) 25 cd brings me to 32,255 on 3rd hit. (once i get a gem + grind for slot 1. 31.3k till i get those).
@@cyborgtemplar1989 If you have a flat atk gem, I'd gem the def% on the slot 6 for flat attack. That would help you a lot now, but then you could always gem it to something else later :)
@@XennialGamer The rune in that slot has changed dramatically. no longer has def%. i traded it in for a 25 cd 13% hp, 6% cr, 180 hp. I can swap either cr or flat hp out (likely flat hp). atm that rune swap has me 7 speed too slow with my towers which i can obtain by 5 different sources (slot 6/4 rage both have a free grind slot. and 2/5 (rage/will) have a speed sub i can grind). Do that plus an atk% gem on slot 1 and i'm at 32k on the dot. A fair bit of maneuverability with grinds which should help once i get em. Once i hit the speed threshold i'm free to gem them as i please.
e.hp is a mixture of hp and defense after accounting for towers and leads, stands for effective hp :) With max towers it's roughly 19-20k hp and 900 defense, or a bit less hp/more def, or a bit more hp/less def, etc. There's calculators that can tell you e.hp, or the optimizer does it for you too
So a couple of reasons... first is that Loren actually does nearly the same damage overall. Shaina has higher base atk, but slightly lower multipliers (averaged out) because her s2 is AOE. Also, Shaina's animations (s1 vs. s2) run at different speeds, and she uses them randomly, so that can cause the run to de-sync. It gets worse if some people use loren and others use Shaina. Usually it just means losing half a second on the run (no biggie) - but once in a blue moon it can cause a fail also. BTW - Shaina's lead is actually dungeon atk% :).
Nice my take on shaina is that because she is a fire unit she can use all leader skill and use a much damage build because her pasive gives her 50% acc that is enough to effectively deff break the boss and maybe help the rune requirement of the team i dont know you are the expert i dont have my bjr5 yet
@@elijoabruiz552 Gotcha, I misunderstood what you meant about the leader skill. True she benefits from the Shihwa lead, and she doesn't need any accuracy from runes! It's just that the synchronization matters more than the damage benefit. As long as everyone's Bales do 32k you don't need any damage from Loren tbh. If you're curious, Ace and I tested the Loren vs. Shaina damage when we were testing for his 2nd placement video (ruclips.net/video/5d9Kgq-zUeg/видео.html) and the Loren runs ran significantly smoother - even when we were both using Shaina.
I didn't write the chart - but yeah it would account for fight sets, max skilled bale and assume max towers. So if you don't have max towers, add 2% of 790 base damage for every level of tower not maxxed. I.e. if your fire tower is 7, then you need to add 6% of 790 (about 47) attack on top of what the chart requires.
Because if she gets slowed it can wreck speed tunining. In theory if she's enough faster than Loren it might work without will - but I don't know exactly how much faster she'd have to be. And she can't be over 189 or 190 or she outspeed teh bodd.
@@ruipereira9263 Never be sorry and please ask questions any time you have them! That's the whole purpose of the channel, to help explain "why" of things :) Very welcome!
@@XennialGamer just because you were nice I'm subscribing and tell everyone on my channel about you :) and btw do you have any video about db10 teams? 😅 I'm kinda lost even when I have +900 days on sw
I've said before, the single biggest recommendation I can make for anyone looking to move through mid-game and towards end game is an R5 team. It takes time to get there for sure. But it's definitely worth farming necro and focusing on getting that team when you're able :)
Effective hp is a measure of both HP and DEF combined. There's a math formula for it, but it's complex - the optimizer is the best way to calculate it. My in "building BJR5" video I show how to get the e.hp of Bale and others :)
Sorry this is an older video, and I'm not sure specifically which question you're referring to. But I'd be careful with shields, make sure that you account for those when runing colleen so she dies on the jump.
Channel 65 for BJr5. Channel 333 was for BSR5, though I'm not sure anyone still does it. I don't know if there's a channel for R5 specifically, I think most people just use the "match" function. However, on Discord there's a Summoners War Hub and it has a channel for R5 where people can find more stable groups.
Baleygr S2 must be max skilled. None of the other monsters "need" to be skilled. But since you can skill up Janssen from the shop buying 2 stars, and Loren from SD, it's not bad to skill them up :) Provides a tiny bit more offense - from Loren to make the runs safer, from Janssen in case of a derp. Colleen there's no point to skill up either way (unless you have OCD like me haha).
Hi Dat, max towers are not required to build a bjr5 raid team. However, "newbies" probably don't have good enough runes. You'll need a pretty strong rage set for Baleygr, and some decent-ish fight runes for Loren and Janseen (the rest use junk runes). That means being able to farm Necro and Fire Rift a lot. I'd say most mid-gamers can build this team either with the runes they have, or with a few weeks of farming. But early gamers probably cannot.
It's an old bug that has to do with Dagora actually. For colleen to have perfect AI there needs to be a monster at 30% health. On some update like many months ago, the Dagora's got glitched and resurrect with 30.01% health or something, I guess it was a rounding error. Anyway TLDR: remove a rune from dagora and re-add it, or just enchant the slot 5 one time, and it'll fix it.
You can honestly get there crazy quickly now with B12s. You just have to spend some time farming R3 or R4 as well for the gems and grinds, and level 1 of the artifact dungeons and get white artifacts for the free stats :)
Hmn is that your acct? XennialGamer!! I think if we play together your team creates a problem. For sure your Colleen will derp. First time I see your team in your video. 2to3 times in 10 to 15 runs your colleen derp that's for sure.
@@XennialGamer I don't think you never get derp even one's. Even some of my guild mate guardian's derp but when I told them to level up their dragora they actually believe it and never derp since I gave them the tip. I told them not to 6* also Janssen and fran a waste of time and just made them tanky. My baleghyr stats 258cdg 70 crit rate 1690 attack but hits 34/35k and not max of the legendary sword. But thnx for your video ✌ bro.
@@avelinonavalta1649 There's a bug that came in a few months ago where Colleen would derp. Changing a rune (any rune) on Dagora, or leveling him to level 4 fixes it. Once it's fixed, no derping :p
I'm not sure how accurate it is either - but my Bale is 259cd and +1726atk, and is hits for 33.8 - 34.6k. The stats in the spreadsheet you had were 260cd and +1764 atk which is super close to my Bale, and it showed 35.8k. But it also had 13 fight sets listed, and there should only be 12 fight sets. So it's close, but it might be slightly off.
IMPORTANT NOTE: In the video I accidentally said Colleen must be 10,000 effective hp (e.hp.). THIS WAS A BRAIN FART, MY BAD!
She should be 25k e.hp (typically that means about 10k HP which was what I transposed in my mind lol).
Just curious why are u using loren when shaina is 100% def break when loren only has 75 %
@@davidlider1596 The main reason is that Loren's S1 and S2 animations take the same amount of time, while Shaina's do not. So using Shaina can cause the teams to de-sync and lead to slower runs or, once in a blue moon, an outright fail.
@@XennialGamer tnx for replying, i never knew hasn't happened to me or maybe I'm just not focusing all the time, btw great content!
Wud be cool if you did account reviews on sun :)
@@davidlider1596 Yeah the fail result is super rare, it would really only happen if someone else's team was built incorrectly also, it basically would prevent the dagora derp protection from protecting you. But the de-syncing causes runs to slow by about 0.5sec. You can tell if all 3 teams are built completely correctly, runs will always be between 27.3 and 27.7 or 27.8sec. If the run goes to 27.9s or longer, there's either a Shaina or a problem in one of the teams.
For this Sunday I'm planning to do rta/rush hour. But I've been getting really bored of Arena lately haha. So I might switch it up and do some acct reviews on Sundays as well!
@@XennialGamer awesome! and thnx for ur content and input again realy appreciated!
This actually helped me fix my team. I was wondering what I was doing wrong, finally figured out that my Janssen was dying. I got that resolved, and my team is synced up perfectly. Thank you so much!
Took a break for almost 2 years just came back to sw, this is the best video on this i have seen by far...thank you.
Wow thanks Kallus, I really appreciate that! :)
well explained. this video finally made my BJR5 stable. thanks!
hi, i didnt see this video yet, but some people use the fire giant warrior instead of the dagora which is not very good because his revive-animation is a little bit slower and therefore the bale in this team is gonna attack a tiny bit later than the other ones. That means, the run is gonna be a little slower and for people without the dagora insurance, they might even wipe. Great video though and keep it up, really enjoyed it :D (sorry for my bad english :/ )
Hi Alpha, that's great feedback, thanks for sharing! I actually had not seen Vidurr used in BJR5, I think I must have gotten lucky :p Definitely, anything that de-syncs the animations can cause problems in the run, so I 100% agree - we should all be using Dagora as the standard!!
@@XennialGamer i also can tell you that you dont need max towers at all. I am running BJR5 with only CD tower level 10. Speed Level 8, fire atk Level 4 and normal atk Level 3. My Bale does around 32k so towers are not a big deal. I also dont have HP/Deff tower (both Level 1) and i survive. (My Bale has +1800 atk, 235% CD and 100k EHP)
@@alphahipposw1318 Indeed - that point actually is addressed in the video ;) Towers don't need to be max, they just lower the rune requirement
@@XennialGamer yeah i know^^
You're the man, just setting my bjr5 units up. Thanks. Also caught your redo on Barbara :)
That's awesome Travis - good luck with the BJR5 team! :)
oh hey! it's you again! haha your video on the lab boss, Leo helped me alot! and i was just starting to build my first bj5 team and this video proves super helpful as well. very very descriptive and your explanation is very thorough! I'm farming for more mana now to make adjustments to my team's runes. got my team ready and stick some runes on them. gonna start working out the kinks like eHP, speed tuning, leveling up runes and grinding/gem. well at least i got something to do now with the game.
really appreciate your effort man! you're the best! definitely +subbed!
Heya Ben, that's just really awesome to hear that the Leos and BJR videos helped you!! Good luck with getting the BJR team up and running - that truly is the "next stage" of the game, once you can mass farm BJR5, and thank you for the sub and the comment, really appreciate it! :)
@@XennialGamer may i ask which server are you playing in?
@@Flyboy_ Global server :)
Would really love to join you in your live feed and get a review on my account! =D especially my bj5 team!
17 on Janssen is enough for the Boss not to cut. Nice Guide tho! Rly like ur content.
Thanks Zeiloth! I really appreciate both the comment and the info - I never actually tested his bottom speed, that's useful
to know :)
YT Algo recommended your channel to me today! Glad I found it! directly subbed after watching the first vid. :)
Thanks Richard - that's really awesome, both that you enjoyed the content and that RUclips is starting to recommend me!!
Good explanation dude.. I loves your videos. Shout out from Malaysia!
Woot thanks Muhammad, I really appreciate the comment - and Malaysia, very very cool!!
it's september and people still do not build their dagora to go in between Janssen and Bale
Thanks for the thorough explanation! c:
interesting point about crit dmg loren. makes me wonder if that is an argument for using shaina over her because she gets all the benefits from the leads as well.
So when Ace and I tested for his 2nd placement video, we thought the same thing and tested this out (I even built a 2nd Shaina just for the test.. sad face. haha).
Unfortunately, Shaina's overall damage is only a tiny bit higher than Loren's. Shaina has higher base attack and benefits from Shihwa lead, but has lower multipliers on the S2 because it's AOE. Shaina also creates synchronization issues, because her S2 animations is much slower than S1. Usually this just means a half-second lost on the run (no biggie), but once every blue moon it can cause a fail if she slows your team down enough that your Loren acts after the others' Baleygr.
The most important thing that this video showed me was that I am still not ready to build this team. Back to farming for me.
LOL.. I hope you're able to build it soon. If nothing else, at least it showed you what to do when you're ready :p
Really well done and explained thank you .👍
Thanks Nathan!! :) Also if you're building this team, check out the "building bjr5" video it's a more detailed tutorial :)
Hey XG I watched a stream of yours recently and someone asked about the fodder needing skill-ups in bjr5 do they? (degora kali etc)I don't quite remember.
Heya Raheem, the 3* level 1 fodder (dagora + leader) definitely do not. The Loren and Janssen honestly do not either - but it doesn't hurt to give them skillups as derp protection if you're bored or OCD :p The loren skillups add a tiny bit of extra overall damage, and Janssen's S2 actually can do decent hp scaling damage if it's skilled up.
In both cases, the skillups don't add much overall, and aren't needed if the teams are built properly though.
@@XennialGamer I don't have a question about bjr5, but I have a question about runes in general. I just got flat defense rune slot 4 legend will rune. it rolled into 22 speed is it worth the keep since its a flat stat as the main? (I'm so torn I don't know what to do)
@@raheemsmith2433 I would probably keep it. It's one slot out of 700 for a 26/27spd slot 4 rune. I would use it very sparingly - maybe for an attack bar boooster in siege or something ("depth" - not your primary, but like your 3rd or 4th ATB for example).
That's actually why I don't roll flat slot 4/6. If you win, you lose because you're so torn hahaha. But TBH - I know most people SHOULD roll them. If it was 28spd and grinded to 33, it'd be amazing for a booster too.
I know I am a bit late but: my colleen doesn’t buff every 15-20 runs.
What’s the problem? I have a bear that dies and comes back with 30%hp. My colleen gets around 50% hp if the boss hits her in the backline. Would be glad about an explanation
Heya Loma, so there's a weird bug that happened idk, maybe 6 months ago, after one of the updates, where this happened to some people (including me). No idea what caused it - seems like maybe the Dagora is resurrecting with 30.01% hp or something, which leads to some Colleen derps.
The fix is easy - just change Dagora's runes in any way. Enchant the slot 5 once, remove/re-add a rune, etc. That should fix it :)
Thanks hope it’s fixes it. Thought i was doing something wrong.
Keep up the great content!
never have a prolem with my slow +12 spd jansen maybe because of using will rune fightx2 so my jansen never get slow debuff. What i think make most run fail is:
1. They dont have enough damage on either their loren or any other units that do armor break. And if it does sometimes they dont even have enough effective hp
2. Their bale and colleen doen't have enough effective hp(because many still using fran which heal is lacking compared to colleen heal)and sometimes the colleen have too much effective hp ann she doens't die when the boss jump
3. Bale don't do enough damage
4. Optional but alot of people never build dagora insurance. Which you make dagora a little bit faster than your jansen
Very interesting X3mn5. I've seen a lot of runs fail due to Janssen being too slow, but they were always triple fight. I suspect that you're right - the issue there is a slow janssen getting a slow debuff, so double fight/will would allow you to make him slower :)
Awesome content as always!
Thanks Kashy!! I really appreciate that! :)
Hey I know I'm very late to the part but I noticed your Colleen is 4*, I 6*'d mine for Necro do I need to make a new one or does 6* still work. Just trying to make sure it won't scuff anything.
Colleen is easiest to rune at 4* yeah. It's essential that she dies on the jump, so she needs to be at right aroujnd 25k e.hp.
dagora>jansen>bale spd tuning saves runs, if dagora attacks, it's another red flag that somebody needs to gtfo and fix their team :) nice guide boss!
Yeah the logic is definitely there on the Dagora speed tune. TBH I just hadn't done it yet because I got tired of the fails and stopped raiding in 65 much :p It's really only needed if someone's team is flawed - but using my own logic against it, it's one of those "there's no reason not to do it" things too! :p I actually went out and adjusted the speed tuning after I posted the video haha.
i have an issue. some times on my runs my balegyr after the first 50% animation doesnt lvl 5 charge... why is that?
Sounds like your colleen may be too tanky, and not dieing
@@XennialGamer i saw it and fixed it. now its ok... thank you for the reply :)
You mentioned that it's a misconception that Colleen does not need will runes because the boss sometimes applies oblivion on the first hit. But my question is why does it matter if colleen gets Oblivioned? She doesn't have a passive skill. Does this have something to do with her AI when under oblivion status effect?
No, for Colleen it's about the slow. If she has no will and boss applies slow it can change turn order :)
@@XennialGamer Oh so the boss can apply slow. TIL, thanks! Didn't regret watching the whole thing after this quick response.
@ 10:53 what do you mean by effective 85k hp? How does he nuke with that much hp?
Funny timing. I just released a detailed BJR5 building video today :) The effective hp is how tanky bale is (hp+def). The new video explains how to use the optimizer to find that number: ruclips.net/video/Vds2qoUwL0I/видео.html
My team seems to work, but every once and a while my Jansen doesnt take a turn after the second jump and my team wipes. Thoughts?
I can't be sure without seeing the run, but it SOUNDS like that may be a "short on damage" issue. If the Baleygr's don't do enough damage, then Janssen could be taking his turn before the jump and with everything still alive, he'd use his S1 or something instead of resurrecting.
That's a guess though - like I said, it's hard to say for sure without seeing the fail.
Did u have dagora insurance? Basically make ur dagora spd faster than janseen abit.
Exactly the same problem as me, sometimes the dragon hit faster than jansen can revive
@@ivanthedy6857 Yeah boosting your Dagora's speed to act between Janssen and Baleygr may help with this. Also there's a weird derp where Dagora seems to resurrect with 30.01% hp, and then Colleen doesn't always buff. This happened several updates ago. The fix is just to change any 1 rune on Dagora and then he resurrects properly again. So pay attention if Colleen is missing any buffs you can do that (leveling Dagora once is supposed to also fix it).
Xennial Gaming so basically it’s baley > dagora > jensen ?
Hey Xennial idk if you will check this as its been 7 months, but i have a problem were boss cuts loren and kills dagora again which causes a fail. Do you know why this happens? My loren is +41 spd and it still happens, loren is also on will. If you can know how i can solve it, it would help me a lot.
Heya, DM me screen shots of your team's stats in Discord, and I'll take a look :) My discord server is in the description of any video, except maybe a few of the oldest ones.
@@XennialGamer yo ty, but a guildie helped me solve the issue. It was because my loren was 4 spd too slow, ty for the help tho
@@kyo4386 Ahh that makes sense, really glad you got it worked out!
What causes Loren to desync after jump everything runs the way it should but my Loren hit after everyone else's most times and I normally get 28s
This video is older, since the artifact update runes went to 28s for everyone. Not sure why :/. As for the Loren de-syncing, I'm not positive but it could be a speed tuning issue. Does your colleen move before Loren? You can try asking in Discord it's hard to know exactly without more info in this case: discord.gg/nrfUDVc
@@XennialGamer my team goes colleen Loren baleygr Jansen colleen dies on jump but I am using a LVL 1 fire art master as leader my baleygr animation is synced but Loren isn't I get 28 seconds every run so that's a relief.
could you put your jansenn in the back row? or would that reck something/// also do you have any tips for getting better fight runes
Janssen can go back row yeah :) It's just safer to have him in the FL - if he's BL, then your Bale and Loren needs to be tankier. For fight runes, you just have to farm fire rift and craft them. It's a long process, but keep in mind that you don't need high quality runes at all for BJR5, except on Bale - all the other monsters can be made with much lower quality runes :)
Xennial Gaming yeah i’m just having troubles for jansenn being tanky enough, and fran/colleen don’t need will correct
@@ryandanbrook4053 Colleen does need will actually. If the boss lands slow on her then it can mess up the speed tuning or result in her derping.
Xennial Gaming if she’s on an extra fight set do you know how much faster she’ll have to be in order to go ahead even if she’s slowed?
@@ryandanbrook4053 I'm not sure if anyone has tested. I'd guess +30 or +40, but I'm not sure. I know if you make her too fast she can cut the boss also tho, so you'd have to be careful with your speed tuning (max speed is like 189 or 191, around there).
Hey ! just 1 question might be obvious but I was just currious if Coleen , Janssen and Dagora have to be fully max skill ? ty in advance ! its probably really obvious but I just wanted to be sure.
Heya Lyrok - they do not have to be skilled at all. I did skill my Janssen buy buying 2* vikings from the shop, but that was mainly about OCD hahaha.
@@XennialGamer Ty very much! Btw was does OCD mean ?
@@XxLyrokxX98 Hehe obsessive-compulsive disorder. Though in this context I don't really mean I have it, it's more of a perhaps American expression where it's like "I feel compelled to do something unnecessary because it makes me feel good/better/complete" something like that I guess :)
@@XennialGamer AH! thank you very much
Is the speed for all of them including max speed tower?
Yeah that all assumes max speed tower, so adjust accordingly if your tower isn't max. Janssen needs I believe 131 combat speed, Bale 139 combat speed, then Loren just 1 faster than Bale, etc.
@@XennialGamer ah ok, thank you so much
my Loren is + 84 spd is this to much or what is the maximum spd you should have to not cut before the boss attacks
I believe the max is around 190 (might be 191, 189, somewhere around there) :).
@@XennialGamer thanks bro appreciate it!
@@hideathwing Anytime!
Does 3x fight with 27 speed on jansen still good even u got speed decreas from boss? Will bos cut after jump?
Nope with +27 speed you'll be fine even if the boss slows you :)
sir ty so much, my jansen sometime got cut with 17 speed. so I use will to prevent the speed debuff. with my 27 speed jansen, even he got speed debut, he don't get cut, so now I can use 3x fight
@@salim6800 You're very welcome, I'm glad you got the team to be more stable now! :)
@@XennialGamer sir, how about balegyr, what is his minimum speed. i use shaina, and sometimes my balley got cut. he is on 30 speed
@@salim6800 +30 speed should be fine with Baleygr. Of course I assume he's on will runes (preventing slow). You may be getting cut because you use Shaina and the animations aren't syncing with the other teams when they use Loren. Or you may be getting cut because the speed tuning of the other monsters isn't correct, or someone else is missing will runes and they are getting slowed and changing turn order. It's even possible you're getting cut because one of your partners' teams is not built correctly (for example you'd be cut if you+partners didn't have enough damage output to force the boss to jump when the Baleygrs attack the first time).
My suggestion is to record your gameplay for a while, until the problem happens. Then watch the recording slowly, and see which monster(s) are acting out of sequence. That helps much more to identify the problem :)
Why not making the colleen a bit tankier and frontline aswell to reduce the effective hp needed for Baleygr?
Because you need Colleen to die when the boss jumps. If she doesn't die, then Baleygr doesn't get back to 5 stacks and Janssen doesn't boost Baleygr's attack bar enough to cut back in front of the boss's next turn (his resurrect boosts attack bar based on the number of monsters resurrected).
@@XennialGamer Well my thought wasn't to make her tanky enough to survive the jump. Just that if you made her a bit tankier in general, she should be tanky enough to survive first attack while being in frontline and still die to the jump. Overall making it possible to have 4 man frontline and therefore require less stats on the Baley. Or am I missing something?
@@TheMusikYarl A tanky Janssen in the frontline will cover you for that :) I think your idea could reduce the requirement for Janssen perhaps, but probably not for Bale. However, I'm not sure what the calculations would need to be for Colleen to reliably die in the front line and Jannseen to reliably live in that situation, it would have to be tested for.
@@XennialGamer Well as far as I know, 4 in front line reduces the requirements even more for both front and backline. Therefore I was thinking of putting Colleen and Janssen in frontline. But figured there might be something against it since noone else is doing it. Can come back with more info, when I've tried it
@@TheMusikYarl Basically, some of the bosses attacks hit frontline only, and some hit AOE. For the frontline only attacks, if the allies there die, the boss then moves on the backline. More frontline monsters will share the damage, giving them a better chance to survive the bosses attack. So in theory yeah if Colleen is frontline, it would lower the effective hp requirement of Janssen. But I think you'll find that creates some "scary" randomness too. Because the boss can crit, crush, or normal hit, so you can't control which of the multi-hits that Colleen dies on. So even if you set her in a correct effective hp range for her to die, if you run your Janssen at too low of an effective hp, he could still wind up wiping.
I'm sure it's possible to do, but it would require a lot of testing to find a safe range that doesn't cause fails. That's likely why nobody has tried it :) Getting Janssen to the 170k e.hp he needs isn't too bad, if you just do slot 2/4/6 as all either hp or def% runes, he should be at that level after they are max (probably before they max) even with no other hp/def in subs.
U can also run Vidurr instead of dagora, right?
So.. I remember having this discussion with someone about 6 months ago, and they had a good reason not to use Vidurr at the time. I totally can NOT remember the reason, nor can I see it myself from looking at the skill descriptions *rofl*. So the best I can say is... it seems like you should be able to run him, but someone once gave me a reason that I bought into for not doing so.
Can you put colleen on the front line too so balegr doesnt need as much hp?
You could put Colleen on the FL, but I don't think it would lower the Baleygr e.hp requirement. Basically, if the whole FL wipes, then the boss hits the BL more. But you only need one monster in the FL to survive to prevent that. So as long as Jannsen is at 170k+ ehp, then Bale is fine at 85k+ (though 88k+ is better). In theory, I suppose moving colleen to the FL, she might disperse the damage Jannsen takes, and lower his e.hp requirement. But I can't be sure by how much, if any - and 170k isn't too hard to reach with him since he doesn't need any other stat :)
one thing that I'm not sure about. is how much dmg do you lose on bale if he is 31k. is it 1k per hit that you're missing? so having loren cd offsets it a bit.
I ask since after i get a rage grind + gem for slot 1 (even blue) i'll be at 30,965 (8 atk, and fire atk tower w/ max cd). max towers bring me to 31.5k. My effective hp is at 106k (added quite a bit since i also have low hp/def towers. 110k w/ towers). So I'd like to know how much i need to make up with loren. Whether or not I hit the 32k will be determined by how generous will runes drop from Lumel. as my main issue is a lack of substantial CD on my 2 will runes. slot 5 is 35% attack, and slot 3 is like 15 cd 5cr, with only hp/def
. . . I'll probably be spending most this month hard grinding fire and light rift (vamp kro was enough to SSS light. and my current bale SSS's wind w/ fran, bastet, mav as buffers) for her fight runes.
TBH I'm not sure if it's 1k or 2k per hit. Erring on the side of caution, call it 2k That would be 2k*3 + 1k, or about 7k damage you'd need from Loren. Your effective hp is awesome, but it's overkill. If it's possible for you to trade down to about 90k e.hp and boost the damage, you'll be fine. (Just make sure you're getting the e.hp calculation from a reliable source, like SWOP). Also, the e.hp you need is after towers, not before :) So even that 4k boost you get from towers - that counts!
Good luck on the fight rune farming!!!
@@XennialGamer the hp is only that high because basically every rune has an hp% sub on it that's grinded. unfortunately my main issue is the slot 6. it's 15% hp (grinded), 10% def (grinded), 21 spd (grinded), 9 cd . . . . which is a sizeable hit to dmg. I could reapp it, but as a f2p it's already a usable rune.
Maybe i'll put 3 into it and see what happens, since it is a difficult slot to obtain which if it gets CD, would solve literally everything. regardless of the other stats on it
:( i did a few reapps. . . . 6 i think
Certainly worth it. Though i'm sad i had to pass up a 21 and 24 base speed. the finished product
13% hp (ungrinded)
6% cr
180 flat hp (ungrinded)
25 cd
brings me to 32,255 on 3rd hit. (once i get a gem + grind for slot 1. 31.3k till i get those).
@@cyborgtemplar1989 If you have a flat atk gem, I'd gem the def% on the slot 6 for flat attack. That would help you a lot now, but then you could always gem it to something else later :)
@@XennialGamer The rune in that slot has changed dramatically. no longer has def%. i traded it in for a 25 cd 13% hp, 6% cr, 180 hp. I can swap either cr or flat hp out (likely flat hp).
atm that rune swap has me 7 speed too slow with my towers which i can obtain by 5 different sources (slot 6/4 rage both have a free grind slot. and 2/5 (rage/will) have a speed sub i can grind). Do that plus an atk% gem on slot 1 and i'm at 32k on the dot.
A fair bit of maneuverability with grinds which should help once i get em. Once i hit the speed threshold i'm free to gem them as i please.
Late comment. But balegyr 85k hp sounds impossible unless they (guildies/community) meant 8.5k
e.hp is a mixture of hp and defense after accounting for towers and leads, stands for effective hp :) With max towers it's roughly 19-20k hp and 900 defense, or a bit less hp/more def, or a bit more hp/less def, etc. There's calculators that can tell you e.hp, or the optimizer does it for you too
Yeah I just realized that. mb
Why not use shaina for def break on cd build so she can use the fire crit leader skill
So a couple of reasons... first is that Loren actually does nearly the same damage overall. Shaina has higher base atk, but slightly lower multipliers (averaged out) because her s2 is AOE. Also, Shaina's animations (s1 vs. s2) run at different speeds, and she uses them randomly, so that can cause the run to de-sync. It gets worse if some people use loren and others use Shaina. Usually it just means losing half a second on the run (no biggie) - but once in a blue moon it can cause a fail also.
BTW - Shaina's lead is actually dungeon atk% :).
Nice my take on shaina is that because she is a fire unit she can use all leader skill and use a much damage build because her pasive gives her 50% acc that is enough to effectively deff break the boss and maybe help the rune requirement of the team i dont know you are the expert i dont have my bjr5 yet
@@elijoabruiz552 Gotcha, I misunderstood what you meant about the leader skill. True she benefits from the Shihwa lead, and she doesn't need any accuracy from runes! It's just that the synchronization matters more than the damage benefit. As long as everyone's Bales do 32k you don't need any damage from Loren tbh.
If you're curious, Ace and I tested the Loren vs. Shaina damage when we were testing for his 2nd placement video (ruclips.net/video/5d9Kgq-zUeg/видео.html) and the Loren runs ran significantly smoother - even when we were both using Shaina.
guessing that chart accounts for the fight sets?
edit: and max skilled bale
I didn't write the chart - but yeah it would account for fight sets, max skilled bale and assume max towers. So if you don't have max towers, add 2% of 790 base damage for every level of tower not maxxed. I.e. if your fire tower is 7, then you need to add 6% of 790 (about 47) attack on top of what the chart requires.
@@XennialGamer Looks like I need to be farming necro :/
imagine that view sent me here subbed and liked
why collen need will? she does not have any passive so the oblivious doesn't matter on her.
Because if she gets slowed it can wreck speed tunining. In theory if she's enough faster than Loren it might work without will - but I don't know exactly how much faster she'd have to be. And she can't be over 189 or 190 or she outspeed teh bodd.
@@XennialGamer that's make sense, sorry and thanks for that explanation.😅
@@ruipereira9263 Never be sorry and please ask questions any time you have them! That's the whole purpose of the channel, to help explain "why" of things :) Very welcome!
@@XennialGamer just because you were nice I'm subscribing and tell everyone on my channel about you :) and btw do you have any video about db10 teams? 😅 I'm kinda lost even when I have +900 days on sw
@@XennialGamer I only have like 8 subs but it's something 😅😅😅
I want to build BJr5 but i don't have rage rune :(
I've said before, the single biggest recommendation I can make for anyone looking to move through mid-game and towards end game is an R5 team. It takes time to get there for sure. But it's definitely worth farming necro and focusing on getting that team when you're able :)
What does effective hp means?
Effective hp is a measure of both HP and DEF combined. There's a math formula for it, but it's complex - the optimizer is the best way to calculate it. My in "building BJR5" video I show how to get the e.hp of Bale and others :)
What about 6* with shield build?
Sorry this is an older video, and I'm not sure specifically which question you're referring to. But I'd be careful with shields, make sure that you account for those when runing colleen so she dies on the jump.
@@XennialGamer so on the spreedsheet it talks about using 6* max elsharion or rica with a shield set
This has made me feel like playing this game is more like being in math class 😣😣😣
which channel can i find teammates for r5 ?
Channel 65 for BJr5. Channel 333 was for BSR5, though I'm not sure anyone still does it. I don't know if there's a channel for R5 specifically, I think most people just use the "match" function. However, on Discord there's a Summoners War Hub and it has a channel for R5 where people can find more stable groups.
Love it
Do we use skill ups?
Baleygr S2 must be max skilled. None of the other monsters "need" to be skilled. But since you can skill up Janssen from the shop buying 2 stars, and Loren from SD, it's not bad to skill them up :) Provides a tiny bit more offense - from Loren to make the runs safer, from Janssen in case of a derp.
Colleen there's no point to skill up either way (unless you have OCD like me haha).
Xennial Gaming thank you! Lol my ocd says skill them all up.
@@sallymae9896 Hehehe... 100% get that! :p
rune build for fran?
You would use Colleen, not Fran - make her 4* level 30, with 25k effective hp :)
is belegyr nuke skill 3? or skill 2
S3 :)
Thx!!!
You're very welcome - thank you! :)
Can newbie build this team without max tower???
Hi Dat, max towers are not required to build a bjr5 raid team. However, "newbies" probably don't have good enough runes. You'll need a pretty strong rage set for Baleygr, and some decent-ish fight runes for Loren and Janseen (the rest use junk runes). That means being able to farm Necro and Fire Rift a lot. I'd say most mid-gamers can build this team either with the runes they have, or with a few weeks of farming. But early gamers probably cannot.
My Colleen sometimes doesn’t heal
It's an old bug that has to do with Dagora actually. For colleen to have perfect AI there needs to be a monster at 30% health. On some update like many months ago, the Dagora's got glitched and resurrect with 30.01% health or something, I guess it was a rounding error.
Anyway TLDR: remove a rune from dagora and re-add it, or just enchant the slot 5 one time, and it'll fix it.
No 1 reason for failing BJ5 = you don't have the runes :) this team need very good runes
You can honestly get there crazy quickly now with B12s. You just have to spend some time farming R3 or R4 as well for the gems and grinds, and level 1 of the artifact dungeons and get white artifacts for the free stats :)
Hmn is that your acct? XennialGamer!!
I think if we play together your team creates a problem. For sure your Colleen will derp. First time I see your team in your video. 2to3 times in 10 to 15 runs your colleen derp that's for sure.
I'm not sure why you say that - I've run tens of thousands of r5s, and she doesn't derp :p
@@XennialGamer
I don't think you never get derp even one's. Even some of my guild mate guardian's derp but when I told them to level up their dragora they actually believe it and never derp since I gave them the tip. I told them not to 6* also Janssen and fran a waste of time and just made them tanky. My baleghyr stats 258cdg 70 crit rate 1690 attack but hits 34/35k and not max of the legendary sword. But thnx for your video ✌ bro.
@@avelinonavalta1649 There's a bug that came in a few months ago where Colleen would derp. Changing a rune (any rune) on Dagora, or leveling him to level 4 fixes it. Once it's fixed, no derping :p
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not sure how accurate it is. But here's a Bale calculator I was using for overall dmg.
drive.google.com/file/d/1vvsGqMhypHQ6QwnKdOcJAvHK5dM_mHxn/view
I'm not sure how accurate it is either - but my Bale is 259cd and +1726atk, and is hits for 33.8 - 34.6k. The stats in the spreadsheet you had were 260cd and +1764 atk which is super close to my Bale, and it showed 35.8k. But it also had 13 fight sets listed, and there should only be 12 fight sets. So it's close, but it might be slightly off.