Is It Safe to Press Bearings Using Sockets? Hydraulic Press Test!
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Is it safe to use sockets to help with installing and removing ball bearings? We try with multiple different sizes using our 150 ton hydraulic press. See the explosion in ultra slow motion! Don't try anything you see on this video at home!
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Thanks to all who suggested this video! I was surprised how strong the sockets were and the video was really interesting to make.
Have you guys made the toilet paper slugs for Taufledermouse?
That's why we use them for pressing in bearings, ball joints, battery terminal clamps, etcetera.
I love how the new RUclips app allows me to slow it down to .25 so I can derive more enjoyment from your video without having to watch it twice.
That first socket could still be useful for whenever you're, if you'll pardon the expression, pressed for space.
Thanks for making this video! This is actually very useful information for people who try this method. Can you make some more safety videos, like how dangerous exploding grinder discs are at high rpm? I'm sure you can get some great footage of grinding and cutting discs embedding themselves into ballistic gelatin, safety glasses, fake eyeballs, zombie head etcetera. And it's all for safety so it should all be okay with RUclips's algorithms :-)
I’ve been using sockets to install bearings and races for years and years and have never had a socket fail. An interesting side note, I’ve never had to use a 150 ton press to do it. 😂
Lol this was in my head the whole time. There's no danger because there's no way you'll be using enough force to make anything steel explode. I love watching shit get mega pressed however.
I was going to say, your typical shop press doesn't generate enough force to explode sockets. And that's a good thing.
Same here. I have a 20 ton press to press on wheel bearings, control arm bearings, transmission bearings, etc. Never had a problem using impact sockets.
I was a professional mechanic from 1973 until 2008. I installed literally thousands of bearings with sockets and my Snap-On dead blow hammer, or a ball peen and a large brass drift on the outside cage. Never had a problem.
Same here, I've probably pressed over a thousand bearings with sockets in or out and I only ever had a problem once where a bearing did explode while pressing it out at about 60 tons. Most others went much better
"We are now approaching stupid territory" my kind of territory.
Always approach stupid territory backwards, so they think you're leaving.
Hey where did all you people come from? Shut up I'm tryna watch Ow My Balls
Somebody needs to make a T-shirt of this.
@@alakani "go a way I'm baitin!"
"So here is the slowmotion... and...... I'm going to fast forward this pretty much." Best line ever
🎵Let's do the Time Warp again. 🎶
"Can it explode?". We certainly hope so!
All my hopes and dreams in life are counting on more explosions. 💥👍😁
Been doing it that way to install or remove bearings and bushings of all types for over 2 decades and had zero socket failures so I say, yes it's safe.
Agree. They are solid and not gonna snap before the bearring has seated. Ofcourse if you keep pressing it will snap. Anything will.
this is the same way I was taught 30 years ago - a decent reliable method, just make sure it's the right size socket - good video
I had one but nothing major happened it just cracked down the side 😂
I'm going to guess you didn't need a 150t press, lol.
Agreed, we would do this to replace certain bearings on aircraft that we didnt have money or patience to buy or machine a bearing press. Easy stuff
4:10 "Almost died."
The world is anxious for a compilation video of the "Almost died" moments. 😵😀
Most videos used to have subtitles, but now I don't see even auto-subs, at least on the mobile app. Using subtitles, it shouldn't be too hard to make such compilation 🤔
Think the funniest was when he was returning from the supermarket and almost went arse over tit on ice...
I would love a 'Almost died' compilation.
@bachelors of trolling degree, 2013 I'm anxious about my choice of words, and I eagerly await the anticipated corrections. 👍😊
Take another look at the 25 mm socket at 10:07, I don't think there was any shrapnel. It looks like the socket just split at one of the interior corners.
Exactly what I was going to say, both ends of the break appear to match up perfectly.
Yeah, that socket had no taper, so it had to split to accommodate the top part
I was going to comment the same
'' everybody has plenty of sockets laying around ''
The man knows his audience!
✌️ From the 🇬🇧 😎
send me your spare 10 and 13mm sockets then!
A good video would be threading a nut onto a large bolt and seeing how much pressure is required to strip the nut. Try grade 5 and grade 8.
there like cheese 😂🤣😂
Are grade 5 and 8 bolts a thing in Europe? I think class 8.8 and 10.9 are rough equivlants to SAE grades 5 and 8.
@@tedhaubrich we have even class 12.9, which is about 20% stronger then grade 8 ;-)
And as for the equivalents of 10.9 and 8.8 - they're quite spot on with grade 8 and 5.
@@AKAtheA we have a9 bolts which are comparable to 12.9 in sae sizes
You dont need a press to test this just tighten the bolt untill it strips.. its the same thing
On the bright side, you have a new shallow socket now!
My thoughts
And it's torque-limiting!
Needed one yesterday when I was working on my car.
"So now we are approaching stupid territory."
I don't think anything flew away from the mid sized socket. It just split.
You should keep the big socket btw. You never know when you need a low profile socket ;)
Wait. Bearings aren't supposed to explode when you install them?
Your ballistic gel is getting almost as dirty as Taofledermaus's. And speaking of which, Jeff still hasn't received the toilet paper slugs, he said in a recent video. It's nobody's fault (except the shipping company), but at this point, it might be a good idea to just make more of them and pick a different shipping provider if possible. I'll cover the shipping myself if you want. Make lots of them if you do, so the final video is extra special when they finally do get to shoot them after this unfortunate wait.
I don't think a socket lifetime warranty covers anything featured on the Hydraulic Press channel.
Just tell them you left it on the dash over lunch.
I dont think any lifetime warranty is valid with hydraulic press channel or AvE lol
Mastercraft would take them back. Not that I've... uh... ever...
@@Friend_of_the_One-Eyed_Ladies I work for Canadian Tire. I've refused abuse.
*@Hydraulic Press Channel*
7:54 Lauri, I think you have invented a new word:
*ShitUation* = A shit Situation.
(I know you said Situation, but it sounded like ShitUation)
No fair, I've been using that one for years now
Thank you. I invented the word back in 2015 when I came back to my home and found my bulmastiffs dog (60kg) massive shit middle of my living room. I filmed it and called it shituation.
I've always used the thermal difference method for installing bearings in bike engines/gearboxes.
At 0:45 "everybody has lots of sockets laying around…" We are a rare breed. One of Gods original creatures. Too weird to live too rare to die.
*Can you film things with the FLIR showing how hot things get when bent crushed? Interesting to see how hot a nail gets being pushed in or removed. Stuff gets way hotter quicker then most would expect* Show a side by side of the flir and high speed, how hot did these bearings get before they exploded?
You have the most satisfying channel I have ever seen. Thank you for doing all of these!
I absolutely 100% love all of them!!
This video was actually useful. Thank you for testing Biltema sockets in this way. Hydraulic presses are not idiot proof, so thank you also for instructing the general public to use protective gear. Stay safe and steer clear of eye punctures!
My grandpa taught me to use sockets of the proper size, but always using a brass hammer specifically to avoid these issues. You can actually feel the bearing’s movement.
Another great video, I always learn something.
As both a tech and a machinist I can tell you that I use sockets all the time to press stuff and have not ever had one break or shatter or split or deform at all.
Would like to see if impact sockets are stronger.
Contrary to popular belief, impact sockets are slightly less hard than regular sockets, and they're black because they don't have the ultra-hard chrome plating that regular sockets do. The reason for this is so that they don't shatter, and so that they don't destroy the flats on your impact wrench. You can tell when an impact wrench is regularly used with standard sockets, because the flats will be beaten to hell and eventually develop so much play that it defeats the purpose of using an impact wrench. Also, because they are softer, impact sockets are more likely to round off bolt heads when used with hand tools. The nature of impact wrenches keeps you from rounding off bolts unless you're using the wrong size socket, or one that's so worn out that it might as well be the wrong size.
@@puckcat22679 exactly why I want to see the difference.
@@octacle_ exactly.. my thoughts are that they will stretch instead of explode.
@@puckcat22679 The chrome plating doesn't make the socket harder. It's only the outside surface. It makes the outside surface harder to resist the inside of the socket from wearing down. You can get black nitride or chrome standard (not impact) sockets. It's like wearing jeans when you walk through the woods, so thorns don't scratch up your legs. It stops the scratches, but you could fall and break your leg just as easily.
Andrew Delashaw that's why I mentioned both the hardness of the base material AND the plating. You can get non-plated standard sockets, and they'll be harder (and thus less impact resistant) than impact sockets. But you can't get chrome plated impact sockets.
I’ve pressed 100’s of bearings into their hubs etc and never had any failures like this! Lmao..
HPC Make it extreme!
Impact sockets on a press, regular sockets with a hammer. Slo-Mo was cool. Thanx.
Snub nose sockets are easier to conceal.
6:40 best voice crack 😂 Love u guys!! Just good people making good content
4:10 i almost died watching you almost dying
4:13 "Uhhh, almost died!" Bwahahhahahahahahaha
It's a good thing you manned up and handled that clam shell. Kudos.
Ive been doing this for many years. Works fine, and you can match the proper socket size to the bearing. I also use pipes to press on larger bearings.
This channel is absolutely the most satisfying on RUclips.
A girl I used to work with got her finger cut off on a press we used for pressing bearings into a Harley Davidson transmission sprocket. The press only ran on maybe 80 psi so it wasn't super powerful. I never saw it shoot a bearing. But this girl was assembling a part and the bearing was off center, which was no big deal, the bearing was going into a counter bore and the counter bore had pretty big chamfer on it that helped to guide the bearing into the c/bore. But she stuck her hand in there to try and reposition the bearing mid cycle. There's maybe a 1 second window where you could get your hand in there and she managed to do it. It severed her index finger above the knuckle. The crazy thing was she didn't say a word, i was in charge of that department and I was standing right behind her. She didn't make any noise, she just grabbed her finger and walked into the office. I didn't even know what happened until later.
So that press has a dead man switch on it now. You can't operate without both hands on the buttons. We operated that piece of equipment for probably 2 decades with no mishaps and this girl gets her finger crushed. I'm just glad it wasn't me who trained her.
FYI Taofledermaus is still waiting for your toilet paper shotgun slugs
I try to get enough time to make them on next week. We have had couple really laborious projects during end of the winter.
And here I am years of seating bearings with sockets, never any issues. Although if it's an interference fit, I do heat the housing with a heat gun or even a torch, and freeze the bearing in a ziplock bag. Perhaps, since you live in a frozen winter part of the world, you should test how extreme cold affects metals, or even plastics. I'd bet you could make some interesting explosively shattering objects in a press, after a deep feeze, vs ambient temperatures. Especially since the pressure causes sudden heating of the object under pressure, and this sudden change from extreme cold, to heat, can have some interesting phenomena.
The socket folding in on itself is crazy.
I expected it, the most likely point of failure. Anything with a neck is inherently weak. I used to work with mechanical production and tooling, including eccentric press tools.
Top tip, stick the bearing in the freezer, and heat up the outer metal piece, you will be able to push the bearing in with only a couple of kilos, if it doesn't just drop in! :-)
We use liquid nitrogen at work. Bearings and bushings fall into place 90 percent of the time
Just replaced a wheel bearing using sockets in a 12-ton workshop press. About a 40mm socket. Worked fine.
I took the old bearing out using a sledge hammer and sockets (since the hub wouldn't fit through the press - okay doing it that way since it didn't matter if I damaged the old bearing, it wasn't going to be used again). I wouldn't fit a new bearing that way though! Fortunately, when reassembling, the hub is the other way up so the whole thing will fit in the press.
2:36 when she said not to go deep
I've had cheap Chinese made sockets fail at as low as 1.5 tons but you're always safer using a brass push tool. Great safety tips and a fun video!
You should make "somefting"-shirts
So you didn't actually ruin your 38 mm socket, you just made a special custom shallow socket for those tight areas.
16 year's as a mechanic and never had one exploding
Would impact sockets explode as well? I believe they are supposed to be more ductile. My guess is they will shred a bit of case hardening, then slowly split.
I use a hammer to press the bearing with a socket and a peice of 2x4 to press them in. Works in a jam. Great content.
"Now we are approaching the stupid territory" - best sentence in whole video :D:D:D:D
But just another day at the office for HPC and BTP channels. 👍😀
that was a shit load of power! good technical term that
lmao (stupid territory ) i love the way you talk....great vid!!!
I haven't had to change a large number of bearing and races, but I've found that the simplest tool to put the new part in is the old part that came out. It's the same size and generally has a very smooth face. For small races, I just put the old one over top, then gently tap around the edges with a small hammer. For larger ones such as in a front wheel drive car, I'd put the old bearing on top, then put a scrap of lumber over it then knock it in with a larger hammer. Never encountered a situation where I've needed to put anything in a press.
Its pretty clear that the larger socket failed due to the 'neck' shape, not the inherent weakness of the metal. The smaller sockets are more linear in shape, and do not have that weakness.
A friend of mine failed at becoming an NFL Lineman due to 'neck shape.'
He had one.
Sorry. That wasn't true.
I don't have any friends. 😁
Lmfao the way he says it
What happens if you used a socket a few millimetres too small? If you have enough safety shielding could we see that?
I've had to fix the bearings on my bicycle a number of times and I always got it to go where it's supposed to be using a rubber mallet. The thought of using a socket never crossed my mind because I didn't want to damage the surrounding metal. I've always learned to use a rubber mallet to protect the other surfaces in the area and sometimes to also use pieces of wood whenever the rubber mallet isn't enough (or I can't find it) and I have to use a regular hammer.
Thanks for doing this, as a mechanic I push bearings often..... Albeit not usually using a hydraulic press w/mechanical pump but i do use the hand pump kind. Sockets do work, but actually are usually too small for wheel bearings. Usually what I use is an old Race from a bearing I pushed out previously because those are usually hardened steel and are the exact same size. 😁
You should try to make coffee with hydraulic press
I'm sure that 38mm socket works fine. You might even call it a prototype "torque-limiting" socket.
I would think removing bearings that have been in for years would be the dangerous thing. But the biggest danger still would be rendering the socket unusable as a socket.
Now I call that a stubby socket! They can be pretty expensive from the tool dealer.
Thank you for testing this, I always use them in the press and have wondered if it could explode
This is the first time I've ever seen this guy use a hydraulic press for it's intended purpose!
I pressed hundreds of bearings in and out of housings over 25 years as an auto mechanic... most of them with sockets. Never broke one socket doing it.
"Now we are approaching the stupid territory", that's why I love this channel!!
You, and over 2 million others. What a wonderful world we live in. 👍
I cannot believe that you teased us with that bearing at the end of the video standing on the round edge AND YOU DIDN'T CRUSH IT! We needed to deal with it.
Somewear in the world there is a bolt or nut that that 1.5" mini socket you made fits perfectly and is the only way to get a get on it in a very tight/hard to reach area.
5:48 You got a good scream out of Anni that time.
😱👍
In most cases, the bearings will explode first, the material is much harder, and therefore, more brittle, sockets are hardened somewhat but not as hard as bearing surfaces....more malleable in nature, they can withstand a lot of abuses.
Damn, I love this channel!!
You may have just invented a new tool.
Low profile shallow sockets
I don't even have to watch the video to know that pressing bearings with sockets works. I've done it many times. Is it the right way? No, but still works.
Another amazing video guys keep up the great work!!!!
"We are approaching the stupid territory" that shit got me good
I have a Ballista that the torsion engines are under 10 tons before cocking. They've probably been up to 15 tons each. I'm up grading them now and they will go up to 60 tons each while cocking. So 120 tons of tension on a historically accurate Hatrin Ballista with over 8 tons of draw force. It was already the largest, most powerful Ballista of its kind ever built. Now I'm tripling the power! Ugh Ugh Ugh
Side note: The safety glasses will not save you. Love you guy! :-)
Cool slo-mo sequences!!
Wow, if Lauri uses sockets to press bearings, it's official: everyone does it.
I am absolutely infatuated with this dudes accent.
But.... We always want to approach the *stupid territory* ... It's much more fun there LOL
Good that you give a lot of safety advice near the end. I imagine the companies that make this stuff test them well, but you never know when you might get one with a design fault that is going to explode unusually. You're quite right about the safety goggles...
I’ve done that. Never even thought about it coming apart
Well balanced cyliders are in general pretty strong. I've done this before but only because i didn't habe access to heat at the time.
38mm is about 1 1/2"...13mm is about 1/2" and 25mm is about 1"
120 tons = 240,000 pounds...So he placed over the entire weight of a locomotive onto the top of the 1" circle portion of the socket.
Almost died hahaha I laughed
The second I saw that socket with the "shoulder" on it, I knew what was coming. Lol.
I've been doing this for decades. Always worked.
You didn't lose any material from the socket it spread open. So keep useing your bearings with sockets just dont use 120 tonnes of pressure
"Is It Safe to Press Bearings Using Sockets? "
That depends on the bearing and the socket and if you are using it correctly.
Typically if you use an impact grade socket that is the diameter of the bearing as a straight shot pressing on the outer race, then there will very rarely or never be a problem. Also common sense says to use safety glasses and never stand in the line of fire.
I have pressed well over a 1,000 automotive bearings out of control arms and spindles using various sizes and shapes of steel blocks and giant sockets where applicable.
Your channel rocks! This video answered my question, thank you.
Bearings are quite brittle and explode as you demonstrated. On axle bearings I simply knock the outer race off so as to get the inner race with a bearing seperator. I have had the external race explode while pressing. Though recently I hammered an external race off one and it exploded and bit my leg quite hard.
I have also seen a bearing seperator break, though it was not being used correctly.
Though I only use a 12 ton press!! And in reality probably about 1 ton of its capacity.
Glad to see Goldmember is still in work.
And that's how you make compact sockets! 🧐
"it is pretty toight, toight like a tiger"
Yeah baby Yeah!
He said "...thue thize.."😂😂its evolving something we cant understand😂
You guys need a PIP "Anni Cam" for the reactions!
Was expecting to see that impact socket tested that was visible in the beginning of the video. It kinda disappeared from the lineup. Impact sockets are a lot heavier than chrome sockets, and are made of a different alloy that's not as brittle.
I grind the face of the socket to remove the rounded edge and make it flat. It works better for pushing and it works better as a socket.
"...and now we are approaching stupid territory..."
my new announcement when I go near my kids bedrooms...
"That was shit-load of power" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can you guys try pressing sawdust to see if you could remake a piece of wood.
Ahahah:)
It's called chipboard
Loved that little scream from Anni there on that first socket crush. Did you shiit yourself there Anni? lol :)