ETTORE BASTIANINI e GIUSEPPE DI STEFANO - La forza del destino "Invano Alvaro" (Live 1960)
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Giuseppe Verdi LA FORZA DEL DESTINO "Invano Alvaro" -
Tenore GIUSEPPE DI STEFANO
Baritono ETTORE BASTIANINI
Direttore Dimitri Mitropoulos
Il timbro di Di Stefano è bellissimo e unico al centro; la dizione scandita è chiarissima l'interpretazione è da manuale e la voce è impostata meravigliosamente in alto.Di Stefano e Bastianini una coppia in stato di grazia in una serata indimenticabile. Il confronto con oggi anche nei migliori teatri, questi interpreti insuperabili sembrano provenire da un altro pianeta. Inevitabilmente, hainoi, perduto!
Hai detto bene : la voce è bellissima al centro . E il resto ? Da dilettante .
Di Stefano is a pure genius. Uncomprehendable. Ettore is great too. Lucky audience.
Quando Pippo attacca: "Vissi nel mondo, intendo...", è un brivido....le vibrazioni degli armonici di Di Stefano non sono, propriamente parlando, di questo mondo...un grande visionario...
Immensamente IMMENSI!!! Sono convinto che MAI riascolteremo queste miracolose VOCI. ETERNAMENTE W PIPPO DI STEFANO(Unico) e gigantesco Ettore Bastianini..
Bastianini is pure genius!!! Di Stefano is great TOO if you want!
Bastiannini ha eseguito la più grande interpretazionedi tutti i tempi Di Stefano superbo
Non ci sono aggettivi grandiosi x questi stratosferici interpreti. Infinitamente sublime Pippo, e Ettore Bastianini voce indimenticabile. Grazie all'infinito...
Di Stefano is a singer of the century. Bastianini was one of the best baritones.
Che meraviglia di duetto. Ascoltare queste voci fenomenali è qualcosa di indescrivibile. Un brano che ti fa' conoscere appieno cos'è la musica di Verdi. Grazie a chi ci permette di ascoltare tutto questo!!!
Удивительно как подходят голоса ,тембры ! Шедевр ,просто нет слов ! Огромная любовь и почтение к великим певцам!
It feels like the Bast man is going to bang his way right on through my computer to settle the score. Passion and voice.....great duet......two of the best........what an opera!
Ettore Bastianini was one of the best baritones to ever walk the earth. Giuseppe di Stefano was one the best tenors also. What a winning combination!
No doubt!
GDS is the finest lyric tenor, Bastianini is the most unique baritone deep voice with ton of operatic tragic heavyness!
Stunning performance. This shows whats is missing from the opera scene today. Real singers. Jonas Kaufmann eat your heart out.
God, you pick up the worst that my ears can take. A peach inside his throat.
Yes, Kaufmann has voce ingolata
@ used to be much better.
It is like a giant peach stuffed right on his throat.
So beautifully sung... And to think this was live... Lucky the people who lived at the time and were able to attend these performances. Did they know nothing like this would ever happen again.
Che estasi... grazie a You Tube e un infinito grazie a tutti gli amici che caricano queste sublimi testimonianze di bel canto e interpretazione!!!
Blessed are those who witnessed this LIVE... how can we ever match even half of these glorious singing!
Ettore Bastianini+ Giuseppe Di Stefano= Magnificent combination, Bravo❤‼‼👍
A terrific performance. But let us not forget the brilliant conduction of Mitropoulos.
I due più bei timbri lirici della seconda metà del secolo scorso... il resto é valore aggiunto.
Magnifici. Ettore superlativo, nessuno come lui!
Che coppia?vengono da un altro pianeta Pippo ed Ettore,grandissimi!
Superlativi interpreti!!! Oltre a cantare bene come in questo caso, Ettore Bastianini grandioso, Pippo di Stefano leggendario, danno significato a tutte le parole che cantano con perfetta dizione. Non è da tutti, anzi direi x pochi.
Come sempre Di Stefano con quella voce stupenda fa la differenza!
BRAVI ! Two Glories of Italy ~ la memoria della loro arte prosegue viva in tutto il mondo.
quale grandezza artistica hanno entrambi!!!!!!!
Two Greatest opera legends!
Bastianini e' superbo, anche Di Stefano
Una delle più belle registrazioni con le voci di Di Stefano e di Bastianini, sotto la direzione di Mitropoulos, che dopo due mesi morirà sul podio della Scala, si esibiscono in una delle più grandi prove della storia dell'interpretazione."Le minacce, i fieri , accenti" è, in questa edizione live, forse la più toccante dell'intera opera, quella in cui l'immedesimazione raggiunge l'apice: l'articolazione della parola è tale da far dimenticare il canto e la finzione scenica. Non vi sono termini per descrivere questo momento con il pubblico ....Immortali Di Stefano ,Bastianini diretti da Dimitri Mitropoulos,Orchestra Wiener Staatsoper sommersi dai calorosi applausi,ma è un vero peccato che l'uscita del libro per il centenario di Ettore Bastianini con la Zecchini Editore questa memorabile recita non venga citata!
sublime
MAGNIFICO
Wow Di Stefano. I wouldn't have expected him being so good in this aria. His interpretation is just excellent. Voce suadente, affronta l'aria in maniera sorniona e accattivante. Quanta bellezza.
Una sola parola GRAZIE
Two of the best opera stars ever in a wonderful rendering of this exciting duet-
Blessed technology that allows us to hear this wonder .
Mon Dieu... C'est Magnifique!
Cualquiera de los dos,cada uno en su cuerda,eran fenomenales!que lastima que hayan desaparecido!
Люблю их обоих, они прекрасны в этом дуэте.
Dove si può ascoltare oggi una cosa del genere. Finiti i grandi musicisti e finiti i grandi interpreti, è finita la musica.. Non restano che piccoli artigiani più o meno insignificanti.
Bravissimi, anche come intensità dell'interpretazione!
Just magnificent both of them I’ll die before I’ll witness anything this good again in today’s era 2019
Both, so good two real "pros" showing the way it's done. Bastianini was surely one of the best.
We wuz robbed when we lost him and he hadn't even reached the height of his fame.
Fantastic!
It's kind of funny how Alvaro and Carlo have all these passionate duets while Alvaro barely gets to interact with Leonora for the majority of the evening.
Bravissimi!
superba interpretazione di bastianini . di stefano grande anche se personalmente preferisco del monaco naturalmente senza nulla togliere al grande pippo
condivido
ricordo una leggendaria "forza del destino" al san carlo di napoli con bastaianini,corelli,renata tebaldi diretti da tullio serafin
@@mc9961 la mia preferita👏👏👏
ONE of Verdi's most haunting melodies in the extreme tonality of Aflat minor. Bastianini actually sneers with his voice! Non si placa mi furor!!! No kidding!
Pippo was an incredible lyric tenor! In my opinion on par with Gigli. (Pavarotti told his father that he thought di Stefano was better than Gigli, and took a slap to the face!)
That being said, I like Ettore Bastinini paired with Corelli or del Monaco in this duet!
Undoubtedly Del Monaco and Corelli had bigger voice, but not the interpretive genius of Maestro Di Stefano. He brought more to the role than just a bigger voice.
Very Beautiful
Both Corelli, Tucker and MDM may be more dramatic spinto's in sound for the role and though Bergonzi managed it also, I must say GDS does a great job here being basically a more lyric tenor then they where, and as far as Bjoerling, he avoided it and probably wisely. I really like Bastianini of course and he also did it with Corelli, of course also the Combo of Warren and Tucker in the 1950's where America's contribution of greats but all in all this is wonderful.
@@shicoff1398 I don't particularly like Corelli in Forza. Tucker and Warren were terrific. Although Bergonzi was a fine tenor, he doesn't move me vocally or emotionally. JB was too smart to sing Forza.
@@sugarbist right Bjoerling was smart that way, avoided it and also both Chenier, Gioconda and never a Calaf live, but made the recording with Nilsson and Tebaldi late in his career, he died at age 49 in 1960.Bergonzi, beautiful style etc. not the Spinto heft up top that both Tucker and Corelli had, or of course the dramatic trumpet top of dramatic Mario Del Monaco, nobody can convince me that MDM wasn't a true dramatic tenor in his Otello days as I saw him sing it in Milan in house in 1959 and though I was only 19 years old, I do recall it very well. As with Tucker as far as voice size, MDM sounded better in house, but with MDM it wasn't just voice size, it was that his voice sounded less steely in house then on some of his London Label records of complete operas.
@@sugarbist I really like GDS here, even if he was basically a lyric tenor, and I saw him in house with Tebaldi in 1959 singing Tosca and he was still in excellent form, passionate and beautiful both, but by the mid 1960's he was less and less in great voice, I last saw him in 1974 with Callas, in their farewell together, that one at the Shrine in LA, Calif. but for me as far as Forza, I agree with you about Bergonzi and Corelli, in that role Tucker and Warren in the complete role, considering it all, where both my choice as #1, that was in the 1950's when they both owned it at the Met. Tucker then in prime voice and needed to be heard in house, for best advantage (as did MDM) . Corelli of course in Turandot for me, (rather then in Forza) had no equal live. Tenor Jussi Bjoerling . had his fineRCA recording with Nilsson in 1959, but no way would sing it live, he knew his limitations, and as Clint Eastwood said in his film " A man has to know his limitations" Bjoerling usually knew his very well and lasted well till he died at age 49, Sept. 9th. 1960.
@@shicoff1398 My father told me that Martinelli was less steely in the house as well.I also believe that MDM was a dramatic tenor, but poster Bodiliotto claims that MDM was a '' Lirico Pieno'', translated as a ''full lyric''. I truly don't know what that means. But, it really doesn't make a difference. All the great tenors were very effective in many performances regardless of the the few criticisms they receive here on You Tube.
At a point often considered somewhat past theis prime, yet both men sing magnificently here!
Unsurpassed !!!!!!
Indeed a wonderful performance. The difference between these two singers in terms of their careers is that Bastianini did not sing outside of his vocal type where as di Stefano overreached his natural talents.
The temptation is too much strong, the one and only Callas. It was not fit but who can resist...even to risk his life for many people, it would had worth it.
I wish Pippo stayed in his lane. His early lyric singing is pure heaven.
Questo è teatro!
Per tutti quelli che dicono che di stefano non aveva tecnica...
Chi dice questo non ha orecchie per sentire!
♥️💐♥️💐
Che piacere ascoltarli. Insieme a Callas, Marylin Horne, Cesare Siepi fanno il quintetto dei piiù grandi.
I think, this was never sung better. There is the full situation.! Live on stage, impossible to do it so at studio...
When I was younger I used to lament Di Stefano's decline singing heavy roles... I have since realised that me doing this was to miss the point entirely. It was Di Stefano's voice, and his alone to use as he saw fit, in this case to thrilling effect! On the contrary now I think the thought he is drawing down his capital adds extra frission, urgency, to the scene.
Di Stefano was an interpretive genius.
I'm not going to argue with a person who mentions Bastianini as "one of the best", while declaring his favorite lyric tenor as "a singer of the century". And this person makes this kind of comment on La forza del Destino recording!!!
ZWEI ABSOLUTE SUPERSTARS BEI DER ARBEIT
Too bad there is no video to go along with this exceptional audio recording. Fortunately there is the one from Naples, but without Di Stefano 😕
Must be with Corelli who suits the challenge better...
@@Keatsy08 The one with Mario Del Monaco is the best for me. Bastianini's dark tone fits those heroic roles so perfectly.
For those who think Di Stefano wasn’t able to sing spinto tenor roles.
Semplicemente Divini
Yes, one of the best baritones. Or you want it to be another way? Like God, or what? Sorry if I upset you. There were too many great ones, we can hear them since Battistini. What's so horrible and offending to you? Ettore had a special voice, a splendid technique, a handsome look. Speaking on Pippo one can't help admitting that this man was a giant, one of the greatest interpreters and artists. If you don't agree, it's your choice. If you don't hear it, it's a pity. But don't be ridiculous.
Yes I agree with you totally
Bastianini had the dark rich sound I listen for in a baritone, almost bass like and he did begin his career as a bass. Bastianini was the ultimate baritone, a voice silenced far too soon.
Bravissimo ! Sono d'accordo Ingrid. These are two icons of Italian opera. Sadly,a wonderful lyric tenor who lost his golden voice too early,and an incomparable dramatic baritono who lost his life much,much too early.Thank goodness that we have their sublime voices preserved on many recordings.Mille grazie lido for sharing this with us all.
GREAT SINGERS! Di Stefano is a geenius, but I preffer this duet with Corelli.
Anch'io credo fermamente che Del Monaco è un altra cosa vicino a Bastianini però è pur vero che noi tutti non siamo un cazzo difronte a questi miracoli vocali eterni e divini.evviva Di Stefano...Bastianini non ne parliamo
Di Stefano qua' si mette sotto i piedi Del Monaco!
@@fabriziogarzi9892 non dire ERESIE
Corelli, Tucker, Bergonzi (forse colui che in quegli anni" cantava nel modo più appropriato e calzante tutto il repertorio verdiano.) Labo ' grande Alvaro. Il primo Cecchele. Tutti eccellenti. Poi come sempre de gustibus..........
I think Di Stefano was more genious!
Divi
Non discuto mai le preferenze, specie se espresse con intelligenza e possibilismo. Cordialità
8:25
Di stefano had a voice of the gods but blew it away singing roles like this which eventually ruined his beautiful lyric voice.should have left this duet to the del monacos, corellis, tuckers etc
The more reasonable reasons for his decline were his heavy smoking, excessive partying and allergy to carpets
@@abcdefgh-db1to am sure they didnt help,but his choice of roles did not help him.he sang caravardossi in dublin in the 60s and a pal of mine was a chorus singer and later a critic for the irish times and while he said di stefano was a lovely man he also said his voice was dried out,as you say lifestyle choices did not help.same thing happened to georges thill,and he readily admitted it was the drinking and party lifestyle that shortened his careet
Di Stefano is not good on the low notes at all, this is not his repertoire.
Il povero di Stefano non può affrontare il vocione di Bastianini senza nasaleggiare ed impiccarsi negli acuti.Un confronto impari.
Tu sei un POVERO corista inconpete...
INCONPETENTE!!!
Ti meriti Kaufmann e tutti i cani latranti di oggi.
Uno è un tenore, l'altro un baritono non si possono paragonare
@@edoardovoceunicaduchi957 la vocetta ( seppur preziosa)di Di Stefano non può competere con il volume e la risonanza della voce di
Bastianini . Tutto qui .