Critiquing Hopeful's +28 Frost Mage M+ Gameplay

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024

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  • @Manather
    @Manather  Год назад +12

    Very entertaining fire mage to watch (one of the most mechanically skilled players) - www.youtube.com/@Hopefulqt www.twitch.tv/hopefulx

  • @finalformtv5132
    @finalformtv5132 Год назад +3

    Love these kind of videos. It gives extra insight into things that most people wouldn't normally see but will also help them improve too. Pure win win

  • @bastordd
    @bastordd Год назад +1

    Much to learn you still have… my padawan. This is just the beginning!

  • @sebastianbraun8527
    @sebastianbraun8527 Год назад

    Hi, I am new to frostmage and your channel. In this video I learned by far more about frostmage than in any other guide. Please do more of those! Also going more in-depth about boss specific mage things, like blinking/altertiming the stomp on first boss is so good to know.
    Good job and keep it up pls (:

  • @The_GlassCannon
    @The_GlassCannon Год назад

    This is great, very informative. Hope to see more in the future. Also great because I found a new fire mage to sub to as well! Bonus points if you now have to do a fire M+ for him to critique 🤣

  • @ashree_o7
    @ashree_o7 Год назад

    i learned so much from this, thank you :)

  • @jhshin1123
    @jhshin1123 Год назад

    Thanks for the upload!
    I do have a quick question concerning sims. It seems like for both single target and AoE recent profiles have taken a lot of versatility such that all the crafted items are vers/mastery, and we use a versatility phial. Is there a reason the stat priorities changed? Since when 10.1.5 released the sim profile still had as few versatility as possible.
    Also looking at builds of high ranked mages (including you!) this recraft hasn't taken place yet (im assuming its because they usually both play fire and frost). Do you plan on recrafting to increase your versatility stats as well? thanks!

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Год назад +1

      Increasing my vers aside from going vers ominous essence (which I dont have) hasnt simmed better for me yet, so I havent changed anything aside from some gems. Looking at t30 profiles if thats what you are referring to shouldnt be a guide, they use the same sim tools to reach where they are at, except the gear they can get and equip is unlimited and yours is not.

  • @dtrgilmore
    @dtrgilmore Год назад

    Credit to Hopeful for letting the critique roll so the rest of us can learn

  • @Jooblee
    @Jooblee Год назад +2

    Do you happen to know what kind of gear he was running? Looking at the on screen stats, seems like they had a lot of versatility. Not sure if that's a hold over from fire secondaries or not.
    With corrupting rage / howling rune / haste OCE I'm at 31% Crit, 40% Haste, 37% Mastery and 2% vers, wondering if I should be ignoring sims to get some more DR? My group is just starting to push 22s now.

    • @kr1n_486
      @kr1n_486 Год назад

      He's mostly a fire main so his gear isn't optimized for frost hence the high Haste/Vers gear

  • @tarisco614
    @tarisco614 11 месяцев назад

    Really dumb question, but what's the fire bolt looking part that comes out when he sends Ice Lance? I'm not 70 yet, but I can't see where it would be in a talent.

    • @Manather
      @Manather  11 месяцев назад

      Thats an effect he is being given by the augmentation evoker in the party

  • @F1ipsydez
    @F1ipsydez Год назад

    @Manather do you just use a Ice Nova mouseover macro to conveniently freeze your target you want also frozen?

  • @user-jc3fp4uq7x
    @user-jc3fp4uq7x Год назад

    Ice master watching fire master...

  • @adriankovacs4133
    @adriankovacs4133 Год назад +1

    Thing is, i believe that Hopeful probably knows how to play frost correctly, but during an actual +28 run even the best players sometimes just can’t concentrate on their rotation while also paying attention to every mechanic that can just oneshot you on that key level. He is also playing with Shimmer which makes it even harder for him to use Glacial Spikes on cd.

    • @danielg2294
      @danielg2294 11 месяцев назад

      I don’t know. During the mythic WF races it’s very rare too see anyone perform with a performance error of under 0.5% Same in the m+ races. Several people get accused and sometimes even banned for having a PERFECT rotation without a single error in a full 20min run.

  • @matheusbiten3716
    @matheusbiten3716 Год назад

    Even for BH and FH would you run Ray of Frost on Tyrannical weeks?

  • @Alejandro-Urena
    @Alejandro-Urena Год назад

    So why i get is, if we're using ray of frost, we mostly ignore it on adds packs and only use it on bosses or an add with a lot of hp, or was he doing it wrong?

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Год назад

      you only use it in st/2t, so he mostly used it correctly

  • @jamesbizzle3227
    @jamesbizzle3227 Год назад +1

    Is pet freeze off gcd and won't interrupt any casts?

  • @raizzkeks7441
    @raizzkeks7441 Год назад

    Is there a reason i dont understand why he uses elemental potion of ultimate power so late in the first pull and at the beginning?

    • @pancakegainz
      @pancakegainz Год назад

      Obviously it was a mistake. He probably thought it was macro'd into his IV.

  • @trivious11
    @trivious11 Год назад

    Anyone that knows how i can get hopefuls ui profile?

  • @frostfire5208
    @frostfire5208 Год назад

    at around 5 mins in - you said to shifting power during IV - what is the reasoning for that?

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Год назад +1

      we have a lot of high impact cooldowns that we want to use more

    • @frostfire5208
      @frostfire5208 Год назад

      @@Manather Thanks - a few other questions - if its Tyrannical and we're running ray of frost - do we also want cryopathy? Also do you use it in your trash rotation or just skip it unless there is a priority trash add or 1 left alive?
      Also when generating icicles for GS it is better to use an empowered ice lance if you have it rather than a frostbolt right?

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Год назад +1

      @@frostfire5208 just ray, not cryopathy, and you only use it on 1 and 2t as the rotation says normally. Yes you would rather empowered ice lance than frostbolt for icicles.

  • @danielschmeck2322
    @danielschmeck2322 Год назад

    Can u tell me, how this Damage come true? :D Is there a special trinket or sth? I end around 380k after a first Pull from FH or this with 445ilvl.

    • @adbirdk
      @adbirdk Год назад +1

      This is from Priest that gives PI and Augmentation Evoker

  • @KC-gr9qj
    @KC-gr9qj Год назад

    In aoe opener do we use any shattering spell for the second comet storm after CoC?

    • @bluey1695
      @bluey1695 Год назад

      The cone of cold also applies an AoE winter's chill to everything hit, so there is no need, it will be shattered from the cone of cold.

    • @KC-gr9qj
      @KC-gr9qj Год назад

      @@bluey1695 i mean the second comet storm after reset by CoC

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Год назад +1

      @@KC-gr9qj so the one not in the opener? we do not aim to intentionally shatter it atm

  • @flawless7612
    @flawless7612 Год назад +1

    i need to know how the Frozen orb is getting back to you in 3 sec in first pull ?

    • @raizzkeks7441
      @raizzkeks7441 Год назад +1

      Cone of cold resets the cooldown look in your talent the last one in the right tree

    • @flawless7612
      @flawless7612 Год назад +1

      @@raizzkeks7441 Look carefully he used 3 freezing orb in 9 sec without even using power shifting 1:13

    • @larki1cj
      @larki1cj Год назад +3

      Blizzard, due to the size of the pull. There are lots of small adds. Just watch the cooldown of FOrb tick down, aside from CoC and Shifting Power.

  • @joshuawoodard6998
    @joshuawoodard6998 Год назад

    seems like he would want to use Iced Phial instead as well.

    • @Quiet_9
      @Quiet_9 Год назад

      You want to use vers in any key that is difficult for you personally for the added survivability + damage. You want to use elemental chaos or corrupting rage on easy keysfor damage, but using corrupting rage in a hard key is risking the entire key. There is no scenario for using the glacial fury as frost in a key.

    • @joshuawoodard6998
      @joshuawoodard6998 Год назад

      @@Quiet_9 I'm pretty sure @Manather said to use Corrupting rage in all content as frost. Maybe I'm wrong. It definitely sims better for frost.

    • @Quiet_9
      @Quiet_9 Год назад

      @@joshuawoodard6998 it's the best for damage in low risk content, but this is a 28 and a single death could brick the key. Corrupting rage is going to create a big risk of death that's not appropriate here.

    • @joshuawoodard6998
      @joshuawoodard6998 Год назад +1

      @@Quiet_9 it's okay. We can agree to disagree. I saw Asuna doing 27/28 as frost using corrupting rage. I guess there's choice for your preference which is pretty cool I guess.

  • @ieatpoza
    @ieatpoza Год назад

    how come he is using tepid vers instead of corrupting rage when he has only 26% crit?

    • @Jathwe
      @Jathwe Год назад +1

      its a 28 tyran, very scary, wants the vers to live. and not the damage taken from crit phial

  • @QPoily
    @QPoily Год назад

    Unrelated but seeing so many ppl talk about the Versatility stat, I absolutely hate that stat. Genuinely such a boring shit stat that doesn't affect nor interact with the rotation of ANY spec. Excluding tanks, of course. Wish they got rid of it so that stat power budgeting returned to just being haste/crit/mastery. Haste and crit in particular are just so more more interesting when it comes to affecting rotations and I'd much rather have more of those than versa.

  • @Toodlesmdoodles
    @Toodlesmdoodles Год назад

    Would you ever consider critiquing a noob's gameplay if they sent it to you?

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Год назад

      Its looking like I’ll do another one of these for a player pushing +24s which should have a broader range of issues. But going too far down the totem pole its less about illustrating issues and more of just reteaching the spec in my experience.

    • @Toodlesmdoodles
      @Toodlesmdoodles Год назад

      @@Manather That makes sense, thank you for the reply!

  • @nayie4
    @nayie4 9 месяцев назад

    why no critique of his transmog before you critique his gameplay ? very bad priorities.

  • @Liwet.
    @Liwet. Год назад

    How is he even tracking his icicles?

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Год назад

      the number on his glacial spike

  • @1NightInParisOfficial
    @1NightInParisOfficial Год назад

    mans doing top dps without even having nova binded. Ye mage is broken