pekin is the best gamer youtuber ever, very logically talks through everything and I love it so much. everyone else is just trying to be wacko entertaining, but I ALWAYS learn shit from a pekin video
@@RadiantRegal the first and only time i watched a zwag stream he had just finished a game and was like "wow that was a really good one, definitely gonna upload it", then i see "you have been promoted to bronze 3" and i couldn't stop laughing. cant believe people actually watch him
@@ethanhardwick445it’s sad cause I used to love watching zwag, up until I learned all his games are silver and below or against his viewers which are all at that rank
fun fact! abilities that arent levelled cannot go on cooldown, so u can save ur level up point at lvl 6 for when u need to escape by ulting even immediately after taking dmg :) kinda difficult against DoTs tho so its not a universal get out of jail free card..
@@RumbleRishIf I understand correctly, the goal is to prevent the 3s cooldown applied to the ult upon player damage, so when you get hit and need to flee, you level up and immediately cast R.
NGL, as far as Yone players go (non-pros)....I feel like he was pretty clean in that Game 2, especially early game. Usually when Pekin goes up against Yones even I can see a lot of mechanical mistakes and misjudgments but I feel like he actually did a pretty good job and seemed to have solid control over the champ. It was nice to see Pekin face someone like that.
Yone ult is something like a teleport I think. If you ever play Gwen and there's an enemy Yone. Sometimes Yone's ult will ignore Gwen, even if Yone is inside of the mist created by Gwen's W. It's something like Yone presses R, and when he starts traveling, he disappears until the ult finishes casting. So if there is no champ when casting his ultimate, you could consider the ability as a ranged attack where Yone teleports at the end of it.
Bruh the second game was such a scam. Sett barely not getting the clutch 1v2 outplay, everybody on the enemy team surviving on 1hp, Yone being Yone, that time your q hit a Zyra plant, Mundo becoming bs out of nowhere. With every play in this match it felt like someone at riot was sitting there, watching and actively trying to rob you of a win. And maybe Sett was in on it too with how he almost threw the backdoor at the end, even though he knew exactly what the plan was.
The reason Taliyah isn't played that much is that she's extremely item dependent. If you fall behind in gold, she lacks the effective range to stay relevant. As long as you are consistent with her and only pick her into teams where you know you won't struggle, she's a fine enough pick - but she's a high risk choice to one-trick or even main. She could do with a bit of love ...reduced AP ratios in exchange for better base damage... so that she's not quite such a risk to lock in relative to other mages. Alternatively, she could use something like a 1s knock-back on her ultimate when it makes contact with enemy champions. That would give her that one extra tool to remain useful even when behind. And honestly, I feel like she could be given both of those things and still be a bit lackluster. Maybe shorten her ultimate's base cooldown a bit too? It's a huge part of her identity and she can't make plays very well without it. I can agree that Taliyah is fantastic enough when fed. But almost every mage champion is, unless RIOT really messes them up in any given patch. She's not better than other picks. She can't make more plays, her burst isn't superior. She is, thanks to her passive and her ultimate, more mobile. I do like mobility for sure, being support cat in most of my games these days. (Note: I was a Cho'Gath top main and jungler until Season 9, who also played Kog'Maw ADC quite a lot.) Taliyah is probably my favorite mage to have on my team because of her ultimate, and I always try to make sure my Taliyah players do not fall behind so that I have their mobility to help me rotate and make plays. I often feel like she's just a worse version of Ryze. But at least her plays are different enough that it doesn't matter. Nothing quite like being able to fully wall off a lane or multiple jungle paths - even a full power Anivia can't manage that one.
Im not sure what you're talking about with her Q-2 . Ive been playing Taliyah since she came out and she's always had worked earth giving access to her secondary Q...
Hello Sir Pekin, I enjoy your videos alot - could you redo a Aurelion one? Due to the Item changes its quite different - early feels even more weaker - except lvl 1 with Comet / Boneplating.
It does but in my experience, Yone doesn't usually care. Early on he does more than enough damage to you, blocks a portion of the retaliation and then goes back while still winning the trade. Better off trying to land W into E and trying to back off. It does however cripple Yasuo since just laying it across the minions stops him in his tracks.
At first I thought she might be a solid counter to Yone, since she works so well against Yasuo, but in reality if you put E before Yone uses his Q3 he gonna fully dash anyway, land his ability before he get stunned and because he landed Q, you are knocked up the same time he is stunned so there is not much time to make safe distance. Yasuo's dash and dmg/cc are 2 separate abilities, that's why it's different.
Pekin, ILU brother, love your uploads. These Lux ult comparisons are silly though xD There's a reason Taliyah Q is not doing as much as Lux ult does - abilities do not do aggregated damage. When an ability like Taliyah Q hits multiple times, that means it's deducted by MR on each individual hit. So if Taliyah rocks hit 5 times, MR is taking a cut of it five times. Whereas a Lux ult, does one single instance of damage, and is deducted once. I see you do this a lot with multi-hit abilities >.> OTOH, comparing stuff like Veigar W, Shyvana E, and other big single hit impacts is fair game. I just worry about people getting the wrong impression about how the game mechanics work. A lot of people post on your videos saying how much they learn (I personally learn a ton watching them) so there's a risk where the large amounts of good information conflate with inaccurate information.
With that said you were doing shitloads of damage once you had max rank Q and 2 items, so mileage may vary as to if I'm just being a pedant here. I don't think I am, but y'know, credit where it's due ^_^
brother your math aint mathin mr is the same regardless of whether its multi hit or single hit it's percentage based. You couldve just said that it doesn't do as much because it's a basic ability...
**squints** Am I actually misremembering the MR interaction here? I was under the impression that there's a flat value reduction applied to each hit, but I'm realizing now that I think about it more that I might be carrying assumptions from theorycrafting for other games I play and how they handle mitigation. If so, I will edit my comment. Assuming I am wrong and verify that, thank you both for the correction.
@@MakashiOwns In League each point of armor/MR is one percent additional effective HP, so for x MR the damage will scaled down by a factor of 100/(100+x). eg. At 100 MR you double your effective HP (100% increase), so you take 100/(100+100) = 1/2 as much damage. At 50 MR it's 100/(100+50) = 2/3 of the damage. So it's purely a percentage reduction, no flat components like there are in the Souls games for example. Conclusion: Number of hits doesn't matter, only total damage. Taliyah Q does in fact deal more damage than Lux ult if everything hits.
People aren't playing her because her because her design is boring. There are characters that deal more dmg and are more enjoyable. Imo she needs a minor rework.
WHY ISNT YONE R CONSIDERED A DASH. Thats SO FUCKING STUPID. ITS BASICALLY LIKE LEBLANC W, where the champion rushes forwards. I get not stunning him in it but NOT PROCCING THE E? Sorry Yone is just bullshit thus im mad. Imo it shouldnt even let him dash forwards if no champion is in the target zone.
0:38 lux ult mentioned
noted
so what?
@@LaharlTheKingits like a meme kinda. Pekin most of the time uses Lux ult as a scaler when comparing damage.
@lami.77 i think he's even compared cd of assassin champs ult to lux ult.
also "i used to main taliyah back in the old days before big rock"
Where's the pekin face thumbnail.........
The people want answers!
I don't want it to be a rule, tbh. I love getting surprised.
wdym? that is the real Pekin face, just with a little make-up
I think he makes the thumbnails himself. And with daily uploads that would be a lot of extra work! 😮
probably people would accuse him of black face or something
Lux ult mentioned the videos gonna be a banger
pekin is the best gamer youtuber ever, very logically talks through everything and I love it so much. everyone else is just trying to be wacko entertaining, but I ALWAYS learn shit from a pekin video
I like how you clarified the elo thing in a proper way, other youtubers will just hide that they are smurfing just to get content.
Zwag 😏
and by other utubers we mean scumbag zwag and dr. akali who isnt in this buss anymore lol
@@ethanhardwick445Zwag doesn't even try to hide it anymore to be honest. At this point is common knowledge that he plays in low elo for stomp games
@@RadiantRegal the first and only time i watched a zwag stream he had just finished a game and was like "wow that was a really good one, definitely gonna upload it", then i see "you have been promoted to bronze 3" and i couldn't stop laughing. cant believe people actually watch him
@@ethanhardwick445it’s sad cause I used to love watching zwag, up until I learned all his games are silver and below or against his viewers which are all at that rank
fun fact! abilities that arent levelled cannot go on cooldown, so u can save ur level up point at lvl 6 for when u need to escape by ulting even immediately after taking dmg :)
kinda difficult against DoTs tho so its not a universal get out of jail free card..
I don’t understand, how do you ult without leveling up the ultimate first?
@@RumbleRishIf I understand correctly, the goal is to prevent the 3s cooldown applied to the ult upon player damage, so when you get hit and need to flee, you level up and immediately cast R.
Another fun fact! Even though Taliyah Q is 5 seperate hits of damage, it is coded as a DOT! This helps keep the healing from doran's shield down!
I can't believe you would wait until a new split just to play in lower elo and smurf smh can't believe this Pekin
I know! I think every challenger is doing that right now. ;)
💀
i don't even play League anymore but I still watch every vídeo, really enjoy your vibe and humor
Also lux ult mentioned at the start of the video , wow
yay taliyah is my fav champ! (i haven't played lol since 2018 so i get to vicariously play taliyah again whenever you play her
Taliyah video? That's so rare!! GREAT!
Another one in pekins array of "i used to main this" champ.
dude's been playing for like 14 years i'd be surprised if he didnt have like 40 mains
Day 54 of asking Pekin to upload a video of him reading a bedtime story.
NGL, as far as Yone players go (non-pros)....I feel like he was pretty clean in that Game 2, especially early game. Usually when Pekin goes up against Yones even I can see a lot of mechanical mistakes and misjudgments but I feel like he actually did a pretty good job and seemed to have solid control over the champ. It was nice to see Pekin face someone like that.
Taliyah is one of the few positive things about this game. Thank you for throwing another rock, Mr. Pekin.
An earlier upload this time? Great I finally don't have to wait until morning to watch!
Thanks for the vid! I felt that Taliyah was weak but seeing you play it I realize it's a skill issue lol :")
Early one today ! Thanks Pekin 🍿
Not even 40 seconds in and we get a lux ult reference too!
Thanks for my lullaby ♥︎
That Graggy straight up hackin xD
Finally I can go to bed before 4am. Thank you Pekin!
FINALLY YALL KNOW HOW LONG IVE BEEN WAITING FOR A TALIYAH GAME???
Yone ult is something like a teleport I think.
If you ever play Gwen and there's an enemy Yone. Sometimes Yone's ult will ignore Gwen, even if Yone is inside of the mist created by Gwen's W.
It's something like Yone presses R, and when he starts traveling, he disappears until the ult finishes casting.
So if there is no champ when casting his ultimate, you could consider the ability as a ranged attack where Yone teleports at the end of it.
this champ rocks
Bruh the second game was such a scam. Sett barely not getting the clutch 1v2 outplay, everybody on the enemy team surviving on 1hp, Yone being Yone, that time your q hit a Zyra plant, Mundo becoming bs out of nowhere. With every play in this match it felt like someone at riot was sitting there, watching and actively trying to rob you of a win. And maybe Sett was in on it too with how he almost threw the backdoor at the end, even though he knew exactly what the plan was.
Pekin missing cannon is canon
The reason Taliyah isn't played that much is that she's extremely item dependent. If you fall behind in gold, she lacks the effective range to stay relevant. As long as you are consistent with her and only pick her into teams where you know you won't struggle, she's a fine enough pick - but she's a high risk choice to one-trick or even main. She could do with a bit of love ...reduced AP ratios in exchange for better base damage... so that she's not quite such a risk to lock in relative to other mages. Alternatively, she could use something like a 1s knock-back on her ultimate when it makes contact with enemy champions. That would give her that one extra tool to remain useful even when behind. And honestly, I feel like she could be given both of those things and still be a bit lackluster. Maybe shorten her ultimate's base cooldown a bit too? It's a huge part of her identity and she can't make plays very well without it.
I can agree that Taliyah is fantastic enough when fed. But almost every mage champion is, unless RIOT really messes them up in any given patch. She's not better than other picks. She can't make more plays, her burst isn't superior. She is, thanks to her passive and her ultimate, more mobile. I do like mobility for sure, being support cat in most of my games these days. (Note: I was a Cho'Gath top main and jungler until Season 9, who also played Kog'Maw ADC quite a lot.) Taliyah is probably my favorite mage to have on my team because of her ultimate, and I always try to make sure my Taliyah players do not fall behind so that I have their mobility to help me rotate and make plays.
I often feel like she's just a worse version of Ryze. But at least her plays are different enough that it doesn't matter. Nothing quite like being able to fully wall off a lane or multiple jungle paths - even a full power Anivia can't manage that one.
YESSS Taliyah gaming!! I'd love to see more!
no way that W at 3:51 actually hits, wtf
typical bs of elevation of terrain
Was just running her yesterday mid. She is nuts, does so much damage for no reason.
Laser mentioned!!! My day is made.
yeah man I want more pekin taliyah. specially since you owe us one thumbnail
LOL the Sett’s tp play at the very end of the second game. Can’t make it up 🤣
Would love to see Pekin do videos which he plays as a champ in the 1st game, then against the same champ in the 2nd
YESSSSSSSSSS A TALIYAH VIDEOOOOOOO YESSSSSSSSSS
That chogath skin makes him at 0 stacks look so fucking small hahaha
great work!
Have your thoughts on Mid Smolder changed compared to when you first initially played Smolder?
I like to watch you before sleep. So 480p is ok... XD
it's done processing so it should be 1080, it gives me the 1080 option as well
@@PekinWoofstill 480 for me) I'm on different server ig. Wp on game 1 btw
Another banger thumbnail edit
Oh look is that diamond4 streamer again! ;P
Im not sure what you're talking about with her Q-2 . Ive been playing Taliyah since she came out and she's always had worked earth giving access to her secondary Q...
YES MY FAVORITE CHAMP
Day 29 of asking pekin for random aram games in case recording session is going bad so our favourite raccoon does not need to stress too much
and people still say mundo isnt op
Early pekin upload , lucky me
Also I wrote this before and I will write it again.
I need a dose from pekinwwoof2 , I am suffering without it
Yeah, hidden OPs rn are Anivia, Asol, Taliyah
4:29 tuah mentioned
You should AB test your thumbnails with/without your face. The initial comments should be entertaining.
Only reel Woof Member saw him change the thumbnail mid stream
i LOVE a taliyah mid vid
Streets needed some Taliyah gameplay
That mundo was so ridiculous
144:clouded leopard
Why is the max quality 480p? Love ur content btw!
It shows 1080p for me, maybe clear web browser cache?
I will do that Sr! @@PekinWoof
Hello Sir Pekin, I enjoy your videos alot - could you redo a Aurelion one? Due to the Item changes its quite different - early feels even more weaker - except lvl 1 with Comet / Boneplating.
Did you know Pekin used to main Taliyah? (4:55)
helped alot.
Does Taliyah E explosion proc on Yone's E2 (when he goes back?) If so, you think that's a good counter to the wind shitter??
It does but in my experience, Yone doesn't usually care. Early on he does more than enough damage to you, blocks a portion of the retaliation and then goes back while still winning the trade. Better off trying to land W into E and trying to back off.
It does however cripple Yasuo since just laying it across the minions stops him in his tracks.
At first I thought she might be a solid counter to Yone, since she works so well against Yasuo, but in reality if you put E before Yone uses his Q3 he gonna fully dash anyway, land his ability before he get stunned and because he landed Q, you are knocked up the same time he is stunned so there is not much time to make safe distance. Yasuo's dash and dmg/cc are 2 separate abilities, that's why it's different.
That Taliyah thumbail is missing a beard....
So early! What a treat to get pekinwoof before I do all the hard drugs that make me happy.
All hail the algorithm!
Im here because of the stream
hi pekin i watched this whiel in one of my art classes. seraphine when?
To answer the question: no.
as a taliyah mid main i feel personally attacked :D
1:40 how did he not get stunned or take damage for dashing in taliyah E T_T
More taliyah games please.
27:09 respond to your dms smh
I'll sleep early tonight
The thumbnail.... I already miss ur beautiful face 😢
If masters and challengers go to diamond at start of split where do diamond players go 🤔
Low emerald
WTF IS THAT DAMAGE??!
early pekin lets gooooo
idk how anyone could complain about you playing in diamond anyway when there’s RUclipsrs constantly playing in bronze
Please play malzahar
why do you play on so many Accounts?
I wonder what a Yasuo player would do if they played Pekin.
Why is Kha everywhere
i love you so much pekinwoof pls marry me ill do anything
this early? nice
wow smurfing in diamond again mr. pekin (joke)
and people say mundo aint broken kek
Pekliyah were 😒😠
U mean midbeast mid not Taliyah mid
uh actually mid beans is abusing taliyah mid thats how he wins
Day 21 of asking Pekin to play aram, or until he says to stop.
nice to see yone lose
Pekin, ILU brother, love your uploads. These Lux ult comparisons are silly though xD There's a reason Taliyah Q is not doing as much as Lux ult does - abilities do not do aggregated damage. When an ability like Taliyah Q hits multiple times, that means it's deducted by MR on each individual hit. So if Taliyah rocks hit 5 times, MR is taking a cut of it five times. Whereas a Lux ult, does one single instance of damage, and is deducted once. I see you do this a lot with multi-hit abilities >.>
OTOH, comparing stuff like Veigar W, Shyvana E, and other big single hit impacts is fair game. I just worry about people getting the wrong impression about how the game mechanics work. A lot of people post on your videos saying how much they learn (I personally learn a ton watching them) so there's a risk where the large amounts of good information conflate with inaccurate information.
With that said you were doing shitloads of damage once you had max rank Q and 2 items, so mileage may vary as to if I'm just being a pedant here. I don't think I am, but y'know, credit where it's due ^_^
Not sure that multi-hit makes a difference? MR is a percentage reduction, not a flat reduction per hit, so number of strikes wouldn't matter.
brother your math aint mathin mr is the same regardless of whether its multi hit or single hit it's percentage based. You couldve just said that it doesn't do as much because it's a basic ability...
**squints** Am I actually misremembering the MR interaction here? I was under the impression that there's a flat value reduction applied to each hit, but I'm realizing now that I think about it more that I might be carrying assumptions from theorycrafting for other games I play and how they handle mitigation. If so, I will edit my comment. Assuming I am wrong and verify that, thank you both for the correction.
@@MakashiOwns In League each point of armor/MR is one percent additional effective HP, so for x MR the damage will scaled down by a factor of 100/(100+x). eg. At 100 MR you double your effective HP (100% increase), so you take 100/(100+100) = 1/2 as much damage. At 50 MR it's 100/(100+50) = 2/3 of the damage. So it's purely a percentage reduction, no flat components like there are in the Souls games for example.
Conclusion: Number of hits doesn't matter, only total damage. Taliyah Q does in fact deal more damage than Lux ult if everything hits.
Smurfing in diamond 3 ..
People aren't playing her because her because her design is boring. There are characters that deal more dmg and are more enjoyable. Imo she needs a minor rework.
WHY ISNT YONE R CONSIDERED A DASH.
Thats SO FUCKING STUPID.
ITS BASICALLY LIKE LEBLANC W, where the champion rushes forwards.
I get not stunning him in it but NOT PROCCING THE E?
Sorry Yone is just bullshit thus im mad.
Imo it shouldnt even let him dash forwards if no champion is in the target zone.
Kid, it's a game it's okay
cuz shes boring to play