As you pointed out - it's very subjective with the helmets. I bought this one just before Christmas and didn't had many chances to try it out but now I do have few hours of observations with it. Here are my 2 cents: Pros: 1. Of course price for the money is very good given the extras that you get with it. 2. In size M it comes around 1500 gr. which is more than ok for me. 3. The integrated sun visor mechanism is really easy to operate once you get used to it. 4. It has the newest safety standard and 3 shell sizes. 5. You can use the tinted visor all day and night as it is not so tinted in reality. (this is one of the negatives as well) 6. It comes with a very handy but not good quality helmet bag. This is priceless for me as I have some 15 min walk to the garage. Cons: 1. I found the fit and finish on the cheap side...it feels somehow plastic and not such a good quality. 2. Strangely for me but at the moment that I removed the "chin curtain" the helmet felt better for my fit. 3. The air infusion system hardly makes a difference in the fit of the helmet for me. With my pretty "round like a ball" head I would say that it feels spot on in the front but I do feel some air gap just above the top of the head...again very individual thing. 4. it is quite warm helmet for my liking as the visor was fogging in temperatures around 10 degrees C and slow speed (no mater of the open/closed front vent). 5. The included tint visor and the internal sunscreen altogether aren't so much "tinted". Both of them together are less tinted compared with my old lid tinted visor. 6. The construction of the visor is such that you have the feeling that it's crack-open when it's fully closed. There is strangely shaped edge of the visor causes this optic illusion for me. Finally I will give it a try for 2024 and see how it will be in a full day of riding and much warmer weather.
Can you point me what chin curtain? I feel a bit of pressure in the cheeks area and it's quite annoying, though the helmet has less than 20 hours of use.
@@connectorxp the chin curtain is just the lower part preventing air to get to your chin and face…the textile lower part that is removable. However, even if you remove it there will be no difference to your chicks as the chin curtain doesn’t make a contact with them. You may try not to inflate the chicks pads but no idea if it will work for you.
I have the black and grey colour scheme. Bought it for this season so not been out on the bike with it yet. I've got it in XL and it's fits amazingly for me, and I tried them all.
I like Scorpion. Currently using their ADX2 adventure-modular and while I’m quite happy with the helmet as such I wish they’d have put in another notch in the “city open”-position. As it stands when it’s properly cold and raining my glasses always fog up and when I open the visor to the first position the rain gets in and soaks my face. Other than that (and the 1950g) I’m very happy with Scorpion as a whole. Always seem to find them at great prices in my parts as well.
Hi, great review and spot on. I have this helmet and it fits a little bit tight as it's new and when I went up a size it was to big. So I'm hoping it beds in. Like you I have no vibrations from the peak but I did manage to lose one of the screws when I was messing with it. These are very hard to get from anywhere, I had to order a pack of 3 from Germany for a Scorpion VX helmet a Motorcross helmet and they fit thankfully.
As the owner of the AT950, , which is a modular,they seemed to address all the dislikes I have with mine. Namely, changing shields is a bit of a chore, it constantly fogs in almost any circumstance, and the sun shield makes reading a GPS a real challenge. Sadly, mine is barely a year old, so I guess I’ll have to wait awhile to switch up. Great no nonsense review as always Tony. Safe travels.
Nice review mate. There are so few on YT or online in general it’s great to see you leading the way. I’ve got the more expensive XT9000 Carbon US version which is largely the same except for the internal tinted visor and exposed carbon. For some odd reason the EU market doesn’t get the exposed carbon but gets a useful tinted visor. I also have a longer oval head and had a hot spot up front that I had to work with by adding some additional strategically placed foam, got that sorted. Build quality is quite good, the finish is very nice, and it’s pretty darn light weight for the money. At first pass it seems like a good compromise in the US between low end ADV helmets and the big jump to Arai, Klim Krios Pro, and Shoei’s offering. I like that it came with a pin lock and a tinted shield but I generally don’t use either in favor sunglasses and popping open the shield slightly. One other dig, the pricing in the US is $530 USD which is a drag considering the EU gets a nearly identical helmet for considerably less. My principal gripe is, the ventilation is straight up abysmal. The chin vent is semi useful for defogging if you can keep it open but beyond that there is little air coming through for normal ventilation, and God help you if you put the camera mount on there. The forehead vents are nothing more than decoration, I tried making little air scoops to direct air in the ports, nothing. I went so far as to use leather punches to carefully remove the foam to encourage the air to move directly from the port to the grid in the top of the liner, nothing again. In order to get adequate ventilation one has to open the visor. The air movement is so bad, one 25* F morning in October while on the COBDR I forgot to close all of the vents but I never noticed. Had I done that with my Shoei, my head would have froze pretty quickly. My other minor gripe is the visor, while it’s spectacularly clear in the main area the lower edge makes things difficult to see clearly. It was very annoying at the beginning because the step is right where my gauge cluster and phone are in my view, but I go over it and now just move my head slightly. The air fit is a neat gimmick and maybe helps some folks, I have a slightly more round shaped face so pumping up the bladders does nothing but squish my cheeks I really want to like it, especially since it is a sharp looking lid, but the poor ventilation is a non-starter in the hot lower Midwest. I suspect it will get sold off once I decide on Arai XD or Klim Krios Pro.
I really wanted this helmet, but here in the US, we got the XT 9000, which didn't get that sweet red, white and blue color scheme, so I went for the plain white. I removed the chin curtain after seeing a video about how it can cause a build-up of carbon dioxide from exhaling as you breathe while stopped. Even with the chin curtain removed, I don't find the helmet to be particularly noisy, certainly not noisy enough to need ear plugs while riding, but my CRF300L Rally is a relatively quiet bike, too. Scorpion did well with the creation of the XT/ADF 9000. It's a very well thought out helmet.
Interesting you show the large as a 58-59. My Schubert E1 and previous C3 are 58-59 large which fit me spot on. I think I’m a bit between L and XL. Yet everywhere this lid for sale shows as L 59-60. I need to try one and see. Thanks for the review. Looks good for the money 👍
I did query this with the distributor as the website and sales/marketing aids list L as 59-60, which is why I showed the label. Haven't got to the bottom of that yet.
Great review and video mate! I've been thinking of upgrading my Shoei adventure helmet and the Scorpion seems to be a hot topic lately for good feedback and quality. Torn between the ADX-2 or this one? Would be great if you could review them both back-to-back?
I have the US version, the XT9000, in the exposed carbon and it looks great and is overall pretty good at its price point. The two largest issues for me are probably personal preference. 1. I’m a Small in all helmets, the small here fits great as well. But I feel like the shell is physically larger than my others and I don’t like the look of it on my head 😋. My Arai and Shoei helmets don’t have this problem for me. 2. The slight curved edge at the bottom of the visor/shield annoys me because it distorts my view if your looking down quickly at your gauges. I feel like I have to purposely look down with my whole head instead of just my eyes. Small thing but enough to annoy me. All that said, I still wear it sometimes but it’s not my go-to. Great review!
I wanted to buy this helmet since march last year but it didn't came in stock. In october I went to the closest shop (230 km from where I live) which physically had it in stock, to try on the sizes, to know what size to order. I didn't want to buy it right then, cause the Black/Silver Trail version wasn't in stock, and I wanted to see what the Black Friday deal would be. So Black Friday came, and I got it for 309 euros. Now I'm eagerly waiting for Spring to come, so I can try it out 😅
Great review, as usual. I’m looking to upgrade my ADV helmet. Noise is my biggest gripe. In your experience, which has proven the quietest out of those you’ve tried?
Some are better than others, and of course your experience could and probably will be different to mine. This is pretty good, the Arai Tour X5 works well for me as does the Shoei Hornet. The Nexx X.Weds tend to be good too.
Very good review - i also have a long oval head shape, and was about to buy this helmet, but a good thing i did not ! Do you find that the new Arai is a better fit for long oval head shapes ? Is there in fact any ADV helmet that fits ? Thanks.
Good one. As you say, try before you buy so important. And fit is more important than looks. But at today's prices I think that's good value. Ride safe
Nice review Tony, it's a perfectly decent helmet....but I've been spoilt by my old Tour X ! Cheers, Steve...ps, are you going to the Excel bike show...? Cheers Steve
Ive just bought this helmet but not tried it on the road yet. Im usually a Large and found this quite abit tighter than my other helmets. I didn't realise it was 58-59cm. Im sure ive seen it advertised as 59-60! Something for others to be wary of! I'm hoping it will 'bed in'.
Just bought one of these and there’s a BIG problem with fitting a PINLOCK. Neither the one supplied with the helmet PINLOCK 70 , which isn’t listed anywhere as a replacement. Or the listed one a PINLOCK 120 fits . Even the Sportsbikshop guys gave up saying they’ve never had that much trouble trying to get a pinlock to fit properly
I got the helmet, but visor could be designed better. at least 20mm of the bottom part of the visor is curved and very distorted view along bottom line, good field of view, but that part is useless and distorted - and also when fully opened up, it blocks the view because of that, cannot be fully up so it is always visible Are there any aftermarket visors that do not distort the view at the bottom part of it?
Apart the price difference, which helmet would you choose between scorpion adf 9000 and adx2 camino, like quality, functionality, and long distance runs? Thank you
Curious, what type helmet is most comfortable for your head shape? I’m thinking we have the same shape and that lid is not available here in Canada 🇨🇦 so I coud not try it beforehand to purchasing. Currently I’ve had good success with SHOEI RF-1100 and RF-1200 and Also SHOEI Hornet Adventure for my head shape.
@@mancavemoto yea I saw the new xwed3, but now you can find the old xwed2 carbon for 249€ if you’re lucky; and for that price is fantastic (for me is also the best looking adv helmet, better also than the new model)
@@mancavemoto np, it's really "'just" a subsidiary of Kido Sports. I guess they thought that their parent name wouldn't be suited to international markets :D
@@mancavemoto it's a European helmet? DOT certified is the standard its needs at a minimum for the USA. (To my knowledge) cause I do not see it for sale for the USA.
Ah right, gotchya. Yep this is ECE 22.06 certified. Its very similar to the XT9000, in fact the shell looks the same except its composite rather than Carbon and theres a drop down visor which the xt9000 doesnt have
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As you pointed out - it's very subjective with the helmets. I bought this one just before Christmas and didn't had many chances to try it out but now I do have few hours of observations with it. Here are my 2 cents:
Pros:
1. Of course price for the money is very good given the extras that you get with it.
2. In size M it comes around 1500 gr. which is more than ok for me.
3. The integrated sun visor mechanism is really easy to operate once you get used to it.
4. It has the newest safety standard and 3 shell sizes.
5. You can use the tinted visor all day and night as it is not so tinted in reality. (this is one of the negatives as well)
6. It comes with a very handy but not good quality helmet bag. This is priceless for me as I have some 15 min walk to the garage.
Cons:
1. I found the fit and finish on the cheap side...it feels somehow plastic and not such a good quality.
2. Strangely for me but at the moment that I removed the "chin curtain" the helmet felt better for my fit.
3. The air infusion system hardly makes a difference in the fit of the helmet for me. With my pretty "round like a ball" head I would say that it feels spot on in the front but I do feel some air gap just above the top of the head...again very individual thing.
4. it is quite warm helmet for my liking as the visor was fogging in temperatures around 10 degrees C and slow speed (no mater of the open/closed front vent).
5. The included tint visor and the internal sunscreen altogether aren't so much "tinted". Both of them together are less tinted compared with my old lid tinted visor.
6. The construction of the visor is such that you have the feeling that it's crack-open when it's fully closed. There is strangely shaped edge of the visor causes this optic illusion for me.
Finally I will give it a try for 2024 and see how it will be in a full day of riding and much warmer weather.
Can you point me what chin curtain? I feel a bit of pressure in the cheeks area and it's quite annoying, though the helmet has less than 20 hours of use.
@@connectorxp the chin curtain is just the lower part preventing air to get to your chin and face…the textile lower part that is removable. However, even if you remove it there will be no difference to your chicks as the chin curtain doesn’t make a contact with them. You may try not to inflate the chicks pads but no idea if it will work for you.
I have the black and grey colour scheme. Bought it for this season so not been out on the bike with it yet. I've got it in XL and it's fits amazingly for me, and I tried them all.
Enjoying my modular ADX2 very much! Good and pretty quiet helmet. Good price, pretty good integrated intercom which I even managed to pair to a Cardo.
I like Scorpion. Currently using their ADX2 adventure-modular and while I’m quite happy with the helmet as such I wish they’d have put in another notch in the “city open”-position. As it stands when it’s properly cold and raining my glasses always fog up and when I open the visor to the first position the rain gets in and soaks my face. Other than that (and the 1950g) I’m very happy with Scorpion as a whole. Always seem to find them at great prices in my parts as well.
Hi, great review and spot on. I have this helmet and it fits a little bit tight as it's new and when I went up a size it was to big. So I'm hoping it beds in. Like you I have no vibrations from the peak but I did manage to lose one of the screws when I was messing with it. These are very hard to get from anywhere, I had to order a pack of 3 from Germany for a Scorpion VX helmet a Motorcross helmet and they fit thankfully.
As the owner of the AT950, , which is a modular,they seemed to address all the dislikes I have with mine. Namely, changing shields is a bit of a chore, it constantly fogs in almost any circumstance, and the sun shield makes reading a GPS a real challenge.
Sadly, mine is barely a year old, so I guess I’ll have to wait awhile to switch up. Great no nonsense review as always Tony. Safe travels.
Thanks
Nice review mate. There are so few on YT or online in general it’s great to see you leading the way.
I’ve got the more expensive XT9000 Carbon US version which is largely the same except for the internal tinted visor and exposed carbon. For some odd reason the EU market doesn’t get the exposed carbon but gets a useful tinted visor. I also have a longer oval head and had a hot spot up front that I had to work with by adding some additional strategically placed foam, got that sorted. Build quality is quite good, the finish is very nice, and it’s pretty darn light weight for the money. At first pass it seems like a good compromise in the US between low end ADV helmets and the big jump to Arai, Klim Krios Pro, and Shoei’s offering. I like that it came with a pin lock and a tinted shield but I generally don’t use either in favor sunglasses and popping open the shield slightly. One other dig, the pricing in the US is $530 USD which is a drag considering the EU gets a nearly identical helmet for considerably less.
My principal gripe is, the ventilation is straight up abysmal. The chin vent is semi useful for defogging if you can keep it open but beyond that there is little air coming through for normal ventilation, and God help you if you put the camera mount on there. The forehead vents are nothing more than decoration, I tried making little air scoops to direct air in the ports, nothing. I went so far as to use leather punches to carefully remove the foam to encourage the air to move directly from the port to the grid in the top of the liner, nothing again. In order to get adequate ventilation one has to open the visor. The air movement is so bad, one 25* F morning in October while on the COBDR I forgot to close all of the vents but I never noticed. Had I done that with my Shoei, my head would have froze pretty quickly. My other minor gripe is the visor, while it’s spectacularly clear in the main area the lower edge makes things difficult to see clearly. It was very annoying at the beginning because the step is right where my gauge cluster and phone are in my view, but I go over it and now just move my head slightly. The air fit is a neat gimmick and maybe helps some folks, I have a slightly more round shaped face so pumping up the bladders does nothing but squish my cheeks
I really want to like it, especially since it is a sharp looking lid, but the poor ventilation is a non-starter in the hot lower Midwest. I suspect it will get sold off once I decide on Arai XD or Klim Krios Pro.
I really wanted this helmet, but here in the US, we got the XT 9000, which didn't get that sweet red, white and blue color scheme, so I went for the plain white. I removed the chin curtain after seeing a video about how it can cause a build-up of carbon dioxide from exhaling as you breathe while stopped. Even with the chin curtain removed, I don't find the helmet to be particularly noisy, certainly not noisy enough to need ear plugs while riding, but my CRF300L Rally is a relatively quiet bike, too. Scorpion did well with the creation of the XT/ADF 9000. It's a very well thought out helmet.
Scorpions rock me like a hurricane.
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Not too many music lovers here, obviously. 😉
🙂@@MopedWanderlust
Love that chippy at 5:54!
I've never eaten from there, but i'll have to give it a try now!
Interesting you show the large as a 58-59. My Schubert E1 and previous C3 are 58-59 large which fit me spot on. I think I’m a bit between L and XL. Yet everywhere this lid for sale shows as L 59-60.
I need to try one and see.
Thanks for the review. Looks good for the money 👍
I did query this with the distributor as the website and sales/marketing aids list L as 59-60, which is why I showed the label. Haven't got to the bottom of that yet.
I really like the look of this helmet and definitely not a bad price 👌another cracking review ☝️🙏
Thanks! 👍
nice looking lid, cheers V!
Great review thanks for posting 👍👍👍
No problem
Great review and video mate! I've been thinking of upgrading my Shoei adventure helmet and the Scorpion seems to be a hot topic lately for good feedback and quality. Torn between the ADX-2 or this one? Would be great if you could review them both back-to-back?
I have reviewed both of them on the channel. If you don't want the flip, the ADF9000 is in my opinion a better quality helmet.
Looks well enough. I am still to find a helmet I like more than my Roof Boxer V8. Nick
I have the US version, the XT9000, in the exposed carbon and it looks great and is overall pretty good at its price point.
The two largest issues for me are probably personal preference.
1. I’m a Small in all helmets, the small here fits great as well. But I feel like the shell is physically larger than my others and I don’t like the look of it on my head 😋. My Arai and Shoei helmets don’t have this problem for me.
2. The slight curved edge at the bottom of the visor/shield annoys me because it distorts my view if your looking down quickly at your gauges. I feel like I have to purposely look down with my whole head instead of just my eyes. Small thing but enough to annoy me.
All that said, I still wear it sometimes but it’s not my go-to.
Great review!
I wanted to buy this helmet since march last year but it didn't came in stock. In october I went to the closest shop (230 km from where I live) which physically had it in stock, to try on the sizes, to know what size to order. I didn't want to buy it right then, cause the Black/Silver Trail version wasn't in stock, and I wanted to see what the Black Friday deal would be. So Black Friday came, and I got it for 309 euros. Now I'm eagerly waiting for Spring to come, so I can try it out 😅
Great review, as usual. I’m looking to upgrade my ADV helmet. Noise is my biggest gripe. In your experience, which has proven the quietest out of those you’ve tried?
Some are better than others, and of course your experience could and probably will be different to mine. This is pretty good, the Arai Tour X5 works well for me as does the Shoei Hornet. The Nexx X.Weds tend to be good too.
Very good review - i also have a long oval head shape, and was about to buy this helmet, but a good thing i did not !
Do you find that the new Arai is a better fit for long oval head shapes ? Is there in fact any ADV helmet that fits ? Thanks.
The Arai X5 is a much better fit, I also find NEXX, Shoei and Nolan/x-lite work for me
Good one.
As you say, try before you buy so important. And fit is more important than looks.
But at today's prices I think that's good value.
Ride safe
Cheers
Nice review Tony, it's a perfectly decent helmet....but I've been spoilt by my old Tour X ! Cheers, Steve...ps, are you going to the Excel bike show...? Cheers Steve
Yep, hard to beat a faithful loved helmet. Yes I should be, are you going?
@mancavemoto Hoping to...if I see you I will say hi 👋! Cheers Steve
Ive just bought this helmet but not tried it on the road yet. Im usually a Large and found this quite abit tighter than my other helmets. I didn't realise it was 58-59cm. Im sure ive seen it advertised as 59-60! Something for others to be wary of! I'm hoping it will 'bed in'.
Yes thats why I wanted to mention it. Sportsbikeshop list it as 59-60 for Large, but the label in the helmet says different!
I wish this color was available in the US.
Just bought one of these and there’s a BIG problem with fitting a PINLOCK. Neither the one supplied with the helmet PINLOCK 70 , which isn’t listed anywhere as a replacement. Or the listed one a PINLOCK 120 fits . Even the Sportsbikshop guys gave up saying they’ve never had that much trouble trying to get a pinlock to fit properly
I got the helmet, but visor could be designed better. at least 20mm of the bottom part of the visor is curved and very distorted view along bottom line, good field of view, but that part is useless and distorted - and also when fully opened up, it blocks the view because of that, cannot be fully up so it is always visible
Are there any aftermarket visors that do not distort the view at the bottom part of it?
Does the inflatable padding work around the ears? Ie, would it help reduce noise if you pumped it up?
Not as far up as the ears no, but the action of inlating the cheeks has much the same effect
I have the matt black one
Apart the price difference, which helmet would you choose between scorpion adf 9000 and adx2 camino, like quality, functionality, and long distance runs?
Thank you
ADF9000, wins on all but functionality as its not a flip
Curious, what type helmet is most comfortable for your head shape? I’m thinking we have the same shape and that lid is not available here in Canada 🇨🇦 so I coud not try it beforehand to purchasing. Currently I’ve had good success with SHOEI RF-1100 and RF-1200 and Also SHOEI Hornet Adventure for my head shape.
Shoei always seem to work well for me. Some Arai’s (Quantic and X5), Nexx and Nolan/X-Lite are all a very similar shape
Thanks Mate. I just watched your SHOEI Personal Fitting System and figured same. Thanks for the ARAI tips…will check them out here.
Hiya! I know they are diferent type of helmets but I don’t know what to choose, this one or ADX-2. Which one would you recommend?? Thanks a lot
I would pick this one, but it doesn’t have the ‘flexibility’ of the flip front. So it really depends on what’s important to you
@@mancavemoto Thanks for the reply!!
which is much better sir this scorpion adf 9000 air or the nexx x wed3 plain?
Depends on how you define ‘better’ I guess. Similar features, so really it’s the one that’s fits you best that will be better for you
by the way sir my head circumference is 57cm should i go for small size? I'm sorry sir I'm just a newbie
You really need to go and try them on
This one or nexx x-wed2?
Purely on the fit it’d be the x.wed2 for me, but I’ve just got my hands on an x.wed3 and it’s very very good…..
@@mancavemoto yea I saw the new xwed3, but now you can find the old xwed2 carbon for 249€ if you’re lucky; and for that price is fantastic (for me is also the best looking adv helmet, better also than the new model)
Is it better then airoh commander?
Good question? What does better mean to you?
What is the weight of this helmet??
As mentioned in the video, its 1650gm
How much does it weigh in size M?
You'll need to check the website for that info
Im 58cm head, do u think is better L than M?
I would say so, but it depends on your head shape
Just a quick correction, Scorpion is south korean not french ;)
Ah Ok, I was under the impression its a French company, which is owned by a Korean Parent Company (Kido)
@@mancavemoto np, it's really "'just" a subsidiary of Kido Sports. I guess they thought that their parent name wouldn't be suited to international markets :D
Thanks, every day is a school day. My mistake
Very trick 😁
I have tried a few Scorpions, always feel a bit poorly made to me.
No they’re not. Go find helmets under a 100 bucks and you’ll know what cheap is. Cheap doesn’t necessarily mean bad either!
Too bad about the fit, I have a very long oval head and any helmet leaning toward the round won't work for me.
This doesnt sound like it'll be for you, but worth a try as it could have been made worse by the sizing for me
@@mancavemoto ... When it comes to helmets my only hope is to go to shops and do try-ons until I find the right one.
😎👍🇺🇲
Too many graphics/numbers for me..need to tone down the colour scheme a bit to avoid being sniggered at 😉👍
Did you not watch the entire video? He specifically said they offer it in solid colors...
Just buy a different color.
There’s a completely bland black one, are you blind?
And its a euro helmet not DOT cert rip America.
Yep, as mantioned at 00:52, but i'm not sure in understand your comment?
@@mancavemoto it's a European helmet? DOT certified is the standard its needs at a minimum for the USA. (To my knowledge) cause I do not see it for sale for the USA.
Ah right, gotchya. Yep this is ECE 22.06 certified. Its very similar to the XT9000, in fact the shell looks the same except its composite rather than Carbon and theres a drop down visor which the xt9000 doesnt have