Good objective observations - I bought a C100 M2 in March 2019 after using one at work for 4 years. I just liked the reliability of the camera, never overheats, Built-in NDs (HUGE), great form factor, insane battery life and yes, small file size. I agree - I can't believe a HD, 420 8 bit camera is still going for $2700 in 2020 (or even that it's still made). Kind of a testimony to this workhorse camera that Canon is still selling it. Even though it's showing it's age, it still makes great footage for web (where most content ends up!), the controls are well laid out, and the files are easy to edit without investing in new computers. I want to rent the Canon C70 when it comes out to consider a upgrade, but I still don't regret buying this old faithful camera for the kind of content I shoot.
I completely and 100% agree with you! Even to this day it’s still a workhorse of a camera. I’d say if built in ND’s and full size XLR’s are important to you then for sure the c100mkii is what I’d recommend. Now the C70...that’s something that’s interesting.
@@alexshotthese I didn't mention that I also love that the C100 M2 files grade remarkably well for being so small - pretty painless. I had such high hopes for the C200 but COME ON CANON - 4.2.0. 8 bit again- seriously??
@@alexshotthese Yes Canon has dropped the ball considerably in the last couple of years, but they seem to be waking up to their competition slowly but surely. So many choices in imaging these days - technology is advancing so rapidly. Overwhelming - but the most important thing is to SHOOT. Content is everything -doesn't matter what camera you're shooting with.
This cam is awesome since purchased a short time ago. I am shooting interviews with it mostly. Mind sharing how you keep your subject in focus during interviews when not centered?
Thanks for watching and commenting Jeremiah. When I had this camera I would manual focus most of the time. Other times I’d do a trick where I’d center focus them and then in post I’d scale to about 130% and reframe it up that way. Scaling that much in seemed to be the vest without loosing too much detail since it’s a 4K sensor downsampled to 1080p. You can also throw a touch of sharpening on it too if it’s not sharp enough for your liking.
Great video man! A lot of these older cinema cameras are still great if you can get them at the right price. But the quality of the smaller cameras that are coming out now is insane. I had a heavy Sony F3 paired with an external recorder and loved it. But ended up selling it to get a BMPCC 4k and I regret nothing... Not having internal ND and good battery life almost prevented me from selling the F3. But I'm still glad that I sold it. My back will be happier too :)
Totally agree. The C100mkii wasn’t that bad on weight so no complaints there. The smaller cameras are coming out with ridiculous specs though and it comes down to preference. Now that I have the pocket 4K, it does everything I want it to do in a cinema camera.
Alex Schneider, thanks for the video. I am faced with a choice: - what to buy? 1. Canon 90D (canon 17-55 /2.8) 2. Canon C100 mark2? Now I'm shooting with Panasonic HC-X1
Great video! Any chance you are willing to do a exposure & white balance walk through on the c100 mk ii? Would be interesting to see an a few of your most common shooting environment setups.
@@alexshotthese If you are in the LA area, you can borrow mine! There have been a few others try to explain it (always just scratching the surface), just never any real world walk through, maybe even the thought process behind the "why" they are choosing to expose (face, sky/ expose this way in CLOG to correct in post this other way etc...) Always feel like it's a topic that could be dived into further and no one seems to do it.
Alex, I got mine used for $1450 (CAD) and it's in a great condition. I take it as it is quite relevant in my case haha. thanks for the video. I dig the documentary
Yeah, I actually picked one up through work at the start of this year. I posted a video about that recently. It definitely is still relevant today. Also, a nice little hack, just export in 4K and then you have a 4K image with it. I also always throw a touch of sharpening on the footage. Keep it around like 15-20 percent of sharpening.
Beautifully shot and edited video. Your angles, mix of different shots and use of depth of field was excellent. I’m looking at a used c100 vs bmpcc. I’m primarily a musician but love to dabble in videography, and my canon 70D is in need of a serious upgrade! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching and commenting. Yeah I still think the C100mkii is a viable camera even in 2021. I mean I love my bmpcc4k, but the file sizes and editing workflow can be cumbersome. That’s what I miss about the C100mkii.
I own a BMpcc 4K and a Fuji X-T4. Happy with both of them. A few Weeks ago I bought a used C100 Mark II with a Sigma 18 - 35 mm. I really tried to convince myself that the Fuji and the Black magic have a better image quality BECAUSE they shoot in 4k and have a deeper bit rates. After hours of comparing these three Cameras I still could'nt believe HOW and WHY canon looked so much better(smoother, more realistic and cinematic) than others. Is that maybe the magic of Sigma? On BMPCC I use a cheap Lumix 25mm and on the Fuji the XF 18 55.
The C100mkii is still a superb camera and the image quality is still stunning in 2021. What I do with my pocket and sigma combo is throw some black pro mist on it. Either 1/8 or 1/4 strength to take the digits edge off the image. I’ve been really impressed with the results.
love how good the quality looks man! I'm buying mine today for $1500 with only 33hrs of use! can't wait to paired the Ninja V!! this should be a good B cam! currently using a Z Cam S6
This is great. There is a used C100 mkII for sale in our area (asking $1800). Did you upsample the 1080p footage to 4k? We are currently using the EOS R6 and R. They are great and have some nice features. But the actual shooting experience with it, isn't fun. What do you think of the C100 mkII as a run and gun camera set up versus a modern hybrid mirrorless camera?
Yes, I upscaled the 1080p to 4K all the time and looked great. It’s a great run and gun camera. Has everything you’d need too. Also, really has a lovely filmic look too. Personally, I still think it holds a relevant spot in today’s world.
@@alexshotthese I think my only negative to a cinema cam is worry about stabilization. Right now I mount to Ronin S if I need something super stable, and then the R6's IBIS paired with and RF lenses is pretty damn good. Appreciate your video and reply. Thank you.
Yeah no stabilization, but the weight of the camera, lens, and battery does help with shakiness and still helps with producing a more natural handheld look. The c100mkii should be able to be mounted on the Ronin S, but the only bummer is the AF is limited to the center. There is no face tracking or such.
That commercial video looked gorgeous. I’d love to find out a few things regarding your recording methods. Did you shoot it with jut those two Sigma lenses you mentioned? Did you record using the Clog pircutre profile? And did you export the video as 4K or kept it as 1080p? Amazing work. I just bought a C70 but I might keep my C100mii just because it is so damn good with tiny file sizes!
I did shoot with both those lenses! I also filmed in C-log and then export the final video out in 4K. Just edit on a 1080p timeline and then on the export change it to 4K. Works really well in my opinion. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I had a wide variety of questions I asked. It was such a long time ago, but I know I asked general questions on their brand/product. For example, what got you into creating jeans? Why did you choose selvedge denim? Usually asking what, why, and who questions help get things going. Then as you’re asking them question you might think of a new question on the spot.
@@alexshotthese dear alex. I showed this video to my friend. Sony s2-s3 fan. loved the video, and couldn't believe that this video was shot with the c100mkII. nice video.
You can! You’ll get some jitters and shake since there’s no IBIS, but handheld looks great on this camera. The weight and all helps balance out the shakes.
Hey thanks for watching and commenting. Unfortunately, they're no longer in business, but they were a cool business! Also, awesome you're from Wichita. Subbed.
@@alexshotthese think so ,. ohh ,. i want to buy a good film camera was came across this c100 MK II,. so i was wondering,. hey do you know any older film camera around 2,000$ which does 12bit 4.2.2 or 10 4.2.2 or 10 / 8 4.4.2 if yes please do let me know,. your help will be much appreciated !! THANKS
@@dushyantbhatt9345 The C100mkii only does 8bit 4:2:0 internally and 8bit 4:2:2 externally to a recorder. The only camera I know that can do what you're looking for in that price point is the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K or 6K.
If you found a C100mkii with 700hrs and looks to be in great shape then I think that’s a pretty decent deal. I’ve seen Canon cinema cameras have over 1000hrs on it and it still ran like a champ. They’re workhorses. If it were me though I’d still hold out for finding one with fewer hours. There was one the other day on gearfocus.com for like $1700 and had only 130hrs. I was even tempted to buy it, but it sold.
Alex Schneider no for real though😆 the setup the sound etc is just 👍🏻 . By the way, do you ever try Videomic NTG? Currently craving for a much better setup and yours is rlly good, i’m aware you’re using videomic pro plus
I haven’t gotten to try the NTG out, but I really really want to. From what I’ve seen the sound quality is definitely better than the video mic pro plus.
It really depends on what you’re shooting and doing. I love my pocket, but there are times where the file sizes get annoying. Buying more hard drives than I’d like, but then I shoot stuff with the pocket and play around with color grading and it’s a joy. Then when I had the C100mkii I loved the image, ergonomics, full size xlr’s, and built in NDs. You just don’t get actual 4K. It’s a 4K sensor down sampling in camera to 1080p so it’s pretty sharp 1080p. I’m tempted to rent the C100 again and do some tests
Right on! Still think it’s a viable choice in 2021. Honestly, it might even be an A cam for some shoots because it’s so versatile in run n gun situations.
@@alexshotthese yes just want to test it first and if I like it I'm definitely selling my p4k and getting another c100 m2. I will miss the ability to crop in but I'll just use the correct lenses
I’ve been looking at them again too. Beautiful image if you’re not in just super dark, and I mean dark, situations, small file sizes so your hard drives will thank you and your NLE won’t skip either.
I love my pocket 4K, but it does have terrible audio preamps, it’s also kind of annoying to always be rigging it out. Sometimes I just want to grab the camera and go. Internal ND’s are definitely a plus, but also memory space...I’ve noticed even with the 4K I’m still going through hard drives and having to delete things to make room when I don’t really want to do that.
You’re always on top of it bro! The lighting and sound is PHENOMENAL!
Hey thank you! Much appreciated!
Good objective observations - I bought a C100 M2 in March 2019 after using one at work for 4 years. I just liked the reliability of the camera, never overheats, Built-in NDs (HUGE), great form factor, insane battery life and yes, small file size. I agree - I can't believe a HD, 420 8 bit camera is still going for $2700 in 2020 (or even that it's still made). Kind of a testimony to this workhorse camera that Canon is still selling it. Even though it's showing it's age, it still makes great footage for web (where most content ends up!), the controls are well laid out, and the files are easy to edit without investing in new computers. I want to rent the Canon C70 when it comes out to consider a upgrade, but I still don't regret buying this old faithful camera for the kind of content I shoot.
I completely and 100% agree with you! Even to this day it’s still a workhorse of a camera. I’d say if built in ND’s and full size XLR’s are important to you then for sure the c100mkii is what I’d recommend. Now the C70...that’s something that’s interesting.
@@alexshotthese I didn't mention that I also love that the C100 M2 files grade remarkably well for being so small - pretty painless. I had such high hopes for the C200 but COME ON CANON - 4.2.0. 8 bit again- seriously??
I know! I felt like they should have AT LEAST made it 8bit 4:2:2.
@@alexshotthese Yes Canon has dropped the ball considerably in the last couple of years, but they seem to be waking up to their competition slowly but surely. So many choices in imaging these days - technology is advancing so rapidly. Overwhelming - but the most important thing is to SHOOT. Content is everything -doesn't matter what camera you're shooting with.
This cam is awesome since purchased a short time ago. I am shooting interviews with it mostly. Mind sharing how you keep your subject in focus during interviews when not centered?
Thanks for watching and commenting Jeremiah. When I had this camera I would manual focus most of the time. Other times I’d do a trick where I’d center focus them and then in post I’d scale to about 130% and reframe it up that way. Scaling that much in seemed to be the vest without loosing too much detail since it’s a 4K sensor downsampled to 1080p. You can also throw a touch of sharpening on it too if it’s not sharp enough for your liking.
Great video man! A lot of these older cinema cameras are still great if you can get them at the right price. But the quality of the smaller cameras that are coming out now is insane. I had a heavy Sony F3 paired with an external recorder and loved it. But ended up selling it to get a BMPCC 4k and I regret nothing... Not having internal ND and good battery life almost prevented me from selling the F3. But I'm still glad that I sold it. My back will be happier too :)
Totally agree. The C100mkii wasn’t that bad on weight so no complaints there. The smaller cameras are coming out with ridiculous specs though and it comes down to preference. Now that I have the pocket 4K, it does everything I want it to do in a cinema camera.
Alex Schneider, thanks for the video. I am faced with a choice: - what to buy? 1. Canon 90D (canon 17-55 /2.8) 2. Canon C100 mark2? Now I'm shooting with Panasonic HC-X1
I’d go with the Canon C100mk II. Hands down. Built in ND’s, full size XLR’s, and a really nice 4K image downsampled in camera.
@@alexshotthese Thank you. I, too, somehow lean towards the Canon C100 mark2
Great video! Any chance you are willing to do a exposure & white balance walk through on the c100 mk ii? Would be interesting to see an a few of your most common shooting environment setups.
I don’t have the C100mkii anymore, but there are people in town that own a couple that I could probably rent or borrow for this type of video!
@@alexshotthese If you are in the LA area, you can borrow mine! There have been a few others try to explain it (always just scratching the surface), just never any real world walk through, maybe even the thought process behind the "why" they are choosing to expose (face, sky/ expose this way in CLOG to correct in post this other way etc...) Always feel like it's a topic that could be dived into further and no one seems to do it.
@@Troy_Sent_A_Message I don't unfortunately! I live in the midwest, but I'll definitely add it to my video list and try getting ahold of one locally!
Alex, I got mine used for $1450 (CAD) and it's in a great condition. I take it as it is quite relevant in my case haha. thanks for the video. I dig the documentary
Yeah, I actually picked one up through work at the start of this year. I posted a video about that recently. It definitely is still relevant today. Also, a nice little hack, just export in 4K and then you have a 4K image with it. I also always throw a touch of sharpening on the footage. Keep it around like 15-20 percent of sharpening.
Beautifully shot and edited video. Your angles, mix of different shots and use of depth of field was excellent. I’m looking at a used c100 vs bmpcc. I’m primarily a musician but love to dabble in videography, and my canon 70D is in need of a serious upgrade! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching and commenting. Yeah I still think the C100mkii is a viable camera even in 2021. I mean I love my bmpcc4k, but the file sizes and editing workflow can be cumbersome. That’s what I miss about the C100mkii.
I own a BMpcc 4K and a Fuji X-T4. Happy with both of them. A few Weeks ago I bought a used C100 Mark II with a Sigma 18 - 35 mm. I really tried to convince myself that the Fuji and the Black magic have a better image quality BECAUSE they shoot in 4k and have a deeper bit rates. After hours of comparing these three Cameras I still could'nt believe HOW and WHY canon looked so much better(smoother, more realistic and cinematic) than others. Is that maybe the magic of Sigma? On BMPCC I use a cheap Lumix 25mm and on the Fuji the XF 18 55.
The C100mkii is still a superb camera and the image quality is still stunning in 2021. What I do with my pocket and sigma combo is throw some black pro mist on it. Either 1/8 or 1/4 strength to take the digits edge off the image. I’ve been really impressed with the results.
love how good the quality looks man! I'm buying mine today for $1500 with only 33hrs of use! can't wait to paired the Ninja V!! this should be a good B cam! currently using a Z Cam S6
Holy crap that’s definitely a great deal! How are you liking the ZCam S6 by the way?
@@alexshotthese just seeing your message 😅 I love the z cam it’s just something different about cinema cameras 🙌🏽 and the c100 omg loving it so much.
This is great. There is a used C100 mkII for sale in our area (asking $1800). Did you upsample the 1080p footage to 4k? We are currently using the EOS R6 and R. They are great and have some nice features. But the actual shooting experience with it, isn't fun. What do you think of the C100 mkII as a run and gun camera set up versus a modern hybrid mirrorless camera?
Yes, I upscaled the 1080p to 4K all the time and looked great. It’s a great run and gun camera. Has everything you’d need too. Also, really has a lovely filmic look too. Personally, I still think it holds a relevant spot in today’s world.
@@alexshotthese I think my only negative to a cinema cam is worry about stabilization. Right now I mount to Ronin S if I need something super stable, and then the R6's IBIS paired with and RF lenses is pretty damn good. Appreciate your video and reply. Thank you.
Yeah no stabilization, but the weight of the camera, lens, and battery does help with shakiness and still helps with producing a more natural handheld look. The c100mkii should be able to be mounted on the Ronin S, but the only bummer is the AF is limited to the center. There is no face tracking or such.
Fantastic footage.
Thank you! That means a lot. It’s still such a good camera.
That commercial video looked gorgeous. I’d love to find out a few things regarding your recording methods. Did you shoot it with jut those two Sigma lenses you mentioned? Did you record using the Clog pircutre profile? And did you export the video as 4K or kept it as 1080p? Amazing work. I just bought a C70 but I might keep my C100mii just because it is so damn good with tiny file sizes!
I did shoot with both those lenses! I also filmed in C-log and then export the final video out in 4K. Just edit on a 1080p timeline and then on the export change it to 4K. Works really well in my opinion. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@alexshotthese Appreciate the clarification. I'm going to do that from now on, thank you!
The trailer is very nice. Do you have any specific questions you asked while shooting the movie?
I had a wide variety of questions I asked. It was such a long time ago, but I know I asked general questions on their brand/product. For example, what got you into creating jeans? Why did you choose selvedge denim? Usually asking what, why, and who questions help get things going. Then as you’re asking them question you might think of a new question on the spot.
@@alexshotthese dear alex. I showed this video to my friend. Sony s2-s3 fan. loved the video, and couldn't believe that this video was shot with the c100mkII. nice video.
Hi thnx for the video, what about using the camera handheld is that an option at all?
You can! You’ll get some jitters and shake since there’s no IBIS, but handheld looks great on this camera. The weight and all helps balance out the shakes.
Damn I'm from Wichita Kansas I never heard of FNL definitely going to check them out though
Hey thanks for watching and commenting. Unfortunately, they're no longer in business, but they were a cool business! Also, awesome you're from Wichita. Subbed.
Hello,. can you upscale it to 4k ? does it look good ?? i mean the sharpness & all
Yeah I think so. I’d upscale to 4K and add just a bit of sharpening. Never went over 20%.
@@alexshotthese think so ,. ohh ,. i want to buy a good film camera was came across this c100 MK II,. so i was wondering,. hey do you know any older film camera around 2,000$ which does 12bit 4.2.2 or 10 4.2.2 or 10 / 8 4.4.2 if yes please do let me know,. your help will be much appreciated !! THANKS
@@dushyantbhatt9345 The C100mkii only does 8bit 4:2:0 internally and 8bit 4:2:2 externally to a recorder. The only camera I know that can do what you're looking for in that price point is the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K or 6K.
@@alexshotthese Ohk great !! thanks a lot !! ... will check it out !! much appreciate
How do you think L series glass like the 24-70 mk Ii would do on this camera? I found a used one on eBay with 700 hours It for $1,400.
If you found a C100mkii with 700hrs and looks to be in great shape then I think that’s a pretty decent deal. I’ve seen Canon cinema cameras have over 1000hrs on it and it still ran like a champ. They’re workhorses. If it were me though I’d still hold out for finding one with fewer hours. There was one the other day on gearfocus.com for like $1700 and had only 130hrs. I was even tempted to buy it, but it sold.
@@alexshotthese. About that L series glass tho.......
Sorry, totally spaced and meant to say that L series glass is sharp and looks great on these cameras!
How is this channel doesnt have 1M subscribers yet?
Whooooa! Thank you, thank you! That’s high praise. Appreciate it.
Alex Schneider no for real though😆 the setup the sound etc is just 👍🏻 . By the way, do you ever try Videomic NTG? Currently craving for a much better setup and yours is rlly good, i’m aware you’re using videomic pro plus
I haven’t gotten to try the NTG out, but I really really want to. From what I’ve seen the sound quality is definitely better than the video mic pro plus.
What frame rate did you film the Jean commercial?
Hey! Thanks for watching and commenting.
I filmed a combination of both 24fps and 60fps. 24fps for the interviews and then everything else 60fps.
Between this and the blackmagic 4k?
It really depends on what you’re shooting and doing. I love my pocket, but there are times where the file sizes get annoying. Buying more hard drives than I’d like, but then I shoot stuff with the pocket and play around with color grading and it’s a joy.
Then when I had the C100mkii I loved the image, ergonomics, full size xlr’s, and built in NDs. You just don’t get actual 4K. It’s a 4K sensor down sampling in camera to 1080p so it’s pretty sharp 1080p. I’m tempted to rent the C100 again and do some tests
I'm definitely looking for a c100 mark ii as a bcam to my bmpcc 4k
Right on! Still think it’s a viable choice in 2021. Honestly, it might even be an A cam for some shoots because it’s so versatile in run n gun situations.
@@alexshotthese yes just want to test it first and if I like it I'm definitely selling my p4k and getting another c100 m2. I will miss the ability to crop in but I'll just use the correct lenses
I’ve been looking at them again too. Beautiful image if you’re not in just super dark, and I mean dark, situations, small file sizes so your hard drives will thank you and your NLE won’t skip either.
@@alexshotthese yea I was thinking about the p6k but I saw reviews on the Canon cinemas and wanted af, ND and XLR for interviews and filming
I love my pocket 4K, but it does have terrible audio preamps, it’s also kind of annoying to always be rigging it out. Sometimes I just want to grab the camera and go. Internal ND’s are definitely a plus, but also memory space...I’ve noticed even with the 4K I’m still going through hard drives and having to delete things to make room when I don’t really want to do that.
Way to go!!!
Thank you!
Wow. Phenomenal video. New Subscriber.
Thank you so much! Same to you!
That's why you don't buy this camera new. I got mine 3 years ago for 1200 off eBay.
Niiiiice! That’s a hell of a deal!
did you film in 60fps and export out at 24?
Are you referring to the slow motion?
@@alexshotthese just in normal filming?
For any interviews and talking head stuff I shoot at 24fps with the shutter angle set at 180 and for slow motion b-roll it’s all shot at 60fps.