Arbok / Weezing has been my favourite deck to play, for sure. Good enough to compete with top decks, but only if you actually play it well and don't miss things (ie forgetting to Poison a new Active from the opponent before using a Koga) and you're still weak to a fast setup from the top lists. Blaine is probably my second favourite of the decks I have put together, with Venusaur EX solidly third.
@@ItsLuke2357 hahah literally, I got tricked. My first time ever using it I got 9 heads in a row and I was like oh this is gonna be dope. Never have gone past two since
@@hectorrivera5416 oh my god dude I fought someone who flipped heads 6 and still lost I was lowkey holding onto everything after that misty pull since it was like move 12
@@upbeyond671 it’s because the game is new and most folks don’t have a huge card pool so everyone is attracted to the same decks. It another month people will have access to more cards so the meta will evolve
I've been running Charizard EX Moltres EX and I honestly think it is A tier at worst. It has a very solid match up into Mewtwo EX and can beat Pika EX with decent enough draw. I run 2 Old Ambers for Sabrina bait and one Aerodactyl which comes in clutch to stall a few turns when trying to get Zard up. I think the deck is a little underrated.
@TheCognitiveDissident I literally just won a mirror match my using Aerodactyl to shuffle the opponent's Charizard into his deck. I also flipped heads 4 times and won without doing damage lol, but just that first flip was enough to basically kill all that deck's momentum. It works well when they only have 1 Mewtwo EX or Articuno EX or something beefy on the field.
@@RedeemedSteve The new meme is adding 1 growlithe and 2 Arcanine. Charizard continues to be super strong against Mewtwo, but Arcanine is a quicker option that eats Pikachu, or helps out when you're having trouble getting Charizard going. Had some very good results in a couple big tournaments over the weekend.
@@chavaspada Cant you shuffle it in to your Mewtu-EX Deck?Aslong you play against a non Mewtu deck, you still are in a fortunate position (meta) and when you play against a Mewtu deck, you could get an advantage.
@@Leon玲央 you probably can but it's really not ideal, you would need to add all the energy manually since it's not a psychic card I think it can't get energy from gardevoir
Personally hoping the mini set adds the Elite 4 as Supporters. Lorelei would probably buff Lapras, Bruno Machamp, Agatha Gengar, and finally Lance Dragonite.
@@Katlgraczyk he would be stronger, but he still needs that gimmick of having protection, and even then as soon as you bring in a pokemon on that hits the bench the deck is thrown out the window, it still take at least 4 turns to set up if you have the full line. You then still have to get lucky with hoping the attack hits everything you need. He’s strong, very strong, but he has a lot of counter play that can’t really be countered back. I’m a dragonite main btw, so I might just be glazing a bit. lol.
Nice tier list but in my opinion Charirzard ex deck is A. im running it incomplete (without 1 moltres ex) and im winning more than using a complete Venusaur/Exeguttor ex deck.
You also have to factor in how much fire is out there (Charizard, blaine, and now arcanine ex) that grass decks cant survive. But when Venusaur/Exeggutor actually has great matchup against Pikachu and Water decks, and it can pressure Mewtwo decks as well.
Only thing I run now. Only time it's bad for me is if I'm stuck not evolving my abra early or if the game gives me 6 darkness energys in a row so my Alakazam can't attack. The other 80% of the time the deck is so fun
@UhDewSea yes indeed , I have found great fun in defensive decks that can sleep , paralyze and poison , frosmoth + Dragonite it's another evil deck to run
Only fun deck to run in the game tbh, you can do so many good comebacks. It also depends on how dumb your opponent is, if they are smart they won't start over committing to putting energy to their ace
Nice to see a tier list acknowledging how good Weezing Arbok is. It's really well positioned to take out Mew decks and Arbok deals with Pikachu really well.
Favorite deck right now is Rapidash/Nintails. Fast and hits hard and either wins early or lose on the spot. Enjoying it right now for it gets through games rather quick and might be my choice for a rank deck if rank is ever to come.
@@prestigeicathius4660 dude I've been running it for 2 days, definitely my favorite right now. Getting Ninetails round 2 or even just Rapidash Baline round 2 can really set you up for the win.
I really like starmie with 2 farfetch'd and 1 articuno. Farfetch'd puts consistent early damage, especially if you go 2nd, and can let you get starmie or articuno set up. And you can also pivot between starmie and farfetchd super easily. You can attack with farfetch'd, tank a hit on 2 energy mewtwo, pivot to starmie and get 90 off to preserve farfetch'd, and then pivot back to farfetch'd to get another attack off and save yourself 1 point. Thats 170 damage without much risk. It can be a little inconsistent in getting ko's having mons pivot out with 10-20 hp left is very common. Thats where articuno comes in. I've been running it a lot to really good success
Love my 2 line Arcanine ex deck, with 2 Moltres and a Zard line. When you include 2 X speed & 2 Gio's, there's a lot of maneuvering that can be done to get the right pokemon set up! Favorite/ most consistent deck for me atm! Plus Arcanine is my favorite Pokemon!
I'd argue that Pika/Raichu should also be S, and is arguably better than Pika/Zap, on the account of the Raichu variant having a more favorable matchup vs. Mewtwo and a more balanced machup spread overall. One thing to note is that Raichu variants still play Zapdos ex; they just have 2x of the Raichu line, 1-2x Surge, and an optional 7th basic lighting mon in the form of Pincurchin or baby Zapdos. You build Pika and Zap first like normal while keeping a Raichu in the back line, then switch into it for a big swing if 100 power isn't enough for a 1-shot, with Surge guaranteeing that Raichu is topped off for 1-2 swings.
@@draco4450I use magneton to fix that and they act as bench for pikachu ex too. The decks can have low retreat costs that allow you to play around too so it’s not always a last resort.
I use dragonite with dodrio and a farfetch'd, the early damage dealers with one energy are so good at softening up the opponent's bench for a draco meteor finish, and the offense is a good defense, my opponents often spend energy switching definitely giving dragonite time to power up.
I tried this, but I kept having problems because of all the Basic cards reducing my chances of getting a Dratini. I ended up taking them out and putting in 2 non-EX Articunos and 2 Misty's. It doesn't solve the Dratini problem but at least this way I can either get lucky and power up Articuno (with Misty) for quick wins, power up Dragonite for late wins, or if I get unlucky I can use 1 Dragonite to stall while building the other Dragonite or a Articuno. That is, if I can actually get the Energy Gods on my side so I get the energy I need xD
Hello! Loving the tier list so far, although I would argue that Dragonite Weezing is a solid deck. I’ve been running it for about a week now and it’s pretty strong once Dragonite is set. weezing does a decent amount of pressure especially when set with an energy. Also against the Metew S tier it’s a solid counter.
@@renehartmann1116 where is this tournament everyone speaks off I wanna join. Is it the event where we get the crown emblems. If not then where is this tournament section in the game thank you
ive been playing a metal deck recently and love it, using mawile to just keep removing energy, using sabrina to force them into pokemon they wanna power up on their bench, all the while my meltan is powering up for melmetal.
My go to deck has been articuno greninja. Terrible into pikachu most of the time (unless misty pulls through) but its great at stopping gardevoir early on
Lilligant+ Venosaur is my main deck, I’ve finished all the battle tasks and event missions with it. Still need to get my hands on the eggxecutor ex cards to make that unbreakable egg deck.
@@JelloTricks I am your biggest nightmare. I got 6 heads 9energy garados. Enemy was flabbergasted. He got the mew tew deck but his gardevoir wasn’t going.
Never lost to misty enjoyers so far. Theyre funny to play against esp when they play two misty in a row and drew 0 on each cards 😂 They just concede automatically 😂
ive rly been enjoying this Gengar/Wheezing control deck: having wheezing stall out the game for me to build up my gengar and hopfully making all enemies low enough for gengar to one shot them when he eventurally comes online, also his ability is rly nice with making enemies unable to use support cards
I have no tournament data to back this up, but the best off-meta deck I've piloted is Victreebell. I play with regular Exeggutor and one Scyther. It doesn't have any big OKOs, but the lines of play feel really smooth and the aggression of exeggutor helps any grass deck.
I play with a victreebel pidgeot sabrina deck that has garnered some decent results. I also have lilligant as a starter in there too to supply energy for grass types
I personally have had a lot of fun with Alakazam/Greninja (with Kangaskhan as a low cost wall), and I might argue it warrants a bump up to B Tier. It's one of the few dual energy decks that actually seems to work since both the Abra line and the Froakie line are very agnostic when it comes to energy requirements. In the meta that is so heavily dominated by EX decks, having a deck that is single-point Pokemon is underrated IMO because you're essentially having a 3 vs 2 in your favor. Alakazam is an excellent revenge killer and Greninja's chip damage with Water Shuriken can score some cheeky bench to bench KOs, or be just enough for Alakazam to KO. Yes, it does depend on a good draw because Alakazam needs time to get set up, but once it's ready, it can be pretty scary (Also, it's better than one would think against Charizard EX, because I've seen a number of Charizard players try to load Charizard up with 5+ energy instead of 4 so that they can use Crimson Storm twice in a row, meaning that Alakazam will more reliably KO Charizard in its revenge killer role).
Lilligant and Vileplume is also a really good deck, but similar with Bulbasaur and Lilligant if you don’t get your Lilligant set up fast then it will be hard for you to power up your Vileplumes
I've had a a great time using 2 Articuno non-ex in my Dragonite deck. With two Misty they come online fairly often, but the 100hp off the rip and 1 retreat cost makes it feel smoother than Weezing.
I run a Starmie EX/Gyarados/Farfetch'd deck and it has been doing tons of work. Getting lucky with Misty flips on Gyarados early on can really hinder Mewtwo and other energy hungry decks while Starmie and Farfetch'd put a timer on the other setup heavy decks. The only issues I really run into are Pikachu EX decks that are drawing well and the occasional poor start against Arbok decks but otherwise it can really run over a big chunk of the meta.
I've been labbing Arbok/Pidgeot because I think it's really fun to play and I want to optomize it, and I've found that Aerodactyl is a great partner for it. The lockdown/switching is a nightmare for opponets to deal with when it sets up, and Aero is really good at putting pressure on opponents when the setup pieces aren't coming together just right.
Bro, thus is insane. Weezing arbok is what im using. I just started 2 days ago and this is what I built making my deck from packs. Cool game tbh. Love that everyone is running this too.
I wouldn't play Alakazam with Gardevoir because it's way too much setup with two stage two evolutions. Hypno needs way too much energy to attack, as you need to build up Alakazam on the bench. 50% chance on Sleep is cool, but it's important to have an early damage output to prepare everything for the Alakazam sweep. The best Alakazam decks in my opinion run either Clefable, Weezing or Kangaskhan. They don't need much energy to attack, are relatively easy to get on the field and are bulky enough to stall a few turns. Weezing needs a slot for Koga of course and dual energy is risky, but the payoff can be great. Clefable doing 40 damage for 1 energy chips a lot of bulky mons into range for Alakazam, my preferred choice right now for sure. Clefable can easily retreat, no need to have a Koga on your hand at the right time. Another small benefit is the fact that Clefable doesn't share a type weakness with Alakazam. Kangaskhan has got the benefit of being a basic card, but its damage output is luck dependent.
I'd love they add a "Pokemon breeder" supporter card (to be able to play directly a stage 2 on a basic). Idk if that would make a new tier 0, it's even very scary with Gardevoir but it would make all the stage 2 feel much more playable.
@@marcocrespo8698 Yeah, I'm kind of showing my age. It was base set. I was like 6 when Pokemon tcg became a thing. Still remember pulling that Charizard out of my first 5 packs. Those were some good times.
A easy, cheap, and effective deck I found was bruxish greninja deck. Only difficulty you will face is not drawing the greninja line up. Sure the damage still caps in 90, and 110 if you smh got 2 greninja set up, but if you are new, and poor, and don’t have some bs water card with 130 hp that whips 90 for 2 energy and smh don’t require energy to retreat, it’s a good alternative.
I definitely think Weezing-Muk does not deserve to be that much lower than Weezing-Arbok, let alone lower than Weezing-Wigglytuff. Especially considering the best way to play Weezing is with both Arbok and Muk. If you look at the tops or first place finishes with the Koga Weezing deck, most of them are playing Muk because it is surprisingly good. Charizard Ex should also 100% be higher and in the A tier. It is definitely the best deck after Mewtwo and Pikachu. Great list overall!
I run a Melmetal and Pidgeot deck with Mawile and I can consistently beat both Mewtwo and Pikachu. Mawile can stall by getting lucky with energy removals and chip damage while setting up and Pidgeot can make them waste even more energy with swaps as well as hit decently hard if needed to finish out a game. It's nice because there's no EX so using Mawile or an extra basic as sacrifices to buy 1 more turn to bring Melmetal online can win the game. Plus having Pidgeotto be a stage 1 that only requires 1 energy makes it an okay pick for going first and helps balance the deck for either going first or second, which I think is a huge part of the strategy of this game. Most decks just want to go second, but having those early stage 1's that can do their attacks on 1 energy, like Exeggutor EX, really mitigates the weakness of going first.
Try Marowak Wiggly! I started experimenting with it and it's way better than it should be. I think what works so well is that you can play it as it lies. You're not hunting for specific cards, you're more like "oh, the RNG Gods gave me Marowak this game so that's what I'm doing" or "oh, this will be a Wiggly game." In a meta where we don't have much power over our remaining cards, a deck that just goes one way or the other feels really good.
lol I’ve been running cruel with frostmoth. It devastates everything besides pikachu and if I come online fast enough with frostmoth I can win that too.
How the game treats my opponents: Here! Every card you need will be given on every turn! It'll be so perfect you won't even have cards in hand! How the game treats me: hey watch me give you your pokemon's stages in reverse
Nice video! I think one of the best deck right now is arcanine ex, charizard ex and moltres ex. Charizard is good against mewtwo and arcanine is good against pikachu which offers flexibility in the deck and i saw this deck doing great in tournament
Honestly the Weezing Arbok has been amazing to run. The only time I feel miserable is when I can't stop a Venu deck for the life of me. Poison + Arbok isn't enough most of the time to stop the Venu from building up. And even when I force the Venu with Sabrina, I can't take it out before it gets the energy it needs to start nuking my poison team. Everyone else though, they all feel manageable, even the Fighting decks. Forcing the opponent to take poison chip damage and Arbok's consistent dmg is insane, even more insane is that I can even force the KO by sacrificing one of my Arboks for the sake of inflicting the "Can't retreat" debuff to make sure the opponent does go down to Weezing's poison and hit since he only takes 1 energy to attack. It specifically deals well against Pika (Arbok can easily ko the bench fodder early with Sabrina or ensure the Pika goes down with raw dmg + lockdown or Poison + lockdown) and Mewtwo (bc weakness and Arbok's lockdown) which is the major reason I liked it so much on this event. The moment I see a Leaf icon on the opponent's Energy generator, I already become mighty tempted to Concede Turn 1 lol I just can't deal with those thicc dmg sponges that outheal my poison and my Arbok dmg.
@@nova1153 100% agree. I love my Arbok and wheezing deck. And if I get board I will run Arbok/ Pigeotto which is really good against grass but it's tough against the Pikachu decks. I love Arbok I just hope we can get a full art soon.
Running into a Venasaur convinced me to run a single Grimer and Muk. Weezing Koga into Muk allows for a burst damage of 130 and you still have a mon with 130 hp and a 70 damage attack. You do lose a little bit of consistency in setting up your game but having a way to deal damage to high health high attack ex pokemon really makes the deck feel a lot safer going against a lot of strong unexpected picks.
I run machamp ex/primeape. It can consistently hit 100 by turn 2 or 120 by turn 3 with zero gimmicks. To me its a solid high A tier. It beats pikachu ex and wheezing/arbok due to their fighting weakness. It can outpace mewtwo despite its psychic weakness. It only loses to charizard ex/moltres ex only if moltres gets lucky. If moltres flips tails then machamp ex/primeape will outpace it. And it beats any non-bird normal types that take up space in decks due to how common fighting weakness is.
Im so sad that I missed the Lapras event and missed out on promo mankey… I really want to make a primeape deck. I hope we will be able to get older promo cards in the future
Regarding non EX decks a strong benefit is needing to faint 3 pokemon. You get a lot more room to play to win when you can stall for a couple turns longer that EX decks don't often get.
My Marowak/Golbat meta killer deck has been popping off pretty consistently. Been beating a lot of other decks fairly easily as well.. Never underestimate a team full of 1 cost retreats
Dragonite + Blastoise EX is so much fun. Run it with 2 Misty’s, for stack up on water energy for Blastoise, while the rest goes to dragonite. Snorlax as the buffer, and also Tentacriel as buffer/taking out 1 pokemon. After that usually either dragonite or Blastoise is good to go
I feel everyone is sleeping on centiskorch. He comes online faster than charizard, being just a stage 1 and needing way less energy to start the sweep; he kills pikachu, starmie and zapdos w no effort, and paired with Giovanni can get surprise kills also on the other 2 legendary birds. Just because is cheaper than charizard that doesn't mean he is necessary worse, i'd say he is at least on par with zard due to his faster setup and i can see arguments for him being even better than the starter.
Damn the gengar slander is crazy. I beat almost any deck with my gengar/gardeviour except for the crazy fast decks like EX starmie! Wouldn’t call this combo a slow deck, I’d say mid range in speed if that makes any sense lol
I just have to wonder: Is Grapploct viable? Being able to repeatedly force the opponent to switch out as a stage 1 seems like a really useful ability for a good amount of these decks.
I got lucky enough to pull the golden Mewtwo Ex almost right away when installing the game. My now almost complete Mewtwo deck is pretty unstoppable. I didn't even think about baby mewtwo as a shield. I will have to pick that one up! I have to say the deck that usually beats me is the quick draw articuno ex. It's really hard to ramp up my damage in time to counter this build.
I think the energy system should be changed. Start the odds at an even split between the energy types you have (50/50, 33/33/33) and then based on what energy you get, the next energy will be altered odds, at a rate of -10% for the energy you already received, with that percentage then split among the other energy evenly. So, the second pull will be 60-40, in favor of the energy you didn't get, then 70-30, 80-20, 90-10, too eventually be a guarantee for the other type you need. By the 6th energy, you will be guaranteed to get the other type and then the odds start swinging back the other way in increments of ten.
That and just being able to choose percentages on how much of each energy you want. Maybe I want 75% of 1 energy and 25% of the other and not a 50/50 split. Or maybe I want 60/20/20. Right now it's impossible to mix more than 2 and mixing 2 is already a huge handicap by itself.
I hear you about Dragonite -- if you use two lines dragonite cards, and two BASIC Articunos, you can play 2 misty cards -- i know it doesn't solve the energy problem, but it creates many more opportunities to get the energy you need
Today I played somebody using an arbok Pidgeot deck. Pidgeot blows a certain pokémon into the active role and then arbok locks them in. It was really cool and I don't see Pidgeot getting talked about at all!
@@jokerthefool_1120C*. It's a bit gimmicky and very prone to Sabrina. Especially since it tries to go for early aggression but can't really do so since its too reliant on small, early chip damage, which can be countered by potion.
Do you think we will ever get a Card for a duel Type pokemon thats a different type? For example, a Psychic Type Slowking. You play a water slowpoke and evolve to a psychic Slowking or a Water Slowbro. Or like a Ground Kleavor and Steel Scizor evolving from a Grass Scyther. Idk if the regular TCG has that sort of thing, but it could make for interesting decks
Personally running x2 Venusaur EX line, x2 Lilligent line, and x1 Exeggutor EX line. 12 total poke cards but it gives you two routes for steam rolling, with Venu as the late game anchor.
My of meda decks I've been having a lot of fun with are executor ex Beedrill deck really aggressive with 1 energy attacks, wheezing Alakazam, primate marowak ex, and adding Pidgeot to the arbok wheezing deck.
i'm glad you put Primeape at A. ive been running Onix/Primeape and the ability to get online quick with promo Mankey and Brocks for Onix has given me multiple long winning streaks. Primeape can KO Pika EX in one shot and it hits anything weak to fighting hard. you can run various other mons to type coverage, like a single Heliolisk or Mienshao, or two Farfetch'd or Kanga for fast neutral damage
Since I still did not hit guardevoir, charizard or Pikachu after drawing 700cards, I still have to play some alternatives. My favourite so far is Blaine aggro or a alakazam with chansey. Especially the second one feels super strong since Alakazam counters almost every EX Pokémon. Knogga seems to be the biggest counter.
I agree with dragonite being lower tier; he is fun to use but takes forever to setup and by the time you get em up your opponent will be setup on their side on top of the many inconsistencies the deck provides.
Dragonite with tentacrule and arcticuno (non ex) and misty is a fun deck, but still in consistent. Ive seen some people use dragonite with eeevee vapreon jolteon combo so your energy never goes to waste.
@@shammersanonymous no need for tentacruel -- Articuno alone is enough (can also run a fossil for Sabrina protection). I've played A LOT of Dragonite and Dragonite + Reg Articuno has had the best results. Dragonite + Weezing has been next best.
2PikaEX - 2Pika+2Raichu - 2Magnamite+2Magneton - 2St Surge -> This breaks every game. Pika EX is a fast way to get quick kills, and if your opponent tries to put something strong, Raichu can attack very fast if you have Magneton creating energy and using St. Surge to transfer it to Raichu. I can't count the times where the opponent just didn't defend their deck because they saw my Raichu with 0-1 energy and thought they would have an extra turn.
You could put starmie and exeggutor cards on s! It would be cool to understand better the meta. I mean, Ithink it would be true and it felt like you were saying it in some ways.
VERY IMPORTANT PSA FOR DRAGONITE DECK USERS. If you pick the option with koffing don’t be afraid to keep dark energy in your deck! Both dragonaire and dragonite can take it and it makes your koffing way more annoying.
What is your favorite deck right now?
@@spragelsPocket 2 ex exeggcutor only. Idk. Kinda funny, got the idea after 18 trainers ex arctos
Arbok / Weezing has been my favourite deck to play, for sure. Good enough to compete with top decks, but only if you actually play it well and don't miss things (ie forgetting to Poison a new Active from the opponent before using a Koga) and you're still weak to a fast setup from the top lists. Blaine is probably my second favourite of the decks I have put together, with Venusaur EX solidly third.
Rapidash Ninetails for sure, it's so fun to play
Swoobat + Jynx
@spragelsPocket Melmetal, for sure
Opponents Articuno Misty: GOD TIER
My Articuno Misty: T Tier, T for tails
@@ItsLuke2357 hahah literally, I got tricked. My first time ever using it I got 9 heads in a row and I was like oh this is gonna be dope. Never have gone past two since
@@hectorrivera5416 oh my god dude I fought someone who flipped heads 6 and still lost I was lowkey holding onto everything after that misty pull since it was like move 12
@@starryradiofm worst actual deck I have ever made was based around Articuno ex . Pure luck.
I have never one a match using Articuno ex
@@vincentebanks3464 oh yeah definitely luck based especially with the pikachu meta around rn
hhhhhaahhhhha😂😂😂😂
Its either mewtwo gets going and wins or pikachu gets going earlier and wins.
Just get 2 Giovanni and exeggcutor.
R1 Attack for 30 with eggs r2 attack for 90 with exeggcutor and W
Sure
Story of tcg pocket right now 😂😂😂
Am I the only one who finds pikachu to not be opressive? 90 damage isnt a lot, even ninetails can do it
@@upbeyond671 it’s because the game is new and most folks don’t have a huge card pool so everyone is attracted to the same decks. It another month people will have access to more cards so the meta will evolve
I've been running Charizard EX Moltres EX and I honestly think it is A tier at worst. It has a very solid match up into Mewtwo EX and can beat Pika EX with decent enough draw. I run 2 Old Ambers for Sabrina bait and one Aerodactyl which comes in clutch to stall a few turns when trying to get Zard up. I think the deck is a little underrated.
@@RedeemedSteve I’ve been running that deck too, and I agree that it’s underrated. I haven’t tried using aerodactyl though, that’s a good idea
@@RedeemedSteve char,molt,arcanine is doing very well in tournaments matches up well against both pika and mewtwo decks
@TheCognitiveDissident I literally just won a mirror match my using Aerodactyl to shuffle the opponent's Charizard into his deck. I also flipped heads 4 times and won without doing damage lol, but just that first flip was enough to basically kill all that deck's momentum. It works well when they only have 1 Mewtwo EX or Articuno EX or something beefy on the field.
@@RedeemedSteve The new meme is adding 1 growlithe and 2 Arcanine. Charizard continues to be super strong against Mewtwo, but Arcanine is a quicker option that eats Pikachu, or helps out when you're having trouble getting Charizard going. Had some very good results in a couple big tournaments over the weekend.
@@RedeemedSteve Dang, sounds pretty rad! Now I guess I just need to pull an Aerodactyl lol
D tier is reserved for Ditto
ooooooo good point
The ditto memorial tier
ditto would be cool if you only needed the amount of energy, not the same type. Needing same type makes it pretty uselesd
@@chavaspada Cant you shuffle it in to your Mewtu-EX Deck?Aslong you play against a non Mewtu deck, you still are in a fortunate position (meta) and when you play against a Mewtu deck, you could get an advantage.
@@Leon玲央 you probably can but it's really not ideal, you would need to add all the energy manually since it's not a psychic card I think it can't get energy from gardevoir
Personally hoping the mini set adds the Elite 4 as Supporters. Lorelei would probably buff Lapras, Bruno Machamp, Agatha Gengar, and finally Lance Dragonite.
@@GaNSiNaTeR ooooh. This
Dragonite doesn't need a buff
@@addy5572 Dragonite needs a consistency buff. Whether adding more energy or making sure you have the correct energy, it needs help
@@davidpearce4353 but thats the gimmick of the card. If it where to get energy more consistently then that would be crazy op I feel
@@Katlgraczyk he would be stronger, but he still needs that gimmick of having protection, and even then as soon as you bring in a pokemon on that hits the bench the deck is thrown out the window, it still take at least 4 turns to set up if you have the full line. You then still have to get lucky with hoping the attack hits everything you need. He’s strong, very strong, but he has a lot of counter play that can’t really be countered back. I’m a dragonite main btw, so I might just be glazing a bit. lol.
Nice tier list but in my opinion Charirzard ex deck is A. im running it incomplete (without 1 moltres ex) and im winning more than using a complete Venusaur/Exeguttor ex deck.
You also have to factor in how much fire is out there (Charizard, blaine, and now arcanine ex) that grass decks cant survive. But when Venusaur/Exeggutor actually has great matchup against Pikachu and Water decks, and it can pressure Mewtwo decks as well.
Charizard/arcanine/moltres is S tier, counters everything
@@taylorjames14But with bad start it's insta surrender.....you can't make a comeback like other decks
It definetly is high A or even low S. Now there's a new deck combination of charizard + Arcanine that can counter mewtwo and pikachu it's really good
Missing only one moltres ex too, can you share your deck maybe?:)
mewtwo+ gardevoir pops up, meanwhile me and my weezing + alakazam deck, i smirk
Only thing I run now. Only time it's bad for me is if I'm stuck not evolving my abra early or if the game gives me 6 darkness energys in a row so my Alakazam can't attack. The other 80% of the time the deck is so fun
@UhDewSea yes indeed , I have found great fun in defensive decks that can sleep , paralyze and poison , frosmoth + Dragonite it's another evil deck to run
Only fun deck to run in the game tbh, you can do so many good comebacks. It also depends on how dumb your opponent is, if they are smart they won't start over committing to putting energy to their ace
What other cards do you run? Just standard 2x sabrina or do you have like a giovanni in there or something?
@chiimchauu 1 Sabrina , no Giovannis , red card , 2 oaks , 2 potions 2 pokeballs, 2 koga
Nice to see a tier list acknowledging how good Weezing Arbok is. It's really well positioned to take out Mew decks and Arbok deals with Pikachu really well.
Favorite deck right now is Rapidash/Nintails. Fast and hits hard and either wins early or lose on the spot. Enjoying it right now for it gets through games rather quick and might be my choice for a rank deck if rank is ever to come.
Rank is not coming
@@prestigeicathius4660 dude I've been running it for 2 days, definitely my favorite right now. Getting Ninetails round 2 or even just Rapidash Baline round 2 can really set you up for the win.
I’d pay attention to the point system. That will probably replace rank/decide tournament invites if they ever happen is my guess.
I really like starmie with 2 farfetch'd and 1 articuno. Farfetch'd puts consistent early damage, especially if you go 2nd, and can let you get starmie or articuno set up.
And you can also pivot between starmie and farfetchd super easily. You can attack with farfetch'd, tank a hit on 2 energy mewtwo, pivot to starmie and get 90 off to preserve farfetch'd, and then pivot back to farfetch'd to get another attack off and save yourself 1 point. Thats 170 damage without much risk.
It can be a little inconsistent in getting ko's having mons pivot out with 10-20 hp left is very common. Thats where articuno comes in.
I've been running it a lot to really good success
Love my 2 line Arcanine ex deck, with 2 Moltres and a Zard line. When you include 2 X speed & 2 Gio's, there's a lot of maneuvering that can be done to get the right pokemon set up! Favorite/ most consistent deck for me atm! Plus Arcanine is my favorite Pokemon!
I'd argue that Pika/Raichu should also be S, and is arguably better than Pika/Zap, on the account of the Raichu variant having a more favorable matchup vs. Mewtwo and a more balanced machup spread overall.
One thing to note is that Raichu variants still play Zapdos ex; they just have 2x of the Raichu line, 1-2x Surge, and an optional 7th basic lighting mon in the form of Pincurchin or baby Zapdos. You build Pika and Zap first like normal while keeping a Raichu in the back line, then switch into it for a big swing if 100 power isn't enough for a 1-shot, with Surge guaranteeing that Raichu is topped off for 1-2 swings.
I was searching for somebody saying that
doesnt raichu discard all attached energy, how can you be topped off for 2 swings?
@@draco4450 yes but you can re-use energy from near-ko pokemon with surge and raichi is here for ohko only or switch place immediatly after
What's a baby zapdos or baby mewtwo?
@@draco4450I use magneton to fix that and they act as bench for pikachu ex too. The decks can have low retreat costs that allow you to play around too so it’s not always a last resort.
I use dragonite with dodrio and a farfetch'd, the early damage dealers with one energy are so good at softening up the opponent's bench for a draco meteor finish, and the offense is a good defense, my opponents often spend energy switching definitely giving dragonite time to power up.
I tried this, but I kept having problems because of all the Basic cards reducing my chances of getting a Dratini. I ended up taking them out and putting in 2 non-EX Articunos and 2 Misty's. It doesn't solve the Dratini problem but at least this way I can either get lucky and power up Articuno (with Misty) for quick wins, power up Dragonite for late wins, or if I get unlucky I can use 1 Dragonite to stall while building the other Dragonite or a Articuno. That is, if I can actually get the Energy Gods on my side so I get the energy I need xD
@@Pyrogecko08 Just play dragonite with meowth guys
Hello! Loving the tier list so far, although I would argue that Dragonite Weezing is a solid deck. I’ve been running it for about a week now and it’s pretty strong once Dragonite is set. weezing does a decent amount of pressure especially when set with an energy. Also against the Metew S tier it’s a solid counter.
Alakazam + Weezing is really solid, definitely the best Alakazam Deck imo. Also scored pretty high in a tournament 👌🏼
Agreed. It's A Tier at worst. I win 7 or 8 times out of 10.
@@renehartmann1116 where is this tournament everyone speaks off I wanna join. Is it the event where we get the crown emblems. If not then where is this tournament section in the game thank you
@@LunaKuartiX There is no in game function right now. But you can check out Ursiiday's Pocket Weekly
With or without dark energy? Because when i dont run it weezing is literally a stool. When i use it i get energy screwed
@@AzoiatheCobra With Dark energy because Alakazam only needs one Psychic energy. This way Weezing often can get an early knockout 👍🏼
I want to see a MukEX, so Weezing can get like, a “real poison deck” going
ive been playing a metal deck recently and love it, using mawile to just keep removing energy, using sabrina to force them into pokemon they wanna power up on their bench, all the while my meltan is powering up for melmetal.
tbh i really really hope the mini set balances out the meta. if we get a decent ex for dark and steel the meta would be healthy as all hell.
came to pocket from marvel snap and HOLY do I have more fun here. thx for the tier list. really helps me decide which packs/decks to go for
I love my dragonite in noex mode. Btw would love to see a noex tier list 😊
My go to deck has been articuno greninja. Terrible into pikachu most of the time (unless misty pulls through) but its great at stopping gardevoir early on
Lilligant+ Venosaur is my main deck, I’ve finished all the battle tasks and event missions with it. Still need to get my hands on the eggxecutor ex cards to make that unbreakable egg deck.
Regardless of whatever deck you play we can agree misty players are bad people.
@@oldguardiron5946 nothing brings me more joy than seeing a misty hit Tails first
@@JelloTricks I am your biggest nightmare. I got 6 heads 9energy garados.
Enemy was flabbergasted.
He got the mew tew deck but his gardevoir wasn’t going.
“People”
Mewtwo gardivoir players are bad people. Atleast misty is luck and chance.
Gard Mewtwo should be illegal lol. 3 energy each round is insane.
Never lost to misty enjoyers so far. Theyre funny to play against esp when they play two misty in a row and drew 0 on each cards 😂 They just concede automatically 😂
I play jolteon and flareon decks. Super underrated.
ive rly been enjoying this Gengar/Wheezing control deck:
having wheezing stall out the game for me to build up my gengar and hopfully making all enemies low enough for gengar to one shot them when he eventurally comes online, also his ability is rly nice with making enemies unable to use support cards
I have no tournament data to back this up, but the best off-meta deck I've piloted is Victreebell. I play with regular Exeggutor and one Scyther.
It doesn't have any big OKOs, but the lines of play feel really smooth and the aggression of exeggutor helps any grass deck.
I play with a victreebel pidgeot sabrina deck that has garnered some decent results. I also have lilligant as a starter in there too to supply energy for grass types
What about the charizard, moltres arcanine deck, it got a 12 win streak in a tournament
I personally have had a lot of fun with Alakazam/Greninja (with Kangaskhan as a low cost wall), and I might argue it warrants a bump up to B Tier. It's one of the few dual energy decks that actually seems to work since both the Abra line and the Froakie line are very agnostic when it comes to energy requirements. In the meta that is so heavily dominated by EX decks, having a deck that is single-point Pokemon is underrated IMO because you're essentially having a 3 vs 2 in your favor. Alakazam is an excellent revenge killer and Greninja's chip damage with Water Shuriken can score some cheeky bench to bench KOs, or be just enough for Alakazam to KO. Yes, it does depend on a good draw because Alakazam needs time to get set up, but once it's ready, it can be pretty scary (Also, it's better than one would think against Charizard EX, because I've seen a number of Charizard players try to load Charizard up with 5+ energy instead of 4 so that they can use Crimson Storm twice in a row, meaning that Alakazam will more reliably KO Charizard in its revenge killer role).
Lilligant and Vileplume is also a really good deck, but similar with Bulbasaur and Lilligant if you don’t get your Lilligant set up fast then it will be hard for you to power up your Vileplumes
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I've had a a great time using 2 Articuno non-ex in my Dragonite deck. With two Misty they come online fairly often, but the 100hp off the rip and 1 retreat cost makes it feel smoother than Weezing.
I run a Starmie EX/Gyarados/Farfetch'd deck and it has been doing tons of work. Getting lucky with Misty flips on Gyarados early on can really hinder Mewtwo and other energy hungry decks while Starmie and Farfetch'd put a timer on the other setup heavy decks. The only issues I really run into are Pikachu EX decks that are drawing well and the occasional poor start against Arbok decks but otherwise it can really run over a big chunk of the meta.
I've been labbing Arbok/Pidgeot because I think it's really fun to play and I want to optomize it, and I've found that Aerodactyl is a great partner for it. The lockdown/switching is a nightmare for opponets to deal with when it sets up, and Aero is really good at putting pressure on opponents when the setup pieces aren't coming together just right.
Bro, thus is insane. Weezing arbok is what im using. I just started 2 days ago and this is what I built making my deck from packs. Cool game tbh. Love that everyone is running this too.
I wouldn't play Alakazam with Gardevoir because it's way too much setup with two stage two evolutions. Hypno needs way too much energy to attack, as you need to build up Alakazam on the bench. 50% chance on Sleep is cool, but it's important to have an early damage output to prepare everything for the Alakazam sweep.
The best Alakazam decks in my opinion run either Clefable, Weezing or Kangaskhan. They don't need much energy to attack, are relatively easy to get on the field and are bulky enough to stall a few turns. Weezing needs a slot for Koga of course and dual energy is risky, but the payoff can be great. Clefable doing 40 damage for 1 energy chips a lot of bulky mons into range for Alakazam, my preferred choice right now for sure. Clefable can easily retreat, no need to have a Koga on your hand at the right time. Another small benefit is the fact that Clefable doesn't share a type weakness with Alakazam. Kangaskhan has got the benefit of being a basic card, but its damage output is luck dependent.
I'd love they add a "Pokemon breeder" supporter card (to be able to play directly a stage 2 on a basic). Idk if that would make a new tier 0, it's even very scary with Gardevoir but it would make all the stage 2 feel much more playable.
@@ulamgexe7442 that should be rare candy like in the regular tcg and I guess it will come soon
@@marcocrespo8698 The original version of rare candy was Pokemon breeder.
@@crazysquriel oh I didn’t play that edition but it sounds about right rather than rare candy
@@marcocrespo8698 Yeah, I'm kind of showing my age. It was base set. I was like 6 when Pokemon tcg became a thing. Still remember pulling that Charizard out of my first 5 packs. Those were some good times.
A easy, cheap, and effective deck I found was bruxish greninja deck.
Only difficulty you will face is not drawing the greninja line up.
Sure the damage still caps in 90, and 110 if you smh got 2 greninja set up, but if you are new, and poor, and don’t have some bs water card with 130 hp that whips 90 for 2 energy and smh don’t require energy to retreat, it’s a good alternative.
I definitely think Weezing-Muk does not deserve to be that much lower than Weezing-Arbok, let alone lower than Weezing-Wigglytuff. Especially considering the best way to play Weezing is with both Arbok and Muk. If you look at the tops or first place finishes with the Koga Weezing deck, most of them are playing Muk because it is surprisingly good.
Charizard Ex should also 100% be higher and in the A tier. It is definitely the best deck after Mewtwo and Pikachu.
Great list overall!
I run a Melmetal and Pidgeot deck with Mawile and I can consistently beat both Mewtwo and Pikachu. Mawile can stall by getting lucky with energy removals and chip damage while setting up and Pidgeot can make them waste even more energy with swaps as well as hit decently hard if needed to finish out a game. It's nice because there's no EX so using Mawile or an extra basic as sacrifices to buy 1 more turn to bring Melmetal online can win the game. Plus having Pidgeotto be a stage 1 that only requires 1 energy makes it an okay pick for going first and helps balance the deck for either going first or second, which I think is a huge part of the strategy of this game. Most decks just want to go second, but having those early stage 1's that can do their attacks on 1 energy, like Exeggutor EX, really mitigates the weakness of going first.
Try Marowak Wiggly! I started experimenting with it and it's way better than it should be.
I think what works so well is that you can play it as it lies. You're not hunting for specific cards, you're more like "oh, the RNG Gods gave me Marowak this game so that's what I'm doing" or "oh, this will be a Wiggly game."
In a meta where we don't have much power over our remaining cards, a deck that just goes one way or the other feels really good.
I've been smashing with Tentacruel + Articuno (non-EX). Surprised not to see the salty squid on this list...
lol I’ve been running cruel with frostmoth. It devastates everything besides pikachu and if I come online fast enough with frostmoth I can win that too.
How the game treats my opponents: Here! Every card you need will be given on every turn! It'll be so perfect you won't even have cards in hand!
How the game treats me: hey watch me give you your pokemon's stages in reverse
Nice video!
I think one of the best deck right now is arcanine ex, charizard ex and moltres ex. Charizard is good against mewtwo and arcanine is good against pikachu which offers flexibility in the deck and i saw this deck doing great in tournament
Hypeeee I’ve been wanting to hear your opinions on this
Honestly the Weezing Arbok has been amazing to run. The only time I feel miserable is when I can't stop a Venu deck for the life of me. Poison + Arbok isn't enough most of the time to stop the Venu from building up. And even when I force the Venu with Sabrina, I can't take it out before it gets the energy it needs to start nuking my poison team. Everyone else though, they all feel manageable, even the Fighting decks. Forcing the opponent to take poison chip damage and Arbok's consistent dmg is insane, even more insane is that I can even force the KO by sacrificing one of my Arboks for the sake of inflicting the "Can't retreat" debuff to make sure the opponent does go down to Weezing's poison and hit since he only takes 1 energy to attack. It specifically deals well against Pika (Arbok can easily ko the bench fodder early with Sabrina or ensure the Pika goes down with raw dmg + lockdown or Poison + lockdown) and Mewtwo (bc weakness and Arbok's lockdown) which is the major reason I liked it so much on this event.
The moment I see a Leaf icon on the opponent's Energy generator, I already become mighty tempted to Concede Turn 1 lol
I just can't deal with those thicc dmg sponges that outheal my poison and my Arbok dmg.
@@nova1153 100% agree. I love my Arbok and wheezing deck. And if I get board I will run Arbok/ Pigeotto which is really good against grass but it's tough against the Pikachu decks. I love Arbok I just hope we can get a full art soon.
Running into a Venasaur convinced me to run a single Grimer and Muk. Weezing Koga into Muk allows for a burst damage of 130 and you still have a mon with 130 hp and a 70 damage attack. You do lose a little bit of consistency in setting up your game but having a way to deal damage to high health high attack ex pokemon really makes the deck feel a lot safer going against a lot of strong unexpected picks.
I run machamp ex/primeape. It can consistently hit 100 by turn 2 or 120 by turn 3 with zero gimmicks. To me its a solid high A tier. It beats pikachu ex and wheezing/arbok due to their fighting weakness. It can outpace mewtwo despite its psychic weakness. It only loses to charizard ex/moltres ex only if moltres gets lucky. If moltres flips tails then machamp ex/primeape will outpace it. And it beats any non-bird normal types that take up space in decks due to how common fighting weakness is.
Machamp/Onyx has been wracking up Ws for me as well. Super slept on
Charizard is 100% A tier. It is the 3rd best deck in the game. Has been one of the better tournament decks so far
Im so sad that I missed the Lapras event and missed out on promo mankey… I really want to make a primeape deck. I hope we will be able to get older promo cards in the future
Hey @speagels, what would be the best way to submit a deck?
Regarding non EX decks a strong benefit is needing to faint 3 pokemon. You get a lot more room to play to win when you can stall for a couple turns longer that EX decks don't often get.
Big Venasaur Beedrill deck, underrated af
Anyone tried Exeggutor with Butterfree?
I did the 45 wins with chatixard and Moltres. Also got several wins with eggsecutor.
My Marowak/Golbat meta killer deck has been popping off pretty consistently. Been beating a lot of other decks fairly easily as well.. Never underestimate a team full of 1 cost retreats
Would love to see a No-EX Meta Tier list 😊
Dragonite + Blastoise EX is so much fun. Run it with 2 Misty’s, for stack up on water energy for Blastoise, while the rest goes to dragonite. Snorlax as the buffer, and also Tentacriel as buffer/taking out 1 pokemon. After that usually either dragonite or Blastoise is good to go
Can i suggest perhaps the best anti-pika deck?
Melmetal-Butterfree. Very tough to beat for a pika team.
I feel everyone is sleeping on centiskorch. He comes online faster than charizard, being just a stage 1 and needing way less energy to start the sweep; he kills pikachu, starmie and zapdos w no effort, and paired with Giovanni can get surprise kills also on the other 2 legendary birds. Just because is cheaper than charizard that doesn't mean he is necessary worse, i'd say he is at least on par with zard due to his faster setup and i can see arguments for him being even better than the starter.
Moltres + centiskorch + arcanine is a good deck to run
Damn the gengar slander is crazy. I beat almost any deck with my gengar/gardeviour except for the crazy fast decks like EX starmie!
Wouldn’t call this combo a slow deck, I’d say mid range in speed if that makes any sense lol
Where is a good place to see TCG Pocket tournament results and decklists?
What do you think about Pidgeot decks?
I've been having fun playing Machamp/Onyx. I only have 1 machamp ex but regular champ does enough work as a sub.
I just have to wonder: Is Grapploct viable? Being able to repeatedly force the opponent to switch out as a stage 1 seems like a really useful ability for a good amount of these decks.
I’ve been having a lot of success with Blastoise Ex and Frostmoth. A Misty with only one energy is already great on that deck.
I got lucky enough to pull the golden Mewtwo Ex almost right away when installing the game. My now almost complete Mewtwo deck is pretty unstoppable. I didn't even think about baby mewtwo as a shield. I will have to pick that one up!
I have to say the deck that usually beats me is the quick draw articuno ex. It's really hard to ramp up my damage in time to counter this build.
I think the energy system should be changed. Start the odds at an even split between the energy types you have (50/50, 33/33/33) and then based on what energy you get, the next energy will be altered odds, at a rate of -10% for the energy you already received, with that percentage then split among the other energy evenly. So, the second pull will be 60-40, in favor of the energy you didn't get, then 70-30, 80-20, 90-10, too eventually be a guarantee for the other type you need. By the 6th energy, you will be guaranteed to get the other type and then the odds start swinging back the other way in increments of ten.
That and just being able to choose percentages on how much of each energy you want. Maybe I want 75% of 1 energy and 25% of the other and not a 50/50 split. Or maybe I want 60/20/20. Right now it's impossible to mix more than 2 and mixing 2 is already a huge handicap by itself.
I hear you about Dragonite -- if you use two lines dragonite cards, and two BASIC Articunos, you can play 2 misty cards -- i know it doesn't solve the energy problem, but it creates many more opportunities to get the energy you need
With Charizardex I consistently beat Mewtwo ex but have a hard time against Pika ex cuz of Moltres getting taken out too quickly
Have you tried a Poliwrath + Golduck deck? I've been playing with it and I have a high win rate.
I've been playing Blastoise double Starmie since day 3 and it's awesome.
Exeggutor ex and butterfree has been my favorite to play at the moment
where do I find these decks? It's hard to guess the deck from just two signature cards, especially when jsut starting out.
A Nido specific Rare Candy supporter would be perfect
@spragelsPocket, reconnaissance is what a scout in a military unit does. the word you're looking for is Renaissance which is a revival
Today I played somebody using an arbok Pidgeot deck. Pidgeot blows a certain pokémon into the active role and then arbok locks them in. It was really cool and I don't see Pidgeot getting talked about at all!
It's a 2nd stage with I believe 70x2 it's great support. But the build up is usually difficult and pidgi is super weak 10x1.
I'm a new player. Is there somewhere i could go to see all these deck compositions?
Saw a Greninja/Bruxish/Weezing deck earlier. Whooped me. So cool though
Try Greninja, Weezing and Bruxish, it’s super powerful, challenging and really fun playing!
At least B tier
Bruxish is slept on
@@jokerthefool_1120C*. It's a bit gimmicky and very prone to Sabrina. Especially since it tries to go for early aggression but can't really do so since its too reliant on small, early chip damage, which can be countered by potion.
Any thoughts on the Mewtwo Ex/Gardevoir deck with Articuno Ex and Misty for early game, or is adding Mewtwo to Mewtwo Ex strictly better?
Ive been running dragonite hypno snorlax. Very underrated
Do you think we will ever get a Card for a duel Type pokemon thats a different type? For example, a Psychic Type Slowking. You play a water slowpoke and evolve to a psychic Slowking or a Water Slowbro. Or like a Ground Kleavor and Steel Scizor evolving from a Grass Scyther.
Idk if the regular TCG has that sort of thing, but it could make for interesting decks
Personally running x2 Venusaur EX line, x2 Lilligent line, and x1 Exeggutor EX line. 12 total poke cards but it gives you two routes for steam rolling, with Venu as the late game anchor.
My of meda decks I've been having a lot of fun with are executor ex Beedrill deck really aggressive with 1 energy attacks, wheezing Alakazam, primate marowak ex, and adding Pidgeot to the arbok wheezing deck.
This tier list for Standart or expanded?
you should join the tournament, so you can make a better tierlist, imagine putting venusaur above starmie etc lol
I play moltres/char ex and it feels like I have a positive win rate vs mewtoo, but struggle to keep up with Pikachu or maro.
i'm glad you put Primeape at A. ive been running Onix/Primeape and the ability to get online quick with promo Mankey and Brocks for Onix has given me multiple long winning streaks. Primeape can KO Pika EX in one shot and it hits anything weak to fighting hard. you can run various other mons to type coverage, like a single Heliolisk or Mienshao, or two Farfetch'd or Kanga for fast neutral damage
Since I still did not hit guardevoir, charizard or Pikachu after drawing 700cards, I still have to play some alternatives. My favourite so far is Blaine aggro or a alakazam with chansey. Especially the second one feels super strong since Alakazam counters almost every EX Pokémon. Knogga seems to be the biggest counter.
I agree with dragonite being lower tier; he is fun to use but takes forever to setup and by the time you get em up your opponent will be setup on their side on top of the many inconsistencies the deck provides.
Exeguttor ex/ alakazam is what I'm running with
Venutor pilot here, recently heard of it, thanks for confirmation
Dragonite with tentacrule and arcticuno (non ex) and misty is a fun deck, but still in consistent. Ive seen some people use dragonite with eeevee vapreon jolteon combo so your energy never goes to waste.
@@shammersanonymous no need for tentacruel -- Articuno alone is enough (can also run a fossil for Sabrina protection). I've played A LOT of Dragonite and Dragonite + Reg Articuno has had the best results. Dragonite + Weezing has been next best.
@Frozendude19 I just like poisoning EX cards lol
You have to use melmetal strategically in a water deck. Use it to meat shield while you build blastoise with Misty’s
try out greninja seadra deck been fun using it lol
2PikaEX - 2Pika+2Raichu - 2Magnamite+2Magneton - 2St Surge -> This breaks every game. Pika EX is a fast way to get quick kills, and if your opponent tries to put something strong, Raichu can attack very fast if you have Magneton creating energy and using St. Surge to transfer it to Raichu. I can't count the times where the opponent just didn't defend their deck because they saw my Raichu with 0-1 energy and thought they would have an extra turn.
You could put starmie and exeggutor cards on s! It would be cool to understand better the meta. I mean, Ithink it would be true and it felt like you were saying it in some ways.
Also I think Starmie Articuno deserves to be S tier lately, if they get an early Misty they can get going fast and not let you set up
when i started the game i built a blame archanine deck cus its all i really had but it works pretty well
VERY IMPORTANT PSA FOR DRAGONITE DECK USERS. If you pick the option with koffing don’t be afraid to keep dark energy in your deck! Both dragonaire and dragonite can take it and it makes your koffing way more annoying.
Where can I see all the exact cards of each deck?
I had a game where I got 14 electric energy in a row. Damn near made it to a tie, but it was so frustrating