Quirks and Jerks of the Skyactiv Drive

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  • Опубликовано: 4 дек 2024

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  • @davidarf-sv
    @davidarf-sv 3 месяца назад +3

    This has been really really helpful to understand how all of that works! You sir deserve a very cold beer.

  • @zacharyisraelsen8484
    @zacharyisraelsen8484 10 месяцев назад +12

    Such a helpful video. I just bought a 2021 Mazda 3 and it's my first automatic car. I wasn't sure how automatics were supposed to feel driving them, and with all the rpm weirdness, I'd convinced myself that the transmission was dying. Thanks for making me a little less anxious!

    • @21mazda3turbo3
      @21mazda3turbo3  10 месяцев назад +4

      Not a problem. The Skyactiv does drive a little differently than a regular automatic, and I get asked often if there is a problem with them.

  • @thetechlibrarian
    @thetechlibrarian Год назад +30

    These transmissions seem to like a rather firm pedal input.

    • @truthhurts2149
      @truthhurts2149 10 месяцев назад +2

      They definitely do. I wish Mazda would have tested these more in steep terrain. I find it doesn't know which gear to pick when going up slight inclines and around curves. My 2015 tries to lock the converter going up our very steep driveway. It's annoying but this video helps explains a lot.

    • @neonnoir9692
      @neonnoir9692 9 месяцев назад +8

      I never noticed it until i started driving more conservatively, both of mine just want blast off all the time, it's like calm down bro gas is over $3 rn

    • @fartzr.schmelli3351
      @fartzr.schmelli3351 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah my CX-5 turbo does weird stuff once in a while. Almost like it's starting of in 2nd gear or short shifting really early. But with some more pedal it downshifts and the Turbo starts doing it thing. It's annoying cuz the power is not there then all of a sudden Whoosh! Even with AWD, the mild torque steer can catch you off guard! FYI...

  • @jasonashley9853
    @jasonashley9853 Год назад +6

    I do sometimes get a small shudder sensation at lower speeds. Believe it's something to do with the torque converter engaging/disengaging.

  • @zero7523
    @zero7523 Год назад +3

    Very good explanation from a more technical perspective!

  • @macro820
    @macro820 10 месяцев назад +4

    Only thing that bothers me is when slow to stop and roll the stop sign then it feels like its in neutral for a second after you try to accel again. I love that the engine brakes or tries to let you coast depending if you hit the brake or gas last

  • @jaynuck
    @jaynuck Год назад +6

    Another invaluable post. Thank you.

  • @steezymakeithit
    @steezymakeithit 5 месяцев назад +6

    I just picked up a 2019 Mazda 3 with 30k miles a couple weeks ago. Every car I've owned before had a CVT Transmission (with issues) and it took some getting used to driving the new car. At first, I was too used to being very gentle with the gas pedal, as if I pressed hard on the gas in my old car the transmission would lose power, but I've found that my Mazda seems to prefer me to put a little more pressure on the gas. It seems to jerk when it shifts if I'm too gentle, but it drives super smooth when I drive a little more "aggressive" than I would in my old car.

    • @crayolaxXxcre8tives
      @crayolaxXxcre8tives 4 месяца назад +1

      That’s what I noticed with my 2022 Mazda 2.5 hatch. My car clamps when the revs are low it’s like the clutches seem to jerk. But when I step on the pedal all the way it shifts perfectly. So weird.

    • @marcolam6662
      @marcolam6662 2 дня назад +1

      Same, I thought the transmission was fucked up

  • @thetechlibrarian
    @thetechlibrarian Год назад +8

    Thank you for the explanation. There are definitely some quirks but all in all it feels really good Honestly the only transmission I’ve ever driven in a regular car that's significantly better is the zf8 that's a amazing transmission. ,

  • @SpinonDuality
    @SpinonDuality Год назад +3

    Seriously so helpful. Thanks for the awesome video!

  • @dr.fillyblunt7505
    @dr.fillyblunt7505 3 месяца назад +1

    I just got a 12 mazda 3 and noticed a couple things coming from a stop I was concerned about. When I let off the brake there is a very brief but noticeable transition to where the car starts to roll forward like a normal automatic transmission. It doesn't feel smooth like my older 2004 chevy. It's like coming to a stop fully disengages the transmission until you let off the brake. Maybe this is one of the quirks you outline in your video, I'm not familiar with modern cars. Also when I'm rolling through a parking lot and just barely touch the gas to turn a corner sometimes it seems like the transmission can't make up it's mind and starts "bucking". This doesn't seem to be a problem when I'm firmer on the gas pedal. I went for a short drive earlier after watching this video and reproduced the lockup you demonstrate at 5mph. I'm thinking maybe that's where the bucking sensation might be coming from when I'm hanging around that area through a parking lot. This was driving me crazy because I thought maybe something was wrong but it appears it just might be the way this transmission is. I can live with that as long as it's not broken lol. I'm really not sure though, I found a TSB that suggests a "Slip Learning Procedure", I wonder if this is related. You really seem to know what you're talking about, appreciate the video.

  • @ERwelds
    @ERwelds 29 дней назад +1

    How do you disable cylinder deactivation? Can you make a video on this because no one knows how to disable it.

  • @jso726
    @jso726 8 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent video and even better explanation...Question: My 2015 Mazda 3 GT does the jerky/harsh 1-2 engagement mostly while decelerating in DRIVE (Not in Manual mode). Is it normal behavior as well?

  • @matsudakodo
    @matsudakodo Год назад +1

    Huh. I wonder if this is why my idle RPM increases in Off Road Mode? You'll feel it takes a little more braking force to keep the car from creeping. Maybe the Neutral Idle Control is disabled in OR Mode (2023 CX-5 Turbo AWD).

  • @garybeck8836
    @garybeck8836 4 месяца назад +1

    I have a 23 non turbo awd automatic carbon edition and mine jerks like a manual when driving slow through parking lots or traffic jams and hesitates alot when flooring it from a dead stop...was told it's the fuel management system when your under 20mph causing it...? I had to get used to it for sure

  • @wittwer427
    @wittwer427 Год назад +3

    One thing I noticed between both turbo awd and non turbo fwd I’ve owned is a jump/lurch at around 10ish mph. When rolling say around a parking lot at around 5-12 mph if you give it just a little gas from idle the whole car will jump/lurch like the motor mounts are blown and the engine is jumping. It was really bad on my fwd n/a until got a tsb applied that eased it but didn’t eliminate it. It’s rather annoying in parking lot driving or stop and go traffic.

    • @dr.fillyblunt7505
      @dr.fillyblunt7505 3 месяца назад

      I noticed the exact same thing turning corners in parking lots. I was doing some research, is that bulletin you're talking about the 05-004/12 "Shift Shock"?

  • @pseudowolf9
    @pseudowolf9 Год назад

    Hi, @21Mazda3Turbo. Thank you for sharing your very unique expertise on this channel! I wanted to ask your opinion on the set of issues with my Mazda as you seem to be very knowledgable about their SkyActiv ATs. If you don’t mind! So, I have the 2013 CX-5 GT AWD with 150k+ miles. During last year or so it has developed the following set of problems with the AT: a) the shifter may be very stiff when going from P to R (vehicle is stationary, the brake is fully depressed), it feels like you are forcing the shift and when it happens the whole car body shakes/jerks; b) in lower gears (most often it’s 2 -> 3), under higher than average acceleration the upshift may be delayed and come with another car body shake in the end; Note that it's really hard to bring it to someone for a diagnostic as these issues come and go and I can't reproduce them consistently as of now. I got this car when it already had 130k+ miles and the previous owner only followed the maintenance “by the book”, so no ATF changes were done to it. Is my AT basically a ticking bomb at this point or is there something that can be done to improve this situation short of a transmission rebuild? Thank you in advance! I would really appreciate your response.

  • @nah3193
    @nah3193 Год назад +3

    I call it 'character' lol. Once I stopped worrying about I really learned to like it and it's very predictable and consistent. I don't know if the 3rd gens unlock in manual mode off throttle in the same way, I've only really noticed when coming to a stop at like 15 mph or less.

  • @igorkovac4135
    @igorkovac4135 12 дней назад

    Can u figure out how to disable cylinder deactivation?

  • @wittwer427
    @wittwer427 Год назад

    Unrelated question here but you seem like the top expert on RUclips. Every once and a while on my turbo I’ll start up the car and after a little bit will drive off. Very rarely I’ll hear a noise that can best be described as a low frequency hydraulic pump kicking on and causing a buzz I can feel throughout the car and especially the steering wheel. There’s also a big draw it has on the engine power that requires a decent amount of throttle to overcome. It only comes on for like a second or two then goes away. It feels like it’s becoming more frequent. It kinda feels like it’s priming a system with hydraulic pressure. Think that this is something I should be a little concerned with or is this a normal occurrence. For reference I work on ships that will have 6-8 90hp electric motors connected to massive hydraulic pumps that will kick on our off to power our deck hydraulics. The sensation that I get feels and just like these deck hydros starting up on the boat but at probably half the frequency.

  • @ikejennings1154
    @ikejennings1154 6 месяцев назад

    Nice video! I know someone that hassa maz/ 3 with skyactive , & its more in towns, someimes starting off , you cant get on it, my comparison, the car jerks, like ol days ,when a universal.joint is bad onna drive shaft feeling..Shuddering / bucking,
    I thought, beings it was in / M patern, on the tranny, i told the person maybe it has another setting , to start ,like a automatic wiith overdrive..
    You only use overdrive, when your onna interstate highway , if you use it round town, just keep it in, Drive, The overdrive, same bucking feeling happens...
    Thanx for ur video!

  • @gideonx5
    @gideonx5 Год назад +2

    Great video and explans why the trans acts the way it does in this car. I've noticed the sport mode has some kind of effect on the trans. Is it bad to engage sport mode while driving?

    • @21mazda3turbo3
      @21mazda3turbo3  Год назад +3

      Sport mode does affect transmission operation. No negatives using it while driving or turning it off and on while driving.

    • @gideonx5
      @gideonx5 Год назад +1

      @@21mazda3turbo3 Thanks for the insight, definitely gives me some peace of mind. I just did this on my car and it does seem to be driving different, not as jerky as it was before. Are there any negatives to using manual mode ? I tend to use it quite often.

    • @21mazda3turbo3
      @21mazda3turbo3  Год назад +2

      No negatives to sport mode, it won't allow you to do anything that would hurt it. @@gideonx5

    • @svenschwingel8632
      @svenschwingel8632 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@gideonx5Sport mode uses a different transmission shift map and also changes the resistance to the accelerator potentiometer to give the engine a more spontaneous reaction (lower pedal position needed for the same throttle angle). Other than that, it's just a shift mode with higher revs. So I only use it if my engine is at safe operating temperature.

    • @gideonx5
      @gideonx5 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@svenschwingel8632 I'm not 100% sure but I think it also makes the timing a little more aggressive, you can hear it if you have an aftermarket exhaust.

  • @troyboy83
    @troyboy83 Месяц назад

    Can you do the exact same video but out of Manual mode ...

  • @thetechlibrarian
    @thetechlibrarian Год назад

    What scan tool are you using? I would love to be able to go into the computer and make little tweaks like I could with tech stream. Just simple things like changing the truck open chime , how many times the blinker flashes with a single press etc etc

  • @edwardwheeler5879
    @edwardwheeler5879 7 месяцев назад +1

    Definitely don’t listen to the “lifetime transmission fluid BS” my 21 was shifting like crap and hesitating between 1st and 2nd shifts really bad. Finally around 90,000 I dropped the pan and it was HORRIBLE!! Says you will need 5 quarts with a filter change but mine needed close to 6 and I had no leaks so had to be low from the get go! After the change it is soooo much better, being it was so burnt I’m going to change it again when I do the next oil change and then maybe again in 30,000 if I still have it.

  • @1992vinod
    @1992vinod Год назад +1

    I see...my new cx8 2.5t is quite jerky.....good explanation bro.....got used to cvt😅....is it normal for small thud sound when clutch disengages, and we press pedal almost immediately??...sounds like lockup or clutch but cana only be hear when turned off ac and radio

    • @anthony-ob6lw
      @anthony-ob6lw 10 месяцев назад

      my mazda with 172,000 miles does this same thing

  • @hindesite
    @hindesite 11 месяцев назад +1

    Is this the default behavior - has the transmission been reset before describing the behavior in this video?

    • @21mazda3turbo3
      @21mazda3turbo3  11 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, this is the default behavior.

  • @Notfiveo0
    @Notfiveo0 Год назад +3

    No start stop on N. America Mazdas.

    • @jasonashley9853
      @jasonashley9853 Год назад +3

      I hate start/stop. I always turn it off. It's clunky and wears on a starter.

    • @pussinboots1145
      @pussinboots1145 5 месяцев назад

      @@jasonashley9853 i-stop and Gasoline Engines
      While conventional idling stop systems rely on a starter motor to restart the engine, Mazda’s i-stop restarts the engine through combustion; fuel is directly injected into a cylinder while the engine is stopped and ignited to generate downward piston force. The result is a quick and quiet engine re-start compared to other systems and a significant saving in fuel.

    • @Luciano-IL
      @Luciano-IL 5 месяцев назад

      @@jasonashley9853 I own a 2022 mazda 3. start and stop not working when u have ac on or even ventilation or windows defrost. it's a smart car......

  • @nikawakadze7689
    @nikawakadze7689 2 месяца назад

    Hello, I have a mazda 6 2018 25k miles, when accelerating with little touch on accelerato I feel jerky movement , if I hit it moderately, it changes gears perfectly, is itnormal? i tried initial learning test but it doesnt help

  • @laurentium3337
    @laurentium3337 5 месяцев назад

    Does this lockup process happen with every shift (auto mode) or just in 1st? I'm noticing the same rpm behavior (up and down after shifting) with most shifts. Maybe it depends on how hard or easy I'm pushing the throttle.
    I don't feel any jerkyness. It shifts smoothly. I'm mainly wondering if it's normal to have this happening even in other gears?

  • @nelsonnarciso1791
    @nelsonnarciso1791 10 месяцев назад

    Great video best detailed vidoe I've seen so far. Question I have 21 mdza 3 2.5 turbo and my idle sits at about just a little over the 500 rpm range yours sits at 3/4 say 750 800 . Is there a idle relearn I need to do or you think there's an issue here. Thk you

    • @21mazda3turbo3
      @21mazda3turbo3  10 месяцев назад +1

      The idle tables have quite a few targets to hit. Load and coolant temp play a large part in that. Before I had the car tuned, it would hit in the 500rpm range, but I've set the idle to not fall below 750.

    • @nelsonnarciso1791
      @nelsonnarciso1791 9 месяцев назад

      @@21mazda3turbo3 ok so it's normal operation then

    • @21mazda3turbo3
      @21mazda3turbo3  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yep@@nelsonnarciso1791

    • @nelsonnarciso1791
      @nelsonnarciso1791 9 месяцев назад

      @21mazda3turbo3 so I notice how the rpm works now with this car. When I have defrost and feet setting selected on climate control the rpm stays high at the 750 range. So when I selected Just feet air fow the rpm stays at the above 550 range. So I've been always driving woth defrost and feet selected so I always seen the higher rpm reading. Smart car system to save on fuel. Thanks for your quick reply back.

  • @ampm9771
    @ampm9771 5 месяцев назад

    I have the same problem with my Mazda 3 with manual transmission. I believe it is the throttle body issue.

  • @jasonashley9853
    @jasonashley9853 Год назад

    Why am I not getting a gear reading on my OBD2 device? It just reads "0".

  • @МаксимМосяков-ъ8з

    Thank you for the video! I have this question - is it possible to somehow strengthen the automatic transmission of the CX30 FWD non turbo? For example, if I replace my own gearbox with a transmission from the turbo version?
    I have a supercharger installed and it looks like I made the transmission really bad :)

    • @devondelgado1818
      @devondelgado1818 8 месяцев назад

      The case itself is different for where it bolts tot the engine. The holes don’t line up

  • @javedgerardnikoravesh2761
    @javedgerardnikoravesh2761 8 месяцев назад +2

    Mazda 3 2016 model tends to jerk the moment I almost come to a full stop, but once it’s almost stopping, I press accelerate.. it jerks
    Another scenario is when I drive long distances, and when I come to a full stop, the minute it stops, it jerks (by kinda moving forward)
    Anyone knows how to solve this two issues?

    • @luisochoa2268
      @luisochoa2268 5 месяцев назад

      Lo pudiste resolver??
      Me pasa igual o es normal ??

  • @dvgd999
    @dvgd999 Год назад

    Do you recommend people to do that Transmission relearn procedure? I had my car for 2 years never did that yet. Drives fine, wondering if it would eliminate some things and make it faster off the line or anything like that.

    • @21mazda3turbo3
      @21mazda3turbo3  Год назад

      Some people have reported improved shift quality. I know for me it cleared up a certain TCC behavior I didn't like and I purchased my car brand new.

    • @dvgd999
      @dvgd999 Год назад

      @@21mazda3turbo3 ive been trying to do the steps in the video but it doesn't work. car was on for over 1min. Temps were up like in the video, and followed all the steps. guess by your name it does work on the turbo models as well. just cant seem to get the last step to work where the gear numbers on the dash screen disappear. ill keep trying.

    • @Aysus
      @Aysus Год назад +3

      @@dvgd999 mash the brake . like you need to try to put your foot through the floor. and do not let off AT ALL til its done. most people think theyre pushing down hard enough when they're not.

    • @dvgd999
      @dvgd999 Год назад +1

      ​@Aysus got it to work. Yeah must have been not slamming the brake pedal through the floor that was the issue. Thanks for the help.

    • @Aysus
      @Aysus Год назад

      @@dvgd999no problem!

  • @truthhurts2149
    @truthhurts2149 7 месяцев назад

    Pulling a trailer up a steep hill with loose terrain and you hit 6 mph and the torque converter wants to lock. Very annoying. Sure I can stay under 5mph but sometimes I need to get some speed to keep momentum to make it up loose gravel. Locking up in first makes no sense to me...

    • @MrKrugoval
      @MrKrugoval 3 месяца назад

      That is why you can put it in manual mode and start in second gear!

    • @truthhurts2149
      @truthhurts2149 3 месяца назад +1

      @@MrKrugoval bro I'm not starting in second gear crawling up a 20% grade at 10mph with a trailer

  • @gurulotg
    @gurulotg Год назад

    I have 2.0 Skyactiv G 2023 Mazda3 HB, my car has the same problem, car is new with 1000km Mileage. Any Idea how to resolve/fix this problem?

    • @kevinm9973
      @kevinm9973 9 месяцев назад

      i’m doing research on this as well for my girlfriends sky active 2023 Mazda3 and i think it’s the way it’s “programmed” tbh

  • @SKA343
    @SKA343 9 месяцев назад

    I think they’re crap

  • @Luciano-IL
    @Luciano-IL 5 месяцев назад

    stop bitching......... Mazda is a great car and the Japanese know what they are doing..... if u are not happy with your car,go and purchase a corrola with a CVT.........and i am talking about all that gave comments here.....🤬