_me back then:_ this was based on a Middle Eastern show, so it'll be fair and balaced towards Islam _me now:_ this was based on an Israeli show, so no wonder it was Islamophobic af
if you cant understand how using money made from preaching socialism to buy a mansion fundamentally undermines the movement at its core, as one of its biggest public figures, then idk what to tell you. much love
@@purplism4857 Yeah comrade!, socialism is when you are virtuous and poor, exclusively wear tattered rags and trash bags, and live in a hole you have dug in the woods. Look, I don't even watch Hasan. But the dude made a lot of money, without stealing the surplus value of a workforce's labour by ~virtue~ of owning the means of production. He didn't undermine socialist ideals at all. Unless you consider "experiencing success" to be a betrayal. I'm not a fan of flash cars and huge mansions, but that just means i'd be spending that money of different, but equally frivolous stuff in his position. Honestly, it makes socialism look bad when you act like being able to obtain luxury items is antithetical to it's principles. Don't play into the stereotype that leftists want to create a drab, joyless, world where everyone is equally miserable. What would you have him do instead? give it all away to [CAUSE YOU LIKE]? if that's such a grand moral imperative, why aren't you doing that? you definitely own things that you don't need, why didn't you donate that money instead? How much would he have to give away before he got back in your good graces?
@@PumkRock his checks are being written by jeff bezos, and his platform exists because his uncle runs a billionaire funded corporate media network masquerading as anti-establishment. just because someone says "public ownership of the means of production" every so often does not make them a socialist lol. and making money isn't even really the problem so much as spending it on a mansion and a luxurious lifestyle, and since consumerism is the beating heart of the capitalist dilemma, it does fundamentally undermine everything he preaches to live in such a way. not to mention he has some pretty imperialistic takes and is moderate when it comes to real action.
@@PumkRock there is nuance though, socialism is not when no house, socialism is certainly not when driving his newly bought porsche down skidrow and laughing at the peasants. do you really just have to say "marx is based" to justify your hyper-consumerist capitalist lifestyle? what a joke, its just a rich white circlejerk to pretend they give a shit about the rest of the world.
I think another example of fucked up Muslim representation from that era was the Muslims on Lost. Sayid, one of the main characters, worked for the Iraqi military as like a torturer. He betrays the Iraqis to the US military to relocate with his gf and by """"pure coincidence"""" he just so happens to run into an old friend of his living in Australia and he tries to recruit Sayid into a terrorist attack they're planning on the Syndney opera house. Sayids a well written character and Lost is a great show, but god it has that early 2000s energy when it comes to how it portrays Muslims.
God the ending of this episode was depressing. I remember libs back in 2000-2008 talking about how GWB was the worst president ever and basically evil incarnate. Then Obama got elected and we just forgot about him.
The only analogy that makes any goddamn sense for bourgie electoral politics in the US is pro wrestling. It's all fucking kayfabe designed to trick the working class into thinking the two main parties aren't essentially a ruling coalition that's captured 99.5% of the federal and all local and state governments, if not a single neoliberal party with two rival factions that loudly disagree over the details. Pro-wrestling kayfabe has sufficient explanatory power for the "never-Trumper" GOP phenomenon: I can think of hardly any other context to explain the likes of Dubya doing a heel-face turn without actually changing his politics or interrogating his own role in creating the massive surveillance and homeland security infrastructure Trump inherited. Likewise, the pro wrestling analogy perfectly explains rotating villains like Manchinema (or Joe Lieberman back in 2009-2010) scoring what look like own goals against the Democrats: 8 other senators are also "blue dog" fiscal hawks but only 1 or 2 are needed to openly oppose bills like BBB to make it look like Schumer can't get them passed without Republican support. Mapping the rotating villain phenomenon to the "team sports" analogy doesn't work: an NFL player who deliberately and openly throws the football for the opposing team to catch, and who makes a show of going out of his way to grief his own team, would get sacked _very_ quickly. At no point have I heard talk of censuring Manchin or Sinema, or outright expelling them from the party, for this sort of open sabotage. No, party discipline only exists as a force to suppress succdem House Dems like AOC who actually want to score victories for working-class voters, but who fail to recognize that they're essentially Stone Cold acting as controlled opposition for Vince McMahon.
@@discountchocolate4577 hey I've been touting this idea for a long time elderly MMA let's make Donald Trump fight Barack Obama and whoever wins gets to be the king of the blacks
I remember watching thiswhen it was airing. I was I guess what you can say right leaning libertarian and even at the time I was like "Yeah but like, you cant just walk around thinking all Muslims are still loyal to the country they came from, that is definitely wrong and sounds like the antisemetic trope of dual allegiances" and I think it triggered a sleeper agent liberal in me, lol. Thank Ayn Rand that my copy of Atlas Shrugged was there to remind me I must not stray from my ways. Such horrible literature. She died a leech on the state according to her definition, as she had social security,
I would have been a libertarian if I could find a copy of Atlas Shrugged in my tiny local library. Unfortunately I could not and the world was saved another sub-stack blogger
@@polishedpebble4111 blood? And what state department talking points? I guess you have no, absolutely no idea where that reference is coming from, right? And how dare he buy himself nice things, right? Hasan is the reason, we haven't established anarcho communism in the US, right?
The discussion of mental illness, identity politics and the portrayal of the CIA in this episode gets me wanting to hear the boys talking about Inside Job (the Netflix animated series)
I love that one,!!!!! One of, if not the best new cartoon's made, since Aquateen Hunger Force!! I realize the latter is of the ledge & not the same category,quite, pretty close in some respect s., Oops forgot " Archer" lmao definitely on the lever with Aqua teen, lmao never gets in old ,e be en after 11 seasonsBut even the theme song for " inside Jo "" is also killer , lmao, Almost there lol with " I am Shake zulla, the Mike ruler " too much, I pray they get several more seasons out of it.
socialism = internet aesthetics We all have to like and dislike the right people in order to display the correct social cues. Engaging in anything beyond twitter arguments is bourgeoise and counter revolutionary
Unrelated question for Chris: what is the track you used at the end of ep601 Convoy feat. Dan Boeckner? I keep trying to search the lyric "the cattle have eyes fashioned of steel" and all im coming up with is npr articles about how drawing eyes on cow's asses keeps predators away or something... I must have this bop! Thanks in advance, -Shrieking Hog
I like both of these guys, their sociopolitics are fine; but was this a bit incoherent for anyone else? Had no idea what Felix was describing, kept wondering Who What Where etc, like in a dream. Thanks for hanging out though.
16:35 It's really more of a spartan agōgē situation, where they deliberately make entrance conditions almost impossible so the only people who pass are those with the necessary skills to cover up their actions and falsify records.
As an extreme ginger myself I reject the claim that Damian Lewis is “the most ginger man is the world”. Clown statement from a big clown man in a big clown house and a tiny clown car.
Yeah I like the show. I like Taken too. Sometimes dirty propaganda is just fun. (And honestly on the grand scheme of Hollywood war crimes, this one wasn’t so bad.)
propaganda is fun if you know what you're watching. to me the problem is i think lots of people forget that or don't realize. since Americans only watch TV, so many think shows like this are real life; maybe not the specifics but in broad stokes. they conclude that, in general, the country is always under threat of evil foreigners are trying to infiltrate and the Intel/military institutions are generally oriented towards stopping that sort of threat. they replace understanding with watching and consuming
@@pantsedjuniorhayseed4816 If it’s ineffective propaganda that makes it even easier to watch though. Like I genuinely think in Homeland the creative forces that aren’t on board with the politics of the deep state got more out of the relationship with the CIA than vice versa. The key question is who the hell watches this show and A thinks the lead characters are heroic, and B leaves with a positive enough impression of the CIA to the point where they’d sign up? In Season Four she’s known as “The Drone Queen” and in one part of the show she considers drowning her own child. Honestly the main takeaway I got from the show was you’d have to be mentally ill to wanna belong to those psychopaths.
the first 3 seasons and nothing else is the perfect way to watch this show. Im so dedicated to this religion ive created, I will never watch beyond that beautiful season 3 finale. what a ____hanger
Time for my stories is a good show! They should stick to movie and TV commentary. I lost a lot of respect for their political analysis when the opposed ForceTheVote
There’s only two ways they can go, noble curly haired forest angels or they look like the help staff of said forest angels that are forced to live below ground
I think I only got about 5 (?) Seasons into this show. It got too ridiculous on top of the original ridiculousness it set up in the beginning. I could sympathize with the strain of a service member adjusting to being home after being in a VERY high stress environment for years, and the family adjusting to their Dad acting abnornally - but he came back and REENLISTED, was somehow home all the time (when he should have at least been attending every training briefing he missed over the last years). Then someone tells him he should run for Congress and he quits the Marines? AFTER REENLISTING???
Wait, I'm supposed to pronounce Morena Baccarin's name as Moreena Bakaren? I've been pronouncing it as Mohr-enna Bac-arren this whole time. Maybe I'll just pronounce it as Inara Serra from now on.
love Hasan. fave himbo. He has the classical handsome looks and funny anger, Felix has the brains. together they'd make for a good buddy comedy maybe who tf knows
Please use the term anti muslim bigotry instead of Islamophobia to call out bigotry We can criticize and mock any dogma-cults,religions,etc We must not criticize or mock any believer of those dogmas
There is no meaningful difference between a religion and the people that practice it. A religion is defined by the concrete praxis of the community that practices it. As such there is no way to hate Islam and not hate muslims. Islam doesn't exist abstractly, but amongst a real community of believers. "Anti Muslim Bigotry" would normalize that you can hate the "idea" of Islam, and as such plays into far right rhetorics of figures like Sam Harris. Islamophobia is a good label.
@@GormTheElder So criticizing and mocking a movie is same as mocking criticizing the fans of that movie. Please rethink what u said Before u start to reply
@@luker.6967 It is to say that to hate capitalism is to hate your boss. When we criticise capitalism for being violent, we don't just mean the abstrsct idea of it. When we say it's exploitative, we don't just mean the abstract idea of it. When we say it's imperialistic, we don't just mean the abstract idea of it. We mean the people that benefit from it. Who carry it out. We mean the bosses and enforcers. We mean that they as a class are all of those things. Anyone worth their salt should know this. To say that Islam is inherently violent is to say that muslims are inherently violent. To say that capitalism is inherently violent is to say that capitalists are inherently violent.
Interesting; I never considered this before, but it makes sense. And I would find it unintuitive to use equivalent constructions like Hinduphobia or Christophobia
We need to cancel these grifters like hassssan. calling themselves socialist on the internet, to make big money. Even Friedrich "factory owner" Engels portrayed himself as socialist, just so Marx would let him hit that bussy.
@@noname_1377 Shut up, cancel culture doesn't belong in the left. There are enlightened elements among the rich. If they contribute to the socialist, cause so be it. Without Engels Marx's would be nowhere. You really need to work on your ignorance.
Can’t believe you had a homeowner on the show, unsubscribed
Homeowner? Just wait till they find out that he hides his money in other real estate he rents out.
_me back then:_ this was based on a Middle Eastern show, so it'll be fair and balaced towards Islam
_me now:_ this was based on an Israeli show, so no wonder it was Islamophobic af
yikes can't believe chapo would platform someone who doesn't live in a mud hut and eat grubs, unsubscribed
if you cant understand how using money made from preaching socialism to buy a mansion fundamentally undermines the movement at its core, as one of its biggest public figures, then idk what to tell you. much love
@@purplism4857 Yeah comrade!, socialism is when you are virtuous and poor, exclusively wear tattered rags and trash bags, and live in a hole you have dug in the woods.
Look, I don't even watch Hasan. But the dude made a lot of money, without stealing the surplus value of a workforce's labour by ~virtue~ of owning the means of production. He didn't undermine socialist ideals at all. Unless you consider "experiencing success" to be a betrayal. I'm not a fan of flash cars and huge mansions, but that just means i'd be spending that money of different, but equally frivolous stuff in his position.
Honestly, it makes socialism look bad when you act like being able to obtain luxury items is antithetical to it's principles. Don't play into the stereotype that leftists want to create a drab, joyless, world where everyone is equally miserable.
What would you have him do instead? give it all away to [CAUSE YOU LIKE]? if that's such a grand moral imperative, why aren't you doing that? you definitely own things that you don't need, why didn't you donate that money instead? How much would he have to give away before he got back in your good graces?
ugh he also has such a small head smh
@@PumkRock his checks are being written by jeff bezos, and his platform exists because his uncle runs a billionaire funded corporate media network masquerading as anti-establishment. just because someone says "public ownership of the means of production" every so often does not make them a socialist lol.
and making money isn't even really the problem so much as spending it on a mansion and a luxurious lifestyle, and since consumerism is the beating heart of the capitalist dilemma, it does fundamentally undermine everything he preaches to live in such a way.
not to mention he has some pretty imperialistic takes and is moderate when it comes to real action.
@@PumkRock there is nuance though, socialism is not when no house, socialism is certainly not when driving his newly bought porsche down skidrow and laughing at the peasants. do you really just have to say "marx is based" to justify your hyper-consumerist capitalist lifestyle? what a joke, its just a rich white circlejerk to pretend they give a shit about the rest of the world.
I think another example of fucked up Muslim representation from that era was the Muslims on Lost. Sayid, one of the main characters, worked for the Iraqi military as like a torturer. He betrays the Iraqis to the US military to relocate with his gf and by """"pure coincidence"""" he just so happens to run into an old friend of his living in Australia and he tries to recruit Sayid into a terrorist attack they're planning on the Syndney opera house. Sayids a well written character and Lost is a great show, but god it has that early 2000s energy when it comes to how it portrays Muslims.
The amount of ultras seething about how Hasan points out the inherent suckage of Glenn Greenwald in this comment section is truly astounding.
Greenwald was key to freeing Lula he gets no points for that?
The western left only seems to care about twitter.
@@CallousCarter there is no left in america and chapo proves it.
God the ending of this episode was depressing. I remember libs back in 2000-2008 talking about how GWB was the worst president ever and basically evil incarnate. Then Obama got elected and we just forgot about him.
And then he became worthy of respect and admiration, especially after the rise of trump. 🙄
The only analogy that makes any goddamn sense for bourgie electoral politics in the US is pro wrestling. It's all fucking kayfabe designed to trick the working class into thinking the two main parties aren't essentially a ruling coalition that's captured 99.5% of the federal and all local and state governments, if not a single neoliberal party with two rival factions that loudly disagree over the details. Pro-wrestling kayfabe has sufficient explanatory power for the "never-Trumper" GOP phenomenon: I can think of hardly any other context to explain the likes of Dubya doing a heel-face turn without actually changing his politics or interrogating his own role in creating the massive surveillance and homeland security infrastructure Trump inherited.
Likewise, the pro wrestling analogy perfectly explains rotating villains like Manchinema (or Joe Lieberman back in 2009-2010) scoring what look like own goals against the Democrats: 8 other senators are also "blue dog" fiscal hawks but only 1 or 2 are needed to openly oppose bills like BBB to make it look like Schumer can't get them passed without Republican support. Mapping the rotating villain phenomenon to the "team sports" analogy doesn't work: an NFL player who deliberately and openly throws the football for the opposing team to catch, and who makes a show of going out of his way to grief his own team, would get sacked _very_ quickly. At no point have I heard talk of censuring Manchin or Sinema, or outright expelling them from the party, for this sort of open sabotage. No, party discipline only exists as a force to suppress succdem House Dems like AOC who actually want to score victories for working-class voters, but who fail to recognize that they're essentially Stone Cold acting as controlled opposition for Vince McMahon.
@@discountchocolate4577 hey I've been touting this idea for a long time elderly MMA let's make Donald Trump fight Barack Obama and whoever wins gets to be the king of the blacks
And don't forget Dick Cheney
i’m sure these comments are fine
I remember watching thiswhen it was airing. I was I guess what you can say right leaning libertarian and even at the time I was like "Yeah but like, you cant just walk around thinking all Muslims are still loyal to the country they came from, that is definitely wrong and sounds like the antisemetic trope of dual allegiances" and I think it triggered a sleeper agent liberal in me, lol. Thank Ayn Rand that my copy of Atlas Shrugged was there to remind me I must not stray from my ways. Such horrible literature. She died a leech on the state according to her definition, as she had social security,
I would have been a libertarian if I could find a copy of Atlas Shrugged in my tiny local library. Unfortunately I could not and the world was saved another sub-stack blogger
I can hear the sweet sound of cheeto dust encrusted fingers mashing keys to type out how much they dislike Hasan being on chapo.
Ha Ha Good 1
Nice!
lmao yep
I'll take cheeto dust over blood. Enjoy sending your parents money to buy grifters porsches and mansions while parroting state dep. talking points.
@@polishedpebble4111 blood? And what state department talking points?
I guess you have no, absolutely no idea where that reference is coming from, right?
And how dare he buy himself nice things, right? Hasan is the reason, we haven't established anarcho communism in the US, right?
The discussion of mental illness, identity politics and the portrayal of the CIA in this episode gets me wanting to hear the boys talking about Inside Job (the Netflix animated series)
That show was like drinking pure corn syrup, too smooth
I love that one,!!!!! One of, if not the best new cartoon's made, since Aquateen Hunger Force!! I realize the latter is of the ledge & not the same category,quite, pretty close in some respect s., Oops forgot " Archer" lmao definitely on the lever with Aqua teen, lmao never gets in old ,e be en after 11 seasonsBut even the theme song for " inside Jo "" is also killer , lmao,
Almost there lol with " I am Shake zulla, the Mike ruler " too much, I pray they get several more seasons out of it.
@@andymilic4093 are you okay?
@@andymilic4093 Hi im meatball
@@benjaminghazi9276 speaking of adult animation though, your avatar reminds me - Xavier, now THAT was a show
lol so much Hasan hate I thought that was just a meme lol
just butthurt Liberals, Libertarians, and Conservatives high off inconsequential twitter drama (cant forget about day 1 socialists)
socialism = internet aesthetics
We all have to like and dislike the right people in order to display the correct social cues. Engaging in anything beyond twitter arguments is bourgeoise and counter revolutionary
To my knowledge Iran DID cooperate with the US in Afghanistan to overthrow the Taliban, specifically in Herat. But it's not widely acknowledged.
My so called CIA life
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Unrelated question for Chris: what is the track you used at the end of ep601 Convoy feat. Dan Boeckner?
I keep trying to search the lyric "the cattle have eyes fashioned of steel" and all im coming up with is npr articles about how drawing eyes on cow's asses keeps predators away or something...
I must have this bop!
Thanks in advance,
-Shrieking Hog
I learned from Homeland that PAKISTAN is an anagram.
Pakistan is GOBLIN spelled backwards!
I like both of these guys, their sociopolitics are fine; but was this a bit incoherent for anyone else? Had no idea what Felix was describing, kept wondering Who What Where etc, like in a dream. Thanks for hanging out though.
Dude yes it's like they assumed we watched the show before taking about it
@@15clank nah I watched the show. Its exactly as incoherent as their rundown
I was waiting for this when Matt and Felix did Time for My Stories, glad they finally talked this show
I want them to do Glee. What a bizarre show that was to dominate pop culture for like a year and a half.
New rule: I'm gay
16:35 It's really more of a spartan agōgē situation, where they deliberately make entrance conditions almost impossible so the only people who pass are those with the necessary skills to cover up their actions and falsify records.
"He's so ginger ... " Getting to the heart of the thing.
2012 was a trip
Everyone I've heard talk about this show who likes it are like "the first two seasons were good then it was bad for years, then it got good again"
You mean Chapo or Homeland?
Among us
This is far less interesting with only two people. They need the gang to make it fun.
the amount of unwarranted hate is ridiculous... y'all are great, keep doing what y'all doing. sending love and good energy
Will you ever upload #7, A Million Little Things 2? 🥺
Hi chat
As an extreme ginger myself I reject the claim that Damian Lewis is “the most ginger man is the world”. Clown statement from a big clown man in a big clown house and a tiny clown car.
Do you have a near immunity to poison ivy poison sumac poison oak and the like? Also a higher tolerance for anesthesia/ pain killers?
100k subs! Go get that button Chris! You've earned it buddy 👍
Yeah I like the show. I like Taken too. Sometimes dirty propaganda is just fun. (And honestly on the grand scheme of Hollywood war crimes, this one wasn’t so bad.)
propaganda is fun if you know what you're watching. to me the problem is i think lots of people forget that or don't realize. since Americans only watch TV, so many think shows like this are real life; maybe not the specifics but in broad stokes. they conclude that, in general, the country is always under threat of evil foreigners are trying to infiltrate and the Intel/military institutions are generally oriented towards stopping that sort of threat. they replace understanding with watching and consuming
@@pantsedjuniorhayseed4816
If it’s ineffective propaganda that makes it even easier to watch though. Like I genuinely think in Homeland the creative forces that aren’t on board with the politics of the deep state got more out of the relationship with the CIA than vice versa. The key question is who the hell watches this show and A thinks the lead characters are heroic, and B leaves with a positive enough impression of the CIA to the point where they’d sign up? In Season Four she’s known as “The Drone Queen” and in one part of the show she considers drowning her own child. Honestly the main takeaway I got from the show was you’d have to be mentally ill to wanna belong to those psychopaths.
Agreed. The show is fucking ridiculous but good fun. Just don’t buy into the mythology and enjoy.
the first 3 seasons and nothing else is the perfect way to watch this show. Im so dedicated to this religion ive created, I will never watch beyond that beautiful season 3 finale. what a ____hanger
Morena Baccarin is insanely hot and she's a really good actress, too. She was great as Black Canary in Justice League Unlimited.
so excited!
Hope Felix does another This is Sus, they're almost always excellent AF.
Time for my stories is a good show! They should stick to movie and TV commentary. I lost a lot of respect for their political analysis when the opposed ForceTheVote
@@WanderingIdiot81 Imagine taking force the vote seriously. 😅😅
I don't think history does "roll-backs", alas.
Now do one with jerma
That ~Alex J*nes~ season made me dumber for having watched it/is also unimpeachable.
I really don’t like hasan but I don’t really care because I like it when Felix talks about tv shows
Hasan is of course based because he is handsome, but other than that I don’t find him impressive. Felix is an actual smart person who is funny
Hasan Grifter more like it
@@smuuthbrane7029 hell yeah the ultimate grift of.... convincing people to be leftists
Damien Lewis is hot for a ginger.
There’s only two ways they can go, noble curly haired forest angels or they look like the help staff of said forest angels that are forced to live below ground
Where’s sus Virgil…
Pretty sure he left Chapo long before the allegations came out, ask BJG.
who?
I think I only got about 5 (?) Seasons into this show. It got too ridiculous on top of the original ridiculousness it set up in the beginning. I could sympathize with the strain of a service member adjusting to being home after being in a VERY high stress environment for years, and the family adjusting to their Dad acting abnornally - but he came back and REENLISTED, was somehow home all the time (when he should have at least been attending every training briefing he missed over the last years). Then someone tells him he should run for Congress and he quits the Marines? AFTER REENLISTING???
Wait, I'm supposed to pronounce Morena Baccarin's name as Moreena Bakaren? I've been pronouncing it as Mohr-enna Bac-arren this whole time. Maybe I'll just pronounce it as Inara Serra from now on.
never correct your pronunciation of something based on hearing Felix say it
_NEVER_
Hasan nails it with the Woody Harrelson comparison. It's the intensity and good acting you associate with the guy. not ugly but not brad pitt
DIEGO KLATTENHOFF!!!!!!!
i havent seen this show and I can't follow this for shit
This is Felix at his most rambling and digressive, which is saying a lot
Brave mujahedeen
Solid
Such a good podcast. Hilarious!
Can ethan klein go on chapo?
please no dude has not been funny for 5 years
@@jakobsrensen1684 and chapo has?
@@jakobsrensen1684 He has a political show w hasan piker
@@authentic_candor oh god why
@@jakobsrensen1684 since he stopped being racist and sexist you mean?
love Hasan. fave himbo. He has the classical handsome looks and funny anger, Felix has the brains. together they'd make for a good buddy comedy maybe who tf knows
What was your male name at birth?
42:38
Virgilllllll!!!!!!!!!
Call me kooky, but I'm thinking this Hass-Ann jamoke doesn't know what he's talking about...
Call me kooky but I'm thinking there's a poison the well brigade making baseless assertions...
Aight then you're kooky
Yer kooky
@@DMO-DMO-DMO Can I be kooky too please?
@@andr0oS I need to see some verified kook-like behavior
“Hasan Piker! I’m coming to kill your!!!” - The Candyman
Knot se pdfile
@@69niceGoatboy what
"candyman" is a pdfile n@zi@@lukeguilfoyle2425
Why does Hasan do aave. It's really funny
you should see his Bostonian accent 🤣
The guest sounds quite dim
naw
hes just a himbo
i think Hasan is smarter than the Kyle Kulinski's of the world
@@waynetables6414 that's not saying much...
@@EgonSupreme agreed lol
"featuring hasan piker?" lmmfao
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Please use the term anti muslim bigotry instead of Islamophobia to call out bigotry
We can criticize and mock any dogma-cults,religions,etc
We must not criticize or mock any believer of those dogmas
There is no meaningful difference between a religion and the people that practice it. A religion is defined by the concrete praxis of the community that practices it. As such there is no way to hate Islam and not hate muslims. Islam doesn't exist abstractly, but amongst a real community of believers.
"Anti Muslim Bigotry" would normalize that you can hate the "idea" of Islam, and as such plays into far right rhetorics of figures like Sam Harris.
Islamophobia is a good label.
@@GormTheElder
So criticizing and mocking a movie is same as mocking criticizing the fans of that movie.
Please rethink what u said
Before u start to reply
@@GormTheElder By that logic if you hate capitalism you hate yourself.
@@luker.6967 It is to say that to hate capitalism is to hate your boss.
When we criticise capitalism for being violent, we don't just mean the abstrsct idea of it. When we say it's exploitative, we don't just mean the abstract idea of it. When we say it's imperialistic, we don't just mean the abstract idea of it.
We mean the people that benefit from it. Who carry it out. We mean the bosses and enforcers. We mean that they as a class are all of those things. Anyone worth their salt should know this.
To say that Islam is inherently violent is to say that muslims are inherently violent. To say that capitalism is inherently violent is to say that capitalists are inherently violent.
Interesting; I never considered this before, but it makes sense. And I would find it unintuitive to use equivalent constructions like Hinduphobia or Christophobia
Hasan shitting on Greenwald is so funny, truly emblematic of the radlib turn everything took after Bernie was forced to bend the knee.
Tucker Carlson is a socialist
The political issue Glenn Greenwald is most concerned about is “fighting Twitter wokeism.”
@@just_a_turtle_chad He quotes Marx at the beginnings of his segments now sometimes.
Black flag in bio
@@ellie3910 Dude literally fight's fascist's. Hasan supports them.
REEEEE SAM HIDE REEEEE
Knot se pdfile
Chapo is better of without Hasan
@@ozymandias___868 who cares. That's not really the point of any comment.
BTW, nice legs.
@@ozymandias___868 ozymandias DESTROYED by the sands of time (sjw fail compilation)
@@PhilipTraumWaits nah I'm happy they brought him on for an episode. I really liked the clips of Felix on Hasans stream
Give it a second chance. Check out the premium content on their OnlyFans.
Hassan "Capitalism is bad except when it makes me rich" Picker is a great, no idea why he gets so much hate.
only picker here is your mother, of your nose B^)
“Capitalism is when rich”
We need to cancel these grifters like hassssan. calling themselves socialist on the internet, to make big money. Even Friedrich "factory owner" Engels portrayed himself as socialist, just so Marx would let him hit that bussy.
@@noname_1377 Shut up, cancel culture doesn't belong in the left. There are enlightened elements among the rich. If they contribute to the socialist, cause so be it. Without Engels Marx's would be nowhere.
You really need to work on your ignorance.
Why can't Hasan just bring about Socialism in the US am I right.
Greenwald is more based than you will ever be right now.
"Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon and 2016 Trupm are socialists."
Based...
@@Cussy69_420 I thought I was having a stroke when I heard that sentence
@@ar2042 me too... That's the brain aids hammer, pounding in our heads, when we listen to these people too much!
based on what
Thanks for making me laugh buddy
"America deserved 9/11" - Hasan Piker
Classic
Based Hasan
PepeLa 8/21
Based as fuck
that's right