A Scientific Explanation For God? | Answers With Joe
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- I'm starting 2016 with one of the biggest questions of all - does God exist?
Now, before the hate comments roll in, I know that people's religious and spiritual beliefs are a very sensitive topic and I only present this to explain my own beliefs and thoughts on the subject. Take what you like, leave what you don't. But we're all cool here, dig?
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This video is a proof that you are a smart guy. To take a highly volatile topic and handle it like so elegantly while bringing people together and meanwhile enlightening them is mind blowing. Respect to you sir!
Vacillation is not enlightenment.
When it takes 12 minutes to say, I have no idea....how are you enlightened?
We understand less than 5% of what comprises this "universe". ( and how it works. )
There is a book entitled "We have no idea".....which lays this out. ( and it is far larger than
A Brief History of Time. )
27% is believed to be "dark matter", which we know "exists", but nothing more.
The rest has been labeled "dark energy", which may exist! ( and nothing else.)
Can you say you have been enlightened concerning the composition and mechanics of this universe?
For this question, however, you have all the evidence you require...so there is no need to
vacillate. Most people, do not vacillate, and they have no evidence to support their claims.
How is not pointing this fact out not elegant? He didn't bring anyone together, although he
no doubt, encouraged the people who do not have evidence, and do not vacillate, that he
may be a candidate for conversion....of course, the problem here is, there are so many
choices, and you have to get it right. And they can't all be right, but they all can be wrong.
Now that's mind blowing enlightenment.....( but most minds seems to resist enlightenment,
and do it with certainty...making the whole concept of what a mind is, quite inelegant. )
@@jgalt308 , Coffee does not vacillate and god is in coffee. Since coffee takes us to a higher state of awareness (or DMT for that matter, and all mind expansion drugs as well under that same umbrella), we must agree that what we are and what we ingest comprises our collective consciousness...that "connection" could be what brings us to the conclusion that god exists within all of us at a fundamental particle level. While I'm being silly in this explanation, I'm also being fundamentally philosophical as well. You don't know if god exists, but you also can't prove that god doesn't exist. All you or I or anyone has is this state of consciousness and your own specific brand of reality. We are flawed monkey-things trying to make sense of it all with limited perception and cognition. I think we are doing an amazing job so far. Joe is no exception in this matter. So to exclaim he is vacillating is a cop out on your part sir. He's doing his best to approach the matter with the tool set he has. And while I can agree with you both to a certain degree, I am unconvinced that any of us will figure this crap out in my lifetime. So, go with god, Buddha, Allah or any deity that suits your fancy...or not. It is entirely up to you. I go with uncertainty and I'm good with that. If that is vacillation in your opinion, then you aren't giving the fact that what we know is incredibly limited a fair shake...and that is you vacillating, not Joe. Keep in mind, he is trying to seek answers. You may not like his conclusion, but at least he is trying. What are you doing? Knowing? I highly doubt that, even more than the question of whether god exists...
Trying to seek answers to what? And repeating the "politically correct" vacillation
of what is essentially an allusion to a vague suggestion of agnosticism, which has "precise"
elements, is not seeking "anything"......since agnosticism is an "answer", while the pretense
of weakening it to mean, "I don't know" or hoping it will be interpreted to mean that, is
VACILLATION.
Being alive in the "present" gives one a far greater "tool set", than has ever been available,
so to claim he is making use of it, to seek answers, for this question is unsupported, and
your use of logical fallacy as a defense, fails. That we remain "flawed monkey-things" is
due to the refusal to use the tools and the rules of logical reasoning, and continuing to
fail to understand or accept, on whom or where the burden of proof lies, is also not trying.
Assertions regarding the existence of god, or a collective consciousness or unconsciousness
require evidence to support them, and if you have none, then I need do nothing to refute,
whatever you claim to believe, except to continue to expose, the fact, that you have no
evidence. Since Joe spends most of his time discussing matters of science, he is
no stranger to either the tools or the processes of science. Your grasp of them, at the
moment is "questionable"?
Still you are responding to a response directed at someone else, and probably "missed"
my direct response to this video, hiding among the 3000 plus comments, so I shall copy
it for you, and paste it as a reply to this one and which may make things clearer, as to
the nature and reasons for my "objection" and the reasons why it is "vacillation".
On the titles.....Does god exist? & ( Is There ) A Scientific Explanation For God?
The "problem" with this endless debate, is that it is not really a "debate" at all, but
circular nonsense, whose proposition attempts to connect two non-related conditions,
which have no commonality....and the attempt by one of them, to "impose" itself
on the "other", by making further "assumptions" regarding the "characteristics" of
the first condition as if they were "relevant and/or meaningful" to the conditions,
and there for the "behavior" required in the second.
The questions above "illustrate" the confusion that persists by the continued failure
to recognise this distinction.....which arises from the "assumption" that the questions
are 1.) Valid on their own merits. and 2.) Valid in juxtaposition. ( when taken together.)
For the purpose of linguistic precision, the first question is valid, but it assumes the
argument in the positive, so it is not posed in the proper form, and this confusion
is exacerbated by the second question, which without clarification, is incomplete
and it's imprecision, again confuses the two non related conditions, cited above.
Taken as written, neither of these questions is an accurate representation of the
question that is the "subject" of the debate...which is the following:
Did "god" cause or was "god" the cause.. of the existence of the universe.
Since the "universe" is the "effect"...and we are stuck in the "effect", in order
to make the first question consistent with this fact, the proper form of this
question should be: Is there evidence (scientific) for the existence of god?
And to make it consistent which the actual question it would need to
be expressed as : Is there any evidence ( scientific ) that god caused the
universe to exist?
The second question, now becomes even more "nebulous"....because given
the imprecision of the first question, the second demands even further elaboration.
( Is there ) A scientific explanation for god? which immediately prompts; as what?
As the "cause" of the universe? ( and many "others" that are not particularly nice
or relevant to the "actual" question, if it had been composed accurately.)
The 12 minutes of vacillation that follows proceeds to mangle all the "elements"
involved, mashing them together beyond recognition...including what "agnosticism"
is, which has two precisely defined elements as it pertains to the question of god.
1.) That there is no evidence for god. (scientifically observable and demonstrated)
2.) That certain conceptual elements of existence are ultimately unknowable. i.e.
The Absolute, infinity, eternity, etc.
And as indicated by Joe, this second element seems to have implications for
aspects of the physical universe as well......at both the micro and macro extremes.
Whatever the motivation here, whether it is "political correctness, apologetics of some sort,
or click bait" it's ultimate effect is to continue the "circular nonsense" of a debate,
that is in fact, not a debate, because these questions are irrelevant.....and those who are
stuck on the "empirical side".....find themselves on the defensive, because of the
"incompleteness" of our physical understanding of the "universe"...and for some
strange reason, fail to enter the debate on the metaphysical side, which makes
absolutely no sense, because the rules of logical reasoning, consistency and parsimony,
apply here as well, which means.....THERE IS NO DEBATE....the matter has been resolved.
@@jgalt308, you are a long-winded moron. You could have said more in a single sentence. I didn't even bother to read what you wrote, because it's just obvious trolling bait.
By far the most peaceful comment section on a video discussing religion EVER. Well done, Joe.
Nice is overrated.
Overrated is nice.
Peaceful and polite
You are all going to hell; just kidding.
@@theprogramshow8816 Overnice is rated
Joe: "So its 2016"
me rewatching this in 2021: "yes its 2016"
Wish we could go back to 2016...
Those were the good times. We simply didn't know it at the time..
Nope, it's 1984
@@farfadet999 yep, shit was great and we didn't know 4 years from then we'd be... in whatever this in
@@Farlig69 I wansnt even born then
AM I A TIME TRAVELER?
Hands down the best response to this question I have EVER heard.
Same
Wow!! This is the BEST response. I want to share this with everyone. He touches on the idea that religion is man made and faith is holy.
I'm in tears from laughing hes brilliant and his expression explained everything without saying!! Xxxxx
Agreed. I want everyone in the world to hear this
The best compromised response.
You may not believe in me, but I believe in you... and your channel is GLORIOUS! Praise be! 🙏
Ow look, it's jesus from fiverr. I recognized u bcuz of pewdiepie. Haha
You’re everywhere. lol. Praise be. 🙏
Plot twist, this really is Jesus...
Jesus Christ lol fuck u
You take psychotic to a new level
Any argument about God should first begin with both people defining ‘God.’ You’d be surprised how many people argue forever but don’t even have the same definition in mind.
@David Renton Lot of claims there...
Jake Stevens you are correct we have to both be speaking on the same terms to have a good conversation of understanding.
@David Renton Well, that is your definition. I think you have reinforced Jakes point.
@Joe Scott, I understand you were brought up in a christian household and believed in your forefather's religion and whatever people told you because you didn't know about other faiths. When things started complicated you became an atheist without looking into any other faith. But you have to look deeply into every other explanation for reality before you came to a conclusion. You have to look into every faith isms and schism with a sincere heart before you make a decision. Search for the truth by yourself and find the answer. Don't believe someone else tells you blindly. So that you can find the truth. Ask questions and try to find the answers and compare different faiths.
Do you think God created the universe just for fun and the answer can't be known? If there is God he must have sent guidance. And it's out there and it would be clear. If you search you will find it. If you follow speculations it would not lead you to the truth.
If christianity does not make sense that doesn't mean God does not exist. Look into other faiths. Look into Islam. Don't judge something by what people say or what the media says. Look into Islam and other religions with a sincere heart. Islam is the only religion with pure monotheism out there. We believe in Jesus but we see him as a prophet and not as the son of God. He didn't die for our sins. Nobody else will bear anyone else's sins. Everyone will bear their own sins. God forgives if you ask for forgiveness. No God does not need your help or your money. There is only one God. And he is not an old man in the sky. We don't believe that. We believe the creator is unlike his creation. I suggest you read the Quran
quran.com
Science absolutism is absurd. Science can't prove everything. It changes. It's based on observations. Everything in science could change if a new theory emerges.
At the end of the day what we want is the truth. Unbiased truth. So search sincerely. No matter how sweet or bitter it is.
If you are unsure about which path to take pray to your creator, Ask your creator "if you are there guide me to your religion". And study every faith with a sincere heart. If you are sincere and want to believe in truth God will guide you.
@@homelesskiller Yes God is not an old man. He does not resemble his creation. He is all-powerful and independent of his creation. There is only one God. Jesus peace be upon him is not God. He is a prophet.
@@checkmyplaylist317 No you do not. You do not understand the burden of proof. Theists declare that "some God exists". I say "I am not convinced". The burden of proof is on he who makes the claim. If there is a God, his communication skills are severely lacking.
Question for you. Why would the all-powerful, all-good Creator of the Universe choose a paedophile as his envoy on Earth?
Almost 4 years later and I get recommended this. I'm so glad RUclips suggested it.
Great perspective.
Say what you want about you tube, there are times it is truly amazing.
The universal consciousness watching this. “They know too much”
🤣😂🤣😻😻😻😻😻👼😈😈😈😈😈🌟🌟🌟 😵uh oh, the gig is up... for realzorz
Release the virus!
if the universal consciousness ever started off any thought including all of us, "they", then the universal consciousness is automatically wrong.
You know to much by knowing too much about them thinking that we know too much
@@steveswangler6373 Don't you ever talk to yourself as if you were two people? Or is it just us.....?
Joe doesn't seem "smart," he seems instead like he's taken an interest in being as wise as possible about the information he takes in and what he does with it. I think this is why I love these videos- he doesn't talk in a higher language, he just carefully unpacks things he knows everybody's curious about. He's accessible but uniquely thoughtful. I like the videos and I admire the drive I sense behind them.
Brilliantly put. I dont come away from his videos with the same “holy fuck this guys brain is operating on a level higher than mine” when i watch someone like say, fermilab or pbs spacetime. What i do come away with is a feeling of “wow this guy did a tremendous job earnestly researching this topic and breaking down what he found”. This isnt meant to be critical at all. I fuckin love the fact that joe comes across as “just another smart guy but not necessarily a hyper-genius”.
Lol... But what if the main motivator for his language is reaching a broader audience with people of different qualities and "modes of thinking" than he could have had with specialist language. At least that would apply his personal beliefs: ruclips.net/video/Z3_0O-gpeYo/видео.html
Uh, DUH.
What he's done is mistaken interest in a subject for expertise.
Yes, I agree with Katie Fincher. It takes quite a bit of moxie to talk about religion and faith (not the same) without studying either one, whether it’s from a scientific, philosophical, or theological perspective. Joe knows none of these disciplines, any one of which requires a lifetime of study before one can share something of value. But that’s social media for you. Millions of lay persons posting billions of useless, self-discovery videos, hoping to go viral and become an influencer!
The way you linked the emergence theory to the possibility that humanity may serve a higher purpose really hit me. Superb video Joe!
Thanks!
Vlasko60 that means god exists for a higher purpose as well, therefore it’s an even bigger paradox
I think you're the most genuine person I've found on youtube.
I gotta be me.
@@joescott You are best, ever at being you. Ya' gotta luv what Ya don't know. So much more to come ...
@Benjamin Kanoza The opinions of the vast majority do not outweigh the opinions of the successful few. Not all pain and suffering has a reason, but peace and happiness do. Just because the majority of people you know agree with you also doesn't mean you are right. Many people could make peace with the pain and suffering in the world, including the hypocrisy which sometimes overtakes religious communities, without resorting to a hatred of what those religions attempted to paint a picture of.
@Benjamin Kanoza Wishing for a better and less painful world is not a crime.
Agreed. He's a role model for me.
This is still a video I recommend to my friends. You are genuinely a good guy, Joe, and your videos always impress me.
Hehe🤑
Yet again it’s 5 in the morning and I’ve gone the Joe Scott rabbit hole. Again lol
TheSwiftestScout I woke up at 2AM and started watching his videos. It’s currently 5AM 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ #noragrets
Everytime I watch his vids I go into a Joe Rabbit hole too lol- Makes me wanna leave my BF and find someone smart to be with instead!!!
I feel you, man... hah
@@Paid2Help
nah.. just watch with him and get his curiosity built up. :)
Maybe build some sort of experiment together... could be fun. :)
The way I got my wife interested, is I pulled up the entire list of joe videos, and let her scroll and pick the subject she's interested in. I love Joe's delivery so much, it really doesn't matter what he's talking about... He finds the same things interesting that I do... so it's a win win. :-D
Videos like these are the best type of videos to binge watch
I don't think I've related to a person or subject so much in my life....
BLUE Gamer same
almost exactly what i'm thinking
Spoiler....Joe's married.
I absolutely annihilated the like button after watching this. It's so refreshing to see someone approach this subject the way a true scientist should - open minded yet skeptical.
You've earned a new sub. Keep up the great work!
@@blhbsit1251 wow....so mind blowing 👏
@@BenTheSkipper I think he is just saying that "annihilating the like button" is a fruitless effort. I mean... you're only gonna leave 1 like at best.
@@thenewtalkerguy496 yeah, i understand that
It is a sensational and captivating angle to the issue but this is by no means an authentic scientific approach to the issue of god(s).
The genuine scientist's approach will be to investigate the biological/anthropological/sociological reasons why humans adhere to religion (god concepts). Asking "is there a god?" as a scientific question unfortunately gives undue credibility to religious thought which unfortunately emboldens these retrograde ideas that have nothing to contribute to the evolution of the human experience.
@@zenitc The question was not "why do people believe in gods?" Therefore, such investigation would be off topic.
I know I’m 5 years late in saying this, but this video was beautifully done. I myself am a believer, and belief is honestly a choice to trust that there’s a bigger picture than what we can comprehend. There’s so much we don’t know, and there’s even more beyond that that we don’t even know we don’t know, so faith is a conscious decision. Hope you find what you’re looking for!
Joe Scott: DMT has been called the "spirit molecule"
Joe Rogan: yes.
It's entirely possible man
Gotta love the machine elves
@Snaggle Toothed & @Dahlen Olson, and this subject matter brought you two together, you compare notes and have different opinions but here you are talking about it, I see value in that.
@Snaggle Toothed I read both and just because you had a experience that you cannot 'explain logically' does not mean that it is transcendent. Just saying.
You just described how I've felt regarding religion, waaaay more eloquently than I ever could, my whole life. Thank you!
A very intelligent answer to a very personal and highly charged question.
If it were a truly "personal" question, it would not be highly charged.......and his answer
is anything but "intelligent".......and it certainly didn't match the "feedback" he predicted
so whatever he thought he was "communicating" failed to connect.
@@jgalt308 why question?"it's just his opinion
@@enrgy-xh5uq Because opinions have consequences, and in the case of shared "opinions" these can be
both dangerous and extremely harmful and for this subject there are millions of victims, and this has not
stopped, so the answer seems rather obvious, given the evidence. Now consider that an opinion that is positive
for this question, or allows a concession to a positive answer as being valid, when there is no evidence to support
the resulting belief, one wonders why you felt the need to actually ask the question.
@@jgalt308 Nup. No one was elected to be the arbiter of which opinions are "dangerous," or "harmful..." or as good for us as a One-A-Day vitamin pill. An opinion is just someone's point of view. The line is crossed only when someone harms another person.
(cf: Amendment #1, U.S. Constitution).
@@boogathon Did you UNDERSTAND the question or the answer to it? If you did, how is your answer relevant
to either the question asked, or the answer to it? Where in my answer does it suggest that an "opinion" should not
or can not be expressed? Where in the "law" does it say that "opinions" are immune from criticism or that an
"opposing opinion" can not make a case that any opinion, is dangerous and/or harmful? Where in the law, does it say
that opinions or practices which cause harm are immune from prosecution?
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT HOW YOU ANSWERED THIS QUESTION. :)
I also grew up in an evangelical setting, and had a positive experience... and then also came to having questions that didn't seem to really have good answers. But I've also felt like there is so much to the emotional/spiritual side of life, and that there must be a way to engage with it, without being irrational or just trusting feelings because feelings aren't a trustworthy source of truth or accurate knowledge.
And most of all, I LOVE how you finished with how, if there is some kind of judgement, you think it would be around if we united people, and that you want most to unite people. Absolutely amazing and well put. I feel the same way.
I know commenting on a 3 year old video is weird but I just want to say I love this video. The way your articulated and they way you found your own path is inspiring. Thank you!
Couldn't help myself either. Someone will have a bad day or something and will come back and see our accolades so it's not for nothing.
@@michaelpainter257 Object permanence is a thing on the internet too?
@@zandemen I believe you answered your question by simply asking it.
@@zandemen now I'm thinking about it more either your question or the act of me answering suggests it. Either way. 🤗
If I could give all these comments infinity thumbs up I would do it.
This is literally one of the best answers I think I've ever heard to this question or one of the best answers to someone's own personal story about why they believe the way they do cuz I can completely relate and understand why he feels the way he does and thinks the way he does
It was a brilliant view and explanation.
Me too!
Me three!
Me four
Me Fife! And yes I know it's spelled Five lol
*hey guys, it's 2016*
me: **watches in december 2019**
I got sucked in too and learned something.
Same
@@nobodyishere ditto but I believe in God I just don't think any religion has it right, we all came from something? I don't worship or go to church but I believe there is no forward or backward if the galaxy is infinite then it is also infinite backward which hurts my brain, but that quote God created light..... we'll never know, I hope i go somewhere when I die I love life and want to continue it when this body fails me
@@claytongarred3870 That's basically life's greatest mystery, death, I was actually talking with a friend about this the other day, and to me, what I believe is that when you die, you are reborn as someone else without memories of your previous life
Same
Love this episode! Even though I am a Christian, I believe there is more to it than my simple choice. I suppose I could be considered “a seeking” Christian. 👍🏼
Glad that you are open-minded and seeking truth😊. I recommend you watch One Message Foundation, Deen Show and Many Prophets One Message on youtube. 😊 I hope it helps in your journey to find the truth.
To me, it’s obvious that I can’t know for sure right now whether or not a god exists. But what I do know for sure is that NO Religion is correct. They are all so clearly wrong once you break them down
Just found your channel and am enjoying a good binge. Your videos are fantastic. Best wishes.
Thanks a bunch! Same to you. :)
Me too 😍, this guy is awesome I don't know how I never found his channel before
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same here
I think you did a good job of handling the slippery slope of this discussion in a non-offensive manner. Usually this brings out the unreasonable in people that are otherwise reasonable. I will say I view meditation different in my case, in that I view it as thinking deeply about a subject instead of thinking about nothing.
As far as this topic, I think Isaac Newton has some very interesting writings on this subject. I think as far as the bible (where some look for answers about God) goes, often people begin with assumptions without first considering whether or not it actually agrees with what's written there. Often people agree with things that people they respect tell them, without taking the time to investigate the information for themselves. Whether you are talking about the Bible or the writings of Charles Darwin, often people have formed an opinion without reading either.
Thank you for expressing how you feel. That took courage.
+BrickTsar your right
+WhoDaboss78 you're
+BrickTsar: If you view meditation as thinking deeply about something, that's cool. But it's not what meditation traditionally or fundamentally is. It is, as Joe says, "thinking about nothing", or to put it another way: taking a break from the world of thought, getting outside of the cognitive noise our brains constantly generate, and experiencing reality from another level altogether.
When you meditate by pushing all thoughts out of your mind and think about nothing, your increasing your emotional regulation becuase your not ettaching yourself to a certain thought. Just thinking clearly about nothing.
BrickTsar good comment but what you said about your view in meditation more accurately describe contemplation.
"If it wasn't religion, it would have been something else. People are looking for a justification to do the things that they want to do." - Joe Scott, 2016.
+Soroush Shirazi I know, right? Very intelligent and eloquent phrase...
+Gerzon Chon Awe... Thanks guys!
Joe Scott How do you not have more subscribers
This literally explains the cancer called ISIS
This is where I pushed Like.
I’m an atheist and always have been, unlike the rest of my family... I personally think man created God as a way to explain the unexplainable and as a way to create basic laws we should all live by (though the Ten Commandments take quite a beating). As for meditation... I practice this myself. Sadly, I have yet to have one of these enlightened experiences, but I don’t know if it’s that you’re actually communicating with a higher power, the conscience of others or if you’re just tapping into parts of your brain you never use.
I really think you handled this question quite well. You were honest in your own experience of questioning the existence of God and you’re current views on the subject and your answer didn’t seem to piss off any people of faith. In fact, I’m going to save this video, take a few notes and the next time someone is freaking out on me, telling me I’m going to Hell for being an atheist, I’ll be sure to bring some of these points up. Thanks, Joe!
I find it interesting that you say "sadly" when referring to never having had your own enlighten experience.
@@rustytoolman4912 wym?
@@rustytoolman4912 because I’m an atheist you mean? Enlightenment doesn’t necessarily mean feeling a closeness to God, just a higher state of consciousness.
Are you sure that the universe and all existence hasn't a creator (god) ?
Think of that did ever human watch something came from nothing and without a reason ?
if you think that the opposite of that can happen then you should not follow science because science stands on reason and a result of it
(My question isn't about religion but about a creator let say god as a definitiona )
Tell me please if i come to you and give you a flower and told that flower came from nothing would you believe me ?
Amazing job. This topic is like standing in the bulls eye red spot and asking publicly to start shooting at you.
Great analogy. 🍻
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My thought as well.I can only applaud this video,for various reasons;it's pretty balanced,somewhat informative & simply a pleasure to watch.✌🏼&💞
I saw this and I was really excited, and found that you view religion the same way I do!
you want to know where ''religion'' came from,.??.,watch sumerian tablet vids,viper tv..biggest secret you will never be told.
@@phantomwalker8251 link?
This Video finally cracked me.
I tried to not like you as hard as i could but i can´t anymore. You are funny and informative.
Keep doing what you are doing.
Joe for President
LOL. Why would you try as hard as you could to not like someone?
If Joe has UBI as part of his platform I'm voting for him.
haha, someone put this kid in a lab. Study it, from i wanna hate you, to Joe scott for president. xD
You tried as hard as you can to not like him? That sound odd. Care to explain?
I'd vote for Joe. Come on joe, 2024 is coming quick!!!
"Can non-conscious matter connect in such a way to create a consciousness" that is the best thing I've heard all year. Thanks Joe.
I’m of the Christian faith and I need to say that I REALLY appreciated hearing your perspective, I found it really valuable and a fresh way of looking at the topic.
hahagotcha!!!! Yo bruh chil out
My family and I endorse ancient slavic gods of our pagan culture and from what ive learned in the books my gods call for sacrifices and genocides. This doesnt make any diffirence for us tho cause it is in the human nature after all to be xenophobic and egocentric. If the christian god shows signs of a sociopathic behaviour it doesn’t mean that people who worship him will learn those negative traits from him, as they are already encoded in the human genome. Never forget that we are an aggressive and a wild specie at our core
@hahagotcha!!!! This individual came on here to thank the man for his video and your response is to tear into his faith like a toddler having a tantrum. Ill have you know slavery in biblical times was nowhere near as bad as you would like to think, most slaves WANTED to be slaves, owners cared for them, fed them, treated them with respect etc, there is nothing biblical about subjugating women its a hierarchy, transitory guilt what does this even mean are you upset God wants us to feel guilty about doing wrong?? Truly disgusting is you being a conceited jerk, its people killing people because of their belief, its people being used in human trafficking there are so many things I can think of that are much more disgusting than your view on God.
@hahagotcha!!!! Obviously, you know nothing of morality, and you are clearly immoral, since your 3rd sentence violates a Commandment when you disrespect your Creator. The Ten Commandments are the moral compass of the West. Most of the basic human evils are listed, and forbidden: envy, theft, murder, dishonoring God and your parents; don't cheat on your spouse, don't crave and covet what others have, and perhaps the most violated Commandment in modern society: never bear false witness! In other words, never lie to cause another person harm, or grief. This doesn't just apply in court, either. It applies to malicious gossip, and to casual comments about someone that are intended to cause them problems of any kind.
You seem to believe that human society doesn't evolve; that it is exactly the same now as it was 3,000 years ago.
But society evolves constantly. The Old Testament was a necessary way of living in that society; basic survival required harsh measures. But the New Testament turned over a new leaf, emphasizing love over retribution.
Looks like you got stuck in the Old Testament. Time to MovOn, amigo.
This makes me think of a thing I saw. It was where someone asked their teacher back a few centuries “why did got create atheists?” And the teachers response, summed up, was “because if they help someone it’s out of the goodness of their heart, not because some upper power compelled them to.” And also I’ve been watching your videos for a while and I love them.
So if got "God created atheists shouldn't they be grateful and worship God?
Much like a parent who has a child and the child kills the parent for greed.
The atheist who helps someone is the brother of an atheist who kills someone
said the teacher. God is such that we are not robots. Don't blame God
because there are evil people who do evil things. Yet don't thank God
because of all the beauty in the world. Have you Joel thanked God
because you can see and hear and think and feel and walk?
@@Art3615 that makes no sense
Attributing good deeds to the goodness of one's own heart is called self-righteousness, pretentiousness, self justification and arrogance. It's funny when someone says: "I have a golden heart"
@@oreste8570 attributing it to someone else is not.
@@ck58npj72 So what do we do when it comes to oneself?
Wow. Blown away from your collection of thoughts. You made one of the most controversial topics into an easily digestible video that doesnt leave a bad taste in your mouth. Subbed. 👍🏼
Woah.. that emergence theory bit about smaller entities being unaware about serving larger entities.. mind boggled... has a fractal-esque vibe too.
Okay so I just saw this from 4yrs ago, and I just want to say god or no god I think promoting universal love is a great cause. Thank you.
I thought of Trump when he talked about how we would be judged.
You're the first person that I've ever seen that has the same religious views/ideals. Thank you very much
amazingly accurate and complete. I thought I was the only one.
Look up Roger Penrose and micro tubules. I am also a believer in 'something' but I do not think we have the capacity to understand whatever 'it' is. I believe that time is subjective and that the moment of bodily death is an exponential slowdown. Something like that... or is it just eternal sleep?
@@astronomenov99 I have wondered too, if life is motion and death is lack of motion... kind of like a launching point for life.
Same
@@astronomenov99
Imagine how horrifying an eternity trapped in a violent and painful death would be.
Does the exponential slow down start when the fragments of your skull start pulverizing your brain, or when the bullet that shattered it turns your grey matter into mist?
Joe almost touches on a crucial distinction -
a) There might be a universal connection/consciousness to the universe.
b) The characters (gods) that appear in ancient religious text were made up by people
I.e. don't confuse Jehovah of the Old Testament with Universal Consciousness.
Ahh, good ol Jehovah. Envious, vindictive, genoicidal bastard, obviously created in the image of his worshipers. Don't believe in evolution, just study how these belief systems have evolved. Excepting Buddism, it seems like it's survival of the hard sell, the ones with the worst consequences for the skeptics.
@@thotslayer9914 A Gnostic is different from agnostic. The term "agnostic" actually specifically means "not gnostic". Gnostic means "relating to knowledge, especially mystical knowledge," but can be paraphrased as meaning "to know." A gnostic claims to know. An agnostic claims they they don't or can't know.
Acknowledging that we don’t know everything is a humbling.I like the simple way you present your ideas and explanations given to refute or support a theory.
This is why I prefer ignostic over agnostic or atheist.
When someone asks "do you believe in god?" it's based on what THEY think god is. So you need a pretty precise question to give any sort of answer.
If god simply is "everything", that's it. No rules, no specific history etc. Then you can likely say yes. Then god is simply word substitution for "everything". The more you break it down and specific you get, the more people will have disagreement. (Even among those in the same faith.)
So before you could possibly answer "Do you believe in god?" You have to first ask the question, what EXACTLY is god? After you answer that, I can tell you yes or no.
That is the key, yes. There are many different conceptions of god. But if someone asks you if you believe god exists, I think it can be reasonably assumed that they are asking at least about an omnipotent conscious being. That much is common enough that if a belief system rejects part of it in their conception of god, the vast majority of humanity would say they're using the word wrong. And that's how words work!
well this fuctard equates some bizarre cult with "God" - and that he was raised by cult members tells you he is likely still a cultist, just a new cult he has joined
Sirellyn Y well said Sir!
I'm ignostic agnostic if that makes sense. I often identify as agnostic but I'm probably more ignostic because I believe it is more important to define first what "god" means. I think this is the hinge that people are often missing because people often debate about the topic of religion within the prevailing religion of the location individuals grew up in. As if the local religion is true while disregarding multitudes of other religions.
Edit: wording
If you want to make the debate about agnostics and atheists it sort of depends on how you define the words and there are many different views on the subject. I would describe myself as an atheist on the basis that 'atheism' means living 'without god'.... 'a theism'. That said I also accept the fact that I might be wrong so in that sense some would say I was an agnostic. The fact that I might be wrong has no effect on my life because while I might be wrong about Jahweh I might also be wrong about Thor, Zeus, Jupiter, Ganesh, Ahura Mazda and The Invisible Pink Unicorn (BBHHH).
I love your channel. I avoided this video because I was sure it would be an atheist rant that would ruin it for me. Shame on me and my preconceived judgement. Well done, sir. Well done.
Naw, put that shame away. Life's hard enough. :)
Time
Ditto!
I've been holding out for the same reason. Now here I am, and it's by far my favorite one.
Strange I’ve been avoiding it for the same reason but opposite
I laughed harder than I should have "We're gunna talk about god!"
What's funny about that?
@@70AD-user45 Just the way he said it.
You probably didn’t laugh hard enough actually.
Right on.
When you trip with close friends or loved ones you do connect in an amazing way. I've had conversations with my best friend and brother without using words that make sense to anyone except us. It is an amazing experience.
I really like this guy, he has so much knowledge yet explains to us so easily and beautifully, one of the very few which I really enjoy listening to. Thanks Joe
i really like this guy,,im sving up for a sex change,,& glock.for the competition..
- "religious or atheist?"
- None... a seeker!
Best Answer....way better than Agnostic.... And way closer to the unknown truth!!
+hamid Shokri, Technically though, everyone is either a theist or an atheist, and everyone is either gnostic or agnostic. Theist vs atheist is a belief claim, do you BELEIVE a god(s) exist or do you NOT believe a god(s) exist? this is purely your belief on the subject. the next question is a Knowledge claim. Do you KNOW that you are right? or do you NOT know that you are right? So, that leaves 4 positions, gnostic theist, someone who believes a god(s) exist, and knows this to be true. An agnostic theist, Someone who believes a god(s) exist, but does not know this to be true. A gnostic atheist, someone who does not believe that a god(s) exist, and knows this to be true, and an agnostic atheist, someone who does not believe a god(s) exist and does not know this to be true. Every single person falls into one of these 4 categories.
or I simply do not believe at all. that makes me just an agnostic. and like he concluded it seems to imply a lack of caring.
Azrael Exlibris It is not possible to not have a belief one* [edited this word, it used to say "on"] way or the other. You may not have a strong belief, but you will still have a weak one. You either believe a god(s) exist or do not believe a god(s) exist. Thus you are either a theist or an atheist. the agnostic vs Gnostic claim is ONLY the strength of the belief. If you believe that you are 100% right, then you are a Gnostic, if you are unsure, then you are agnostic, there is no other position. Since agnostic is a claim about how sure you are, then it is IMPOSSIBLE to be an agnostic without having a belief, since again, agnostic vs Gnostic is a claim on knowledge, which is based on a claim of belief.
A simple explanation:
www.stanleycolors.com/2013/07/atheism-vs-theism-vs-agnosticism-vs-gnosticism-a-simple-guide-to-know-what-the-hell-you-are/
A more in depth explanation:
evolvingthoughts.net/2011/07/atheism-agnosticism-and-theism-4-existence-claims/
no I absolutely do not have any believes about God, just because you can't doesn't mean I can't as well. I do not believe in anything at all in such regards. that's why I call myself an agnostic, or to quote Thomas Henry Huxley :"Agnosticism is of the essence of science, whether ancient or modern. It simply means that a man shall not say he knows or believes that which he has no scientific grounds for professing to know or believe."
I deem this false necessity for believes as one of the greatest hindrances in the development of the human minds.
Azrael Exlibris by saying that you absolutely have no beliefs about god means that you know NOTHING of the argument around it. Just making sure you know that.
Also, again, Agnostic Atheism is NOT claiming god does not exist, nor is it "professing to know". It is a belief in the sense that it is perfected over the alternative of Theism, but that is only because of the applied tool of Occam's Razor which assumes the base position of Atheism since atheism requires less assertions than theism. However, it is not asserting that Theism is false. There is a lack of knowledge, however a belief is still held. [through Occam's razor.]
Also, the question of if it is possible to not have a belief on a subject is a very deep question on human psychology, and it is still unanswered. [although, the presumed answer is no.] It is similar to the question "is is possible to lack an opinion" and "is it possible to lack ANY bias".
Also, how does this hinder the development of the minds? Just because someone has a belief does NOT mean they stop considering other possibilities. Again, agnostic atheism is a good example, you are saying that you do not believe a god exist, but are uncertain of that claim. You are open to the possibility of one existing. It is essentially the position of a skeptic. Continue to question, while holding the most likely belief to be true in the mean time. Explain how lacking a belief would be better? [or even different than something like agnostic atheism? or other claims.]
Handled the subject very respectfully!!! Love that
No he was a pussy about it. Doing hiS best not to offend you religiods
@@wwxd85 Pussy is very powerful, I am offended when people use it as a term of weakness. Am I a religiod? Never heard the term before. I am very religious, & mostly don't feel offended by differing beliefs... you seem to be very offended by something, tho. Or seemed, however many years ago you wrote your comment. What am I doing, lurking in threads of the past? I'll go find a current vid to watch, now.
@@polychoron I agree the use of the word pussy is a misogenic one, also agree a bit with him. About u being "very religious", if that's what u need to go on with ur live and it doesnt afect mine then its allright. If ur religiousnes interferes with my life then we got a problem, as when laws are made based not on reason but religious or cultural beliefs (those afect me a great deal).
@@polychoron Openminded thoughts trump religion and atheism all together in my opinion. Your comments have thought and care.
I meant no mysoginy. I apologize for that. But yeah my meaning was that he was very soft on religious beliefs. This is a SCIENCE podcast. Most scientists are atheists. I'm sure Joe is too. But he didn't want to offend and of his religious viewers. Religion is irrational and is the opposite of science. People brag about having "faith" that translates to "believing something without evidence" the opposite of science. Nothing to brag about. And yeah I'm offended that Joe gave any cred to religious nonsense.
When I was becoming a Catholic about 20 years ago I had a discussion with my priest, who I considered a pretty smart guy. I asked him about evolution and he told me that there can be no conflict between religion and science and that, basically, they are both the same thing. If the evangelical types would just quit fighting it, they might find themselves enlightened by the very things you discuss in this video. Thank you Joe Scott for shining a light on this and many other important, and not so important, things.
exactly!!
Yes science does not denounce religion in a way it support is it. The best I heard it is science explains how God does things and the Bible explains what God did.
A lot of scientists are deeply religious, as many priests where the first scientis. It's the stupit people who fight.
@@SirSquallus I think you are right
This is the best justification for not simple saying "I dont believe" I've ever eard. It was the first time in decades that someone actually made me put the possibility of a Higher power on the table. Great vídeo. Subscrived and thumps up!
Tusiriakest
My thoughts exactly.
It certainly says something about our possible connections to each other and the greater universe, but is that really a 'higher power'? Anymore than saying that the sun is a 'higher power' in the sense that the sun outputs more life-giving and life-destroying energy than you ever could in a billion lifetimes?
I think it's certainly plausible (and even likely) that a power or intelligence greater than ourselves can exist, and that it's connected to us in some deep way, but even if it does, do we still call it God? And is it infallible and all powerful? Is this greater power truly infinite, and if not, does it still qualify as a god? What exists beyond that power?
Carakav Interesting questions and ones that I've been trying to answer for a while now. I think it is possible that there was life out there (not necessarily a "higher power") as consciousness must have come from somewhere initially. I think a biblical god is highly unlikely as there is zero evidence as of today of anything supernatural existing. The bible and all other religious texts were written by men to try and explain the universe and shouldn't be taken as truth. The truth is, no one knows. Abiogenesis and the theory of evolution partly explain how we came to be naturally but as Joe said consciousness is the big quandary and the gap in scientific knowledge that is yet to be filled.
Carakav you could say consciousness initiated with a spark in our very, very earliest ancestors and with evolution over billions of years as we evolved physically we evolved mentally. Being social animals needing a higher intelligence than other animals to hunt and survive our brains grew and the offshoot was that we became knowledgeable in other areas as well. It's just a question of the probability and chance of that initial spark happening. Maybe the conditions were so perfect that it did happen by chance and I'm here now writing my musings in a RUclips comment. There are approx 2 billion observed galaxies and maybe infinitely more out there so life naturally occuring on one seems improbable but not necessarily impossible.
I'm still not entirely convinced that consciousness itself is all that special. I mean, to me it almost sounds like a new flavor of the same old assertion that humans must have souls: an ill-defined and unobservable something that is both tied to flesh and yet also apart from it. All anyone can say for sure is that they are experiencing this moment, and at first it seems like this is the only real truth that you can know for sure: that you are conscious and thinking, but your experience of this moment is so fungible and dependent on long, short, and moment-to-moment memories that no one can really pin-down what an experience even is?
My go-to example is deja-vu. Everyone has experienced the sensation of reliving a moment, and for the observer it truly does feel like time travel or precognition... but it's neither of those things. It's just your brain filtering incoming data through your pathways that usually associate with memory, either in error or by accident. So you end up processing the moment both as something happening in real time, and as something that has already happened.
Imagine that you had NO memories. Not just no long term memories, but no short term memories either. Imagine that you couldn't even draw a line of affect between this very second, and the second just prior to it. Could a conscious mind exist in such a state of perfect constant disunity with cause and effect or the passage of time? I assert that it can't: your 'experience' of this moment is defined by your very ability to comprehend what's happening from moment to moment, that this moment is somehow different than the last one and worthy of regard, and to place it within the context of the passage of time. The moment you even try to regard a 'moment', that moment has already passed.
So it would seem to me that consciousness itself is just the same sort of illusion that deja-vu is: you only feel like your experiencing this moment, because your brain is wired to make you feel that way. I don't deny that I'm experiencing this moment, or thinking about these words, but at the same time things like the blue/white dress and other illusions force me to admit that even my own understanding of my experience could be in error. If I assert that I'm conscious, or that I'm experiencing an interaction with a higher power or a force beyond me, how can I honestly say that it is thus?
In the end, the easiest people to fool are ourselves... and if we truly accept that wisdom, then how can we assert that consciousness itself isn't just another trick?
My experience is similar to yours, but we walked in opposite directions. I did not grow up in a religious family at all. Granted, my family generally believed in a cosmic deity, but the concept was completely undefined and floating in mid air. There were no religious ceremonies, church services (outside of the occasional wedding or funeral) or religious training.
If asked "Do you believe in God?", my answer would have been, "Yeah... I guess so."
But once I entered the university and studied logic and then philosophy, this vague belief in something supernatural turned into a stark skepticism about everything. And although I felt no need to advance a militant atheism, I was essentially an atheist. As years went by this soft atheism grew more vocal and I began to take some pleasure in shaking the faith of those who seemed so certain, but who were anything but skilled at defending their heartfelt beliefs. It was within that context that I met Brian, a believer whose convictions ran deeper than anyone I had hitherto encountered. My general M.O. was to ask simple questions of believers and force them to think through their assumptions to find answers. And believers have this quality.... they feel compelled to provide sensible answers when asked. It is an admirable trait, if viewed from their context. If you truly believe that one must trust in God in order to have life in the truest sense, and you love those around you, it stands to reason that you would want them to trust in God. You want them to believe because it will bring them life and eventual happiness. So you try to convince them.
But Brian didn't seem to be too concerned with making me a believer. In fact, he told me point blank that it was his heartfelt conviction that he couldn't make anyone a believer by argument or evidence - something I took to mean that he had no argument or evidence. His approach was quite different. He would answer my questions in ways I was completely unfamiliar with (though I found the answers personally unsatisfying) and then he would ask even more basic questions of me, ones that were so simple that to me the answers seemed obvious. But upon trying to answer his questions I began to realize that I was really just assuming answers without reasoning through them in a way consistent with my own professed atheism.
So if I were to ask him, "If God truly does exist, then why are those who claim to believe in Him so hypocritical and behaving in ways inconsistent with what they say about God?" Interestingly enough, Brian was the least hypocritical believer I'd ever come across. So asking him the question seemed somewhat moot, at least on a personal level. He was a very good looking and charismatic young man and we worked in the restaurant business with lots of young females who would practically offer themselves up to him... and yet he maintained his integrity through such things, never once (that i know of) taking advantage of such situations. Which, interestingly enough, only made them want to be close to him all the more.
But Brian wouldn't respond by pointing out his own virtue by comparison. He would respond with a theological point about mankind being sinful and the hypocrisy of believers being no argument one way or the other concerning god's existence. It was, however, consistent with the Christian concept of the FALL - the very ugly idea that all mankind is sinful and worthy of God's wrath. And then he would do a very strange thing... he would simply ask me, "But is hypocrisy bad? Is it something that should not exist?"
Well of course it's bad! Of course the world would be better if there were no hypocrisy! And I would say as much, only to have him ask me if there were anything like atheist hypocrisy. Upon further questions, which boiled the whole thing down to its most basic component, his point became clear. Hypocrisy itself was only possible in a world where there was a very clear and concrete distinction between right and wrong, good and evil. The hypocrite is the one who claims to be solidly in favor of the good in this concrete distinction, while trying very hard to mask the fact that they are actually quite the opposite. And without a very real right and wrong that is deeper than subjective, there is absolutely nothing right or wrong, whether hypocrisy or anything else. So my question about the wrongness of hypocrisy only made sense by presupposing a moral absolute, something my atheism couldn't offer up, but his Christianity could.
This post is far too long already and I doubt anyone will want to read it. If any does and wants to know how I eventually came full circle to becoming a believer, they can ask. Suffice it to say my discussions with Brian spanned many months and culminated with his death in a tragic auto accident, which at the time threw me for a loop and only made me doubt in god's existence all the more. I loved that guy and his amazing young life and love for others. And it had a profound impact on me.
I read every word... How did you come to your belief... I am moved to understand your perspective...
Wow
Hey i read your comment, i was wondering why his death made you lean more in the direction that God most likely doesn't exist? And also since you've had so many discussions with him what do you think he would have thought if someone like him affected him the same way as he did to you died, or it was the other way around and you're the one who died and someone else came along discussing things with him, knowing him what do you think he would say about you?
@@ahmadramzy2716 My apologies but I misspoke. I should not have written that his death made me doubt in God's existence. By the time of his death I had already come to the conclusion that God must exist. However, I was not happy about this conclusion and I was by no means trusting in God's mercy in Christ.
I will respond more fully later today, wrapping up (as quickly as I can) the history of my conversion journey. Briefly, although Brian's answers and questions had created in me my first "wild doubts about doubt", what resulted up to that point was fear. Fear of death and ultimately fear of God. It is one thing to think that my existence ends at physical death. That idea is not too thrilling. But neither is it terrorizing. It may even be somewhat comforting, particularly under the circumstances of a wicked life. But if God did exist, then I was faced with the very uncomfortable notion of judgement and punishment. And here was the man I knew who trusted in God the most, suffering and dying a very painful death.
If God would allow Brian to suffer in this way, the finest man I knew, the most faithful man I knew... what did God have in store for me? So it did not make me doubt in God's existence. It only made me more sure that whatever God maybe, He was no friend of man.
More later, and thank you.
Thanks for your post, Roger. I had a similar journey whereby first my intellectual objections were answered/resolved, then my heart was transformed by the love of my Christian friends during my 2nd & 3rd years of college. So I'd take some issue with Brian's position that one cannot argue anyone into belief. As I said, a critical component of my salvation was overcoming my objections with evidence and sound arguments.
I have to admit it. There is some very wise, wise words in what this guy is saying.
matthewakian2
No those are not wise words. He is discouraged by the world and the people in it. I hope he finds his way back to God
Will Janzen
I hope you find your brain.
Will Janzen Which God?
He's your average atheist tbh. Many people have the exact same beliefs. Like me.
tyg Most atheists I know wouldn't even consider the possibility of what he says, they just don't like to be told things like "there might a possibility of a bigger conscious that makes up everything". I believe they wrongly think we know enough to even think of such a possibility. They have become what they dread and even loath, another religious bunch. One thing is the same as the other.
I've identified as atheist for half my life, and recently I've been flirting with Buddhism, so your thoughts on meditation and consciousness hit home. Thanks for this perspective and information and inspiration.
Oh yeah, lets replace science and reason with new age religious bs. You definitely look the part
@@Lyle-xc9pg you didn't watch/absorb ANY of this video, huh? Yes let's progress our understanding and reason by bringing down people with differing experiences and perspectives. I'm sure that excluding things we might not understand will help science a lot!
@@Lyle-xc9pg Meditation doesn't need to be religious or spiritual. It can be only mental. Buddhism can also be an atheistic practice and is extremely individualistic (i.e., not organized, like Judeo-Christian practices). By the way, it's disappointing to have to say this to someone who claims to champion science and reason, but a person doesn't look like their beliefs and personality, so maybe it's best not to tell someone what they believe based on their photo, yeah?
@@lefturd thank you for actually comprehending the video and my message! Unlike other people. ;) Society and the internet have enough negativity. I wish more people would be open-minded and kind enough to have discussions without flipping out or attacking each other lol. Little space is left for discourse anymore. 🤷🏻♂️
same
I'm personally a Catholic, and I quite enjoy and accept what my religion has to offer as an explanation. It's like siding with a theory that you personally agree on- based on your own reasoning.
Anyway, you did a great job making this video; You kept the topic simple and made it clear that we all have our own beliefs.
Im catholic as well and feel the same way!
You should read the Book of Mormon
SameerSlash....so you find "opinions are like assholes" a proper foundation
for the business of living? I know you worked that "reasoning" thing in
there.....it is just that you neglected to include any. ( and neither did the video. )
I don't understand pride in being Catholic when the church leaders from all levels have abused children and hidden abuse of 10s of thousands kids they were to protect. They also stole and sold babies, were complicit with Nazis, and hunted witches, Jews and Muslims. I just don't get staying in such an organization
@@garudagal23 that is not what has happened in the Church, you may have been misinformed.
I feel like you had a very respectful approach to this and I appreciate that. 👍🏼
+Wild Mowle I believe in pocket dragons. Are you going to be as generous to me?
Brah, I love Pokemon
I died in hospital a few years ago. Medical science brought me back. Not prayers. Had the whole travelling down the tunnel to the light, and came back. No saints or saviours or demons. The only other comment I can make is that I did hear my family members talking while I was in a coma after that experience. No answers, just more questions.
Damn dude.
Joe Scott- I know, right?!? After that adventure every morning I wake up a say a Homer Simpson quote.
"Woo-hoo!!"
It's not Marcus Arelius or Descartes, but I like it.
I also died (2006) from pneumonia, but was brought back to life. My experience for it was the same as yours.
Brian Garrow Maybe because noone prayed for you.
@@wolfy4734 that's a terrible statement with no substantial reasoning or ground.
Maybe his family friends etc. "prayed" for him.
The transition from personal experience to broader ideas really struck me, amazing.
Beautifully put. Honestly. That was engaging and concise without putting people off, while still offering logical and none abrasive ideas for the alternative. You're extremely good about that sir.
Plus, I like your over all message. Smashing vid Joe
Yo calm down stop yelling!🥴
There might very well be a God. But I very highly doubt this entity is anything like what it is described in ancient books that have been translated over and over for thousands of years.
And that's the problem. Of course there isn't a "god" if your conception of him is a man in the sky on a golden throne.
God is surely not a man. And hes not a concept either. My understanding of God is a concept though. The concept of something that I am unable to understand. And surely there are things about the universe that my limited intelligence cannot grasp.
"Does God exist?" "Depends what you call God"
God is a computer
Yes I say the same thing to ppl who ask my opinion. Then I ask them “What is a God?” While I’m not a “believer” I see religion as more an attempt to examine the Human Condition and that pesky question “Why”. Also Humans LOVE stories/Narratives one could argue its our Defining Trait and has driven much of our progress the stories we tell ourselves (fact or fiction “Truth” can be found in both for given value of “Truth” in context)
Most gods were invented because some people have a need for a god. Not that there is a god.
@@pipsantos6278 Maybe more to the point: most gods were invented because people have a need to try and explanain the universe. Why does it exist? Was there a beginning? Is there an end? Or even, What is lightning? And so on.
If there's no end, then there cannot be a beginning - unless you believe we got infinitely lucky, and appeared right at the very start of everything. Same thing with no beginning; if that's the case, there can't be an end - unless you believe we appeared right at the tail end of everything, at the end of eternity.
But that doesn't make any sense, either. Infinite in one direction implies infinite in both directions.
The only concept that makes sense (to me; YMMV), is that the universe is infinite in extent, and infinite in time. And if there's a Creator, it is above everything (including time and distance) Then _ipso facto_ we can't know or understand _anything_ about such a Creator.
Infinity applies to extent in more ways than just temporal. Looking at the countless galaxies, it would seem that what we're observing is one level of a hierarchy. There's no apparent structure, but that may be because we can't see enough of it.
The universe's extent is probably infinite, as well as time being infinite. Who's to say? But every time people have guessed at the extent of the universe, they've thought too small. Only a century ago, it was believed that the Milky Way galaxy was the entire universe.
If the universe is _not_ infinite, then what's beyond it? And what came before? What comes after? And if there's a Creator of everything, why would we be observing "everything" from our finite perspective? Maybe this universe is only an infinitesimally small part of an infinitely larger, more complex creation.
If there's a Creator, why would all creation be limited to this particular universe, or even multi-verse?
That wouldn't be any fun!
You know, Carl Jung had this idea that he called "synchronicity" and it was concerning coincidences that are so preposterous they couldn't really be coincidence. The explanation was what he called the cosmic unconscious, which is a pool of awareness that everybody can tap into, but few actually consciously do. Not surprisingly, he kept all this to himself, until it was no longer career-threatening.
Jung had many great ideas he kept quiet for too long..
If one wants to dive into the spiritual pool, Jung is the guy. He wrote "Memories Dreams and Reflections". Highly recommend it, especially for dreamers.
CG Jung had had a near death experience at a really young age(not sur about young age): this is what changed his life and made him a man not only with a head but also a heart and feelings.
Great video Joe! My journey of 65 has been across several Christian religions and Hinduism. Now I just practice as spiritual a life as possible and make it my "religion" to practice what I preach. I truly believe that "my" journey was predestined just for me. I've been extremely blessed to have found my calling in life as I have practiced being a substance abuse counselor for 35 years. I'm happily married with two wonderful daughters and happier as I've ever been in my life. I am humbled by this and truly believe I have successfully followed my predestined path in life.
With respect to God, Joe is properly dressed for this video. He's wearing a tie.
Huh, look at that. Someone who likes science but doesn't immediately dismiss the idea of god and scoff at people who believe. Kudos to you, sir.
@Phoebe Reid Most atheists that I know of don't really dismiss the idea of a God. We dismiss the Gods of organized religions because they all resemble figments of the imaginations of primitive men rather than enlightened beings. That said, I'm open to any God if he/she/they/whatever are willing to reveal themselves to me. Didn't happen so far.
@Phoebe Reid That's not really true. Agnostic refers to knowledge, while atheist refers to belief. That means these two things are combinable, resulting in four combinations:
Gnosic theist: A theist who is 100% certain there is a God
Agnostic theist: A theist who doesn't know for sure that there is a God, but believes anyway
Gnostic atheist: An atheist who is 100% certain there isn't a God
And finally, the category most atheists fall into:
Agnostic atheist: An atheist who doesn't know for sure if there is or isn't a God, but doesn't believe.
Flerfbuster but I’m not in any of these groups, I’m 100% certain that there’s no god but if science would prove gods existence then I will be religious
@@flerfbuster7993 Except "agnostic" doesn't mean "I don't know" nor does Gnostic mean " I Know",
because each must be clarified by the "continuation of ".......the addition of "because"......and
then the reasons that result in the claim "knowing" or "not knowing".....
Theism and atheism are a bit different, in that the latter is defined by the former, and then whatever the definitive
elements that actually comprise the former, are rejected by the latter.
Finally, your list is not complete, in that there is a further "permutation" that needs to added and considered,
which is that which is available by the examination of the evidence available of that which exists, in combination
with the possible explanations for the cause of that existence, and then the logical examination of the "effects"
of these combinations, as a determinant in one's behavior in response to the fact of one's existence.
This final permutation, yields both the simplest possible explanation for the existence of this universe, in
that it requires the least number of assumptions while remaining consistent with ALL the available evidence,
and while slightly more satisfying than the second possibility, in terms of "a purpose for it all", there is no
distinctive difference in the "effects", as a determinant for the behavior required by the "fact" of one's
existence.
And the math here is "interesting" also.
I appreciate you sharing the evolution of your beliefs. To be open minded and ponder all these questions are the very traits that make us human.
Joe, the realest RUclipsr out there. I went on a similar journey. Keep it real, man!!
I'm a seeker too, and you are a beautiful human being dude! Thank you for being one of the good guys. Mahalo
First time hearing about the term seeker but it resonates with me a lot better than agnostic does.
This was probably the best video I've seen on this subject
Yup. I can definitely see your viewpoint. But I slightly disagree with it. There's other videos that highlight the problems with the Bible.
The problems with those is that no matter how you say it. It's going to be offensive to someone. Even if there are no question absolutely provable problems with the Bible. That is still seen as an attack on religion.
But this one was about as non offensive as you can possible frame Agnostic Atheism. Cause that's what he's describing here.
There could be a god. We don't know. But for now it's best to just do our best to be good people. And keep on asking questions.
Rosee Civa wow I have seen so many better videos just check out cosmic skeptic’s channel and mr atheists.
@@Myke_thehuman whether or not god exists has got nothing to do with the bible.
@@xthe_moonx I think I see what you're trying to say. But it's a bit of a stretch to say that the Bible and god have nothing to do with each other.
Yes, agreed. Kinda answers a lot of questions and made me feel better about someday facing the end.
I’m now going to go quantum entangle myself with some soup.
@Joe Scott
I truly enjoyed your video about God. I am a Christian. The way you handled this topic is very impressive, unoffensive, and with such honesty and compassion on your part. I do pray you will eventually find what you "seek". With your love for science and people, I know you would truly enjoy eternity talking with the creator of all these magnificent things you love and even better, experiencing them first-hand.
Since you are a person who knows the teachings about God, I would love to hear some of your ideas about the Trinity -- one God, three distinct persons, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. The subject is a tripping-point for not only Christians but many other groups too. I have an idea about how the Trinity could be possible but would love to hear your thoughts.
Thank you for your videos.
Yes this please 😁
One thing some people forget to do is to separate God from religions. Religion is really a specific interpretation of what God should be and force people to behave / follow a specific doctrine which are man-made by definition. At the end of it, believing in God or not is not the issue. The issue is what people are doing with this believe and how they are trying to force it on people. It is a heavy topic and you handle it beautifully
Hey Joe, you did a really good job with this difficult question. Most of all, there are ideas of God outside the bible. I believe in God and in Nature and I don't differentiate between the two and totally agree that we have to get beyond fundamental ideas and seek.
Great explanation sir.
+Kurian Binu Thank you!
+Joe Scott thanks for the thought. very enlightening
very wise, sums up most of my thoughts, I just found your channel and am excited to watch more of your vids
Two comments: (1) I was raised an Episcopalian and we are generally excellent tippers. 😏 (2) As a born-again atheist, I try to live my life from a rule I learned in Boy Scouts: Always leave your campsite better than you found it.
I love this comment! Awesome way to think.
I like this. Obviously hoping that my vaction will proceed after this overnighter in the woods, but as the worst possible outcome is nothingness at least I won't have to experience it? Blblbl
1. Joe just made/proved anyone who claims to know the truth on whether there is God or not, basically a shallow thinker, and your claiming atheist.. then commenting about a denomination of Jews to be good tippers 😅 all while using a boy scout slogan as a comment to pass off wisedom that would challenge ANY part of this video? I wish I was on your level of greatness
Trying to wade through the contradiction and find a point in this comment.
Ssshhh.. just watch the movie..
I realize I'm 5 years late to this video, but I love and agree with everything said in this video. I stand in the same position of being a "seeker", and to be able to relate to this guy, who I love watching and who I respect so much, its great!
This really hit home though I like the term "seeker"
I have used the term "student of nature" to describe myself. Like seeker, it implies humility, but it's more directive about what I will and won't accept in my approach.
This is an excellent video, and I really appreciate you tackling this with so much respect. The book, Confessions, by St. Augustine tackles a lot of the same questions mentioned in this video. As far as why we should serve God if he's all powerful goes, Augustine comes to the conclusion that while God has little to gain from his servitude he himself has everything to gain from serving God. This is just one example of the questions Augustine asks God as a new and struggling Christian which makes it an excellent read for those who have fallen from the faith, and even those who continue to believe. Once again, Joe, this was an incredibly well executed video with strong points and a respectful attitude. Pax tibi!
I just started getting into St. Augustine's work just a few days ago. As a believer who still wants to ask questions, he's quickly become one of my favorite ancient authors.
While the science in his writings doesn't exactly hold up (i.e. only 4 elements and such), the philosophy and theology hold a weight that I've only seen a handful of modern authors manage to replicate.
So now all you have to do it figure out which god is real and then gain from serving..
Unfortunately this is just a prettied up version of pascals wager and still suffers from the same problems. It presupposes a given religion is correct and every other one is not.
2019... still one of my favorite videos
Oh my god. I find myself to identify as "agnostic" but I've got to say that O Brother, Where Art Thou is amongst my favorite movies. It's amazing hearing your connection to this movie because I've been drawn to it since I was a young child (5 or so years old)
Living is a near-death experience.
This is one of the best responses I have ever heard to this question.
Thank you for your honesty and insight.
i never thought could listen to someone that could blow my mind... i came across your page during this crises... because.. i have had the time to do it now... i have watched many of them, its hard to make my mind be blown.. i think about all the things you discuss... you are completely genuine and i am probably going to watch all these videos while i am stuck at home
Me too.
If you want your mind blown try dmt.
"Every electron in the universe could be the same electron". There is a similar belief: The Singular Squirrel Theory, which says that there is actually only one squirrel in the whole world. It is a very powerful being that has abilities like shapeshifting, near-infinite speed, the ability to be at many places at once, etc.
owhh.. sounds interesting. I should read more about this
Thanks by the way
Love you man. 😥 I know you'll never read this, but don't forget that the answer to the entire question is...Love.
Never before have I even almost been convinced of a god. But maybe
Maybe so, maybe not. Who knows.
Well, it is a very comforting thought.
I liken it to being a child. Someone is looking after me.
But I grew up. It's just me. I have to look after myself.
Vlasko60 the fact is you say something saying he dosent exist oh because their is evidence of science but the Big Bang has so much flaws and it can never happen whether it’s were In a simulation or some other thing something just dosent make itself out OF NOTHING NOTHING expect god
Ashley Bennett I have concluded the best answer is God, or as the Bible says “Yehovah” is a pre-existing being, the source of all energy, who created the eternal laws of physics thus allowing the universe to come into existence. If such a creator does not exist where did the energy and the eternal laws of physics come from?
What about life? No one has ever been able to demonstrate the validity of abiogenisis and the answer to the question “what makes something alive?” is still a scientific mystery. The notion that life only comes from life has been demonstrated over and over for more than 100 years.
Elementary logic tells us every house has a maker... Questions?
Vlasko60 I have concluded the best answer is God, or as the Bible says “Yehovah” is a pre-existing being, the source of all energy, who created the eternal laws of physics thus allowing the universe to come into existence. If such a creator does not exist where did the energy and the eternal laws of physics come from?
What about life? No one has ever been able to demonstrate the validity of abiogenisis and the answer to the question “what makes something alive?” is still a scientific mystery. The notion that life only comes from life has been demonstrated over and over for more than 100 years.
Elementary logic tells us every house has a maker... Questions?
I must say i loved it when you said you are like a seeker...."if god exists he probably is to big for our small brains to grasp"
+Draco Dragonsoul So why did he make us? And it "too" not "to".
"So why did he make us?"Well first of with that much power(i do believe in god btw)what else is there too do, but that is just it. God has seen our end and our beginning he is the whole of time past and future. That is what we as "Human" will never fully comprehend no matter how much we try. .....We cannot know God's motivations, but we "Seek" answers :)
Draco Dragonsoul If he can see the future then what's the point? And if he made us good/bad again what is the point? Why did he kill all the babies in the womb who could never had done anything evil, ie the flood. And it would mean they would need to be incestuous to continue the human race, just as Adam and Eve did.
It is like i said God is beyond mankind. We cannot understand his reason. God is past present and future...why would he destroy humanity if he has already done that"in the future". The question that i should be asking is did you not understand my comment? Or did you get upset from the"our small brains cannot grasp" part. We don't know Gods reasons and we seek them, but we probably will never find them. Perhaps God simply made us and left us on our own or perhaps he created souls to accompany him and presented us with good and evil to see who are worthy......The point of my comment is "WE DON'T KNOW" so we SEEK.
i dont seek bruh.
Although I'm watching this five years after it's posting, I should mention something I said to my step-daughter when she was deciding about which church to attend; I said, "If you're going to believe in God, you have to do so without question. Once you question, you cease to have faith and without faith you cannot believe."
Bless this man. He has ignited my passion for learning when it had fizzled out before.
I LOVE HOW YOU EXPLAINED IT EVEN THOUGH IM CHRISTIAN
You say it like “this is what I think” not I know this
Edit: Oh my.. I started World War 4 in the reply section.
Larry Mooney i think god doesn't exist.
I KNOW if jesus exists he is a racist who preached division rewarded ignorance and stands to torture those who exercise free speech and free expression by fire for non belief. The father ordered the rape murder slavery and abortion of children.
Well i mean according to the Bible lol.
@@yzagui007 I would like to know the version of the Bible you read. Because that does not exist in any version I've read so far.
Isaac Burabari sounds like you haven’t read the Bible.
yzagui007 ima pray for you (also you should read the Bible) And how is he racist etc.
yzagui007 ABORTOIN! If he rose people from the dead why would he kill others 😆
I love this video. It was just as good this time - I’ve watched it before. My religious experiences and evolution in my thinking is virtually just like yours. It is so nice to hear that someone else has traveled this path and that I am not alone. My thinking is not accepted by my religious family and others who still have the same beliefs, without question. That can be a lonely feeling. I think questions are good - not only good - they are very important. And I believe it is good and even wholesome to always ask questions. The shutting down of questions feels very wrong to me.
Dont think every relegions are the same if you find one does not make any sense. Look other faiths and relgion. Truth can be known. Dont judge a religion by its people. Look at its teachings. I would really suggest you to look into Islam because its not what the media says. Be open minded and sincere and look for the truth. Dont just follow speculations to satisfy our minds because it wont lead to truth.
I suggest you to read the Quran
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Keep on thinking for yourself Stacy. Don't drink anyone else's KoolAid.
@@checkmyplaylist317 Statistically speaking most people are wrong about religion. Maybe everyone is but definitely most people. Why would I play the game when I know I'm likely to lose? I'd rather spend my life working on improving the lives of others rather then believing a religious system that's probably wrong anyways. If you want to believe in unicorns I won't stop you but, I won't take your claims seriously either unless you present evidence.
@@solsystem1342 Don’t be silly. We don’t say I am not going to take care of my health because I am going to die anyway? Or I am going to get sick anyway. Or If we have an exam, we don't say I am not going to study because I am going to fail anyway or I am not sure I will live to see tomorrow and enjoy the present.
Finding answers to the fundamental questions such as What is the purpose of life? Why did our creator create us? Are the most important thing for every human being. We spend more time searching for what do we want to eat for lunch or which phone we are going to buy next etc. These are distractions from the main questions in our life. If we wake up in an aeroplane with no idea how we got there, the first question you ask is going to be,
How did get here and where I am going? Who put me here? etc. Instead, we don’t enjoy the view outside and luxuries and distract ourselves from the main question. We will always have these questions in our minds. Just because one religion is false doesn’t mean all of them are the same, or God doesn’t exist.
If our creator created us with intellect and reasoning it’s obvious he will also send us guidance and truth. It will also be clear and distinct from falsehood. It’s our job to search for the truth. It’s simple and clear.
If we look at all religions in one way or another, they depict our creator as creations such as humans, idols, creatures etc. The creator cannot be his creation. The only religion which believes there is only one creator with no partners is Islam. This was what Abraham, Jesus, Moses, and Muhammed Peace be upon them all, preached. Nobody is born believing in Jesus or Budha or idols. Everyone is born believing a creator but later their parents and environment change their faith. Sadly people judge Islam by how the media portrays it and they don’t look into it.
If you are sincere and search for the truth and want to know the truth, your creator will guide you .
Unicorns are horses with a horn that comes from human imagination. God is the creator of everything and the one who everyone is born believing in. You are mixing human imagination with the creator. What do you need as evidence? It’s in ourselves. I recommend you a channel named Many Prophets One Message on youtube. Do your own research and search for the truth.
@@checkmyplaylist317 You make a video about thinking, asking questions, looking for truth, forming a better society, joining people without hatred or fear, then boom, a muslim joins the chat
Very well articulated Joe. When blind faith is set aside without fear of being punished for questioning, the flood of questions is enormous.
A long time ago I was a heroin addict ....and one time after I did my dose I went out on a bus ... I clearly remember feeling exactly like this ...that people say they see God when they're close to death. I remember seeing the most beautiful colors but I couldn't tell you what colors they were ....they were every color at the same time and a new color that's never been seen before. I saw geometric shapes. And I felt as if there was a being that loved me and that I was in love with the universe it was so weird..... and then there was this lady on the bus that I guess she saw what was going on ......and she woke me up she said I was turning blue ....she was an old lady. And I was so overwhelmed I started crying... and I talk to this lady for about an hour .....about God.... I swear to God I saw and communicated with God. Now I to this day don't believe in God. but at that point in my life it seemed real...
i could talk to you on this & another subject,both,are real but not related.im still trying to work it out,,there has to be a connection somewhere.i know exactly where we came from,thats easy,but,then theres this ''spirit'',existance along with it.maybe it is a reincarnation thing,spirit world,other world,i dont know. worse thing is,you only find this truth when your dead.bit of a bummer . o.k.,about ''god'',,not real,not in bible/mans world any way..the bible is a mixed up record of our history ,re written by man to control man & keep the truth hidden. heres the facts..we were ''made in there image''..sound familiar.?. rib of adam,was actually dna,to make a mate..adam,was not,his name..the garden of eden,was what he was given to live in,or humans,as slaves,to our creators.the snake,was an alien woman, as our creators were. i believe what is written in sumerian stone tablets,,not,,the paper of the bible..3 things to watch IF,your still here,,1 revalation of the pyramids, 2 viper tv on sumerian tablets, 3 ddtv on same..be safe be healthy,be happy..
The memory is always there and some day it will become very important to you, Gods love fills the universe.
WOW ! Joe, when are you forming a church I want to join ! But seriously that was one of the best discussions on spirituality (I guess one could call it) I've ever heard. Glad you didn't open a can of worms and start quoting the bible.
It's always a shame to see people do bad "in the name of God" and push away good people from Him.
Awesome video
I think this is the most amazing argument from a "non-believer" I've ever heard, and for that, I have lots of respect for you. I feel like you're the type of person I'd love to have a friendly debate over for this type of stuff. I love having these conversations with friends because it allows me to see how others think from a passive and inviting perspective.
go on,have a debate with me,you will lose....if your religious,,you,ve lost allready..
@@phantomwalker8251 thats not a healthy mindset going into a debate. If you have that mindset, there is simply no chance of you seeing you may be wrong. Yes I might be wrong too but if I'm right, I'll never be able to convince you because in your mind, you've already won. The conversation would be pointless
@@phantomwalker8251 but, I'd like to offer you a wager. The way I see it, if I'm right and God is real, at the end of it all, I either go to Heaven or Hell. Seeing as I believe that Jesus Christ is my savior and that he died for my sins... if he IS actually real, I would get into Heaven. Now if you're right and there is no God, I still won't care if I die because there wouldn't be a me to have feelings on the matter anymore... but what happens to you if you die? Would you rather place your bets on God being a lie and living your life the way you want, only for Him to be real and wind up in Hell... or live your life as though He's real only to not suffer anything because there's nothing after life?
@@Bambuskus505 But that kind of thinking only offers two options: Jesus is real or not-but there is MORE than one choice when it comes to God. Hundreds more. What if YOU are wrong about the God you’ve chosen?
@@flip2trip well there are only a small amount of religions that can actually historically prove that their representatives actually existed. Jesus has been 100% confirmed to have been a real person, Mohamed, The Buddha, and a few others whos names leave me at the moment. these are all people who actually have been proven to be real. however, it's also historically proven that Jesus **WAS** crucified on that cross, and that he **WAS** killed on that same day, and it's also been both historically and scientifically proven that Jesus was in fact risen from the dead 3 days later. this can be proven by countless testimonies that have been found by archaeologists throughout the years. There were even testimonies from the guards who were supposed to be watchings Jesus's grave at the time. But thats not all. during the years after, hundreds of thousands of christians were being killed off and slaughtered for their faith, people who had met Jesus for themselves, and proclaimed he was in fact, God. The Messiah. The one that they had been waiting for since the beginning of time. I guarantee you these people would not have been willing to die for their faith if they didn't actually believe God was real.
1:53 O Brother Where Art Thou is one of my all time favorite movies. The soundtrack strikes a sentimental chord with me to, pun intended, I listen to it a lot when I run.
No sin deserves an infinite punishment. Think about it.
no sin is bigger than his mercy. but his mercy is useless if you don't want it.
Whyyyyy dont you have more subscribers... it doesn't make any sense.
He is not a real scientist. He has one college degree in film, radio, and TV. There are better you tubers out there who have more credibility.
As an accomplished (i.e., "real") scientist myself, I personally find his ill-informed commentary to be irritating. Being a real scientist is hard work. It is required for erudition that is necessary for the pursuit and communication of truth.
scientist does not pursue truth but fact, and the logic of this world. truth unlike objective fact, can change due to many things such as memory or from what angle you view something. objectivity, and logic is constant like math. truth is inconsistent.
Enshala Swan how is it ill-informed?
_"scientist does not pursue truth but fact, and the logic of this world. truth unlike objective fact, can change due to many things such as memory or from what angle you view something. objectivity, and logic is constant like math. truth is inconsistent."_
...never heard such total absolute bullshit in my entire life...
Because he has no boobs
This was amazing. I really appreciate the open minded response to a difficult question, the admittance that the answer may be unknowable and the presentation of theories which propose science and faith may not be mutually exclusive. Well done.
You are the smartest, most genuine, neutral and also funny RUclipsr I've seen, I wish everyone was like you, great job!
Good thing I subscribed to this channel! 😄
Yes a very bright young man. Very eloquently said. The world needs so many more people like you Joe
"God is in Coffee" - Amen Brother!!!
Joe Scott, I understand you were brought up in a christian household. And you believed in your forefather's religion and whatever people told you. You didn't know much about religion and you followed that without knowledge. So when things started complicated you became an atheist without looking into any other faith. You have to look at every other possibilities before you come to a conclusion. Learn every faith isms and schisms with sincere heart before you conclude the answer. Search for the truth by yourself and find the answer. Don't believe someone else tells you blindly. So that you can find the truth. Ask questions. Compare different faiths and worldviews.
Do you think God created the universe just for fun and the answer can't be known? If there is God it's obvious that he will send us a message. And it's out there and it would be clear. If you search you will find it. If you follow speculations it would not lead you to the truth.
If christianty does not make sense that doesn't mean God does not exist. Look into other faiths. Look into Islam. Don't judge something by what people say or what the media says. Look into Islam and other religions with a sincere heart. Islam is the only religion with pure monotheism out there. We believe in Jesus, but we see him as a prophet and not as the son of God. He didn't die for our sins. Nobody else will bear other people's sins. Everyone will bear their own sins. God forgives if you ask forgiveness for your sins. No, God does not need your help or your money. There is only one God. And he is not an old man in the sky. We don't believe that. We believe the creator is unlike his creation. I suggest you read the Quran
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Science absolutism is absurd. Science can't prove everything. It changes. It's based on observations. Everything in science could change if a new theory emerges.
At the end of the day what we want is the truth. Unbiased truth. So search sincerely. No matter how sweet or bitter it is.
If you are unsure about which path to take, pray to your creator, Ask your creator "if you are there guide me to your religion". And study every faith with a sincere heart. If you are sincere and want to believe in truth God will guide you.
@@checkmyplaylist317 why did you write all that...
@@noname.___ The reality is most of the people leave their religion if it doesn't make sense to them. They just become an atheist denying God altogether. They generalize and categorize every religion as irrational based on the previous religion they believed in. Which is not true at all.
Joe is smart guy but he had the same problem with christanity. And some of them were emotional reasons. He ended up denying God altogether without releasing there are other faiths which do not have the same concept of God. Now he believes in some spooky theory which he himself admits that he is not really sure. Nowadays people have a stereotype that if somebody believes in God they are stupid. You can believe whatever crazy theory you want as long as you deny God. Scientism and materialism is the cause of this problem. People don't realise there is an opposite side to the argument. I feel sad when people deny God and lost their way not having a purpose. When they wander around believe in some theory not knowing the truth. Divine reality.
Here Joe realises the element of spirituality in us so he tries to believe that we all are working for something big. Humans are spiritual animals. People are leaving atheism because they see this problem within themselves. Some mainstream atheists realised this problem and came up with spiritual atheism. But other atheists disagree with that because there is no such thing as spiritual atheism its just ridiculous. Atheism leads to existential nihilism. There is no meaning to life. People when they are young when they cant make sense of the religion they brought up with they just become an atheist. Sometimes its them following whats the hype at that time. It seems to them being an atheist make them intellectually superior. Most atheists are sheeps. They dont know what they are talking about. When people hit their 30s or when they really start asking questions when they experience existential nihilism the problem kicks in. They see atheism doesn't have answers to these questions and they leave atheism. We dont even know we would even live to see our 30s. We might die today. If we dont ask these questions today we would get a second chance for asking these questions.
The problem with emergence theory is it creates an infinite regress and we don't exist in the first place. If we are working towards something bigger than us we could ask what does that work towards and what does that work towards and so on. And we will not be here. So there has to be an uncreated independent self suffiecnt creator. Otherwise we wouldn't exist.
What do you believe in?
@@checkmyplaylist317 dude im not reading a whole ass book, you could have easily answered my question in like 3 sentences.
@@noname.___ Don't be lazy bro. Things which need explanation must be explained.
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As an atheist, I some times feel that people who do believe in god find it odd that atheists exist. I just want to say that please respect each person's beliefs, i have experienced harsh events where my friends have said that you only believe in big bang with a joking tone which wasnt nice. If i respect your belief, u should do the same to me, either way u should do this!
I think most people have the wrong idea about the big bang so it's easy to dismiss for some. They think that a small collection of matter grew into this gigantic universe but that's because of the failings of science communicators. Only in the last few years they started to add more context to the big bang theory in the mainstream. About how equilibrium in quantum jitters creates repulsive gravity in an already existing universe for example. It's not a magic or unexplainable event, it's allowed in the theory of relativity.
People just need to be kinder to each other in general. I for instance believe that a belief in "god" and a belief in the big bang aren't conflicting.
Sounds to me like you need different friends. Just a thought.