Dealgan Spindle Review
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and techniques. Have you watched any of Lois Swales videos on RUclips?
We probably need to remember that historically, spinning was a necessary occupation and with it came repetitive motion injuries and well as various injuries from other life activities and age. This led to people adopting various techniques and postures to make it possible to continue with the daily activities of life.
I have found as I get older, and due to back, neck & shoulder injuries, my posture and technique in how I spin has changed a bit. On those days of pre-storm aches, I tend to keep my spindle closer with a shorter drop. I have also adopted the leg roll maneuver and can now use it with either hand. I even did drop spinning in a carriage throughout a parade recently, much to the delight and amazement of spectators.
Since our ancestors didn't have videos, and spinning was not really classified as a unique and interesting/entertaining activity, we'll probably never know exactly the hows and ways of spinning in the past. But, we can continue to develop our own techniques and keep the interest alive.
I went to a historical event in another state in 2017, and was thrilled to see a woman using a Great Wheel. Since the event staff had placed her off to the side, out of the main flow, she didn't have a lot of people around - Until... She allowed me and another lady to try our hands at using her Great Wheel. Oh what a wonderful device. Very meditative, much like my drop spindles for me. Suddenly, we had 2 families enraptured, and the daughters were wanting to know where to find such a unique device. One of the sons was trying to find the gears and motor that made it spin LOL - he couldn't understand how it worked without them.
Anyway, all we can do is the best that we can do. Find as much info as you can (there are several on RUclips and papers on Academia - for free). Oh, and enjoy! If you're having fun, others will want to play as well.
Interesting.
There are photographs circa 1930s [taken by Margaret Campbell of Canna] in the Outer Hebrides, Scotland , of a crofter lady, using a dealgan spindle to spin singles, from a distaff of wool, sitting inside her tiny “black” house. A dealgan was still used till 1996 in the Isle of Harris, to ply singles for sock knitting.
I just came here to comment this, we also have documentation of spinning singles and plying on the dealgan in Canada, Nova Scotia, PEI, and New Brunswick!
Admittedly, I've heard that just letting the yarn sit on the bobbin/spindle for 24 hours will set it. For that reason, that's what I do. I then wash it (just in case that's not the case, the yarn is set, plus it's clean), and then will wind it off and use it for what I need.
Theoretically, you are correct. Technically, when knitting, a person is supposed to wash the final garment, and, of course, the cloth that was woven is washed as well.
I don't know why I do what I do. Technically, the projects should work without officially washing the yarn beforehand to set the yarn. After all, it's getting set when you do the official project.
I believe part of it is preference of what people prefer to do. Any way should work.
Thank you for all the wonderful videos!
First I’m from America. I understand calling it “American” spinning. The more I’ve learned, the more I’m getting away from the norms of language and style here. I would love to try medieval spinning. Been looking at them. To your question. When I started, I set all my yarn as that was what I was told. Even hung weight on it as. I was told to. Then that changed and you shouldn’t hang weight on it. And then advice became different again. I like the idea of going back and figuring out what the past did as opposed to what modern spinners think we should do. The modern is always changing. At least here. I must admit I seldom set the twist anymore when finished spinning. For what I do it doesn’t seem to matter either. (Crochet and pin looms) I understand reasons to do it but seldom do it. Doesn’t seem to make a lot of difference in what I do. I do wonder about using singles just off the Spindle in weaving on a loom. Something to try. I would think though if they were very active/alive that it could play with the weave but then could be something interesting could happen. You would probably need a hard press each time you washed it to get them under control. Needs experimenting with, though I’m sure someone out there has done it.
Setting the twist" is a myth, perpetrated by the unknowledged trying to teach someone that knows even less! It is often done by the inexperienced, and as you say, not necessary. However, it does tame the yarn and makes it easier to work with! If weaving or knitting, it has all the fight taken out of it, and then 'behaves' but has lost the elasticity and the bounce of a well-spun yarn. But when you don't know good from bad, does it really matter?
Ancient Egyptian murals (idk the correct word) show spinning and plying done with a top whorl spindle in a drop style, which you are referring to as American. It is an ancient style of spinning and predates the European Middle Ages and the European colonised “Americas”. A quick fact check on the internet will yield many images showing the top whorl spindle being dangled. Could this drop style have come to Britain over the Moors arrival to Ireland? It could have been a purely independent variation of spindle spinning. Your backdrop and clothes make for a beautiful accompaniment to your exhibition. Thank you for your demo.
Is much easier on body to spin on a drop spindle by drafting horizontally and not straight up.
Dealgan is used standing. The women used to walk with them.
Try standing up when you are spinning. Also, if you are going to review something, you might want to be proficient with it.
Oh, i don't know. She mentions that she basically referred to one source, who mentioned using it for plying. Interesting, because that was new info to me. She also tried using it with a distaff, which made tons of sense, and I had not seen anyone mention. (Of course, few people seem to bother mentioning distaff use, outside of flax, and yet, there were distaffs in use.) Also, she admitted up front that she was not an expert, so that was truth in advertising... and she did better than I did on my first attempts with one.
The reason your spindle only spins for a short time is because it was made that way! The weight is in the centre of the spindle; therefore, it spins fast but for a short time. With a larger whorl, with the weight further away from the centre, it will spin for a very long time, but not very fast. This you should know already -- if you are a spindle spinner. Because of the way it was built, it would appear that this might have been used more for plying, which can be done relatively quickly, rather than spinning singles, which would require much more twist. Perhaps that is why you cannot find much on using it for singles.
You need to review your method of winding the ball on the spindle. You are not doing it correctly! Even with a nostepenne, you do NOT wind around the spindle, but rather, the spindle (or the noste) should rotate to wind on the yarn. This you should know as well.
"Set the twist". This is a myth. No one would do this on purpose, which is perhaps a reason why you do not find any reference to it in historical records. It was not done. Everyone knows it is only temporary. It's a waste of time. As soon as you get the yarn or cloth wet again, the twist will revert to the original twist, and the cloth will most likely bias or twist. You MUST ply (or spin a single) with just the correct amount of twist so it is reasonably balanced. You CANNOT hide your faulty work by "setting the twist", because you will soon be found out. No one who is spinning for a living can afford to do sloppy work!
True, what you are doing today is not the way they did it in the past. Do not put your own interpretation of how these tools were used. It is true that you can use the spindle however YOU want to use it; no one is going to stop you. However, it would be wrong to tell people (who know nothing) that what you are showing is the way it was used. You were not there!
It seems to me that someone should not spread false stories about how something was done when he/she doesn't know how it was done! Instead, that person should speak to someone who was there! Get the facts correct and then you will be much more knowledgeable about the whole process --- and can then teach it to others. That is my opinion.
dear lord, it's the spinning police!
Finishing a pronouncement from "on high" with "my opinion" doesn't change the fact that you just posted a dogmatic, "you're doing it wrong" piece that contradicted itself, which tells me that you're not much of a source. You give no authority for your statements, and unless you're an immortal, YOU weren't there either, so how about taking your pronouncements, thinly disguised as "opinions" and shove em until you learn a little diplomacy(which I didn't use since you didn't either)....... And that's MY opinion.
Well that was a repugnant puke ridden sack of negativity! This young lady should be celebrated for attempting to use an ancient tool in a sympathetic manner! How awful that the Puritan has become blinded by bitterness!
You are rude. Any enlightenment you might have shared was covered in your shit.