Behind the Political Spin: The British Election
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- This election is the closest in decades, so winning over an increasingly disillusioned electorate matters. But instead of actually facing the public, the risk-averse party leaders are stuck on a grim carousel of predictable press conferences and stage-managed photocalls.
Politicians are aided in their cause by an army of spin-doctors that minimize unscripted interactions with journalists and the public alike. These media buffers, crowd fluffers, and party cheerleaders help the campaign stay on message, but in doing so they keep politicians evasive, and the public at arm's length.
VICE News joined the campaign trail to confront the journalists, spin-doctors, and leaders who all have a part to play in the evolution of this Pyongyang press junket that serves to lock out the great, unvetted public.
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VICE News joined the campaign trail to confront the journalists, spin-doctors and leaders who all have a part to play in the evolution of this Pyongyang press junket that serves to lock out the great, unvetted public.
Watch "Anti-Islamists Demonstrate in Britain: Hate in Europe" - bit.ly/1GOyT2r
VICE News I have to say the interviewer could have asked some tougher questions. Shame its abit slap dash and does feel like its was made last minute more as click bait than news
"Pyongyang press junket" Jesus Christ
*VOTE UKIP AND SAVE OUR ONCE GREAT NATION*
LIBLABCON ARE ALL THE SAME.
Minty Green.
Minty SNP
***** No we don't need a fascist party. We need a patriotic party. Piss off Nazi
Minty how is UKIP patriotic britain has a long standing position of welcoming immigrants since the empire now mr farage is urging us to kick them out... i wonder if that includes his GERMAN wife
Minty UKIP are full of Tories and represent the rich elite, the UK has no future with them.
Real Bullshit. REAL POLITICS.
Xenon Fall wellcome to VICE
Ghost001 don't worry, all real fascist were hanged or forced into suicide...this... thing is just a desperrate cry for attention. :)
"The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them."
Words to live by
Xenon Fall lol
I threw water at Jermey Hunt at my school fair once. I had no idea at the time but in retrospect I quite enjoy throwing things in the face of the conservatives :)
murdergames Those who cannot win an argument with words often resort to the tactics of a schoolyard bully.
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noteperson0 ?
It was a pr thing he stood in a mock stock and you could donate money to a charity to throw wet sponges at him. I was probably 9 or 10 :)
***** Mate..... it was for charity... think of the children
***** puff damn that's a pretty hard hitting insult :)
Vote for the Green party.
TheFendetta ditto
Why?
***** you cant vote in the third reich, it was both a fascist dictatorship and is also non existent and has been for 70 years thank fuck
TheFendetta LOL nice joke... they can barely run the small town of Brighton let alone the whole of the UK
heynub123 Their policies are by far the best out of all of the parties.
Ed Milliband can't even eat a sandwich so how will he be able to run a country
TruHappyGaming and david cameron couldn't even remember where his daughter was they're both bad
Rory Cullen www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3063103/Cameron-Miliband-Clegg-TV-debate.html
So this is the guy you want the country to be run by really? At Least david cameron saved the economy and is smart. This guy doesn't even know how to run the economy. Let alone a country. I don't even know why anyone supports this guy all together, he has nothing bad to say about this government on the economy, nhs, immigration, unemployment nothing to say at all. So instead he rants about stuff like the eu referendum and televised debates.
You mean Moses?
lman3532 The Daily Mail isn't the best paper to source. Complete tory bias, and is a gossip website. They don't have an ounce of journalistic integrity.
TruHappyGaming "Ed Milliband can't even eat a sandwich so how will he be able to run a country"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
I am wondering which candidate will London banksters elect.
Trolliat Trollstor If the banks were running the election, UKIP would win by a long shot.
TheRadPlayer Unbelievable ignorance.
Trolliat Trollstor I imagine they are cool with the Tories or Labor....both will hook them up.
TheRadPlayer The large banks and corporations are uniformly against UKIP because they benefit from EU membership through regulatory capture, corporate welfare, and cheap labor. Here's just one example: blogs.spectator.co.uk/alex-massie/2013/12/a-choice-for-tories-goldman-sachs-or-ukip/
And please remember, it's okay to be ignorant, but if you are, please don't pretend you know what you're talking about.
Come on guys! it'll obviously be the Tories! They made the rich richer and the poor poorer, well done Cameron!
Vote UKIP, save Europe
Hexaotl how does voting for an anti europe party save europe?
God Goon Take your time you will get it.
Primarch Alpharius you take your time, you'll get it
God Goon
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***** love how your comment got auto- flagged as trash
People don't get that that debate was for the OPPOSITION, aka Not Cameron or Clegg. Hate how they make out as if he is a scared or something, In Prime Ministers questions Milliband got wrecked every time by him but he pulls this "coward" card because it's too late to reorganise the debates, Milliband is completely pathetic.
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CaptainShed Why does Cameron refuse to debate Miliband head to head? What has he got to lose? If you think PMQs is in anyway a debate, you must be deluded.
Luke PMQ is where the opposition attempts to find faults in the government, whether it's your form of a "debate" is irrelevant seeing as Ed loses every time, usually speechless because he doesn't have a retort. To be honest Milliband provides better comedy in those than most shows on the BBC. Cameron wanted other parties to be involved which is completely fair. If it wasn't for Cameron so many people wouldn't even know parties like UKIP and Greens exist. Proper democracy instead of Labours hypocrisy.
CaptainShed As in it's name, PMQs is for the opposition to ask questions to the PM, it's not intended to be a debate in anyway. David Cameron said himself before the 2010 election to Brown it's ridiculous to claim PMQs can be called a debate.
“If it wasn't for Cameron so many people wouldn't even know parties like UKIP and Greens exist.” Seriously? Not sure if trolling...
“I won't do the debates unless it includes UKIP.” UKIP gets included. “I won't do the debates unless the Greens are included.” the Greens get included. “I won't do the debates unless the SNP and PC are included.” SNP and PC get included. “I won't do the debates unless the Northern Irish Parties are included.” Seriously? “Okay I'll do one debate, but no more.” Any serious person with a functioning brain, Tory or not knows he withered out of them to avoid risking a reduction in his opinion ratings. People wouldn't know UKIP and the Greens exist? I don't where you've been, UKIP and the Greens have received substantial media coverage for the last three years.
Luke They would not be mainstream and Cameron has made in black and white clear in the past that Milliband is terrible at debating and arguing vs him. tbh he's pretty pathetic
conservative right wing? used to be, now everyones boringly centre, ukip is right wing
Allegra Stratton talking about the importance of not screwing up is retrospective gold.
"Just go with your first impression"
I wonder what their impression of Thatcher was? lol
So British politicians are afraid to meet with their constituents? What kind of government do you guys have over there???
Jim Bob obviously we should follow Americas foot steps to become a true free country right?
Connor Haynes Oooh ouch taking a shot at the left. Could just as easily said it what a shitty right-wing non-democracy though. Best part is neither is correct. The UK is an oligarch bitch just like the US and most other big modern "democracies".
Jim Bob Feministic
***** Couldn't agree more, anyone who believes this left-wing right-wing bullshit is fucking gullible mun.
Either way prepare to be shafted royally.
TheAwillz The queen will make sure of that. lol
Nigel is the most transparent politician.
Adam Hughes no he just knows how to tie his alcohol problem into his job.
Nigel actually answers the questions instead of slipping around of them like all of the other party leaders.
penguim2 I don't like any of his answers
"This is democracy in action. This is what we have to be."
great quote right there.
When did democracy become voting for the best actor in a variety of carefully selected and scripted plays?
Miliband wants to outlaw Islamophobia. That's all I need to know.
The fact that the press allow this to happen with questioning how absurdly fake it is, is an embarrassment
Whats Vice News?
Awkward.
Love this. Straight up asked questions right up the arse at the politicians. They (politicians) are trying so hard not to say anything wrong that it is ridiculous. Although this is understandable. It is the medias fault really. Because when the media tries to attract people with headlines and stories that is often only half the truth, that is when it gets really fucked up. I love you Vice News for not being a part of that. Feels genuine and honest. Thank you
It will never cease to amaze me how the British can say "well fuck you to" using just their eyebrows.
Just yesterday I saw a report on Swedish TV about this election and there they showed a clip from some British show where the party leaders where the audience asked some really though questions, some of them even rude.
That was a really big contrast from this.
Chasing Jeremy Hunt through the spin room shouting "just a quick line" 🤣 Gove obviously wasn't in attendance, he would've bitten your hand off
Different people, same charade. Cant wait for the day that everyone finally has enough of this BS. All this politicians are friends playing one big show but in the end the real power always wins, we just have the ILLUSION of choosing
Embarrassing how none of them know Vice News and how that somehow disqualifies them in their eyes.
There was plenty to dislike about Ed Miliband - but he was strides ahead of Cameron and Clegg in this election. For all his faults, the PR obsessions, his savvy politician demeanor - his desire to change the country was far more authentic than Cameron's; who you can tell just lifted lines about change from Obama because he's more interested in electioneering and listening to his PR gurus than putting up a flag and standing for something. Miliband represented, however marginally, a return to the values of Old Labour, when social justice was non-negotiable. He was about shifting the balance of power in favour of ordinary people far more than Cameron or Clegg could ever pretend to be.
Just look at the open season the british press exacted on Miliband. The tabloids abandoned all pretense of impartiality. They were terrified that Miliband might just make good on his promise to make the rich pull their weight. That's all it is: make the people who have more money than sense do a little bit more to help society in these hard times. The media used every tactic in the book to make that sound unappealing.
I know Vice news is supposed to bring you the real hard hitting stories that the "mainstream media" wont publish.
But that being said there is no need to swear in a public setting. It really gives off a unprofessional vibe.
Just a thought.
The guy that owns Fox has like a 10% stake in VICE.
Robert Murdoch if I remember correctly.
Wow recently I've been a little disappointed in some of the reporting by Vice News but I thought this was great. Very raw and honest and not saying that one side was better than the other, just that politicians most often act pragmatically because they have a lot to loose and little to gain by taking risks.
Lincoln isn't in the North of England, it's in the East Midlands. Top journalism there.
Everyone vote labour and your mum will live another healthy 10 years.
Kasey.C KC she has cancer i doubt she'll live another ten with labor cutting healthy benefits for workers
"The left wing Labour Party"? Wrong kiddo
They don't know Vice News YET. When they realize how Vice is influential among millennials, they will beg for an interview for whatever the reason.
Grate pice one of my favourite sorce's for information keep it up.
They had to recharge Jeremy's battery before he could speak to the press.
I think the problem with this election is that we need to keep David Cameron in for one more term so he can continue to rebuild the economy but that's all that he is there for, the British public need Ed Miliband for his long tears economic plans such as keeping the NHS. So maybe the next election we will see Ed Miliband in power
When will people understand.. it doesn't matter who you vote for. They all have the same ppl they answer too (ppl with money). Who could not care less about the middleclass.(there is no middleclass btw). To be top 1% in this world u need to make about 35k USD a year. So basicly we are all poor except the 0,00001% who hoards the green paper!
"Who's Vice news?" To which everyone laughs...
FACEDESK! I love the docos and news stories you guys report on. I feel like this is the real news and enjoy everyone of them. Makes me smile how no one has heard of vice. I ask my friends and probably only 2 of them have seen vice docos before.. I will continue to spread the word ;)
11:52 I think it might be because its called "Vice" news and that sets off a politicians alarm bells because of the negative conotations of "vice".
The featured journalist Ben does not have professional quality required, and is responsible for Vice News not being taken seriously. Unless this is what Vice wanted, which is a shame.
51.5 million people ,my estimate, could vote. Of those, some 7.7 million don't even register, and only 67% registered voters vote. (About 60% of eligible population votes).
Cons, with 50.9% of parliamentary seats, actually got support from about 22% of those eligible to vote; just over one in four people appear to support them, and this is heralded as a great victory! Just how democratic are we?
who vice news? where they from? vice news? VICE?
Ed hadn't heard of Vice. Bit surprised. I can understand the members of the 1922 committee not knowing.
Your participation in "democracy" is limited to your vote. Nothing more. Nothing less. You more often than not aren't allowed to ask politicians questions, even if you intend to vote for them, even if they disgrace the campaign promises that won your vote in the first place. You can shake their hand if you're lucky... To me, this sounds a lot like a broken system.
The Tories may win a few more seats than Labour (mainly due to the fact Labour's being obliterated in Scotland by the SNP), but Labour and the left-wing parties (SNP, SDLP, PC, Green) could easily bring down a Tory government, even if it's supported by the Lib Dems, DUP and UKIP. In other words, left-wing parties will win more seats between them than right-wing parties. Meaning Cameron will struggle to lead a government. Meanwhile, the main parties are trying to rule out doing deals with the smaller parties. On an unrelated note, Nick Clegg is expected to lose his seat of Sheffield Hallam. This will undoubtably be an interesting one...
I would side with the labor party if they werent such sellouts, I agree with their general principles but they cave into right-wing demands too often.
catothewiser There is no single definition, but generally right-wing means to support the elitist upper classes, left-wing is to support the oppressed lower classes.
catothewiser Lenin wrote a book called "Left-Wing Communism: An Infantile Disorder" where he openly mocks leftists within the Communist movement, he was not exactly "right-wing" but he was not left-wing either, he was a very odd rare mixture of both, as was Stalin and many of the Eastern Communists in General, including the Chinese, Koreans, etc. Communism in the East is more right-wing than Communism in the West. Its odd, yes, but its reality. Google "Socialism vs the USSR" and you can see the details
God journalists are so annoying. This guy was so obnoxious to Jeremy Hunt
Labour should win.
I don't know why anyone ever expects anything decent from the power-hungry.
Very nice piece...
Ace of a question posed to Milliband. Loved the little ghasp of astonishment at the word "bullshit". Oh my word, you swore at the party leader! No-one swears at him! After all, he's up there, and we're down here! Fuck off.
This disgusting farce of a 'democratic'process is exactly why so many British people are politically apathetic. Whilst I believe that not voting is disgusting and disrespectful in itself, it saddens me that such a system as we see has resulted from the suffering of millions over centuries and war, so in a sense I can empathise with the apathetic. I just wish that there was a socialist version of Nigel farage minus the xenophobia tbh
I Like the way you can see the botox in Caroline Flints forehead
I love the idea of this "peek behind the curtain" so to speak, but surely something as big as the uk election would warrant a more capable reporter? He was like a lost puppy when he got the chance to ask Miliband a question, a good opportunity to have a pop squandered there, and saying the word "bullshit" only showed his lack of experience or skill. It's like he'd put more thought into deciding to say the big nasty word to a politician to get cool points or come off as an edgey reporter, that he completely forgot to put any thought into his question or the delivery of it. Fail
"Who's Vice News?" xD
I love my freedom and dumbocracy!
Alexis Sanchez The Duracell Edition seems pretty free here in New Zealand
Alexis Sanchez The Duracell Edition k
Hi there Ariel Jewani
Alexis Sanchez The Duracell Edition Heh, I'm a Fin myself and none of my friends think Finland is democratic. Then I tell them that statistically Finland is. They still go on, though. Every citizen thinks their country is fucked, even if it's not.
Alexis Sanchez The Duracell Edition I completely disagree with you, but at least you're civil.
Nothing worse than career politicians and lobbyists.
I thought this documentary was below their (Vice's) usual impeccable standards in terms of reporting.
You should have spoken to Nigel Farage, he has no problem talking to alternative media.
"Vice News? Oh-I-I-I-Uhm-Oh-Ooh-Eeh-Aah-I--OOO-EE-OO-AHHAHH"
The Tony Blair Strategic Advisor's comments were the realpolitik. The unspinned truth. Nothing sexy, just the truth.
Can't help but pointing out even the hip young centered labour candidate didn't have a clue who vice news was so having Jeremy avoid questioning until later might have been him having to Google who the hell vice news is.
Funny how little people know of vice news even though personally I think I get more in depth info from them.
This is precisely the problem with career politicians. People in general are usually very bad at lying about lies that they cover up with more lies, and the media are starting to catch on to this. This is why career politicians go to great lengths to keep these things private.
vice works for HBO-you certainly have 750 to pay for a bus
Huh, I thought the queen made the decisions and chooses who is the minister. : /
What do they do anyway?
great journalism as always vice
Why does this Ben guy remind me of Athelstan from the series Vikings. lol
Russell Brand sort of endorsed Milliband, I guess that's who people should be voting for if they're going to bother at all
Democracy in action, or rather Democracy inaction?
Vice News, you're doing a wonderful job, keep it on!
Lol i love that lady telling him to chase Jeremy Hunt.
That Tony Blair guy knows the system pretty well
I'm feeling like communism is a better option each day. It would shut all these liars up.
An American news organisation talking about what a show the british election campaigns are. You make me laugh!
NOBODY THAT TALKS ABOUT ISLAMIC EXTREMISM ?
Everyone's comments, and the video make my blood boil,me every single bit of it.
Yeah Its not great, but its a hell of a lot better than most other democracies, I'm quite happy with our system really.
See the way that guy pretended to not know Vice news! I mean cmon , dude was on trews with brand last week he def knows about one of the largest internet news channels that even peeked Rupert Murdock's interest..
Theres Hamza imagine he knew where he'd be now
"Today, the left wing Labour party"........HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA left my hairy fokken arse.
conservative 'right' wing and labour 'left' wing?
i think not
Partisanship is the new normal in global politics
this was so good! Ben was so great!!!
Haha it is testament to how out of touch with the people that Ed Miliband is that he doesn't know who Vice are.
You lot should interview Maajid Nawaz @MaajidNawaz parliamentary candidate in Hampstead & Kilburn
Stage. Management. BS.
Vote UKIP
Politicians are all the same.
Rupert Murdoch has a stake in Vice News
Politicians better wise up to vice quickly, they're establishing themselves as a force with a considerable following- people are insulted when someone like Jeremy Hunt turns down an interview because he doesn't know the name.
ollie clymer Not quite mainstream yet though, especially in the UK. They might have a deal with HBO, although I don't think Sky(uk cable) has picked up any of their stuff yet.
ollie clymer There will be day when television will be dwarfed by internet but it will take time. Maybe in 30 years.
The government seems a lot like the monarchy, no?
hahaha the woman at 11:40 is great
im a NYer, but i dont think there are any good candidates this time around. Eds brother seems a much better choice for labor leader from what i can see. Cameron seems like the most bland of the post thatcher PMs, but im not so sure there is a better person during this GE. i love British politics but this time around seems a bit choice less. oh and Nigel Farage is the poor mans Enoch and though Enoch was an asshole at least he was respectable. so i guess my vote is for Cameron. at least he seems able for the job....
7:00 What's Vice News? That pisses me off. What do you think it is? Also it annoys me that people only read these mainstream papers and news organisaton's bullshit. #ViceNews Btw I am not against Labour in anyway, so don't hate too bad.
How can Ed Miliband be in tune with young people when he hasn't even heard of VICE NEWS? SMH
Awww no politician knows Vice News! :(
Jeremy-san notice me!~
"Who's Vice"?........ HAHAH didn't someone mention that he is a favorite amongst young voters.
Athostan from Vikings?