Is 101 DALMATIANS II A Good Disney Sequel? | JAMBAREEQI ORANGE
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- As voted for by my Patrons, I review the straight to video sequel to Disney's "One Hundred and One Dalmatians", which has Patch the puppy teaming up with his hero Thunderbolt.
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By far one of the best Disney sequels. Not perfect of course, but definitely watchable.
I don’t hate this movie. It’s not terrible. It does try to recreate the look and feel of the first movie. For the most part, it succeeds
You could say Pongo and Perdita were given the Mrs. Brisby treatment. If you've seen Secret of NIMH 2.
I really love this film, I think in my opinion it does stand out to the other Disney sequels and it actually feels “fresh” in a way, even though, it’s predictable and the issue as u said could be solved in a tv episode, but at the same time, I just really like this film. I e always felt like I could relate to Patch in a way, I even think he could possibly have traits of autism and OCD, because of how I’m in the spectrum slightly myself. So I can see why people would find his trait of reminiscing episodes and numbers would be annoying, but I honestly didn’t find it annoying strangely, and also the fact that he does spoil some of the episodes which annoys his siblings indirectly?
I do feel like that even though, people would find Patch annoying in this film, I actually like the change from him being a bit of a potty mouth in the first film to being more quiet, shy, humble, but intelligent. In my opinion, it’s most likely this change happens because not only was he kidnapped with his siblings, but also the fact, his parents have adopted 85 new siblings which is quite a lot to take in.
I actually didn’t mind the sequel,it’s not the original but it is better than say belles magical world or Mulan 2
By far! And well said my friend.
Mulan 2 was one of the better ones imo. Yeah it stunk in certain areas, but also excelled in others that several sequels completely failed in, like the music or animation
I loved this so much as a kid. Haven't watched it in forever, but I think it would still hold up.
What's really interesting is that Thunderbolt is voiced by the narrator of the English version of Fantastic Planet, Barry Bostwick
This is certainly one of the better Disney sequels!
I had a feeling this one would be what would get the most votes from last months poll. I admit I haven't watched 101 Dalmatians 2, and even as a kid watching the trailers, I wasn't entirely sold on it. I was sort of worried it was just going to follow the same beats as Lady and the Tramp 2. But from what you described here, I guess that if I ever end up having to watch it, it doesn't sound like it'll be too bad (apart from being too far-removed from the feel of the original, and a whole other string of clichés).
To be honest, I hope Mark Twain gets the most votes for the next Jambareeqi Orange, instead of Return of Jafar; I would hate to see this series turn into 'Jambareeqi DTV-Disney-sequel Orange'! XD
i've seen this movie and it's a good movie
I haven,'t seen this film in a while since I only have it on VHS.
I have watched that film on VHS aswell when I was younger.
You’re right. It’s definitely not faithful compared to the original but yes it is one of the more watchable sequels. Few griping moments to sit through here and there but there are some things that do save it a small bit. As you pointed out already, there are far worse sequels for kids to watch...
You learn to love Lars after one line after going all lovey-dovey over the puppies then he heard what he was to do with them he said He might be eccentric but not a sicko ,then vows to try and keep the puppies safe.
Flaws and all, this was definitely my favorite Disney classic sequel. It just felt different and on a better quality scale than the rest of direct to DVD sequels.
Lois Griffin
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If She Doesn't Scare You No Evil Thing Will
Thunderbolt is Pach’s special interest.
It was a joke.
@marianne mccrank Did i offend you ?
I would love to hear your thoughts on The Return of Jafar, wanting to know more about why you think it's a lazy effort.
I'd like to revisit it, I'm wondering if my opinion is still the same.
Lois Griffin Could Be A Smoker Like Cruella De Vil
0:35 Patch is actually 1 of the 15 biological puppies of Pongo & Perdita
I know, but he's also one of 101 Dalmatians adopted by Roger & Anita, that was my shorthand way of explaining the setup of there being 101 Dalmatians
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By far the best of the direct to DVD sequels, which isn't really saying much.
Didn’t Netflix’s The Loud House movie have a similar plot? (Main character has identity crisis and compares himself to his siblings)
interestingly enough this movie was retconned by 101 Dalmatian Street. Also I still can't fathom why Lucky has white ears in this movie when they were black in the original movie (as well as in the live action movie, and 101 Dalmatians the series)
Jambareeqi. If I may ask. When it comes to children's media. Do you think there should be a balance between the more intelligent content (To give them something unforgettable and challenging) and the more mindless content (the kind that kids watch to relief some stress out after a day of school)?
It's important to remember that fun and intelligent aren't mutually exclusive tones, you can make something that respects a child's intelligence while having a sense of humour too, the works of Tex Avery & Chuck Jones are testament to this.
I love the sequel irs funny and wacthable its not like the original but it will keep me and younger kids entertained.
Okay, Patch is One of the 15 & the other 84 are adopted & plus Pongo and Perdita Dal couldn’t adopt themselves 2:12 okay what a surprise!!
So, is this better than the live action 102 Dalmatians? P.S I predict that you'll be reviewing either Leo The Lion or Return of Jafar. Just a...feeling. lol
Animation is always better... I am working toward a Bachelors in Animation and Visual Effects though... So I might be a bit bias.
@@johnmckeon4498 That's a good point. Thanks for sharing!
"is 101 dalmatians 2 a good disney sequel?"
me: always has been
What do you think about the live action 102 Dalmatians?
Where humans take dogs to a puppet show, make them sit at the dinner table, watch a bloody video and nearly burn Cruella to death in an oven!
Never smoke pot when writing a family film.
I've not seen the live action films since I was very young
In the original she is obsessed with fur, to the point of skinning the fur of animals off to make a coat. In the live action film, she even had a Siberian Tiger skinned to make a sort of a fur scarf.
Is there actually a name for this art style they used for the backgrounds in the 101 Dalmatians movies? Because I have seen this art style or similar often been used in cartoons and movies.
It's the Disney Xerox style. In the 60's they xeroxed the pencil lines directly on to the cels instead of the inkers tracing them. That cut costs so they didn't have to pay all those inkers.
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Cel Animation is obsolete this was digitally colored. They drew on paper and scanned the drawings into the computer and colored them in Photoshop and drew the lines rough to get the classic look.
Many cartoons in the 80's and 90's used xerograpy.
I like 101 Dalmatians 2: Patch's London Adventure
11:43 Why is there no credits music?
Because my editing software is a piece of shit sometimes.
I swear, am I the ONLY person on Earth who feels like they completely changed Patch's character in this sequel compared to the original movie?? In the first movie, Patch angrily tears at the carpet and literally straight up says that he wants to kill the villain on the TV during the scene where the Dalmatians watch Thunderbolt. It's strongly implied that he was supposed to be a short-tempered, headstrong kid with a protective big brother instinct (He stands up for Lucky when Horace pushes him down from the TV in Hell Hall later in the movie too) which is NEVER reflected in this DTV sequel. Those unique traits, along with his implied bond with Penny (they're the only puppies that directly talk to each other that isn't Pongo or Perdy) and difficult relationship with Perdita that could have been developed into a decent, fleshed out character are deleted entirely in favor of downgrading him into a weak, passive runt with little self-confidence who won't shut the fuck up about how great Thunderbolt is. Yes, it was clear that he knew more about the show than his other siblings in the first movie, but he was never THIS obsessed. Patch's character in this movie is *defined* by his affinity for his idol. Even when he comes into his own in the film's third act, his actions are still very much rooted in his obsession for Thunderbolt. Patch in this movie isn't a *bad* child protagonist per say, but he is really is not the same kid from the first movie.
I agree, while Patch is still likeable character and Bobby Lockwood gave a decent performance, I never liked how they pretty much gave him Lucky’s personality, with the latter being more quiet, meek and shy, and it’s doubly ironic since he has PATCH’S character in the TV show! I get that they altered Patch to make him more relatable to kids who’ve gone through similar identity crises or have multiple siblings, but it does bother me a lot that they changed Patch from a gutsy, confident pup into Lucky 2.0 just to get across the message, they could’ve kept him the same as he was in the first movie and write the second movie around that. I also agree that Patch defines himself TOO MUCH from Thunderbolt, which not only goes against the message of putting celebrities on pedestals, but also takes away from Patch’s arc of finding the courage and confidence in himself to be himself and be his own hero.
Maybe if the film had ended with Thunderbolt offering Patch to become his new sidekick on his show, but Patch, realising that the show was just escapist fantasy and he didn’t NEED it to be brave, along with not wanting to leave his family for it, politely declines, which Thunderbolt accepts and says that he’s going to have a holiday to get away from the spotlight, and after a heartfelt goodbye, they all gather for the photograph like at the end of the movie, presumably also cutting out the Patch being Thunderbolt’s sidekick in the mid-credits scene.
It was a really good movie!
Actually Patch is one of the original 15 puppies
Yes, I know, but he's also a member of the 101 dalmatians owned by Roger and Anita, that was my shorthand way of explaining the title to those new to the franchise.
I love Lil' Lightning I felt sorry for him as Thunderbolt is a dick to him.
That doesn't justify Lil' Lightning manipulating Thunderbolt in order to steal his job, you've got to be the bigger person
@@Jambareeqi Hi Jam. True, but I appreciated that Lightning was not a one dimensional villain and had reason for him to turn bad. As far as he was concerned he tricked Thunderbolt into losing his job by getting to humiliate himself in public, It also shows he is smarter than him. That's just what I felt when I last saw this as a kid.
Lois Griffin is Like Cruella De Vil
What do you think of Martin short’s performance as Lars in this movie?
It's great, he gives Lars a campy smugness but also shows a sincere side too
Jambareeqi cool, do you like Martin short?
Yes, unless he's trying too hard as an actor, like in "Treasure Planet"
Jambareeqi I see, did you like him when he played Stefano in Madagascar 3?
I can't help getting 'slight' feelings of ableism concerning the comments here about Patch's 'episode knowledge'. This was hugely relatable to me as an autistic child growing up, while, at the time, I didn't know any series well enough to say what exactly happened in each episode, I had similar knowledge in my brain that I would have loved to recite/talk about if people had been interested. To say that this is inherently annoying actually seems pretty mean to people who are like how I was as a child, dismissing their love of specific knowledge. I know it's an unusual trait to have, but would it really be OK to discourage this kind of enthusiasm if it's someone's primary way of expressing themselves and communicating with others?
You do know that I'm Autistic too? Right? Yes, we have this trait, but I think that the film handles it poorly.
@@Jambareeqi Ah, interesting, I didn't know that. I guess we both had different interpretations of the character, while for me, Patch was relatable, I can understand this wouldn't be the case for everyone on the autism spectrum. I can also relate to the fact that certain character traits/quirks can be annoying for autistic people! :-)
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