WotC News: SRD, D&D Beyond Marketplace, AI | Nerd Immersion
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2024
- SRD 5.2 - www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1717-...
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AI - dnd-support.wizards.com/hc/en...
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If you're upset about the a la carte options going away, there's a thread on the dnd beyond forums being watched by a staff member where you can tell them how you feel.
Thanks, I'll definitely check that out
Personally, I hope it decreases their revenue. I can't imagine people will buy a 20-30-40 dollar book for a pair of subclasses or whatever.
@@gcollins1992 It will decrease their revenue. Their quarterly earnings took a huge nosedive already. They're just gambling on there being enough whales to counteract that.
@@sodasaintcommentaries4054 well, one of em, me, just unsubscribed due to this and sent a tweet about it...
@@sodasaintcommentaries4054 my thing is that whales work in large through repeatable micro transactions. Whales would already buy the bundles. These transactions are repeatable. So really all they are doing is cutting off the a la carte purchases and diminishing customer satisfaction. (Also, the a la carte was that cheap and if you weren’t paying attention you could pay more that way than buying the entire booo)
Olg effected mainly DMs and creatives. Marketplace effects everyone using DnD beyond
To be fair tho DMs and creatives are the ones keeping this hobby alive. Without "creatives" WotC would eventually run out of designers to hire, especially if they pushed out the 3rd party ttrpg devs, unless they just wanted to start hiring game devs instead lmao.
So happy a major content creator is covering the issue with the DnD Beyond Marketplace. This info and stupid change needs to get out there. Thank you for covering it. This is going to hurt schools and programs like that even more. They don't have the budget always to buy the whole book in those programs and just purchase pieces as students want them.
All of us having to go back to paper and pencil using resources like RPGBOT.
note: I stopped at the OGL that I don't subscribe to digital from WOTC. I don't pre order. I wait till the book on the shelf. then I look at it and decide if I buy it.
Yes, a video explaining the whole OG situation and the fallout from it would be a good idea
It’s been covered to death at this point.😊
Roll for combat has a lot of OGL content. Including talking with lawyers, one of the guys that created the OGL and what the purpose/intent was and a summary of everything that happened if you are curious
Legal Eagle covered the OGL to a degree.
Removing the ability to purchase individual elements of a book sucks. I very rarely bought entire books in the past because I dont care about the campaign stuff as i exclusively run homebrew settings.
I bought every released book so far, but just because I do doesn't mean I did not enjoy the option not to.
A la carte purchase is an accessible way to get content for smaller income people, and i would want that preserved.
Also As A Homebrew DM myself this is a real bother.
DND put so much effort in turning their players away
Air your grievances over on the dndbeyond forum. There's a thread there being watched by a staff member.
Rather than buying 1 thing, why don't you just create it? I'm pretty sure that's why they took it out. I know myself if I own the physical book and need something in D&D Beyond (subclass, race, etc) i'll just create it.
@@dub3773 I don't have the physical book. To track it down and create it requires less than kosher means. Plus I'd rather just let my.okayrrs have access to the official stuff instead of cluttering up my homebrew list.
@@dub3773 I havent looked into the subclass creation tools. But the reason is mostly time I guess? Setting up a bunch of subclasses sounds very intensive.
I just wish the Artificer was in the new SRD.
The Mechanist is in Kobold Press's Tales of the Valiant OGL
@@rpgfamiliar ain't nobody actually going to play that
@@MadElk32 Tons of people already are, don't be a clown. Especially one that isn't even funny.
You don't need it to be. Strip out the flavor text, and the rest is uncopyrightable.
@@armorclasshero2103 This. You cannot copyright rules or instructions.
You can't copyright game rules. That's why we have words with friends. Please learn the law before commenting about it. The SRD is not a gift for us, it's a requirement for them, so they can say this part is rules and everything else is copyright protected.
The Marketplace changes are bad for consumers. Until they realize that they aren't forcing people to buy the full book, they are forcing people to not make a purchase at all, they will continue to deny us access to a la carte. It's all about how you, the customer responds. If you want a la carte back, don't buy the books.
Because i got curious from the news of the market place, i checked the forums. There is a possibility of them bringing back a la carte, if they're pressured
WOTC seems to listen to Ginny Di. Maybe she can call for another boycott. 🤷🏻♂️
The blinking Steam notification was making my brain itch soooo badly. 🤪
I'm a popular guy, what can I say
I sure HOPE the DM's Guild is here to stay! I just started to make a miniscule amount of money off of it.
I literally decided to use D&D beyond. The day after they dropped à la cart options. I have physical books and I only use beyond when I’m a player. I just need a character builder.
If i recall correctly players don't need to own the books on beyond, instead the DM of the campaign has to own them.
Worth noting, there are other character builders out there now what do exactly what D&D beyond does. I think one of them might even be roll 20
@@MichaelNgTzeWei Players don't need to own them as long as the DM owns them and subscribes to the Master plan, which makes it possible to share content between players in a campaign. This can be done for up to 3 campaigns at a time.
@@beardalaxy Thanks for the clarification
On the A.I. thing as an anecdote:
So the stereotypical AI face/cartoon girl model was trained on a particular artist. Their whole portfolio ripped and scanned without permission.
They posted their art on some of the TTRPG art subreddits I follow and kept getting attacked for it being A.I. because of the style.
During the process of the big fight, where even the mods got divided, it came out that the artist now streams their art process because they have to prove that it wasn't generated and has to include the streams as part of their portfolio and in contract work. They have to show industry clients, in real time, that they are doing what the industry contracted them to do.
I fucking hate tech bros. They ruin everything they touch.
Oh my dude, you are correct in a way.
However, I am also a "tech bro," (Game development) & an artist/writer.
Even I don't get on board with the A.I. craze.
Widen your gaze beyond TTRPG & tech... There's a deeper level of BBEG's in the Campaign of Life that are merely "relative" to this particular subject.
@@deepsea5266 Nah, they are just correct.
And If you are the kind of person who self identifies as a tech bro, Imma bet you say “woke” unironically as an insult.
Tech bros ruin everything.
Ya the tech bros who created the computer.. the internet.. video games.. smart phones.. assholes… all of them!
I'm not a tech bro, but I support AI. If people want to buy AI products, go ahead. If they want human made stuff, go ahead. You are basically a modern luddite if you're against AI. If you want a handmade designer bag, go shell out the 100k it costs to buy one. Meanwhile, I'll stick to my factory made $20 bag...
They're going to put SRDs from previous editions into the Creative Commons? Sweet!
With regards to the billing changes... the removal of the à la carte, the needing to call for an applied refund, and the old order history not being accessible (which was not mentioned in the video). I bet that this is the result of a (probably massive) change of the under the hood billing and ordering service. I'm betting that the new service either doesn't have the capacity or will need additional code work to allow the à la carte billing. Keeping track of that kind of partial purchase is pretty complex and not all billing systems can handle it. Or, if they can handle it, WOTC needs to do some adjustments on their side to adapt to the new billing service.
I remember thinking the gag of Lucy moving the football while Charlie Brown tries to kick the football was absurd but here we are.
The Redesign made it impossible for me to order from DnDBeyond.
They also ruined their ala carte service/removed it.
This was the last nail needed for me to leave that coffin.
They lost a customer I guess.
Just cancelled my subscription, and I will make a fuss
Air your grievances over on the dndbeyond forum. There's a thread about it being watched being watched by a staff member.
I play MtG, as well as D&D. WotC's shenanigans over the last couple of years has led me to a point where I no longer give Hasbro/Wizards my money. I was initially saddened, as I've been playing since the Moldvay box back in the day, but the further removed I get the less I find I care.
They took comment function off that post on DNDBeyond!
wow! thankyou for the update!! Where can I complain about the a la carte change. I totally depended on that!!
They went from getting some of my money, to none of it. On three separate occasions in the last week I've wanted to buy individual items from books I did not own, but as someone who runs a completely homebrew setting and campaign there is no way I'm buying like $120 worth of books just for a few items here, a couple classes there, and a race. I just can't justify that. The a la carte purchasing meant that so many more people could get into D&D and now it has been reduced to only those who can shell out money for the whole book even if they want a small part of it, and that's what leads to piracy. If I weren't mid-campaign right now I'd be going over to Pathfinder easily, since all of their content is just out there for you to use. Whoever made this decision has no idea what they're doing.
Marketplace screwed up a lot for the early release for Vecna yesterday. Anyone who bought the bundle AFTER April 30th in US didn't get early access.
Even in their own advertising they still said you could get early access after the update.
One streamer that does Vecna lore took vacation time just to post videos all day, didn't get the early access because it was bought on May 2nd.
When he asked about it on WOTC's discord, his posts were repeatedly deleted.
Same thing happened to me, but mine was bought in February. I never made a big deal about it because I'm not planning on running it for another month or so anyway.
Hopefully the new CEO is better and actually makes the bed better
The funny thing about machine learning generated text, is that at this point obvious mistakes are more likely to indicate that a person wrote something than a machine. Typically things like ChatGPT make logical errors or produce inconsistent details, but will usually have impeccable grammar, spelling, and punctuation. Usually what clues you in is that in is that the writing is perfect, but the content is repetitive or feels sort of meaningless. In a way, it's uncanny valley but for writing - it's a little too perfect, and feels lifeless.
I had already noticed the removal of the alacarte options in the past two books. They just didn't announce it till now. Which loses them money cause I would of bought bits from the books a bit at a time and more than likely would buy the full book later.
I would love to see an interview with counsel pertaining to the SRD!
I love ALL Nerd Immersion videos!
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very glad to hear about SRD 5.2
i think the a la carte purchase removal was tactical: people can use the homebrew system to replicate specific content, thus eliminating much of the impetus to purchase full books for desired content, which leads to WotC revenue falling, which then can then be blamed on the Homebrew functionality of D&D Beyond, which then allows them to justify nuking Homebrew, thus making D&DBeyond even less appealing and driving away users. Why? The CEO has stated he wants to destroy D&DBeyond and this is a clear trajectory towards that end. I'm saving copies of all my homebrew content in advance of this possibility.
Ted, one question though: since you mentioned how mindflayers are a property of the D&D brand, we know for a fact that Square Enix (previously just Square) included many monsters and nomenclature from D&D in its first Final Fantasy, and then every subsequent Final Fantasy title, case and point, mindflayers themselves appear in Final Fantasy. How do you think that works?
There may have been a licensing agreement. Or maybe Square just got lucky and possibly slipped under the radar from TSR days
@@NerdImmersion Man, that second one is so funny to me, if true! 🤣 But I don't think WotC would do anything about that now, even if that were the case, as Square is just too big, and they only go against small time creators they know they can easily squash down because involving the legal team would be a huge money investment and they have to be sure they can have a return on that investment, which is both infuriating and terrifying for how much it makes sense.
One reason could be that SquareEnix is a Japanese company. International lawsuits are difficult due to different legal systems and that's one of the reasons China has so many bootleg products. Sure, they could sue the US branch but at that point it might not be worth it. Also mind flayers don't really have all that big of a role in FF as far as I'm aware.
@@backonlazer791 they do not, you're right, they mostly appear as bosses or hidden encounters, but it's still an interesting topic to think about.
@@NerdImmersionnope
I was running an adventure for my friends and they were about to come up against an animated armour, but it was too low level to make an interesting encounter. I hopped on DDB *mid session* and bought the higher level animated armour from Curse of Strahd for like two bucks. Boom, done, session was great. Sad to see this option is gone.
So long as we can copy materials into the homebrew function, I’m ok with losing out on the a la carte purchasing. Less money for them from me.
As Ted, I didn't expect them to make a free SRD under the 2024/25 books. So, in the grand scheme of things, when looking at things overall, even with the al a carte items going away. I still consider this an overall win.
What's telling about the AI thing is that they're talking about art but not writing.
Art is important to D&D, but actually the writing is even more so.
I feel like we're going to see more chat gpt style writing going forward.
I get why they aren’t doing the SRD a s a rollout, but I’m also not a fan of the 8 month period where all 3rd party materials have to be on hold. WotC would use that time to theoretically push its own content, but considering we won’t have the new full system to actually play the new content…. This is like a 8 month content drought during a new handbook release. Seems iffy. I don’t use a lot of modules or adventures, but I know a lot of people do. Real miss there.
it took 2 years for the old srd to come out.
SRD 5.2 may be out by Easter 2025, should be out by May 2025.
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Aside from class options, spells and magic items, there are a lot gameplay things the SRD doesn’t include for some reason.
- it has planar travel rules, but not wilderness travel.
- you get traps, but not siege weapons?
- Hell, the section on DUNGEONS is missing from the DUNGEONS & Dragons SRD.
Ted,
Actually they reverted the class progression and subclass changes different levels for Cleric and other Classes in the later versions of the UA for 2024 back to match the current 5e progression and subclass. It was an experiment to see how people liked it or didn't Same with changes to the warlock to a full spell caster, they reverted back to a pact magic caster. Otherwise adventures with sub classes wouldn't be compatible and they want them to be so they can keep selling them.
It would be great if they created SRD's for previous editions. You probably already can mimic previous editions, but that requires a lot of more work.
Well, the à la carte is a nice to have ... what sucks a lot more is, when I have to buy to whole book 3x !
I have the physical book ... yipie, that's how a book is supposed to be.
But when I want to create a character on Roll20 , I have to buy the virtual book.
AND dnd beyond doesn't care, that I already have the physical book AND the virtual book ... I have to buy the virtual book AGAIN, for exactly the same price, when I want to use the content on dnd beyond. Yeay 🤬
Simple solution. Don’t buy the pdf. You already have the info.
@@ericaltmann5711 Indeed I have, but then I can not use the info in any feature of DnD Beyond, like character generator, online play feature, etc.
@@Xulfein That’s a shame.What happens when all “your” content gets deleted then? I am sorry mate, I am very old school, pen and paper and theatre of the mind for the last 42 years as a gamer, and using an online character creator just seems to suck all the fun out of it for me. I will probably still be running games the old fashioned way when d&d beyond is but a memory, and all your digital content ceases to exist.
A la cart is not the only thing that's gone forever, my subscription is too.
The loss of a la carte purchases is a disappointment, though I must say I was always confused by them being offered in the first place. They would be losing a lot of money to transaction fees by selling individual items at such low prices, it always seemed really weird that they were doing that. I'm curious just how many people actually used that feature vs. purchasing entire books? Perhaps it wasn't actually all that popular a feature?
Even losing that little bit to transaction fees or not selling a whole book they would be making alot of money they otherwise wouldn’t be making. I don’t want to spend $50-$60 on a book (and there’s a lot of books). I don’t give a fig about the lore or magic items and stuff. I want the subclasses, races, feats & backgrounds. So I won’t spend $50 on a book but a few bucks here and there on those other things. Multiply that but the tens of thousands who do the same thing and that’s a buttload of dollars they wouldn’t have gotten otherwise
Agreed, no SRD needed… I'm new’ish to D&D and we can find this everywhere just by a quick search.
Would rather hear your thoughts on other content
Regarding levels at which you get subclasses-- I thought they went back on the "all at L3" thing. I believe they're sticking with the current (2014) setup for gaining subclasses.
They went back on all classes having the exact same subclass progression, but subclasses at Level 3 stayed
What was the Lord Soth AI reference? I missed this one, and Google searching isn't showing me anything related to it.
C'mon there's plenty of room over on the pathfinder boat with all us cool kids
I found out about a la carte purchasing last night when I went to buy some subclasses and races and realized I couldn’t. I don’t have the means to buy expensive digital books I have no use for, but I can throw a few bucks to grab a couple of a la carte pieces I need. This basically means that I just can’t buy things as I need them, and that really sucks! And them making us reach out to customer service to get our discount on things we’ve bought in part before? That reeks of them hoping that people just won’t bother and will pay for the same thing twice, multiple times, just so that they don’t have to hassle with reaching out to customer service again and again and again.
The options to buy individual items was nice but I rarely used it a few of the times I did was when they made a individual item that you would need to buy individually (ie one grund above, tortle package, domains of delight) but later they rolled those into other books. There is good and bad with all of this the bad is it again makes it required to have the latest thing you need to buy a whole book but it will be better or the market as a whole because you don't see any other 5e publishers allowing ala carte of their products and WoTC is not about to make it so they have a lower profit on their developed materials than another publishers with the addition of several publishers to DDB I think it was going to be a matter of time before ala carte was going to be removed and it will be for the best going forward to allow more and more publishers to access the market that has been growing in DDB.
I worked my way up to the Legendary Bundle I only get whole books at this point. Now when I get new books is based on my interest/need or maybe later if it goes on sale. The weak campaign setting rules for Spelljammer followed by OGL fiasco led me to put my D&D campaigns on hold and switch systems. I am slightly hopeful 5E revised. I’ve come to the conclusion WotC can’t write a good campaign book without Keith Baker
The Legendary Bundle isn't even available on the marketplace anymore!
The minute WOTC acquired d&d beyond I divested myself from any reliance on it. Since then I’ve started dming for a new group who I immediately introduced to the wonders of dungeon masters vault and it’s wonderfully supportive community.
They could have fixed the character sheet support for Tasha's classes by now. They could have improved the homebrew tools by now. But no, they have been coding a new, worse marketplace instead while the issues with the character vault persist. Not another cent from me.
It should be dual licensed like SRD 5.1
So with the 5.2 srd going into creative commons this means in February of 2025 or march your favorite vtt like roll 20 dnd beyond will be allow to post and enter the 2024 classes and one base subclass in to there character creator for free. You can use all the 2024 classes and mechanics without spending a penny. For some this wont matter because as soon as the 2024 phb goes on pre-order im preordering it ill have it for dnd beyond. But for people on the fence about the new books it will allow them to get taste of them before making that purchase.
I heard the new vecna book is just a re done version of die vecna die in older editions. Having not played the older editions anyone have a take on this ?
One other thing we lost on the new markeplace: the compedium option. If you don't care about all the character sheet and encounter building crap DDB has and you only want the actual content, you could buy the compendium version of the book at a pretty good discount. Rather than 30$ for an adventure, I could pay 20$ and still have the whole book (well, when they actually include the whole thing).
Now? Nope, gotta pay the full price and buy product you don't want.
So what you saying is: All DnD now begins ad level 3 as there no reason to play Level 1 or 2 anymore.
One thing about individual purchase with Tasha is that Optional Features was only unlocked if you purchased the entire book + Let's not forget stuff in that book still need fix.
lol I always laugh when I see someone say “there’s no reason to play at low levels”. Tells me they don’t really have the grasp of a characters experiences shaping their path. You might set out with a particular build in mind. But stuff that happens can absolutely change how you want to shape your character. It’s happened in my games. I will always start a campaign at level 1. It’s great to see how players make their character growth decisions based on my world
Yep.
Just look for homebrew or create your own.
Fingers crossed for the artificer to be in the SRD.
Only the flavor text is under copyright. The rest is not.
@@armorclasshero2103 The base class is not part of the SRD so you can not make subclasses for it as a 3rd party publisher. We are hoping that will change in 5.2
@@GMToolbox wrong. You can make as many subclasses you want. That's not how copyright works, and you can't copyright a class. Only the flavor text can be copyright.
@@GMToolbox incorrect. Only flavor text is under copyright.
@@armorclasshero2103 Well crap. Someone should tell every single 3rd party publisher that because they all seem to think they can not create subclasses for Artificer because it is not part of the SRD. They do make up their own versions of the base class and call it something else with different tweaks (flavor text) but they don't make artificer subclasses.
Magic & D&D aren't "just" 2 of their brands. They're the 2 brands that make 99% of all Hasbro's profits.
Well i guess i will just create the sub classes and feats in homebrew, its a inconveince but i can make do
as far as monsters, races and what not go wizards doesnt hold allot of the copy rights for them, like "vampire" is free to use as its in the public domain. wizards created very few unique ones. they did try and gain ownershp of some fan made monsters but they didnnt win any rights to them as they only owned the rights to the mechanics not the actual content, so they owned the d20 system used but but the monster names and lore remained the property of the fans, some of which did sign over their rights to them.
"All subclasses start at lvl 3"
.... sorcerers scratch their heads
Well again, in the 2024 rulebook sorcerers will choose their subclass at level 3
@NerdImmersion I only recently started playing 5e. And I'm playing a sorcerer lol. But it seems funny, and doesn't make any sense, that a sorcerer wouldn't know how they stumbled upon magic until lvl 3.
Honestly, I'm sure it will make sense. But coming From the 5e perspective it doesn't
@@jwmmitch Some probably will know where their power came from in advance, they just don't get unique benefits from the origin until level 3. And other sorcerers might play out like the start of harry potter where magic is just Happening and they have no clue what or why it's doing that XD
I really hope that change doesn't apply to all classes...
Like, it is a reasonable idea for most classes, but Warlocks only choosing a Patron at lvl. 3 just sounds... *wierd.*
@@Ryliath Yes it is admittedly most weird for Warlocks, but arguably it was weird for Paladins not to truly swear their Oath until level 3 too, and that's been the case since 2014.
You could rule Warlocks the same way here - the rituals they have taken so far are merely steps of initiation, the first dregs of power before the patron even bothers to fully empower them or suchlike.
Removing a la carte purchases from DNDB is just the next Frieza form. We're not yet at the final form. This was always their plan.
For the A-la-carte issue: all they have to do is stop putting player stuff in my dm book and vice versa!
But how will they get players to but a DM book? But yeah, i agree with you completely on this. It's OK to just have player or just DM books
@@NerdImmersionthey make two products at 65ish% of what a full book would cost. Offer them as a bundle on DnD Beyond for a reduced priced of the two combined. People would likely buy both if they ever DM and it would be viewed as a deal. I think they can’t do this though mainly because there isn’t enough content to split it in half and still to warrant purchases.
@@KingSwiftieTV I think there is enough for them to be split. It's a matter of pricing it correctly. Perhaps not the physical book but it would be very easy digitally.
As a collector of Transformers, it's difficult to want to hate on Hasbro. As a DM and player, they are making it easy to hate on Hasbro... shame. It's difficult to hear about under monetization while C suite gets multimillion dollar bonuses.
Profit at the expense of value. This seems to be the future of Hasbro’s DnD.
I do appreciate the boost to indie developers that these continued poor corporate decisions result in. Thanks Hasbro, I guess?
Incorrect. Stat blocks are math, which is NOT subject to copyright.
The OGL fiasco solidified my decision to not get a subscription to DDB, though I have enjoyed using the free version. There have been several books that I only wanted certain features of that I have no interest in buying the whole book for. The removal of the a la carte options means that I will not be using it for any of my games going forward.
OGL recap and what-comes-next sounds like an incredible idea.
Bring back a la carte!
I hate that the a 'la carte is gone, that was a dumb change and it fit perfectly into their bullshit that dnd was under monetized.
So instead undermonetized we get overmonetized poorly 🤔
@@backonlazer791 I agree, this is a bad move for them and will greatly affect my purchasing from them as a whole. They have not been releasing enough good material to warrant an entire book purchase even at a discounted price.
The giant book had one piece of AI modified art that was done by the artist. It was replaced in the digital copy and any reprints going forward. It is the only AI art i know of in a DnD book.
the new marketplace also took away payment options like Paypal. allegedly they are working on correcting this.
I'm glad they did mention the old edition SRDs. Even if it's a joke they haven't been able to get at least the 3.5 SRD out by now (unless their plan is to expand on is significantly before release, of course).
Oh well, I guess I will remain hopeful I'll get to play BG3 some day (no money to WOTC untill SRD3.5 is out under CC).
So, WotC went the Mongoose Publishing route where MRQ became legends...bland d&d SRD.
To be frank, have not used Beyond for a while, the fact it no longer functions like I tunes doesn't case me. It's content, or lack of therof. Take Planescape, I ran a high-quality and was requested how do I play such and such a race.which has yet to be officially published, or was disclosed in 1-2 books previously published yet now discontinued,replaced by a suitcase collection that no longer covers them.
Related to this the Lord for certain races like the Crow who were now outside of Menzoberrenzen not inherently twisted and evil. That there are now two types of Crow it's a minor niggle in the Forgotten Realms which is irritating so I ignored, stating they are openly distrusted as a surface of elves.
I say ignored, because I haven't stepped back into D&D for some time or online, except for Baldurs Gate 3 and the infinity engine games on Beamdog.
From a player's perspective, I will never buy GM content in order to get access to player content. They are going to lose a lot of microtransactions. Good News, I play Pathfinder (remaster) now and I don't need DnD Beyond for anything anymore.
Artists better start diversifying their skills and resumes. Technology advances and industries are impacted. When Walmart revolutionized retail, locally owned mom and pop grocers had no choice but to modify and adjust their lives. Same thing happened with the invention of automobiles. Automobiles impacted horse ranchers, ferriers and black smiths. Automation advancement have taken place since the start of the industrial age so idk why everyone is up in arms about AI art. Do we really think we can bully companies into paying money for something they can practically do for free, forever?
There's no point in rebuilding brand trust. I gave it away to other brands already.
I don't know if I would call the à la carte removal bad, definitely inconvenient. I own pretty much everything on DDB, and rarely bought anything a la carte. Saying that I do realize the usability for other people. Maybe this is something that they will roll back if there is enough outcry.
Thing is, if you wanted just monsters, it would be way cheaper to buy only them instead of having to buy the entire setting/campaign book.
that breakdown video with the lawyer could be very interesting
I don't know. I myself, for one, cannot believe that people can't see the difference between human generated art and A.I. generated art. Maybe it's because I was born in the late 1980's and therefore able to notice the differences between reality and fantasy/digital. They don't call us millennials "The Digital Natives" for nothing. Our senses are attuned to such things while keeping one foot firmly planted in reality.
Sure, someone might be able to draw in the same manner or style as A.I. But that doesn't make it A.I. generated because artists have always taken inspiration wherever they can get it. There are still tells that give it away as human generated art even though it uses the same style. On a different note. Still allowing purchases of physical books is a good thing.
And also making the SRD 5.2 copyrighted under the CC-BY-SA 4.0 is a good move. It's what's best moving forward and if they hold to these promises I might return to D&D 5E come February of the upcoming year. But if they ever try a stunt like that again, such as they did two times already with 4E or the OGL, I will be gone for good to never look back. 4E was strike one, the OGL was strike two, so don't make me question you a third time is all I have to say on the matter. Grant it 4E did have a lot of good things.
Such as what we seen ported over to 5E from it even though a lot of it was just renamed to something different. A former designer of the game that's no longer with WoTC, one who was let go as of last December, said they couldn't figure out how people wouldn't accept what was in 4E but then turned around and accepted it in 5E. Here's my explanation. 4E was not D&D, not even remotely close to it, and again I say it felt way to close to home as a video game which limited its capabilities. And moreover, nobody then and nobody now, wants to go completely digital.
We millennials are the largest generation on this earth now, and we see something like a pdf as a useful resource when in need of it and also as a backup if something were to happen to our physical copy of which we would soon replace if something did happen to it, but everything going completely digital should not be the future and therefore has nothing to do with nostalgia when wanting and needing to have physical copies. Still to this day, you may see me do something like some research on the internet but not all and primarily through books, but rather than using a word processor I instead write notes and whatever else in composition journals and binders. As I said earlier, one foot firmly planted in reality, while the other is firmly planted in the digital world. And we know the difference and understand the balance that needs to be had between the two. And again, as I said before, this has nothing to do with nostalgia. It's about balance, and the ability to leverage your power as a consumer of the product, and more.
And as for the final, and least pressing matter here to me, D&D Beyond. Maybe now people will realize and understand what we millennials have been warning you about this entire time. If you go completely digital you will then coincidentally loose all control over everything. See how they just made those changes on the website and how quite a few of you out there are not happy about a la carte? Yeah, this is exactly what we have been saying this entire time and if you allow them to go completely digital and you continue to become completely reliant on it, they will continue to push for absolute control over how you purchase and what you purchase and where you play and how you play.
the Marketplace change is garbage and bullshit, push that shit back Hasbro, thanks for the heads up!
D&D beyond marketplace just further shows WOTC hates friendly local game stores.
Here we go again...
Removing the ability to purchase individual elements of a book sucks. I believe it's probably because they're expanding their product line, partnering with all sorts of 3rd-party creators, and that's already making everything complicated. More 3rd-party content is great, but coming at the cost of no a la carte purchases feels like a kick in the shin.
But having to contact customer support to get a discount you're entitled to feels likepunch in the gut. Any discount should be automatically applied to the purchase of any full book I own a piece of the content of. It should not be on me to get what I deserve.
Hasbro/WOTC are going the route of third party to:
1. Shut up the loud detractors of the OGL by hiring them (ie. Dungeon Dudes, Ginny Di, etc).
2. Wizbro fired their designers, I suppose it’s cheaper to license the content from the Dungeon Dudes and Humblewood now instead of hiring another team. 🤷🏻♂️
I just don't get why it costs me 70.00 dollars for a physical and digital bundle. I can buy 3rd party, independent publisher books for half the price or more and get a free pdf version of the book. I don't see anything getting any better for the customer. Soon, you will see players having to pay to use D&D Beyond in campaigns. I won't buy any more books from them.
Corporate greed is the answer.
WotC still lying! They said they would expand on the content sent to creative Commons specifically the artificer class. It's been over a year and they have not added a damn thing!
I'm foolishly hoping for a surprise inclusion in the 2024 PHB
Booo getting rid of a la carte purchases!
Yeah I was pretty upset, I cancelled my subscription. Concerning the market changes. I hope they reverse it. Feels anti consumer.
Ewww. Lots of folks wil be using 5E tools more if they get rid of itemized.
I don't trust Hasbro one iota, especially on the use of AI art. They will go full AI for writing and art. If not tomorrow, it won't be in the far flung future, either.
Yup
Nope. Not interested in stirring up the OGL pot agzin.
Fs in chat for all people who bought Silvery Barbs but not Strixhaeven.
I do have some sympathy for them on this though. If they were the Dungeon Dudes, Kobold Press or an even smaller creator talking about how people don't want to buy their whole book, just a few magic items or spells, we'd be all nodding along saying yeah, that sucks.
The removal of Al a cart is terrible. It's my one encouraging thing to get people to use DnD beyond.
I buy what my players need or want instead of dumping twice the cost on physical and digital.
It's not worth it.
Taking away the A La Carte options is the biggest garbage since AI. Its been my biggest way to convince new players to try things out and join. Tgis is 100% going to make people spend less money and invite piracy.
weekly wotc dissapointment. #wotc moment. come join us in pathfinder land. things are great.
They want to microtransaction but take away microtransactions?
**smacks forehead**
Wish they would make up their minds about how they want to abuse their customers.
They want micro-transactions that is good value for them not us.
Just a reminder. No matter what Nerd Immersion or WotC say. You can not copyright rules and rulesets. You can not copyright a statblock. You can not copyright a subclass. If you wish to create a subclass without including the SRD, OGL or whatever else. WotC are not in the legal right to sue you.
Just don’t use any copyrighted words and things in it, and you are golden
Also a reminder: "Not having the legal right" does not stop WOTC from suing you if they want to (or sending cease and desist).
When fighting the power, remember "the power" doesn't fight fair. Take necessary precautions and CYA.
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Just to clarify.
While what is said here is technically true, there is a lot of grey area here so the SRD takes out a lot of ambiguity on what you can use.
Sure you can go around and use thing without Wotz permission and it could be fine. It can also get mired in legal procedure or you might need to hire a lawyer to determine what you can or cannot do. The SRD is something for the people that want to add things as a hobby. Not for the ones making entire companies to release books of content and can hire lawyers to make sure they are not crossing the line of ambiguity on top of being able to hire a legal team to fend off attempts at keeping your work out of public through legal procedures.
I don't like the previous a la carte purchases, the individual items cost more than the overall package.
Unless you were to bundle all the items at once, all the subclasses or all the monsters.
The individual purchases would go towards the overall price. You could never pay more than the whole item price but you could purchase the sections you're interested in. If you ever wanted to go back and buy the whole release it would be discounted by the amount you've already spent on it.
@@rpgfamiliar ah, kinda makes sense, but I was too afraid to buy individual items
Boy, Hasbro is still trying as hard as possible to drive people away from D&D, huh?
Absolutely the worst thing to happen to D&D Beyond since it went live. Terrible decision by WotC.