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The Math of 70 Weeks of Daniel 9: End of the Jewish Nation’s Probation/Evangelical End Time Error
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- Can you discern Truth from error? Do you know when the Daniel 9 prophecy starts? Join Truth Matters hosts Matthew Schanche and MacKenzie Drebit for a straightforward study on Daniel 9, the 70-week prophecy, and how it relates to current events of church and state. This episode emphasizes the importance of understanding different perspectives and comparing them to scripture in order to find Truth.
Throughout the series, experts from diverse religious backgrounds provide insights into their interpretations of the 70-week prophecy. Today, they're examining it from the Jewish perspective, exploring historical evidence and comparing it to scripture. When did it begin? When does it end?
It is important to note that the impact of the Daniel 9 prophecy is not limited to just Christians; it affects the entire world, regardless of religion. Truth Matters aims to equip you with the tools to establish truth for yourself, particularly in validating Bible prophecy and its true timeline. Can the Jewish perspective of the 70-week prophecy be fully supported by the Bible? Find out in this Truth Matters!
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Praise the Lord. May our good Lord bless your ministry. I really look forward to how you clearly counter false teachings. It is as important as knowing the truth.
Oh brother. SDA yet again.
May I make a suggestion.
Use more graphics or on a dry erase board and go step by step with these dates to tie them together.
Also a study guide of some sort? I take a lot of notes and go back over the videos many times but it’s still helpful to have visuals.
Thank you so much for your amazing discovery ministries. I’ve listened to Walter Veith for years. He is brilliant in his analysis of the secret societies that control world events.
God bless your ministry and never give up. We need this more then ever as the details of this great controversy are unraveled as we enter the end of time.
Come Lord Jesus!
Just came across this video. I’m so glad that you’re talking about this because I definitely felt the same way. Reading multiple different Bible accounts. I always wondered a lot of what could happen in my life because godly people wasn’t spared plenty of times with several different instances. I want an accurate understanding because that’s what matters to me. I wanna know what the truth is. Is.
Blessed Sabbath!
I love the way you tackle this. It is systematic and logical. Thank you.
Oh yeah! Awesome work, discussion, insights, etc! The truth never ends, and weeding through satan's distortions. Thank you guys! ❤
I am so excited to see you talking about dates and breaking down the timeline. I have spent several years mapping a timeline using jubilee periods, based off the book of Jubilee's, the Bible, and the Dead Sea Scrolls. I'm pretty sure Adventist don't regard those texts, but I have been able to streamline a timeframe using those sources and basing events that happen within a jubilee period and using AM (Annu Mondi). For example: In Jub 48:1: "…And thou didst return into Egypt in the 2nd week in the 2nd year in the 50th jubilee." Jub 50:4: "…there are 49 jubilees from the days of Adam until this day, and 1 week and 2 years and there are yet 40 years to come…" So we know a jubilee period is 49 years, with simple math and the knowledge that there are 7 weeks in a jubilee period, and each week is 7 years, which makes Jub 50:4 to be the year 2410 AM (49 years x 49th jubilee = 2401 + (1 week = 7 years) = 2408 + 2 years = 2410 AM. In 1 Kings 6:1: we are given another number to add to the timeline; "And it came to pass in the 480th year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the 4th year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month zif, which is the 2nd month, that he began to build the house of Yahuah." I find it reasonable (unless someone else has additional information) to conclude that the 480th year in 1 Kings 6:1, would be counted from the 2410 AM date which makes it the year 2890 AM. From that point we can use the years provided in the bible for the judges and the kings, etc., to map out an accurate timeline. Another piece of the timeline puzzle can be found in the Dead Sea Scrolls: 11Q13 "The Coming of Melchizedek" The scroll states: "This word will thus come in the first week of the jubilee period that follows nine jubilee periods. Then the "Day of Atonement" shall follow at the end of the tenth jubilee period, when he shall atone for all the sons of light and the people who are predestined to Melchizedek..." 10 jubilee periods is 490 years. If I understand the Bible correctly, Jesus began his ministry on the Day of Atonement. Our Gregorian dates have been a stumbling block to correspond the AM dates to our dates. Thank you for providing this content it helps me tremendously in my research. God Bless.
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What transgression are we talking about, what sins are we talking about, putting an end to what sins, whose faults will be paid, all these questions referring to Daniel's prayer that are referring to the sins of Daniel's people referring to sins, transgressions, faults who took the people into Babylonian captivity, if they had not committed these offenses against the law of Moses they would never have been taken into captivity.
What sins would be spied on are the sins of Daniel's people, so the prophecy applies to these sins. Now just do the calculations to find the first half of the week and the second half of the week in space and time using good old math and logical reasoning. THE 70 weeks of Daniel, according to the angel, were to atone for the sins of Daniel's people, so it must be applied to the sins of Daniel's people.
How this is done, through two calculations, one with the decree of Artaxerxes, to calculate the arrival of the anointed, the last week is related to Daniel's prayer, the forgiveness for the sins they committed during the first covenant, Jesus fulfills the first half of this week which refers to the first covenant (do not think that I came to destroy the law and the prophets not to destroy but I came to fulfill) then he tore the veil that separated the Gentiles from the Israelites, and established the new covenant, this last week The boldness of Cyrus' decree of the year 536, BC must be calculated by applying the time intervals that the prophecy indicates.
Year 1866 before Christ, year of the covenant with Abraham, (calculated) or sacrifice of Isaac, after 1260 years of sins that Daniel's people committed against the law of Moses, which were atoned for by Jesus over a period of 1260 days or half of a week of 7 years, because according to the prophecy of Ezekiel chapter 4 verses 4 to 7 for each year of sin that the people of Jerusalem committed they would be atoned for one day, reaching the year of the beginning of the Babylonian captivity, in the year 606 BC, after a period of 70 years of Babylonian captivity reaching the year of Cyrus' decree that decreed the release of captives and the reconstruction of the temple in 536 BC, then we had a period of 49 years for reconstruction of the temple and a period of 434 years until the arrival and baptism of Jesus in the Jordan River.
From the baptism of Jesus, until his death, there were a total of 1260 days or half a week of 7 years, which Jesus himself said he came to fulfill the law and the prophets, or fulfill the first covenant and establish the second covenant .(sins of Daniel's people) Jesus did not atone for the sins of the Gentiles, because the Gentiles did not make a sacrifice or food offering, the prophecy is very clear, in the sense of saying that the sins that would be atoned for would be the sins against the law of Moses sins of Daniel's people and the Holy city, even because the Gentiles were never under the law of Moses and were not part of Jerusalem. Understanding these aspects of the prophecy, we know that the desolation of Jerusalem by Babylon would last 70 years, which happened in the period from 606 BC to 536 BC. then the angel said it would last a week or 7, for the restoration of Jerusalem.
A week of 7 years has a total of 2520 days, taking into account Jesus' sacrifice for a week and in the middle of the week he stopped the sacrifice and the food offering, and that for each year of the people's sin they would be spied on by a day, so a week has a total of 2520 years and not 490 years, as is wrongly calculated. ruclips.net/video/Vg4beucjkNs/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/XhtI7tyJnxc/видео.html
cronologiab.blogspot.com/p/2-de-abraao-ao-exodo.html chronology used.
ruclips.net/video/uhKWA28iwCI/видео.html ‘’ the Beasts.
@@adrianojosedasilva7 Thank you for responding with your information and input. However, I am using the calendar as provided in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the book of Jubilees, I'm counting Jubilee periods using Annu Mondi dates and trying to match jubilee periods to our Gregorian BC dates. The scrolls do not calculate a week as 2520 years, a week is 7 years. I'm a little perplexed on your talking about the Gentiles, I made no mention of gentiles, nor is that word mentioned in the DSS 11Q13, it says to atone for the sons of light. The Zadok calendar, which I am using in my calculations, is the calendar that is detailed in the DSS, the one that the writers protected and rebuked the Pharisee's for changing the calendar as they followed the moon's course (as the Babylonian's) instead of the solar calendar. The calendar was of utmost important to the priests that kept the calendar, so they would not error and celebrate a holy day on an unholy day. God Bless
Parabéns pela sua boa pesquisa, muito boa. Deus abençoe.
Could you create a separate playlist for these particular videos?.thanks!
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What transgression are we talking about, what sins are we talking about, putting an end to what sins, whose faults will be paid, all these questions referring to Daniel's prayer that are referring to the sins of Daniel's people referring to sins, transgressions, faults who took the people into Babylonian captivity, if they had not committed these offenses against the law of Moses they would never have been taken into captivity.
What sins would be spied on are the sins of Daniel's people, so the prophecy applies to these sins. Now just do the calculations to find the first half of the week and the second half of the week in space and time using good old math and logical reasoning. THE 70 weeks of Daniel, according to the angel, were to atone for the sins of Daniel's people, so it must be applied to the sins of Daniel's people.
How this is done, through two calculations, one with the decree of Artaxerxes, to calculate the arrival of the anointed, the last week is related to Daniel's prayer, the forgiveness for the sins they committed during the first covenant, Jesus fulfills the first half of this week which refers to the first covenant (do not think that I came to destroy the law and the prophets not to destroy but I came to fulfill) then he tore the veil that separated the Gentiles from the Israelites, and established the new covenant, this last week The boldness of Cyrus' decree of the year 536, BC must be calculated by applying the time intervals that the prophecy indicates.
Year 1866 before Christ, year of the covenant with Abraham, (calculated) or sacrifice of Isaac, after 1260 years of sins that Daniel's people committed against the law of Moses, which were atoned for by Jesus over a period of 1260 days or half of a week of 7 years, because according to the prophecy of Ezekiel chapter 4 verses 4 to 7 for each year of sin that the people of Jerusalem committed they would be atoned for one day, reaching the year of the beginning of the Babylonian captivity, in the year 606 BC, after a period of 70 years of Babylonian captivity reaching the year of Cyrus' decree that decreed the release of captives and the reconstruction of the temple in 536 BC, then we had a period of 49 years for reconstruction of the temple and a period of 434 years until the arrival and baptism of Jesus in the Jordan River.
From the baptism of Jesus, until his death, there were a total of 1260 days or half a week of 7 years, which Jesus himself said he came to fulfill the law and the prophets, or fulfill the first covenant and establish the second covenant .(sins of Daniel's people) Jesus did not atone for the sins of the Gentiles, because the Gentiles did not make a sacrifice or food offering, the prophecy is very clear, in the sense of saying that the sins that would be atoned for would be the sins against the law of Moses sins of Daniel's people and the Holy city, even because the Gentiles were never under the law of Moses and were not part of Jerusalem. Understanding these aspects of the prophecy, we know that the desolation of Jerusalem by Babylon would last 70 years, which happened in the period from 606 BC to 536 BC. then the angel said it would last a week or 7, for the restoration of Jerusalem.
A week of 7 years has a total of 2520 days, taking into account Jesus' sacrifice for a week and in the middle of the week he stopped the sacrifice and the food offering, and that for each year of the people's sin they would be spied on by a day, so a week has a total of 2520 years and not 490 years, as is wrongly calculated. ruclips.net/video/Vg4beucjkNs/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/XhtI7tyJnxc/видео.html
cronologiab.blogspot.com/p/2-de-abraao-ao-exodo.html chronology used.
ruclips.net/video/uhKWA28iwCI/видео.html ‘’ the Beasts.
Of course God would let His people go through this! It is THE ultimate trial of one's faith! The early Christians were martyred in the coliseums...and what about the Dark Ages? All those true Christians were brutally tortured and burned at the stake! To me, these were the "ultimate Christians " and therefore if God didn't take them out of here, why would He do it today???
Exactly, spot on. People are so blinded and they only have a westernized American perspective of Christianity. There are many saints going through horrible persecutions right now in China and in Muslim countries etc. people just don't use their heads and are very selfish thinking the American church is the only church in the world ever and since we haven't seen persecutiin we never will because God "loves us too much to allow that to happen to us".
They need a major wakeup call
More importantly a witness
Gods wrath is NOT persecution. Totally different.
@@poochz2Could you please expound further?
@@prayerpower1585 God removed Abraham from Sodom and removed Noah from the land. God will not pour his wrath on His children. We will have tribulation and persecution from man, but not the wrath of God. Abraham and Noah were removed from the area of wrath. The entire earth will be the area of wrath, there will be no place to go except up. Show me a case where God poured out his wrath on his people. You won’t find it.
They (Futurists) more specifically say that we will not be here because God would not pour His wrath on His own children.
Then I’ve replied, that is based on the belief that the tribulation is acts from God. However, I believe (as do others ) that it is Satan causing havoc and troubles during the GT. Not God. Then i say that the Bible says God’s wrath is not poured out until the end portion of that time of GT. And not until the saints are sealed, as they are instructed to not harm the trees, grass etc. until Gods ppl are sealed. And I refer to them Rev. And explain that it is the repeat (parallel) of Ezek 8 and 9.
If you are someone who wants real and proper confirmation of the 70 weeks prophecy all in a complete 1hr video, then on this same channel go to playlists and look for total onslaught titled "Jesus -Just another man or Son of God?". Prof. Veith goes through all this whilst simultaneously exposing the lies of both jews and atheists concerning the one and ONLY MESSIAH, JESHUA. The video is 58 minutes and some seconds long.
An excellent video.
@@johnjandoh6732 I give so much thanks for the Total Onslaught series. I STILL rewatch at least 1 of those many videos a week! I also love Repairing the Breach, from Crete to Malta, etc.; I never miss an episode of What's Ip Prof either!
That is the video that gave me the AHA! moment. My dad and I used to argue relentlessly about pre trib and post trib rapture, but I never had the final piece of the puzzle. The proper interpretation of the 70 weeks is the key to understanding propechy and if you can get post trib believers to see that it is not about the antichrist, but Jesus Himself, it can really challenge their view. In regards to showing them the errors of the futurist stance, this is the most important study.
Thank you!
Great video brothers! Hey how about using a whiteboard? The dates and math will be clearer.
Hi Where is the rest of this series?
Thank you so much. Another amazing video. 👏 May God bless all of you.
Good Job!!!!!!!! Few short sections when the audio and video were out of whack. This is about Matthew only! MacKenzie did not have this issue. It was fixed quickly. Thanks for that and THANKS for Truth Matters!
Pre- Trib view, I agree with. My faith does not depend on me but in Him( Jesus) Blessings of rightly dividing the Word of Truth.
They're going to destroy the truth in the next video you don't know who you're listening to! These people are SDA!
@@JamieElison I figured out they’re not Like I. I assumed SDA thinking is at play. Hey, I hope they’ll come to the Truth.
@@InHisHands777 have you ever studied how they got started. One verse out of Daniel 8. They can't interpret Daniel 8.. if their life depended on it. They took the 2,300 days and stuck them in the same place as they've got Daniel 9. The starting point of the 70 weeks.. and the math equation will not bring them to the end of the time. That they have established which is is October the 22nd in 1844.. they're not much different than Jehovah's witness!. They've got a( levite Jesus). going into a dirty sanctuary an cleansing it in heaven! and checking on each individual person and( investigating them ).from times past until the future .and then they said the (devil is doing the atonement) of Leviticus 16:10.! He is the sin bearer! So what you said it's got a long ways to go !and they will not listen to you when you tell them the truth. ! David koresh was one of the people from them in the past.
@@InHisHands777 they've got the devil doing their atonement of Leviticus 16:10 (he's the the sin bearer) you need to study up on what these people actually believe! David koresh was one of these people that broke off of this group. They're not much different than Mormons or Jehovah's witnesses. Not one prophecy that they teach in the Bible is the truth!
@@JamieElison Are SDA's really bad people? From what I know of them, they worship on the actual Biblical day, according to the Bible, and even Rome itself says they are worshipping on the correct day. What undeniable proof do you have they are going to destroy the truth in the next video? Are you a Prophet, or just someone posing as one here? GIVE PROOF!
I thank you for your videos. I appreciate the information on the other view points
You guys need to check out the video series on RUclips called "Messiah 2030". It's a solid overall presentation on the messianic timeline but more importantly, its interpretation of the 70 week prophecy in Daniel is somewhat in line with the SDA church. They use the same starting point with the 3 decree but they also incorporate the gap theory, very interesting to say the least. They've done a very thorough job with this entire series which must have taken months to complete. I think you'll find it very intriguing and worth your time to investigate.
Will check it out, thanks...
Fantastic show. Love this content and presentation
About time! They start opening up in prayer 🙏 hopefully now you'll start closing in prayer too 🙏
Thanks
agreed
1st yr of Nebuchadnezzar - 605 BC
8th yr of Nebuchadnezzar - 598 BC
19th yr of Nebuchadnezzar - 587 BC
Dan 12:11-12
the daily sacrifice was taken away from the first temple in the 8th yr of Nebuchadnezzar(2 Kings 24:8-16, 2 Chron 36:5-14, Dan 1:2)
598 BC + 1290 = 692(+1) 693 BC when the dome of the rock was erected on the temple mount + 1335 = 2028 AD
Rev 11:7-15 when they shall have finished their testimony(Tishri 2024 to Nisan 2028)
Good Sound Biblical Research.
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There is a reason why no one can pinpoint the exact date of Jesus’s return. God wants everyone to be ready for Jesus’s kingdom in heaven.
The old Assyrian calendar explains the creators calendar to be correct, we found in the book of Nicodemus. Babylon was also lost in the timeline by having a week with 10 days. 30 days in a month was until Yahushuas (Jesus) crucifixion. Yah changed times we read in 📖 Dan 2;21.
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What transgression are we talking about, what sins are we talking about, putting an end to what sins, whose faults will be paid, all these questions referring to Daniel's prayer that are referring to the sins of Daniel's people referring to sins, transgressions, faults who took the people into Babylonian captivity, if they had not committed these offenses against the law of Moses they would never have been taken into captivity.
What sins would be spied on are the sins of Daniel's people, so the prophecy applies to these sins. Now just do the calculations to find the first half of the week and the second half of the week in space and time using good old math and logical reasoning. THE 70 weeks of Daniel, according to the angel, were to atone for the sins of Daniel's people, so it must be applied to the sins of Daniel's people.
How this is done, through two calculations, one with the decree of Artaxerxes, to calculate the arrival of the anointed, the last week is related to Daniel's prayer, the forgiveness for the sins they committed during the first covenant, Jesus fulfills the first half of this week which refers to the first covenant (do not think that I came to destroy the law and the prophets not to destroy but I came to fulfill) then he tore the veil that separated the Gentiles from the Israelites, and established the new covenant, this last week The boldness of Cyrus' decree of the year 536, BC must be calculated by applying the time intervals that the prophecy indicates.
Year 1866 before Christ, year of the covenant with Abraham, (calculated) or sacrifice of Isaac, after 1260 years of sins that Daniel's people committed against the law of Moses, which were atoned for by Jesus over a period of 1260 days or half of a week of 7 years, because according to the prophecy of Ezekiel chapter 4 verses 4 to 7 for each year of sin that the people of Jerusalem committed they would be atoned for one day, reaching the year of the beginning of the Babylonian captivity, in the year 606 BC, after a period of 70 years of Babylonian captivity reaching the year of Cyrus' decree that decreed the release of captives and the reconstruction of the temple in 536 BC, then we had a period of 49 years for reconstruction of the temple and a period of 434 years until the arrival and baptism of Jesus in the Jordan River.
From the baptism of Jesus, until his death, there were a total of 1260 days or half a week of 7 years, which Jesus himself said he came to fulfill the law and the prophets, or fulfill the first covenant and establish the second covenant .(sins of Daniel's people) Jesus did not atone for the sins of the Gentiles, because the Gentiles did not make a sacrifice or food offering, the prophecy is very clear, in the sense of saying that the sins that would be atoned for would be the sins against the law of Moses sins of Daniel's people and the Holy city, even because the Gentiles were never under the law of Moses and were not part of Jerusalem. Understanding these aspects of the prophecy, we know that the desolation of Jerusalem by Babylon would last 70 years, which happened in the period from 606 BC to 536 BC. then the angel said it would last a week or 7, for the restoration of Jerusalem.
A week of 7 years has a total of 2520 days, taking into account Jesus' sacrifice for a week and in the middle of the week he stopped the sacrifice and the food offering, and that for each year of the people's sin they would be spied on by a day, so a week has a total of 2520 years and not 490 years, as is wrongly calculated. ruclips.net/video/Vg4beucjkNs/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/XhtI7tyJnxc/видео.html
cronologiab.blogspot.com/p/2-de-abraao-ao-exodo.html chronology used.
ruclips.net/video/uhKWA28iwCI/видео.html ‘’ the Beasts.
Thanks as always.
Great, now isolate the 3 times given, determine a starting and closing date for each of them
70 weeks and 10 Jubilee’s are 500 years. Started on the 135th jubilee 1968. The people freed the holy city 1967 and proclaimed with the shofar 🎷on the day of atonement, the upcoming jubilee, the last 500 years of our Äon started in spring 1968. 💕 greetings from TuneWest Community in Switzerland 🇨🇭
The jubilee is the 50th year which is also the first year of the next 49. The jubilee is not a separate year. It’s a base 49 system of 7x7 not a base 50 system
Didn’t Jesus come at the very end of the 69th. Week? Didn’t his ministry fulfilled the first half of the Seventh week leavings 3 1/2 years?
In the middle of that week Christ was crucified and the last half or 3 1/2 weeks of the prophecy, Steven was stoned to death signifying the rejection of the gospel by the Jews. This is why Jesus said, your house is left to you desolate. The gospel was then taken to the Gentiles.
Yeah Steven was stoned in 34 AD I believe, putting an end to the remaining 3 1/2 years of the final week
If I understand your question correctly, yes, Christ ministry as the "Messiah" began at his baptism by John the baptist and ended at his crucifixion. This is why the prophecy states that he would be "Cut off" or killed in the middle of the week. The end of the prophetic last week or 7 years comes at the stoning of Stephen, which occurred approximately 3 1/2 years after Christ crucifixion. Hope fully this makes sense and answers your question.
The birth of Jesus began the last 70 years of the fiirst covenant..the final 3 and a half years of the siege and destruction of jerusalem and the temple are after the 7 th seventy years were completed...have a great day! 66 ad was the end of the seventieth 7, and he was cut off in the middle of the seventieth week.the desolations were determined until the end of the war. And the one made desolate was the apostate leadership in jerusalem... 😊
Amen & Amen.
When you obey R0m€'s commandment in substitution of God's Commandment, then you basically worship R0m£.
Daniel 7:25. Not only the Mark of the Beast Sunday but all the appointed gatherings Feasts and the Torah that’s what Times Moedim and Law Torah mean. God tells us explicity over and over in the OT and NT the Sabbath and Torah is his seal and sign from Ex 31:16,17 Ez 29:12,13 Duet 6:8 Mal 4 Jer 31:33 Rev 14:12 etc etc
Or the papacy 😎
@@philmiska7295 I wonder why Enoch, Noah, Abraham did not have the annual feasts?
Is there a way to explain the last 7 years that are in question without a 27 page dissertation or a 5 hour speech ?
This is where you lose so many people.
There should be a way , in layman's terms, to show the last 7 years of the prophecy is not some future event, but history.
This is the lynch pin of the rapture theology
Use logic.
If the Jews start the daily again, will they be right with God?
If not, why would God care if the A/C marches into the non existent temple and puts a stop to it?
He wouldn't.
"But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. " (1 Corinthians 2:9 KJV)
I would think that you do not lose sight of 2Peter 3: 8-9 with Ezekiel 4: 4-6 and the Jubilee concept to decipher the mystery of DANIEL'S 70 weeks accurately, ITS THAT SIMPLE, and was able to determine the years of birth (1AD) and death (34.5 AD) of YEHOSHUA.
The lines have been seriously blurred between Jew and Judean. Jesus was Judean. Not the same thing and this has already played a significant role in deceiving people
Deuteronomy 28 prophecy , the blessings and the curses that would follow the bloodline Isrealites , can You break that down ? Maybe we can look around and see who are these people in our society .
Proof the 70th week of Daniel was fulfilled in the past:
Based on Hebrews 12:22-24, the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26 cannot be separated from the New Covenant fulfilled by His blood at Calvary. See the words "church" and "mount Sion" and "new covenant" and "Jesus" and "blood" in the passage.
Are we supposed to believe the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant. Or, is the covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the many in Matthew 26:28? The 1599 Geneva Bible is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America, before John Darby showed up on our shores about the time of the Civil War. What was the earlier understanding of Daniel 9:27 found below in the notes of the 1599 Geneva Bible?
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Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate.
Daniel 9:27
And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.
(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.
(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.
It’s a two fold prophecy. The Geneva pieces you posted don’t show a change, it’s in how one reads it. It’s prophetic, hidden. Prophecy can’t be understood until it’s time of fulfillment, meaning any interpretations prior its fulfillment were nothing more than mens best guesses. Daniel 12 was sealed till the time of the end, yet today we have numerous doctrines on it.
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(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.
@@SpotterVideo what week was messiah cut off?
@@Jim-d1f If I agree to paint your house "after" 69 weeks, it will not be painted until the 70th week or later.
@@SpotterVideo and the abomination happened at the 1260th day, or second 3 1/2 years period?
THE DESTRUCTION OF JERUSALEM BY NEBUCHADNEZZAR CAME IN THREE STAGES :
1) 605 BC - Nebuchadnezzar overthrew King Jehoiakim and carried a small number of hostages (mostly royalty) including Daniel and the 3 Hebrew worthies (these stayed within Babylon) Daniel 1:1-2
2) 597 BC - Jehoiakim and his son Jehoiachin rebelled against their conqueror, compelling Nebuchadnezzar to return and force Jerusalem's surrender again.
At this second stage, he took ten thousand hostages, including EZEKIEL and King Jehoiakim's son, Jehoiakim (these stayed in the periphery of the city of Babylon)
3) 586 BC - Nebuchadnezzar ended a long siege of Jerusalem , destroying the city and scattered the remainder of the kingdom of Judah.
This 3rd stage of the destruction left Jerusalem desolate, a shell of a once-great city.
Would be also important to have poster or digital whiteboard where you can explain what these very clever date changers were up to. For example, if this date is selected true, then the outcome later will be this and therefore these people now believe this. If another date is selected as the truth, we will get this, and so on. Thanks in advance! ❤
That's what they are doing in this video! Listen again.
Your criticism of CHRISTIAN WIDNER’s view of a decree in 1531 AD is misunderstood. As he says in his book WITNESSING THE END he does support a decree of Artaxerxes 1 in 445/444 BC but he also realizes that as many prophecies have near/far fulfillment as well as multiple meanings; such as a prophecy that speaks about a historical person but is also applied to the Messiah. In Christians’s own words, “Multiple fulfillments may occur in different ways”.
My hope is that more believers would be aware of how close we are to the Messiah’s return!
You can watch his vids on RUclips. And be a Berean and study to show yourself approved. Maranatha!
Great conversation. However, Artaxerxes 1 who gave the 3rd decree was NOT Esther's husband. Xerxes 1, also known as Ahasuerus in the book of Esther, was the husband of Esther, between the time period of 485-464 BC. Artaxerxes 1 reigned between 464-424 BC, or there's about.
Have you ever considered Ezra 6:14-15? More, are 7, 62, 1 are additionned, juxtaposed or separated?
Yes speaking of outlandish ideas. This lunar Sabbath idea really takes the cake. What part of six days then the seventh do they not understand. There is NO reset day.
I do see a rapture I just don't know when. I'm kinds thinking maybe more than one. Don't hate on me, I'm learning and have a tbi. You guys are right on with a lot of this but I see small differences. Ezekiel 25, replace Ammon with American. That's coming, oh and Ezekiel 39:7 is when God evicts evil but it comes straight to America, it's been here but will be significantly stronger.
U should check out 2 videos and a series for more answers. Babylon to America and America 2 Babylon. By school for Prophets and The elephant in the room by Power of the Lamb or Ivor Myers not sure if it's an invidual upload...these will help u understand Just what u spoke.
Remember the old testament times was with the moon calendar an don't mix the moon vs the little horn calendar
In the middle of time (72nd Jubilee) Mose restored Yahs commandments in the marriage covenant on mount Horeb. Pentecost was on the same holy appointment, Yahushua (Jesus) baptism with the holy 🔥 fire, to go into the world, preaching the law and testimony. 📖 Rev 12;17
When was the rebuilding of the second Temple? When will be the rebuilding of the spiritual Temple in the end of our Äon? That was the sign of Jona given to the Pharisees, three days and three nights a 900 years = 2700 years. Was the start of the counting 450 BC?
The Vernal Equinox of 2030, marks the beginning of the Third, 1000-year Days of Heaven, since Jesus taught us, All men are brothers, love one another, and be perfect -- and was then crucified in the year we now call 30 AD. 2 Peter 3: 8 Matthew 5: 44-48. It brings the fulfillment of His resurrection, as Jesus, Himself, explains -- John 16: 7-15 -- when the Spirit of Truth -- not Jesus in the flesh -- comes to all who will receive that Spirit of Truth . . . and final judgement for the devil and dragon. Revelation 12: 12-13, Daniel 7: 9-14. We have been told SOONER.
09/23/26 is exactly 3.5 years sooner. It is the autumn equinox of the US' and the illuminati's 250th year. 10/10/26 is 42 new moons sooner.
If you seek a place to make your stand -- stand with the church of brotherly love -- Revelation 3: 6-12. We keep Jesus' commandments -- Matthew 22: 36-40, and have the Little Strength of the Rock -- Matthew 16: 17-18.
See also, Matthew 6: 5-8. Never before RIGHT NOW have so many educated people lived so freely and so abundantly.
I feel like I started out my journey with SDA material before I understand what that was and then I explored all these other eschatologies. Today I click on this expecting to hear some politically motivated theological silly stuff to mess around in the comments section on. Then I started to actually listen and realize over the years I was coming to the same conclusions and until today I didn’t realize sda held these views I thought I was alone hahah
The Jewish Torah that I have,published in 1902, does not have the Book of Daniel in it
The Torah does not consist of Daniel. It is the first 5 books of the Bible however, the bible is a cohesive book. All the themes are tied together..
@@peacefulslumber3104 Excuse me! I meant the Torah as well as the prophets, both major and minor.
I was just making the point that the Book of Daniel was not in their Holy Bible.
@@VickieDawn Oh, I understand now. I misunderstood. I am sorry.
Where does the phrase “moral law” appear in the Bible?
Where does the phrase rapture appear in the bible?
Isn't there a curse in the Talmud for any Jew to calulate the weeks of Daniel anyway?
That is probably true, they don't want the truth to be known about Jesus, the Messiah. They're not allowed to read the New Testament either as I understand.
The Babylonier started the new year in the fall, the Jews, Rosh Chodesh got lost 😩 in this knowledge. 📖 Hos 4;6. The new biblical year starts in the spring.
I am not convinced that Christian Widener's interpretation of Daniel's 70 weeks is correct, but you should not misrepresent his view ( at 20:20 in the video) without even understanding it. As you say, "Keep an open mind" and give legitimate criticism.
Daniel 9: 25.. (from the going (forth) of the (command)!.. Ezra chapter 7 verse 9. Ezra goes forth)! with the command. On the first day of the first month. Exodus 12:2!
That is the correct verse for the start of the prophecy.That time started in 457 B.C.Now you just need to do the math and remember there is no year 0!
How can I get a copy of ptolemy chart?
I found one on google images 👊
The four P's. There is a PEOPLE- There is a PLACE- There is a PLAN There is a time PERIOD. If you do not know what the 4 P's are you will not understand Prophecy. The people are the Jewish people. The place is Israel. The plan is that God never rejected his original people and this is all for the plan in this period of time. It is not the SDA- It is not about the United States- you can be a player- but do not interject yourself incorrectly.
If you use the Holy Bible to determine the dates, you will find that the first decree. (Cyrus) which was not in 538BC but 401BC. is the one that signalled the end of the 70years captivity.
1 In the first year of Cyrus king of the Persians, that the word of the Lord by the mouth of Jeremias might be fulfilled, the Lord stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of the Persians: and he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and in writing also, saying: 2 Thus saith Cyrus king of the Persians: The Lord the God of heaven hath given to me all the kingdoms of the earth, and he hath charged me to build him a house in Jerusalem, which is in Judea. 1st Book of Esdras (Ezra) 1:
The first year of his reign, I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, concerning which the word of the Lord came to Jeremias the prophet, that seventy years should be accomplished of the desolation of Jerusalem.
[Daniel 9:2]
To worship in spirit and truth, expect to understand Yahs holy appointments, 📖 Ezk 44;23-24. We lost the true Sabbaths of rest 📖 Lam 2;6. who is the sign and engagement ring 💍 with our savior Yahushua (Jesus). He will open our eyes 👀 if we repent 😢 Act 17;30. The feast Shawuot „Pentecost“, on the fifth new moon 🌙 day, will be this year 2024, July the sixth.
Dan 7:25 Moedim and Torah means sabbath and feasts and all the Torah. Plain Thus Saith the Lord
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Everyone forever has used Dan 9:27 as the fulfillment of the Matt 24 abomination. Dividing the last week (70th)/7 year period into two 1260 day periods.
Using Dan 9 alone makes the case to believe the 70 weeks were fulfilled in Jesus baptism and crucifixion/cut off (first 3 1/2), to various theories to complete the last 3 1/2.
It’s Daniel 12 that Jesus points to the abomination. Daniel times the abomination to the 1290th day, with a blessing at the 1335th day Dan 12:11-12, this messes up everyone’s math who use Dan 9, that’s why they don’t use Dan 12.
It’s dual meaning like all prophecy and parable. This leaves a last days 7 year period. Otherwise one has to mathematically change all the teachings based on Dan 9.
Where is it written WHEN 70 weeks prophesy starts?
The first half of Daniel 9:25 gives a clue on when the 70 prophetic weeks start, the part before it says 'Messiah the Prince'.
After the sixty ninth week, messiah shall come, and shall be cut off, but not for himself..in the middle of the 70th week he shall be cut off..the 70th week happened right after the 69th ended..read daniel again.
Wanna skip ahead? 2 Peter 3: 8 The Vernal Equinox of 2030, marks the beginning of the third, 1000-years Days of Heaven since Jesus was crucified in 30 AD*. It brings the fulfillment of His resurrection, as Jesus, Himself, explains -- John 16: 7-15 -- when the SPIRIT of TRUTH, not Jesus in the flesh, comes to all who will receive that Spirit . . . and final judgement for the devil and dragon. Revelation 12: 12-13 Daniel 7: 9-14. We have been told SOONER. 09/23/26 is exactly 3.5 years sooner. It's the autumn equinox of the US' and the illuminati's 250th year (1776-2026). 10/10/26 is 42 new moons sooner.
* I can't prove that year -- nobody can. But The Urantia Book dates Jesus' birth as August 21, 7 BC, and His resurrection -- the morning the stone was found already rolled away -- as April 9th, 30 AD.
The two Great North American Eclipses were on August 21, 2017 and April 8th 2024. The sign of Jonah -- Jonah 3: 5. Almost no one "saw". Jonah 3: 8. What's Next? Jonah 4: 11
It says at the going forth of the commandment which is in 457 BC.So 490 years later it would be 34 ADRemember no year 0.
Notice you just automatically added the 2300 days (of Daniel 8..) and your speaking of Daniel 9!!.. you don't know the 2300 days are (in )Daniel 9:27!.. but that's not the topic that you're talking about! You make it appear like you're not going to add to something or take anything away.!!. but you just did.. you made an assumption of...the 2300 days... They don't start until Daniel 9:27. And that has not started yet! the 2300 are not in this subject! Were you just put them. (Without any verification!)
Daniel 8 ends with Daniel fainting and being sick for some days because he didn't understand the vision of the 2300-day prophecy. In Daniel 9 the angel Gabriel comes to give Daniel understanding (Daniel 9:23). He begins with saying, "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, ...." (Daniel 9:24). The word here translated "determined" literally signifies "cut off." Seventy weeks, representing 490 years, are declared by the angel to be cut off, as specially pertaining to the Jews. But from what were they cut off? As the 2300 days was the only period of time mentioned in chapter 8, it must be the period from which the seventy weeks are cut off; the seventy weeks must therefore be a part of the 2,300 days, and the two periods must begin together". GC 326. The 2300 days and the 70 weeks have the same starting point.
@@dianaparks5415 you got to stop lying. There's nothing in Daniel 9 that hooks Daniel 8 to it except Daniel 9:27 and that hasn't happened yet you got to stop lying! What you're saying is not in the Bible but it comes from your indoctrination I've heard it 500 times already it's not in the Bible!
@@dianaparks5415 the word is not (cut off )..the word is (determined) unto them)!! that's not written to you in the first place. So if I have( determined that I'm going to give you 700,000 dollars) and I give you $600,000 now. And when I pass away( I give you the other 100,000.. because I have (determined that that is going to come to you )..no matter when!
Every 900 years repeats this blood moons, in the biblical spring feast the 14th Pessach night, was in the year 2014, 2015, 2016.
The first year of King Art Xerxes is 465-7=458!!!!
matt 14 and in the fourth watch of the night
he came to them walking in the night
dan 10: 6 his body was like beryl
his face like lightning
a bit confused why trump was brought into thia subject...😮
We do know the counting in the Julian calendar was shifted from 811 AD to the first millennium. You are right nine eleven was happening in the 18th hundreds. We are missing 189 years. 1844 and 189 = 2033. coincidentally, Pope Francisco wants to celebrate a jubilee 2033 to start the millennium of ☮️!
I love you guys, but your messages seem to drag on. If you would quit the small talk and get to the meat and potatoes, your channel would encounter more success.
Love your information and studies!
I really have to agree as they lose me with long videos that have a lot of fluff. Also I don't understand why they don't name the videos and add part 1 and part 2 and so on....I stop watching when I have to decipher what vids are what and can't find them when they are not titled. Why not post them in a Playlist?
The answer is in Ezekiel chapter 4
Very interesting how the manipulation has changed how different denominations interpret the Bible. I however don’t believe that many people are on this doctoral level when they “study” their Bibles so they can’t follow you through entirely. I have studied o lot myself and I still had to struggle to understand what you were saying. English is of course my native language either so … 😅 Thanks! Looking forward to hear your take on the evil satanic/luciferian catholic view, the whore of Babylon and the man of sin the pope himself.
The prophecy....to make an end of sins.. to bring everlasting righteousness. Was delayed. For te end. This.means itt has 3 1/2 years. Christ was in the middle of that final week. Daniel 12 says we get it in the final 3 1/2 years.
Hi guys, you sound very knowledgeable, i would like for you to explain why john said the beast that was, is not, and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit..you are saying it was rome..rome was in power when he wrote that the beast had already been slain...how can rome be the beast that was, is not, and yet is??.. i am persuaded that the beast that was slain is not rome..it is apostate israel..you guys are really teaching specific things that do not really fit what the scriptures say...the beast that was, is not, and shall rise to power is the state of israel..apostate israel killed jesus, and the apostles mostly, and chased and persecuted the early church untill that nation recieved a deadly wound in 70 ad..the second beast made an image of the first beast..that is where apostate christians made the false church on earth with a high priest instead of Jesus...prophecy says, the end times will be the second beast will cause all to worship the first beast..i do not see people worshiping the pope, or the catholic error.. I can see people worshiping the state of israel, and really pushing for red heifers, and temple garments and utensiles, the scriptures in daniel say that the 4th beast will persecute and fight against the messiah, and he would be cut off...rome did not fight against christ, that was the high priest that said he must die..and fought against Jesus..it was the rulers of jerusalem who fought against the early church..until the deadly wound...until the end of the war, as daniel states..i hope gou guys consider the false resurection is what is worshiped, and why it will be worshiped is the deception to all who do not love the truth..so God sends strong delusion..the resurection of Jesus is the gospel..the resurection of the state of israel is a different gospel...have a great day!.
Not Israel. Look up son of Perdition in 1611 AV. It's Judas. The first beast is killed by Moses and Elijah, then the second beast with daddy onboard..
Rome is Esau Edom its an edomite caucaisian empire . The negroes are the only ones that match the prophecies of Deuteronomy 28 . Taken back into slavery worldwide by the way of ships . And Egypt in that chapter refers to HOUSE OF BONDAGE . Read the book " ROME THE EMPIRE OF THE EDOMITES " Esaus descendants . Esau is Edom . Book of Genesis . Judgement is coming to Edom , book of Obadiah and Psalms 83 . We must serve the true living Ahayah God of Jacob and escape judgement .
@@gilasquiggy7846 judas was one man, he was anointed to be a minister, and he fell away..he is a type of israel, the first born son of God.tge remnant wete saved by listening to jesus and the apostles..the man of sin ,son of perdition, antichrist, beast, little horn, are all names of apostate israel...and now in the new covenant, all who fall away are in the Body of the son of perdition...just as all the redeemed are in the Body of Christ..there are only 2 people on judgement day..those in the body of Christ, and those in the body of the man of sin...judas was an example of unfaithful old covenant israel. He sold jesus to the ruling anointed power who had jesus killed for money..that power is the beast that persecuted the apostles, and early church..the man of sin stood in the temple of God showing himself as God..that was all who gathered together that did not believe jesus..Jesus said, when you see jerusalem surrounded by armies, flee to the wilderness, for these be the days of vengeance, when ALL SHALL BE Fulfiled that has been written in the law and the prophets...the son of perdition, the man of sin, the beast that was slain with the sword, that is the old covenant passing away and all the generation that rejected Jesus were cut off as the kingdom was taken from them and delivered to Jesus, and his faithful from the 12 tribes, and all who are grafted from the gentes into his body...when the day of salvation is over, satan shall be released on this earth to draw all nations to war against the camp of the saints..have a great day!.
@@xanderbarr1983 Hogwash.
@@gilasquiggy7846 have a great day!
The man wearing glasses is full of pride and cannot be turned.
At the 19:10 mark, you said the 10 commandments are inside the ark.
This is pure Christian ignorance and manmade false tradition.
Exodus 24:12 "and ALL OF THE LAW and commandments were written on the two stone tablets, on the front and on the back".
Why do you hate the law so much that you've completely abolished it from being on the 2 stone tablets, written with God's own finger?
My dear brothers, you will 😢 not find the whole truth, if we 7DA reject the true Sabbath rest, to count from every new moon 🌙 day ☝️ the 8.15.22.29. to recognize by the faces 🌓🌕🌗🌑. 📖 Act 17:30 🙏 😢.
True. It seems SDA are about the last people on earth who will accept this truth, from what I have seen anyway. Bless you for trying though! 😢
@@qztip Most of the SDA members keep the Saturns day Sabbath holy, who was invented from Pharisee Hillel 325 AD in the Julian Calendar by Roman Konstantin. Sorry ❤️🩹 very few are willing to take correction, relearn the true Sabbaths by counting from every new 🌙 moon day ☝️.
Every 900 years repeats the blood moons, on the biblical spring feasts, on Pessach the 14th, the fool moon was in the years 2014, 2015 and 2016.
@@annyletters4628 I guess the problem is that very few denominations care about the 4th commandment, so when you point out the satyr-day error to people who pride themselves on there sabbath keeping it really hits them hard.
Mak you are the one who dont want Jesus to come soon, Why are you trying to teach these prophecies?.. Doing it for MONEY?? You are no different from the Jesuits You are only doing it for Money
Why you say it is a poor theology? To Start the rebuilding of Jerusalem was by Sultan Suleiman 1537 AD, the same time we received the Bible into our hands 🙌 started the thousand year binding the devil in Yahs powerful holy word. We will endure till the end, the time of 144 jubilee’s will be completed.
WHAT????😮
The ending date of the 69 weeks is the last day of the year on the Jewish calendar. The next day is Nissan 1.. the first day of the first month Ezra chapter 7:9. 483 years from Ezra chapter 7 verse 9 the first day of the month. Established by Exodus 12: 2 ..when the decree goes forth. The ending day of the 69 weeks. Is March the 29th. In the year 27. On the Roman calendar.. (New Year's Day for the Jews on the Jewish calendar. On a Sabbath ).. if you're using( your false 457 B.C. date )!!!.from that date to the Cross, April 25th in the year 31..( is 4 years and 28 days.).... That's (not in the middle of any 7 years.)!!!!!!! You're not telling the truth!. You're hiding the 2300 days in Daniel 8! I know more about you ,than you know about yourself! Not one prophecy you teach is the truth!. I can prove every one of them!
And what are you proving it by? Can you prove it from the Word of God?