9:20 i know someone is already explain but let me say this you have to read card effect what it negate Subterror final battle is protect activated effect not protect card activation itself so at least it can protect subterror guru search effect from ash blossom Ash blossom is negate the effect But cynet conflict is negate the activate many card in this game is negate activate (solemn judgment / baroone de fleur / barreload savage dragon / appollousa bow of goddess)
not only that but it also states as a mechanic that a monster flipped face down will loose all lingering effects including final battle lingering effect to prevent negation also reason why you shouldn't use it as much but the flip face down quick effect of guru does stop a lot of problematic monsters that have lingering effects like mirror jade cuz it get's flipped face down it loses the part where it's fusion summoned so when mirror gets yeeted it can't trigger it's if this card leaves the field cuz it's not considered fusion summoned.
@@fatjontredhaku388its because the card says if this fusion summoned monster leaves the field. Not because its a lingering effect. You are correct though, i play both decks and had to search up Mirrorjades effect. 😂
Daruma cannon is perfect against purrely and kashtira I also utilize the imperial iron wall, with the lord of the heavenly prison we can set the imperial iron wall on the field, and with its effect, it can ignore the banish on the next end phrase downside of lord of the heavenly prison too.
taking an hours to understand, you maybe right, but what makes me confuse is final battle says "the activated effect cannot be negated" and the opp counter trap is also says "activation effect", shouldn't this very contradicted word lol
@@DuellinksAcethe opponent trap negate the activation itself as if you never activate the said card. the subterror card said "activated effect" can't be negated. but that mean you have to "activate" the card to have "activated effect". it's basically the different between solemn judgement and ash. ash negate the effect (you activate the card, but the effect is negated), but solemns negate the activation as if it never happen/you didn't even play the said card. your card goes from your hand straight to graveyard and doesn't count as touching the field.
@@bankkunarak appreciated bro, i realized something, final battle will prevent from being negated if our opp use called by the grave on guru for example, guru will successfuly resolved
Mathmech player should have added superfactorial instead of equation. He would still have lethal and if it his plays got disrupted they could follow up next turn
Subterror traps (Yes, there's two) can be abused with Lady / Lab field, and returning Guru to hand or even Fiendess (She's not only a negate, but recovery tool) NGL, is a good combination, but both decks are kinda weak early, specially Terror wanting to see Guru ASAP, while (Ikea) Lab wanting to discard for furniture, closest to Discard on Subterror being Nemesis warrior (Keep in mind this was before pot hits, and I tested them without floodgates, handtraps & Solemn, so the winrate wasn't as high... Try it at your own risk thou)
@@Jyxero I made the deck with lab without funiture and it works fine so far. Only downside is your big monsters dont trigger in your hand if you got those lab cards in your board. Everything needs to be in face down defence mode including your lab cards for it to trigger.
9:20 i know someone is already explain but let me say this
you have to read card effect what it negate
Subterror final battle is protect activated effect not protect card activation itself so at least it can protect subterror guru search effect from ash blossom
Ash blossom is negate the effect But cynet conflict is negate the activate
many card in this game is negate activate (solemn judgment / baroone de fleur / barreload savage dragon / appollousa bow of goddess)
Yes, this very clear, deserve pinned 👍
Ohh counter trap.. final battle usually cant negate that.
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not only that but it also states as a mechanic that a monster flipped face down will loose all lingering effects including final battle lingering effect to prevent negation also reason why you shouldn't use it as much but the flip face down quick effect of guru does stop a lot of problematic monsters that have lingering effects like mirror jade
cuz it get's flipped face down it loses the part where it's fusion summoned so when mirror gets yeeted it can't trigger it's if this card leaves the field cuz it's not considered fusion summoned.
@@fatjontredhaku388its because the card says if this fusion summoned monster leaves the field. Not because its a lingering effect. You are correct though, i play both decks and had to search up Mirrorjades effect. 😂
Daruma cannon is perfect against purrely and kashtira
I also utilize the imperial iron wall, with the lord of the heavenly prison we can set the imperial iron wall on the field, and with its effect,
it can ignore the banish on the next end phrase downside of lord of the heavenly prison too.
I feel like someone heard me talk about Subterrors a lot lately and made this just to shut me up ❤
Subterror are worth talking about.😊
@@devonzellpernell8895I also got Prediction Princess from the last pack so I guess the flip mechanic is top of mind
your deck profiles and intros are amazing keep up the great work bro!
that tribute summon nib to end the duel rly got me
9:20 The counter trap negates the activation, not the effect. Your trap protects the EFFECT from being negated
taking an hours to understand, you maybe right, but what makes me confuse is final battle says "the activated effect cannot be negated" and the opp counter trap is also says "activation effect", shouldn't this very contradicted word lol
@@DuellinksAcethe opponent trap negate the activation itself as if you never activate the said card. the subterror card said "activated effect" can't be negated. but that mean you have to "activate" the card to have "activated effect". it's basically the different between solemn judgement and ash. ash negate the effect (you activate the card, but the effect is negated), but solemns negate the activation as if it never happen/you didn't even play the said card. your card goes from your hand straight to graveyard and doesn't count as touching the field.
@@bankkunarak appreciated bro, i realized something, final battle will prevent from being negated if our opp use called by the grave on guru for example, guru will successfuly resolved
This just gave me nostalgia, who remembers Masked Tribute Subterror form DL? Such a classic
9:21 the trap only protected activated effects, not the effect that you are trying to activate. That’s why your card was negated
so for the extra deck, I see the 8 in the list
are the other 7 not necessary?? I can make out Ferrijit, Phoenix and #70 but that's about it.
Subterror just needs a few cards for more consistency, a special summoned starter that fetches Hidden City or a switcher like the Ninja trap.
Mathmech player should have added superfactorial instead of equation. He would still have lethal and if it his plays got disrupted they could follow up next turn
Beside the ash pretty good probably would use slayer or strike or even summon limit over it
Instead of Book Of Moon, try Sol and Luna. It synergizes much better with subterror
Subterror control is my favorite deck. Your deck is great except for the kashtira fenrir, I'm probably just tired of seeing it in all decks. 😅
Man didn’t even include a copy of “terror of the hidden city”, big sadge😢
The best deck in duel links AND máster duel. Precius
Could you play subterror labrinth?Just wanna see if they have some synergy. Please.
Subterror traps (Yes, there's two) can be abused with Lady / Lab field, and returning Guru to hand or even Fiendess (She's not only a negate, but recovery tool)
NGL, is a good combination, but both decks are kinda weak early, specially Terror wanting to see Guru ASAP, while (Ikea) Lab wanting to discard for furniture, closest to Discard on Subterror being Nemesis warrior
(Keep in mind this was before pot hits, and I tested them without floodgates, handtraps & Solemn, so the winrate wasn't as high... Try it at your own risk thou)
@@Jyxero I made the deck with lab without funiture and it works fine so far. Only downside is your big monsters dont trigger in your hand if you got those lab cards in your board. Everything needs to be in face down defence mode including your lab cards for it to trigger.
You miss play hard in mathmeck match why would you solemn haripe feather duster when you activate your lord of the heavenly prison ?
Yes, i forgot about that, my bad 😔
@@DuellinksAce wouldnt it had destroyed the field spell if you didnt solemn it? At least thats what I was thinking
@@fireywater field spell will only benefit when it activated with search effect, the rest effect is kinda mid
8:00 I think your back row is already protected, that god say no could be used better?
Yep, thats another missplay, i forgot that i use heavenly to prevent destruction lol
1:24 No
Another idea is resue ace labrinth or rescue labrinth.
Can Darumaa canon beat Rhongo??
Yes
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