@@bradleymeyer9775 I had a saab 9-3 and it was amazing. The most fun to drive car I ever had! Also full of weird quirks. You either loved or hated them. I loved them. RIP Dagmar the Saab. ❤
As a child of the 80s, Sierra Alfa Alfa Bravo is burned into my psych so completely that if Saab was still around today I would buy whatever they where offering regardless of model or price, well done Saab marketing for playing the long game, shame the accountants let you down.
@@PneumatinisPlaktukas15 Not to be that guy, but SAAB is very much still around. SAAB Cars was just a subsidiary of the SAAB Group, which is mainly a military aircraft and naval tech manufacturer. So technically you can still get a SAAB if you buy a fighter jet.
@@JJJ111JJJ Also to be fair SAAB Cars was a massive failure as a company. Of all the Swedish motor concerns they performed terribly economically year on year. Sure their cars were and still are fun to drive but it's a miracle that they survived for as long as they did.
I bought my first car two years ago and guess what… I bought a Saab 9.3 from the naughties. Is it an expensive car? Yes. But. It’s a Saab. And that’s what matters. And fun fact: the garage, an official Saab dealership, thought it was so nice that a girl my age bought a Saab, so they switched the interior into leather before I even went to see the car myself. When I found out, I had to buy it. And today, she passed the annual maintenance test, so I’m good to go for another year. I love Saab.
Or thinking woman's car. 😉 Genuinely loved my 1997 Saab 9-3. I actually cried when I heard they were shutting down and that my local hole-in-the-wall dealer was closing. I regret trading in my little hatchback for a pittance but I was new to apartment living and had nowhere to keep it. Ah Dagmar, RIP. I hope you are enjoying that highway in the sky.
To fix the downhill Twostroke lubrication problem, Saab made cars with freewheels that made the cars roll freely downhill. The engine sat on idle when rolling and there was no engine break. When the Saab 96 went from twostroke to fourstroke, the freewheel followed over to the fourstroke without any functional reason. I own a Saab 96 -72 (4stroke) with freewheel, and I really like it
@@worawatli8952 wrong, how does it save fuel? If you're in gear and off the throttle in a manual the engine is using zero fuel. It was a legacy system that, as the op said, served no function attached to a 4 stroke
@@andyw5962It didn't have a function on a 4 stroke car. Saab had a lot of two-stroke gearboxes left over and kept putting them in the 4 strokes. The freewheeling does make it more economical on fuel, but I drive my 2 stroke 1960 93F like I stole it, so my mileage isn't so great. But so what? It's the most fun car I've ever had!
been looking for this for a while. My dad had a 2007 Saab 9-5 so ive always had a soft spot for them. I like his BMW that he has now, but the Saab was cool. It was different, but not in a bad way. It was as good as a BMW of the time.
The thing with 2-stroke engine going downhill is that it idles and you don't need to brake and keep throttle at the same time. It's stupid to show it like that.
With all due respect to Top Gear but I would say that the sequence with the Saab 92 and the description about the supposed lubrication problem is not entirely truthful. As the case with all Saab two-strokes, as well as V4 and early Saab 99 models, the Saab 92 was equipped with free wheels in order to prevent situations like the one when the car is driving down a hill. Then you just let go of the gas pedal and the car continues to roll without engine brake. However, if the free wheel was disengaged or malfunctioned, you had to drive similar to how it is done in the programme. So partly true, yes, but dramatised in a very exaggerated way. //from a fellow two-stroke owner ;)
The thing that bothers me is that they purpously exclude the fact that Saab from the beginning solved the lubrication problem by fitting all two stroke models with a so called "free wheeling device" that disengaged the gearbox from the engine thus removing engine breaking and thus lack of lubrication was no longer a problem. A shame in an otherwise beautiful documentary by top gear.
James: when we heard the news that SAAB had closed down, Jeremy and I were actually very sad. Although... we weren't actually sure why. Me: *GM KILLED IT WITH ITS CHEAP BADGE ENGINEERING CRAP!!!*
@@ukaszpaluch4950 yes, my wife is a keeper. My mom even said the same thing… She’s in her 70s… She goes don’t sell it, you’ll regret it. You always do. Which is true, I can’t tell you how many cars I’ve sold that I regret. it’s a 2008 9-5 sportcombi. The ugly one. But I kind of liked it because it was so weird. The amount of space in the back of that wagon with the seats down continues to boggle my mind. It’s not a show car, but I’ve kept it cosmetically pretty nice and mechanically it doesn’t even leak oil lol. After 143,000 miles. I just blew $1400 on getting the air-conditioning fixed and it was worth every penny. The car is worth probably three grand but I don’t care. I feel like if I sold It that it would not be sold through regular channels it would be sold on the forum or something like cars and bids.com. My only complaint about the car is that the first seven years of the 9-5…. The interiors are much better. The GM crap started to take over in 2006. The interior is garbage compared to the earlier cars.
Is this a tribute to Saab? It's remind my about bullying! Aparently the program leaders havn't learn about driving at two stroke engine; it still lubricate in ille!
They built aircraft engines but did they build aircraft? Seriously I would like to know. I've been to the BMW museum and don't recall anything about aircraft being built by them.
@@lawrencelewis2592 unsure tbh. I do know their logo is a propeller for a reason. BMW should stick engines in Saab planes and the other way around for automobiles.
God bless you, whoever you are, for this.
I kinda like the Saab 9-3, Saab 9-5, Saab 9-7x, Saab 9-4x.
@@bradleymeyer9775 I had a saab 9-3 and it was amazing. The most fun to drive car I ever had! Also full of weird quirks. You either loved or hated them. I loved them. RIP Dagmar the Saab. ❤
As a child of the 80s, Sierra Alfa Alfa Bravo is burned into my psych so completely that if Saab was still around today I would buy whatever they where offering regardless of model or price, well done Saab marketing for playing the long game, shame the accountants let you down.
It’s honestly such a shame that SAAB is no more. Their cars are amazing.
@@PneumatinisPlaktukas15 Not to be that guy, but SAAB is very much still around. SAAB Cars was just a subsidiary of the SAAB Group, which is mainly a military aircraft and naval tech manufacturer. So technically you can still get a SAAB if you buy a fighter jet.
@@JJJ111JJJ Also to be fair SAAB Cars was a massive failure as a company. Of all the Swedish motor concerns they performed terribly economically year on year. Sure their cars were and still are fun to drive but it's a miracle that they survived for as long as they did.
I bought my first car two years ago and guess what… I bought a Saab 9.3 from the naughties. Is it an expensive car? Yes. But. It’s a Saab. And that’s what matters. And fun fact: the garage, an official Saab dealership, thought it was so nice that a girl my age bought a Saab, so they switched the interior into leather before I even went to see the car myself. When I found out, I had to buy it. And today, she passed the annual maintenance test, so I’m good to go for another year. I love Saab.
anything acquired by GM dies with GM
would’ve really loved to see a modern day saab…
the ng 9-5 looks modern if you ask me
@@axelljungqvist a NEW saab
@@joshkindu3063 GM owned Saab before wiping them out. If Saab still existed the cars wouldn't be anything to get excited about.
Obviously yoive never driven a Holden. Saab was given the Chevy cavalier then spent 300m changing it lol making it unprofitable
Some GM marques could build magnificent vehicles that cost them horribly lol
Always liked Saab's, the thinking man's car
Or thinking woman's car. 😉 Genuinely loved my 1997 Saab 9-3. I actually cried when I heard they were shutting down and that my local hole-in-the-wall dealer was closing. I regret trading in my little hatchback for a pittance but I was new to apartment living and had nowhere to keep it. Ah Dagmar, RIP. I hope you are enjoying that highway in the sky.
To fix the downhill Twostroke lubrication problem, Saab made cars with freewheels that made the cars roll freely downhill. The engine sat on idle when rolling and there was no engine break. When the Saab 96 went from twostroke to fourstroke, the freewheel followed over to the fourstroke without any functional reason. I own a Saab 96 -72 (4stroke) with freewheel, and I really like it
It is fuel economy reason, it saved fuel to be freewheeling all the time, but yea, tricky downhill.
But, what if you cooked you brakes?
@@worawatli8952 wrong, how does it save fuel? If you're in gear and off the throttle in a manual the engine is using zero fuel. It was a legacy system that, as the op said, served no function attached to a 4 stroke
@@andyw5962 not on a carbed car.
@@andyw5962It didn't have a function on a 4 stroke car. Saab had a lot of two-stroke gearboxes left over and kept putting them in the 4 strokes. The freewheeling does make it more economical on fuel, but I drive my 2 stroke 1960 93F like I stole it, so my mileage isn't so great. But so what? It's the most fun car I've ever had!
Reading the apology is still what keeps me watching this video over and over lol 🤣
been looking for this for a while. My dad had a 2007 Saab 9-5 so ive always had a soft spot for them. I like his BMW that he has now, but the Saab was cool. It was different, but not in a bad way. It was as good as a BMW of the time.
My dad had a wagon one for pretty much half my childhood lol
2 strokes get lubricated as long as the engine is running not only when throttle is applied
I kinda like the Saab 9-3, Saab 9-5, Saab 9-7x, Saab 9-4x, Saab 9-2x, and the Saab 900 Convertible.
Not sure why they criticized the 900. That was probably their best car and it was truly amazing
Certainly the most widespread saab, at least in America.
Sierra
Alpha
Alpha
Bravo
Saab, come back please!
So glad I stumbled across this channel! Subscribed👍
I.
Love.
My.
Saab.
The thing with 2-stroke engine going downhill is that it idles and you don't need to brake and keep throttle at the same time. It's stupid to show it like that.
With all due respect to Top Gear but I would say that the sequence with the Saab 92 and the description about the supposed lubrication problem is not entirely truthful. As the case with all Saab two-strokes, as well as V4 and early Saab 99 models, the Saab 92 was equipped with free wheels in order to prevent situations like the one when the car is driving down a hill. Then you just let go of the gas pedal and the car continues to roll without engine brake. However, if the free wheel was disengaged or malfunctioned, you had to drive similar to how it is done in the programme. So partly true, yes, but dramatised in a very exaggerated way.
//from a fellow two-stroke owner ;)
2 strokes rule! I love my 1960 93F!
I miss it😥
go and buy it
Idk why but I quite like the 92
I can’t remember the last time I saw a Saab on the road 🤔🚗🛣️
Right? They all break down like the junk they are 😂
Come to Sweden! :D
I loved saab cars you still see them about very sad saab
The sonett is beautiful and nobody will change my mind on that
The thing that bothers me is that they purpously exclude the fact that Saab from the beginning solved the lubrication problem by fitting all two stroke models with a so called "free wheeling device" that disengaged the gearbox from the engine thus removing engine breaking and thus lack of lubrication was no longer a problem. A shame in an otherwise beautiful documentary by top gear.
we would like to apologise for the music
and the shirt, the jacket and the hair 😂
awesome
James: when we heard the news that SAAB had closed down, Jeremy and I were actually very sad. Although... we weren't actually sure why.
Me: *GM KILLED IT WITH ITS CHEAP BADGE ENGINEERING CRAP!!!*
In all fairness without GM Saab wouldn't have lasted anywhere near as long. They were busted when GM took over.
@@bmstyleecompletely agree, however GM still completely did not understand Saab at all, so they screwed it up.
SAAB: Only airplane manufacturer which produces cars
Also SAAB: Using Volvo engine in their airplane
Name the song at 2 min 45
Groove Armada - Paper Romance
I’ve had 6. Still have one. I love it. I almost sold it but my wife goes… You’re going to regret it.
Amazing wife. Which one you have? 9-3?
@@ukaszpaluch4950 yes, my wife is a keeper. My mom even said the same thing… She’s in her 70s… She goes don’t sell it, you’ll regret it. You always do. Which is true, I can’t tell you how many cars I’ve sold that I regret. it’s a 2008 9-5 sportcombi. The ugly one. But I kind of liked it because it was so weird. The amount of space in the back of that wagon with the seats down continues to boggle my mind. It’s not a show car, but I’ve kept it cosmetically pretty nice and mechanically it doesn’t even leak oil lol. After 143,000 miles. I just blew $1400 on getting the air-conditioning fixed and it was worth every penny. The car is worth probably three grand but I don’t care. I feel like if I sold
It that it would not be sold through regular channels it would be sold on the forum or something like cars and bids.com. My only complaint about the car is that the first seven years of the 9-5…. The interiors are much better. The GM crap started to take over in 2006. The interior is garbage compared to the earlier cars.
Saab should’ve stuck to planes.
Agreed 🛩️
Driving down a hill while braking and accelerating is bollocks, just put it in neutral or clutch in like a 2 stroke dirt bike
No. Saab is at this end...
SAAB❤
What episode is this?
Season 18 Episode 5, it's at 41:22 in the episode.
Is this a tribute to Saab? It's remind my about bullying! Aparently the program leaders havn't learn about driving at two stroke engine; it still lubricate in ille!
Try that in a Trabant then. It also have a two stroke engine and come back if the engine is alive.
You are either on throttle or neutral.
Does anyone know, if SAAB AB decide to make cars again, are they allowed to use the name?
They own the name. They most certainly could make a car again if they wanted to.
As far as SAABs go, I kinda like the 9-3 and 9-5
Lol
"Only one aircraft manufacturer makes cars"
BMW?
They built aircraft engines but did they build aircraft? Seriously I would like to know. I've been to the BMW museum and don't recall anything about aircraft being built by them.
@@lawrencelewis2592 unsure tbh. I do know their logo is a propeller for a reason. BMW should stick engines in Saab planes and the other way around for automobiles.