SINGER'S first REACTION to ANGELINA JORDAN - WHAT A DIFFERENCE A DAY MAKES & LE TRUTH ABOUT AUTOTUNE
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As an audio engineer for over 30 years and listening to thousands of singers of all types and experiences I can rest assured Angelina is NOT and never has used an auto-tuner. Angelina doesn't need one.
And i dont think she used autotune on her liveshow in july 2022.
Sung live, in front of an audience of several thousand and a nationwide TV audience, she calmly kills this -- at the age of 8. She's not only cute, she's clearly a superstar & prodigy.
Agreed
Her perfect sense of timing is used to the max when singing the jazzy way. I am awed by it, especially when she comes in after a jazz instrument interlude and there’s no definite beat or phrase to indicate when she should come back in, but she always knows exactly when! Innate sense of timing!
You can almost hear the scratches in her voice like on the old vinyl when she sing these classics song❤️she’s the real deal ❤️love your reactions on this beautiful talent 👏👍❤️
Thanks! She's definitely the real deal :-)
She is a very RARE talent that would never , ever, need autotune.
She doesn't "need" it but it's possible she added it to get an affect she was looking for.
Exactly
@@ClifftheBigRedDoggy Could be, but I can't hear it and i Highly doubt it. This person is a prodigy. She started singing at age 1.5 and emulates so many timeless vocalists.
@@tomgreene121 I've watched 3 reactors / vocal say that it sounds autotuned. It's an effect some singers want or have learned to emulate. One suggested that while it sounds autotuned, it could be her intentionally imitating the sound. In other words, it is there intentionally and in an obvious way. Not because she needed her voice corrected but wanted that sound.
@@ClifftheBigRedDoggy Yep that's precisely and exactly what I said. Thanks for repeating it and agreeing!
This is insane!!!! Mio Dio!!!!!!
Vibrato of Angelina is absolutely unique!!!!! Incomparable!!!!!
I am shocked seriously!!!!!!
The head of Republic Records said he has only worked with three artists that constantly do just one take. Beyonce, Sam Smith and Angelina. She is so special.
This girl just takes on anything and just slays it every time she is outstanding, just outstanding
I could listen to this for hours and have. That says it all really. Thanks for reacting.
I figured you would like this one, most people overlook it, but I think it is one of her best. Because of the timing of this performance, within weeks of her win on NGT, I’ve thought that she prepared this song for NGT, but chose “Summertime” for the finals, because I’m sure she had more than just 2 songs prepared for the semifinals and finals. This is one of three or four songs she sang multiple times on talk shows and the different versions of Little Big Shots.
It’s remarkable how much she captures Dinah Washington in this performance!
Cool 👍🏻
@@dannytheswedishmusixian1513 I wonder how many songs she had prepared for this concert. My impression is she did an entire concert tour the summer she won NGT.
I've always thought her voice was good, but few folks give her Ear full credit for listening and letting her voice adjust to what she's heard. Her brain - to learn those - has to be pretty sharp, too.
She often sings what she has heard on records. And other times, she makes every song hers alone.
I found you explanation of how 'Auto Tune' type processing is used in the recording business very interesting.
It is notorious for being a form of cheating but I now understand that it can be used in a legit way as one of the many technical tweaks available.
Now many 9yo kids could stand all by themselves out in the middle of such a large audience and deliver this perfect rendition of an old jazz standard. Angelina was borne to do this.
Glad you got something from it and yes it’s just a tool like compression etc. I agree, she’s phenomenal.
This is the performance that David Foster said was the most astonishing he had ever seen.
That's nice. Though I think we should all care about what our own ears are telling us :-)
Soo...his taste in singing is strong cause he agrees with you? ;-) To me it doesn't matter who says what about music. It's what I hear and feel that matters. Only that.
@Bernard Klein Thanks, Bernard -- agree completely. If there's one thing David Foster sees and understands, it's potential. Often he exploits that -- to be honest, and as an example, think about Jackie Evancho. Fortunately AJ's parents and mentors resisted efforts to turn her into a child superstar. We're now enjoying the results of their efforts.
I was joking as well, hence the smiley :-)
No harm done :-)
Great reaction as always, I liked your lesson on auto tune, it increases my appreciation of artists and their performances
Thanks! Great to hear you got something from it.
Hi Danny. Thanks for taking the time of explaining "autotune" to us who don't really understand what it's all about.
Angelina has proven she can sing live as well as when she sings in studio which doesn't mean when she is, there are not some "tweaking" done to the track 😉
Anyway, the final product is phenomenal IMO.
This performance in particular is one that I treasure the most. Everything about it was perfect for me. And it's not only about how cute Angelina looked or was but also the courage of standing in the middle of a sea of people and just get on with her singing, which as you said, is a perfect jazz rendition of the song 😊
Yeah she’s amazing 😊
I've heard little glitch in almost every song I've ever heard her sing, commercial or otherwise. You would think that if they were using autotune, those wouldn't be there, but they are. A little reverb, yup, a few things spliced together, yup, singing on the sidewalk during the Christmas rush in Oslo on Instagram, yup. I think we're dealing with someone completely different here, that's hard to put in a box. I just love the way she makes me feel when I listen to her sing, warts and all.
I'm a fan of warts and all as well. Just explaining how studio recordings work.
Thanks for your explanation of auto tune…one of the partners of Stargate, Angelina’s producer, has said that Angelina is one of those artists who can do a song in a single take…but that doesn’t mean she makes no mistakes. I think most of Angelina’s fans like her vocals whether there are small defects or not. It makes her performance more authentic. From the point of view of music production, however, I can understand why small audio defects would be fixed in post. As an amateur photographer, I can tell you that I correct defects in photos in post (afterwards) all the time. Anyway, most of us fans want to think Angelina’s vocals are better raw and uncorrected. But I imagine her record label, Republic records, will use professional standards and methods to ensure Angelina’s music tracks are near perfect when released commercially…thanks for your reactions to Angelina!
Thanks! Yeah I've done a lot of fashion photography and the editing after is a huge part of that process. People just shouldn't be afraid of AT and similar tools. Just tools.
@@dannytheswedishmusixian1513 Thank you for the informative intro about auto tune. If one wants to be nitpicking, I noticed she was slightly off key right at the end (8:12-8:13), you may have noticed but probably decided to ignore it as the rest was absolutely pitch perfect. Had this been a studio recording, this would be a good example to use auto tune to correct this short one second part the way you explained it. Thanks!!!
Thanks! Yeah to me slight deviations don’t mess up my experience at all.
@@dannytheswedishmusixian1513 You and I both lol :-)
@@claudest-gelais8456 May be you are right,but through the years I have read thousand upon thousand of comment to Angelina's singing,and many times people has said that she has been off tune,and other have said that they where completly wrong,becauce Angelina has listen to the great jazz-divas for years,and what you and others call off tune are jazzsingers way of singing,so It's a tool to get spezial effects,but I'm not an expert,I'm only telling what others have told in comments here on RUclips.
I have watched some videos of her singing at home to her sister no microphone just recording it on the phone and no she sounds just as amazing
“I love her jazzy style.” Amen, brother! It's my hope she turns on the young generation to jazz. Also, you realize that in classic jazz singing they would “sing-around” the correct note before landing it. It is the basis of the style, like with a jazz saxophone. You're right, she sings in the jazz style, but, on the other hand, has never mimicked, or parroted anyone’s rendition. It's all her interpretation, and mostly her arrangements. Compare any of the greats that she covers to the original to understand that she doesn't copy. I don't think you’ve ever said that, but I see it often in comments about her.
Thanks! Yeah I sing a bit like that myself. Glide onto notes. And funny you mention copying. Someone just mentioned her hanging on the notes in a great way and I asked if she just copied the originals or did it herself :-) I guess I have my answer then.
This was the first video of Angelina i watch, and felt in love forever and ever! Simply enchanted!! 🤗✌🏻💕
I have no delusions that Angelina sings perfectly every time. But for me she is the best singer ever.
Cool.
I agree
Yes Mr Michelle!!
Angelina is absolutely the best singer ever!!!
I will listen to and enjoy everything that Angelina has recorded, buy every thing that she sells, support her in all of her ventures and recognize her amazing talent and work ethic. And it is unimportant to me whether she is or is not the best ever, I love her as a person and artist.
@@CLSM929 well put
As William Ang notes below, you can imagine the crackle of the needle in the groove of a record when you listen to her. In fact, if you listen closely after she stops singing on "7th Heaven", Stargate inserted a couple seconds of that sound.
I listen to her a lot, but occasionally the crazy impossibility of what she does hits me all over again.
I can't help but to laugh when I see the two grown women singing back up for an 8 yr old!!!
Yeah that's fun :-)
Great reaction Danny. Your explanation of Auto-tune was helpful (and probably necessary) in order to dispel negative inferences attached to both songs and reactions. I assumed these tools existed and were a standard part of music production. Your explanation helped.
Thanks Peter! Glad it helped.
It's magic. I believe. She was born for music. Thanks for explaining auto tune. I thought it was something like that, but did not realize a specific tiny portion could be used, example "eh" or "ah". I thought larger fragments perhaps. So, i learned something and i appreciate it Danny. Thanks for the cool reaction.
Great to hear you got something from it 👍🏻 And yes as you say, it’s most often used on just a word or a note to save an otherwise great take.
@@dannytheswedishmusixian1513 i admit, before you explained it, i thought it was a bad thing. Now i know it is just a tool.
I used to think the same before I knew more about it.
What astounds me is the level of work Angelina must have put in to be this good on this performance. Natural talent, a history of listening to the pro's from the jazz era, still there (imho) must be an expert coach advising her on when to use certain techniques, how to improve timing and pronunciation etc. (Hold that vibrato just one beat longer but let it trail off). That she can then implement that advice so accurately on stage at her age just amazes me. She must learn very fast, and integrate a style very quickly. She uses 5 or 6 very distinct jazz styles alone, preteen.
The professional coach I heard say it was Autotune played it back and corrected herself, job done, enough said,. What difference a Day makes , truly spell bounding performance.
Cool.
This is a prime example of a song I must have heard a hundred times in my lifetime and never really cared for all that much. Now this is one of my favourite recordings. Angelina has done that to me many times.
Yeah, great singers can do that.
She will go down as one of the greatest jazz artists of all time! That's my belief, God Bless!
If she stays in that lane and doesn’t go full pop. Thanks!
Angelina's phrasing is impeccable. For an 8 year old to have that much control over her volume and over her vibrato, is just astounding to me. Angelina I have been following for four years since I saw her do that A Capella version of 'I'm A Fool To Want You', I have been pushing people to discover her. I am surprised that these four years later people are still just finding out about her. There is one other young singer who I found first in a three night stretch four + years ago. Her name is Daneliya Tuleshova. Though she is moving in a different musical direction, Pop vs. Jazz and surrounding styles these two are bother perfectionists and want to have it their way and trust their own instincts. One from Norway, the other from Kazakhstan they both have put up well over a hundred covers and also original content. They have sung before many types and sizes of crowds. They are both physically beautiful and very bright. They are both surrounded by strong family support. They both possess voices beyond their years. The biggest difference is their physical stature Angelina has grown to a statuesque 6'1" tall while Daneliya recently hit 5'2" and a little bit. Well I going to stop now. Thanks for your reaction.
Thanks! Recorded my first reaction to Daneliya yesterday.
Ditto Wade! Best of the best in her originals and covers. Can’t get enough of her voice....
Glad you went into autotune. People seem to think autotune will make a bad singer good. It adjusts small differences in pitch. If you're bad you're bad lol. Have a great day Danny.
Thanks! Yeah I'm not an expert but as you say lots of people have negative ideas about these tools and most of them are not based on facts imo. And a great one to you too.
@@dannytheswedishmusixian1513 Thank you very much for the reaction. I think Republic is being too overprotected Angelina, that's why they are using Autotune. Let's put it this way Angelina since 2014 is a jewel for the music industry as for the fans, a friend composer Venezuelan told me once a secret from the great Caribbean orchestras was to make "small mistakes, many times after time" In order for the subconscious of the listener that "human" effect will occur. Lately I'm seeing Angelina anymore as musical genius because I've seen small tricks that she does practically invisible that give an extra color to the songs. Angelina is a musical genius, someday you understand what I say at this moment. Thanks
Thanks! Yeah for me too perfect is boring. I don't want robots to sing or play everything in a song. Another fun live trick is if you play something wrong...do it again right after with confidence and people will think it was meant to be like that :-)
@@dannytheswedishmusixian1513 People have negative ideas bout AT because it’s often used for effect (I personally don’t care for that effect in most cases and think it sound horrid..). Too much of anything is bad, including the melisma-runs that Americans seems to love. I have heard melismas so badly executed and indiscriminately applied that they totally murder the music. Big names in the industry is guilty of this too.
yup, and cause people think if you use pitch correction you can't sing.
She's like a magical forest pixie ...making true spellbinding sounds..
Hej Danny!
Gillar dina reaktioner på Angelina. Hon har fått mig att gilla jazz😊 En av mina favoriter är när hon sjunger ”l’m a fool to want you”. Det finns ett youtube-klipp där hon sjunger den i en studio. Kolla in den! 🎼❤️
Tack! Kul. Klassisk jazz som Angelina sjunger är grymt tycker jag med.
I was one who said you can hear vocal effects, she makes. You was talking more about the effects, and you heard auto tune in parts of the song, while I was concentrating on something else. So sorry if I miss spoke, you know more then I. All techniques I'm sure are being used, I'm just impressed on her vocals. I'm listening now for now and I understand it more after listening to you. Thanks for the clarity. It's a learning lesson.
Great, thanks for being open. She's an amazing vocalist and there'll never be any doubt about that in my mind.
Thanks for the reaction Danny and for the auto-tune explanation as well. Some say Angelina is auto-tune with that beautiful voice even at the very young age. Look forward to more of your comments and reactions to the barefoot Angel.
Thanks Carl! She's a fantastic singer and I'll definitely do more of her songs.
Thank you for your explanations about AT. You’re a professional singer so you know it better.
Angelina for me is one of the best actual female vocalist .
Good reaction!
Thanks! Glad it helps.
Why say anything if you are not in the studio observing first hand everything technical that's going on with the recording. Let this precious angel grow and expand on her talent to the fullest extent--over the next 5 or 6 years before any critical statements destroy her confidence. She is a blessing to all of us---God love her!
Cause I was asked to react to it and I just say what I hear. And using AT is not a criticism if one understands it’s use.
we all love Angelina and we know how great she is,,,and we know she in now "in hands of pros" ,,,,,,no more sofa singing which we all love,,,but now its a different ball game,,,great explanations for all of us who do not have a clue how it works behind the scene,,,,thanks,,,and of course Angelina is the ONE,,,,,,,,
Thanks!
Agree with other comments. We are extremely protective of angelina man hahaha
She is at her best singing live and if mistakes are made so be it. I like better when stuff isnt perfect. It shoukdnt be.and seeing her live...we kniw she really doesn't need help from studio tweaks...
Nothing wrong with being protective but I like when the conversation is grounded in facts .-) And I agree, too perfect is boring and no, she doesn't need any help live :-)
@@dannytheswedishmusixian1513 exactly...im not a fan of any of auto tune...auto tweak wutevs it is called. You hear a sing and see a persin in concert and its often so dissaponting. Let the mistakes be made i say!! And let imperfection be the new perfection!!! Hahaha
Sure, that could be cool. More authenticity is great in my book :-)
@@dannytheswedishmusixian1513 agreed!!
I remember last vid. you did say autotune effect... The live in studio vid. WAS produced, so maybe it was done. It was done on the ALBUM track first release audio in at least one place.
Yeah I don't know. That's just what it sounded like to me. A small effect.
I and many other here on RUclips has commened that on the first version of Million Miles,the version with her and grandmothers drawings,it was an effects,some called it to mush produced,and I for instance said that it was a small part where I could hear some electronic sound,and we didn't like it,most people like her voice when it is more like we are used to from RUclips.May be this electronic sound is what Danny call autotune.The next version from the studio where you can see her sing is better,it's may be a little effect here too,but it's eventual much smaller.
Was this girl not born to sing jazz Danny? She has sung some beautiful pop covers, but even on those she brings either a jazzy or soulful feel to them to make them sparkle.
I would love to see her new label make an album of just these old standards recorded professionally.
Not every album of course, but maybe every third or so.
No donations for you brother but I have a couple suggestions.
When We Were Young
and
Young and Beautiful
Both are top shelf.
Yeah I enjoy her jazzy style better than the pop influences but I'm sure she can master it all so whatever direction she wants to take. It'd be a little sad of she just became another pop singer probably.
My absolut favorite of all classic songs by Angelina, may be together with the Quincy's birthday versions of Fly me to the Moon. By the way, excelent explication about this "autotune thing", it's a multitool (i worked 15 years as a sound engineer...).
Thanks! To me I put a spell still reigns supreme from Angelina. Yea I'm not an expert in AT per se but I know what it and similar tools can do.
I put a spell on you is a gem in composition, she took the beauty of the musical part from Jay Hawkins crazy performance an brought it to the point. Mindblowing, but she had her limits to perform it how it should be. But here What a difference a day makes she performed simply perfect, with the moode of a gone era. Not gone anymore because of Angelina :-)
Angelina is another one in a million. Her vocal vocabulary, capacity to feel, and instincts for singing a phrase are far beyond her tender years. She hasn't experienced in this life most of what she sings about, yet embellishes her words with evidence of 'been there done that.' Her voice is capable of so many types of singing styles. Oh what a difference an Angelia Jordan makes! And, what will her growing up usher into a vocal treasure trove of already endless possibilities? I would like to see her write something as well one day.
She already has:
What is Life?
Oslo
Shield
Million Miles
7th Heaven
Plus two songs written for her:
A song for A
Above the Water
And she has said that she has quite a few songs written that are not published yet.
Agreed. Amazing talent.
I just reposted about Angelina and auto tune. I wish for you to understand so let me put it this way. I was there for moral support when Angelina had a discussion about auto tune. Recording engineers and other techs and a few others from Republic were trying to convince her to let them use auto tune to “clean up runs and small mistakes.” She stood up for herself and told them: if she uses auto tune it is NOT her real voice. She told them, people want to hear her voice as it is. If she uses it for recording then she will have to also use it for live performance because people want the live performance to be as good as the recorded music! I heard her and encouraged her to tell them all that if there is a mistake that needs “cleaned up” for pitch run perfection or whatever she will fix it herself with her own voice not that of a computer. She said she was willing to do as many takes as possible to get it right and that she will have it right for live performance. What you may not know is that Angelina has final rights to decide how her music is presented and recorded and final say on the arrangements etc. Final rights! The voice you hear on her RUclips and other social media postings is HER voice. Not an algorithm! She will not have it any other way. She wishes everyone to know the voice she has is the voice they get. Period. You should admit your mistake and realize that the perfection of her pitch and runs is ALL her. Maybe a voice at this level of mastery is too hard for you to understand. Angelina tells me to let you know auto tune may be for some but NOT FOR HER. That’s the way it is. Not your I’ll informed suppositions.
=) Thank you Danny.
Thanks 😊
Her phrasing is up there with Willie Nelson's.
I'm curious, do you think NGT or AGT allow contestants to use autotune? What percentage of Angelina rcordings ? Are they using auto tune with the stage performances recorded. by audience menbera?
I’ve only heard 1 instance where it sounded like they used an AT like effect on AJ and it was on a run in Million Miles for about 3-4 notes.
I guess that what it all comes down to is that most people think Auto-Tune (which is a trade marked brand from Antares Audio Technologies) = pitch-correction (generic) for pitchy singers only, and don't know that the Auto-Tune toolbox includes many things, among them pitch control and vocal effects. On Auto-Tune's web page they list 11 different vocal effects, besides pitch control, that they can add. I guess all these vocal effects are the successors to the original analog vocoder, invented in the 1930s.
I LOVE vocoders.
Must have hurt when you pulled the tape off, especially the tash! :) Thanks for the talk through autotune; makes me think of KZ's great ... and I see you have just done it - off to watch it now!
😊👍🏻
Thank you Denny for your wonderful reaction and a happy Friday to you. Smile.
What is not true is that autotune was used on Angelina's vocals. Her producer said so. He also said she usually sings the song top to bottom in one take. He said she is one of only 3 artists he has ever worked with that can do it in one take and he said she doesn't need any enhancements to her vocals. Whatever you heard wasn't autotune.
Maybe. Asking a producer about an artist is like asking your mom if you can sing though.
@@dannytheswedishmusixian1513 OK, but I think I'll take his word over your opinion.
I don't know if it's true or not so I'll just remain unknowing.
There are three singers who does not need auto tune. First take is (almost) always pitch perfect. They are Beyoncè Knowles, Sam Smith and Angelina Jordan Astar.
Might be true, might not. Might be more. Most importantly when doing takes is the feel, not the pitch imo.
@@dannytheswedishmusixian1513 This was stated by a STARGATE producer..... it is here on YT.
Asking a producer about an artist is like asking your mom if you can sing though.
More specifically, this refers to the musicians Stargate has worked with so far.
I get that.
Next you will say models wear makeup.... haha. I agree autotune is fine as a tool to tweak but shouldn't be relied on to carry a singer... AJ great as usual....nice reaction. Cheers
The model comparison is spot on...and funny lol. And i agree...its a legit tool...and its obvious when someone floods the production with autotune.
Well I might have to if I start reacting to fashion shows :-) Thanks
Cher says in an interview: 'I was the first to do Auto-Tune' (2013 interview available on RUclips) ✌😎✌
Cool. Do you believe in life after love?
@@dannytheswedishmusixian1513 I believe so, and it was extreme to the point that my ears were bleeding lol :-)
Haha, I liked it as a popcorn pop track 😁
Mantap.. 👍👍
AJ doesnt use such thing as Autotune, if there is a "mistake" it's because she wants it to sound like that :)
Sure :-)
@@dannytheswedishmusixian1513 At least I think hehe, of course she can make mistakes too :p
Nooo...she's not human....is she? ;-)
Everything Angelina sings is entirely on purpose. Many of her quirks in phrasing, pronunciation, timing, interpretation, intonation, chest and head voice, vocal fry, etc. we Angels find it all entirely endearing, uniquely Angelina and would not change the tiniest thing. Angelina nor any in her employ nor any official producer or engineer has used auto tune or any effects other than overdubbing and a touch of reverb which mostly occurs on her home studio takes. What fans and other posters do to alter the sound, for whatever reason, do so on their own. I seriously doubt Angelina's contract with Republic Records allows for ANY meddling in her creative process. Republic has not only signed a guaranteed gold mine but one toward whom they feel a genuine responsibility towards; to protect and nurture Angelina's creative genius. I've been following Angelina for four years and have over 7,000 music videos, audio recordings on multiple media, interviews, TV appearances, Angelina's home produced videos in both California and Norway as well as home videos by Sara and Mery, videos of Angelina and her beloved sister Juliette, rehearsal videos.......it goes on and on. I have yet to see any sign of a person in Angelina capable of artifice. She is absolutely genuine and fearless exactly as she appears to be whether on or off stage. Having never met her (I fear I would collapse and die) I can only speculate and firmly believe Angelina's soul is even more beautiful and astounding than her great gift of conveying emotions perfectly in the musical language God has gifted her and therefore all of us.
Autotuning Angelina voice would be similar to taking a bucket of ice to the south pole, completely unneeded and nonimpactful at best. Only way to screw her voice up is for producers to try and make her sound different.
I'm not trying to argue against your words on autotune, but I like to provide some additional background. There were some rumors from earlier productions and recently her current producer reitered she's one of only three singers (including Beyonce) they worked with so far that can perfectly sing a song through in one run. Ivan Mendez, her guitar player in her 12/13 years also said in an interview they usually did only one or two takes for their home videos. I believe they might have applied a little after editing, but tv shows and concerts that really were recorded live clearly show thats mostly superfluous. She clearly used at least some reverb effects in some of her videos. Personally I prefer her recent live performances over the studio recordings which feel somewhat overdone with effect editing to me. I would be curious if the arrangements of those "official studio performances" were still managed by the same guys or if she took over herself.
Angie seems to have a crazy consistence, another reactor noted that if a part appears a second time in the same performance it's almost a perfect replica of the first occurrence.
I can contrast that with behind the scenes info from another singer who said she usually did a dozen takes, choosing the best one.
Cool, thanks!
Yeah most singers do a bunch of takes to find the right feel.
musos been using tech 2 change v vocal 4 a lng time, was happening in v 60s, tracking, reverb, delay, eco, autotune is mearly v latest gadjet 2 do a similiar ting- change v vocal. haha she been alive 24 little hrs, but her singing is frm a lifetime!. cheers frm au.
That was hard to read. Cheers
8 year old girl in the middle of thousands of people ,back singers,,,,,,,,band and she just close her eyes and sings like in a zone,,,,,,,,,nobody,,,,,,nobody else ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,this is it
I am not a sound engineer, so this is not a criticism, but a genuine question. If autotune is supposed to correct errors, but you are nonetheless still able to detect a "robotic" effect that it causes, how does this equate with its stated purpose of making the final product sound better? And wouldn't it tend to eliminate the wide vibrato that some singers might sometimes use? With regard to this performance, what I find particularly impressive are her timing, phrasing and expression, which are stunning and yet seem so completely effortless.
Please, have your wife listen to “Dinah Washington” doing the Original and then have her listen to this one. Exactly the same, great is great! No matter what age? The music is pure!.. SanJoséBob
Cool! Great is great!
I picked up a lot of autotune in this one. Autotune by Angilina! 🇺🇸💪🔥👍⭐🥀🙏
I was like what? And then I saw your next line 😁👍🏻
Danny, what cracks me up is here she is singing to thousands of people at eight years old and for only a second or two do you say to yourself, "What a cute kid!" Right after that you listen to her as an accomplished artist singing a song in a voice that touches your heart. Next comes the inevitable, "That was unbelievable!"
Danny, I'm not singling you out at all, but why all this stuff about "Autotone?" For instance if she pulled away from the mike early on a note they could fix that, right? People are making it sound like the artist is being compromised. Can we suggest the idea that Pavarotti was once "Autotoned?" The only time any critic (or, whoever) should be concerned about putting finishing touches on a musical production is if the artist is way "off key" . Then there is a case of labeling the production something less than genuine. Noise in the background, or a band or orchestra playing too loudly, etc., all seem like justifiable reasons to "make adjustments" and improve the quality of the recording. Yes? Danny, thanks for handling the discussion very wisely. You are a pro and we appreciate your input.
Thanks! The only thing I said to start this was in my Million Miles reaction cause a 3-4 note run sounded like they’d put an auto-tune type effect on it. Then people who don’t understand auto tune etc panicked and thought I said AJ couldn’t sing without it. So I felt it could be good to explain a little to those who were wondering. Pitch correction is no more weird to use in a studio than a compressor or a limiter imo.
AUTOTUNE in live shows SUCKS.
Digital correction or word flip or such is done all the time in production for album tracks though. Sometimes a bit of autotune is used for the best of them, but FOR THOSE who are almonst complete AUTOTUNE.... get out of the singing business...it is NOT you.. IT IS NOT authentic.
Monster crowd and she is not fazed.
yeah, good luck using autotune when her blue notes are truly tempered and off the chromatic scale, it will just take away the timbre that gives us the goosebumps.
Yeah I don't think they use it on her jazz vocals and in this instance(Million Miles) it sounded like it was used as an effect, not saving anything.
An excellent performance for this amazing prodigy, but it was unfortunate that you chose to talk about "AutoTune" during your reaction to this live performance where "AutoTune was obviously not employed.
Auto tune ain’t no good. I wanna hear pure talent! Thanks only my opinion.
If you want to see Angelina having fun singing try this one Angelina Jordan - Something's Got a Hold On Me (Allsang på grensen 2017) ruclips.net/video/TCc4Yjri3pc/видео.html
Thanks!
Notice the hair started early.
I think you will find that the fans of these young girl singers are borderline fanatical,. some reactors have just stopped reacting to them all together,.
Yeah my ”Block User” button is glowing red from over use 😁
I m holding out for you..med Angelina jordan
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I use autotune everday when I speak to other ppl....
I think you just made mistake about Angelina and autotune no one's perfect though. Always enjoy your reactions. Take care
I might have, thanks!
Not to mention that masterful back phrasing, at age 8?
Not smart or educated enough to know what that means.
@@dannytheswedishmusixian1513 That's when you don't deliver your notes exactly on the beat (as written in the score sheet, which would sound mechanical and boring) but take the liberty to phrase certain syllables slightly before or after the beat.
Ah, thanks. Yeah that makes it sound more alive usually. So does she choose that on her own or is she imitating the original timing?I have accepted that she could sing like that at that age so now I just compare her to grown up singers. Probably unfair but she's that good. Not just good for a kid.
@@dannytheswedishmusixian1513 Timing is nothing you can just imitate, especially with live instrumentalists when tempo differs, it's talent and the moment of truth whether a musician feels the music or not. Angelina performed same song live in Brazil, faster tempo, different phrasing. If you refer to the original by Dinah Washington, it's similar but I don't like her phrasing, she often pauses after the first word of a sentence, which sounds unnatural and chopped.
Do you have any proof about auto-tune, or just trying to show off? NEVER heard anybody say that before. Throwing it out like a little aside is a cheap shot.
I posted to you before when you mentioned autotune and Angelina Jordan. I am familiar with autotune and similar tools used in studio and onstage. I am an insider here. Let me say it once again. NO AUTOTUNE IS USED BUY ANGELINA JORDAN. NONE. PERIOD. As it relates to this artist you are leading listeners astray here. I have FIRST HAND knowledge on this. NO AUTOTUNE. She will not allow it either in studio or in live performances. Perhaps you are cynical because so many famous singers use it for small or large corrections. Angelina does NOT. Perhaps it is difficult to believe but Angelina will do as many takes as need be to get it right. Your “professional hearing” failed you here. Her perfection in runs is astonishing. They must be heard in person without a microphone to fully appreciate her artistry. Misinformation in this case is unfair and damaging. You should not ASSUME that which you do not know just because you have not the ability to comprehend this level of talent. I am sure a lot of singers use this tool. I know it’s common. But once again because I do know FOR A FACT. So, for the last time, then I am going to give up on convincing you: NO AUTOTUNE FOR ANGELINA! PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION. You misheard. I know this as a pure fact. Stop making baseless assumptions. It’s embarrassing.
No autotune there nor anywhere!
How do you know? You must be the producer?
@@dannytheswedishmusixian1513 Compare to your twenty years of experience, I must plead ignorance.
It seems to me that Angelina cannot use autotune in a public venue, nor at home, in her little music corner.
As for other venues, like a recording studio, sure the autotune can be useful, as you were saying.
Am I still wrong?
I mean it's possible to use AT in a public venue but I've never heard any of that in any of AJ's performances and good/great singers like her don't use that live. You are not wrong. It's just a tool that can be used.
@@dannytheswedishmusixian1513 Thank you, Danny!
@@dannytheswedishmusixian1513 Let me jump into this discussion, giving my 5 cents. Also from a singers point of view, co-producing our own music.
I am pretty much sure Angelina is not doing any kind of auto-tune. I am well aware of what that is, both for correcting pitch, and just for effect. The reason I say this, is not that it is wrong to use it, but simply because I have heard every run, and every note Angelina has done in her life. She is fully capable of doing all of them right out of her mouth. And that is what I hear, also with a trained ear.
I also happen to know that autotune has been discussed within Angelinas family, and no, they are not a fan of any of it. They want her sound to be pure Angelina. So I am convinced that she would never accept Stargate, the Norwegian producing duo, to use it on her. She does not need it, and it would be a wrong step for her personally to use.
Reverb and other effects, well those are Stargate very fond of, and something Angelina (and I) supports. That is different.
So no, I strongly believe she is not using it.
There has been only 3 reactors mentioning it, as far as I know (you are the 3rd), of almost a thousand reactions to Angelina during the years. The vocal coach Elizabeth was far from sure, and said it just in her 3rd reaction of Angelina. Not knowing what Angelina fully can do, I can understand the assumption. But knowing what she is capable of, I am pretty sure she would never suggest it.
Angie really needs auto tune badly
Auto tune ain’t no good. I wanna hear pure talent! Thanks only my opinion.