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20:00. The Original Kung Fu TV series (1972) has been often accused of racism for the casting of David Carradine in the leading role, but critics usually disregard that it was the first Western which hero was not a cowboy, and which presented the Chinese masters as cultured, admirable people. It also showed the plight of Native Americans, and discrimination against non-white inhabitants. There is one episode in which a white landowner is intent on expelling a group of Chinese miners who own their mine and work it successfully ("Sun and cloud shadow"). Many of the subjects mentioned in this conversation were first presented to the American public in that series, set in California, around 1874.
The scariest part of living in a ghost town is having to get ghost water, ghost electricity, and all the other ghost infrastructure and making sure nobody exorcises it.
I’m a professional archaeologist and I can confirm that the entire town of Cerra Gordo is a historic archaeological site. The owner should contact a ‘nearby’ community college and arrange for an ongoing archaeological field school. Great experience for students, a source of income for the owner and probably great results historically and archaeologically.
I'm kinda interested. The owner often speaks about finding artifacts during the digging of the waterline... how is it legally in the US (or in the specific state)? By how he said that, it seems he and the workers just found something and kept it. Is it how it is in the US? Here in Europe (Czechia), you would be normally obliged to have at least an archaeologic supervision, and the finds would belong to the regional municipality. Now, usually, the turn of the 20th century artifacts wouldn't be considered archaeologically important here, so you would probably be able to keep them, but since it is a recognised archaeologic site, the situation could be potentially different, depwnding on its legal status...
@@toncek9981if it’s on tribal land all artifacts found must be made known to the tribe it belongs to. They can either decide to take it or let the finder have it. Outside of that it’s pretty much fair game. I don’t know the law exactly but it’s mostly “finders keepers” unless found on another’s private property, at least in Texas and Louisiana. As a lover of history I think we should handle it differently but oh well.
@@toncek9981 Yeah, the US is generally a lot more hands-off than other developed nations. There are pros and cons of course. Sadly there are likely a lot of archaeological finds that get discarded and possibly destroyed because the finder has an interest in preventing the place from being turned into an official archaeological site. Most sites are found during construction, and the company would be forced to suspend their work for a while if they were to report the find.
That token (coin) is how the miners would be paid. They were basically stuck working the mines because they didn’t make actual money, just “store credit”. They were basically indebted forever to the company. So when you hear that song Sixteen Tons, where he talks about being another day older and deeper in debt, and how he sold his soul to the company store, that is exactly what the song references.
Yes. There is a mining museum in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, that was a mining village too. Horrible pay, Horrible working conditions, Horrible housing. But the only other option for work was fishing there or later the army.
Yep, company towns that issued scrip or company currency were effectively like fascist micro-states because simply issuing their own money entirely controlled where workers could buy goods and entirely took away their economic autonomy.
I live in the Appalachian Mountains and they taught us about how miners used to be paid in scrip. Not only that, but one teacher told our class that the general store ran by the mine supposedly priced their stuff much higher than other stores that didn't take scrip.
That reminded me of a wonderful novel I read a few years ago - "Sarah Canary" by Karen Joy Fowler. The setting was railways rather than mining, but looking at those pictures really was like looking at the novel's protagonist. If you haven't read it, I recommend it! If you have, I'd love to know what you think ☺
@@celiashen5490 Fair enough. I really hope you enjoy it, I found it an exceptional piece of writing in many ways - and even though it's fiction, it is brilliantly well-researched ☺
Amusing Anecdote about Dynamite: My father was an Iron Worker (CA Union!) for 45yrs, thereabouts. He would sometimes be working on Bridges in the mountain passes, which would "ice" rather than snow (high altitude in SoCal). Dad was an affable man, and made nice with most folk. He especially made nice with the Demolitions guys. so one cold morning, the men were huddled tightly around burning 55gal drums, there was no room for the latecomers: My dad and the Demo guy, who'd carpooled. so the Demo guy went and pulled a full stick out of his truck and threw it in one of the fires! as you now know, it didn't blow, and, being fresh, wasn't prone to impact (requiring the power of a blasting cap, or electric fuse to set it off), but the rest of the guys didn't know that! so the guys went running away, and my dad and the demo guy got to have a whole fire to themselves! 🤣
You should do this more often. Go find a historical place, make food or a drink and sit down with the lical historian and discuss the history. It would be an awesome addition to the channel
I agree! I do think talking to a local historian would be a little better than an owner/investor… nothing against Brent, just would like to see the opinion of someone who isn’t motivated to advertise :)
@@nibblitman - Mr Brett does not seem to be burning down history for a profit. He seems to be very interested in preservation. But preservation costs money. He seems to be melding the two things.
One of the biggest surprises for young visitors is the smell. No plastics or synthetics, just wood, paper, metal, oil and natural fibers. It was one of the things that made visits to Sagamore Hill, Teddy Roosevelt's home, so 'different'. You really experienced the age of your surroundings with that first whiff of horse hair stuffed chairs, woolen carpets and polished wood...
20:00. The Original Kung Fu TV series (1972) has been often accused of racism for the casting of David Carradine in the leading role, but critics usually disregard that it was the first Western which hero was not a cowboy, and which presented the Chinese masters as cultured, admirable people. It also showed the plight of Native Americans, and discrimination against non-white inhabitants. There is one episode in which a white landowner is intent on expelling a group of Chinese miners who own their mine and work it successfully ("Sun and cloud shadow"). Many of the subjects mentioned in this conversation were first presented to the American public in that series, set in California, around 1874.
@@MrGksarathy I enjoyed very much watching the series in my childhood, as I never would have been able to otherwise get a glimpse of the literal other side of the world, so I was and am thankful that it exists. The Old West was flawed from OUR current mandatory perspective, but that was THEIR kind of "normal", and you would not have survived long if you were to try to install OUR "normality" in this different setting. To view works of art or literature grounded in a totally different historical and ideological environment does not do the respective periods justice, and leads to cringeworthy attempts to shoehorn into them our current and interchangeable (certainly not the last) viewpoints. This IMO is a recipe for failure. If everything is streamlined to a mandatory mainstream agenda/ procedure etc., then we loose not only the authenticity of the past, but fail at importing it into an equally interchangeable mindset du jour, only to be left stuck in the middle, achieving nothing useful or convincingly genuine. IN MY OPINION this is difficult and dangerous.The past and its manifestations are always there to educate us. But if eradicated or glossed over, we as human beings only tend to cyclically come up with the same (often very bad) ideas. No need to always invent the wheel anew.
@@sabinegierth-waniczek4872 Look, your experience is your experience, but that doesn't erase the fact that the show still engaged in a more paternalistic style racism, even if that was better for the time. Also, even if things were normal for an era, we can still judge by our own standards whether or not that's a good thing. That, and people back then absolutely knew they were racist, they just didn't see it as a bad thing.
It might be a desert, but the desert used to be a sea bed. That's an episode for Tasting Pre-History where we taste what was on the menu in the Panthalassic Ocean in the late Precambrian!
@@TROPiCOLA_YTThe Precambrian is way too early for trilobites, we’re talking squishy things with few if any hard parts, like the wonderfully named hallicigenia. For plants we’re limited to maybe blue-green algae. Apparently most of those life forms went extinct without contributing to current life forms but pretty much everything is descended from what did end up contributing, so you could substitute anything from earthworms to cattle, lemongrass to bananas.
@@markfergerson2145 - Mmmm - I bet lemongrass flavors would be great with bananas. I'll do it when I buy some 'nanas ( lucky enough to already have a big lemongrass plant ).
@@celiashen5490 No, in a lot of rural areas store owners and other locals will say, "You ain't from around here, are ya?" as a way of saying, "I know you're not one of us, so where are you from?" Store owners say that to me sometimes when they hear my accent because even though I grew up here, and spent most of my life here, I don't have a thick accent. So they automatically assume I'm not "one of them."
I am amazed at how the light source changes the color of this drink so much. The sunlight it looked like a pink color, the indoor shots much more amber.
@@jeremylastname873 White Balance is a camera adjustment. It will make your colors seen by the camera accurate or wrong. It will also help with very fine accuracy of how the camera does other things to take an accurate pic.
@@californiabrad Correct. I do light, LASERs, electronics, and imaging for a living and you summed it up well. What you are referring to is the color in person? Perhaps the absorption of something in the drink varies with UV or other content of the illumination. I may just have to try it myself.
Absolutely lovely to be a fly on the wall for this conversation. It is heartwarming and encouraging to hear the way that the both of you talk about history.
Dynamite came in sturdy wooden boxes. When I was young, back in the 60's, we used these empty boxes for part of the furniture. In recent times there are the plastic reproductions of milk crates that are used in the same way. The dynamite boxes, being wood, could be stained or painted.
In Canada, the miners were allowed to take the empty boxes home. If you were careful, you could disassemble them along the tongue and grooves and then use them as siding on the cabin you were building. We call those "powder box houses" and I know a few old mining communities where people still live in those homes to this day.
I've kept an old machine parts crate that belonged to my grandfather. I love that it's just so solid and a well made item that was made to be thrown out. I use it for tool storage in my shed just like my grandfather did.
Yay! Two of my fave YTers, chatting over cocktails, in "fancy glasses" no less!Max, you forgot to mention that it's Brent narrating the audiobook you were listening to! Brent, you should have spoken up, especially about how you recorded it down in one of the mines! (best sound-proof "booth" ever!) Would love to see the two of you collab on more old west recipes!
On the show Bonanza the family's cook was a Chinese immigrant Hop Sing played by the actor Victor Sen Yung. My family watched that show as well as Gun Smoke and the Rifleman. I loved those old shows as a child.
Who else is loving these old west themed episodes! Will definitely check this guy’s channel out! Been year for several years now and look forward to more years enjoying this gem of a channel!
You are in for a treat with Ghost Town living! I've been following Brent from the very beginning when he had a few thousand subscribers. I would highly suggest going to the beginning of his channel and start there. Enjoy the adventure, growth and excitement that Gost Town Living is so good at capturing. Cheers
I’ve seen Brent take some flack for modernizing but as someone in the architecture field with an interest in history I really applaud what he is going. This is a town that very much might have ended up lost to the sands of time without intervention or been completely changed into a modern mockery of what it was by a different owner. I think some people have a really romanticized idea of what should have been done with the town but I think Brent and the partners and volunteers are good caretakers. I think Brent has the perfect balance of respecting the history and what was while making sure to preserve it and modernize it in an affront to keep it accessible for people today and in the future. He’s basically taken adaptive re-use to the extreme, preserving what he can of what tangibly exists of the historical elements while playing off what’s no longer there in his modern rebuilds and making it usable once again. There’s a certain zeitgeist I feel he is managing to capture while making sure it’s safe, accessible, educational, and prosperous today. I love seeing how the town is coming along from a person who obviously has a lot of respect for its history while also having a vision for its future.
I lived for 20 culturally interesting years in Varanasi, India, i got to see amazing acts of preservation and destruction. One early favourite: the riverside had several 19th century "vacation palaces" from a bunch of royals from around the undian subcontinent, and one in particular near the city centre was sought for preservation as well as for basic real estate. But because the "it belongs in a museum" idea was rampant from the uber-western point of view, nobody could buy it, nobody could preserve it, until the rules changed and some rich folks made the Brijrana hotel. Now it's a hotel, and they preserved the crazy 1920s elevator to the ghat built by the fat king who occasionally slept there.
@@titanuranus3095 "improved" and "preserved" the hotel with a propane tank while he gofundme'd his channel while sharing their money with his investment group.
I love it when two channels I love collaborate! I would love to see Brent chat with a historic fashion/ clothing channel to get some insight into the clothing that the miners and the ladies in Cerro Gordo would have been wearing.
Okay, I love that they brought a horse into the bar in that photo. "Hold up, guys, this might be the only picture we take for a while, it should be good! Imma get Clip-Clop!"
I have found that the episodes where Max can go somewhere to tell us about the history has a different demeanor to it. It’s like the place comes back to life. ❤
Love that Max used his kitchen down time to bring us this!! Its always nice to hear from a fellow historian and see such mutual respect for preservation
I love Max’s content and I especially love the look of this drink! I do wish there’d been a different channel to collaborate with for something like this, since Brent is an investor and not a historian. Maybe you could do more with a local museum curator or a historian in the future? Either way, always love you and your videos, Max! Keep making wonderful stuff!
I visited Cerro Gordo in 2022. Brent is such an awesome guy, so welcoming and happy to hang out and chat. Have only been watching Max for a couple of months but am a huge fan already. Love this collab!
Came for the Tasting/Drinking History ... but stayed for what promises to be another fascinating You Tube channel (thanks, Max, for introducing us to Brent Underwood and his amazing venture!)
Both Max and Brent are so good in front of the camera as individuals, and it makes their chemistry together absolutely wonderful. I love seeing these two talk about history, a topic they're both so passionate about, and seeing how the conversation just naturally flows. What a wonderful episode! Hope to see Cerro Gordo myself someday!
I love that you and others are preserving history on RUclips. I found you Max during the pandemic. I was delighted that two of my loves food and history was being talk about. The ghost town is now added to my RUclips viewing because of you. Thank you.
I’m a lot like Brent. I love history and learning about it. I too want to preserve some history. I hope I can be in a position to save a few places in my area one day.
Wow. I teared up a little bit. The care that Brent is putting into this town, the community that's been built around it, and the history that's being rediscovered is incredible. Everything about this story is so endearing. Thank you for sharing ❤
Jerry Thomas’s book also has the very first recipe for what we now call Jello Shots. I’ve been trying to get literally any historical food-tuber to pick it up and do a video on it.
@@TastingHistory oh cool! Cocktail scholarship is sort of my thing so I’m really excited to find out there’s a source I missed. Could you point me to the earlier ones? I really want to see how they evolved since the inception of gelatin extraction.
@@thecupthatcheers9763 I am genuinely not surprised Jerry Thomas co-opted an older recipe. Most of the cocktails credited to him actually predate his book.
Wonderful video Max and thank you José for the captions! I love that you spoke about the Chinese and Mexican miners. People think about the gold rush(es) and only think about the white people that came not the others. In the Yukon the native peoples were not allowed to own mines but often partnered with white people. There are several successful families here that we're in such partnerships. I can't mention the Yukon on drinking history without mentioning the Sourtoe. In Dawson city they have this drink and club called the sourtoe: 1 ounce (minimum) of alcohol 1 dehydrated toe garnish with courage It started with a frozen and alcohol pickled toe from a rum-runner. To get in the club you have to drink the alcohol and allow the your to touch your lip. Miners were mad, it was the mercury.
This cocktail is just an old fashioned, just presented differently. Cocktail as a descriptor is specifically spirit, sugar, bitters, ice. So a whiskey cocktail is this recipe, a brandy cocktail just used brandy instead of whiskey etc. Then you get iterations on the cocktail (later old fashioned) with "The improved whiskey cocktail" and "The Sazerac." The variations were enough that one would want to order your cocktail "in the old fashioned way," which was later shortened to old fashioned. Imbibe has a lot of history with cocktail and drink history.
The cross over I needed! I've been watching both of you since you both started! You both made the Pandemic so much better for people like me who went from living a life of working, eat, sleep, repeat to just nothing for over a year. I got to explore my interests for the first time and left my corporate girl boss behind finally.
When I started in construction in Kansas City, Missouri, part of my job as an apprentice was to get coffee at 6:00 a.m. for the journeymen. "The Quaff" bar was the only place open and that's where I went. There were people in there at 6:00 a.m. starting to drink and still drinking from the night before (not coffee). So bars opening that early are still a thing.
@@TastingHistoryI was having a crummy day and you definitely perked things up! Thank you ❤️ I also love this whole Wild West theme. A very creative and clever way to film while your kitchen gets an upgrade.
Historical Footnote: DuPont was the original company that produced Dynamite under a exclusive license with Nobel as the Giant Powder Company subsidiary. In October 18, 1912 DuPont was forced to spinoff to two new companies, the Hercules Powder Company, capitalized at $13 million, and the Atlas Powder Company, capitalized at $6 million. This left the 3 in the Market as Atlas, Hercules, and DuPont.
This was so cool to watch! I live about 45 min away from the calico ghost town, been there a few times! Tho I'm sure it's nothing like this! Props to this guy for keeping the history of the place alive! Thanks for sharing and doing all you do!
I’ve been following Brent’s journey since day one. Love this! Also, in the 1860s, their whiskey of choice may very well have been Monongahela Rye from Pennsylvania. In those days, Mon Rye was world famous, especially Overholt from West Overton, Pa. It’s rumored to be the favorite whiskey of characters like Doc Holliday and you can still find it today. Check it out. Cheers!
Shipped indeed from the poles, usually meant for deeper special cooling-huts in rich people's gardens (at least in the UK for instance). Such a different time, kinda surprised it survived to the dessert though.
Actually there is a trick to making ice in hot dry environments as long as you have water build a special type of chimney to your water/ice house that catches blowing wind and forces it down the chimney and because heat travels up only the cold air got blasted down which would freeze the water
You could harvest ice in the Winters. There was no need to go to the Poles. Also, lately i learned that the Persians were able to produce ice. ( not shure if i learned that here xD)
The idea of owning a town that you can learn about and explore sounds so amazing! It’s great that the real estate broker was convinced by Brent’s interest in the area, even though others were already asking about buying the town.
I really enjoyed seeing this chat, Max - I actually remember seeing bits of the whole buying a ghost town thing from 'round then, and as far as I remember it popped up with your videos, haha! It was fate. Really interesting look into the history of mining in the west.
Brent has created one of the most compelling RUclips channels. If you haven't seen it, watch it from the beginning. The first two years of his full time life there is such an incredible story!
I was fortunate enough to be able to spend a week at Hampton Court in England years ago. I feel a part of that history now. Getting to stay and contribute to history is the way to seriously connect with and own history. Great work, Brent!
This series has been really cool. Such a brilliant idea while the kitchen is being renovated! Thanks for introducing us to the host of the ghost town 💚
I love his channel! If you're just now finding out about Brent and his awesome town you should absolutely go to his channel and see all the progress he's made.
Fun fact! If your watching a western and see boxes or barrels that say black powder, that is wrong because black powder was not called that until smokeless powder was invented! Have a great day and thank you!
Hey there, my family does kind of own most of a ghost town in Montana. Not a big one it's just a deserted old farming town, Laredo. We don't have any original buildings but there's still some foundations around. As well as the two grain elevators next to the railroads tracks that are used by the Burlington Northern Santa Fe as storage railroad tracks. My dad owns one of the last buildings that still there was a grocery store as far as I know that's now a house that we rent out. My great grandfather actually worked at the grain elevator for years. There's a picture of the town in its heyday but I don't know where it is right now.
two channels ive watched since they were a couple of months old finding one another and collaborating on something this cool is about the best thing ever. max go raid your former coworkers at disney and make this town truly alive again! this so freaking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wonderfully informative and eye-opening. Thank you for discussing the facets that are usually overlooked, including Chinese and other minority groups who were vital parts of the history and community. I'm putting Cerro Gordo on my travel list! You're both terrific and I appreciate this collaboration.
Huge congratulations on signing with CAA! Well earned. I'm excited to discover what opportunities will unfold for you and your brand. I love your videos so much and recommend them often.
The drink is really similar to Old Fashion, which makes sence considering the time. I really like it, but angostura bitters are hard to come by here, so I save my bottle for special occasion.
The old fashioned evolved from this cocktail, and it really wasn't much of a change. Where are you in the world that Angostura bitters are scarce? It's literally on the shelf, always in stock at every grocery and liquor store I go to.
@@LMDetorie I'm from Denmark so I can waffle off traditional bitter names for half an hour and still not be done, but Angostura is basically mail-order-only unless you're a commercial venue uses a better-than-average catering service.
You mentioned that at the time, the town of Cerra Gordo was part of Mexico, and that most of the miners would have been Mexican. And while this is true, I still chuckle when I translated the name of the town -- Cerra Gordo -- into Spanish. It means "Fat Hill." 😄 That must have been a reference to the mines, and the abundance of silver, lead and other minerals being pulled out of them.
I remember when Brent first started making videos and living in the town. He would live there alone for a few months at a time at first. One of his craziest videos was the first time he spent a night in the mine. The town and Brent have come a long way since then.
Hey Max, no idea if you're going to read this or reply to it, but I'm going to say it anyway: You are, if I'm being honest, one of the best. Right up there with some of the old PBS cooking shows and educational content. You could easily have been on Public Broadcasting or the History Channel back when they were doing cooking shows and actual history content instead of so-called "Reality TV". Your channel has the best of both worlds: food for the belly and food for thought. Seriously delicious content in both cases - keep it up man!
Love seeing Brent being interviewed, his energy is totally different from his videos. His passion is also showing through in a different but awesome way
I love when two of my favorite channels get together. I am loving this new vibe that you get when you are talking about the history of food/drinks on the site of history that its from. I know its temporary but gonna love it while I can. Thanks to Brent and Max for the fun!
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20:00. The Original Kung Fu TV series (1972) has been often accused of racism for the casting of David Carradine in the leading role, but critics usually disregard that it was the first Western which hero was not a cowboy, and which presented the Chinese masters as cultured, admirable people.
It also showed the plight of Native Americans, and discrimination against non-white inhabitants. There is one episode in which a white landowner is intent on expelling a group of Chinese miners who own their mine and work it successfully ("Sun and cloud shadow"). Many of the subjects mentioned in this conversation were first presented to the American public in that series, set in California, around 1874.
Max, could you investigte chop suey? I think it was a really intereresting and important piece of the US history.
Wow do you even know who this guy is max?
Max just saw your collab video with Babish. You should do like a 18+ adult only food related recipes. I'm sure there is plenty lol
The scariest part of living in a ghost town is having to get ghost water, ghost electricity, and all the other ghost infrastructure and making sure nobody exorcises it.
🤣🤣🤣
and ghost guns to protect yourself
Watch out for Ghost NIMBY.
It’s always tough to make sure your ghost taxes are filed on time
Can't let your ghost infrastructure go jogging, otherwise they might exorcise themselves.
I’m a professional archaeologist and I can confirm that the entire town of Cerra Gordo is a historic archaeological site. The owner should contact a ‘nearby’ community college and arrange for an ongoing archaeological field school. Great experience for students, a source of income for the owner and probably great results historically and archaeologically.
Yeah, just make sure the mine shaft access points are locked up tight to 'em, haha
I'm kinda interested. The owner often speaks about finding artifacts during the digging of the waterline... how is it legally in the US (or in the specific state)? By how he said that, it seems he and the workers just found something and kept it. Is it how it is in the US? Here in Europe (Czechia), you would be normally obliged to have at least an archaeologic supervision, and the finds would belong to the regional municipality. Now, usually, the turn of the 20th century artifacts wouldn't be considered archaeologically important here, so you would probably be able to keep them, but since it is a recognised archaeologic site, the situation could be potentially different, depwnding on its legal status...
@@toncek9981if it’s on tribal land all artifacts found must be made known to the tribe it belongs to. They can either decide to take it or let the finder have it.
Outside of that it’s pretty much fair game. I don’t know the law exactly but it’s mostly “finders keepers” unless found on another’s private property, at least in Texas and Louisiana.
As a lover of history I think we should handle it differently but oh well.
@@ericsilver9401 A hooplehead's dirty old jeans aren't exactly part of native historical heritage.
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Yeah, the US is generally a lot more hands-off than other developed nations. There are pros and cons of course. Sadly there are likely a lot of archaeological finds that get discarded and possibly destroyed because the finder has an interest in preventing the place from being turned into an official archaeological site. Most sites are found during construction, and the company would be forced to suspend their work for a while if they were to report the find.
That token (coin) is how the miners would be paid. They were basically stuck working the mines because they didn’t make actual money, just “store credit”. They were basically indebted forever to the company. So when you hear that song Sixteen Tons, where he talks about being another day older and deeper in debt, and how he sold his soul to the company store, that is exactly what the song references.
Yes. There is a mining museum in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, that was a mining village too. Horrible pay, Horrible working conditions, Horrible housing. But the only other option for work was fishing there or later the army.
Yep, company towns that issued scrip or company currency were effectively like fascist micro-states because simply issuing their own money entirely controlled where workers could buy goods and entirely took away their economic autonomy.
@@rlt9492How were they fascist?
I live in the Appalachian Mountains and they taught us about how miners used to be paid in scrip. Not only that, but one teacher told our class that the general store ran by the mine supposedly priced their stuff much higher than other stores that didn't take scrip.
Blue Sky Mine by Midnight Oil has the same vibe.
Great info guys as a a first gen Chinese American I always nice to hear about forgotten parts of Chinese American history.
Me too!!! My friend (directly from Mainland China) cheered when she saw the old pics.
That reminded me of a wonderful novel I read a few years ago - "Sarah Canary" by Karen Joy Fowler. The setting was railways rather than mining, but looking at those pictures really was like looking at the novel's protagonist. If you haven't read it, I recommend it! If you have, I'd love to know what you think ☺
@@1midnightfish Thanks for the suggestion! Please forgive me if I don't come back with an opinion. I might get lost on the way back.
@@celiashen5490 Fair enough. I really hope you enjoy it, I found it an exceptional piece of writing in many ways - and even though it's fiction, it is brilliantly well-researched ☺
@@1midnightfish Sounds like a worthy addition to my library.
I like that they specified that the glass had to be fancy 🍷 ✨
What, why? You weren't going to put this into a plastic Dollarama wineglass?
@@jwalster9412 But did they have plastic drinking glasses back then?
@@yearginclarke Don't think so
😂 let's show our pinky finger and get blasted. Cheers Darling!
Arsonists cant drink from regular classes, it has to be fancy so he can larp self-sufficency.
Amusing Anecdote about Dynamite:
My father was an Iron Worker (CA Union!) for 45yrs, thereabouts. He would sometimes be working on Bridges in the mountain passes, which would "ice" rather than snow (high altitude in SoCal).
Dad was an affable man, and made nice with most folk. He especially made nice with the Demolitions guys.
so one cold morning, the men were huddled tightly around burning 55gal drums, there was no room for the latecomers: My dad and the Demo guy, who'd carpooled. so the Demo guy went and pulled a full stick out of his truck and threw it in one of the fires!
as you now know, it didn't blow, and, being fresh, wasn't prone to impact (requiring the power of a blasting cap, or electric fuse to set it off), but the rest of the guys didn't know that! so the guys went running away, and my dad and the demo guy got to have a whole fire to themselves! 🤣
Amazing story. 😺
Those scaliwags!
You should do this more often. Go find a historical place, make food or a drink and sit down with the lical historian and discuss the history. It would be an awesome addition to the channel
I wish he would find somewhere that didn’t burn down history for a profit though.
@@nibblitmanWhat nonsense. Go invent some other implausible conspiracy theory whilst you’re at it.
I agree! I do think talking to a local historian would be a little better than an owner/investor… nothing against Brent, just would like to see the opinion of someone who isn’t motivated to advertise :)
this brent guy is not a historian, lmao
@@nibblitman - Mr Brett does not seem to be burning down history for a profit. He seems to be very interested in preservation. But preservation costs money. He seems to be melding the two things.
The 1st picture at 1:02 looks like the start of a joke. "A horse walks into a bar...."
Is this going to be addressed in the video? I scrolled down as soon as I saw it...
The bartender asks, "Why the long face?"
Reminds me of the images of Roy Rogers who took his well trained horse, Trigger, into clubs and even hospitals to visit sick kids.
Asks the bartender "what's that Lion on the floor?)
Beeta da hoos is hia
One of the biggest surprises for young visitors is the smell. No plastics or synthetics, just wood, paper, metal, oil and natural fibers. It was one of the things that made visits to Sagamore Hill, Teddy Roosevelt's home, so 'different'. You really experienced the age of your surroundings with that first whiff of horse hair stuffed chairs, woolen carpets and polished wood...
Wow, nice.
yeah the smell of Felony and Arson is strong with Brent, what a piece of s
Man, Max you put out so much content I'm honestly surprised. It's always a joy to see your new videos pop up. keep up the great work my dude!
20:00. The Original Kung Fu TV series (1972) has been often accused of racism for the casting of David Carradine in the leading role, but critics usually disregard that it was the first Western which hero was not a cowboy, and which presented the Chinese masters as cultured, admirable people.
It also showed the plight of Native Americans, and discrimination against non-white inhabitants. There is one episode in which a white landowner is intent on expelling a group of Chinese miners who own their mine and work it successfully ("Sun and cloud shadow"). Many of the subjects mentioned in this conversation were first presented to the American public in that series, set in California, around 1874.
Lmao RIP David 🪢
I mean, that's still racist, just a different kind of racism/less racist. Lots of books from the heyday of imperialism take a similar tack.
Cheez, that show was awesome. Who would be offended by it. Idiots.
@@MrGksarathy I enjoyed very much watching the series in my childhood, as I never would have been able to otherwise get a glimpse of the literal other side of the world, so I was and am thankful that it exists.
The Old West was flawed from OUR current mandatory perspective, but that was THEIR kind of "normal", and you would not have survived long if you were to try to install OUR "normality" in this different setting.
To view works of art or literature grounded in a totally different historical and ideological environment does not do the respective periods justice, and leads to cringeworthy attempts to shoehorn into them our current and interchangeable (certainly not the last) viewpoints.
This IMO is a recipe for failure. If everything is streamlined to a mandatory mainstream agenda/ procedure etc., then we loose not only the authenticity of the past, but fail at importing it into an equally interchangeable mindset du jour, only to be left stuck in the middle, achieving nothing useful or convincingly genuine.
IN MY OPINION this is difficult and dangerous.The past and its manifestations are always there to educate us. But if eradicated or glossed over, we as human beings only tend to cyclically come up with the same (often very bad) ideas. No need to always invent the wheel anew.
@@sabinegierth-waniczek4872 Look, your experience is your experience, but that doesn't erase the fact that the show still engaged in a more paternalistic style racism, even if that was better for the time. Also, even if things were normal for an era, we can still judge by our own standards whether or not that's a good thing. That, and people back then absolutely knew they were racist, they just didn't see it as a bad thing.
It might be a desert, but the desert used to be a sea bed. That's an episode for Tasting Pre-History where we taste what was on the menu in the Panthalassic Ocean in the late Precambrian!
"now, I looked, but I couldn't get my hands on trilobite meat, so I'm substituting langostino"
@@TROPiCOLA_YT LOL. OH MY GOSH, STOP. 😂 I read that in Max's voice and it was a perfect fit.
@@TROPiCOLA_YTThe Precambrian is way too early for trilobites, we’re talking squishy things with few if any hard parts, like the wonderfully named hallicigenia. For plants we’re limited to maybe blue-green algae.
Apparently most of those life forms went extinct without contributing to current life forms but pretty much everything is descended from what did end up contributing, so you could substitute anything from earthworms to cattle, lemongrass to bananas.
Me too!
@@markfergerson2145 - Mmmm - I bet lemongrass flavors would be great with bananas. I'll do it when I buy some 'nanas ( lucky enough to already have a big lemongrass plant ).
*Random guy: Walks into bar, orders this drink.*
*Everyone else: You ain't from round here, are ya?*
We don't take kindly to 'round here
Shouldn't it be "Round Now" instead?
@@celiashen5490 no
@@celiashen5490 No, in a lot of rural areas store owners and other locals will say, "You ain't from around here, are ya?" as a way of saying, "I know you're not one of us, so where are you from?" Store owners say that to me sometimes when they hear my accent because even though I grew up here, and spent most of my life here, I don't have a thick accent. So they automatically assume I'm not "one of them."
".....& You ain't got no horns, fella"
I am amazed at how the light source changes the color of this drink so much. The sunlight it looked like a pink color, the indoor shots much more amber.
White balance?
@@jeremylastname873 White Balance is a camera adjustment. It will make your colors seen by the camera accurate or wrong. It will also help with very fine accuracy of how the camera does other things to take an accurate pic.
@@californiabrad
Correct. I do light, LASERs, electronics, and imaging for a living and you summed it up well.
What you are referring to is the color in person? Perhaps the absorption of something in the drink varies with UV or other content of the illumination. I may just have to try it myself.
Absolutely lovely to be a fly on the wall for this conversation.
It is heartwarming and encouraging to hear the way that the both of you talk about history.
Definitely I vote for more Max interviews with people
Both are Legends.
It’s a good week when Max Miller posts 2 videos in a week!
For sure!
9AM cocktails, Go for it Max!
5pm somewhere as they say 😂
Hey, 5 o'clock was 16 hours ago!
Day Drinking with -Seth Meyers- Tasting History
If you worked the night shift, why would you not have a wake up.
Dynamite came in sturdy wooden boxes. When I was young, back in the 60's, we used these empty boxes for part of the furniture. In recent times there are the plastic reproductions of milk crates that are used in the same way. The dynamite boxes, being wood, could be stained or painted.
In Canada, the miners were allowed to take the empty boxes home. If you were careful, you could disassemble them along the tongue and grooves and then use them as siding on the cabin you were building. We call those "powder box houses" and I know a few old mining communities where people still live in those homes to this day.
I've kept an old machine parts crate that belonged to my grandfather. I love that it's just so solid and a well made item that was made to be thrown out. I use it for tool storage in my shed just like my grandfather did.
never i've been happier that max covered old west history. literally my biggest fav
I’m obsessed with the old west too
Hopefully we get a crossover with Cowboy Kent Rollins one day.
@@michaelstein7510Yes!
I love that they preserved the town instead of erasing it. It looks like a fun place to visit.
Yay! Two of my fave YTers, chatting over cocktails, in "fancy glasses" no less!Max, you forgot to mention that it's Brent narrating the audiobook you were listening to! Brent, you should have spoken up, especially about how you recorded it down in one of the mines! (best sound-proof "booth" ever!) Would love to see the two of you collab on more old west recipes!
On the show Bonanza the family's cook was a Chinese immigrant Hop Sing played by the actor Victor Sen Yung. My family watched that show as well as Gun Smoke and the Rifleman. I loved those old shows as a child.
Who else is loving these old west themed episodes! Will definitely check this guy’s channel out!
Been year for several years now and look forward to more years enjoying this gem of a channel!
You are in for a treat with Ghost Town living! I've been following Brent from the very beginning when he had a few thousand subscribers. I would highly suggest going to the beginning of his channel and start there. Enjoy the adventure, growth and excitement that Gost Town Living is so good at capturing. Cheers
Mememe 🤗🤗🤗
I’ve seen Brent take some flack for modernizing but as someone in the architecture field with an interest in history I really applaud what he is going. This is a town that very much might have ended up lost to the sands of time without intervention or been completely changed into a modern mockery of what it was by a different owner. I think some people have a really romanticized idea of what should have been done with the town but I think Brent and the partners and volunteers are good caretakers. I think Brent has the perfect balance of respecting the history and what was while making sure to preserve it and modernize it in an affront to keep it accessible for people today and in the future. He’s basically taken adaptive re-use to the extreme, preserving what he can of what tangibly exists of the historical elements while playing off what’s no longer there in his modern rebuilds and making it usable once again. There’s a certain zeitgeist I feel he is managing to capture while making sure it’s safe, accessible, educational, and prosperous today. I love seeing how the town is coming along from a person who obviously has a lot of respect for its history while also having a vision for its future.
Didn't the hotel burn down after he learned that he couldn't air b-n-b it?
@@titanuranus3095 I was sort of curious about that as well...
i think you meant effort instead of affront
I lived for 20 culturally interesting years in Varanasi, India, i got to see amazing acts of preservation and destruction.
One early favourite: the riverside had several 19th century "vacation palaces" from a bunch of royals from around the undian subcontinent, and one in particular near the city centre was sought for preservation as well as for basic real estate. But because the "it belongs in a museum" idea was rampant from the uber-western point of view, nobody could buy it, nobody could preserve it, until the rules changed and some rich folks made the Brijrana hotel.
Now it's a hotel, and they preserved the crazy 1920s elevator to the ghat built by the fat king who occasionally slept there.
@@titanuranus3095 "improved" and "preserved" the hotel with a propane tank while he gofundme'd his channel while sharing their money with his investment group.
I love it when two channels I love collaborate! I would love to see Brent chat with a historic fashion/ clothing channel to get some insight into the clothing that the miners and the ladies in Cerro Gordo would have been wearing.
Okay, I love that they brought a horse into the bar in that photo. "Hold up, guys, this might be the only picture we take for a while, it should be good! Imma get Clip-Clop!"
The origin of 'a horse walks into a bar' joke
A horse walks into a bar and the photographer says "this punchline is so overused. Cheese!" @macklinillustration
2:17 Idk why that fade in to "I took them from here" cracked me up like you just snuck in and hid them under your coat hahahah
Max posting twice this week?! And it’s a Drinking History episode today! This is a rare treat.
We your fans thank you
Yay thanks for watching both.
TWO VIDEOS IN ONE WEEK
From time to time 😁
@@TastingHistory Thank you!
I have found that the episodes where Max can go somewhere to tell us about the history has a different demeanor to it. It’s like the place comes back to life. ❤
Love that Max used his kitchen down time to bring us this!! Its always nice to hear from a fellow historian and see such mutual respect for preservation
I love Max’s content and I especially love the look of this drink! I do wish there’d been a different channel to collaborate with for something like this, since Brent is an investor and not a historian. Maybe you could do more with a local museum curator or a historian in the future? Either way, always love you and your videos, Max! Keep making wonderful stuff!
Nothin like a fancy 9 am cocktail in a ghost town!
It must not have been that good because they just took that one sip during the whole interview 😅😂
@@agenaw2877 90% Jack D will do that to any drink...
I visited Cerro Gordo in 2022. Brent is such an awesome guy, so welcoming and happy to hang out and chat. Have only been watching Max for a couple of months but am a huge fan already. Love this collab!
Came for the Tasting/Drinking History ... but stayed for what promises to be another fascinating You Tube channel (thanks, Max, for introducing us to Brent Underwood and his amazing venture!)
Both Max and Brent are so good in front of the camera as individuals, and it makes their chemistry together absolutely wonderful. I love seeing these two talk about history, a topic they're both so passionate about, and seeing how the conversation just naturally flows. What a wonderful episode! Hope to see Cerro Gordo myself someday!
Max literally looks like a 24 year old youth pastor without the beard and in that outfit
THE COLLAB I DIDNT KNOW I NEEDED been following Brent roughly 4 months in his ghost town journey before the American hotel burnt down
I love that you and others are preserving history on RUclips. I found you Max during the pandemic. I was delighted that two of my loves food and history was being talk about. The ghost town is now added to my RUclips viewing because of you. Thank you.
I’m a lot like Brent. I love history and learning about it. I too want to preserve some history. I hope I can be in a position to save a few places in my area one day.
It's a treat when two of my favorite RUclipsrs finally meet!
Wow. I teared up a little bit. The care that Brent is putting into this town, the community that's been built around it, and the history that's being rediscovered is incredible. Everything about this story is so endearing. Thank you for sharing ❤
Jerry Thomas’s book also has the very first recipe for what we now call Jello Shots.
I’ve been trying to get literally any historical food-tuber to pick it up and do a video on it.
It’s on my list, though they go back much further than Jerry Thomas. At least ones that used wine.
@@TastingHistory oh cool! Cocktail scholarship is sort of my thing so I’m really excited to find out there’s a source I missed.
Could you point me to the earlier ones? I really want to see how they evolved since the inception of gelatin extraction.
@@lushedleshen look for 18th century and earlier recipes for Wine Jelly.
@@thecupthatcheers9763 I am genuinely not surprised Jerry Thomas co-opted an older recipe.
Most of the cocktails credited to him actually predate his book.
Wonderful video Max and thank you José for the captions!
I love that you spoke about the Chinese and Mexican miners. People think about the gold rush(es) and only think about the white people that came not the others. In the Yukon the native peoples were not allowed to own mines but often partnered with white people. There are several successful families here that we're in such partnerships.
I can't mention the Yukon on drinking history without mentioning the Sourtoe. In Dawson city they have this drink and club called the sourtoe:
1 ounce (minimum) of alcohol
1 dehydrated toe
garnish with courage
It started with a frozen and alcohol pickled toe from a rum-runner. To get in the club you have to drink the alcohol and allow the your to touch your lip.
Miners were mad, it was the mercury.
Roughneck miners drinking dainty cocktails must have been a sight. Looking forward to making this. Very interesting old mining town.
Max should do a video about when people started thinking making booze palatable was a feminine thing.
@@naamadossantossilva4736yeah it’s ridiculous, I have no shame about liking a good cocktail
Those kind of drinks were probably for the women from the brothels.
This cocktail is just an old fashioned, just presented differently. Cocktail as a descriptor is specifically spirit, sugar, bitters, ice. So a whiskey cocktail is this recipe, a brandy cocktail just used brandy instead of whiskey etc. Then you get iterations on the cocktail (later old fashioned) with "The improved whiskey cocktail" and "The Sazerac." The variations were enough that one would want to order your cocktail "in the old fashioned way," which was later shortened to old fashioned. Imbibe has a lot of history with cocktail and drink history.
Ooh, you're running from some BIG feelings there, tough guy 🤣
I shall be most interested in Ghost Town Living. Brent Underwood has done a great job in the town itself.
Nice one Brent and Max! 🌟👍
“I TOOK THEM FROM HERE”
Taken out of context, that’s hilarious 😂
The cross over I needed! I've been watching both of you since you both started! You both made the Pandemic so much better for people like me who went from living a life of working, eat, sleep, repeat to just nothing for over a year. I got to explore my interests for the first time and left my corporate girl boss behind finally.
Max Miller is a master of the segue
When I started in construction in Kansas City, Missouri, part of my job as an apprentice was to get coffee at 6:00 a.m. for the journeymen. "The Quaff" bar was the only place open and that's where I went. There were people in there at 6:00 a.m. starting to drink and still drinking from the night before (not coffee). So bars opening that early are still a thing.
Always happy to see Max!
Happy to be seen
@@TastingHistoryI was having a crummy day and you definitely perked things up! Thank you ❤️
I also love this whole Wild West theme. A very creative and clever way to film while your kitchen gets an upgrade.
Historical Footnote:
DuPont was the original company that produced Dynamite under a exclusive license with Nobel as the Giant Powder Company subsidiary. In October 18, 1912 DuPont was forced to spinoff to two new companies, the Hercules Powder Company, capitalized at $13 million, and the Atlas Powder Company, capitalized at $6 million.
This left the 3 in the Market as Atlas, Hercules, and DuPont.
This was so cool to watch! I live about 45 min away from the calico ghost town, been there a few times! Tho I'm sure it's nothing like this! Props to this guy for keeping the history of the place alive! Thanks for sharing and doing all you do!
We've been following Brent for years too. It's so cool to see you both talking about history!
What a charming conversation and encouraging to see history preserved and brought to life.
I’ve been following Brent’s journey since day one. Love this! Also, in the 1860s, their whiskey of choice may very well have been Monongahela Rye from Pennsylvania. In those days, Mon Rye was world famous, especially Overholt from West Overton, Pa. It’s rumored to be the favorite whiskey of characters like Doc Holliday and you can still find it today. Check it out. Cheers!
I would think Ice would have been a real luxury during that time in history.
It was, but they had it. It’s amazing how far south they got ice and how effective ice houses were.
Shipped indeed from the poles, usually meant for deeper special cooling-huts in rich people's gardens (at least in the UK for instance). Such a different time, kinda surprised it survived to the dessert though.
Actually there is a trick to making ice in hot dry environments as long as you have water build a special type of chimney to your water/ice house that catches blowing wind and forces it down the chimney and because heat travels up only the cold air got blasted down which would freeze the water
You could harvest ice in the Winters. There was no need to go to the Poles. Also, lately i learned that the Persians were able to produce ice. ( not shure if i learned that here xD)
@@DrunkenDemon he did an episode on that! 😊
The idea of owning a town that you can learn about and explore sounds so amazing! It’s great that the real estate broker was convinced by Brent’s interest in the area, even though others were already asking about buying the town.
I really enjoyed seeing this chat, Max - I actually remember seeing bits of the whole buying a ghost town thing from 'round then, and as far as I remember it popped up with your videos, haha! It was fate. Really interesting look into the history of mining in the west.
Max you've GOT to make more episodes interview shows. This is great
Brent has created one of the most compelling RUclips channels. If you haven't seen it, watch it from the beginning. The first two years of his full time life there is such an incredible story!
That is so cool I love visiting places like this. I am glad there are still people who are excited about preserving this part of history.
Brent Rocks! I follow him seriously and he is genuine. Now I need that cocktail! thanks...
So fascinating. Thank you Max for helping to bring this to life.
I was fortunate enough to be able to spend a week at Hampton Court in England years ago. I feel a part of that history now. Getting to stay and contribute to history is the way to seriously connect with and own history. Great work, Brent!
This series has been really cool. Such a brilliant idea while the kitchen is being renovated! Thanks for introducing us to the host of the ghost town 💚
Great subject. Love how the Graveler blends into the background.
Max's segue to the sponsor was just as smooth as ever.
I've watched and loved Brent's channel since he started with Cerro Gordo during the first wave of Covid! I LOVE this collab!!!
Amazing! Bravo to this young man who decided to dedicate his life to preserving real history ! We need such people everywhere!
This was absolutely amazing Max and Brent!!! Thanks so much for doing this!!
I love his channel! If you're just now finding out about Brent and his awesome town you should absolutely go to his channel and see all the progress he's made.
So happy to see you both together! I think I started watching you both around the same time. I hope to visit Sero Goro some day.
Fun fact! If your watching a western and see boxes or barrels that say black powder, that is wrong because black powder was not called that until smokeless powder was invented! Have a great day and thank you!
So cool to see Max in the ghost town! I found Ghosttownliving a while back and was immediately fascinated.
Hey there, my family does kind of own most of a ghost town in Montana. Not a big one it's just a deserted old farming town, Laredo. We don't have any original buildings but there's still some foundations around. As well as the two grain elevators next to the railroads tracks that are used by the Burlington Northern Santa Fe as storage railroad tracks. My dad owns one of the last buildings that still there was a grocery store as far as I know that's now a house that we rent out.
My great grandfather actually worked at the grain elevator for years. There's a picture of the town in its heyday but I don't know where it is right now.
...not Laredo as in 'When I walked out in Laredo one day' Laredo?!
@@samovarsa2640 It's Laredo Montana, we have a sign next to the railroad tracks.
two channels ive watched since they were a couple of months old finding one another and collaborating on something this cool is about the best thing ever. max go raid your former coworkers at disney and make this town truly alive again! this so freaking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is really cool that people are returning artifacts because of his RUclips channel
Wonderfully informative and eye-opening. Thank you for discussing the facets that are usually overlooked, including Chinese and other minority groups who were vital parts of the history and community. I'm putting Cerro Gordo on my travel list! You're both terrific and I appreciate this collaboration.
That was amazing Max. More of this type of stuff. Go see an abandoned euro town
Huge congratulations on signing with CAA! Well earned. I'm excited to discover what opportunities will unfold for you and your brand. I love your videos so much and recommend them often.
The drink is really similar to Old Fashion, which makes sence considering the time. I really like it, but angostura bitters are hard to come by here, so I save my bottle for special occasion.
The old fashioned evolved from this cocktail, and it really wasn't much of a change. Where are you in the world that Angostura bitters are scarce? It's literally on the shelf, always in stock at every grocery and liquor store I go to.
@@LMDetorie Angostura is primarily distributed in the UK and Americas so anywhere outside of that it's harder and harder to get.
@@LMDetorie I'm from Denmark so I can waffle off traditional bitter names for half an hour and still not be done, but Angostura is basically mail-order-only unless you're a commercial venue uses a better-than-average catering service.
Back then they called it a "New Fashion"
So cool to see the two of you collaborating! I've been subscribed to both of you for a long time!!!
It’s 5 o’clock somewhere Max!! 😂❤
Great video Max! Love the interaction and history that just naturally comes out for all to learn. Keep it going and growing Max, ya rocking it bro!
You mentioned that at the time, the town of Cerra Gordo was part of Mexico, and that most of the miners would have been Mexican. And while this is true, I still chuckle when I translated the name of the town -- Cerra Gordo -- into Spanish. It means "Fat Hill." 😄 That must have been a reference to the mines, and the abundance of silver, lead and other minerals being pulled out of them.
That was an amazing episode. Two of our favorite You Tubers talking history.
Love this kind of content from you so much 💕!
Thank you 😊
I remember when Brent first started making videos and living in the town. He would live there alone for a few months at a time at first. One of his craziest videos was the first time he spent a night in the mine. The town and Brent have come a long way since then.
What a treat!! I have both of your books!! I love collaborations!
I am so excited that you did this collaboration! I have been following Ghost Town Living since Brent started. 🤗
This is the episode when the sitcom character shows why they actually went on vacation.
Hey Max, no idea if you're going to read this or reply to it, but I'm going to say it anyway:
You are, if I'm being honest, one of the best. Right up there with some of the old PBS cooking shows and educational content.
You could easily have been on Public Broadcasting or the History Channel back when they were doing cooking shows and actual history content instead of so-called "Reality TV".
Your channel has the best of both worlds: food for the belly and food for thought. Seriously delicious content in both cases - keep it up man!
I got almost the same feeling staying in a hotel in former East Berlin after the Wall came down. Also I like curry sausage
Absolutely love this! I want more cooking BUT I want to hear and see more about this town!!!
Yay! 2 hits of Max in one week! I think I need to get out more, but still! Love yer stuff, mijo ❤
Love seeing Brent being interviewed, his energy is totally different from his videos. His passion is also showing through in a different but awesome way
I love when two of my favorite channels get together. I am loving this new vibe that you get when you are talking about the history of food/drinks on the site of history that its from. I know its temporary but gonna love it while I can. Thanks to Brent and Max for the fun!
Max and Brent in the same video how awesome. My two favorite channels combined thanks guys made my day