Reviving an Old West Ghost Town with Brent Underwood

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  • @TastingHistory
    @TastingHistory  Месяц назад +89

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    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 29 дней назад +1

      Love your content max! You're the Best 😊😊😊

    • @MariaMartinez-researcher
      @MariaMartinez-researcher 29 дней назад +3

      20:00. The Original Kung Fu TV series (1972) has been often accused of racism for the casting of David Carradine in the leading role, but critics usually disregard that it was the first Western which hero was not a cowboy, and which presented the Chinese masters as cultured, admirable people.
      It also showed the plight of Native Americans, and discrimination against non-white inhabitants. There is one episode in which a white landowner is intent on expelling a group of Chinese miners who own their mine and work it successfully ("Sun and cloud shadow"). Many of the subjects mentioned in this conversation were first presented to the American public in that series, set in California, around 1874.

    • @passionfruitfruit
      @passionfruitfruit 29 дней назад +2

      Max, could you investigte chop suey? I think it was a really intereresting and important piece of the US history.

    • @aa-vk6hd
      @aa-vk6hd 29 дней назад

      Wow do you even know who this guy is max?

    • @wuazzap123
      @wuazzap123 29 дней назад

      Max just saw your collab video with Babish. You should do like a 18+ adult only food related recipes. I'm sure there is plenty lol

  • @lhfirex
    @lhfirex 29 дней назад +2170

    The scariest part of living in a ghost town is having to get ghost water, ghost electricity, and all the other ghost infrastructure and making sure nobody exorcises it.

    • @stephaniecowans3646
      @stephaniecowans3646 29 дней назад +25

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @zac0918
      @zac0918 29 дней назад +78

      and ghost guns to protect yourself

    • @zerwif
      @zerwif 29 дней назад +30

      Watch out for Ghost NIMBY.

    • @Lauren.E.O
      @Lauren.E.O 29 дней назад +54

      It’s always tough to make sure your ghost taxes are filed on time

    • @collin3012
      @collin3012 29 дней назад +37

      Can't let your ghost infrastructure go jogging, otherwise they might exorcise themselves.

  • @arofibook
    @arofibook 27 дней назад +243

    I’m a professional archaeologist and I can confirm that the entire town of Cerra Gordo is a historic archaeological site. The owner should contact a ‘nearby’ community college and arrange for an ongoing archaeological field school. Great experience for students, a source of income for the owner and probably great results historically and archaeologically.

    • @IronianKnight
      @IronianKnight 24 дня назад +6

      Yeah, just make sure the mine shaft access points are locked up tight to 'em, haha

    • @toncek9981
      @toncek9981 20 дней назад +6

      I'm kinda interested. The owner often speaks about finding artifacts during the digging of the waterline... how is it legally in the US (or in the specific state)? By how he said that, it seems he and the workers just found something and kept it. Is it how it is in the US? Here in Europe (Czechia), you would be normally obliged to have at least an archaeologic supervision, and the finds would belong to the regional municipality. Now, usually, the turn of the 20th century artifacts wouldn't be considered archaeologically important here, so you would probably be able to keep them, but since it is a recognised archaeologic site, the situation could be potentially different, depwnding on its legal status...

    • @ericsilver9401
      @ericsilver9401 20 дней назад +5

      @@toncek9981if it’s on tribal land all artifacts found must be made known to the tribe it belongs to. They can either decide to take it or let the finder have it.
      Outside of that it’s pretty much fair game. I don’t know the law exactly but it’s mostly “finders keepers” unless found on another’s private property, at least in Texas and Louisiana.
      As a lover of history I think we should handle it differently but oh well.

    • @Ironclad17
      @Ironclad17 3 дня назад

      @@ericsilver9401 A hooplehead's dirty old jeans aren't exactly part of native historical heritage.

    • @Hwyadylaw
      @Hwyadylaw 19 часов назад

      @@toncek9981
      Yeah, the US is generally a lot more hands-off than other developed nations. There are pros and cons of course. Sadly there are likely a lot of archaeological finds that get discarded and possibly destroyed because the finder has an interest in preventing the place from being turned into an official archaeological site. Most sites are found during construction, and the company would be forced to suspend their work for a while if they were to report the find.

  • @Lauren.E.O
    @Lauren.E.O 29 дней назад +729

    I like that they specified that the glass had to be fancy 🍷 ✨

    • @jwalster9412
      @jwalster9412 29 дней назад +6

      What, why? You weren't going to put this into a plastic Dollarama wineglass?

    • @yearginclarke
      @yearginclarke 29 дней назад +2

      @@jwalster9412 But did they have plastic drinking glasses back then?

    • @MrFredstt
      @MrFredstt 29 дней назад +3

      @@yearginclarke Don't think so

    • @satanmitdengeilenbarthaaren
      @satanmitdengeilenbarthaaren 28 дней назад

      😂 let's show our pinky finger and get blasted. Cheers Darling!

    • @spektri2297
      @spektri2297 27 дней назад

      Arsonists cant drink from regular classes, it has to be fancy so he can larp self-sufficency.

  • @sevenandthelittlestmew
    @sevenandthelittlestmew 29 дней назад +434

    That token (coin) is how the miners would be paid. They were basically stuck working the mines because they didn’t make actual money, just “store credit”. They were basically indebted forever to the company. So when you hear that song Sixteen Tons, where he talks about being another day older and deeper in debt, and how he sold his soul to the company store, that is exactly what the song references.

    • @lenabreijer1311
      @lenabreijer1311 29 дней назад +48

      Yes. There is a mining museum in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, that was a mining village too. Horrible pay, Horrible working conditions, Horrible housing. But the only other option for work was fishing there or later the army.

    • @rlt9492
      @rlt9492 29 дней назад +52

      Yep, company towns that issued scrip or company currency were effectively like fascist micro-states because simply issuing their own money entirely controlled where workers could buy goods and entirely took away their economic autonomy.

    • @Sperminski
      @Sperminski 29 дней назад

      @@rlt9492How were they fascist?

    • @thenovicenovelist
      @thenovicenovelist 29 дней назад +39

      I live in the Appalachian Mountains and they taught us about how miners used to be paid in scrip. Not only that, but one teacher told our class that the general store ran by the mine supposedly priced their stuff much higher than other stores that didn't take scrip.

    • @asmith8692
      @asmith8692 29 дней назад +9

      Blue Sky Mine by Midnight Oil has the same vibe.

  • @jonnyliem
    @jonnyliem 29 дней назад +368

    Great info guys as a a first gen Chinese American I always nice to hear about forgotten parts of Chinese American history.

    • @celiashen5490
      @celiashen5490 29 дней назад +26

      Me too!!! My friend (directly from Mainland China) cheered when she saw the old pics.

    • @1midnightfish
      @1midnightfish 29 дней назад +13

      That reminded me of a wonderful novel I read a few years ago - "Sarah Canary" by Karen Joy Fowler. The setting was railways rather than mining, but looking at those pictures really was like looking at the novel's protagonist. If you haven't read it, I recommend it! If you have, I'd love to know what you think ☺

    • @celiashen5490
      @celiashen5490 29 дней назад +7

      @@1midnightfish Thanks for the suggestion! Please forgive me if I don't come back with an opinion. I might get lost on the way back.

    • @1midnightfish
      @1midnightfish 29 дней назад +6

      @@celiashen5490 Fair enough. I really hope you enjoy it, I found it an exceptional piece of writing in many ways - and even though it's fiction, it is brilliantly well-researched ☺

    • @celiashen5490
      @celiashen5490 29 дней назад +3

      @@1midnightfish Sounds like a worthy addition to my library.

  • @jameshall4385
    @jameshall4385 29 дней назад +212

    You should do this more often. Go find a historical place, make food or a drink and sit down with the lical historian and discuss the history. It would be an awesome addition to the channel

    • @nibblitman
      @nibblitman 27 дней назад +1

      I wish he would find somewhere that didn’t burn down history for a profit though.

    • @Hallonbot
      @Hallonbot 27 дней назад +5

      ⁠@@nibblitmanWhat nonsense. Go invent some other implausible conspiracy theory whilst you’re at it.

    • @ElizaGlide
      @ElizaGlide 27 дней назад

      I agree! I do think talking to a local historian would be a little better than an owner/investor… nothing against Brent, just would like to see the opinion of someone who isn’t motivated to advertise :)

  • @Spankypenguin1
    @Spankypenguin1 29 дней назад +312

    The 1st picture at 1:02 looks like the start of a joke. "A horse walks into a bar...."

    • @Bpaynee
      @Bpaynee 29 дней назад +4

      Is this going to be addressed in the video? I scrolled down as soon as I saw it...

    • @brianweaver327
      @brianweaver327 29 дней назад +42

      The bartender asks, "Why the long face?"

    • @Blondie42
      @Blondie42 29 дней назад +7

      Reminds me of the images of Roy Rogers who took his well trained horse, Trigger, into clubs and even hospitals to visit sick kids.

    • @adedow1333
      @adedow1333 29 дней назад +4

      Asks the bartender "what's that Lion on the floor?)

    • @alazdemirkiran6482
      @alazdemirkiran6482 15 дней назад

      Beeta da hoos is hia

  • @ZhovtoBlakytniy
    @ZhovtoBlakytniy 29 дней назад +296

    It might be a desert, but the desert used to be a sea bed. That's an episode for Tasting Pre-History where we taste what was on the menu in the Panthalassic Ocean in the late Precambrian!

    • @TROPiCOLA_YT
      @TROPiCOLA_YT 29 дней назад +105

      "now, I looked, but I couldn't get my hands on trilobite meat, so I'm substituting langostino"

    • @mikamagnol8931
      @mikamagnol8931 29 дней назад +25

      @@TROPiCOLA_YT LOL. OH MY GOSH, STOP. 😂 I read that in Max's voice and it was a perfect fit.

    • @markfergerson2145
      @markfergerson2145 29 дней назад +32

      @@TROPiCOLA_YTThe Precambrian is way too early for trilobites, we’re talking squishy things with few if any hard parts, like the wonderfully named hallicigenia. For plants we’re limited to maybe blue-green algae.
      Apparently most of those life forms went extinct without contributing to current life forms but pretty much everything is descended from what did end up contributing, so you could substitute anything from earthworms to cattle, lemongrass to bananas.

    • @EmMiller-wu3dy
      @EmMiller-wu3dy 28 дней назад +1

      Me too!

  • @mikeskelly2356
    @mikeskelly2356 29 дней назад +102

    One of the biggest surprises for young visitors is the smell. No plastics or synthetics, just wood, paper, metal, oil and natural fibers. It was one of the things that made visits to Sagamore Hill, Teddy Roosevelt's home, so 'different'. You really experienced the age of your surroundings with that first whiff of horse hair stuffed chairs, woolen carpets and polished wood...

    • @JustM2024
      @JustM2024 27 дней назад

      Wow, nice.

    • @spektri2297
      @spektri2297 27 дней назад

      yeah the smell of Felony and Arson is strong with Brent, what a piece of s

  • @iammaxhammer
    @iammaxhammer 29 дней назад +373

    *Random guy: Walks into bar, orders this drink.*
    *Everyone else: You ain't from round here, are ya?*

    • @jeffredfern3744
      @jeffredfern3744 29 дней назад +31

      We don't take kindly to 'round here

    • @celiashen5490
      @celiashen5490 29 дней назад +2

      Shouldn't it be "Round Now" instead?

    • @flamekiller3338
      @flamekiller3338 29 дней назад +4

      @@celiashen5490 no

    • @thenovicenovelist
      @thenovicenovelist 29 дней назад +7

      ​@@celiashen5490 No, in a lot of rural areas store owners and other locals will say, "You ain't from around here, are ya?" as a way of saying, "I know you're not one of us, so where are you from?" Store owners say that to me sometimes when they hear my accent because even though I grew up here, and spent most of my life here, I don't have a thick accent. So they automatically assume I'm not "one of them."

    • @robwoodring9437
      @robwoodring9437 29 дней назад +1

      ".....& You ain't got no horns, fella"

  • @christinegraham2579
    @christinegraham2579 29 дней назад +93

    It’s a good week when Max Miller posts 2 videos in a week!

  • @lisahoshowsky4251
    @lisahoshowsky4251 29 дней назад +137

    I’ve seen Brent take some flack for modernizing but as someone in the architecture field with an interest in history I really applaud what he is going. This is a town that very much might have ended up lost to the sands of time without intervention or been completely changed into a modern mockery of what it was by a different owner. I think some people have a really romanticized idea of what should have been done with the town but I think Brent and the partners and volunteers are good caretakers. I think Brent has the perfect balance of respecting the history and what was while making sure to preserve it and modernize it in an affront to keep it accessible for people today and in the future. He’s basically taken adaptive re-use to the extreme, preserving what he can of what tangibly exists of the historical elements while playing off what’s no longer there in his modern rebuilds and making it usable once again. There’s a certain zeitgeist I feel he is managing to capture while making sure it’s safe, accessible, educational, and prosperous today. I love seeing how the town is coming along from a person who obviously has a lot of respect for its history while also having a vision for its future.

    • @titanuranus3095
      @titanuranus3095 29 дней назад +35

      Didn't the hotel burn down after he learned that he couldn't air b-n-b it?

    • @hannahcollins1816
      @hannahcollins1816 29 дней назад +17

      ​@@titanuranus3095 I was sort of curious about that as well...

    • @flannelpillowcase6475
      @flannelpillowcase6475 29 дней назад +4

      i think you meant effort instead of affront

    • @archmage_of_the_aether
      @archmage_of_the_aether 29 дней назад +6

      I lived for 20 culturally interesting years in Varanasi, India, i got to see amazing acts of preservation and destruction.
      One early favourite: the riverside had several 19th century "vacation palaces" from a bunch of royals from around the undian subcontinent, and one in particular near the city centre was sought for preservation as well as for basic real estate. But because the "it belongs in a museum" idea was rampant from the uber-western point of view, nobody could buy it, nobody could preserve it, until the rules changed and some rich folks made the Brijrana hotel.
      Now it's a hotel, and they preserved the crazy 1920s elevator to the ghat built by the fat king who occasionally slept there.

    • @spiralswithinspirals
      @spiralswithinspirals 25 дней назад

      ​@@titanuranus3095 "improved" and "preserved" the hotel with a propane tank while he gofundme'd his channel while sharing their money with his investment group.

  • @MariaMartinez-researcher
    @MariaMartinez-researcher 29 дней назад +116

    20:00. The Original Kung Fu TV series (1972) has been often accused of racism for the casting of David Carradine in the leading role, but critics usually disregard that it was the first Western which hero was not a cowboy, and which presented the Chinese masters as cultured, admirable people.
    It also showed the plight of Native Americans, and discrimination against non-white inhabitants. There is one episode in which a white landowner is intent on expelling a group of Chinese miners who own their mine and work it successfully ("Sun and cloud shadow"). Many of the subjects mentioned in this conversation were first presented to the American public in that series, set in California, around 1874.

    • @kilgoretrout8896
      @kilgoretrout8896 29 дней назад +6

      Lmao RIP David 🪢

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy 29 дней назад +13

      I mean, that's still racist, just a different kind of racism/less racist. Lots of books from the heyday of imperialism take a similar tack.

    • @dj-kq4fz
      @dj-kq4fz 29 дней назад

      Cheez, that show was awesome. Who would be offended by it. Idiots.

    • @sabinegierth-waniczek4872
      @sabinegierth-waniczek4872 27 дней назад +6

      @@MrGksarathy I enjoyed very much watching the series in my childhood, as I never would have been able to otherwise get a glimpse of the literal other side of the world, so I was and am thankful that it exists.
      The Old West was flawed from OUR current mandatory perspective, but that was THEIR kind of "normal", and you would not have survived long if you were to try to install OUR "normality" in this different setting.
      To view works of art or literature grounded in a totally different historical and ideological environment does not do the respective periods justice, and leads to cringeworthy attempts to shoehorn into them our current and interchangeable (certainly not the last) viewpoints.
      This IMO is a recipe for failure. If everything is streamlined to a mandatory mainstream agenda/ procedure etc., then we loose not only the authenticity of the past, but fail at importing it into an equally interchangeable mindset du jour, only to be left stuck in the middle, achieving nothing useful or convincingly genuine.
      IN MY OPINION this is difficult and dangerous.The past and its manifestations are always there to educate us. But if eradicated or glossed over, we as human beings only tend to cyclically come up with the same (often very bad) ideas. No need to always invent the wheel anew.

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy 27 дней назад

      @@sabinegierth-waniczek4872 Look, your experience is your experience, but that doesn't erase the fact that the show still engaged in a more paternalistic style racism, even if that was better for the time. Also, even if things were normal for an era, we can still judge by our own standards whether or not that's a good thing. That, and people back then absolutely knew they were racist, they just didn't see it as a bad thing.

  • @lizzykayOT7
    @lizzykayOT7 29 дней назад +34

    I love that they preserved the town instead of erasing it. It looks like a fun place to visit.

  • @SgtMjr
    @SgtMjr 29 дней назад +163

    9AM cocktails, Go for it Max!

    • @carljansen3118
      @carljansen3118 29 дней назад +11

      5pm somewhere as they say 😂

    • @brianweaver327
      @brianweaver327 29 дней назад +3

      Hey, 5 o'clock was 16 hours ago!

    • @mcv2178
      @mcv2178 29 дней назад +3

      Day Drinking with -Seth Meyers- Tasting History

    • @erikschultz7166
      @erikschultz7166 28 дней назад

      If you worked the night shift, why would you not have a wake up.

  • @AlexandrianCodex
    @AlexandrianCodex 29 дней назад +109

    Absolutely lovely to be a fly on the wall for this conversation.
    It is heartwarming and encouraging to hear the way that the both of you talk about history.

    • @phranerphamily
      @phranerphamily 29 дней назад +5

      Definitely I vote for more Max interviews with people

    • @taniasteyn4078
      @taniasteyn4078 21 день назад +1

      Both are Legends.

  • @SataniSactify
    @SataniSactify 29 дней назад +149

    never i've been happier that max covered old west history. literally my biggest fav

    • @charlies8282
      @charlies8282 29 дней назад +2

      I’m obsessed with the old west too

    • @michaelstein7510
      @michaelstein7510 29 дней назад +2

      Hopefully we get a crossover with Cowboy Kent Rollins one day.

    • @EmMiller-wu3dy
      @EmMiller-wu3dy 28 дней назад +1

      @@michaelstein7510Yes!

  • @annalisette5897
    @annalisette5897 29 дней назад +53

    Dynamite came in sturdy wooden boxes. When I was young, back in the 60's, we used these empty boxes for part of the furniture. In recent times there are the plastic reproductions of milk crates that are used in the same way. The dynamite boxes, being wood, could be stained or painted.

    • @rockbutcher
      @rockbutcher 29 дней назад +16

      In Canada, the miners were allowed to take the empty boxes home. If you were careful, you could disassemble them along the tongue and grooves and then use them as siding on the cabin you were building. We call those "powder box houses" and I know a few old mining communities where people still live in those homes to this day.

    • @macklinillustration
      @macklinillustration 3 дня назад +2

      I've kept an old machine parts crate that belonged to my grandfather. I love that it's just so solid and a well made item that was made to be thrown out. I use it for tool storage in my shed just like my grandfather did.

  • @Malthael2797
    @Malthael2797 29 дней назад +136

    Man, Max you put out so much content I'm honestly surprised. It's always a joy to see your new videos pop up. keep up the great work my dude!

  • @californiabrad
    @californiabrad 29 дней назад +48

    I am amazed at how the light source changes the color of this drink so much. The sunlight it looked like a pink color, the indoor shots much more amber.

    • @jeremylastname873
      @jeremylastname873 26 дней назад

      White balance?

    • @californiabrad
      @californiabrad 25 дней назад

      @@jeremylastname873 White Balance is a camera adjustment. It will make your colors seen by the camera accurate or wrong. It will also help with very fine accuracy of how the camera does other things to take an accurate pic.

    • @jeremylastname873
      @jeremylastname873 24 дня назад

      @@californiabrad
      Correct. I do light, LASERs, electronics, and imaging for a living and you summed it up well.
      What you are referring to is the color in person? Perhaps the absorption of something in the drink varies with UV or other content of the illumination. I may just have to try it myself.

  • @connorgolden4
    @connorgolden4 29 дней назад +114

    Who else is loving these old west themed episodes! Will definitely check this guy’s channel out!
    Been year for several years now and look forward to more years enjoying this gem of a channel!

    • @BreakOutOfTheAlgorithm
      @BreakOutOfTheAlgorithm 29 дней назад +6

      You are in for a treat with Ghost Town living! I've been following Brent from the very beginning when he had a few thousand subscribers. I would highly suggest going to the beginning of his channel and start there. Enjoy the adventure, growth and excitement that Gost Town Living is so good at capturing. Cheers

    • @SugarBooger10
      @SugarBooger10 29 дней назад +1

      Mememe 🤗🤗🤗

  • @sammyw7301
    @sammyw7301 29 дней назад +54

    Nothin like a fancy 9 am cocktail in a ghost town!

    • @agenaw2877
      @agenaw2877 29 дней назад +2

      It must not have been that good because they just took that one sip during the whole interview 😅😂

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 29 дней назад

      @@agenaw2877 90% Jack D will do that to any drink...

  • @PassTheMarmalade1957
    @PassTheMarmalade1957 29 дней назад +52

    Okay, I love that they brought a horse into the bar in that photo. "Hold up, guys, this might be the only picture we take for a while, it should be good! Imma get Clip-Clop!"

  • @SheilaLJones
    @SheilaLJones 29 дней назад +14

    Max posting twice this week?! And it’s a Drinking History episode today! This is a rare treat.
    We your fans thank you

  • @susankarklin4395
    @susankarklin4395 29 дней назад +22

    On the show Bonanza the family's cook was a Chinese immigrant Hop Sing played by the actor Victor Sen Yung. My family watched that show as well as Gun Smoke and the Rifleman. I loved those old shows as a child.

  • @kimlindseyOH
    @kimlindseyOH 29 дней назад +27

    Yay! Two of my fave YTers, chatting over cocktails, in "fancy glasses" no less!Max, you forgot to mention that it's Brent narrating the audiobook you were listening to! Brent, you should have spoken up, especially about how you recorded it down in one of the mines! (best sound-proof "booth" ever!) Would love to see the two of you collab on more old west recipes!

  • @furiousdestroyer2.050
    @furiousdestroyer2.050 29 дней назад +128

    TWO VIDEOS IN ONE WEEK

  • @dmckim3174
    @dmckim3174 29 дней назад +14

    I have found that the episodes where Max can go somewhere to tell us about the history has a different demeanor to it. It’s like the place comes back to life. ❤

  • @DrownInGoldenMisery
    @DrownInGoldenMisery 29 дней назад +20

    2:17 Idk why that fade in to "I took them from here" cracked me up like you just snuck in and hid them under your coat hahahah

  • @lady_draguliana784
    @lady_draguliana784 25 дней назад +4

    Amusing Anecdote about Dynamite:
    My father was an Iron Worker (CA Union!) for 45yrs, thereabouts. He would sometimes be working on Bridges in the mountain passes, which would "ice" rather than snow (high altitude in SoCal).
    Dad was an affable man, and made nice with most folk. He especially made nice with the Demolitions guys.
    so one cold morning, the men were huddled tightly around burning 55gal drums, there was no room for the latecomers: My dad and the Demo guy, who'd carpooled. so the Demo guy went and pulled a full stick out of his truck and threw it in one of the fires!
    as you now know, it didn't blow, and, being fresh, wasn't prone to impact (requiring the power of a blasting cap, or electric fuse to set it off), but the rest of the guys didn't know that! so the guys went running away, and my dad and the demo guy got to have a whole fire to themselves! 🤣

  • @risinbison1106
    @risinbison1106 29 дней назад +55

    Roughneck miners drinking dainty cocktails must have been a sight. Looking forward to making this. Very interesting old mining town.

    • @naamadossantossilva4736
      @naamadossantossilva4736 29 дней назад +22

      Max should do a video about when people started thinking making booze palatable was a feminine thing.

    • @charlies8282
      @charlies8282 29 дней назад +7

      @@naamadossantossilva4736yeah it’s ridiculous, I have no shame about liking a good cocktail

    • @agenaw2877
      @agenaw2877 29 дней назад

      Those kind of drinks were probably for the women from the brothels.

    • @purple-flowers
      @purple-flowers 29 дней назад +9

      This cocktail is just an old fashioned, just presented differently. Cocktail as a descriptor is specifically spirit, sugar, bitters, ice. So a whiskey cocktail is this recipe, a brandy cocktail just used brandy instead of whiskey etc. Then you get iterations on the cocktail (later old fashioned) with "The improved whiskey cocktail" and "The Sazerac." The variations were enough that one would want to order your cocktail "in the old fashioned way," which was later shortened to old fashioned. Imbibe has a lot of history with cocktail and drink history.

    • @Uncle_Smidge
      @Uncle_Smidge 28 дней назад +1

      Ooh, you're running from some BIG feelings there, tough guy 🤣

  • @pjheric
    @pjheric 29 дней назад +12

    Max literally looks like a 24 year old youth pastor without the beard and in that outfit

  • @joeshmoegaming4458
    @joeshmoegaming4458 29 дней назад +15

    THE COLLAB I DIDNT KNOW I NEEDED been following Brent roughly 4 months in his ghost town journey before the American hotel burnt down

  • @theunboiledfrog1258
    @theunboiledfrog1258 29 дней назад +9

    I love it when two channels I love collaborate! I would love to see Brent chat with a historic fashion/ clothing channel to get some insight into the clothing that the miners and the ladies in Cerro Gordo would have been wearing.

  • @chelled.4622
    @chelled.4622 14 дней назад +2

    Love that Max used his kitchen down time to bring us this!! Its always nice to hear from a fellow historian and see such mutual respect for preservation

  • @Aramis419
    @Aramis419 29 дней назад +12

    “I TOOK THEM FROM HERE”
    Taken out of context, that’s hilarious 😂

  • @richardbeebe8398
    @richardbeebe8398 29 дней назад +15

    Came for the Tasting/Drinking History ... but stayed for what promises to be another fascinating You Tube channel (thanks, Max, for introducing us to Brent Underwood and his amazing venture!)

  • @harrisonbergeron9764
    @harrisonbergeron9764 29 дней назад +152

    I would think Ice would have been a real luxury during that time in history.

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory  29 дней назад +174

      It was, but they had it. It’s amazing how far south they got ice and how effective ice houses were.

    • @VincentGroenewold
      @VincentGroenewold 29 дней назад +13

      Shipped indeed from the poles, usually meant for deeper special cooling-huts in rich people's gardens (at least in the UK for instance). Such a different time, kinda surprised it survived to the dessert though.

    • @Icebergeification
      @Icebergeification 29 дней назад +41

      Actually there is a trick to making ice in hot dry environments as long as you have water build a special type of chimney to your water/ice house that catches blowing wind and forces it down the chimney and because heat travels up only the cold air got blasted down which would freeze the water

    • @DrunkenDemon
      @DrunkenDemon 29 дней назад +29

      You could harvest ice in the Winters. There was no need to go to the Poles. Also, lately i learned that the Persians were able to produce ice. ( not shure if i learned that here xD)

    • @ZhovtoBlakytniy
      @ZhovtoBlakytniy 29 дней назад +9

      ​@@DrunkenDemon he did an episode on that! 😊

  • @lushedleshen
    @lushedleshen 29 дней назад +14

    Jerry Thomas’s book also has the very first recipe for what we now call Jello Shots.
    I’ve been trying to get literally any historical food-tuber to pick it up and do a video on it.

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory  29 дней назад +18

      It’s on my list, though they go back much further than Jerry Thomas. At least ones that used wine.

    • @lushedleshen
      @lushedleshen 29 дней назад +4

      @@TastingHistory oh cool! Cocktail scholarship is sort of my thing so I’m really excited to find out there’s a source I missed.
      Could you point me to the earlier ones? I really want to see how they evolved since the inception of gelatin extraction.

    • @thecupthatcheers9763
      @thecupthatcheers9763 29 дней назад +1

      ​@@lushedleshen look for 18th century and earlier recipes for Wine Jelly.

    • @lushedleshen
      @lushedleshen 29 дней назад +1

      @@thecupthatcheers9763 I am genuinely not surprised Jerry Thomas co-opted an older recipe.
      Most of the cocktails credited to him actually predate his book.

  • @natey6256
    @natey6256 29 дней назад +31

    Max Miller is a master of the segue

  • @rainmaker709
    @rainmaker709 29 дней назад +5

    Historical Footnote:
    DuPont was the original company that produced Dynamite under a exclusive license with Nobel as the Giant Powder Company subsidiary. In October 18, 1912 DuPont was forced to spinoff to two new companies, the Hercules Powder Company, capitalized at $13 million, and the Atlas Powder Company, capitalized at $6 million.
    This left the 3 in the Market as Atlas, Hercules, and DuPont.

  • @damienradford
    @damienradford 29 дней назад +19

    I visited Cerro Gordo in 2022. Brent is such an awesome guy, so welcoming and happy to hang out and chat. Have only been watching Max for a couple of months but am a huge fan already. Love this collab!

  • @masong695
    @masong695 5 дней назад +1

    Both Max and Brent are so good in front of the camera as individuals, and it makes their chemistry together absolutely wonderful. I love seeing these two talk about history, a topic they're both so passionate about, and seeing how the conversation just naturally flows. What a wonderful episode! Hope to see Cerro Gordo myself someday!

  • @ldcraig2006
    @ldcraig2006 28 дней назад +3

    You mentioned that at the time, the town of Cerra Gordo was part of Mexico, and that most of the miners would have been Mexican. And while this is true, I still chuckle when I translated the name of the town -- Cerra Gordo -- into Spanish. It means "Fat Hill." 😄 That must have been a reference to the mines, and the abundance of silver, lead and other minerals being pulled out of them.

  • @markraymond3198
    @markraymond3198 29 дней назад +8

    Fun fact! If your watching a western and see boxes or barrels that say black powder, that is wrong because black powder was not called that until smokeless powder was invented! Have a great day and thank you!

  • @nikkiewhite476
    @nikkiewhite476 29 дней назад +14

    Wonderful video Max and thank you José for the captions!
    I love that you spoke about the Chinese and Mexican miners. People think about the gold rush(es) and only think about the white people that came not the others. In the Yukon the native peoples were not allowed to own mines but often partnered with white people. There are several successful families here that we're in such partnerships.
    I can't mention the Yukon on drinking history without mentioning the Sourtoe. In Dawson city they have this drink and club called the sourtoe:
    1 ounce (minimum) of alcohol
    1 dehydrated toe
    garnish with courage
    It started with a frozen and alcohol pickled toe from a rum-runner. To get in the club you have to drink the alcohol and allow the your to touch your lip.
    Miners were mad, it was the mercury.

  • @michaeldufresne9428
    @michaeldufresne9428 29 дней назад +14

    That is really cool that people are returning artifacts because of his RUclips channel

  • @GnomaPhobic
    @GnomaPhobic 29 дней назад +28

    Max's segue to the sponsor was just as smooth as ever.

  • @roxxram9151
    @roxxram9151 29 дней назад +16

    Max you've GOT to make more episodes interview shows. This is great

  • @Geolog66
    @Geolog66 29 дней назад +5

    It's a treat when two of my favorite RUclipsrs finally meet!

  • @midoriya-shonen
    @midoriya-shonen 28 дней назад +5

    Wow. I teared up a little bit. The care that Brent is putting into this town, the community that's been built around it, and the history that's being rediscovered is incredible. Everything about this story is so endearing. Thank you for sharing ❤

  • @williamrobinson7435
    @williamrobinson7435 29 дней назад +6

    I shall be most interested in Ghost Town Living. Brent Underwood has done a great job in the town itself.
    Nice one Brent and Max! 🌟👍

  • @mayedwards5557
    @mayedwards5557 29 дней назад +30

    Always happy to see Max!

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory  29 дней назад +18

      Happy to be seen

    • @ZhovtoBlakytniy
      @ZhovtoBlakytniy 29 дней назад +6

      ​@@TastingHistoryI was having a crummy day and you definitely perked things up! Thank you ❤️
      I also love this whole Wild West theme. A very creative and clever way to film while your kitchen gets an upgrade.

  • @Lauren.E.O
    @Lauren.E.O 29 дней назад +7

    The idea of owning a town that you can learn about and explore sounds so amazing! It’s great that the real estate broker was convinced by Brent’s interest in the area, even though others were already asking about buying the town.

  • @rosevale3218
    @rosevale3218 29 дней назад +5

    I love that you and others are preserving history on RUclips. I found you Max during the pandemic. I was delighted that two of my loves food and history was being talk about. The ghost town is now added to my RUclips viewing because of you. Thank you.

  • @DaveK385
    @DaveK385 29 дней назад +4

    When I started in construction in Kansas City, Missouri, part of my job as an apprentice was to get coffee at 6:00 a.m. for the journeymen. "The Quaff" bar was the only place open and that's where I went. There were people in there at 6:00 a.m. starting to drink and still drinking from the night before (not coffee). So bars opening that early are still a thing.

  • @maisonneuve
    @maisonneuve 29 дней назад +14

    It’s 5 o’clock somewhere Max!! 😂❤

  • @gochadc
    @gochadc 29 дней назад +13

    The drink is really similar to Old Fashion, which makes sence considering the time. I really like it, but angostura bitters are hard to come by here, so I save my bottle for special occasion.

    • @LMDetorie
      @LMDetorie 29 дней назад +2

      The old fashioned evolved from this cocktail, and it really wasn't much of a change. Where are you in the world that Angostura bitters are scarce? It's literally on the shelf, always in stock at every grocery and liquor store I go to.

    • @Miycu
      @Miycu 29 дней назад +2

      @@LMDetorie Angostura is primarily distributed in the UK and Americas so anywhere outside of that it's harder and harder to get.

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 29 дней назад +5

      @@LMDetorie I'm from Denmark so I can waffle off traditional bitter names for half an hour and still not be done, but Angostura is basically mail-order-only unless you're a commercial venue uses a better-than-average catering service.

    • @merchantfan
      @merchantfan 22 дня назад

      Back then they called it a "New Fashion"

  • @annayang1667
    @annayang1667 29 дней назад +8

    We've been following Brent for years too. It's so cool to see you both talking about history!

  • @PinkPixie019
    @PinkPixie019 29 дней назад +3

    The cross over I needed! I've been watching both of you since you both started! You both made the Pandemic so much better for people like me who went from living a life of working, eat, sleep, repeat to just nothing for over a year. I got to explore my interests for the first time and left my corporate girl boss behind finally.

  • @spustatu
    @spustatu 29 дней назад +8

    Holy crap. For the right price, I would be so down to stay in a town like that, sleeping in an accurate recreation of the hotel, eating from an accurate menu, walking through the old general store... So cool.

  • @LouisaWatt
    @LouisaWatt 28 дней назад +3

    This series has been really cool. Such a brilliant idea while the kitchen is being renovated! Thanks for introducing us to the host of the ghost town 💚

  • @BubsyMupsy
    @BubsyMupsy 28 дней назад +4

    Amazing! Bravo to this young man who decided to dedicate his life to preserving real history ! We need such people everywhere!

  • @PaxiPrime
    @PaxiPrime 27 дней назад +1

    This was so cool to watch! I live about 45 min away from the calico ghost town, been there a few times! Tho I'm sure it's nothing like this! Props to this guy for keeping the history of the place alive! Thanks for sharing and doing all you do!

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 29 дней назад +12

    This is the episode when the sitcom character shows why they actually went on vacation.

  • @travissutherland8502
    @travissutherland8502 29 дней назад +28

    Mildly more organized than when Safety Third went to the mine.

    • @markfergerson2145
      @markfergerson2145 29 дней назад +4

      But about as much fun as when Corridor Crew 3D mapped the whole town plus parts of the mine.

    • @user-zr9hu3tf1y
      @user-zr9hu3tf1y 28 дней назад

      I thought this was a reference to the the Well There's Your Problem podcast talking about a dangerous mine incident on the Safety Third segment, then I looked it up and realized oh yeah, William Osman, Allen Pan, and Michael Reeves have a channel together (right?)

    • @memejeff
      @memejeff 27 дней назад

      ​@@user-zr9hu3tf1yWilliam Osman, Allen Pan, Backyardscientist

  • @AGMundy
    @AGMundy 22 дня назад +1

    What a charming conversation and encouraging to see history preserved and brought to life.

  • @aaronhollis3186
    @aaronhollis3186 29 дней назад +3

    I’ve been following Brent’s journey since day one. Love this! Also, in the 1860s, their whiskey of choice may very well have been Monongahela Rye from Pennsylvania. In those days, Mon Rye was world famous, especially Overholt from West Overton, Pa. It’s rumored to be the favorite whiskey of characters like Doc Holliday and you can still find it today. Check it out. Cheers!

  • @SummitCoyote
    @SummitCoyote 29 дней назад +3

    That is so cool I love visiting places like this. I am glad there are still people who are excited about preserving this part of history.

  • @robinthrush9672
    @robinthrush9672 29 дней назад +6

    It must be hard to stay in shape in a ghost town since you're not allowed to exorcise anywhere.

  • @viviancandelario4766
    @viviancandelario4766 28 дней назад +2

    This was absolutely amazing Max and Brent!!! Thanks so much for doing this!!

  • @richewilson6394
    @richewilson6394 29 дней назад +8

    Hey there, my family does kind of own most of a ghost town in Montana. Not a big one it's just a deserted old farming town, Laredo. We don't have any original buildings but there's still some foundations around. As well as the two grain elevators next to the railroads tracks that are used by the Burlington Northern Santa Fe as storage railroad tracks. My dad owns one of the last buildings that still there was a grocery store as far as I know that's now a house that we rent out.
    My great grandfather actually worked at the grain elevator for years. There's a picture of the town in its heyday but I don't know where it is right now.

    • @samovarsa2640
      @samovarsa2640 29 дней назад +1

      ...not Laredo as in 'When I walked out in Laredo one day' Laredo?!

    • @richewilson6394
      @richewilson6394 29 дней назад

      @@samovarsa2640 It's Laredo Montana, we have a sign next to the railroad tracks.

  • @ezioauditore4061
    @ezioauditore4061 29 дней назад +4

    I wonder how much the game Red Dead Redemption 2 played in sparking a renewed interest people had in the old west. It's an extremely popular game, and you had millions of gamers exploring settings similar to Cerro Gordo. We've seen movies, TV, and games spark interest in dormant things before. I wouldn't be shocked if after playing that game, many people went down RUclips rabbit holes of mining towns and the old west and stumbled upon Brent's channel.

  • @tomholroyd7519
    @tomholroyd7519 29 дней назад +8

    I got almost the same feeling staying in a hotel in former East Berlin after the Wall came down. Also I like curry sausage

  • @eoinm5758
    @eoinm5758 27 дней назад +2

    This guy is the type of guy every father wants his daughter to bring home

  • @shopdawg3682
    @shopdawg3682 29 дней назад +1

    Great video Max! Love the interaction and history that just naturally comes out for all to learn. Keep it going and growing Max, ya rocking it bro!

  • @yvonnebruce6178
    @yvonnebruce6178 29 дней назад +3

    So fascinating. Thank you Max for helping to bring this to life.

  • @kellinomnom
    @kellinomnom 29 дней назад +3

    I love his channel! If you're just now finding out about Brent and his awesome town you should absolutely go to his channel and see all the progress he's made.

  • @repeatdefender6032
    @repeatdefender6032 28 дней назад +1

    So cool to see Max in the ghost town! I found Ghosttownliving a while back and was immediately fascinated.

  • @Bluescorpion96734
    @Bluescorpion96734 29 дней назад

    This is so great!!! I’ve been following both of you for a while, and a Patreon of Max’s. Always looking forward to seeing how Brent is doing with his home in them there hills!

  • @barnaclebob123
    @barnaclebob123 29 дней назад +3

    That was amazing Max. More of this type of stuff. Go see an abandoned euro town

  • @Pigness7
    @Pigness7 29 дней назад +4

    Brent looks just so happy to be apart of this lol

  • @TheOneTrueDragonKing
    @TheOneTrueDragonKing 27 дней назад +2

    Hey Max, no idea if you're going to read this or reply to it, but I'm going to say it anyway:
    You are, if I'm being honest, one of the best. Right up there with some of the old PBS cooking shows and educational content.
    You could easily have been on Public Broadcasting or the History Channel back when they were doing cooking shows and actual history content instead of so-called "Reality TV".
    Your channel has the best of both worlds: food for the belly and food for thought. Seriously delicious content in both cases - keep it up man!

  • @susanbaker8023
    @susanbaker8023 29 дней назад

    Thanks to you both for preserving the history for future folks. I was at so many ghost towns in Arizona with my Dad. I would love to visit this place. Thanks again.

  • @irishsakura1
    @irishsakura1 29 дней назад +17

    What a treat!! I have both of your books!! I love collaborations!

  • @AM-hf9kk
    @AM-hf9kk 26 дней назад +5

    Isn't this literally an Old Fashioned? Just Whiskey, Sugar, and Bitters.

  • @nettie607
    @nettie607 26 дней назад

    I was fortunate enough to be able to spend a week at Hampton Court in England years ago. I feel a part of that history now. Getting to stay and contribute to history is the way to seriously connect with and own history. Great work, Brent!

  • @elliephants7047
    @elliephants7047 28 дней назад +2

    I really enjoyed seeing this chat, Max - I actually remember seeing bits of the whole buying a ghost town thing from 'round then, and as far as I remember it popped up with your videos, haha! It was fate. Really interesting look into the history of mining in the west.

  • @theclownofclowns
    @theclownofclowns 29 дней назад +9

    wonderful collab! the travel videos are always super fun-i wonder if max has been approached for a travel show at this point. if not then tv execs have their finger on the pulse even less than i thought. max is a gem already to be counted among the food journalism greats

    • @theclownofclowns
      @theclownofclowns 29 дней назад +2

      also it’s wild to me that these towns are a level of abandoned such that the mines still have boxes of dynamite lying there from over 150 years ago. i think we’re used to seeing abandonment back to max the 1960s or maybe 1950s but 100 years earlier than that?! unreal

  • @patriley9449
    @patriley9449 29 дней назад +1

    I was just in Bishop, Big Pine, Lone Pine, Bodie and Manzanar earlier this week. I did not know about this place. Well, I live only 4 hours away and will check it out next time.

  • @shinitaisenpai9057
    @shinitaisenpai9057 27 дней назад +1

    I've been watching Brent's journey for so long, yet I wouldn't have dreamed of this collab, fucking awesome!

  • @Dionaea_floridensis
    @Dionaea_floridensis 29 дней назад +11

    Love this kind of content from you so much 💕!

  • @bendavis3778
    @bendavis3778 29 дней назад +5

    Always a good day when I wake up and see a surprise episode of Drinking History

  • @damealeta3541
    @damealeta3541 29 дней назад

    My dad was an avid lover of all things Western. Grew up with all the western TV shows: Gunsmoke, Have Gun, Will Travel, Sugarcoat, etc. I remember Hop Sing was Ben Cartwrights' cook on Bonanza. I need to check out this book. Thanks, Max for another fun video!

  • @TheFlagnard2
    @TheFlagnard2 12 дней назад

    I remember when Brent first started making videos and living in the town. He would live there alone for a few months at a time at first. One of his craziest videos was the first time he spent a night in the mine. The town and Brent have come a long way since then.

  • @LilA-zl6tf
    @LilA-zl6tf 29 дней назад +8

    When you came to talk about the dynamite, I already paused the vid and was about to tell you some facts about it, but then decided to watch till the end first. Good thing I did, saved me some writing.... This guy knows his stuff! 🙂

  • @Dabednego
    @Dabednego 29 дней назад +25

    Last time I was this early absinthe was legal.
    (Which time? I won’t say.)

    • @ZhovtoBlakytniy
      @ZhovtoBlakytniy 29 дней назад +2

      Or where! 😁

    • @aleisterlavey9716
      @aleisterlavey9716 29 дней назад

      1909?

    • @maximilianmustermann5763
      @maximilianmustermann5763 29 дней назад +1

      It's been legal everywhere for the last 15 or 20 years. There's tons of good, historic reproductions on the market using old recipes. Real absinthe was never dangerous or "hallucinogenic". What gave it a bad rep was cheap knock-offs that would use toxic chemicals for the green color and clouding. The French wine industry back then used the bad rep to get Absinthe banned because it was their worst competition at the time.

  • @MoonlightHorizon-ev7ev
    @MoonlightHorizon-ev7ev 29 дней назад

    This is an amazing video man, I love how you brought food knowledgte context to the history - such a beautiful convergence of interests.

  • @nickif7017
    @nickif7017 29 дней назад +1

    I am so excited that you did this collaboration! I have been following Ghost Town Living since Brent started. 🤗