Phil M - ya but I’m sorry, it does not even come close to sounding how it did back then. Although he might think his tone back then wasn’t perfect, it was his and everyone knew it his and that’s what made him him....I hear more grey soup now than ever, just saying. With that said this is amazing and I need more I absolutely love this kinda stuff! Thx for posting🙏🙏🙏. Trey is Jedi!
The “grey soup” you hear now could be the el34 Marshall amp that is almost the opposite tone of 1994. His 6l6 amp sounds just like his fender deluxe. Most guitar amp audiophiles don’t like treys og tone & Trey realized why after talking with ken Fischer. What trey is saying here is %100 accurate. Surprised it took so long for him to dial in his rig
I wish he would talk about his gear more because he's so well spoken and colorful with his words. We get a rig rundown about twice a decade and the last one was hosted by someone who doesn't play or listen to guitar at tf all.
I was there at those shows. Its wonderful to hear the explanations on what we were hearing that tour. It was mind boggling! Now we know at least one of the reasons why! Thanks Trey
I do fairly well with a Dumble type pedal, being the Ethos TLE. It seems to do well, right? It is a little harsh. But, that's the cool thing about Mark III's They are like a bucking bronco of an amplifier. Should've done what me and Steve Kimock did a long time ago. Get a dual 6L6 Two Rock. Ken Fisher is a legend, but so is Bill Krinard. ruclips.net/video/H3XqWGF0jA8/видео.html
I do like Treys new tone a lot. I saw him tonight in Seattle and he had the Trainwreck ( Jan Marie I believe) right out on the stage next to him in plain view, not secreted behind everything like how I have seen it before. He is kind of painting with broad strokes here, a big reason for the change in amp tone that happened in the mid 1970's was the addition of another gain stage and a master-volume control that would make it so you could generate distortion in the preamp at lower volume settings, instead of in the power amp. Non-master volume amps just sound better, but you have to crank them to get that sound and it can get loud. Sure, if money is no object, go get a NOS set of Mullards if you can find them, but I'm telling you, you can get a pretty good tone without breaking the bank with the right circuit and quality modern components, and there are lots of boutique amp makers out there these days that do just that.
AMFM - and I think it gets even better in 99’. 98 has a heaviness I don’t love but 99’, I don’t know what they did but it just tickles my ear pussy!....it does help to have Languedoc on sound back then too, all his tones back in 1.0 matched with languedoc on sound are better then what he is doing right now.
samsaraa I hear you. Still the fender setup was prob my fav. Less compressed with snap. Agree with you...not into current sound. Love to hear him talk about it tho. ✌🏻
I don't like his new tone. Please bring back the fender/ross/tube screamer or the mark3, or the groove tube. New tone is muddy, flubby, mushy. Want the old high headroom clean sound. Please
I’m glad he’s so excited but, the “Trey 94” button doesn’t sound anything like what he sounded like in 1994. Also, check out the NYE 95 Strange Design video. The Leslie effect is perfect. Now...meh.
He's backwards on impedances and cable runs. To drive a long cable or a lot of pedals, you want a LOW impedance signal source and low impedance cables. Low impedance = high current drive capability. This is what you need to push a long cable and lots of effects.,
Trey’s late 90’s early 2000’s sound was the cleanest and most present. Around the Brooklyn album it took a turn for the worse. Don’t like the raspier sound.
@@oliverchapman51177he’s listening to late 90’s early 2000’s phish… which is peak era phish… they were a different band all together then. Put some respect on it you seem like you just got here lol
@@tylerwilkey13interesting. I think Bakers is when his tone became absolutely unlistenable. It has gotten better since he ditched the Komet and Ambikabs, but still he hasn’t tamed the high end yet.
huh, this is from only 2 years ago so idk what he's talking about... I don't think any players except maybe really amateur players put reverb and delay at the start of the signal chain. Everyone knows those go in the effects loop or at the end of the chain. There are many reasons why most people's tone sucks, but that mistake isn't made by too many people.
@@jada90 Trey wasn't saying that, although I totally feel ya the grammar was confusing. If you go back to that part of the convo, they had been talking about the problem of grey soup, and Trey was saying was that most peoples tones suck because it's a "grey soup" (for, like you said, a variety of reasons), but he wasn't trying to say that their tones suck because of putting reverb/delay at the start. That was just one example of what causes grey soup among many.
Sco - couldn’t agree more! When he plays stuff like Reba (which was his example) now his tone is all grey soup. It doesn’t come close to having the clean bite it used too. Trey I love you but you are wrong here, bring back the Mesa!!!!
Sco -couldn't have said it better. That tone was legendary... LEGENDARY! I think all musicians should explore, but I might have to resort to criminal activity to make sure Trey gets his tone back 😂
Won't Jerries preamp fit in the Languaduck. Your missing the JJ 6l6's. Sound better than the RCAs. Try a Tung Sol 12ax7 in position 1 in Mullard rig Trey. Sounds good but you could skweeke some more out that rig. You can do it. J.
1:30 where he begins to generalize that everything mass produced started to go down the drain...I contend that he’s biased to prove his side of the story, building to his point to keep anyone listening interested. He’s so full of the circus show to be revered by anyone apart from the Phish crowd. Good luck with that sound buddy! Saw you twice and by far the worst shows I’ve ever seen.
Wow. Holy shit. I could listen to him talk about this all day long.
I love that Trey gives a nod to Derek. Tone is so important to both of them.
This video blew my mind. I’m not going to lie.
The Derek set....
Love to hear Trey talk about his stuff. Stuff makes the world go round!
so stupendous, playing quality part tube
Trey: ''thats what I built my sound around, right?"
Interviewer: "RIGHT"
That “Trey 94” button!
Phil M - ya but I’m sorry, it does not even come close to sounding how it did back then. Although he might think his tone back then wasn’t perfect, it was his and everyone knew it his and that’s what made him him....I hear more grey soup now than ever, just saying. With that said this is amazing and I need more I absolutely love this kinda stuff! Thx for posting🙏🙏🙏. Trey is Jedi!
I was hoping the Trey 94 button came with a bump of coke. Those were the good ol days. LOL
The “grey soup” you hear now could be the el34 Marshall amp that is almost the opposite tone of 1994. His 6l6 amp sounds just like his fender deluxe. Most guitar amp audiophiles don’t like treys og tone & Trey realized why after talking with ken Fischer. What trey is saying here is %100 accurate. Surprised it took so long for him to dial in his rig
@@AustinRoud What do you consider the OG tone? 94? or earlier? or rather when did the change happen? 99?
Bums in the comments thinking they understand and hear Trey’s tone better than he does lol.
Exactly
I wish he would talk about his gear more because he's so well spoken and colorful with his words. We get a rig rundown about twice a decade and the last one was hosted by someone who doesn't play or listen to guitar at tf all.
I was there at those shows. Its wonderful to hear the explanations on what we were hearing that tour. It was mind boggling! Now we know at least one of the reasons why! Thanks Trey
Does the rest of this interview exist anywhere? Fantastic A+++++
I love this. I could listen to him talk all day long about the music
1997 with CAE preamp was his best tone ever, it’s a shame he used for such short time.
I’d like to here Trey play a BE-100 (Friedman) yea, that would be interesting!
I do fairly well with a Dumble type pedal, being the Ethos TLE. It seems to do well, right? It is a little harsh. But, that's the cool thing about Mark III's They are like a bucking bronco of an amplifier. Should've done what me and Steve Kimock did a long time ago. Get a dual 6L6 Two Rock. Ken Fisher is a legend, but so is Bill Krinard.
ruclips.net/video/H3XqWGF0jA8/видео.html
I’ve learned a lot from this dude! Thanks!
I do like Treys new tone a lot. I saw him tonight in Seattle and he had the Trainwreck ( Jan Marie I believe) right out on the stage next to him in plain view, not secreted behind everything like how I have seen it before. He is kind of painting with broad strokes here, a big reason for the change in amp tone that happened in the mid 1970's was the addition of another gain stage and a master-volume control that would make it so you could generate distortion in the preamp at lower volume settings, instead of in the power amp. Non-master volume amps just sound better, but you have to crank them to get that sound and it can get loud. Sure, if money is no object, go get a NOS set of Mullards if you can find them, but I'm telling you, you can get a pretty good tone without breaking the bank with the right circuit and quality modern components, and there are lots of boutique amp makers out there these days that do just that.
It’s awesome to watch Phish play while listening to Trey talk about his rig.
gosh i wonder what he would sound like through a dumble amp
So much tube talk!!!
I still like the the deluxe reverb setup starting at Island Tour 1998. Mids with bite
AMFM - and I think it gets even better in 99’. 98 has a heaviness I don’t love but 99’, I don’t know what they did but it just tickles my ear pussy!....it does help to have Languedoc on sound back then too, all his tones back in 1.0 matched with languedoc on sound are better then what he is doing right now.
samsaraa I hear you. Still the fender setup was prob my fav. Less compressed with snap. Agree with you...not into current sound. Love to hear him talk about it tho. ✌🏻
Great stuff!!!! Need more of this! Could listen to this stuff all day! Thanks!
Thanks man! Guitar nerd, love it!
I now want a Camaro.
Best light show in an interview ever?
Thanks a bunch for capturing this. Here's hoping the rest of the questions are as well!
WHERE DID THE REST OF THE CONVO GO
Funk 49! Old Fender 12 watt tweed amp, and a Telecaster. Derek Trucks, Fender Super Reverb and a 1/4 in. cable.
I don't like his new tone. Please bring back the fender/ross/tube screamer or the mark3, or the groove tube. New tone is muddy, flubby, mushy. Want the old high headroom clean sound. Please
I’m glad he’s so excited but, the “Trey 94” button doesn’t sound anything like what he sounded like in 1994. Also, check out the NYE 95 Strange Design video. The Leslie effect is perfect. Now...meh.
Get a ceriatone - he makes an exact clone of the trainwreck express using all high end parts. It’s cheap cause it’s made in Malaysia. Hardwired too!
He's backwards on impedances and cable runs. To drive a long cable or a lot of pedals, you want a LOW impedance signal source and low impedance cables. Low impedance = high current drive capability. This is what you need to push a long cable and lots of effects.,
We care. Amazing! Thank you! 🙏
Thanks for sharing. Great stuff! I could listen all day.
Funk 49 was recorderded on s fender champ
Lol...
Correct. My best Amp. 1951 Champ running into 2 Greenbacks. Nos Mullard 12ax7, Airline 1949 6v6, no tone stack or reverb to get in the way. Perfection
It's back up! Now I can relisten to this once a day again.
you can get the whole interview off the phish MP3 spreadsheet. its called ask trey
Trey’s late 90’s early 2000’s sound was the cleanest and most present. Around the Brooklyn album it took a turn for the worse. Don’t like the raspier sound.
@@oliverchapman51177he’s listening to late 90’s early 2000’s phish… which is peak era phish… they were a different band all together then. Put some respect on it you seem like you just got here lol
Yea cool interview I've heard it before he's 👍
I get why he likes it. But the 99/2000 Deluxe tone was the peak IMO
im right there with you, it helps to have Languedoc on sound too.
Big fan of that dark DR tone.
This was incredible
Love the narrative Trey 😊
My life was made at big cypress literally
My favorite Doc is the Ocedoc
WAY TO SHORT. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR TREY JUST TALK FOR HOURS ABOUT SOUND.
@Mapleneckguitar m.soundcloud.com/user-970720966/sets/ask-trey
@@Isaac.Garcia666 Thank you for linking this.
geez...
There’s nothing boring about this.
Fucking rad
Haha this shit is awesome! I love Trey, you gear nerd you!haha
music gear nerdgasm. Thanks Trey!
Ironically, Trey's current sound is NOT cutting it for me. I really miss his 90's tone.
Baker's Dozen through NYE 17 and Summer 2018 are my favorite tones of recent so far
@@tylerwilkey13interesting. I think Bakers is when his tone became absolutely unlistenable. It has gotten better since he ditched the Komet and Ambikabs, but still he hasn’t tamed the high end yet.
What about now! His current tone is pretty killer. That new trainwreck has great harmonics
Needs to bring back the ocedoc
Trey new sound got me more into the band
phish has a lighting rig that looks so amazing but the mid 90s dead shows and early to mid eighties dead shows are the best..
8:03 “...that’s why MOST peoples’ tones SUCK.”
huh, this is from only 2 years ago so idk what he's talking about... I don't think any players except maybe really amateur players put reverb and delay at the start of the signal chain. Everyone knows those go in the effects loop or at the end of the chain. There are many reasons why most people's tone sucks, but that mistake isn't made by too many people.
@@jada90 Trey wasn't saying that, although I totally feel ya the grammar was confusing. If you go back to that part of the convo, they had been talking about the problem of grey soup, and Trey was saying was that most peoples tones suck because it's a "grey soup" (for, like you said, a variety of reasons), but he wasn't trying to say that their tones suck because of putting reverb/delay at the start. That was just one example of what causes grey soup among many.
ughh more more more...pls
More gear talk with Trey
Trey was getting some bleed lol
I don't know Trey...... the Boogie tone will always smoke em all imo.
Sco - Correct, exactly correct
first of all, your post isn't very persuasive.... 2nd of all you dont kno what imo means? lol
Sco - couldn’t agree more! When he plays stuff like Reba (which was his example) now his tone is all grey soup. It doesn’t come close to having the clean bite it used too. Trey I love you but you are wrong here, bring back the Mesa!!!!
Sco -couldn't have said it better. That tone was legendary... LEGENDARY! I think all musicians should explore, but I might have to resort to criminal activity to make sure Trey gets his tone back 😂
in my opinion lol
We just heard Trey’s Top 5 Guitarists!!!
Carlos
SRV
Clapton
Jerry
Hendrix
surprised he didnt mention jimmy page
those were just examples of some of his "tone masters", not his 5 favorite guitarists
Big difference!
In Vermont?
Jake May - Trey TrioTone is so Jimmy Page. Love that heavy KOA 2 sound with the Marshall type amp! UNBEATABLE
Won't Jerries preamp fit in the Languaduck. Your missing the JJ 6l6's. Sound better than the RCAs. Try a Tung Sol 12ax7 in position 1 in Mullard rig Trey. Sounds good but you could skweeke some more out that rig. You can do it.
J.
So Trey got hip to Jerry's O.B.E.L. system. On board effects loop. More or less without saying it.
Trey does not use an onboard effects loop on his guitar.
Chris Michels no not in the guitar, but there are ways to do it on the floor in the effects signal chain looping.
he has been doing that since the early 90s, as does every guitarist with some $
docs.google.com/document/d/1h4GJxSjmrSNNY75fosp4YamVeFygG8P2mBfwPpqS2DU/edit
I have a ross compressor, have no idea what to sell it for. Is $700 to much?
reverb.com
Ha ha ha 700??
give it away
I’ll be it for $700!!
$40
THE LESLEY SPEAKER HAS GOT TO GO!! Worst tone ever!
samsaraa Not terrible but could definitely be improved
Lets hear your tone. You won't. This I already know. Move on Dude
@@oliverchapman51177 youre 4 years late homie
@@samsaraa2001 story of my life
Actually here we are! 👋 Hello
1:30 where he begins to generalize that everything mass produced started to go down the drain...I contend that he’s biased to prove his side of the story, building to his point to keep anyone listening interested. He’s so full of the circus show to be revered by anyone apart from the Phish crowd. Good luck with that sound buddy! Saw you twice and by far the worst shows I’ve ever seen.
Mad Dog Who hurt you?
Talking about bias and then make a bias statement in the exact manner you shit on
🙄
lets hear you. ill post. not at all concerned with opinions. if its good, its in the player. Period..
Funk 49 was a tele directly into a fender super champ...... that's how sick Joe walsh is.