My Favorite Training Splits For Building Mass!

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 24 сен 2023
  • All of my programs can be found below!
    Build mass using my 5 day old school bodybuilding program payhip.com/b/4QPK
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    * Bodybuilding Diet eBook and Audiobook*
    payhip.com/b/eYwvS
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Build massive arms using proven old school bodybuilding training methods
    payhip.com/b/yu73c
    USE CODE: LAUNCH25 For 25% off Old School Arm Training Program
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    *Get The Old School Size and Strength Program HERE: www.boostcamp.app/pete-khatch...
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Online Coaching Program Here payhip.com/b/U3DY
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    *Download My FREE Fat Loss Cardio Guide Here: payhip.com/b/DScG8
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Transparent Labs: athlete.transparentlabs.com/pete
    Code: JAKKED for 10% OFF!
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Barbell Apparel: barbellapparel.com/jakked
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Follow me on Instagram: Jakked
    Send me an Email: PeterKhatcherian@gmail.com
    Visit my website: www.OldSchoolMassGain.com
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    My Favorite Training Splits For Building Mass! - Old School Mass Gain!
    #workout #gym #oldschool #goldenera #gains #chest #chestworkout #biceps #bicepsworkout #back #backworkout #arnold #schwarzenegger #arnoldschwarzenegger #hardwork #lou #louferrigno #triceps #quads #legday #chestday #backday #armworkout #fulldayofeating #protein #proteins #carbs #cardio #fatloss #massgain #oldschoolmassgain #peterkhatcherian #bodybuilding #beachbody #shredding #cutting #bulking
  • РазвлеченияРазвлечения

Комментарии • 91

  • @lanceros8453
    @lanceros8453 10 месяцев назад +15

    PPL, PPLA, antagonist split are my favorite splits. I also like a PPL variant where I'll do chest, lateral delt and biceps on "push" day, and back, rear delt and triceps on "pull" days. I often train 3 days a week only but that's because I run and do MMA as well, and it always produced huge results without being too fatigued

  • @wasimfiroz2137
    @wasimfiroz2137 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great content love it, following your 5day mass building program and it's wonderful ❤

  • @Hey-Nice-Shoes
    @Hey-Nice-Shoes 9 месяцев назад

    Ive done antagonist split for 20 years. Started with it and am still doing it. I love it. Now that im a little older though I cant hit it as hard because thats a ROUGH 6 days in the gym. Im toast when uts finally time to take a rest day. I loved that idea of the PPAL split and I think im going to finally change it up and try that. Looks like I can still crush muscle groups but recover better and even have the day to hit whatever is lagging behind. Thanks so much man!

  • @bisaular5333
    @bisaular5333 2 часа назад

    My split right now.. PPLS-A-
    Push; chest, shoulder (lateral only 3 sets), triceps (4-6 sets moderate and light)
    Pull; Back (+traps and rear delt 3 sets), Biceps (4-6 sets moderate and light)
    Leg
    Shoulder (+traps) and Arm
    The best for me...

  • @RorschachNL
    @RorschachNL 10 месяцев назад +23

    Love the 4 day torso limb split hitting full upperbody is to much in 1 session moving biceps and triceps to legday make that day more exciting as well

    • @Baloshz
      @Baloshz 10 месяцев назад +3

      i do this for months and wont stop !

    • @J.The.Prince
      @J.The.Prince 2 месяца назад

      This sounds interesting! Can you give a sample week of this split you do?

    • @user-is7jx2ju5t
      @user-is7jx2ju5t 2 месяца назад

      @@J.The.Princefor example :
      Monday chest back shoulders
      Tuesday Arms Legs
      Wednesday rest
      Thursday chest back shoulders
      Friday arms legs
      Or
      Monday chest back shoulders
      Tuesday arms
      Wednesday legs
      Thursday chest back shoulders
      Friday arms legs
      Focuse on good technique for back and chest, try to use a less arms as possible, if your training intensity level/ regeneration isnt that high/fast yet.
      And most importantly Follow Jesus!

    • @Hyte2
      @Hyte2 26 дней назад

      I do that but instead of training arms in the leg day I train shoulders (as I consider them a weak point of mine)

  • @loganfluegel925
    @loganfluegel925 10 месяцев назад +4

    Push, Pull, Arms, Legs + lagging body part day split ftw! My current 5 day split. Chest and Arms are hit 2x per week. Back, Legs, and Shoulders are 1x per week. I usually always have a full arm day as they are a weak point for me. Shoulders and legs are prob my stronger body parts imo so the frequency is usually only 1x per week. I will do different movements for chest on day 1 vs day 4 too.
    1. Chest, Triceps
    2. Back, Biceps
    3. Legs
    4. Chest, Shoulders
    5. Full Arms.

  • @GregM225
    @GregM225 9 месяцев назад

    Have always enjoyed a two on one off PPL variation asynchronous style. Push, pull/forearms, rest, lower/biceps, push, rest, vertical pull plus biceps, lower plus one weak point push pattern, say triceps, rest, repeat.

  • @Champ19898
    @Champ19898 10 месяцев назад +46

    I train Antagonistic with a rest day after every 3 days. I’ve noticed great progress but more importantly I feel fresh for every session 👍🏻

    • @jamesberg2226
      @jamesberg2226 10 месяцев назад +1

      Put ur finger down and acknowledge the Goat Peter khatcherian

    • @janos3285
      @janos3285 10 месяцев назад +3

      I am doing the same thing. I have a question tho. Would it be better to do legs after your chest and back day or shoulders and arms? So Chest/back, Legs, Shoulders and arms... OR Chest/back, Shoulders and arms, legs? Or does it not matter.

    • @marley720
      @marley720 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@janos3285I found that my arms recovered much better with a leg day after chest and back. Glad I made the change

    • @Champ19898
      @Champ19898 10 месяцев назад +1

      @janos3285 I switch it up depending on how I feel. But tbh, it doesn’t really matter as long as you feel good and are able to pump out a good session.

    • @matthewcarbone2108
      @matthewcarbone2108 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@janos3285 personally i like legs in the middle..gives the shoulders etc more rest

  • @philthyphil3324
    @philthyphil3324 7 месяцев назад

    Good video, I've been really trying to bring up my back and shoulders, as I feel they are my weakest points. I do:
    Sunday back and rear delts
    Monday chest and side delts
    Tuesday rest
    Wednesday RDL day for hams back rear delts
    Thursday biceps triceps side delts
    Friday squat day quads and calves
    Saturday rest

  • @jontc1
    @jontc1 10 месяцев назад

    2 on 1 off bro splits with cardio on off days. Weekend off every 2 weeks. Seems the best for my lifestyle and it's this channel that helped me decide this. Just started so I'll see how it goes. Thanks for all the advice 👍

    • @Lonesniper41
      @Lonesniper41 2 месяца назад

      So do o you train muscle twice / week?

  • @daniell5751
    @daniell5751 4 месяца назад

    Love the 4 day Split
    Arms, Legs, rest, Chest& Shoulders, Back&Forearms, Rest, Repeat

  • @ziyaadgoolam8439
    @ziyaadgoolam8439 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great athlete

  • @mixalisxenofontos2679
    @mixalisxenofontos2679 Месяц назад

    Congratulations for your channel!!From your personal experience and also from your clients between ppl and Arnold antagonistic split for a 4 days program which one of those two is better for an intermediate level?Thank you in advance!!

  • @corenko
    @corenko 10 месяцев назад +6

    PPL + Upper/Lower or Arnold split + Upper/Lower, two of the best options for 5 days a week in my opinion, each muscle is hit 2 times per week plus you have synchronous split so every week is the same template

    • @mr.khorsani8740
      @mr.khorsani8740 15 дней назад

      I do both. One week ppl plus upper and lower then. Following upper lower Arnold. Repeat

  • @johnathanstormborn7462
    @johnathanstormborn7462 Месяц назад

    The point is to tailor your training to your specific needs with some general outlines.

  • @robertjamestaylor9261
    @robertjamestaylor9261 10 месяцев назад +1

    Chest/Back and Legs/Shoulders on non consecutive days, add bicep to one day, tricep to the other, it doesn't matter. You work muscle group 2x in 8 days, probably my favourite split out of all I tried

  • @pranavgaonkar8660
    @pranavgaonkar8660 10 месяцев назад +6

    Honorable Mention - Torso and Limbs with Biceps/Triceps/Legs/Forearms on Days 1 and 4, Chest/Back/Shoulders/Abs on Days 2 and 5, and rest on Days 3, 6, and 7. Optional cardio on Days 3 and 6.

  • @Hetr0
    @Hetr0 10 месяцев назад +2

    I just do 5 days straight and have the weekend off, i do the 5 day push pull
    1. Upper Body
    2. Lower Body
    3. Chest & Back
    4. Legs
    5. Shoulders Arms
    I no longer work, so i feel i have plenty of time to recover each day.
    I basically train hard 1st thing in morning and then recover of the rest of the day.
    It works though.
    My Dead Lift has gone from 1 rep max of 100kg to 175kg in 15 months
    My Bench Press has gone from 70kg 1rep max to 110kg 1Rep max
    I am getting noticeably bigger and stronger
    I also do some kick boxing in the evenings 3 times a week
    I am 50 and just had my Testosterone checked at our local doctors they measure results between 6 and 29 and mine came in at 26
    I am completely natural apart form Creatine, Zinc and Magnesium, Vitamin D
    About every 3 months i will take a deload week and do swimming for 1 hour in the mornings instead.

  • @Christopher-Lenz
    @Christopher-Lenz 10 месяцев назад

    Nice upload. Question for you: do you think there is any harm in doing a set of pushups at the end of every workout and not just on push day? Thnks

  • @DylanHoff
    @DylanHoff 2 месяца назад

    I love the antagonist split. Also love the PPAL split. But I make sure I hit everything twice a week because I'm OCD. Usually only rest once a week. Sometimes I go every day and combine the two. PPAL first 4 days. Back/Chest, Arms/Shoulders, Legs for last three weekdays. People say it's overtraining but fuck em. Works for me.

  • @davidliftsheavycircles
    @davidliftsheavycircles 9 месяцев назад

    I've been loving upper lower but am strongly considering ppl

  • @zoov9
    @zoov9 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thoughts on
    Torso limbs rest chest&back legs shoulders and arms rest repeat torso ect?

  • @Tikus_90
    @Tikus_90 10 месяцев назад

    My split is similar to Antagonistic split, but I cant see myself hitting arms once on week one, and chest on week two. Im currently Torso/Arms/Legs split, and I find myself tossing shoulders back and forth between torso and arm day, depends on time or fatigue. Its a six day split but with only Thursday off.

  • @srm4455
    @srm4455 5 месяцев назад

    I do Quad focused, Pull, Rest, Ham Focused, Push, Rest, repeat

  • @SkynetT800
    @SkynetT800 10 месяцев назад +2

    I train my back on Monday hardcore And at the very end I do one bicep exercise to failure. Tuesday chest And at the very end I do dips for triceps , Wednesday legs and at the very end Deadlifts Which work part of the back, Thursday shoulders hardcore, Friday biceps and triceps hardcore.

    • @loganfluegel925
      @loganfluegel925 10 месяцев назад

      That is a great split. Mine is similar, I love ending the week with arms.

  • @leonidasbasatis4443
    @leonidasbasatis4443 9 месяцев назад

    I an antagonistic chest and back workout, do you suggest alternating chest and back exercises not in a superset? For example 3 sets of Bench press followed by 3 sets if pull ups

  • @shane555
    @shane555 10 месяцев назад +6

    I've recently changed my workouts to Upper, Lower, PPL and its fantastic!
    I'm seeing much better results than with the Upper, Lower split I did before 💪😊

    • @jakubchrobry3701
      @jakubchrobry3701 9 месяцев назад +1

      Your the first person that I've seen do my combo Upper, Lower, PPL. Did you create this?
      More specific:
      M: Lower
      Tu: Upper
      W: Rest
      Th: Lower
      F: Push
      Sa: Pull including deadlift
      Su: Rest
      This seems to be an optimal place to put the deadlift.

    • @shane555
      @shane555 9 месяцев назад

      @@jakubchrobry3701 I'm surprised more people don't do it to be honest mate, it seems like the sweet spot, but maybe it's all down to personal preference.
      I just combined 2 routines - it's a combination of a PHUL (Power, Hypertrophy, Upper, Lower) split and a traditional PPL
      So for the Upper, Lower portion (Monday and Tuesday) I treat that as the Power part, lower reps, heavier weight and for the PPL part (Thursday, Friday and Saturday) I do normal Hypertrophy range of 3 sets of 8-12 reps.
      I like your rotation of putting lower/legs before upper body, I might try that, as I'd be less likely to want to skip legs on the weekend 😀

    • @jakubchrobry3701
      @jakubchrobry3701 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@shane555 I do all low rep. I should try to do half the week light and/or high-rep like you do. I put legs before upper body because I'm 59 and fatigue easy. My back and shoulders were not holding up well during squats. Now, I put squats after my rest day. This is important because squat is my weakest lift. I need to get my skinny legs bigger going into old age.

  • @nickdutton6218
    @nickdutton6218 10 месяцев назад +2

    I've been doing the antagonist split by my own invention, I do legs, chest/back, arms/shoulders Rest. Upper. Lower/arms.

    • @victortironi2403
      @victortironi2403 10 месяцев назад +2

      I’m on a similar one now. Upper/Lower/rest/Chest-Back/Legs/Arms-Delts. Great split.

    • @nickdutton6218
      @nickdutton6218 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@victortironi2403 That sounds great I might take that up when I need to spin it around

  • @joshmayden3913
    @joshmayden3913 10 месяцев назад

    On a PPAL split if your weak area is your legs where would you program that day?

  • @MickeyMouse-el5bk
    @MickeyMouse-el5bk 10 месяцев назад

    I have two pull two leg+shoulder one biceps one triceps and ine for chest. That works.

  • @user-ln5xb5sx1b
    @user-ln5xb5sx1b 9 месяцев назад

    What are you feelings about a 5 or 6 day full body split hitting each body part 5-6 days with lower sets and reps but doing this everyday

  • @jamesfahy9954
    @jamesfahy9954 10 месяцев назад

    Frank Castle knows gainz. 💀💪🏾

  • @szveszs
    @szveszs 10 месяцев назад +1

    I'm planning for the next phase of the training something like this based on this video:
    Week 1
    ─ Day 1: KINDA "Powerbuilding" Full Body workout
    ─ Day 2: OFF
    ─ Day 3: Another Full Body Workout (not the same style, "leaving some space" for the next day)
    ─ Day 4: Lateral & Rear Delts n' Forearms
    ─ Day 5: LEGS
    ─ Day 6: Chest n Back
    ─ Day 7: OFF
    PS: I'll need of course to leave "some space" on choose carefully stuff
    Week 2:
    ─ Day 1: LEGS
    ─ Day 2: Chest n Back
    ─ Day 3&4: OFF
    ─ Day 5: "THAT" Powerbuilding Full Body Workout
    ─ Day 6:: Lateral & Rear Delts & Forearms
    ─ Day 7: OFF
    Repeat cycle.

    • @TDV147
      @TDV147 10 месяцев назад

      It's better to train every muscle at least twice a week. This is especially true for the delts, biceps, calves etc. Otherwise they'll be recovered days before you hit them again, it's just suboptimal if you're past the novice stage in most cases.

    • @szveszs
      @szveszs 10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for replying. Well, front delts would be worked on Full Body compound movements (I do some calisthenics moves, so I do some dumblell planche exercise) days and also with the bench presses, legs would be worked 2x as on every Full Body day I do Squats or Trap Bar deadlifts and RDLs, calves and tibialis just on proper leg day, biceps and triceps would be hit 2x on "week 1". So, apart from Biceps and triceps, I'll try to hit 2x every muscles every week. Thanks @@TDV147

  • @outsiderdf
    @outsiderdf 4 месяца назад +1

    IDK, I see rest days as wasted time, and wasted opportunity to move another muscle into that day to focus on. Why not put better workouts into all muscles? Check my current split out (shoulder focus for now since I want them bigger):
    Day 1 Biceps, Chest
    Day 2 Rear delts, side delts, quads
    Day 3 Triceps, Back
    Day 4 Rear Delts, side delts, hams
    Day 5 repeat
    The delt volume is split into 2, so both of those days I'll do 4-5 sets of each, even just 3 sometimes. This split also removes the limiting smaller muscles from being just thrown in at the end, IE doing triceps after chest, and instead doing full hard biceps and then easily do your chest.
    But you could easily move this split from being shoulder focused to everything focused:
    Biceps, Chest
    Delts, Calves
    Triceps, Back
    Legs
    Or Biceps, Chest
    Delts, Quads
    Triceps, Back
    Hams, Calves
    Try it 😀

  • @akshaysharma1598
    @akshaysharma1598 8 месяцев назад

    i train 4 day push-pull -shoulder-legs, repeat split ,as shoulders is my lagging muscle and it needs more emphasis ,i feel training chest atleast 4 exercises are needed and same case for the shoulder ,that's why i train shoulder separately as i like train triceps after chest work is competed in 4 exercises ,in this split every 2nd week your back bi,chest tri will hit twice a week then on the next week shoulder and legs will get the twice a week treatment

    • @RickK-nf4lf
      @RickK-nf4lf 2 месяца назад

      On witch days are u restin with this split?

  • @lawdog369
    @lawdog369 10 месяцев назад +2

    I do a modified upper/lower which I thought I invented but Peter had a video about it so it has been around a while. Basically I do arms on leg day because it's too much doing chest back and shoulders plus arms on upper body day. And I really need help with forearms so I have been watching videos from arm wrestlers to learn how to grow them. If anybody has advice on what helped them to get huge forearms let me know! I am naturally an ectomorph with small wrists so any meat on the forearms will make my physique look so much better. Thanks.

    • @theydontexist
      @theydontexist 8 месяцев назад

      Peters torso limbs spilt pdf is really good. There’s alot of flexibility. Especially for arm training.

  • @dereigner9896
    @dereigner9896 10 месяцев назад +6

    I’m doing a wired split that so far has given me great results and would like your opinion
    Day 1 chest and biceps
    Day 2 legs and shoulders ( focus on side delts )
    Day 3 back and triceps
    Day 4 Rest
    Repeat

    • @G.Bfit.93
      @G.Bfit.93 8 месяцев назад

      Doing similar right now. I axe the leg/delt day, put quads with back put hams with chest and do delts both with chest (laterals) and with back (presses) in an A/rest/B/rest fashion. Do calves both days as well.

    • @G.Bfit.93
      @G.Bfit.93 8 месяцев назад

      A: Hams, Chest, Delts (laterals), Biceps, Calves.
      B: Quads, Back, Delts (presses), Triceps, Calves.
      High intensity, 1-2 sets per exercise, 1-3 exercises per muscle to failure. One day on one day off.

    • @G.Bfit.93
      @G.Bfit.93 8 месяцев назад

      Reason being since I have a back injury I find it hard to come in just for legs, otherwise I'd do A (Chest Delts Biceps) B (Quads Hams Calves) C (Back Delts Triceps) D ("rest" LISS+Calves) similar to you.

  • @deyvisonwillamy6931
    @deyvisonwillamy6931 10 месяцев назад +14

    The basics will always be the best
    The best 3 :
    Full body
    Upper lower
    Push pull legs
    Bro split is better for bodybuilders on gear.
    Renaissance periodization made a video about that.
    Don't study only one method of training, open your minds for different content.
    Try high volume or high intensity training, personal experience is important too.

  • @unrealexplorer
    @unrealexplorer 3 месяца назад

    1, Chest & Back off , 2, Legs , 3, shoulders & arms off Repeat the one that brought me the most results with decent recovery time .

  • @henrywang4010
    @henrywang4010 10 месяцев назад

    When is core?

  • @antonylynn7783
    @antonylynn7783 10 месяцев назад

    I have to brosplit, frequency messes my tendinitis. But I still get results.

    • @patrickjulius7352
      @patrickjulius7352 6 месяцев назад

      Interesting. I could see typical bro split giving tendinitis from a sneaky frequency. Chest Monday, shoulders Wednesday, and arms Friday I could see being tough on the elbows over time. High frequency for the triceps if you include direct and indirect. How do you structure it?

  • @npc2k
    @npc2k 10 месяцев назад

    Went from PPL back to a bro split and made more gains.

  • @fitnytech
    @fitnytech 9 месяцев назад

    Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen.

  • @user-vf3ol8gi6b
    @user-vf3ol8gi6b 10 месяцев назад

    Is it good if we train
    Mon - push
    Tue - pull
    Wed - legs
    Thu - rest
    Fri - upper
    Sat - lower
    Is it good or not

    • @srm4455
      @srm4455 5 месяцев назад

      yess

  • @victorbigstone8178
    @victorbigstone8178 10 месяцев назад

    👍👍👍

  • @GuaridoNutri
    @GuaridoNutri 10 месяцев назад +2

    i realised PPL can be good for arms if
    Pull - start with triceps, end with biceps
    legs
    push - start with biceps, end with triceps
    off
    repeat or make it with any other muscle group you need attention

    • @jamesberg2226
      @jamesberg2226 10 месяцев назад

      And your realization is wrong

  • @ShadowMantis702
    @ShadowMantis702 10 месяцев назад +2

    Why do I never see core exercises on these splits? Sure u work them indirectly, but they should be progressively overloaded as well, right?
    I always slap them after a session and feel they don’t get enough work to grow with the rest of my body.

    • @Han-nk3io
      @Han-nk3io 10 месяцев назад

      Bodybuilders skip abs.

  • @phililedube2990
    @phililedube2990 10 месяцев назад

    Im going with PPL as u mentioned,1 week now wanna see hows that gonna go

  • @jeelani5530
    @jeelani5530 10 месяцев назад

    ❤for🇮🇳 pro

  • @G.Bfit.93
    @G.Bfit.93 8 месяцев назад

    A: Hams, Chest, Delts (laterals), Biceps, Calves.
    B: Quads, Back, Delts (presses), Triceps, Calves.
    High intensity, 1-2 sets per exercise, 1-3 exercises per muscle to failure. One day on one day off.

  • @petarpetrovic8133
    @petarpetrovic8133 10 месяцев назад

    Just wait when he finds out that there is no workout split for "mass", and it's all about calories in calories out 😅

  • @rg_elite_training
    @rg_elite_training 10 месяцев назад

    Push pull legs rest upper arms rest

  • @jamesberg2226
    @jamesberg2226 10 месяцев назад +2

    Interviewer: " Tom, whats your opinion on Mike?"
    Tom Platz:
    " Mike is the goat. Then ,now and forever! He was the best boxer ever "
    Interviewer: " Which Mike are you talking about?"
    Tom Platz: " Mike Tyson "
    Interviewer: " I am asking about Mike Mentzer "
    Tom Platz: " hahaha, then it's simple. Two words- Arnold's bich"
    Bro roasted Mike Methzer again 💀

  • @fender1000100
    @fender1000100 2 месяца назад

    Is this guy natty?

  • @engr.tonystark3504
    @engr.tonystark3504 6 месяцев назад +1

    Don't listen to someone who uses steroids.

    • @user-gd8ib3hv7e
      @user-gd8ib3hv7e 3 месяца назад

      Bro steroids or not the way muscle builds itself works the same you still need progressive overload you still need to eat a lot to build muscle. Also we already know hes on steroids you don't have to spam it every video so STFU

  • @davidlear2372
    @davidlear2372 10 месяцев назад

    Dam Pete that Mario Rios is talking shit lol joking he probably would too guys a string bean trying to tell other guys with 10 times the muscle how to train

  • @-nath-7837
    @-nath-7837 10 месяцев назад +1

    I've done antagonistic splits. Ppl. Bro splits and guess what. Each of them I ended up reaching the same weights . I'm not a very consistent lifter I often have periods of inactivity. But each time I return to training and give it proper focus whatever split i do I always end up with a bench of 100kg for around 9 reps. So after just getting back into training again this week after 3 months off I'm doing a bro splits. 1 body part a day. Why you may ask it's not optimal you only hitting things once directly. Reason is outlined above. I got the same results as I did when I trained more frequently.

  • @StefanosMarinos
    @StefanosMarinos 10 месяцев назад +1

    Do a natty or not on yourself