How is an M777 Howitzer Aimed?
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Most artillery is aimed by looking through a sight at an candy-striped aiming post. The sight is then offset from the aiming post as ordered by the Fire Direction Center.
When the artillery is fired, the sight is rechecked to make sure the gun hasn't moved. If it has, the post is re-sighted before firing again.
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Most artillery is aimed by looking through a sight at an candy-striped aiming post. The sight is then offset from the aiming post as ordered by the Fire Direction Center.
When the artillery is fired, the sight is rechecked to make sure the gun hasn't moved. If it has, the post is re-sighted before firing again.
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It makes sense. Nice clear and concise explanation. I recognize those striped sticks from construction too. Thanks Ryan.
Artillery here, aiming poles are usually used as a backup nowadays, but the principles are still the same; the sticks are set at two different distances-usually about 50 and 100 meters. I enjoy your videos, and most of your information is highly accurate. Keep up the good work, brother.
Most of this seems like it could be computerised to speed up the process. Not just calculating the firing solution, but couldn't the targeting data be sent directly to the gun and lidar or other sensors be used in place of the aiming posts?
Or is this a case of that all being possible but what you've outlined is either a backup or more practical in real world conditions?
Question: how does counter artillery fire work, or: how do you locate an enemy artillery postision, get the distance and return accurate fire (I know it has something to do with sound but otherwise I have no clue).
Thank you
This was a great video
The mighty stick, the cutting edge of technology right there.
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
@@frostfox9752 That's what you call a "smart stick".
The mighty stick, a weapon so effective that if you break it in half you in fact double the number of sticks.
Speak softly and carry a big stick, you'll go far. - TeddyBear Roosevelt
They have sticks ? O boy we don't even get sticks I wish we were that advanced we use fingers for but for distancing
Please don't spread misinformation on the internet. Everyone knows FDC doesn't put their coffee down
I can confirm this.
they do
just to refill the cup 🤣
Hot sandwich? We had steak
Yeah and they never ever share with the gun line … me over here bopping coffee grounds cause I can’t have hot coffee while fdc gets a coffee maker ….marine corp logic there
Well like we specifically shared our coffee with the gun line so long as they pitched in on grounds we took that shit serious but what you aren't taking into account is 24/7 fires guns get to run hot gun cold gun and rotate sleep FDC has to be awake the entire time even a single gun is hot so literally 24 hour ops you grab sleep in the lulls between missions unless you're RTO in which case you better stay tf awake and monitor that radio I remember one time we had like 45 minutes between missions three days into 24 hour ops and our Fido woke up because we where laughing about tenacious d and legit as he woke up was screaming "target plots safe I extract altitude...." to which we laughed and told him to go back to sleep until the next mission that coffee is mission essential when your up three days screaming numbers like 1920s wall Street and have to announce and hear all communications perfectly so you don't send your chief and Fido to prison
The stick was mankind’s first weapon and it will be its last
Afraid you are right about that, question are if it's any people left fighting with stick's.
If nuclear winter happened, nobody left.
@@andrehunter1295 nuclear winter was disproved back in the 1990's, with the maximum duration of 3 - 5 years of moderate cooling, then rapid recovery. That was proved after Gulf War I, when an oil smoke winter was predicted under the old theories and entirely failed to occur.
Still, 5 years is a rather lengthy amount of time to wait for lunch.
As for stick weapons, I'll go with rocks. Everyone will be out of paper and the scissors will have rusted through, so I win. ;)
Iam14andthisisdeep
@@mrcroob8563 deep was all of the training to learn all of that stuff.
One thing I did throughout my military career was never, ever turn down free training. :)
Nah you corny bro
“From the type of shell fired to the spinning of the earth.”
“Remember what I taught you, at this distance you’ll also have to take the Coriolis effect into account” from COD4
At 2km, you will not need to compensate for the spinning of the earth; you will need to compensate for the spinning of the bullet.
That's Mark Wahlberg foolio whatchu mean COD haha
So if you travel with the spin you go faster and if you travel against the spin you waste more energy?
Distance AND direction. 90 degrees to the Coriolis is the Eotvos effect.
If I remember correctly the Coriolis effect changes with latitude and flight heading of the projectal.
To be honest, this is way beyond my Skil set. When I miss I three or more hundred shot I shoot the reciprocal of the miss on the target to my aiming point. It worked really well once.
"Guys! Someone stole the stick!"
"For fuck's sake, get that dog off the artillery team!"
But nobody can, because the dog outranks them all 😟
well, thats a good time to use the artillery bayonet to replace the stick :)
“Show me in the military doctrine that a dog cannot aim artillery!”
-ArtilleryBud Officer
#bestcommentever
Meanwhile the polish troops are retraining bears for deployment with their artillery....
(If you haven't read the story, look up wojtek, a bear adopted by a polish artillery crew in ww2, apparently was even trained to Cary things and was signed up as a soldier by his unit to collect his paycheque for food. He developed a taste for beer and cigarettes and retired to Edinburgh zoo, sometimes even still playfighting with his old battle buddies when they came to visit and jumped the fence )
I failed every math class I took in high school. Took them all twice, every year summer school. Then a buddy of mine came back from Fort Sill and explain trigonometry to me as an artillery man. I never failed another math class and now I do math for a living. So they may never put down a sandwich and coffee but they know that damn math
FDC aren't Artillery men. They are a pain in our ass.
I think see how it’s actually used in real life applications makes math way more understandable and applicable. Finding out why a circle is this diameter doesn’t mean much if you don’t see that in what you do
Can confirm, arty guys definitely can math.
Just did a college trig course, it's all ridiculously overcomplicated for no real reason.
@@noahw4623 I learned a practical type of Trig when I was in my Machinist Apprenticeship program. Then I went to College.
Trig was Algebra with Trig functions. As you stated, "ridiculously overcomplicated."
The most dangerous thing on the battlefield, the guy with the radio. He can rain hell on you.
@@justbreathefool well yeah, of course you need that.😄
Aiming poles are used as a secondary aiming reference. When firing degraded (no digital/electronic capability) you will normally use a collimator which is much closer to the howitzer, has internal illumination (if it’s not a busted POS) and is more accurate than aiming poles. Just an FYI.
Tis is true. Or if your not a complete scrub, your DFCS actually works.
The stick, the mighty weapon, from the spears of the Greeks, to the pikemen of Europe and now the guiding force of the field artillery.
The stick, the foundation of everything! Even the human body is made of sticks.
The earth actually spins around an invisible stick. It’s sticks all the way down.
we were and are monke with stick
@@Qwerty0791
😄😄
Why the fuck is there always two of the exact same comment just reworded top rated on every video
"FDC then puts down their hot coffee and sandwich"
Right as I put down my coffee and look up at the math homework. I need a sandwich.
if you focus on mastering all the fundamentals of your math it tends to become more intuitive and fun
working really hard on trig and algebra for example if you struggle in calculus
@@Colonies_Dev if you suck at the fundamentals and math just escapes you
The people with the coffee is the FO.
@@Colonies_Dev Any recommendations for doing that? Ive fallen behind with how these past years have gone…
I'm addicted to your in-depth analysys of various military tactics and how you break down complicated situations
My uncle was the spotter for a Howitzer cannon during the Gulf War. He helped to liberate Kuwait
As a infantry rifleman that ended up accidentally getting into a battery and being thrown into the position of FDC I can indeed say we do indeed have coffee and sandwiches and it was the best mistake of my career except for the math
That made no sense. Nobody would let an 11B do 13 series work. Not even 13F work, and they move with the infantry.
@@Budget_Prepper you seriously underestimate the military’s ability to fuck things up for people
@@Budget_Prepper the military gets things mixed up all the time it’s a huge organization I have no doubt this happened
You can actually count passed 4 😂
I have a question for you good sir! Was it all hand calculations or was there a spreadsheet you could use?
Humans went from "stabbing sticks into animals" to "using sticks to aim artillery"
*Sticks are the Absolute Pinnacle of Technological Advancement.*
*cough cough* the best melee weapon is a big spiky stick *cough cough*
@@therealevilmudbug "And someday you humans will build a stick with a spike SOo big it will destroy your whole world!"
And now we even fire big metal ones out of tanks at other tanks! The wonder of human ingenuity!
@@enterchannelname8981 We're also looking into super weapons where we drop big ass tungsten sticks from orbital stations!
The pointy stick technology has become very advanced.
-heard on a RUclips short, 'My Alien Roommate'
“… puts down their hot coffee and a sandwich” haha love the subtle shade 😎
No FDC would ever put down their coffee.
That’s some big stick energy and I’m all here for it
Former artillery Marine here, this was an outstanding quick peek into how arty works. My gun is now in Ukraine It blows my mind that's how life has gone, we expected to be firing against the Chinese back in 2010. Himars was the future when I was serving glad to find someone wanted our boondoggle. I find it odd to see triple sevens dug in and emplaced, static positions were considered a death sentence when I was still ramming life was all about the shoot and scoot back then. Oh how times have changed!
Was the M777 ever considered a boondoggle? Artillery has advantage that HIMAR's never will: it's cheap, its easy to build, and its easy to resupply. Rockets are delicate, aren't cheap to make, and supplying and loading them is a pain in the ass.
i guess they dont worry so much about counter fire since they outrange the russian artillery. sure airstrikes are a possibility but russia has shown its not very good with those unless they are hitting a city.
@@Sokar12345 there's a video of Russians trying to hit the M777s. First they miss them, for the second attack they are already moved out inna woods. Russian and accuracy don't go very good together but you still need to (be able to) manuver.
@@tomasteply1956 well they are still able to move but i think most of the time they dont have to.
thats awesome! so you're the reason they aren't using the gunner displays and CSD?
s/f
M3/14 (2004-2012)
0:56 "They are looking at low tech stick"
*SHAD HEAVY BREATHING*
"Even the mighty artillery - to this day, based on sticks!"
That's a long stick my dude
I hear it. But that besides, SCHTICK is still great to this day.
Lmao! Would love to see Shad's reaction to this!
Why does that excite freshwater and anadromous herrings?
"Put down their hot coffee..." that was such a great off hand way to call them a pog. Made me crack up pretty good.
What's a pog?
@@OK-yy6qz Person other than Grunt
@@VastumTempus as the grunt's medic, they never thought of calling me a pog. Largely because I outshot the lot of them with every weapon system that we had and could accurately call out 10 digit grids with only a map and compass. Oh, I also instructed in the M2 .50 BMG class.
Which really embarrassed them, that the medic knew their machine gun and they didn't.
Hey, I wasn't *always* a medic.
We only use the aiming poles as a backup. Most often you use a collimeter.
"The FDC then puts down their hot coffee and sandwich!" HA Ha ha! I was a "Gun Bunny" for a while, and the FO's and FDC's always tried to get our goat with the phrase, "Pull string; get cookie!" Stay safe and thank you for sharing.
FIRE MISSION!!!
God I miss those days.
@@budc.8172 I was on an M109A6 Paladin. Nothing like a 65,000-pound vehicle rocking back about a foot and a half!
@@budc.8172 FIRE MISSION!!!….shit. Flashback. Lol
Hey man not everybody can be a math wiz we need dudes to shoot the gun too no shame lol
@@TheBookofLab I chose 13B when the recruiters looked at my ASVAB scores and said, "Just hand him the book, he's qualified for anything." In High School I was the only person in the history of our school to win the National Math Competition two years in a row. When I took that aforementioned ASVAB I was trying to do better than the 99th percentile. (Shame Faced Emoji) I hadn't taken any statistics courses, so I didn't know there is no higher score than the 99th percentile. Now that I've been on the gun line, I wouldn't go back and change it for an FDC job. Those guys were too close to the HQ for me. My admiration, though, goes to the forward observers. In My (often shouted so not so) Humble Opinion, Field Artillery is Combat Support, not Combat Arms. FO's though, those guys are Combat Arms. Stay safe!
US Military: The most technologically advanced in the world with the most sophisticated equipment
Also US Military: You use these sticks to aim.
Cheap, reliable, immune to cyber warfare - sticks are op
@@qwertyuiop5530 also look at Call of Duty how many people get major amount of kills with the Kali sticks
Sticks and Math to aim. On grease boards.
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
I’m really curious to know if there’s a program to integrate machine learning to slowly phase out FDCs. if you just have a machine linked to the network analyze flight path data based on easily collectable data about the firing area, wouldn't that be possible to just have a forward observer shoot some info to the gunners?
My grandfather used to work as a member of an FDC during his mandatory service in the British Army during the 50’s (He effectively just sat around doing drills in West Germany from what he tells), and it always fascinated me to think of a group of people like my grandpa in a real combat situation who would be cranking out hard maths to calculate how to hit a target with an artillery cannon.
“Puts down their hot coffee and sandwiches” you can hear the disgruntled Platoon commander in this phrase
And at night we have to walk to all of those aiming poles and turn on a little green or red flashlight so we can still have a reference. Fun times having to rock paper scissors in Afghanistan to see who has to turn on the lights at night. I'm not very good at rock paper scissors tho...
Even worse if you were dug in to a mountainside. 🤦♂️ I hated that. Lol. Forgot to turn them off one day. Then, when night came, I wen to turn them on. But, apparently, I turned them off. We ended up having a fire mission right at dusk. And my ass proceeded to get smoked for about 2 hours after the mission. Running up and down that mountain side turning them on and then turning them off again. 🤦♂️🤦♂️
My cousin in Iraq a few years ago said at one time the enemy was less than 200 yards away from his artillery gun. Is this something that happens in modern battles.
💋💪🏽SFFF.
@@benrollin1207 it definitely could, depends purely on unit movement and environmental awareness
Hey Loser, so how many innocent people you have killed invading countries?
Those “sticks” are really there to serve as backups, most of the aiming is done by a computer built into the guns which can get you onto the deflection you want faster than the sticks can.
Or a colimeter definitely alot easier then running poles or use a DAP if you got one don't have to worry about near far line or displacement
Once again I have learned something from Ryan Mcbeth that I have wondered about for 58 years! ❤👍💯
It’s pure magic. The sages show them the way from the warmth or coolness of their tents.
Turns out fixed reference points in any calculation are still pretty sweet. You could probably improv these in the field with insulation tape and 2x4 scraps.
you can also use a DAP (distant aiming point).. its been year I forget but I think it just needs to be 2100 meters or more away.. and its what you use when you colimeter isn't working properly.. and/or the ammo truck runs over your aiming posts
@@MattCamp why does that sound like it comes from experience
@@little_lord_tam I may have shot a few rounds off a DAP in my time... And may have see a faulty collimeter and some run over aiming posts..
@@MattCamp we use sticks sometimes but I just call them storypoles and the aiming posts seem like an important thing to run over nice to know there’s that guy or fuck ups everywhere not just on my job site lol sorry you had to deal with dipshits that make your job harder
@@forevernomad1766 Haha, this was a funny read. Very true, they're everywhere, be careful 🤣
I was a motarman the aiming stakes are for direction of shooting,then a charge is for distance, and up or down is for location
The mortarmen attach charges to the tail of the round which adds propellant to the round, thus increasing the range. You alter the trajectory within the added range of the shaped charges by pointing up or down.
@Stefan Parocki I use to hang a four duce motor all day and illumination for tanks at night,I know about trajectory and there is a left or right on the tube for adjusting fire on target,When you hang a round and things like wind direction and rotation of the earth come into play on some shots plus some targets move they ain't always dug in,so you shoot and scoot so you don't become a target youself
@Stefan Parocki It's more complicated than that. Angle increases distance upto 45 degrees, past that it starts to decrease. Charges increase the length of the projectile path which increases the distance. It's possible to hit the same spot from 2 different angles, that's where tot (time on target) comes in. The higher arch will always take longer to hit the target compared to the lower arch equivalent. It also obviously changes what angle the artillery round hits the target at which could be important if the target is a vehicle or a building.
we stuck 2 sticks in front of our foxholes n trenches for field of fire too, not just the arty boys doing it...
Yes aiming circles for Quick fire missions, shoot and scoot,when your dug in It's going to get Hairy in a big hurry
Soldier 1: what are your aiming at
Soldier 2:big stick
Good info. I always wondered how they aim this stuff at the enemy
My grandfather was an artillery spotter in WW2 flying in grasshoppers to give firing coordinates to the howitzers on the ground. After realizing that their division wasn't doing well with hitting targets, while on furlough, my grandfather ended up making a manual targeting computer using cams to help calculate angle of fire, fuse, etc., to better hit targets. His commanding officer was impressed with their improvement amd transferred my grandfather to work in a lab engineering bomber sights and aircraft components for the rest of the war.
Amazing! Thanks for sharing
Your grandfather is an absolute genius!
The man was too smart to risk out in the field. No telling how many American lives his work saved over many conflicts just by helping prevent friendly fire from bad coordinates. Not to mention taking out the enemy. One of my uncles that served in France and going into Germany was hit by friendly fire in an artillery barrage. Carried shrapnel near his spine the rest of his life from it.
Awesome story, your grandfather was a smart man. 😊
What was his name? I would like to read about him.
"Puts down their hot coffee and sandwich" lol. Thanks for the laugh. Love your videos.
I love that on one hand, someone did a full on firing solution, and yet its communicated just by _stick_
WOOOHOOOO!!!!! US Army 13E (Canon Fire Direction Specialist) here!!! This was my job when I was in the Army.
And FYI... The FDC doesn't have coffee and sandwhiches, the FDO does, and we typically had to wake him up for fire missions.
This stick brought back memories of when I was a civil engineering student. I don't think they are used in the exact same way, but for sure there are similarities.
Haha same mate
I was a mortar man and we used aiming circles to verify our sights. We use a lot of the same techniques as engineers. We had to do to a verified spot on base and use three references points and magnetic north to calibrate our equipment. It would give us a correction for deflection. It’s been a while for me might be forgetting a few terms.
EDM's are neat as heck, am I right? Field Surveying and rifle ballistics are quite similar. I took a class for Engineering, and ended up learning how to shoot better. 🤔 If the air can deviate a Laser, it can deviate a bullet. The more you know
Nice
@@Gunfighter5 yeah if you have a theodolite at a higher accuracy in terms of Declination for the aiming circle. As surveyor (13T MOS, it use to be 82C, but that another story all together.) We were tasked to help out a smoke, SSG of the mortar crew. We would give them the Declination of the OS
I was told that if we ever see the enemy don't even bother aiming, it's too late. Artillery men really get slack for being "lazy" but I think it's an honor being the grim reaper of the battlefield.
We definitely ain't the grim reaper of the battlefield. Fisters tell me all the time we're inaccurate asf lol. But gaw dahm we'll roll you at spades.
FOs are definitely the coolest most awesome people on the battlefield
@@ds6872 after combat engineers
@@demnbrown naw, engineers are in the rear building bridges and bathrooms
@@ds6872 disagree, engineers be building shit like bridges and bunkers, sometimes under fire.
I always assumed that the aiming sight on an artillery piece contained some sort of compass and/or artificial horizon type instrument.
Nope. The most it’s got are leveling bubbles, set your deflection(elevation) and spin the wheel tell the bubbles level. Verify on your aiming reference(Aiming Poles in this case)
The firing azimuth(Direction of Fire) is verified two separate ways before before its considered safe to fire.
It’s an over simplification, but I hope it gave you the answers you wanted.
You are correct. That device is located on the ground and looks like a telescope (the kind you look at stars with). This device is called a COLLAMETER. This collameter has a bunch of numbers in it that are called MILLS. A mill is a very small increment of a Degree. This horizontal adjustment is known as DEFLECTION with the very center of the firing battery being Deflection 0. On the other side of the Army's older cannons is another sight that gives you another number known as a QUADRANT. This is the amount of elevation the cannon needs to reach a given distance. Deflection (left & right) and Quadrant (up and down) allow you to find any location on a map.
I love to learn. Thanks again, Mr. McBeth.
Thank you, sincerely, for explaining that to us !!!
My pleasure!
Please do this in-depth. That's some black magic right there
I'm no artilleryman, but things like stakes, muzzle velocities, etc, are constant. The stake is always 50m away, and things like muzzle velocity are always the same within a certain margin of error. If you aim the gun at the same spot each time, it will hit near where the round is supposed to go.
I imagine the FDC mathematician wizards have the entire map formulated by the time anyone needs a fire mission, and that they adjust the formula for dynamic variables like wind and air pressure.
Oh dude being g a forward observer is so much better
I am working on an in-depth video right now. It just takes a lot of time.
@@RyanMcBethProgramming don't forget to mention the surveyors! Everyone always forgets about us in artillery lol
It’s an exercise in trigonometry. Before GPS, the location of the forward observer and artillery had to be estimated by where each unit believed they were on the map and the line between them represented one side of a triangle. The FO would then calculate the bearing and range to the target using a compass and optical rangefinder which would represent the second side of triangle. The third side of the triangle is the line between the target and the artillery and then you simply have to invoke your trigonometry lessons from high school to calculate the range to the target.
Once GPS and laser range finders were deployed to artillery units in the late 1980’s, they could more accurately determine where each untit was in relation to each other on the map and instead of taking three to four rounds to get the shell on target, you only needed one or two.
We have gotten so good at throwing rocks we have to take in a account the Earth's rotation. Truly the definition of putting all your points into one skill
I’ve wondered about this for years. Thank you
I was a 13P (MLRS FDC) for over 6 years. You gave a pretty good and simple answer for everyone, and I appreciate it. Many people without an artillery or physics background wouldn't understand the slew of variables that go into the calculations, not the least of which is the direction and force of the wind at different altitudes and the speed the round is traveling. Redlegs get a bad rap from many other MOSs, so truthfully, I do appreciate it.
Edit: Spelling
I *really* simplified it.
I never really thought of wind shift at altitude. Is there an unclassified way to measure that? While not someone able to put this to use in person due to health disqualifiers, I do find the math side interesting.
@@BenLJudy Weather balloons gather data as they go up/ I forget the exact interval they gather it though.
They are probably sighting in on an Aiming Collimator, the aiming sticks are the back up.. Great video and explanation though. And yes, the FDC has the best snacks and coffee.
And the FDC uses AFATDS 🤓
@@user-sx4yu3nw4j facts! but this Ukrainian platoon would have to be using the export version.
@@user-sx4yu3nw4j yes we did use AFATDS.. But when that AFATDS went down.. We had to use manual FDC.. A
Ryan! I'm a 13B and I can give you the best description of how we aim our pieces! He's more likely looking at his Collimeter instead of the aiming poles because the aiming poles are our last resort of the multitude of fallback aiming references that we have!
As a 13B I am proud of your Artillery knowledge. You even know that FDC is always eating and not doing much!
sticks : we're important you know
You may be better than me, but your nothing without me
Mortars use basically the same system, FO's, striped poles, FDC, entrenched sometimes, etc. Indirect fire can be devastating!
Thanks for a answer to a question that I've been curious about for years. 😊
Thank you for the information on artillery, Great job
Also coming from current A former member of a fdc back in south korea camp casey, i was in a mlrs unit and yes some of our safety especially the tests we'd practice on manual gunnery which is the math stuff, but most of what we do we use our current systems, all can be looked up on google btw, incase anyone is curious.
I’m retired FDC.. Heavy my whole career.. We used AFATDS.. But on all our manual texts.. We had to get a 95% or above.. Or we failed..
@@markbrown2686 pretty much the when I was at casey.
Puts down Their hot coffee and sandwich and adjusts their ergonomic seat cuz their back hurts
Rough duty. No movie tonight.
DOUGout
Finally! Ryan many thanks, i have always wanted to understand this. cool channel from an intelligent guy!
You had me at "then sets down their hot coffee and sandwich". ROFL!!
You sir are 100% accurate!!!
We can shoot so far that we have to keep the rotation on earth in mind to be accurate
But we use a stick to aim
I’ll never forget my dad telling me about why he was an FDC in the marines despite being bad at math. He told me “the recruiter told me I’d be the guy on the radio not doing doing math on a note card”
This is actually really interesting, thanks!
This was amazing! Thank you for this!
Every time I ponder something, you cover it 72 hours later in an absolutely elegant way 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
"Must do complex maffs, how must we calculate?"
"Me stare at stick, point next to stick, push the splody, check stick againe"
I mean theoretically if you hit everything within five hundred feet of the target you'll hit the target eventually. That's what MLRS was made for. Why aim when you can send 40 different rockets and atleast one will kill something with shrapnel.
Honestly did not know that. Thanks for a very informative video
Ryan just in case, during my mortar school in Poland we were taught that those poles were to be used only if there is a lack other of proper targets like buildings with a visible vertical line that could be used as reference point. The far the point/line is the better, you could use electrical poles or even trees if you spot one that fits (visible, with a straight vertical edge, and can be easily distinguished in the environment). Poles can be used in open fields or in open areas in forests.
Shadaversity would be proud, once again, the mighty STICK
Ryan is just American Shad, prove me wrong
Napoleon's particular skill
Thing go up things goes down. Very fascinating.
The magic of parabolic math, a reference stick, and good old fashioned low tech solutions
"Hey what do you think he's looking at?"
"stik"
"What?"
"stik."
Same sticks used for mortars too.
The most advanced piece of technology on any battlefield is the training & smarts of a skilled soldier.
A collimator is normally the primary aiming reference for the gun, and then the poles are the secondary aiming reference. Then you get into the nitty gritty like DAP’s (Distant Aiming Point) or reciprocal lay. I mean you can even lay off the stars if need be for an aiming reference.
exactly this guy is about half cooked on howitzer aiming. As a gunner and gun chief lol this guy was cracking me up
In the Soviet military the guy looking thru the “Bussol” to see a reading on another equipment, not a stick. The commander of the battery is at the “Observing post” with the communication specialist. The commander looks at the target and gives orders thru the communication soldier. He relates the shooting numbers to the artillery units, so they can shoot. The bottom line is: in the Soviet artillery the commander at the “lookout post” both the observer and the firing direction group. It’s been a while since I took the artillery classes while attending civil engineering university in the USSR…. That’s all I remember on this topic …
Thank you. I've been wondering how these things worked. I thought those sights were aimed at a very tiny compass and level bolted to the gun.
Almost, we do verify the direction with more accurate compasses called an aiming circle. From there we set up the references so we can shoot with minor adjustments. :)
THANK YOU RYAN MCBETH
The candy cane of imminent doom.
When ever BF1 came out I was my friends FO for his arti fire.
I used to play spotter for my friend in battlefield 4
A stick, and math.
The two deadliest members of the U.S. Armed Forces
1. I did not know that. 2. I can see how shell choice and math can make that magic happen! Thanks for the insight into how this distant artillery method works.
Interesting great post I always was fascinated by artillery.
Russian soldiers hearing how to shoot more accurately : I'll pretend I didn't see that
This is a common technique that is taught in every modern military
That has artillery
@@ordinarydude2237 and Russia has always been heavy on artillery. Not so much on FO's, but heavy on artillery.
I call it the Helen Keller School of Gunnery.
Roosevelt did say to carry a big stick
For aiming your even bigger gun
We now carry big sticks to fire big guns firing big shells at small people.
Many simple machines when combined create a powerful complex machine
I think that this is one of the few videos like this that I didn't already know how and why they do something in the military. nice video. I never honestly gave much thought to this to be honest but to know how and why they do it now makes it much more interesting. a lotta things I see there is usually some sort of common sense reasoning or it's simple to see how and or why they do something or how something operates . but yeah, being completely honest I really never thought about it. thanks for the explanation at best I figured it was just to get a general picture of what's down range . I knew the aiming was done with calculations like mortars and other similar artillery pieces. I never thought that the sight was actually and practical in the way they aimed the gun . pretty interesting for something so simple.
'Puts down their hot coffee and sandwhich.' So true Battle!!!
11B 1998-2006 2nd Bn 503rd Regt. 173Rd Abn..
"puts down his hot coffee and sandwich" LOL yeah i remember certain officers were forever slacking off...
"Puts down their hot coffee and sandwich" is probably be best statement about FDC i've ever heard
Thank you for this video. Years ago my son asked me this and I don’t know. Now I do.
Lie, tell then its an x-ray sight and let them tumble in the wind. Tell them to tell their friends too. 😈
Correction, FDC - f@$k'n death center
I’ve always wondered about that! Thanks.
Wow, that's interesting. Thanks Ryan 😮
I just always assumed they were looking into a scope with some type of compass with degrees of azimuth and elevation. That's way more low tech than I thought.
Not too far off actually. The whole howitzer is leveled and laid off the aiming circle which is very much like those things you see surveyors looking through. From there you punch out 3200 as your zero or center position. FDC gives you a deflection off of center like 3217 and you set that into your telescopic sight which moves. Then you look through it but since you have moved the sight off target you now have to traverse the gun back onto your aiming reference. It sounds more complicated than it is.
11Chucky here, Similar way how mortars are aimed aswell #HIGHANGLEHELL 🤙🏽🤙🏽🇺🇸
I like how it has been almost 200,000 years since we started using sticks as weapon, and it still is a very important part of a weapon.
I love how military science is always able to translate literal rocket science to really simple instructions that even a chimp on the ground can execute
And it hasn’t changed since WWI, they have computers now to do better math faster when they use to work with big book of tables, but it hasn’t changed
depends. other systems like the panzerhaubitze2000 doesnt use sticks. i have no idea what black magic it uses to hit anything but it seems to work somehow.
My grandfathers math teacher was a former german artillery officer. When he noticed that the boys were not interested in math, he explained to them, how to aim with a french gun that he used to fire. That caughed their interest.
@@jarlnils435 German officer teaching kids to fire French guns ? Which era are we talking about ? Muzzle loading cannons ?
@@williamkao5747 no, the man served in the Wehrmacht and before that in the army of the Weimarer Republik. He was the officer of a captured french gun during WWII. It was used to shoot from Calais over the channel at england. He was wounded during an allied air raid and send back home. He was my grandfathers teacher in the early 50s.
@@williamkao5747 many french guns were used by the germans after the fall of france. Because french field guns were more accurate than german ones.
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I like how the stick was mankind's first wepon and its still in use to this day it has even been in service before the Ak-47 and its still going strong.