Call Of Duty REVEALS How SBMM Works...
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- Опубликовано: 4 апр 2024
- Call of Duty has release a new blog explaining how their matchmaking systems work, this one focusing on ping reveals key details about how ping, skill and engagement are factors considered in Call of Duty's matchmaking philosophy for Multiplayer and possibly Warzone!
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The very first clip of you wiping a team by shooting THROUGH the downed guy's head to get ANOTHER headshot on the last guy alive is crazy.
And for the win no less. Sheesh what a kill cam.
Collateral for the dub is actually crazy
reverse boosting
@@NinoPurple Lmao, bot.
@NinoPurple even if that was the case which it isn't it still doesn't take away from how nuts the clip is
So basically if you play the game then your lobbies will be so hard you don't want to play and the only way to have fun playing is by not playing
That double single shot for the win was pure filth!
Call of Duty has revealed the first part of its matchmaking system, this one on ping. Did anything surprise you?
No because the game is absolute garbage
I must say I think you are excellent at explaining things relevant to this, very clear and concise keep up the great work!
Biggest issue is the game IS able to get you what it considers a good ping in a lobby full of sweats.
Even if the algorithm is meant to prioritize ping and it only sees skill as a lower priority, if it is almost always achieving the ping requirement, the skill requirement will have substantially more weight by nature.
It’s a system that seems by metrics to be succeeding because the metrics for success were set too low for the infrastructure in which it operates.
Exactly! The other day we were playing and my friend has a 1 kdr while mine is only 1.15 as of late… We ended up in a lobby against iSmixie and one her demon friends. It made us realize that maybe we are just placed in these lobbies for the streamers enjoyment at the cost of our own. The best part was when the two of them only got 2nd place with 20+ kills each because they were beaten by another team with an even higher kill count. SBMM my arse!!
@charredhusk. Agreed. What exactly is “an acceptable range” where i live 95 out of 100 games i am playing between 45-65 ping. How is that a fair experience if i have the same KD as other players in the lobby but they have a sub 20ms ping? Its crazy to think the creators and monitors of this system consider that a fair experience. If a 2kd player encounters a 1.5kd player and they arw both at 25ms ping who wins? The guy who is better and thats the definition of fairness. If two players have that same KD of 2.0 and they meet in game and one of them has a 50ms ping and the other has 18ms who is going to win? Thats NOT a fair fight between the two and it boggles my mind that nobody can see that. I guess i shouldnt expect different because whoever is in charge of this has definitely never played a game competitively in their life. Seriously though its absolute INSANITY that they cant wrap their head around this. Even worse though is that you know some of them know exactly what im saying is true but they do nothing and say nothing. Thats even worse
@@theblart4196you’re missing the point. Your KD’s were 1 and 1.15. That means that you win almost exactly 50% of your gun fights. In your case slightly more than 50%.
That means that in the vast majority of cases you MUST be in the appropriate skill level lobbies. If you were always in higher level lobbies you’d have a 0.6? KD etc etc. just have a think about what KD actually means. SBMM isn’t perfect but in your case the vast majority of times it must be working.
@@thesponzie maybe you are missing the point as well. If you put in very average player lobbie SMIXIE and few other extremely stacked high k/d teams, what will be the outcome? 3-5 teams will rack up 75% of all the kills. How can a 1 k/d player fight against 6 k/d player? is the 1 k/d player going to win 50% of the gunfights against 2,3,4,5,6 k/d players? I dont think so.
@@thesponzie for context, WZ1 I was a 1.7 kd player... WZ2 I became 1.5kd... and currently WZ3 the best I was at is 1.2kd and this is with me playing enough to always increase my skills. I do get what you are saying but when my highest kill game (not incl resurgence) is 14, then why is the majority of my lobbies ending with demon teams with someone at 15-30 kills?
I do understand that my teammates are a contributing factor, and often we have a friend that is only 0.5-0.8 with us so often I get stuck in 1v2 or 1v3 fights, but that should change the fact that we have demon filled lobbies. Or maybe sometimes it just feels that way haha!
So this is why even with so many people playing I'll often see the same players.
Yeah i played vondel few weeks back and saw a streamer in it when i won the game. I checked his stream and watched his hole stream back and he was in 5 games before that also. I think it is because we had 27 wins near a nuke and nearly same kd. I did not realise i was in 5 of his games back to back to back
I stopped playing solos on big map because I was killed by Metaphor in three different games in one day. All sus kills too. Solo experience is dead for me.
Same for me with Multiplayer, I’m on LATAM servers and often I see similar names on different days that I play. Also, I tend to solo queue a lot on MP and often get paired up *against* fully stacked clans, and mind you I have a 0.7-0.9 KD, I’m not that good, there must be something in the algorithm that doesn’t read my stats right.
The funny thing is in Multiplayer that you see the same players even when a new title releases...
There is a program out there that allows us to look at the API data- but it's made by a cheat provider and would presumably get you banned. But i would LOVE to see someone do an actual study of the lobbies, taking into account KD, lobby KD, performance, etc, using this. I bet it would be very illuminating.
Call of Duty and their original blog post specifically stated that amount of time played does not factor into matchmaking, but in this blog post they admit it clearly does, so right away my Spider Sense was going off, they are just giving you a bunch of information without actually explaining what we really want to hear, and I suspect they never will, obviously ping is going to be the first consideration, but they can and will sacrifice your connection quality to meet the Lobby criteria thereafter, and it's not about a good connection
Ding ding ding
Feels like they are trying to explain away a problem for sure
@@TheTacticalBrit just want to mention that your content lately has been some of the best in the WZ space. Very concise and almost always hitting the nail right on the head. Hope the devs are watching. Cheers man.
they're lying by omission to hide EOMM
It explicitly states there's no ebmm. You can see it in the document and tactical brit included the text in this video. Whether you believe that or not is another issue altogether. What they intended to imply in the white paper was that they use the KPIs to see if their SBMM is working well or not, not that hours played affects your lobby. Edit: I originally misinterpreted the paragraph too.
That opening game winning kill was amazing live. Fair to say still nutty watching it later on
I have a .72 k/d I play 1 or 2 times a week and spend between 2-3 hours on the game at a time. I get it I suck. I’m a 34 year old adult and consider myself a very casual gamer. With all that said, why are my lobbies extremely sweaty. Side note can we get rid of the perk that makes aiming easier while bunny hopping and sliding around?
The issue is that no matter how the system is set up, most players aren't happy with it. If skill were given more weight, we'd end up in fairer lobbies with better chances of winning. Despite considering myself slightly above average, I constantly get matched with players who are way better, making it impossible to compete. My squad and I, who are pretty decent players, haven't won a single Warzone match since launch, despite occasionally winning in Resurgence. It's frustrating because we're constantly up against players who outmatch us. Almost all of my friends have quit playing in the past month or so because it's just not fun anymore. No one likes to get stomped every single game. I hope they consider changing the matchmaking algorithm, but they seem content with it as it is as their "data" tells them it works perfectly. It might take a mass exodus of players for them to realize things need to change. At that point it will be too late.
I feel the exact same way!
That is the things most player are happy and that is the part you are missing the most. You are not prerequisite to "most players".
got 2 wins since the launch of the game. Thinking this is probably my worst WIN % ever which definetely has lead to playing maximum once a week. it's far from fun experience to be put against stacked TTV teams.
This is exactly why I can’t play this game
s3 killed the SBMM with this blogpost. i used to catch atleast 2 Ws a day in march. i havent gotten a single W in rebirth and already uninstalled. its a sinking ship and its because of SBMM.
First- what a well made video. So articulate.
Second- imagine if matchmaking was just random and allllll of this extraneous stuff didn’t matter. I’m sure everyone would have a better experience.
as i only play mp, i see the match making sbmm, ebmm is definitely how it work based on 18 month of playing between 2-4 hours an evening, my ping can be between 12 to 18 ping if i go over 22 ping ill get packet loss, if i play 8-10 hours on a weekend day, I've notice wins to loss ratios, same players and playlist all are factors, for instance i dont play free for all or s&d in my playlist, and noticed that it can drop you into playlist and you can tell that the game is more sweaty, ive also noticed that over that 8 hour game play the lobbies are varied in skill, and European player. i come to the conclusion that 100% there is an algorithm using, all the above ping, skill, engagement, wins losses, overall your in game performance, input methods and gaming devices, but this is just my observations, i did think about screen shooting each lobby and end game stats to see what match making looks like after a whole day of playing mp.
Thank you very much for this breakdown, I will be sharing the info with my crew. As we are in Australia, we feel these effects extremely harshly.
Also, has anybody gotten a nuke on rebirth? This gameplay almost proves that it’s impossible.
Great information 👍
Here in the upper Midwest/pains states I'm lucky to get a 60ms server. We're usually playing on 76 ms
Very quality video
Dude - you are the most articulate streamer
What did you make of what they said about tick rate?
1:02 You thought you could gloss over that shot Lacky? 🔥🔥🔥
SBMM Suxxx and THATS the only Fact that i have explored in Hours of CoD:/MW3/Warzone etc ! ^^ PS: Good old Times when we played Quake, UT , CS1.6 (with Podbot) ;). Greetings from Germany with good Servers !
In CS 1.6 you had dedicated servers. We knew where all the sweats who participate in WESG were playing so we would pick generaly lower skilled local servers. And the same with tournaments, local ones were waaaay lower skilled then qualifiers for top notch EU tournaments so you simply would choose small LANS in your local area.. SBMM Was always there and it's not a bad thing. It's just Activision implementation of it is horrible.
I play during peak hours next to Boston, New York City, and Montreal. Half my lobbies speak Spanish.
I want to know for sure or not about Parties. If I am the better player and I join a friend who is not as good and he is the party leader, does the matchmaking prioritize his stats and not mine? Or since I’m the better player in the party it will affect his lobbies and give him harder matches because I’m in the party?
It's the average stats.
I think it averages them. And sometimes will bounce back and forth a bit. For example when I play with my buddy who lives in alaska, regardless of host, it will occassionally give me local servers (22ms-50ms ping) and not the 75ms I got on his. We are roughly the same KD.
I think it used to make a difference in wz1. Currently I don’t see a difference. I play mostly resurgence with my wife and two friends. Two of us are above average, one average and my wife flies the helicopter into everyone she can😂. Using her as the host now we have been in the blender constantly. It’s getting to the point where it is no longer fun. I think the only reason we still play is just for the hour or two of communication with friends that live 10-16 hours away from us. I really wish they would make a change.
@@angryplaydoh Yeah. My Dad bought MW3 and he can’t even play with how fast other players are. He can’t even get 5 kills in regular multiplayer.
Every match last night I had significant packet loss. They need to work on servers.
Knew that clip would be in the next video😂
As a Swiss, you never know if you play against Italians, Germans, French.. Is that the same in England etc?
Here in West Wales I never get lobbies under 27ms at anytime of day
I've been trying to enjoy rebirth. 1st game in was glorious. Every single one since I seem to be in with completely unchallengable opponents and I'm just immediately dying every match. It isn't fun and I'm sad about it. Some seems to run up behind me out of nowhere with a little smg and genuinely instantly delete me or I get beamed out the air immediately on respawn or I somehow get magically outdamaged even if I get the first shots in and miss none. Everything feels off, movement feels wack. I don't know what's going on but I'm finding myself more and more just switching it off :(
Just a casual collat for the win at 1:05 haha nasty!!
I think you've misread that paragraph about ebmm. It explicitly says they don't use them KPIs as inputs. If you quit the game because of bad lobbies they don't adjust the algorithms to keep YOU (ebmm) around, they adjust them to keep EVERYONE (kinda sbmm) around. With that said, i find it hard to believe ebmm isn't in warzone. Additionally, i find it hard to believe "ping is king". I'm in the blender all the time now and if i get a win it gets 10 times worse. The original warzone used to give me 3 easy lobbies/wins before putting me in the blender.
What is the sniper set up
I live an hour away from London and yet I am always, and I mean ALWAYS on 40+ ping playing against French, German and Italian players where it feels like they see me a good half a second before they’re even on my screen. 3/6 of which will be running the MCW ranked class in public multiplayer matches… I just wanna chill and rank up my guns/camos man.
As far as servers when I join my buddy who lives in England The ping is at 150 to 130 and my lobbies in the US are at 30 to 50 ping. Hey is this the same way when he joins me and vice versa
depends on what sever you get in us lowest i get with my mate is 120 to 160
I'm in LA, play with the crossplay turned off on PS5 every single lobby I have is 60 ping or higher .. So annoying
Ping would be lower if you turned on crossplay
@sagz808 and then you have to deal with cheaters
The word "rigged" is popping up on multiple platforms more and more.
I started playing COD during covid. Really fell in love with the movement and gunplay. Id never done online shooters and really enjoyed it. At first!
As time went on I started to feel something was off. If i did well and got a bunch of kills I suddenly was being shot out of the sky when dropping and could barely get a load out. If I was really struggling I would start to hear children in the death chat. I could not figure it out. I searched the general tooic and discovered sbmm. It changed my entire perspective of the game. Up until that moment, I thought I was being dropped into a map with random 100 players to battle it out. It turns out Activision had me on a slot machine.
I still play with eyes wide open. I use a vpn and geo fence to keep ping low. I still get sweats but im sweaty now too.
SBMM and EOMM is eventually going to kill the golden goose. The moment "rigged" goes from niche subreddits and youtubers to mainstream the online shooter genre will quickly become a joke. Hopefully, this is when public mathes will drop sbmm and eomm. Even little timmy gets mad when he thinks his wins are fake.
That API had to be killed when streamers were shown to get consistently sub 1 kd avg. lobbies 9 out of 10 games (literal) vs. non streamers' inverse case (1 out of 10 matches) - comparing like locations and times of day etc.
That's not why it was killed. It was killed so you don't know when you're winning just because you're facing bots.
Bro I live in Atlanta and it always pushed me to servers where I have over 70 ping. It gets so bad that in the performance overlay on pc, it says N/A next to latency. Ping is not king. It's a fucking handicap system. No doubt.
Yo I’ve never had a game with ping less than 13. But 99% of the time I’m searching with 200ms ping. With latency 70 ping and higher
I have been noticing this trend with a lot of companies. This sort of "we know better than you" approach to matchmaking, game balance, and even content released. It just feels really out of touch to me, and these kind of public facing posts confirm that. You tell players in a blog post that certain things matter or don't matter when it comes to matchmaking, then you release your actual behind the scenes info and lo and behold, the don't matters actually do matter. For a giant like COD I don't see a path forward for them without them losing a significant amount of players, they will just continue to ignore feedback.
The matchmaking drove me off the game. It’s just made for kids now. like I’m not working all day or playing shit like that in my free time. Fact is the matchmaking makes the game feel like a job instead of just playing games.
I am in Florida and most of the time I get ping of 90 or higher.
I don't know if this applies to COD or not, but one of the reasons you see extremely high skilled players in just about any tier of Apex Legends lobby centers around that time-to-match metric. There simply are not enough people playing the game at the .01 percentile. The game will never put together a match in that bucket because it would take forever, so the result is that it just throws predators into your gold lobby instead.
i just want add developers not even update statistic of players so how come sbmm could based on kd as well?
20 ping doesn’t feel like 20 ping so frequently because I have no idea what the other player’s ping is and/or how fast the server is and/or what type of lag compensation/net code is running, etc.
I can see my ping, and it’s almost always 30 ping or less. But so often it feels like what we used to call a 2 bar.
Even if ping is a high priority in their algorithm, there’s more to the connection story than ping that impacts the experience.
I’m less frustrated with the lobbies and more frustrated with broken guns like the renetti. Seems like gun balance shouldn’t be that hard to figure out, yet there’s always a gun that’s broken in the game
It's a mystery to me how they can have such a big focus of connection, yet have such a poor system for finding teammates. Whenever I use the browser there are rarely more than a couple of available options. Invariably I'm paired with US players meaning high ping for myself or for them.
Connection, region and ping is literally the last factor they weight in the algorithm - I'm in the UK and routinely get awful lag, desync, high latency lobbies in Turkey, Pakistan, USA which makes the experience dreadful.
I couldn’t even listen to you man, I was too busy watching that first clip. On a 30bomb too? I wanna see that whole match. It’s crazy how much better off you are on a PC, you know when you try to snipe the 2nd guy landing in and have to switch to the Renetti? Well that move isn’t possible on xbox lol, anytime you slide, you just get downed, there’s no time to complete the slide and chall back out the other direction and get the down. It’s like the difference of playing wz1.0 on xbox one and xbox series, night and day movement and outplay abilities. Makes me sad that my console is already outdated to the point where it changes the entire game
The ping on my xbox is between 35 and 121 ping on multiplayer and today i ended up playing 4 anericans
Bonkers
12:43 me here playing with +40 😂
I'd imagine, like their gun "buffs" and "nerfs" there are hidden stats in the SBMM that they aren't mentioning. Just no way the lobbies get as cranked as they do the second you win a match.
How am I level 80 playing against people no lower than level 400?
Link the paper.
Yeah, earned a sub from me👍
I don't think anyone claimed that they are not factoring in ping. But ping is not king, even in Multiplayer I typically get 35-40 ping in 9 out of 10 games instead of the 24 ping that would be my closest server.
Its because the matchmaking isnt the major issue...its the realtime, dynamic, ingame player and gameplay manipulation that is the problem or EOMM, alongside very strong latency compensation. It doesnt matter what your connection is like first and foremost, because there are so many other factors and variables used in its algorithm, that simply dont need to be. There are also those patents that exist for a reason. As tinfoil hat as it may seem and whether or not you want to believe in them, the company likely spent A LOT of money/resources on the R&D of those patents and their implementations. They arent there for no reason. Cod have basically devolved into a mobile game for consoles, constantly altering outcomes and your game to keep you addicting and buying mtx. Same exact thing as casinos, which are designed to addict you to gambling your life away.
The fact that they likely have lawyers present when organizing and conducting and publishing these interviews, just so they can cleverly avoid the real questions and lie by omission, is honestly disgusting and nefarious to their consumers/player base. Also the fact that this is going on at all and theyre not transparent about the matter like many other devs, means something is definitely wrong. Cod just needs to die. Im truly hoping if or when Xdefiant is released, that it is indeed a cod killer.
Well thanks for reading the document ( cause I sure as hell won't ) unless I fully loose my will to live and wish to die by complete bordom. What actual alternatives does COD have other than this system for match making? When you have millions of players across many continents playing simultaneously, all expecting to have the best possible experience, you have to prioritize connection. People have to be able to play the game. The people complaining about SBMM have no idea how game design or how net coding works in multiplayer games. The only solution i could think of for future COD to address this, would be some kind of AI statistics based management system which could monitor every players performance real time and make calculautions to match you with other sweaty basement dwelling trash. Great video though.
This is like westworld
They trying to create perfect environment . The problem is that it's impossible.
Since they removed Moshpit 12 vs 12 (in multi), I removed MW3. The whole 6 vs 6 are all simply unplayable (because of the SBMM/EOMM. I am lvl 461 and a K/D of 3.50). There are only CDL/Ranked players, Max level, sweating, pro jump-shot, pro Cancel-slide, no one does Killstrike and everyone has a horrible K/D. Moshpit 12 vs 12 allowed players of different levels, which balanced the gameplay
My ping is long and the vast majorities of the lobbies i find myself in are unenjoyably sweaty - in warzone. Multiplayer i find way more chill and faster matches. This seems to be the opposite to what you're saying. No idea why but I'm starting to hate my warzone experiences.
Heres how my evenings go. i load up the game win my first ffa match, then the rest if the night im in sweatsville and getting destroyed. Barely able to break even. Im sick of it. Man i miss DMZ.
I’m level 80 and every single game I play I get the best players to touch a controller and everyone else is level 400 500 even the ones on my team and my teamates. Dont know how to shoot their guns
This shit is crazy!
The problem I have is 2 of my team are better than me an the 4th member. We get shit on over and over because 2 are better players... sbmm only works if your team are all similar levels of skill.. or if you play solo
Because they said they want an equal amount of wins and losses regardless of skill they have essentially turned the matchmaking into a slot machine.
My head hurts
You are part of a small fraction of the UK that gets lobbies with a ping below 5ms. Ive got 1tb internet and im near leeds and me and all my friends have litrelly NEVER had a single game with aping below 40ms. We should all be as lucky as you being nice and close to the activision server! But answer me this why are 98% of all my games running on a server in germany, france Italy etc and never UK? How is stick me into a game running on a server hundreds of miles away any sort of benefit to me and any games i might get? Ive huge lag huge ping and at a automatic handicap before the vame even starts!!!
I would just like a system in game that I can define what I deem to be an acceptable maximum ping for matchmaking. The game kidnaps me to US at 100-160 ping out of convenience yet I'd rather wait 2 minutes to find an EU lobby than be human trafficked to another continent in 15-20 seconds
Wait... Why was he buying so many plates?
It's part of the new nuke contract strategy
I always laugh at these systems…im a dad. If i have 30mins i will play 30mins. If i have 2 hours ill play 2hours. I sometimes smile that the „algorithm“ then sometimes might try to make sense of it on how to make me play longer…guess thats why i get so wildly different lobbies everytime i play…
Honestly I stopped playing. Since season 3
No one ever denied the existence of SBMM/EOMM and its strong influence. The idiots are those who assume that those algorithms are applied to universal game mechanics (skill-based hit reg and other stupid ideas that are ridiculously prevalent) that have never been proven despite the absolute ocean of data to try to do so that's publicly available. This paper doesn't reinforce the narrative of players any less than it reinforces the narrative of the development studios.
Lag compensation
because skill-based hit reg appeared and disappeared in MW2, AFTER it had been found, spotted and Massively discussed. proved with riot shields. you act like the devs have Any incentive NOT to push greed or tell the truth to its players. definition of a bot ^
What‘s the story with all this plate-buying?
The way to do the new nuke
@@TheTacticalBrit I'm not sure I like the new nuke. I get the idea they were attempting to go with, but it feels like the timer is just way too long, and with the inherently chaotic nature of Rebirth, it's probably harder to get than in Battle Royale.
Thoughts?
i dont want fast matchmaking. i want good matchmaking.
Me personally I think sbmm is just trash, I play for hours and hours everyday and yet I honestly don’t remember the last “bot” lobby I had, every single game I’m with ttv’s yt and kick streamers and then just the wager kids and I honestly don’t know why my kd is only 1.12 so nothing amazing however I am a decent player I imagine my kd would be a hell of a lot higher if it wasn’t for these stupid lobbies. I have even tested my own theory and actually joined people from my game to find out what there kd is and almost everyone I have joined with has been anywhere from 2 to 4 kd how the hell is this even possible and I’m not joking about this being every single game
8:49 wtf is going on here? lol
Have them turn off match making for a day and see what happens. I bet It'd be shocking how different the game would be.
And you're telling me they dont rig some of these gunfights, cmon man
I don't think they have the ability to get servers to run optimally, let alone rig them
@@TheTacticalBrit They're doing a very, lets say "in depth" job with the matchmaking. I think they have the ability. A lot of my gunfights don't make any sense in this game
@@TheTacticalBrit but they have the ability to create EOMM patents You know about with a 95% chance of being in this game
@@TheTacticalBrit that is so much unrealistic benefit of the doubt i woulda thought u were a shill had i not seen ur s3 video
I love how im lvl 150 but playing against mfs that r 600lvl now how does that make sanse??
20 ping ?? 20 ?? My game start with 60 ping and goes to 250+ ping.
good video, but you not picking up that self revive on the roof made me go bonkers, literally stared at it and didn't pick it up. or the gas mask at the end. Made no sense.
They can explain what they want. The game’s NOT FUN AT ALL and is sweaty as fuck. So I’ve left like thousands of other players. Whatever the reason it’s impossible to enjoy these lobbies
EOMM
i am not willing to trust one bit unless they explain why they went from a game which everyone liked during first two years without sbmm to this horrendous turd they have laid with sbmm
See you are thinking..don't ! You assume everyone liked it because you have a very limited circle. Activision doesn't they have more data then anyone of us as to what players want and how they are interact with their products/services. Do not assume that your view on things is absolute.
@@KILLJOY375 "Do not assume that your view on things is absolute." and do not assume a company that has been Proven to be anti-consumer, is going to tell the truth or keep your best interests in mind. you're playing Devil's advocate and ignoring blatant truth. they have data they dont and Didnt even use in MW2
I call bullshit, Im near Chicago get a 20 -30ms ping but always playing against players from Europe or south America with way higher pings. I think it totally screws the game up. Also my kd is only a 1.12 but I play against and with way higher skill players. If I play solo it's not as bad but whenever I try to play with friends it's a horrible sweat fest.
My take away from this video is to enjoy call of duty more I have to play it less and quit cheat lobbies
EOMM IS THE DEATH OF COD
We’ve already accepted that sbmm is here to stay, but it needs to be turned WAY down. they need to accept that, but they won’t because they think they know how to play the numbers game against the consumer for profit.. they would make so much more money if their game was fun to play, Joe Shmoe who just got off work and plays for an hour every day, doesn’t care about your 15$ Nikki manaj skin. it’s the people who play every day for hours who will spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars, and streamers and RUclipsrs would have way more free advertising and more people would be buying and downloading the game..
What the hell are these bot replies
RUclips problem at the moment
@@TheTacticalBrit What even are they?
@@artarezaei8720 You click the profile to look at tits, and then you follow a shady link where they try to steal your info.
This paper which they released looks like doom & gloom for average players. Doesn't feel like they are going to change anything, they are just defending why things are as they are. For the love of sweat good they should get rid of EOMM and introduce proper SBMM like other games have.
It feels like ego at this point, everyone has friends who have quit the game and we can see viewership and player count(on steam) dropping and they just refuse to give PAYING CUSTOMERS what they want which is a FAIR experience because forcing and equal amount of wins and losses is NOT FAIR, UNETHICAL, FRAUD
Haha connection is king 😂. No chance. What ever they’re doing regarding match making doesn’t work. Me and my mates can play from 20:00 until 01:00-02:00 in the morning and literally get smoked every game in Warzone. I’ve got a 1.2KD and mates are 0.85, 0.81 and 0.70 and we’re fighting players who are back flipping through windows 360 sniping up in almost every game, at least we’re getting snipped whilst free falling from 200m etc. The match making is terrible for us and probably 4 out of 10 games has terrible lag. How do streamers get the insanely easy lobbies?
Connection is not king.
Populating a match based on skill is what they are saying.
I'm in the most populated area in the country (USA) and regularly connect to games with 85+ ping.
They are flatly lying and being misleading.
This game experience sucks now.
I will now back out of every game I don't like because I have no trust in the system.
I used to stay for every match regardless of performance until vanguard, knowing the game is rigged.
It is.
I've experienced previous matchmaking, this match making, and playing with friends.
Whenever I play with friends I enjoy myself, when I solo, I get absolutely donkey effed.
It's obvious, not fun, and makes me eager for any real competitor.
I, as lifetime fan of the franchise, absolutely CANNOT WAIT to bail on this garbage.
All they did was *fabricate* "research papers"! Their matchmaking is solely based on an algorithm that rewards pay to win. Nothing more
Why else would every 3rd match end 100-50. If it were truly skill based, ALL games would be within 10-15 points, not 50. SBMM-Debunked
Connection based, yeah i dont thinks so!!!!! Once again, in any given lobby, there is 3-4 players on each team with 5-15 ping, 2-3 players with 15-40, and ALWAYS atleast 1 with triple digit latency!
Everything about Call of Duty is about revenue, You pay for a skin, they give you a couple rounds where "god mode" is enabled for you, and places you in mouthbreather lobbies, and the mouthbreathers see you go 50-5 with said paid for weapon, and are dumb enough to believe its the weapon that gives the advantage, so they are persuaded to buy that weapon thinking it is just that good. Then after those 3-4 matches, the algorithm punishes you, and suddenly you're in the rigged lobby, struggling to go positive, meanwhile someone else in the lobby who just got suckered into purchasing a bundle is being rewarded by the pay to win algorithm and is completely dominating. It's ridiculous that Activision thinks we are stupid enough to eat up the horse shit they spew.
Sbmm has ruined call of duty the more you play and the better you become the less you want to play because the game ends you doing you over
Activision can spoon feed you pretty much any sbmm nonsense to fill there narratives. Let’s all eat it up shall we lol 😋
15 min video about why SBMM is bad when actually for the majority of casual players it’s great. As an older limited skill casual player I’d never win in random lobbies because there’d nearly always be 1 or more sweaty teams in it. You and your streamer friends have all done the champions quest even with SBMM so it can’t be that bad. The rest of us less skilled should only be matched with similar levels or the majority will have a shitty time which doesn’t help anyone in the long run.
The argument against SBMM if you take all the emotion out of it is that you want easier lobbies…. Not a good reason to change it for everyone else
With SBMM, you don't even know if you're good. You might actually be playing top 20% lobbies... The reason to change it is to remove the artificial feel of the game.
That has been their ( high skill players) argument the whole time in that they want easier lobbies. With regards to streamers they have an engagement and retention goal as well. The better they do the more they return and expand their viewership. So it is to their advantage to have less competitive matches because that means they do better and their viewers stay longer.
The problem with this machination of streamer is that are they truly as good as they appear them to be? He used the equivalent of boss telling an employee that there are multiple factors to a result. Well his response to not having skill base matchmaking is just as perplexion. You are essentially telling your boss that work is too hard for you and you want an easier job but with the same pay or more.
Very few of video gamer streamers have the type of entertainment quality that can stand on it's on. There are some but no alot of them are around. As such their results on the game play is what keeps most of their viewers tuning in. I cannot say that I find the tactical britt commentary during gameplay that engaging. I am not being mean either it is what it is. It is his game play that has me checking in to see.
Now you take another member of his team Stone Mountain 64. I find him very entertaining outside of his game play. The YOLO skits are hilarious and very entertaining. This is what I meant about entertainment content being limited on this space.
There's one or more sweaty teams in ANY lobby.
I'll say this...there should be a protected bracket for true casuals. This makes sense. You shouldn't get shit on by YY-ing sweatlords if you only play the game an hour or two a week or are very new. But if you are a slightly above average player like me, hovering around 1.5 KD, your lobbies are INSANE all the time. That doesn't seem fair. It's players like me who represent those watching content, playing the game season after season, and spending $$. Yet for these people the experience is the worst. Because we are not good enough to beat 3+ kd players most of the time, but still have to contend with them. If you play the game an hour a week, why should you get the better experience? You aren't that important to the game's ecosystem. And the best players can beat 99% of everyone else, so they can be competitive in every lobby. It's a tough balance to strike, but it really seems that Activision only cares to cater to absolute casuals, and this actual hurts the long term success of the game, because shit players have no incentive to get better. The extreme aim-assist, the hitboxes that don't reward accuracy, etc.
Do not agree in the slightest. As an example i have a 1.14KD and day in day out I meet players in my lobbies who are wildly above my skill level. Constantly come up against players with Nuke skins, iridescent skins, Top 250 emblems, WSOW qualifier calling cards etc. If SBMM was doing its job like you say then why on earth would i be placed against players with KDs so much higher than mine constantly? My experience is that SBMM places me against almost always players in a higher skill range than me
This a bot lobby?
In other words they’re putting too much into it