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  • Artist and illustrator Isabella Cotier shows us around her London studio and talks us through the free downloadable artworks she has created for House & Garden.
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  • @DreamingCatStudio
    @DreamingCatStudio 4 года назад +1008

    As an artist I like to remember the phrase “Create to express, not impress.” Of course we want others to enjoy our art, but not everyone will and I never want to lose the delicious happiness of creating.

    • @theawantikamishra
      @theawantikamishra 4 года назад

      :)

    • @bajabog
      @bajabog 4 года назад +8

      In that way is better to treat art as a hobby

    • @rosemarie8934
      @rosemarie8934 4 года назад +1

      DreamingCatStudio just yesterday i watched a video about Picasso being filmed while drawing... you can imagine the comments mostly of them not even knowing that phrase

    • @iviltri
      @iviltri 4 года назад +2

      Impressionism has left the chat(???)

    • @cliffdariff74
      @cliffdariff74 3 года назад

      Juan Perez trump has a great many things to say, very plainly, and easy to understand unless you are complete idiot. You just don’t like his basic reinforcement of American ideas such as freedom, law and order, national borders, and the right to reach your highest potential without government interference or from political Marxists and other identity Democrat twits.

  • @freaksnlosers
    @freaksnlosers 4 года назад +1785

    what im confused about is people saying this girl has no technical skill....when its obvious that she has mastered life drawing, a commitment to line (which is a lot harder than it looks), color theory, etc. and has developed a consistent and marketable aesthetic. as a painting major who tends to paint and draw realistically, realism isnt the only art style, guys. i really feel like people's perception of art is so plagued by "oh this person is able to make a perfect copy of this thing that exists in life. that means it's creative and good." and to be fair, hyperrealistic art can be artistic and meaningful, but a lot of the times, realism can be a debilitating crutch that doesn't allow you to actually create meaningful and creative concepts behind your work. so im really just begging yall, please expand your artistic horizons beyond fkn bob ross (love him tho

    • @dionesiaortega
      @dionesiaortega 4 года назад +8

      lanie true!!

    • @by_alexrbr
      @by_alexrbr 4 года назад +26

      Thank you for saying this.

    • @tohling1963
      @tohling1963 4 года назад +25

      so true! there are so many artists out there who have styles that are less conventional, but actually have very strong foundation in realism! for example, marc quinn, his sculptures are very unique (composition and medium wise), and his earlier paintings are incredible.

    • @alperozgunyesil
      @alperozgunyesil 4 года назад +5

      I don’t want to say anything on this

    • @miaa1762
      @miaa1762 4 года назад +6

      Exactly. I feel like the people saying that are just stuck on anime or pure realism 😐

  • @ErelfBow
    @ErelfBow 4 года назад +150

    She looks to have a peace of mind being engaged in something which is soothing for her.

    • @barborakovarova167
      @barborakovarova167 3 года назад +1

      @Carmen well i dont think so, maybe she is capable to take care of herself , have you seen her colab with gucci - she must have got a lot of money from that

  • @lener6093
    @lener6093 4 года назад +212

    Lovely to see her sketches and illustrations hung up on the wall. I'd much rather see those glimpses into expressive and spontaneous illustrations than one hyperrealistic oil painting that might as well be a printed out photo. Appreciating one style of art doen't mean it is the only valid one. Artists are not only "good " after they master hyperrealistic oil painting or whatever people assume to be the height of artistic abilities. A lot of times the biggest Part of an Artwork is the intention behind it. i'd encourage everyone who judges her artwork to spend a few weeks filling up sketchbooks and exploring work like this and see what you learn about it . just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's bad . ;)

  • @catalina3664
    @catalina3664 3 года назад +17

    I love this, I love the simplicity and the freedom. Sometimes it gets kind of... claustrophobic, in a way, to try to paint and draw in a realistic way or following all the anatomy rules. It's nice to go back to our early days of childhood when drawing was exciting, free and not stressing. Sometimes I find myself stressed over the perfect line and I stop enjoying the making process. This is beautiful.

  • @shikhaojha7382
    @shikhaojha7382 4 года назад +157

    I feel totally jealous and sad at the same time.. I love her innocent work.. and I don't know what stops me to paint everyday when I love it so much.. why don't I paint everyday.. why do I judge my own work and feel disappointed after creating something

    • @Manvir.
      @Manvir. 4 года назад +8

      because supplies are pricy. if it was all for free or if we were rich, wouldn't you think we'd draw freely? without feeling like you have to create something wonderful, otherwise its a waste?

    • @outorii4659
      @outorii4659 3 года назад +4

      Same!!! I overthink my context and think I don’t have the skill level so I don’t even try!

    • @cliffdariff74
      @cliffdariff74 3 года назад +21

      Simple... you are merely blocking yourself. Just start doing something, and don’t stop, just move on to the next, the next, the next etc, just stop stopping yourself. No more dreaming, just keep doing.

    • @marianacaffaro
      @marianacaffaro 3 года назад +3

      @@Manvir. Naaah, It's about self judgement and low self-esteem

    • @shre9
      @shre9 3 года назад

      Can feel you

  • @scoobit
    @scoobit 4 года назад +83

    Wow I love her art. It’s really beautiful and I love she captures humans

  • @Sinnamonie
    @Sinnamonie 4 года назад +501

    ppl dont know the difference between technical art and skill and other art movements. Not everything has to be lifelike to be considered good art.

    • @phunkface
      @phunkface 4 года назад +35

      Life like art is boring. If people want photo realism why not just take a photo. Plebs think skill = realism. Which is simply not true.

    • @carashellac406
      @carashellac406 4 года назад +11

      True. But, still, her art is poor, because she has no talent

    • @judemarino8914
      @judemarino8914 4 года назад +3

      J W while I agree with you, this is not skill. Ofc skill does not mean realism but this art just isn’t that great in general if I’m being honest with you bro. Also photographs don’t capture authentic light, even the best of cameras can’t that’s why life like painting is still even relevant, but I agree life like painting and drawing is boring

    • @hansmemling7605
      @hansmemling7605 4 года назад

      @@phunkface plebs ?

    • @dirtkongor
      @dirtkongor 4 года назад +2

      @@judemarino8914 what is not great for you is for others.

  • @cyand
    @cyand 3 года назад +6

    She clearly explains the reasons behind her art style, her fascination withe the sketches sculptors, painters, etc. make before moving onto to the final piece. Her style is really beautiful and captures that feeling of the initial idea and commits to that line in a really confident and intriguing way.

  • @jannav9401
    @jannav9401 4 года назад +74

    o how i love those people who don't care about art at all say: ''i could do that'', or ''my little sister makes better art''. Well maybe you can do that, or maybe your little sister does make ''better'' art. That doesn't matter at all, it's something that she loves to make, and is beautiful to her, and a lot of others. Some artists have immaculate technical skill and still choose to do simple line works and colors because it brings them joy. Art isn't just hyper realism, to be quite frank, a lot of people that are in the art world, respect abstract art way more then hyper realism. It shows you bring your own mind and put your own soul and heart in these works. Hyper realism is so impressive but basically just copying a photo. Don't waste your breath on that argument about how your little sister can do that. It doesn't impress the artist at all.

    • @ec8927
      @ec8927 3 года назад +2

      They say that but that can’t and they won’t “do that”. They’re just being negative.

  • @houseki4085
    @houseki4085 4 года назад +7

    I love the colours and the movement in her artwork. I am very fond of bright splashes of colour and not much muted tones so these are lovely. The line drawing of the lady she saw in the street was full of character and immediately made me wonder about who she is and her life. I love that she has taken the old school and turned into modern whimsical art. Art is about appreciating the beauty in all things, even if it doesn't seem to follow the rules of realism and art. It follows its own rules and lives in a world of its own.

  • @Strawbeyz
    @Strawbeyz 4 года назад +18

    I like her style of drawing with simple line. That could add into dress and design works 👗😍

  • @lilysoselisawessels5870
    @lilysoselisawessels5870 3 года назад +1

    Her wonderful illustrations give me a smile on my face! Through her talent she makes (a lot of ) people happy!

  • @AG-uf4cl
    @AG-uf4cl 4 года назад +6

    Love her loose and expressive lines. Something to aspire to.

  • @peterhawdon8972
    @peterhawdon8972 4 года назад +6

    Love her work, so colorful and cheerful , how good would having her work on the walls of your house!

  • @hollynoscar3534
    @hollynoscar3534 Год назад +1

    i would love to browse through her sketchbooks... love how they're all lined up and dated on the shelves... dreamy little studio

  • @Sweedaart
    @Sweedaart 4 года назад +9

    I feel the energy of your art work and it’s inspiring. Love the power of color!

  • @Tobazhniazhi
    @Tobazhniazhi 2 года назад +1

    It's supremely edifying to see an artist that is not cocksure about they're being an artist, but rather a confidence in the vision, the discovery of new things. So many artists unfortunately have their reputation as part of the cult of personality rather than in the lost tradition of art as a window into the imagination and not a mirror reflecting one's ego.

  • @summerroseart1638
    @summerroseart1638 3 года назад +4

    Your artworks have so much character to them , they're amazing.

  • @hyung-ranchoi8477
    @hyung-ranchoi8477 4 года назад +2

    What a perfect harmony, Florence & London!! Inspirational!!

  • @LisaIsabelle
    @LisaIsabelle 4 года назад +59

    Seeing this woman making what I would qualify as naïve art (but art nonetheless) and being so confident about it really inspires me to pursue my own path. It's been decades that I want to draw, paint and even sculpt but I always thought I wasn't "good" and "talented" enough, when in fact the key seems to simply be finding your own style. Thank you for the lesson, Isabella.

    • @occosaijelsem
      @occosaijelsem 4 года назад +1

      do it

    • @antonioaguirre3989
      @antonioaguirre3989 4 года назад +1

      do it and let me know please so I can see your art, I'm sure it's going to be interesting

  • @alvarezacosta8570
    @alvarezacosta8570 Год назад +1

    I like the way she capture the feeling and atmosphère and with no complicated brushstrokes the color and composition.the talent is always présent in her work.voilà l’artistique

  • @sofiastockton1241
    @sofiastockton1241 3 года назад

    Her art makes me smile so much

  • @whattovisitinromania5044
    @whattovisitinromania5044 4 года назад +12

    Beautiful art, freedom in frame! 🎨😍👏

  • @moodymumble2775
    @moodymumble2775 3 года назад +2

    insane & inspiring, I love her turtleneck and this made me feel lots better in regard to my personal sketchbooks

  • @shirale4125
    @shirale4125 3 года назад

    She inspires me so much! Her art is beautiful.

  • @lakshmimuralidharan8294
    @lakshmimuralidharan8294 3 года назад +1

    Beautiful art! Many blessings and gifts to you!

  • @clark9020
    @clark9020 4 года назад +3

    I love her style 💖

  • @lisaoloughlin6476
    @lisaoloughlin6476 2 года назад

    Isabella, your work is so spontaneous and gorgeous, thank you for sharing!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @gabriellas
    @gabriellas 4 года назад +20

    wow i love her art 😍

  • @stevesartstudio
    @stevesartstudio 3 года назад

    Wow, love the simplicity of her work!

  • @mixeduppaint3816
    @mixeduppaint3816 4 года назад +1

    Amazing drawings and art. Love your sketchbooks 💚👏

  • @remy9051
    @remy9051 4 года назад +2

    LOVE her art 😍😍😍

  • @ws5515
    @ws5515 3 года назад

    iincredible, her work and process is super inspiring

  • @TheEliteApple
    @TheEliteApple 4 года назад +699

    What's with all the bitterness in the comments. There's more to art than hyper-realism.

    • @e-cuauhtemoc
      @e-cuauhtemoc 4 года назад +5

      No, but realism requires a LOT more skill and talent. She's a one trick pony. Pass!

    • @alfredovitenteiii3612
      @alfredovitenteiii3612 4 года назад +18

      E. Lin She gets paid for making the art she wants to make, which is the goal of most artists. You can draw the most realistic drawing on earth, but that doesn’t mean someone is going pay you a lot of money for it.

    • @sebastianrogowski1366
      @sebastianrogowski1366 4 года назад +25

      @@e-cuauhtemoc "It took me 4 years to paint like a Rapheal but a lifetime to paint like a child" P. Picasso. People who leave comments like yours don't know anything about art.

    • @BielichDai
      @BielichDai 3 года назад +1

      @sillysighben mushroomz lmfao who do you think you are to say what's art and what isn't. Pure ego, and I bet you can't back it up.. Shitty artists have nothing but opinions

    • @MaximilianvonPinneberg
      @MaximilianvonPinneberg 3 года назад +3

      Perhaps because she’s obviously very privileged.

  • @Eggsistential_crisis
    @Eggsistential_crisis 3 года назад

    My favorite thing about her art is the more i look at it the more i like it

  • @whatbooks7908
    @whatbooks7908 4 года назад +1

    Love her style!

  • @tahirahkamil2498
    @tahirahkamil2498 4 года назад

    I just adore your pieces.

  • @sammizzzle
    @sammizzzle 3 года назад

    that artstyle is so refreshing to look at...

  • @kimisparkles09
    @kimisparkles09 4 года назад +1

    She's so amazing! 😍💖

  • @MegaSoleila
    @MegaSoleila 4 года назад +1

    Love the art!

  • @e.a.wtzipporah1192
    @e.a.wtzipporah1192 4 года назад +3

    She is very talented artist amazing artwork Isabella is a inspiration to me for my artwork

  • @Syrawasim
    @Syrawasim 3 года назад

    love your bold colors and style, and very energetic studio practice

  • @sofia-po6vp
    @sofia-po6vp 3 года назад

    i'm in love with her drawings

  • @scoobit
    @scoobit 4 года назад +56

    Loving the art discourse in this comment section lmao. But hey, i think her work is beautiful. She obviously has a strong understanding of the fundamentals underneath all of the lovely expression in her art!

    • @carashellac406
      @carashellac406 4 года назад +6

      No, thats the problem, she doesnt

    • @scoobit
      @scoobit 4 года назад +8

      Oedipus At Colonus yes I really think she actually does. Look at her drawings of people. Some of them are more abstract, yes, but others show clear attention to proportion and reality, a fundamental skill. She can draw faces from different angles while keeping them accurate, something that no one without knowledge of the fundamentals can do consistently. She also talks about her use of color and the video shows color schemes that she has arranged. Looking at her works you can see how the colors work together and are pleasing to the eyeballs :) don’t fret, you don’t personally have to like her art, that’s fine. BUT she isn’t as unskilled as many people in this comment section are saying.

    • @bernardtapie1092
      @bernardtapie1092 3 года назад

      @@scoobit she doesn't , she draw like a kid without any accuracy

    • @moonbeeps
      @moonbeeps 3 года назад

      @@bernardtapie1092 that's the goddamn point, genius.

    • @Junkmailcrusades
      @Junkmailcrusades Год назад

      @@carashellac406 Post your portfolio, I'd love to pick apart your work

  • @rayedd74
    @rayedd74 4 года назад +1

    stunning work

  • @myartprocess6003
    @myartprocess6003 3 года назад

    Very inspiring! Thank you!

  • @cliffdariff74
    @cliffdariff74 3 года назад

    Energy... so important, thanks, the ink sketches are great

  • @louisee21
    @louisee21 3 года назад

    Thank you for this great content, thank you Isabella for opening your studio and sharing your experience.
    I really enjoy your approach to tracing lines, not to describe but to render a feeling, a movement, a moment. Also your work about the way colors interact with each other has inspired me a lot ! Studying the way artists play with colors, warm and cold, near or far from another has opened a new door for me !

  • @deborahjackson4295
    @deborahjackson4295 4 года назад

    Love it!!

  • @PiaAmorin
    @PiaAmorin 4 года назад +1

    Fantastic!

  • @strictlyyoutube6881
    @strictlyyoutube6881 3 года назад

    Her art is fantastic

  • @TCee93
    @TCee93 4 года назад +153

    Not sure why people are being so harsh. She actually has skill behind the illustrative style shes decided for herself. Her images are simple but they aren't as "naive" as people seem to think they are. Its clear that she has made stylistic choices. Not that she just makes messes and hopes for the best. The work in the video is pretty consistent and the characters are solid. It actually shows that she has figure and head drawing knowledge.
    Shes an illustrator. Not a realist painter. I mean, you dont judge designs in a magazine or book by comparing it to an old masters painting.

    • @TheNotMaria
      @TheNotMaria 4 года назад +2

      Her style kinda remaind me to Egon Schiele

    • @berachtdorian6191
      @berachtdorian6191 3 года назад +2

      People are harsh because her work is expressive and free. It reminds them of how trapped they are.

  • @MoMindSetCrypto
    @MoMindSetCrypto 4 года назад

    Brilliant artist-- creatively and poetically inspiring.

  • @hoshisbones8375
    @hoshisbones8375 3 года назад +5

    Bruh how can she talk sm abt her art.. 😭 if I was in an interview like this and they’d ask me questions abt my art I’d just b like IDK I JUST DRAW 😿😿

    • @BielichDai
      @BielichDai 3 года назад

      maybe you should spend more time thinking about and understanding what you're doing as opposed to just doing

  • @hawthornetree646
    @hawthornetree646 2 года назад

    Love her interest in people!

  • @andrewmass1414
    @andrewmass1414 4 года назад +1

    inspiring loved it

  • @Artdeepmind
    @Artdeepmind 3 года назад

    She enjoys what she does and that is most important, she is comfortable with it and not everyone wants to spend days on rendering, she just draws, I love it.
    Its certainly as me when I have a days when I just want to put marks on a paper, its liberating.

  • @SnagKing25
    @SnagKing25 2 месяца назад

    Her style is dope

  • @caioMurta
    @caioMurta 4 года назад

    Muito legal o trabalho dela. Adorei

  • @dublagemtal5013
    @dublagemtal5013 3 года назад

    Fantástico!!!
    Parabéns

  • @Victoria_Novak
    @Victoria_Novak 3 года назад

    Amazing style!

  • @marciamoseleyyoga4953
    @marciamoseleyyoga4953 Год назад

    Love her style

  • @rebgreen9418
    @rebgreen9418 4 года назад +1

    Great Channel House & Garden! ✨ 🙋🏻‍♀️🥰👌🏻

  • @fotoautomatmusic
    @fotoautomatmusic 4 года назад

    Really cool work, great colour and line work.

  • @user-xs3og8us3d
    @user-xs3og8us3d 4 года назад +3

    We have this mag in brazil too: we call it casa&jardim!

  • @smellofpaints9219
    @smellofpaints9219 4 года назад

    She is lovely ♥️

  • @charmlessness
    @charmlessness 4 года назад +1

    I am so in love with her

  • @jessegarza9977
    @jessegarza9977 4 года назад +27

    Here drawings are really expressive of having well connected parents.

  • @CriticasDeCineEn2Minutos
    @CriticasDeCineEn2Minutos 3 года назад

    My new favorite channel ! :)

  • @fatoomgierdien2181
    @fatoomgierdien2181 3 года назад

    Thank You for your video.
    Much appreciated and Interesting!!!

  • @shreklopez662
    @shreklopez662 4 года назад +230

    Lol, I bet the people that are making fun of her think that warhol and matisse are GeEniusS. Double standards smh

    • @witchbitchgirl
      @witchbitchgirl 4 года назад +9

      Exactly! I bet that if they were alive back then they'd hate their art and call it pretentious. People just loveee to hate

    • @carashellac406
      @carashellac406 4 года назад +5

      Warhol and Matisse were both groundbreaking artists. She is not. They also had excellent draughtsmanship. She does not. Your comment is idiotic and ill informed.

    • @judemarino8914
      @judemarino8914 4 года назад +3

      Maria I don’t think he’s particularly bitter I just think he’s stating a genuine point, the art that those 2 created were innovative because nobody had ever drawn art like that, she on the other hand is not innovative and is instead copying those styles which don’t get me wrong is not bad, and I like her a art a little but she’s not a genius

    • @stuartwray6175
      @stuartwray6175 4 года назад +4

      @@judemarino8914 she's an illustrator.

    • @deneuveamy
      @deneuveamy 4 года назад +1

      She is Trash

  • @user-sd8bq5on7r
    @user-sd8bq5on7r 4 года назад

    Love your videos

  • @alexgomesdesantanasantana7858
    @alexgomesdesantanasantana7858 3 года назад

    Qualquer pintura sua é uma obra.de.arte!

  • @sofiam7930
    @sofiam7930 3 года назад

    I LOVE THIS

  • @Es_Tay
    @Es_Tay 3 года назад +2

    Art isn't about whether it's "good" or not. It doesn't have to complex techniques or in-depth understanding of colour theory or any kind of background study involved.
    It's really much more about appreciation and personal taste. There will always be art you love and art you don't.
    What is art really? It's whatever people want it to be. Just because something is simple, it doesn't make it any less beautiful.
    As long as the artist is happy with their work, nothing else matters really.

  • @witchbitchgirl
    @witchbitchgirl 4 года назад +5

    I really want to know what qualifications the critics in the comment section have to allow themselves to shit confidently on this girls' drawing style. She has an amazing understanding of color schemes and form, and it's apparant that she studied art academicly but eventually came up with the style she feels most comfortable in. And even if she didn't study art professionaly, what's wrong with that? What's wrong with people doing what they love and getting credit for it? Art is supposed to be fun and allow expressive freedom, not a gated community only for the artist that you consider "real artists". Get over yourselves, let people live.

    • @carashellac406
      @carashellac406 4 года назад

      I've been an artist fulltime for 30 years. Have exhibited at many of the worlds top galleries museums and festivals including Art Basel, documenta, and the Venice biennale. You are completely wrong. This girl seems nice but she doesn't have talent.

  • @mais126
    @mais126 4 года назад +1

    i want her to make coffee mug with her art on it and publish smol art books by theme😍so cute!!!!!

  • @joanesunzu3087
    @joanesunzu3087 3 года назад +2

    I mean, the technical skill and expression are on point, so neither I nor anyone else should blast her for that. But it's also okay not to like her art. I think she brings out the child inside of her by creating these strokes with only expression in mind. I forget, but a great artist once said we musn't lose this child we all have inside in the expectations of society... Anyways, like it or not, she does excellent works of art.

  • @TheLibraryOfEmotions
    @TheLibraryOfEmotions 4 года назад +7

    The old lady she draw with a dog was really fun. (◕ˇ ◕✿) Greeting from Toronto

  • @sugiartostudio455
    @sugiartostudio455 2 года назад

    another level of art... big love from indonesia ☕️👍

  • @gabrielgauvain1185
    @gabrielgauvain1185 3 года назад

    Great Work.

  • @user-xs3og8us3d
    @user-xs3og8us3d 4 года назад

    So neat... but natural!

  • @rudyrodriguez6458
    @rudyrodriguez6458 3 года назад

    Surrealist genre painter. It gives a very comfy feeling.

  • @ritikabhattacharyya2985
    @ritikabhattacharyya2985 4 года назад +2

    Lovely

  • @oleole3608
    @oleole3608 3 года назад

    Very nice, actually. You're awesome Isa,

  • @cogiletaf3489
    @cogiletaf3489 4 года назад +1

    Wow 😮😯

  • @user-wx6jk3gz7f
    @user-wx6jk3gz7f 4 года назад +20

    Oh God, her art is so fragile, full of tenderness.

  • @michelmoutinho
    @michelmoutinho 3 года назад

    Has she painted those black and white illustrations using acrylic? I love how simple the brush strokes come out!!!

  • @janetcorey5102
    @janetcorey5102 2 года назад

    I like her easy free style

  • @samarindo
    @samarindo 2 года назад

    la amoooooooooo

  • @veim22222
    @veim22222 3 года назад

    Amazing

  • @oellsn
    @oellsn 4 года назад +1

    A Positiv Experience. Like.😃

  • @PeppermintCupcakes
    @PeppermintCupcakes 3 года назад +1

    I love her art so much 😍 the use of color and her drawing style are just very inspirational

  • @loiusguccigucci6410
    @loiusguccigucci6410 3 года назад

    I love her

  • @carlosuman3634
    @carlosuman3634 3 года назад

    So classy. 🔥

  • @sasja4746
    @sasja4746 4 года назад +3

    I think it's weird how so many people are negative in the comments. I just came across this video and i already knew her from her instagram and i've always really liked her drawings. It's the simplicity and quickness that stands out, with just a couple lines and colors she makes a really strong impression of her daily life and daily situations. Even tho it's not realism (wich I'm personally not really a fan of) you know exactly wat she drew.

  • @miranda8598
    @miranda8598 4 года назад

    Wow! :)

  • @ekoyesart6107
    @ekoyesart6107 4 года назад

    Wooww very nice

  • @thefertilemind
    @thefertilemind 4 года назад

    I don't know who she is but I love her.