GM unleashes LT1 Hell on the Pony Car scene in 1993
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- There was a huge buzz back in 1993 with the new 5.7 liter 6-speed LT1 Camaro Z28 hitting the streets... not only were they smoking 5.0 Mustangs on the street, they were dominating the tracks as well. The LT1 powered F-Body took America by storm upon arrival, the Fox-Body platformed 5.0 Mustang as well as Ford's top dog '93 offerings, the beloved SVT Cobra, could not reel in the Camaro Z28. 1994 and 1995 were disappointing for the Mustang GT as well as SVT Cobra. Not until the following year, 1996, would Ford finally produce a Mustang to handle the LT1 Camaro Z28. The new 305hp SVT Cobra... but GM had another ace in the sleeve with the newly optioned SS models from SLP, also producing factory 305hp, and again keeping the "best performing '90s V8 Ponycar" title.
My 1996 Z28 is still running strong. I don't care who likes it or not. I love this car. Simple low tech.
plenty of off the line grunt, fantastic handling, fairly good mileage, all that for $3k what the hell is not to like.
mine has 225K miles on it, 1996 LT1. i dont need to be surrounded in electric wiz bang bullshit LCD displays everywhere. its a car not a video game.
andrew donohue Is it an manual or automatic?
automatic 96 LT1
andrew donohue Nice. I have a manual 96 LT1.
yeah the 90's was a great time anyone could afford to buy a fast car now its rediculous you have to be a surgeon to buy one!
I agree ..
base 6th gen camaro is faster than these and you can get one for 22k...
okcguy 427 get a used c5
Well nothing's free buddy!!
@@GOBRADON502 not asking for it to be free and I didn't say anything about it being free.
Damn, I loved my 94 Z28. To this day it is the only car I have owned that I regret selling.
My 94 z28 is modded with the old lt1 and still a looker I get compliments all the time. 10 years owned
I have some videos on the channel of my old ‘94 LT1 Camaro. Those Gen II LT1 engines were strong in their day. They broke many 5.0 and 4.6 Mustang hearts in the ‘90s lol
@@nedaCFilms I definitely remember lol
@nedaCFilms I will check the videos out!
My grandad owns one of these. Its been parked up for years and i remember it sitting there all my life, im 18. it is So amazing to find out its this car after searching it up. I heard he got something special under the hood too
When these came out in late 1992, I was in love. Like they took the 3rd gen cars and smoothed out all the corners, added 30hp, and FINALLY dropped in a manual for the 5.7L. Not just any manual, but the 6-speed!! OMG...they went outside the box and hit a homerun! Broke acceleration, braking and handling records for the Camaro. Absolute benchmark!! Thank you Chevrolet!! :) Late...'95...the SS returned--oh geez--what a car!
Oh...fyi I have a 1997 Camaro SS LT4, #007. 4th gen is my favorite thus far even though I have a 5th and 6th gen too. lol
It was exciting times indeed for F-body people. The 5.0 Mustangs had a reputation of taking out 3rd Gens simply because GM offered soooooo many engine/cam/gear options with the 3rd Gens from the 245hp 5.7 automatic models and 230hp 5.0 manual 5spd and G92 models on down to the 200hp lower performance models to the lackluster 170hp L03 and LG4 weak versions which were the majority... and they had multiple injection options from TBI to TPI and had many many different cam profiles through those years.... whereas the Foxbody Mustangs had the same 5.0 engine across the board in GT or LX and auto or 5-speed and the same .444 cam, and the majority were 5-speeds. The lightweight notchback coupe models were capable of running low 14 second quarter mile times, stock and bumping the timing, lowering tire pressure could get them flirting with 13.9 times. Only a few 3rd Gen models were capable of that. The rare 1LE and B4C models and G92 equipped Tuned Port cars. The LT1 came out and really shook things up and stole the title back from Ford. It was a huge deal to have a Camaro making just shy of 300hp and a 6-speed tranny from the factory!!!
Btw, you have one amazing and rare LT4 model!!! One of my dream cars would actually be an LT4 equipped SS or a mid '90s LT1 powered 1LE model with the factory KONI reds!!! Lol.
"Mah mullet gets a stiffy everytime ah hit the gas!"
i love my z28 best damn car money can buy its a bitch to work on tho
Had a 95 Trans Am with the LT1; loved it! Then I had an 01 SS with the LS1; loved it more! Now I've got a 14 GT 5.0; unreal!!!! All great cars.....
How about now?
“700 miles in a week”?
I drove my 1995 Z28 2,400 miles in just over 30 hours when Covid first hit (lot of stops for gas, stretching, food) I was going 160mph at times 😆
Can't have mine! Yes I agree, I miss everything about the 90s. I was born in the 80s, and had my very best memories in the 90s. Then the 21st century took a dump on America.
God it seems like it was just yesterday. The year was 1999 and I had just got my '94 6-speed Z28. Boy those were the days. :(
Chin up little soldier! I know what'll make you feel better... Take a GM smallblock for a ride:)
Jamien Black EVERYTHING was better in 1999
Doomzdayxx 1999 was a good year for me too, lol.
why dont you still have it?
andrew donohue That particular car blew a head gasket. I ended up owning 6 LT1 and 3 LS1-powered cars since and currently own a 2013 Corvette 427 Convertible.
I’ve owned 2 ‘97 Z/28s and am about to pick up another ‘96 Z/28. Gotta love them.
Lt1 guy here... I've owned both lt1 camaros and LS1 and stock the LS1's are definitely faster by around a half second or so. But that's no surprise since they have more horsepower. I went 13.8 in my 96 z28 with cold air and cat back exhaust and drag radials. 13.5 in my 02 z28 with the same mods except dr's. I now currently have a beautifully kept red 95 z28 m6 that is my weekend cruiser.
My cousin had a 95 z28 new & i had a 88 lx 5.0 the stock lt1 impreased me alot i remember back then it felt like a 5.0 with bolt ons.
In 93 the Camaro Z/28 was faster than the Cobra Mustang. I remember drag races with both of those cars. Great times
They were pretty close actually. HotRod magazine managed a 13.4 out of a stock '93 Cobra with a set of slicks. Very impressive for 1993. The LT1 was a superior engine though. Once you open up the restrictive exhaust and intake tract (cold air) on an LT1 the full potential is exposed and they will put down their advertised crank hp to the wheels which was damn impressive for that era. The #3rdGen & #4thGen #Fbody Camaro/Firebird was just a superior road racing platform/chassis compared to the Mustang. The handling & braking was a generation ahead of the Mustang. Better overall suspension geometry and braking components. I love them equally though. Asking me to choose between the Camaro/Firebird and Mustang/Capri is like having me choose which one of my kids I love more lol.
I didnt know Rick Roll was a Trans Am Champion
3 years later, here you are lol
I'm trying not to be bias because my favorite car is the foxbody Mustang but I would love to have an LT1 Camaro. Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords published an article several years back that started, and I quote, "LT1 and LS1 owners have become boastful braggarts, and rightfully so. These engines are monsters from the factory and adding a head and cam package can easily push them over the 500 hp mark". It was a good and truthful article
This car was what got me into cars in the first place even now I still grin like a kid when I see this car flying past me and I can see the Chevrolet emblem with Z28 next to it
Will always be a great car imo. I drove my base V6 car for 8 years and it's never let me down. Recently it's been having some lifter noise but i'll get to that sometime. I've had a lot of cars over the years but I'll always love f-bodies. Recently had a 2010 Cobalt SS car and it was fun but never felt as good driving around as my f bods did. I like sitting in a sled I guess hehe.
but back then a LT1 camaro z28 was out of my price range (my AMX cost me $550 to buy 12 years ago when i was 17), but 4 years ago i did buy a 93 Z28 for $1500 and i still have it.
This is one of the best looking Camaros gm ever built including the 2010's; 2010's+ just look like crap in my opinion.
gob loit that's got to be the weirdest opinion I've ever seen lmao. 95% of the people I talk to about cars think the zeta platform camaros are the ugliest looking generation.
I agree with you. It looks exotic but with a reliable v8
Bmarra....well your wrong
Exactly... almost 300hp and a 6-speed transmission for $3000 is a hell of a "bang for your buck", lol. You can't beat it.
Here comes the mullet man
THIS ACTING IS AMAZING!
Yardie Noh 😂🤣
How does chevrolets lt1 camaro view its competition...through its rear view mirror lol. They sure arent the fastest nowadays but they sound and drive like no other.
Mustang sounds way better.
The fastest Gm 6 speed car world record is held by the gen 2 lt1.
Yeah, those numbers are right in line... back in 2001, Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords magazine tested a 2001 Camaro Z28 against the new 2001 Mustang Bullitt, and they ran a 12.9 with the LS1 Camaro... they were blown away, lol. The LT1 cars are usually about a full second slower. The LT1 powered F-body average 1/4 times were between 13.8 and 14.2, with the newer 96-97 models outperfoming the earlier 93-95 models.
The LT1 got quicker by 1997. Was up to 285hp and the SS was up to 310hp.
An LT1 SS was a hair quicker than a 1998 LS1 Z28 and the 1998 SS with the LS1 was only 10 more hp than the 1997 LT1 SS… only 2 tenths quicker
The LS1s were mid 13s cars per all the tests at the time… not crazy faster than the LTs
12.9 must have had some bolt ons and a tune…. The 6th Gen with 455hp were only running 12.1 stock. I don’t think the LS1s stock were that close to the 6th Gen SS
I just sold my 94 camaro.. :( it was only a v6 but it looked identical to the red one in this commercial. Bought it when I was 16 for $2500 and just sold it now at 27 for 2,250... already want to buy it back from the guy :( Maybe I'll find a nice lt1 somewhere :/
As a Mustang Guy the F body Camaro beats them all
Miss these good old days
Alex K. Me too buddy
My car still lives in this time. 95 LT1 26,000 miles on her. Underneath is like the day she came off the floor.
grimey 5.56 mine just turned 19k. Love my fbody!
How many miles you have now? 😉
Also, Ford didn't produce a Cobra in 2002 because they were busy replacing throttle bodies onThe '01 Cobra. It happens to every company at one poin or another. But the extra time SVT had to develop the '03 Cobra paid off. That car is badass and one of the best looking cars, in my opinion, to ever be released to the public.
Wow that had some great shots! Would've loved to have seen this video back then. I still clearly remember when these cars came out. It's funny because back then the general public learned that the Z28 had the Corvette LT1 yet since 1987 the IROC-Z and Z28 also could also have the Corvette (L98) engine, just wasn't officially called L98 in the Camaro and lacked aluminum heads. The 93-97 LT1 Z28/Formula/Trans Am made such a memorable impression on people that they continued calling the LS1 in the '98-02 cars LT1. Back when I used to go to car shows, most people would look at my 02 Firehawk and ask "does that have the LT1?" hahaha
The LT1 F-Bodies absolutely performed better than the previous generation TPI engines... just as the LS1 absolutely performs better than the previous LT1 engines... but to say, "LT1's look better" is complete opinion and personal taste.
Ahhh, finally the Camaro, where it belongs as opposed to what many say about it.
If I could only find a place to let lose with my own SS like that.....sigh.
It's so hard to find a stock F-Body Camaro/Firebird on a road course here on YT.
Props !
Check out my channel bro, I have a crap load of 3rd Gen and 4th Gen F-bodies ripping up the road course and circuit!!!
Here is some LT1 Camaro footage that I shot last summer from Camaro-Mustang Challenge LT1 Camaro (300hp @ the wheels stock) Camaro-Mustang Challenge
nedaCFilms / Mustang-Town I will check it out when home, I'm very interested, from my SS I recon this car will handle & grip like a beast, I just need better buckets as the stock ones are not made for corners, but a highway :)
wow chevy's "real people" commercial goes way back
"All the horsepower a man can stand." LOL
LMAO!!!
I was hoping to see some good LT1 footage on your channel, but can't find anything on there...
im rebuilding a 96z28 as of now i should probably do like a little mini series of videos showing it at the beginning to the finished product
all the 1993 camaros in this video are currently on used car deeler lots goin for $ 3K with 180,000 miles and bad head gaskets, and faded paint
Plenty of these running around with 200,000 miles with original head gaskets man, lol.
Wow, nice find.
I bought mine for 1800 with 10 owners, 220k miles, and the worst paint. Never once have I had an issue.
Autumnleaf2011 That is what it's all about buddy, lol... it's therapy!!! All week long I look forward to those Sunday morning cruises..... my neighbors probably hate me.
I have a 95 camaro with 113 xxx miles off a dealer with no faded paint nd red stripes down the middle..only thing you were right about is the price lol got mine for 4 stacks..6 speed Lt1 smashin o3 mustang gt's
@NedacFilms That's nice info to have. I thought it was just the throttle body they had to replace. I never thought I would learning anything from a social network forum. Anyway, keep uploading awesome vids and filling the forum with unbiased info. It's greatly appreciated
Thinking of getting one of these; found one in nice shape for $4k. I've only owned German and Japanese cars my whole life; I know the performance parts for these cars are much cheaper, but is it a pain in the dick to wrench on like the imports?
the 90's were great where is time going
A car made before it's time
Man Sharp looked young there. Haha!! Didn't realize it was him till they put the name at bottom of screen.
@diplomatic4 You can't put generation IV heads (LS1) on a generation III motor (LT1) if that's what you were referring... if you were referring something else then disregard.
You got that right... it isn't even comparable stock for stock. LT1 cars run high 13s to low 14s stock, and LS1 cars run consistent low 13s, and sometimes crack 12 seconds, STOCK... but don't waste your time, you can't tell a guy talking gibberish with LT1 in his RUclips name, lol.
i love my 1995 z28 convertible i like the body style better than the new ones. my buddy bought a new camaro 6 banger and sitting next to my car it looks gigantic, its way taller and looks like a suv lol the 6 banger dose run though i raced him from a roll and bearley beat him think it has 300 factory horses i have about 6K in mine after all the upgrades he has what?? 30 grand......do the math
@NedacFilms Dude, Cookie Monster has been with us since 1966. I was born in 82 so I remember quite a bit from the 80's and honestly, I miss that era. I still have my Ferrari and Lamborghini Diablo posters and a PogoBall among many other toys. The 80's were bad ass but my teen years were in the 90's so I'm partial to that era also. Anyway, love the videos and the web sites. It's nice to find someone who doesn't rip on Mustangs or Camaros because they happen to like one more than the other
It was a terrific car when it came out and it brought excitement back to Detroit finally after two decades of mediocrity from US automakers. The Mustang by comparison was still very mild in comparison.
my 96 six speed did give them things hell. I still have a 4th gen that gives them new ones hell but it doesn't get driven much anymore
you must have meant 03 instead of 93
Absolutely the LT1 has it's place... man, they were a huge deal back in the mid-'90s. They absolutely stole the title from the Mustang for "best bang for the buck". A base model LT1 Z28 with the 6-speed killed the Mustang GT as well as take out the prestigious 1993 SVT Cobra model. The LT1 ruled in "their" day.
Great car in its day. Had a 94 z28. Slow by todays cars.
my bud has a 2002 z28 convertible, he only had 3.73 gears, slp intake lid, ful exhaust and a tune and got a 12.8 in the 1/4 mile. my other bud with just about the same mods on a lt1 car only got 13.4. ls1 just makes more power with less money.
I’d give anything to be in that era right now
Variables like weather, humidity, etc, effects performance day to day on the same track. I have never seen a bone stock LT1 crack 12 second 1/4 miles, and I have seen LS1 cars do it over and over again. I have an article on my website of Muscle Mustang and Fast Fords magazine testing an LS1 Camaro Z28 against their (new at the time) Bullitt Mustang, and they were shocked when the LS1 ran a 12.88 time, stock... and I don't think "bias" can be called on the Mustang guys that tested it, lol.
But back then no American car except the Viper and the Corvette could touch it
craig howard The 1993 SVT Cobra was a competitive (driver's race really) both the LT1 Camaro/Firebird and SVT Cobra models could run high 13's and one of the publications back then threw a set of slicks on the '93 Cobra and ran 13.4 which was a damn good time for 1993. The GT40 Cobra had loads of potential they were opened up to their full potential, just as the LT1, but the LT1 actually had more potential when you opened up the intake and exhaust. The LT1 heads flowed better than GT40 heads. The GT40 flowed 140cc vs the LT1 170cc, and weight wasn't as big a deal as many people think, the Camaro only weighed around 100lbs. more than the Cobra.
CalypsoNotch408 Oh yes, gotta love the 4V DOHC and LS1, these motors really raised the bar. You have a Calypso Coupe? I have a Calypso LX Coupe project that I'm messing with. BTW, how many Calypso Notchbacks were produced anyway?
+nedaCFilms / Mustang-Town The 93 Cobra had a crap cam, meant more for low end than top. With a better cam grind, the GT40 302 has much more potential bone stock. Also why does it say the 94-95 Cobras were disappointing? What about the 95 Cobra R? Those could easily smoke an LT1, even the 96 SS. Those were about as fast as an LS1 Camaro too, that 351 had tons of torque.
snakesonaplane2 The 1995 Cobra R were amazing! Absolutely amazing cars, and actually in my top 3 dream cars list, lol, but when was the last time you saw a '95 Cobra R pull up beside an LT1 F-body at a stoplight, lol. You had to have SCCA/IMSA license to purchase one and prices were outrageous. They were purpose built for showroom stock road racing.
nedaCFilms / Mustang-Town But it's not difficult to build a 351 or a 302-based stroker putting out 300hp, actually 300hp at the wheels is easy nowadays.
good stuff nedacfilms....you always post good stuff
@redd7188 Thanks for the support man...
love my 97 t/a lt1
I'm talking "advertised crank hp"... 275hp for the early models, and 285hp for the lateer models... hence the "almost". Actually the 1993-95 models dyno'd 230-240hp at the wheels and the 1996-97 dyno'd more. I have real world, rear wheel dyno figures of a '93 model in one of my videos on here.
man i miss my lt1 z28. i got to get another one asap.
Love my 98 WS6 Trans Am!
I didnt see a Cobra anywhere in this commercial....or hell.
You cant put mustang in the title just cause it's in the description.
Yeah, my Teachers always sent notes home to my parents saying I was a clown...lol, sounds like you have a pretty sweet and nasty LT1. I think that dollar for dollar the LT1 is the best bang for the buck, but I know for a fact that in "stock" form (which is what I thought we were talking about) they fall just a little short to the LS1 in performance and hp-output. Those LS1 engines are just freaks man.
the lt1 still has its place, they make fun street cars as they make all their torque really low unlike the ls series engines. but sure i guess the ls1 pretty much was better in every other way.
Love my 96 Z28... mustang Eater!
Mike Pinder lol
The new Mustangs '18 and up are very fast, even my bolt on LS3 Corvette struggles with them.
I went to an event at Charlotte Motor Speedway around this time, they were introducing the new Camaro. They gave out all kinds of free stuff, they feed you, and let you compare the Z28 to a 4 cylinder Mystang you could drive th both and compare the power difference. I never understood why they used the 4 cylinder Mustang instead of a LX 5.0 trunk car. The Z still would have beat it!
@JDYDesigns Liebeck v. McDonalds Restaurants was tried in 1994 and the incident occurred 1992.
@IDontHateOnCars Ford never produced a 2002 Cobra, they skipped a year and focused on the 2003 Terminator... (they actually skipped 2000 as well, and produced a very limited number of Cobra R models)
I have every timeslip of every run I have made since 1983. And the tracks measure ETs in hundreths of a second, not tenths. And my 60 foot times are constantly around 1.96 to 1.99 in that particular car. I'm glad to have schooled someone who obviously knows next to nothing about trap speeds and ETs.
my friend just got a 95 z28 but we doing a 98-2002 front end .
its more like 260 to 280 to the wheel and mybe almost 300 lbs of torque, the ls1 put down around 300 to 315 some more actually
With LT4 intake and LT4 heads and a hot cam you can make an LT1 run just as fast as an LS...Plus i heard LT performance parts are alot cheaper, don't know if that's true or not but thats what I heard.
@matt09oh you are so right, the Gen lV is the LS2 motor I believe... oops, lol.
I remember those days. We were like OMFG holy shit bad ass....then we had one a few years and learned all about Opti-Spark lol. I havent had many issues myself (cross fingers) but it's not the most reliable part on the motor lol
i remember when it was that cheap, i was in HS. i drove a car that got 8mpg and no one cared. i spend $30 per week on gas (a little over 2 tanks/week). i made around $600 a month and had money to blow on whatever i wanted (usualy my choice of junkyard cars i'd beat up and send back to the JY in a month or 2 just to buy anther). up until 6 months ago (downsized) i made that in a week and never had that kinda money left over to spend. my how things have changed. at least i still have my AMX.
I was really giving you the benefit of doubt due to you being an LT1 owner and fellow gear-head... but now I'm convinced that you are just nuts man, lol...
1:03 he says "i love this car" its a v6 lol
Look at them Gator Backs!
i havent ran mine yet, but they both have there ups and downs but u can get the lt1 for like 3 grand now adays.
The brakes suck on these fbody's so i spent the money on a C5 corvette brake swap. Then it was fun to drive.
steve v lol i have a c5 and i think my brakes suck lmao ahahaha im looking to upgrade.
The current administration's secret service is another embarrassment to America. Cookie Monster was from the '70s... the '80s had Gi-Joe and Transformers... and Pee-Wee Herman, lol... I actually did enjoy late '90s (97-99) but not at all the early and mid '90s. One of my personal favorite "modern era" rock bands came out of the late '90s, FUEL, what a great band...LOL!!! It is just our age is all... we grew up in different times, and have different memories.
@IDontHateOnCars actually I should say that Ford didn't produce any 02 Cobras in the U.S.A, but I think they produced around 100 or so for the Australian market... (Australians are kick-ass gear-heads like us yanks...LOL!!! gotta love 'em)) I believe Ford produced 300, R model Cobras in 2000. I researched much of this years ago for my websites (Mustang-Town*com and StreetShowDriftDrags*com but have forgotten quite a bit of it...LOL!!!)
I'm all tore up about that too.
I have a 97 base model with T tops and 5 speed manual that is screaming for V8 power…. Someday.
They didn't make the '02 Cobra because the '99 model was a complete disappointment and Ford had a "performance recall" on the 99 Cobra (hence the terms "pre-fixed and fixed 99 Cobras") because not only did they get smoked by the LS!, they also couldn't beat the previous generation LT1 cars. For 2001 Ford changed the exhaust, intake and computer tunes (also reports of combustion enhancements) and produced 40hp more than the "pre-fixed 99 Cobras... the 01 Cobra was no joke, and 03 even better!
I wonder why the so called fast camaro was discontinued?
It was to create a larger 12 car gap between the corvette and the mustang
my 95 vert is stock! with 150K miles I have rebuilt the whole car mainly body and suspension tires and wheels its all the little shit that cost so much,,,, everything but the drivetrain! cept a new clutch pressure plate and flywheel if I had 6K in a motor yeah it would outrun everything in town and it would look like shit ill get to the drive train soon enuff getting new top and seat covers first gonna drive this car till the motor go's then replace it
@JustinConcussion nowadays sure, but back when these cars hit the street, 5.0 guys started to get nervous. At first they were passive thinking it'd not be a big deal, but bolt on 5.0 guys were being slaughtered and suddenly the LT1 was making noise on the street. Then the ls1 came out and lt1 guys despised it lol. First time I seen an LS1 was a brand new 99 z28 while I was with my buddy in his bolt on 92 GT 5.0. he raced him and our jaws dropped at the bus links this stock camaro put on us.
These are so pretty
LOL...kid I have been building and racing LT1s and LS1's for years now. I know what they are capable of and I know what they do. I have had stock LT1s outrun stock LS1s in the quarter mile. I owned a stock LT1 speed density TA WS9 that was stock down to the paper filter with 2.73s and a 700 r4 auto that turned a 13.55 quarter mile. I owned a stock 99 SS LS1 that would only turn a 13.82 at the same track. I have owned around 40+ of them, from LE3 LT1s to blown LS1s with all work done myself.
I was a teenager in the 80s also and to me the 80' and 50's were the best decades. But, an IROC Z is no comparison to an LT1 or LT4 F body. 93-97 LT1's look better, handle better, get better fuel economy and runs circles around an IROC. I owned a stock '93 TA that turned a 13.55 straight off the showroom floor. Just saying.
My have we come a long way.
Why... is the "Mustang Title Police" going to arrest me?
Which Cobra were they unleashing hell on? Why is it that Chevrolet felt so accomplished by using a larger displacement motor to "dominate"? a 5.0 lol
not even one trans am in the video... SMH at you gm.
mines suprisingly pretty torque but yes i will agree with u on that
An awesome ad.